Thread 214024086

Leftists are realizing they're so faggy and obnoxious they made everyone a Nazi.

>Fascism
I fucking WISH

>>214024086 (OP)
Whats this guy's problem anyway? He's so mad no one cares about him interviewing
people like Obama that he is just going out seething?

>>214024086 (OP)
"Annoyed" meaning that they threw innocent people into prison and encouraged violence and even murder of White people?
And something tells me this kike has no problem whatsoever with Trump's "fascism" when it benefits Jews and Israel, which is the only shit Trump does to begin with.

THE PROBLEM WAS THE LEFT STARTED CALLING PERFECTLY VALID INNOCENT MORAL BEHAVIORS RACIST.

> Being scared of & demonizing Islamic terrorist factually is not racist.

> Being sacred of & demonizing cartel death squads & human traffikers factually is not racist.

> Being scared of & demonizing immigrants (especially illegals) from objectively crime/terrorist ridden/war torn nations factually is not racist.

> Being scared of & demonizing gang bangers and ghetto gangsta death cult culture is no more fucking racist than demonizing KKK sundown town culture.

> Demonizing psychotic far left soft on crime extremism like Chesa Boudin or the policies that released Willie Horton factually are not racist. The Willie Horton ad was factually not racist.

That is far fucking beyond "annoyance".

Imagine being so intellectually bankrupt you change your entire worldview because some people are annoying.

>>214024086 (OP)
These drama queens are fucking insane.

>>214024086 (OP)
Still mad about the joke huh?

>>214024199
see
>>214024194

>>214024210
>say something retarded
>even the usual sort think youre a retard for saying it that way
>erm it was a joke you guize plz ignore that my special was promoted heavily with this being a serious point and me being super smart
ok, hon

>>214024194
Your first 2 points seemed reasonable but as always you went full retard with your 3rd bullet point:
Wouldn't it make more sense to take in immigrants fleeing crime ridden countries and war torn continents who are trying to live a better life?

>>214024086 (OP)
>fascism

>>214024194
This, calling everything that wasn't ultra Puritan wokism "Nazis" is what caused this. When the most minor of ideas is conflate with actual Nazi ideology, people just tend to not care about your positions. How did they not learn from this when they were the ones who used the fatigue from the McCarthyism of old to get their ideals pushed through?

>>214024294
You need to go back

THE HYPOCRISY WAS FAR BEYOND FUCKING ANNOYANCE. IT WAS UNBEARABLY REPREHENSIBLE.

SEE PIC RELATED.
CONSERVATIVES GET THEIR ONCE A DECADE CHANCE TO HAVE A TAME AF 80/20 CONSERVATIVE MESSAGE IN ENTERTAINMENT AND NOW THE WRITER IS BEGGING FOR HIS LIFE AND JOB.

MEANWHILE...

>>214024294
Take them in for what? Refugees need to be fleeing something like a natural disaster or a bombing, not just having no will to govern their own country.
We bring them in for "a better life" and they are just straining the system further by being part of the bottom quintile.

>>214024294
>crime ridden countries and war torn continents
It's not the dirt that makes these places like that.

>>214024097
>ignoring court orders
>declaring federal control of the police force
>sending in the military to cities you don't like while ignoring the ones in red states with even higher violent crime rates
>firing all the top brass in the military and installing sycophants
>trying to take control of the Federal Reserve
>deporting legal residents for writing op-eds you don't like
>sending people with no criminal records to concentration camps in the 3rd world countries
>feel the need to constantly remind everyone that you're not a dictator but many people are saying they want a dictator but you're totally not one but maybe it would be a good thing if you are

If you don't think this is fascism, you're a very dumb person.

>>214024086 (OP)
maron is mentally ill, he lashes out at everything and everyone one. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>214024199
>Imagine being so intellectually bankrupt you change your entire worldview because some people are annoying.
The popular vote AND the electoral vote?

>>214024356
>MEANWHILE...
WE HAVE BLM TORTURE PORN COMICS (THAT SAY THE MASS GENOCIDE OF THE AMERICAN LEGAL SYSTEM IS JUSTIFIED) THAT GET ZERO PUSHBACK.

>>214024318
Mussolini was not an idealist, he just went with whatever

The actual ideological father of fascism was a coke addict who tried his best to get himself killed

>>214024294
>Wouldn't it make more sense to take in immigrants fleeing crime ridden countries and war torn continents who are trying to live a better life?
Not without forced assimilation because they bring the evil culture and ideologies that destroyed their nations with them.

>>214024294
https://www.migration.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/First-Safe-Country-Principle-in-Law-and-Practice.-Issue-Brief-7.pdf
It's called the First Safe Country Principle.
If you are fleeing from war in Syria and the first safe country you land in is Greece, apply for asylum in Greece. Don't shop around to try and get asylum in Germany or Sweden.

>>214024417
>trying to take control of the Federal Reserve
Oy vey, are goyim really?

>>214024356
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>>214024417
Why do you think calling it fascism will make me like it any less??

>>214024356
>>214024431
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>>214024086 (OP)
>have to request permission from every judge in the country just to deport a few actual violent immigrants
This is the most limp-dicked "fascism" I've ever seen.

america was a mistake

>>214024086 (OP)
You're not a nazi, you tub of shit. You're a dejected retard who can't talk to girls.

>>214024086 (OP)
>the average american is fascist because they aren't acting like castrated europeons

>>214024501
I don't. I just think you cretins need to start calling it what it is instead of hiding behind sarcasm whenever your critics call a spade a spade.

>>214024552
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>>214024431

>>214024417
that isn't fascism
>>214024585
dilate

>>214024559
Trump did literally try to get Pence to overturn a legitimate election through a legal loophole.

This was the point Trump became unlectable for anyone even remotely sane.

>>214024614
Yes, we know, it's only fascism if you don't support the people in charge

>>214024417
These only sound like bad things if you're a trannie leftist. You lost, your revolution lost

>>214024194
Facts but lets be fair the right only does this so they can be racist more often and openly. They don't choose between thugs and normal people. They don't believe normal people are real. This is why they prevented people from coming to the US to go to college. Not to protect anyone but just because they hate to see minorities doing something with their lives. Like these people are against /legal/ immigrants. That's all you need to know about them. They ally themselves with the deceiver. We're done here.

>>214024627
You're insane if you think 2020 wasn't even remotely fishy. Of course it's the most secure selection when the left wins right

>>214024633
Who's "we," schizo? Are you having one of your episodes?

>>214024441
Fire of Life is pretty good though.

>>214024627
>literally try
The hallmark of fascism. Btw- fascism just means big meanie poo doing baddy bad things.

>>214024086 (OP)
ugly ass stache on his chin

>>214024656
You're a demented fatass starved for attention, shut the fuck up more often.

The Democrats started losing when they pandered to woke degenerate freaks and leftists. They tried to force normal people to reject basic biology, it all started with the pronoun crowd

>>214024696
>Who's "we," schizo?
People who aren't immune to reason

>>214024739
You have to go back

>>214024686
Oh fuck off.
Trump immediately started screaming fraud the moment the count turned against him with not a shred of evidence.

>>214024780
Drumf is definitely never getting elected again.

>>214024716
overthrowing democracy with legal loopholes is a fascist hallmark

And being bad at it doesn't make Trump any better.

>>214024086 (OP)
I'm so tired of "everyone I don't like is a fascist" bullshit. Do these people even know what it means?

>>214024178
It's 100% about the border. Democrats seek to "end Whiteness and create a post-White society" with immigration.

>>214024768
What part of this yokel dystopia seems reasonable to you?

>>214024666
>They don't choose between thugs and normal people. They don't believe normal people are real. This is why they prevented people from coming to the US to go to college. Not to protect anyone but just because they hate to see minorities doing something with their lives.
THEN WHY THE FUCK DID TRUMP SET UP OPPERTUNITIY ZONES?

WHY DID HE SIGN PRISON REFORM?

WHY DID HE SIGN THE MUSIC MODERNIZATION ACT WHICH DISPROPORTIONATELY HELPS BLACK MUSICIANS?

WHY DID HE SIGN THE SAVANNAH ACT TO HELP MISSING AND RAPED NATIVE AMERICAN WOMEN?

WHY DID BUSH 2 SAVE 25 MILLION MOSTLY BLACK AFRICANS FROM AIDS MOTHER FUCKER?

FUCK OFF.

>>214024086 (OP)
>comedy special?

>>214024812
As opposed to the "hand the keys to the kikes" policies you love fellating so much? Get help. garbage.

>>214024780
>Trump immediately started screaming fraud the moment the count turned against him
Motherfucker was crying fraud any time he was down in the polls lol

>>214024840
>THEN WHY THE FUCK DID TRUMP SET UP OPPERTUNITIY ZONES?
>
>WHY DID HE SIGN PRISON REFORM?
>
>WHY DID HE SIGN THE MUSIC MODERNIZATION ACT WHICH DISPROPORTIONATELY HELPS BLACK MUSICIANS?
>
>WHY DID HE SIGN THE SAVANNAH ACT TO HELP MISSING AND RAPED NATIVE AMERICAN WOMEN?
>
>WHY DID BUSH 2 SAVE 25 MILLION MOSTLY BLACK AFRICANS FROM AIDS MOTHER FUCKER?
>
>FUCK OFF.

The right despises all that stuff now.

>>214024780
Trump has cried fraud literally anytime he lost or thought he might lose. He cried fraud when he fucking won in 2016 and appointed an entire commission to try and prove he actually won the popular vote.

THE MASS RAPE OF OUR CULTURE AND ENTERTAINMENT IS NOT A MERE ANNOYANCE MOTHER FUCKER.

EVERY SINGLE WHITE MALE CHARACTER UNDER LUCASFILM HAS BEEN WASTED, EMASCULATED, DEMONIZED, DEGRADED, TARNISHED OR HUMUILATED IN SOMEWAY.

> Indiana Jones - Happy ending to Crystal Skull ruined, son dead, getting divorced, lost job, is at the lowest saddest moments of his life and has to spend his final film being lectured, mocked and shit talked to by a sociopathic traitorous bitch of a God daughter to the point that 5 minutes before the credits he ask to be left to die because he has nothing left to live for.

> Han Solo - Fails as husband and father. Own son kills him after destroying the Republic he built killing billions.

> Luke Skywalker - Fails as a Jedi teacher, his nephew destroys everything he built. Turns into a depressed sarcastic nihilistic hobo jackass POS.

> Obi-Wan Kenobi - Treated as a indecisive passive bumbling bitch dragged around by a sassy little girl. Half his series is dedicated to a non-acting sith bitch given attention for no other reason than they wanted a major black character in the series.

> Boba Fett - Not half as badass in his own series as he was in Mandalorian, gets thrown around in his underwear covered in slime. Asian sidekick does all his heavy lifting (she is a decent character despite this)

> The Mandalorian - 3rd season becomes the Bo-Katan show and he becomes artificially incompetent to prop her up (AND I LOVE KATEE SACKHOFF, I have zero problem with her being a guest character but if they must hyperfocus on her then just give her her own series like was planned for Cara Dune)

> Kylo Ren - Gets robbed of being the final main villain of the new trilogy so they could pander to Tumblr-Shippers.

> Yoda - At the end of The Acolyte he is revealed to be aware of the Sith return and is complicit in covering it up for the next few hundred years until the prequels.

>>214024840
Bro I'm talking about the whole party and their supporters. Trump is a corpo stooge who pals around with pedophiles. His string are pulled by big money elites.

>>214024666
>666
Filing the country with millions of jeets, while legal, is still a bad thing, Satan

>>214024417
The only truly Fascist thing he's done is have the government buy a stake in Intel.
I saw that and made an investment in Castor Oil.

>>214024906
It's not just Lucasfilm.

> He-Man in the Revelations series is killed off twice to prop up a butch hyper unlikable version of Teela who litterally lectures his ghost that she was the one more effected by his death.

> Steve Rogers (comics) - Reality warped into being a Hydra Agent to prop up Sam Wilson as Cap. They even had the pure evil sadism to try and retcon it so that the Hydra version was always the original.

> Steve Rogers (mcu) - If the rumors are true he is going to be responsible for trillions upon trillions upon trillions of deaths in Doomsday.

> Thor (comics) - Is rendered unworthy of his hammer, has his arm cut off, looses his fuck buddy relationship with Sif, looses his budding courtship of Roz Solomon, is revealed to be a adulterer in the past all to prop up Jane Foster as Fem-Thor.

> Wolverine (comics) - Was dead for half a decade so X-23 could take his mantle (she is a genuinely good character so this stings less than other examples here but it still sucks Logan got sidelined for so long)

> Nick Fury (Mcu) - Completely neutered, demystified and reduced to being Captain Marvel's sidekick/cheerleader after 2018 and then randomly starts talking shit about mediocre white men in the Secret Invasion series.

>>214024294
I will only agree with this once we have our own reeducation camp for towel heads and other undesirables, China has one so where is ours?

Can someone explain to me why at least half of Trump's supporters are cool with
>genocide on behalf of Israel
>sucking Israel's dick
>lying for Israel
Do they not realize that this country is a bank account for Netanyahu to raid, debt-free?

Or do they like being slaves? I wonder.

>>214024417
lol not even close. Even le big bad orange man is at best a 1990s liberal. You guys are not ready for TRVE fascists like pic related.

>>214024929
WE ARE A FUCKING CAPITALIST COUNTRY. THERE IS NOTHING FUCKING WRONG WITH BIG MONEY ELITES YOU TANKIE FUCKING FILTH.

>>214024194
>(especially illegals)
bro's still pretending he respects this distinction

>>214024086 (OP)

Marc maron? Thought that was dunkachino

>arrest people for being outside during covid
>annoyed people

>>214024994
>WE ARE A FUCKING CAPITALIST COUNTRY. THERE IS NOTHING FUCKING WRONG WITH BIG MONEY ELITES YOU TANKIE FUCKING FILTH.
You'll keep yelling this as you're put in camps.

>>214024417
if obama did that, you'd say it was based

whats wrong with fascism anyway? evola was based

>>214024982
Killing a genocidal terrorist population of the most radcialzed extremist in human history is not itself genocide.

>>214024086 (OP)
STOP THE FLOOD OF SPAM
P.S.
you were already btfoed
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/213702500/#q213702592

>>214024839
You mean the dystopia in which reckless tariffs are causing inflation to rise again? The one where the president fires the labor statistics chief because he didn't like the fact that she accurately reported on the tanking jobs market? The one where child sex crimes are being covered up by the president because he was involved in them? The one where the national fucking guard is patrolling the streets of our cities in obvious preparation for yet another attempt at a coup? The one where Trump slobbers all over Jew cock while continuing to fund their systematic slaughter of Palestinians? The one where billionaires just received a giant tax cut while everyone else gets their crumbs?

Answer: nothing. Nothing is reasonable about it.

>>214024086 (OP)
>we annoyed everyone into what was considered normal for 1000s of years, which we call "fascism". We call communists "fascists" too btw. We're really just an amalgam of the worst parts of the right and the left and we act surprised when people rightfully hate us.

America has been a police state for a while now. Try driving around at night without breaking any laws, you'll get pulled by nosy cops and if you don't ID even if you don't have to, they'll probably put you in jail. For driving at night.

>>214025023
who was the president during covid?

what state was the pic taken? California or Florida?

>>214025030
Why the fuck would a rich person who employs us and who makes money from us buying his products put us in fucking camps?

>>214025070
better than our situation in the yookay

>>214025078
>who was the president during covid?
Brandon

>>214025085
They want you dead, ultimately. You take up space and waste resources.

>>214025019
Yes we do mother fucker.

>>214025070
>and if you don't ID even if you don't have to
You're free to drive around your private roads without ID.

>>214025049
>Killing a genocidal terrorist population of the most radcialzed extremist in human history is not itself genocide.
Oh, you othered the humans in that place so now we can kill them no problem. Got it. Yeah those evil, uh, doctors and priests and children. Super scary people.

83% of casualties in gaza are civilians btw

Let's be real democracy is a retarded concept because it implies true neutral. Neither side actually "believes" in Democracy and it's always been a race for which side chops the others head off. America will either be ruled by the left or right. This is all going to end with one side

Just depends to which side you're personally inclined to

>>214024985
>facism is when racism
that doesn't count either

>>214024097
>I fucking WISH
I love people like you because you think youd be in the upper echelon of any dystopian society when in reality youd be the bottom of the totem pole either as some grunt on the frontline or some servant cleaning Masters toilet lmao

>>214025120
>You're free to drive around your private roads without ID.
If you're pulled over for no crime, you don't have to ID. Are you trying to ague against that? Did you forget we pay for the public roads and the police officer's salary? You must not be American, you don't understand our systems.

>>214024086 (OP)
>It's someone else's fault.
There should be a never ever learn award. Good speed amerimutts. Nothing lasts forever so...

>>214025049
Post your nose

>>214024780
>"jams head up ass* Where's the evidence? I don't see any evidence, and no you can't look for evidence either because that too is fascism.

>>214024982
>leftists only care about the JQ when they can make Trump look bad to his supporters
>calls the JQ a far right conspiracy when it's convenient

>>214025136
>83% of casualties in gaza are civilians btw
This is per Israel's data too btw

>>214024086 (OP)
Imagine blaming anyone but yourself for going along with the egocentric demagogue populist even after it comes out that you've been worshipping a pedophile.
At least have some accountability

Chuds do nothing and still can't stop winning

>>214024086 (OP)
>>214024194

>>214025181
who are you talking to? I didn't say anything like that. seems like you have terminal left/right brain. my condolences.

>>214025055
More like the left getting BTFO

>>214025161
>If you're pulled over for no crime, you don't have to ID.
>You must not be American

you must not be, if an officer asks for your ID and you dont have it he doesnt say oh ok go about your way. he says sir i need you to step out of the vehicle. you obviously dont fucking live here or interact with the police like an average person does.

>>214024982
They push it to the back of their minds and pretend it isn't real.

>>214024985
>Even le big bad orange man is at best a 1990s liberal
Yeah we all remember those times when Bill Clinton ignored orders from the supreme court, deployed the national guard into cities he wanted to punish and arrested and deported citizens without due process.

>>214025244
>you must not be, if an officer asks for your ID and you dont have it he doesnt say oh ok go about your way.
Officers don't have the law on their side if they ask for ID without a lawful traffic stop. If you're driving around at night, breaking no laws, they can't pull you and ask for ID for no reason.

Stop acing arrogant when you're so ignorant.

>>214025189
What kills me is there was an unusually large number of children killed in this conflict. Like stupid bigger than even other lager conflicts. That was the shit that made other Jews flip on Israel. Like who the fuck is running this show? Are they literally targeting non-combatants running for their lives? Yes, yes they were. There are no good guys in that war just monsters grinding up innocent lives on both sides.

>>214025201
Are you fucking brain damaged?
Epstein was a world class manipulator and Trump is uniquely easy to manipulate. Them being friends isn't even remotely close to being evidence Trump is a pedo. This is like saying everyone who went to church with the BTK killer must have been in on the murders.

>>214025295
>according to hamas

>>214024985
Remember when Bill Clinton wanted armed guards on the streets?

>>214024906
>Boba Fett
>Mandalorian
>white

>>214025314
>everyone I don't like is hamas
Israel is hilarious. They created hamas btw

>>214025310
Oh okay well I guess if he's just an innocent social acquaintance we can see the files then

>>214025310
>It's not Dear Leader's fault
>There's no way he could have known his best friend of over a decade was running the biggest human trafficking ring in human history
Like I said, it's on you for being a blindly loyal retard

>>214024086 (OP)
Fascism has failed every single time it has ever been tried

>>214025310
If this is a parody post you knocked it out the park

>>214024381
Yes, US and Israel did. If muttgolems and their masters didn't kick up middle east every other year for last three decades there will be magnitudes less of refugees, terrorists and what have you. Threadly reminder that dunking on Saddam directly fucking created ISIS and Iraq still didn't recover even to the level of what it was under Saddam.

>>214025265
Waco was far crazier than anything Trump has ever done, but then again lefties celebrate it because white kids died there.

>>214024152
That's all he ever did. The character he plays in GLOW is just him being himself.

>>214024194
The left also became radically pro-bankers and pro-government in a way it never was before. They managed to effectively delete the anti-authoritarian left, and up until 2012 or 2016 it was a much more stable and consistent part of general anti-authoritarianism and anarchism when compared to the anti-authoritarian right. It went from thinking that a vote or a political party was a thing that could be used to preserve a space outside of the state control or oversight to thinking that the political party was as good as it could get and the vote had to be used to support them no matter what.

>>214025364
Pinochet died old and free

>>214025155
A lot of people would rather be the boot than live under it

>>214025374
believe it or not, explosive, head-choppy islamism didn't start when the US invaded iraq

>>214025272
>If you're driving around at night, breaking no laws, they can't pull you and ask for ID for no reason.

but they can and do for whatever reason they please. you're calling me ignorant but what you are saying will happen in this encounter ("go on your way citizen, i was mistaken!") does not happen to real people that live in america. they'll say your headlights are too dim or something and write you a bullshit ticket.

"the law's not on their side". just come on man. they enforce it.

>>214025310
>mysteriously dies in holding during Trump's first term
>promises to release the files..... what files? there's no files. did you mean the MLK Jr files? *throws pile of unrelated files in face and hobbles away*
yeah dude they totally just went to the same.... orgies, it's a coincidence, nothing to see here

>>214024194
this but also I am racist and hate minorities and dont want them here

>>214025310
>Trump fuels conspiracy theories about the files for years
>assumes office
>has 1000 FBI agents comb through the files to look for any dirt on him
>DOJ releases a statement shortly thereafter saying there's nothing to see in the files and to please move on and talk about something else
Lole

>b b but he was just FRIENDS with Epstein
>doesn't mean he's a pedo

I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing if Trump were a Democrat, bud.

>>214024627
How do you think people should be punished for trying to overthrow an election?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe0I46-Smu0
> On December 14, the "Unite For America" campaign released a video published on YouTube and other media addressed directly to Republican electors urging that each of them individually, plus 36 of their colleagues (at least 37 Republican electors in total), vote for a Republican other than Donald Trump for President, to safeguard the American nation, its people, and constitution.
> The video featured numerous public figures including Debra Messing, Martin Sheen and Bob Odenkirk, urging Republican electors to prevent a Trump Presidency, expressing several times the message:
> "I'm not asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton".
> In electing an alternative Republican, the featured speakers ask the elector to become an "American hero" by using the elector's constitutional "authority" to give "service and patriotism to the American people" through a vote of "conscience."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election#Public_outreach_to_electors
What consequences should the president from West Wing and the Better Call Saul guy face for trying to overthrow our democracy?

>>214025404
Islamic suicide bombing first became widespread in the 1982 Lebanon War against the US proxy Israel.

>>214025546
lebs have agency and are responsible for their own actions

>>214025402
i'd rather be crushed by the boot than told to lick your ugly boot

>>214024904
How did Hillary Clinton react to losing?
She was pushing a conspiracy theory that Russians rigged the election and hacked voting machines.

>>214024906
i still maintain that if disney+ had better shows/movies the world would be in a different place. i would say that it was the greatest cultural inside job in history if this didnt end with americans destroying their own people and empowering china, instead it just reeks of a short term pump and dump where america has an expiration date of like fifteen years from now

>>214025155
Our current society is way more dystopian than any alternative.

It reeks of vodka and anal AIDS around here.

>>214024086 (OP)
Really pushing and harping on the trans shit I get it. Allowing anyone under 18 to transition and do hormone therapy shouldn't be allowed.

>>214025380
Nobody is defending Clinton, just addressing the popular gaslight attempt that "TRUMP IS JUST LE 90S LIBERAL" thing that gets disingenuously repeatedly constantly

>>214024194
>the post that made leftists seethe uncontrollably because it was true

>>214025560
you don't have that much agency if a well-funded army invades your poor shithole

>>214025630
yeah you do

>>214024194
>Islamic terrorist
>cartel death squads & human traffikers
>gang bangers and ghetto gangsta death cult
except the fact the right immediately truncated all that to
>Islamic
>anyone brown crossing the southern border
>black kids

>Being scared of & demonizing immigrants (especially illegals) from objectively crime/terrorist ridden/war torn nations factually is not racist.
and this one just plainly is racist.... if they were whites escaping crime in their home countrys you'd just call it what it is, amnesty

>>214024982
Joe Biden sucked Ukraine's dick and lied about Ukrainian war crimes.
Yet you never called Joe Biden a Zelensky Shill or Ukrainian Puppet. You just call Trump a Jewish shill and Israeli Puppet
Why not compare the amount of money sent to Israel under Trump with all the money sent to Ukraine under Biden?

>>214025534
you are comparing breaking into a building with weapons to """urging""" electors to vote different. yeah i bet saul goodman's desperate urgings got ashley babbit shot in the fucking face! ahaha! retard!

>>214025642
>Joe Biden defending Ukraine bad
>Trump defending Ukraine good
No fucking consistency with you dispshits whatsoever

>>214025641
you lost your minds over a few white south africans being granted asylum

>>214025642
>Ukrainian war crimes.

>>214024086 (OP)
>all the fascisms were historically reactions to communism

They all had different views though. Had. Fascism isn't around anymore.

>>214025655
One of those things had a real chance at changing the outcome of an election, the other one had no chance whatsoever.

>>214024086 (OP)
the only thing worth watching from maron is when dafoe repeatedly snubs him in their podcast because he keeps trying to larp as an actor

>>214025642
brown

>>214025642
>Why not compare the amount of money sent to Israel under Trump with all the money sent to Ukraine under Biden?
why are you pretending to care about money when trump jacks up the budget every time hes elected? you obviously dont hold it to be a priority and your tone indicates that you're either a weasel or you dont actively realize that its not a priority for you.

>>214025655
is this intentionally such a bad argument to make people think the left are unhinged?

It's a mistake to call Trump a fascist because Trump has no ideology, he just does whatever best serves his personal narcissism or whatever he think his biggest fans will approve of.

>>214025630
Afghanis and Vietnamese seem to have figured it out.

>>214025722
Then you can't call Mussolini a fascist either.

>>214025641
>whites escaping crime in their home countrys
There are none to test your hypothesis, unfortunately for you lmao.
Meanwhile there are plenty of leftist shitholes people are trying to get away from, result of their policies.

>>214024086 (OP)
Isn't it weird that it's someone else's fault that you're pieces of shit and not your own? Isn't that what women do?

>>214025404
Sure it didn't, but it was propped up massively by US meddling into somewhat stable states that hold it at bay on their own and funding proxy war cells to one up USSR.

>>214025351
>biggest human trafficking ring in human history
Not a billion light years close.
Epsteins financial fuckery was a million times bigger than his traffking.

>>214025678
Do you think the Ukrainians didn't kill civilians?
Do you think Ukrainians didn't bomb any hospitals?

>>214025722
>Armed guards in the street and censoring news outlets isn't fascist cuz it doesn't help me like I was told it would

>>214025743
Both of them did suicide bombing too so I'm confused what your point is.

>>214024376
>not just having no will to govern their own country.

Buddy, you fucking overthrow their countries when they do that. And then install puppet dictators and fund death squads who then oppress such people.

>>214025686
>One of those things had a real chance at changing the outcome of an election
both your position and your ideals are so amorphous that you are inironically arguing that celebrity endorsements have value despite every democrat candidate in the past fifteen years have proven you wrong. is there anything you wont say?

you seriously think saul goodman could influence a politician more than threats of violence can?

>>214025338
Epstein may have faked evidence against Trump after they had their falling out.

There may be stuff incriminating to Trump unrelated to the human traffikkng.

It's clear from how Trump was taken back and shocked by his presence in the files that he wasn't expecting such.

man, i wish trump was half the fascist that the "left" think he is, so that they could see what a real fascist looks like. consider the following:
>cubans who fled a fascist regime to usa voted for trump
what the actual fuck do you think this implies, retards?

>>214024086 (OP)
He's not wrong.

>>214024431
I thought you were for free speech? What a fucking snowflake.

>>214025364
Every single leftist ideology does.

>>214025814
leftists unironically think that banning gender affirming care for transyouth is tyrannically fascist and oppresses freedom of expression. absolutely deranged.

>>214025404
>>214025755

>>214025832
>no U
This is why none of your little mantras work, tubby.

>>214025794
I mean Trump absolutely boned underage girls and was a huge creep who routinely peeped on teenage beauty pageants backstage and such, but I don't actually think he was a "pedo". I think he just doesn't want to deal with the fallout of whatever his social relationship with Epstein for 20 years or whatever was, there's probably some bad shit even if it's not incriminating.

>>214024686
Trump screams election fraud every election. And then shuts up if he wins but doubles down if he loses. He’s done it every election cycle. It’s all rigged until suddenly it isn’t. Mail in ballots are corrupt! Except when he personally votes that way. Popular vote is illegals voting! Unless he wins the popular vote. Etc. etc. etc.

>>214025751
>Isn't that what women do?
it is, thats why white peoples embrace of victim culture/persecution narratives is something that can only work in the short term. it can get called out as pussy shit and the only way to enforce that it isnt pussy shit is to silence/censor your opponents. men will take control of the narrative again even if it comes at the cost of white culture, and its going to be pretty funny

>>214025793
I think that when the whole political class is putting pressure on electors to change their vote that has a real chance of convincing enough of them to change the outcome of an election.

Did the insurrectionists have any chance at holding enough electors hostage for long enough to change their vote, and then have every institution in America agree to that outcome? How much of that plan did they actually accomplish? Did they flip one elector?

>>214025814
I am pro free spech for right winger and speech with consequences for leftists. Centrist solution, everybody gets what they wanted.

>>214025109
Ah yes, Biden was already president before the election in 2020 was even held.

>>214025850
>This is why none of your little mantras work
Trump sits in White House while you sit on /tv/.

>>214025722
It also gives him too much credit and mystique. He should not be in the same conversations as Hitler and Stalin he belongs next to mediocre presidents like Bush and the other Bush. Fucking Dems set him up like he was Thanos and everyone thought he was super cool.

>>214025877
>I think that when the whole political class is putting pressure on electors
You're massively exaggerating what actually happened here to attempt to make something else seem less bad by comparison. Get a fucking grip. Both things can be and were bad, storming the capital and stomping on cops' heads in a huge chimpout is obviously worse.

>>214025861
so let me get this right. trump fucked up the country so badly, millions of people died, that more people than ever before voted for biden as a bulwark against trump. then, in 2024, somehow trump gets even more votes than he did in 2020, and this democratic bulwark of voters against trump somehow all vanished and, ugh, trump wins. you expect me to believe this was all organic and foul play didn't occur in at least one of these elections?

>>214025861
Democrats have never done this. They certainly don't claim that preventing illegal immigrants is akin to Jim Crow laws or anything. Definitely NOT letting illegal immigrants vote. Gavin Newsome said so! No, you can't see the voter registrations, you fascist!!

>>214025641
White minorities are never ever the cause of the crime or terrorism in the countries they are fleeing. That is the difference.

>>214025878
>I’m a hypocrite

No way!

>>214025928
>someone lose but then they win 4 year later, how this possible???? must b fraud

>>214025901
>Trump sits in White House
Yeah cuz he can't stand anymore. He has to sit behind the desk to hide his condition. Hasn't gone golfing in 2 weeks

>>214025958
context is important. he lost because everyone hated him that much. yet those 6 million (heh) democrats seemed to disappear in 2024, while trump earned 3 million more votes than he had before. all on the premise of trump being the worst of all time.

>>214025945
>Durrrr illeguls are voting!!’

It’s amazing mouth breathers like you keep saying this when even your fucking president failed to prove that in 2017 despite having an entire investigation about it because his ego couldn’t handle losing the popular vote

The problem with Leftism is that it's inherently dysfunctional and destructive
The ultimate end-goal of Leftism is for everyone to be gay, neutered, sexually degenerate, obese, sick, etc.. Nobody can just be a normal, traditional family
No civilization can survive once Leftism gains enough influence and power, it always falls and Authoritarians come in to pick up the pieces

>>214025903
The Bushes never deployed armed guards in American streets or brazenly told republican governors to begin gerrymandering their states

>>214025877
>I think that when the whole political class is putting pressure on electors to change their vote that has a real chance of convincing enough of them to change the outcome of an election.
then you must be 18 years old or a total retard, because that's been the democrats strategy for the past 20 years of politics. it doesnt work. politicians are unafraid of breaking from popular celebrities because there are no consequences from them.

>Did the insurrectionists have any chance at holding enough electors hostage for long enough to change their vote, and then have every institution in America agree to that outcome?
if they and trump didnt get cold feet then they could have gotten a whole lot done. they were in there for a very short period of time with no real objectives and no real targets, it was basically a breaking and entering. but nobody in america is "agreeing" to having the nation guard roll in, its just happening because trump said so. if he wielded power on that day the way he has so far in his second term then yes i do believe that he could have kept the electors hostage long enough to change their votes, and that its a hell of a lot more possible to do that than have saul goodman make the senators hearts grow three sizes that day.

>>214025928
Democrats stayed home in 2024. It’s not rocket science.

>>214025958
>Republicans spend Biden's entire presidency making it almost impossible for illegals to vote
>~10 million votes literally vanish into thin air between one election cycle
>liberals just flat out pretend this didn't happen

>>214025984
The answer to your question is that the american electorate is largely really stupid and has a very short memory. The public perception in 2020 was that Trump was fucking up the covid response, and people were generally very fatigued after 4 years of his antics, and Biden seemed like a reasonable alternative. Fast forward 4 years later, inflation is out of control, gas and grocery prices are approaching record highs, there are 2 high profile wars overseas and the incumbent is basically a vegetable. People swung back, and a lot of people didn't vote at all. It's not complicated.

>>214025918
The main point is that this is a possible way to change an election. They also know well enough to back off if it looks like it would cost too much to make it work, that's what they did. They could have kept putting more pressure on it and it had a chance at working.

Insurrectionists didn't have any chance at all, and what they were doing couldn't even logically have worked to change the outcome of the election. The crimes involved there were breaking and entering and some counts of violence against police etc. They'd need to prove all kinds of extra involvement by all kinds of government and military and intelligence agents, and prove a direct connection between the insurrectionists and these other elements, to show they were involved in treason.

>>214026006
>If you don't lick Dear Leader's boot, it makes you a heretic guilty of all these things

>>214026028
they stayed home in 2020 too via mail-in voting you mouth breather. so why not vote again?

>>214026043
It's lunacy to act like a fucking infomercial asking people to become faithless voters is somehow more dangerous and compelling than threats of major violent uprisings and political upheaval. And yes, I think both things are wrong.

>>214025814
Free speech doesn't apply to promotion of mass murder from the left or right.

>>214025901
He sits in the White House because half of the US population are literally fucking retarded. It's not a praiseworthy feat, I assure you.

>>214026050
You really are dumb

>>214026026
Then there should be some kind of investigation to find out who else was in position to follow Trump's orders, people who had some chance at holding electors hostage and changing the outcome of the election. And then connect them to people in positions of authority in every American institution who would have to ratify this use of violence to force electors to change their vote.

>>214026098
Not an argument. I accept your concession.

>>214025859
>mean Trump absolutely boned underage girls
THERE IS ZERO FUCKING PROOF OF THIS.

>>214025442
You're saying that because people don't understand their rights, we should allow ourselves to be harassed by hall monitors? Even though it isn't the law? Good boy, anon.

>>214026090
So now murder in fiction has to be banned now? Pretty bold stance

>>214025957
>giving people what they lobby for is hypocrisy

>>214026050
democrats arent republicans. they need more than dear leaders good word. if joe biden says he's going to keep shitting on palestine, democrats dont just ask for another scoop of shit because of course dear leader didnt really mean that. they flip out and protest or dont vote. their numbers go down. trumps stay rock solid because he gets votes no matter what he does or says or supports

>>214026114
You are unbelievably naive and gullible to look the other way

>>214026114
He is attracted to underage girls, he has said so repeatedly. He has absolutely no moral railings that would prevent this, and he's been a celebrity for like 40 years and could probably get away with it easily. It's crazy to think it hasn't happened.

>>214025442
>b-but everyone else is retarded s-so I will be retarded too!
How do you get to this point? To cuck to authority that YOU PAY FOR lol

>>214026132
>they need more than dear leaders good word.
this contradicts
>VOTE BLUE; NO MATTER WHO!

>>214026089
Going through the 'faithless elector' route had some chance at working to do that, they'd just have to actually put enough pressure on it. The 'infomercial' was just the public face of a general sentiment in the political class that extraordinary measures should be taken to prevent Trump taking office.

The insurrection had no chance at working. The most it could have done was to get a short delay on ratifying the election to allow for investigation into voter fraud, and that would only have changed the outcome if they found voter fraud.

>>214025402
>>214025587
Ah yes comrade, I too hate America and much rather live in a society where food is scarce and I am abducted to fight in a war I dont agree with!

>>214024086 (OP)
I loathe leftists so fucking much.

>>214026203
>I loathe leftists so fucking much.
Good goy.

>>214026166
>The insurrection had no chance at working.
How do you know this? What if Mike Pence backed down due to the threats to his life? What if there had been 20 more chimpouts like this all over the country? You're being incredibly disingenuous.

>>214026119
i'm saying that understanding your rights has no connection to your ability to access them in a real world scenario. i'm saying that even though you do have rights, you still get harrassed by hall monitors, and knowing your rights doesnt do anything to stop or change that.

it's the difference between knowing what SHOULD entail during a traffic stop and knowing what DOES entail during a traffic stop. basically touch grass and go get pulled over for real. go on a drive at 3:30 am without an id and see how well that works for you

>>214026029
they don't pretend it didn't happen
it flat out didn't happen

there was less turnout and less votes but it was much less than ten million and the election before had a record turnout

>>214025998
Not only that but if masses of illegals are voting enough to change the outcome of elections, that would be a reflection of the failure of America as a whole.
So is America the number one best country in the world or a third world shithole that cant stop millions of non-citizens from manipulating thier government? Pick a lane, already.

>>214025897
Covid restrictions were active from 2020 to 2022
Biden was president during that time

>>214026227
>i'm saying that understanding your rights has no connection to your ability to access them in a real world scenario.
So get cited on nonsense and then sue them in civil court and get 20 grand. You're right on that they do what they want to and assume they'll face no consequences, but you can sue them for their pensions and other things that make it sting. You can get back at them through the law, espcially if they abuse your constitutional rights.

Leftism lost its edge and sense of purpose after it defeated neoconservatives in 2008. It just lost its sense of self. They didn't have to completely fail at controlling their retards and disintegrating on every front.
Seems shortsighted to suggest it's dead, in the same way liberals celebrated the death of conservativism before it was revived under Trump.

>>214026165
How does it? The people that say vote blue no matter who were the people that still showed up to vote (not many). obviously not many democrats believe that in the same way republicans do or their poll numbers wouldnt vary so much

>>214024086 (OP)
He's wrong. The fascists and nazis were gentle souls compared to what I want to happen.

>>214026123
No advocating for murder in real life through extremist propaganda should he banned.

I can tolerate nothing being banned but we can NOT tolerate tame as fuck normal conservative positions (don't trans kids) being banned while the most radical leftism in human history is glorified.

The hypocrisy is unfathomable.

Everyone rants about the national socialists and fascists but nobody whines about the monarchists.

>>214026227
you have a defeatist attitude about pigs

>>214026226
So it would have worked if there was a huge escalation beyond what actually happened, if things that didn't happen had happened? That might be true of anything that didn't happen.

If there was the same kind of huge escalation in the faithless elector angle that would have had a higher chance of success.

>>214026215
>desert bullshit out of nowhere
Absolute clockwork lmao. Keep losing.

>>214026289
>So it would have worked if there was a huge escalation beyond what actually happened
I mean the people there that day clearly thought that was what was going to happen.

>>214026275
>The fascists and nazis were gentle souls compared to what I want to happen.

>>214026293
>losing
Anon, you're still stuck in the left/right politick-brain'd simulation yelling at shadows.

>>214026226
What if nobody cares lmao faggot keep bringing it up see if it helps you for milionth time

>>214026132
Ah yes like when Sam Harris said he’d vote for Biden if he was torturing children in his basement cos it’s still better than Trump

>>214026293
Shalom.

>>214025698
U.S. assistance to Israel for the four-year span that roughly corresponds to Jan 20, 2017 Jan 20, 2021 (i.e. FY2017–FY2020 totals reported) was about $13.95 billion (obligations).
U.S. assistance to Ukraine for the roughly comparable four-year span Jan 20, 2021 Jan 20, 2025 is an order of magnitude larger — on the scale of $174 billion–$183 billion depending on accounting rules and cut-off date.
$174 billion is about 12.5 times larger than $13.95 billion.

>>214026333
I didn't bring it up, this started because one of you retards was crying because the Will and Grace lady made an infomercial 10 years ago

>>214026317
>butmuh third position
Your brand of turd world thought is just another shape of leftardism, go back to watching your innocent federal agent

Why does anyone defend an 83% civilian kill rate by Israel?

>>214026165
testing that theory will be to see if those people, the older neoliberal democrats, show up to support Zorhan as mayor or not

>>214025755
>>214025755
>>214025755
If in 10+ years the Azov battalion makes a terrorist attack against Ameirca does that somehow retroactively mean we shouldn't have funded Ukraine against Russia?

Defending a innocent country from a genocidal communist invasion isn't fucking meddling and a small subgroup of that innocent country turning evil doesn't negate the morality of defending them at the time.

>>214026379
I know it should be higher.

>>214025877
>>214025877
They had zipties! They were going to hold Pence hostage

>>214026347
>WAAAAH DESERT YOU MUST CARE ABOUT DESERT YOU FUCKING WORKING CLASS CHUD IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THEY WANT TO DEPORT MAHMOUD!!!!

>>214024086 (OP)
I never heard of this guy before this week and have heard of him 4 times now so far

>>214026368
>Your brand of turd world thought is just another shape of leftardism, go back to watching your innocent federal agent
>left
>right
Back to Facebook, grandpa. This is a bit more advanced than the stage play you mentioned.

>>214024417
You retards have lowered the bar for what fascism is so much that you think getting the wrong coffee at starbucks is fascism.
>"NO, THEY'RE REMOVING THE VIOLENT STREET NIGGERS FROM DC, NOOOO, THAT'S FASCISM!!!"
Violent street niggers are not a requirement for democracy. All of these people; the criminals, the illegals, etc, wouldn't have even HAD to be moved in such a draconian fashion of you dipshits weren't practically trying to legalize crime for over a decade.

>>214026341
and he voted democrat. which makes him not one of the millions of people who stayed home and actually determined the election. do you need to believe democrats to be so homogeneous that you cant conceive of them collapsing due to infighting? is it that republicans are homogeneous and you cant comprehend two things that exist and are different and everything must be equal?

>>214026396
aw man, I got one of the crazies on me lol

>>214026307
They thought they'd be able to delay the ratification of the election so an investigation into voter fraud could take place. If they're supposed to have been trying to change how the electors were voting or force other parts of government to ratify Trump as POTUS, they'd also need to be knowingly part of a conspiracy to actually make that happen, and that conspiracy would need to actually include people who had the capacity to make that happen.

A lot of Democrats, and also plenty of Republicans, thought that there would be some loophole to keep Trump out in 2016. Faithless electors (who are not being threatened with violence) have some kind of chance at changing the outcome of an American Presidential election.

I LOVE THIS TELEVISION AND FILM DISCUSSION

>>214026379
It should be 100% and they should also drone strike every faggot who thinks this is something important for western people.

>>214026357
>ask about the debt
>posts big spike graph
>its for inflation

why would you bother posting this graph when i could look at it for two seconds and point out that its not measuring the debt? do you just see line go up but not words?

>>214026422
>is it that republicans are homogeneous and you cant comprehend two things that exist and are different and everything must be equal?
nah the issue is that their persecution fantasy is more important to them than reality

>>214026379
Because most miggers are impotent and upset they can't kill brown people in their own countries so they just live vicariously through the same jews that filled their country with brown people in the first place. Total slave mentality.

>>214026446
Our celebrities are hyper-polarized faggots who force politics into everything, so now politics is in everything.
I don't like it either, but it's not our fucking fault. These are the fags who unironically say shit like "All art is political!"
Well, faggot? Sorry, but all art is political. These queers want to fucking talk about it constantly, so we're talking about it constantly.

>>214026391
>>214026460
No, I mean actually. Normal people who don't take their hate of faggots like Hasan and put it on the innocent people getting blown up. Seriously, why? Would you guys back up Israel if they were blowing up your grandma's house while your nephews were being babysat? Where's the humanity lol?

>>214026402
>my branch of gargling state's balls is too intelligent for you I'll have you know!

>>214026395
OK so next they'd need to have the Supreme Court on their side, they'd need dozens of generals and secretaries and intelligence mandarins and plenty of others to actually push it through.

It's not impossible that this vast conspiracy did exist (we're all smart people here so we know vast conspiracies like this influence world politics all the time), it's just that this is what would need to be investigated. Proving they did breaking and entering, violence against police and security, and said they didn't like what the government was doing but they did like Trump, that shouldn't even suggest something like treason.

>>214026500
Why'd you post a government agent, grandpa?

>>214026384
>innocent
It is one for one reenactment of Shadow Moses Cuban Crisis, except it gone hot.

>>214026022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots#Day_3_%E2%80%93_Friday,_May_1
Upon request, Bush invoked the Insurrection Act with Executive Order 12804, federalizing the California Army National Guard and authorizing federal troops and federal law enforcement officers to help restore law and order.With Bush's authority, the Pentagon activated Operation Garden Plot, placing the California Army National Guard and federal troops under the newly formed Joint Task Force Los Angeles (JTF-LA)
Why lie? Everyone knows the national guard was deployed during the Rodney King riots.

>>214026493
>Would you guys back up Israel if they were blowing up your grandma's house

No, I'd back then if they blew your grandma's house so that you'd stop polluting TV board.