Thread 214037383

When will Hollywood start making Solarpunk kinos?

>>214037383 (OP)
Cyberspunk is superior to both.

>>214037383 (OP)
Solarpunk looks even faggier than steampunk.

burgerpunk mogs

Words have meaning, don't they?

>>214037383 (OP)
Brave New World already got an adaptation, it sucked.

>>214037383 (OP)
Didn't they try this in Seattle, and then an African warlord took over?

I prefer burgerpunk

>>214037480
They tried it in Seattle but then it rained for 6 years.

>>214037480
yes, the goal of chaz was to establish a solarpunk atopia (neither utopian nor dystopian) but then they had to pop a bunch of reactionaries with a glock and had to make a run for it

as revolutions come and go, when will be the next time to strike? we will never know... marx be praised

>>214037383 (OP)
>never heard of 'solarpunk'
>read op, kind of like it
>'eco-communism'
Why do political fags have to ruin everything. As if personal freedom automatically means the end of the world.

>>214037383 (OP)
Solarpunk is a cope fantasy made up entirely by complete retards who have no idea how agriculture, botony, architecture, electricity, or frankly anything work at any level.

what about goonpunk

For me it's Banepunk. The highrises.

>>214037383 (OP)
zoomers are obsessed with cyberpunk stuff doe
>>214037712
that's any cyberpunk story with sexbots and VR sex

>>214037409
But it's wholesome. ; )

>>214037383 (OP)
>slapping a hammer and sickle on solarpunk
this is alchemically self defeating

>>214037678
QRD?

>>214038990
NTA
My understanding of Solarpunk is it's literally just a fantasy aesthetic of clean futuristic buildings, balanced with natural greenery, bright sunshine, and generally a sparkly optimistic future
solar panels tend to be a feature of the aesthetic.
blue, green, white color palette with golden sunshine

It's hardly any deeper than that
but it an aesthetic that gets co-opted by all kinds of retarded incompatible ideologies and political camps

for me its decopunk and atompunk

>>214037383 (OP)
What stories could you set in a Solarpunk setting? That's the problem with utopias as a setting. There's no conflict, and in order to have a story you need to have a conflict. Even Star Trek had to ultimately inject conflict from the outside in the form of aliens. All the episodes set on Earth are painfully fucking boring.

>>214037678
>>214037409
>>214039143
>>214039098
Why can't chuds accept the vibrant wholesomeness of Solarpunk?

>solarpunk
>not the entire earth covered in panels and everyone lives under artificial lighting.

"Punk" implies a rebellion against authority.

Cyberpunk works because the protagonists are living within the corrupt system and fighting against it.

>>214039278
>we shouldn't just cover entire deserts where no one lives and nothing grows with solar panels because uhhhhhhhhh

>>214039357
If solar energy becomes super efficient, you think people will stop at deserts?

>>214039412
The earth's deserts are more than enough to make us a type 2 civ as the tech currently stands, and the more efficient it gets the fewer panels we'll need.

commies sure do love to fantasize about how their utopia will look, but will never tell you how it actually works

>>214039442
Doesn’t answer my question

>>214039504
In Star Trek it took eugenics followed by thermonuclear war leaving 10 million left

>>214039357
higher maintenance costs in deserts
nobody lives there so maintenance towns would have to be made and continually staffed
lots of losses incurred by having to send excess generated by the panels elsewhere
and panels can never be baseload while an efficient power storage system is not available

as it stands the best option as of yet is gas compression storage and people really dont like that because it essentially requires you to make several bombs underneath the city you are attempting to power

>>214037394
Example?

>>214039706
Make it so

>>214039641
It does, as tech gets better, surface covered diminishes, and the surface covered wouldn't ever need to extend beyond deserts anyhow.
I don't care about retarded "what if"s
>duurrr what if an alien visited and took offense in our solar tech and killed us all hurr

>>214039270
that's marxist-slop
Nothing to do with solarpunk.

>>214039357
Depriving entire desert areas of sunlight has major ecological effects anon. Wind, solar, and hydro drastically alter the environment around them negatively. Nuclear is superior, particularly it's modern incarnations, but the real tech that needs to improve is energy storage. Batteries need to get better for all kinds of energy production.

>>214040035
>sand get less warm BAD

>>214040062
This but unironically

>>214037573
Do you get similarly mad that cyberpunk is set in mega-corporatist societies?

My victorian child came out as trans

r/fuckcars commies jerk off about how cool it would be to have solarpunk stories instead of actually writing interesting solarpunk stories because there are none. Captivating stories are built around conflict. Cyberpunk has conflict at every level of society. In a cyberpunk city there are a million little plotlines that could be going on. Solarpunk is a self congratulatory premise about having solved all the conflicts already.
Also so fucking gay to make a "punk" and just expect the stories to spawn instead of making a story that popularizes it in the first place.

>>214037383 (OP)
>eco-communism

So starving to death because you prioritized nature over human well being?
Communists deserve death btw

>>214040170
Cyberpunk ironically is about finding freedom in dystopic cyber-future oppression.
Solarpunk, ideally (and in my understanding of its origins) is about being free, in a future that finds balance with nature. Usually rebuilding after some kind of apocalypse which represents the oppression of the past.
Communism is dystopic and has no place in Solarpunk.

>>214040262
>r/fuckcars commies
I want them all to die so bad.

>>214040289
>Communism is dystopic
It's the only utopic vision ever tried, but no instance of it was executed competently, that'a the only reason it gets a bad rep (and illiterate retards not having the intellectual capacity to grasp Marx)

>>214040035
And leftists hate nuclear because they don't actually want to save the environment

>>214040334
Go to bed you have school in the morning

>communism
>anarchism
Pick one and only one you delusional trannies.
How are these retards even real?
If they had and self respect they'd put a bullet in their heads.

>>214040306
Just run them over.

>>214040334
>try to implement utopia
>it always ends in utter hellish disaster
As I said. Communism is dystopic.

>>214040334
Lmao
It's been tried to the tee numerous times and still failed.
And marx'a flat earth ramblings have been refuted by many people including bohm bawerk, mises and Bertrand Russell.

Marxism is a religious cult based around death and marxists belong in prison at the very least.

>>214039270
This is a much more depressing reality than Cyberpunk

>>214040334
I read the manifesto and it was basically advocating what we have now but worse.
>central banking, state control of basically everything, abolish the family

What kind of bootlicker would support such a thing?

>>214040340
Nuclear is too fucking expensive right now

the "punk" suffix applies a gritty, edginess. you can't just slap it on whatever you want

>>214040498
Only due to regulations

>>214040502
"Solarpunk" is kind of a ridiculous newish term, but punk also refers to a rebel mindset generally.
You could say Solarpunk rebels against the prevailing pessimism.

>>214040371
look at the pic dummy
the commies get 1 silo and the anarchists get another
it's called sharing :^)

>>214037383 (OP)
Do Leftists believe that solar panels grow on solar panel trees?

They do know how un-eco friendly the process of producing them is right?

Right?

>>214037409
Have you ever noticed how everything good, optimistic, sincere, and kind is branded as faggy?
This evil philosophy corrupts our minds and turns us towards hatred and violence.
It's like a psyop designed to make humanity destroy itself.

What does a real anarchist even look like, I don't mean reddit larping faggots, and actual everything's allowed anarchist

>>214040510
I don't want unregulated nuclear power
Regulated nuclear power is too expensive
Good ol' coal for me

>>214040644
Isn't that just a libertarian

>>214038990
Farms, residential structures, power generaion, etc. are all separated for the same reason your toilet and kitchen are separated and you have one big fridge instead of a minifridge in every room.

Each one gives increasing returns when you put a lot of it together, and the needs of each interfere with each other at a fundamental level. Making the civilizations they depict in those gay concept art pieces would be extremely wasteful in so many ways.

It's basically a child's mentality of how to increasing efficiency but we should expect nothing less from redditors.

>>214040609
No it is actually faggy shit for fags lol
Looked up solarpunk and found this in 1 minute
https://www.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1myegbw/usa_protesters_repaint_pulse_memorial_rainbow/

>>214039270
>a pear tree sitting in a wheelbarrow

>>214040689
lolbertarians still demand some sort of mutual understanding. anarchism throws all that out the window

>>214040755
So it's just existing in a state of animal nature, where the biggest tallest male takes all the women and resources and murders the lesser males?

>>214040644
Pic related but willingly I guess.

>>214040689
No Anarchists want all hierarchies dismantled like "true" Communists and they believe things will just magically work.

Liberatarians still believe in hierarchies.

>>214040794
sounds based to me

>>214040816
yeah it's just eugenics with extra steps

>>214040644
>>214040689
>>214040801

At least anarcho-capitalists actually thought out the real world implications of their ideology instead of living in a fantasyland.

>>214040644
Read Stirner.
>>214040794
Stirner basically concedes the strongest will take if they so choose. A voluntary association of incels could form and destroy your society thoughbeit

>>214040872
>bigger is better
sounds like my ex, and anything my ex believed in was generally wrong.
anyhow, conciseness is all that matters.

>>214040340
Only the boomer ones who are running on cold war paranoia about nuclear proliferation. Who still think nuclear reactors can detonate like nuclear bombs and produce green glowing goo as waste.
Most leftists these days are in favor of nuclear. Some of them are still afraid of nuclear waste, but then you teach them about how recycling nuclear waste has been a solved problem for decades and they are instantly on your side.

Leftists are big on stopping climate change and we're at the point where we can't wait for magical tech solutions to drop out of the sky. We have to use what we have and do it at scale.

There is no such thing as "Solarpunk", it was an attempted post hoc narrative rewrite of millenial discord trannies and 40 something chapotraphouse patrons (but I repeat myself) on twitter getting embarrassingly emotional about a literal yogurt ad and unironically advocating for it as their serious vision for the future. Just look at the fucking comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ng5ZvrDm4

Even then 90% of what got them was the idea of an implied matriarchal, sexless, infantilized society lazily provided over by (ambiguously but acceptably) brown (ambiguously but acceptably) butch women with white men (or physically strong, potentially intimidating men in general but especially white men) basically nonexistent in any sort of prominent role dressed up in a cutesy nonthreatening aesthetic lifted from the handful of the most entry level Ghibli movies. Also a few token windmills and solar panels to show we're living in harmony with nature y'all!

>>214040801
>Liberatarians still believe in hierarchies.
Because hierarchies aren't inherently authoritarian and hierarchies don't require the state.

"Anarcho" communists want to use the state to ban hierarchies.
It's the most contradictory ideology ever created.
You know vaush claims to be an anarchist while at the same time supporting endless laws and regulations?

>>214037383 (OP)
We're already in a cyberpunk dystopia without all the cool shit.

>>214040957
Agh you nigger, I was trying to forget that ad.

>>214040644
Anarchists nearly universally want to become the government instead of the government.

>>214037383 (OP)
Solarpunk sucks.
Nobody cares that woke trash

>>214037383 (OP)
Demolition Man?

Nu Atompunk is the way

>>214040957
i have a hunch, a sneaking suspicion if you will, that a society without white people will not look anything like this...

>>214041031
We do have a bit of cool shit, but yeah. This is the realistic version of a cyberpunk dystopia.
We're like 2 years away from robot dogs and drones gunning down protestors.

>>214040957
Honestly a pretty cool video minus the fucking yogurt ad, ugly characters and the fact it's fantasy and would not work. Wouldn't mind a animated movie in that setting that would be good.

>>214037511
>but then they had to pop a bunch of reactionaries
Oh right those two 16 year old black kids. Then they never came forward with who did it. While protesting for police accountability.

>>214040021
>wouldn't ever need
Governments and corporations aren’t gonna stop at just enough for needs. Consumption is gonna keep increasing. It’s solarpunk not solarutopia