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Anonymous No.214040058 >>214040089 >>214040161 >>214040174 >>214040180 >>214040210 >>214040300 >>214040301 >>214040377 >>214040809 >>214041540 >>214041666
>kills a cop in LA
>takes his gun and car
>cruises around town murdering
>8000 LAPD officers aren't constantly trying to kill him

completely unrealistic. immersion ruined.
Anonymous No.214040089 >>214040203 >>214040662
>>214040058 (OP)
Well he isnt black.

You cant expect LA cops to care about white crime.
Anonymous No.214040109 >>214040203 >>214040937
California is a blue state so the cops just thought to themselves "ACAB, the only good cop is a dead cop" and let him do his thing.
Anonymous No.214040161
>>214040058 (OP)
>>8000 LAPD officers aren't constantly trying to kill him
see this would have been a very thing to have happen.

Realism is based.
Anonymous No.214040174 >>214040547 >>214040622
>>214040058 (OP)
it was the early 90's, the police weren't militarized yet.
Anonymous No.214040180
>>214040058 (OP)
You could get away with that in 1991.
Anonymous No.214040203 >>214040278 >>214040508 >>214041444
>>214040109

LAPD is literally the most militant, self governing, loose cannon, blatantly ignoring the law police force in the country and pretty much always has been. They even have their own police gangs

California is literally feudal state where property owners are barons and police are like their knights errant

>>214040089
also in the 20th century is was notoriously racist under that one police chief
Anonymous No.214040210 >>214040456
>>214040058 (OP)
he assumed his identity
Anonymous No.214040249
Even at a 6 star wanted level how would the LAPD deal with a Terminator? T1 already showed that 5.56 barely makes an inferior model flinch. They'd have to wait for the national guard to bring in an APC or something to blow it up
Anonymous No.214040278
>>214040203
>California is literally feudal state where property owners are barons and police are like their knights errant
That's everywhere. That's the primary purpose of police.
Anonymous No.214040300
>>214040058 (OP)
he had the clothing change cheat code enabled to lower his wanted level.
Anonymous No.214040301
>>214040058 (OP)
I always go for realism when thinking of ideas, it will always give you something that's never been done before.
Anonymous No.214040377 >>214040568 >>214041208
>>214040058 (OP)
I've talked to ChatGPT about LA at length. Beverly Hills is also from there, Bel Air, Beverly Hills cop, Hollywood, South Central LA. They've got like five or six different worlds in LA. And it has shaped the world's perception of the US. Because of movies.
Anonymous No.214040456 >>214040550 >>214041305
>>214040210

He actually didn't, and this is a detail about the film that has always annoyed me. The actor who plays the cop who initially checks out the T-1000's teleport area is clearly played by a different guy, a real missed opportunity. I have an autistic re-write for the first scene.

What actually happens is that other guy (cop) pulls up in Skid Row or thereabouts to check out "an electrical disturbance". Then the naked T-1000 sneaks up behind him and "takes him out", although it isn't perfectly clear that the cop has been killed. A moment later, the T-1000 is wearing a cop outfit and immediatley commandeers the cop car, starting a search for John Connor. The first cop and the T-1000 being two different actors undercuts the T-1000's gimmick, which is mimicry (although the ambiguity in the above attack slightly preserves the idea that the T-1000 might be the "good guy" this time, an obvious spoiler (this time Arnie's actually the good guy, as proven at the moment of the mall shootout) which the trailer itself foolishly undermines IIRC).

cont.
Anonymous No.214040508 >>214040659
>>214040203
>California is literally feudal state where property owners are barons and police are like their knights errant
well I'm from california so I know that's not true but I wish it was
Anonymous No.214040547
>>214040174
You don't see shots like this in modern low effort crap
Anonymous No.214040550 >>214040630 >>214040839
>>214040456
that's literally what happens in the movie
Anonymous No.214040568 >>214040682
>>214040377
>it has shaped the world's perception of the US. Because of movies.

says A.i. and some chud on 4chang
Anonymous No.214040622
>>214040174
August 29 1997. Three billion lives died that day. La traffic must have always been horrid.
Anonymous No.214040630 >>214040754 >>214040839
>>214040550
Not the guy but no, he's already robert patrick when he time travels back.
Anonymous No.214040659
>>214040508
>on your way to work
>stray bullet hits your temple and you die
>turns out Greg von Orange questioned William von Sacramento's loyalty to Sir Bloomberg III so they started duelling to the death with their service glocks two blocks down
I'd watch that.
Anonymous No.214040662
>>214040089
FPBP
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Anonymous No.214040682 >>214041244
>>214040568
I don't know. I think it happened because of tax breaks. Nonetheless, a lot of movies take place in LA.
>Predator 2
>Terminator 2
>Beverly Hills cop 2

Hmm, there might be a pattern there.
Anonymous No.214040754
>>214040630
>comes back to 1991
>naked
>see cop
>take him out
>assumes his identity

why is this so hard for you chuds to understand?
Anonymous No.214040809
>>214040058 (OP)
He's made of liquid metal, retard.
Anonymous No.214040839 >>214040947 >>214040998
>>214040550
>>214040630

If the earlier anon is saying that the T-1000 simply took over the cop's identity for a few hours before anyone got wise to what was going on, that's reasonable (and a very natural inference). The T-1000 is conveniently presented with the "police officer" appearance right off the bat, which grants him instant access everywhere, by design, which is why it uses the cop look as its base state. But he very definitely does not assume the cop's exact appearance, as shown in the film. The latter point is what I was focusing on.

My re-write of the first scene goes like this. The T-1000 teleports in, and is shown as an amorphous silver surfer blob, no definite human features. The cop (played by Patrick) pulls up and checks out the scene. He crunches broken glass under his boot (as in the original, establishing broken glass, Skid Row, bad neighborhood). He rounds a corner, and improbably, contrasting with the broken glass, there is a HUGE MIRROR propped up against the side of a truck. The cop (Patrick) regards his own reflection with a real look of human wonder and emotion in his face, reaches out and touches the mirror-

Sudden cut: the cop (still Patrick) walks quickly back to his car, his expression a bit more deadpan, the slightly angry look. He uses the box to immediately begin searching John Connor.
Anonymous No.214040937 >>214041440
>>214040109
Cali Wali was still a reliably Republican state through the late 80s and early 90s until the full effects of Reagan's amnesty kicked in.
Anonymous No.214040947 >>214041050
>>214040839
Considering you're talking about adding an entire new scene worth of CGI, your take would probably have costed millions. Just make it so he finds a puddle of actual liquid mercury, reaches out to touch it, then a quick cut, the cop nowhere to be seen raises from the bottom into frame, then just walks with purpose towards the cop car, like he no longer cares at all about whatever happened there.
Anonymous No.214040998
>>214040839
I still don't get why Cameron shat all over the greatest plot twist of all time. He was sitting on it.

>Terminator doesn't kill anyone in the bar
didn't notice it
>He gets out of the bar, Bad to The Bone starts playing
>Grabs the bartender's sunglasses
Getting a little suspicious
>The T-1000 gets introduced, he looks more skinny, human
Menacing drone music in the background, the T-1000 looks around, doesn't say a word.

For fuck's sake, did we really need to see the back alley, doorway sequence to connect the dots that Arnold wasn't going to be the bad guy? Why did he shit all over his own movie like that? Because he could? Fuck you Cameron.
>I've got SFX, people will like it anyways
FUCK YOU
Anonymous No.214041050 >>214041191
>>214040947

You have the basic feel of what I was describing right in the latter part of your reply, but your added cost estimation is silly based on what I wrote and what they already had available. They already had the tech for complex humanoid silver-guy to look reasonably convincing, a big mirror that doesn't actually move is cheap, and you can even use a literal mirror as a simple replacement for the closer shots. Your suggestion about the camera pan in the next cut is what I had in mind (but didn't actually write, a simple action/blocking thing.
Anonymous No.214041191 >>214041330
>>214041050
Bro your mirror idea is just lame. Why would there be a mirror in some back alley? Why would the cop care at all about it? The pool of mercury foreshadows the liquid metal terminator, it maintains the sci fi feeling and it'd be strange enough to catch the cop's attention.
Anonymous No.214041208 >>214041363
>>214040377
I'm aware you're probably from an irrelevant shithole, but you have to understand just because you found out recently Beverly Hills and Bel Air are in Greater LA doesn't mean that the average person didn't already know that and has known it since childhood.
>I've talked to ChatGPT about Paris at length, and it turns out the Eiffel Tower and Notre Dame is also there
Anonymous No.214041244
>>214040682
>Nonetheless, a lot of movies FILMED IN HOLLYWOOD take place in LA.
fascinating take
Anonymous No.214041305
>>214040456
You see the T-1000 looking over the computer to make sure the other cop isn't getting up. He didn't kill him and copy him. He didn't want to bring too much attention to himself so he
>steals a cop car
Honestly....I can't defend this part.
Anonymous No.214041330 >>214041447 >>214042416
>>214041191

>Why would there be a mirror in some back alley?
Precisely because finding it there is strange. It doesn't belong. Some junkie should have come along and smashed the thing already, but this hasn't happened. The existence of a large, unbroken mirror in a nasty back alley also contrasts with the broken glass under the cop's boot from a moment before. That broken glass is normal, this large mirror is not. I'm thinking a pane like 8' x 10', for clarification (conservation of the T-1000's volume, just like when it's on the checkerboard floor), something a human can get lost in for a few seconds.
>Why would the cop care at all about it?
See above. The mirror thing is also a better gag presentation because it allows the actor to regard his own reflection (identity/other), a very basic movie trick but well employed in this case as well.
Anonymous No.214041363
>>214041208
Shut up. Ask any European and they would have never made a link between Beverly Hills, Bell Air and South Central. The look as different worlds in the movies. You expect me to know every inch of your flagwaving suicidal country? I bet I could name more states of your own country than you. Which is saying something about the size of the antenna you have.
Anonymous No.214041440
>>214040937
Also all the gerrymandering that retard Newsom drew attention to by sperging about Texas, lol
Anonymous No.214041444
>>214040203
>LAPD is literally the most militant, self governing, loose cannon, blatantly ignoring the law police force in the country and pretty much always has been. They even have their own police gangs
not anymore, check out shitcago and jewyork. blacked out police cars with no decals, no colors, beanies, facemasks.
at least lapd had a cop looking uniform
Anonymous No.214041447 >>214041647 >>214042416
>>214041330
I think we're just not going to see eye to eye on this. I feel a mirror is more mysterious in a horror movie kind of deal. Gives off the impression the place is haunted. We're dealing with a robot for the future. Just a pool of liquid mercury does the job just as well, gives justification for the cop to kneel and later be out of the frame for the swap, and doesn't overexplain what happened.
I don't see this argument going anywhere so let's agree to disagree and also your idea is shit.
Anonymous No.214041540 >>214041732
>>214040058 (OP)
The time span is probably a couple of weeks to a month of all what is in the movie happening. He can turn into any of the cops. Totally in the realm of possibility
Anonymous No.214041647
>>214041447

C'mere. Blow it out your ass.
Anonymous No.214041666
>>214040058 (OP)
He can shapeshift, dude. Remember?
Anonymous No.214041732
>>214041540
Way less than that. It's 3 days, 4 at most
Terminators arrive on Day 1
Everything from John's intro up to Sarah pulling slugs out of the T800 in the garage is Day 2
Going to Mexico, attacking Dyson, blowing up Cyberdyne, final confrontation is Day 3, maybe stretching into the early hours of Day 4
Anonymous No.214041767
It's a shame Terminator is dead as a genre. Where a robot with human traits looks scary. Picrel is what made me realize 'Terminator' is dead. It can only exist as retro-futurism. They missed the window to make a future war movie.
Anonymous No.214042416
>>214041447
>>214041330
All these words and you're forgetting that we wouldn't get to see Robert Patrick's balls if the scene was written any other way