Thread 214050585

Gunnsisters.........I thought Battinson was going to be part of our universe after Superman hit $1 Billion.........What happened?

They can just reboot it again the incel Riddler was retarded anyway.

>>214050585 (OP)
battinson doesn't fit with gunn's thing
battinson is better on its own

That basically means it's not happening until that whole "restoring faith" thing actually materializes in the rest of the Superman Saga having a bigger box office

That quote sounds to me like the situation is just completely up in the air.
I think what they'll do is cast Pattinson as Batman but say that the Reeves stuff isn't really canon. He did that with the Suicide Squad characters

>>214050585 (OP)
Why are the Warner Bros CEO, CCO, and board of directors all so retarded/incompetent?

Unironically, why doesn't WB just invest, say, $100 million as a one-time investment to hire competent writers from HBO and DC to create a proper five-year plan? And why don't they plan ahead regarding which competent directors to hire?

They pay millions for actors - but who even cares about them these days? The "movie star" is dead. Making a real plan, no matter how much it costs upfront, would actually save them money in the long run.

>>214050585 (OP)
If they're still figuring things out with batman maybe I can have hope this shit won't last long enough to ruin Aquaman, it was already a miracle the DCEU movie was good and the sequel tolerable. No way any new Aquaman would be good again

>>214050585 (OP)
I could see them waiting for Reeves to make up his mind or something. Besides, even if they decide Battinson was the dcu batman they would only announce it after the Batman 2 (or even have something inside the movie to reveal this fact). Warner obviously knows that putting batinson next to the new Superman would be a killer move but if James Gun is truly putting Reeve’s artistic integrity over everything else I would respect him a little bit.

I think they will cast a different Batman for the DCU with an approach that is somewhat opposite to what Battinson is. Back then this would have been impossible, but after the 3 Spidermen movie and a bunch of ridiculous multiuniverse cameos through Marvel and DC, retcons, recasts, etc, then I believe people are ready to just accept two simultaneous versions.

This would allow Reeves to work on his own and evolve that dark mafia Gotham he was going for, like an elseworld. Meanwhile, the DC Gunnverse goes for mainstream attention, with a more broad, sci-fi/magic and light universe, perhaps even as an opportunity for a more charismatic and sarcastic Batman that could interact with the Corenswet's Superman.

Some people on the line to the theaters will go "wait, is this one with Robert Pattinson?" and you say "no, it's that other guy", "oh ok". Some people will dislike that, some will like it, but there will be two versions and people will understand.

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>>214050819
>be named head of DC on film and given full autonomy and monopoly over the IP
>can't use the coolest and most valuable character because of Matt Reeves
James Gunn is so cucked.

>>214050585 (OP)
comic books are for CHILDREN

>>214051510
Two mainline Batman franchises on film running cocurrently will never happen. It's that simple. WB/DC is telling Gunn to make do best he can with what he has and leave Batman to Reeves who has proven box office success along with excellent critic/audience reception.

>>214050610
every single thing in that movie was retarded

>>214050585 (OP)
Dcu is dead desu. Imagine releasing an Aquaman movie nowadays without momoa. Yikes.

>>214050585 (OP)
>>214051412
>>214051497
>>214051510
Warner Bros. are even dumber than you think.
They had a great gaming franchise with Arkham, only to kill Arkham-verse Batman in the shitty Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League game. Even before that, they made an unrelated CW show called “Gotham Knights” with some dude named Turner Hayes as the main character, AND a completely unrelated game also called “Gotham Knights” (literally the same name, wtf) with Robin (Tim Drake), Nightwing, Red Hood, and Batgirl.

They also had that trash Batwoman show, and for some reason decided to use Kevin Conroy in live action for the first time; only to make him some evil alternate-universe Batman in the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover and to kill him.

And as if that wasn’t enough, in between DCEU and DCU they also made a CW show with Superman. Why? Fucking retards.

>>214050585 (OP)
Battinson has always been in a separate universe. You snyderjeets are so delusional that you just make up random facts to see the DCU fall.

For the 1000th time, THE SNYDERVERSE IS DEAD AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

>>214050585 (OP)
No chance DC is gonna let Gunn butcher their cash cow, nobody cares about Superman so he got free reign to do that but Batman is seen as a serious and gritty character in the live action adaptations and Gunn’s unnuanced manchild ass will RUIN him with daddy issues and hamfisted bat credit card references- he’s gonna have to include Pattinson in his verse or there will simply not be a justice league film under Gunn

>>214050585 (OP)
No one thought that. Your an idiot if you thought that. Everyone already knew Pattison Batman is it's own thing (as it should be)

Your like the idiots that wondered if Christian Bale Batman would be the snyderverse Batman

>>214050585 (OP)
Batman doesn't have a place in the DCU, Mister Terrific is smarter and stronger than he could be without looking ridiculous..

>>214051578
>Two mainline Batman franchises on film running cocurrently will never happen. It's that simple

Why not?
There is a Superman series that spanned two other Supermen in theaters. There are two Flashes, one of them was in a movie with three Batmen. There are like 5 generations of Reed Richards. You can play Batman Arkham Asylum, watch a Nolan movie, then an episode of Brave and the Bold.

People get it.

>>214051646
That Superman show was good tho

Forgot to add that Batman was killed in both the CW show and the shitty game 'Gotham Knights'. So they killed two game Batmans, and two (maybe three, I don’t remember what happened to Arrowverse Batman) in TV shows. There was also that shitty Batman in the failed and canceled Titans show.

WB also has multiple Batman cartoon movies and series. it makes zero sense.

>>214051734
It's good, but it's cheapening of character to use Superman in CW arrow verse. They should have used these competent writers for movies

By the way, Both Smallville and Fox Gotham were good series about young Clark and Bruce

>>214051737
>>214051646
Damn, they are crazy, I haven't thought about how many versions are there right now. You also have Bruce Wayne from Gotham and Bruce Wayne from Joker.

>>214050819
Batman is more popular than Superman so it would likely have a bigger box office to begin with assuming it got high reviews and everything.

>>214051646
I miss those pre-TDS CW shows like you wouldn't believe

>>214051716
Again, there has been no mainline Batman movie franchise since Christopher Nolan's third Batman movie. Ben Affleck never had a solo movie. All this other nonsense you named couldn't matter less. Adding an unproven, Gunn-produced Batman franchise and having it compete with a proven, acclaimed Elseworlds Batman with prestige directors and actors and no cinematic universe baggage that only appeals to terminally online freaks and not the average layman in the audience is brand suicide.

>>214050585 (OP)
you did?

This has no chance of making money, especially with the competition it has. How will they spin its failure? Or do they panic and fire Gunn in classic Warner Bros reactionary fashion and start over?

>>214050585 (OP)
Battinson is gay so he belongs in the Snyderverse.

Do you share the pedophile's opinion?

>It's all fluid
Nothing fluid about your Starlordman adaption flopping miserably

>>214051948
How is this guy still working in Hollywood with HALF the shit he has posted on social media? I mean, pedophilic stuff is not blacklist worthy (as we all know) but talking shit of fellow industry peers and their work? That's for sure a blacklisting.

>>214051929
Don't forget; even THE Suicide Squad underperformed, but somehow, he still got the keys to the entire DC kingdom. Then he went on to make a Superman film that underperformed and made less than Man of Steel.
Gunn must have dirt on a WB exec or something. Neither THE Suicide Squad nor Superman outright bombed, but WB kicked Snyder out for far less. It doesn't make sense.

>>214051716
Only nerds watch those shows normal people don't care about that shit at all. The average moviegoer isn't going to understand why Batman is a different guy everywhere movie

I don't think anyone cares about battinson for real. I definitely dont think people want to see it more than whatever Gunn will make.

>>214052145
The theory that Zazlav is purposefully tanking the DC brand as a Trojan horse to weaken WB despite huge hits this year like Minecraft so he can sell it to Paramount/Universal and that's why he pretended that Superman was a huge hit to the media. He is using Gunn and his stupidity to tank the entire company so he can sell it for cheap to another company and get the big paycheck for himself and then retire.

>>214052168
Most people couldn't be bothered to see the new one because Corenswet is an F-list nobody taking the role from a beloved and famous actor like Cavill and normalfags just get angry that they replaced him and stop caring on the spot.

>>214052180
You are mistaken, at least from what I see online it seems like Batinsson is pretty universally beloved, all I see are people hoping he'll get to crossover with dcu superman

>>214050585 (OP)
Once super girl bombs it will all be canceled and Reeves will take over all of DC like he should have with The Batman

>>214051562
If written by Gunn yes.

>>214052264
F-list? The word you're looking for is called being an "unknown actor". Most people with a brain knew the snyderverse was far beyond salvation and had to be rebooted. Cavill deserved better yes but he replacement was inevitable

>>214052277
>what I see online it seems like Batinsson is pretty universally beloved,

it's all relative. He's only liked because snyder verse is dead. if Hollywood wasn't braindead, the movie would be panned

>>214052323
This but there'll be no DC to take over because DC Studios will be dissolved and DC becomes just another WB IP under their umbrella with no autonomy, right next to Harry Potter and others. The status quo reverses back to the 2000's where movies were only made if a director had a vision and wanted to make a real movie based on the comics and not make a cosplay show reenacting those same shitty nu-comics.

>>214052264

>beloved and famous actor like Cavill

Cavil is uncharismatic and is an anti-draw. How many people even know of Night Hunter or The Cold Light Of Day?

>>214052389
I didn't care for anything post-MoS besides Joker (before the sequel tainted it) and consider MoS a standalone vaguely set in the Nolanverse.

Truth is, it was a financially retarded decision to reboot a franchise that had a star as popular and universally famous as Henry Cavill. Just give him that blank check and full creative control he wanted to make that Superman movie with Matthew Vaughn which ignored the Snyderverse and soft-rebooted the character. Apparently, everyone but Cavill was going to be recast and it would have had the Elite as villains which is right up Vaughn's wheelhouse.

What a waste.

>>214052411
Hollywood's opinion doesn't matter? The Batman was critically and commercially well recieved. It's a great Batman film the only people who didn't like it were the terminally online snyderfans or retards who thought it was boring

>>214052493
It was a sublime film visually. The script was piss-poor but by virtue of being a REAL movie that is Elseworlds and thus respectable and watchable, I love it. I even gave Joker 2 a pass despite the guard gangrape because it wasn't cinematic universe slop.

>>214052472
I get that everyone wanted something different here, personally I fucking hated man of steel and every other snyderverse film, but look on the brightside, it could always be so much worse.

>>214052541
Yes, it could. We saw as much last month, anon. So much fucking worse. Right now, all I want is for EVERYTHING in DC to crash and burn besides Pattinson's Batman. Scorched earth.

>>214050585 (OP)
>everythings fluid
means Jim has NO IDEA what to do

>>214052413
can't wait honestly

>>214052493
>Hollywood's opinion doesn't matter?
I meant that the Batman is only liked because for the past 15 years most of movies are garbage. if it was released in the 90's (many bad movies, but not as bad) it wouldn't be liked as much

>>214052605
Less than a year to go before shit hits the fan ala post-JL

>>214052439

confirmed he's super box office poison

>>214052609
I think the film's quality stands on its own, doesn't matter what decade it came out

>>214052567
Ya'll gotta stop acting like Superman was bad dude the larp isn't even believable at this point

>>214052722
zoom zoom

>>214052765
Cope

>>214052746
>Y'all
Back to the cotton fields.

>>214052872
The south has whites aswell boy, now get

>>214050585 (OP)
>everything's fluid
Very Jet Neptune esque way to say you have no fucking idea what you're doing but want to act like everything is going to plan

>>214052439
Yes, beloved and famous. Henry Cavill is beloved, and he is famous. That is factual.
Nowhere in that post does it say, "HE'S NEVER HAD A MOVIE THAT BOMBED!" You made up an argument in your head so you could totally own the chuds epic style.
Are you still mad that you couldn't tick all of the boxes, pedo?

>>214050585 (OP)
Translation from S0ispeak:
>I don't have the rights to Batman and only Matt Reeves does and Superman bombed so I'm walking on eggshells and living on borrowed time as head of DC Studios and my last shot is Supergirl which I know will bomb and brutally burst my power trip bubble. DC will be destroyed 10x worse than when I was hired but I will just tug my tail and run off to Marvel.

Zaslav wanted to see what Gunn could do with Superman. Gunn did less than Man of Steel without adjusting for inflation and he made about as much as Superman Returns adjusted for inflation. Gunn has two underperformances with WB now: Suicide Squad and Superman. His future hinges on the performance of Supergirl. If the movie does alright at the box office Gunn will keep his job. If it underperforms like Superman Gunn will be dismissed.
Gunn is not getting Batman until he proves he can draw with other characters. Reeves Batman was Zaslav's hedge against Gunn. That much was obvious to some on this board when Gunn's position at WB was announced.
Pattinson will never be joining the DCU. Some Gunn supporters think Pattinson will help the DCU so they're trying to force him into it by building up hype by spreading rumors.

>>214052997
Every single person IRL I've asked to see that new Superman movie has gone like this:
>Oh, new Superman, that's fun, let's go see it!
>It's not with Cavilll? Who does it star then?
>David Cornsweat? Lol, who is that?
>Eh, nevermind, let's see something else.
KWAB

>>214052439
>using Black Adam's box office gross as an example of Henry being le bad
>Henry has maybe 5 seconds of screen time in Black Adam
How fucking disingenuous lmao
Here's Man of Steel's now.

>>214053019
>His future hinges on the performance of Supergirl.
No one sane of mind thinks that movie won't be a bomb like The Marvels. The "drunken girlboss whore" angle is disastrous in this climate and time. It will be the final nail in the coffin for DC beyond Batman. AT MOST, Gunn is kept as a dead man walking until Batman II does a billion and then he is fired and DCU is cancelled and the studio is dissolved and Safran goes on to run WB as Deadline said.

>>214053036
Yep. I still remember when some cunt tried to cancel Henry for having the audacity to ask that a show about The Witcher be more like The Witcher and the entirety of the internet came to Henry's defense. The she had to apologize.
This false idea that Henry isn't beloved is incredibly recent. As in, in defense of the new Superman *recent*

>>214051614
any idea of that movie being "realistic" died when batman hit that metal ledge from a hundred foot fall and only got a mild tummy ache out of it instead of it killing him

>>214050585 (OP)
No. They should do a Batman with a Robin but do it right this time. Then a Teen Titans movie. Have a Bat family like they did in the Arkham games.

>>214053088
supergirl has given us a lot of hot fanart doebeit

>>214052323
Supergirl is going to make a billion.
>>214050585 (OP)
you are making shit up. Reeves started his Batman before Gunn even took over, it was always separate.
>wow guys Batman, its own separate story from the beginning, is its own separate story!
>somehow this means Superman failed!

>>214053189
Talk about bringing up the most worthless nonsense.

>>214053213
>Supergirl is going to make a billion.
Maybe in Planet Retard's theaters.

I don't think Supergirl will be a bomb, at least because of the Jason Mamoa Lobo.

>>214053189
I want either tomboy Supergirl (The Flash) or dominatrix Supergirl (that CW show)

>>214051929
>>214053088
>>214053019
screencap this retards. based on her best comic, perfect casting, and Momoa as Lobo. 1 billion easily. the best moment in Superman was literally the 30 seconds she was in it.

>>214053231
>>214053298
adding (you) to the screencap. you have no thesis, just an angry loser who wouldn't know a fun time if it crawled up his dick.

>>214050585 (OP)
Gunn is probably seething that Batman mogged his Superman

>>214052997
>"HE'S NEVER HAD A MOVIE THAT BOMBED!"

he literally had like five

>>214051497
>waiting for Reeves to make up his mind
No such thing, you bet Gunn is working behind the scenes to fuck with him, he is well known for doing this, he did on the MCU too. Man is just an egomanical prick that only work with his pals, look at what he did on SS, he even killed Rick Flagg and swapped for Rick Flag Sr. just to have one of his friends in basically the same role. Do you think this kind of guy will let another person direct Batman, even if it's outside his DCU? I think Reeves have his movie read to go and is waiting for Supergirl to flop and Gunn to lose power so he can do whatever he wants without him and Zaslav medling into his movie.

>>214053298
>screencap this retards. based on her best comic, perfect casting, and Momoa as Lobo. 1 billion easily. the best moment in Superman was literally the 30 seconds she was in it.
Do your parents get a lump in their throat when you call them and wish you were killed somewhere?

>>214053526
Let's not forget Gunn spreading rumors Reeves or his wife had cancer or were divorcing for whatever reason. Despicable pedophile scumbag.

>>214053526
you people are insane. he killed Rick Flagg when The Suicide Squad before he took over and anyone had even a thought of a rebooted DCU. He killed Peacemaker in that movie too and had to add a scene after the fact to keep him alive. he's not an evil genius you sperg.

>>214050585 (OP)
Matt Reeves is holding the Batman IP hostage unfortunately.

>>214053634
>unfortunately
Only because anyone else could've done a better dark and gritty Batman, not because of Gunn's Pedoverse. I would love an R-rated Batman by someone like Jeremy Saulnier, for example.

I love the fanfic that Gunn and Reeves are secretly plotting schemes to undermine each other

>>214053048
Snyderverse is dead.
Rebel moon is dead.
Army of the dead is dead.
Netlifx just fired snyder.
it's ogre

Let Reeves keep Bruce and just use Terry McGinnis for your DCU Batman. Who cares if it doesn’t follow the comics. Bruce is boring. Give Terry his shot.

>>214053620
>he's not an evil genius
true, just evil

>>214053708
Only a troon would go to the lengths of defending a pedophile on a bulgarian miak forum.
For free too, I might add.

>>214053620
I can give be on the fence about Flagg, but not about The Batman. He clearly wants to have HIS Batman, and that's pretty standard in Pedowood, everybody wants to ignore the source material and make their own shit, but Gunn is well known for backstabbing people and trying his hardest to only hire his friends. He's a control freak and will never let anybody else shine in the DCU under his wings unless that person credits him for everything.

>>214053782
I have never defended Gunn, furthermore I have called WB retarded many times.
Rajeet, nuances exist. Gunn,Snyder, Zazlav are all equally retarded

>>214053679
No one is saying Gunn and Reeves hate each other (I’m not at least). It is just that both people have different ideas what they want for Batman.


Reeves doesn’t want his Batman universe to be a part of the Gunn Universe. It isn’t meant to be mean. Reeves just wants his Batman saga to be separate from the Gunn DCU. Reeves wants to make a Batman saga to top the Nolan trilogy (his own words).

James Gunn wants his own Batman and to introduce Damian Wayne. He also wants his Batman to be dark.

>>214050585 (OP)
In fairness to Gunn, the Reeves Batman universe is too different from the James Gunn universe. Forcing them to crossover over would be a horrible idea in my opinion. Reeves Batman gets his ass kicked by incels and is a very incompetent detective (needed Penguin to teach him Spanish, couldn’t figure out Riddler didn’t know his secret identity, failed to stop Gotham from being flooded). Batman is too underpowered and useless for the Gunn universe where Giant Kaiju, Green Lanterns, Kryptonian Clones, and Pocket Dimensions exist. Gunn Superman doesn’t even need Reeves Batman when he has Mr Terrific.

>>214053865
why is reeves so retarded? Why make Batman movie, why not just some neo noir non IP flick?
His movie isn't that good. It's not better than TAS or Arkha,

>>214053679
>fanfic
That's Pedowood 101. Reeves wants control over his movie, Gunn wants his own Batman and clearly hates to be overshadowed and yes, if The Batman prooves to be bigger than what Gunn is cooking is not out of the picture Zaslav force him to integrate Battinson in the new DCU even if that makes no sense, it's all about money for the big chaps.

You really think these people will play along with each other? They are no gentlemen, for one to succeed the other needs to go.

>>214053907
I agree but he is determined to make his Batman saga. I wish he would give up and go back to making Planet of the Ape films.

>>214050585 (OP)
The Batman was pretty shit so id be fine with them rebooting it. Not really a fan of James Gunn’s superhero shit but maybe it could work

>>214053019
>Some Gunn supporters think Pattinson will help the DCU so they're trying to force him into it by building up hype by spreading rumors.
Worth repeating. Also if you're seeing a lot of anti Reevesverse lately, this is why.

>>214054042
So pathetic. They know Battinson is the only viable DC property since TDK and they want to defile it.

>>214053782
so tru saar
based snyder only works with IDF soldiers

>>214054061
>>214054042
take your meds, you forgot.

>>214054061
I don't think Battinson was that good or that it will mix well with the new DCU but ANOTHER Batman so soon feels like mistake specially since people reacted pretty well to The Batman. They can make it work, in the comics Batman stories are pretty dark but the tone changes when he is alongside the Justice League, that happens to every hero when they are working as a group.

The other point I don't see people talking is how shitty of an idea is to have Robin, specially Damian, in the new DCU. He will be just like Krypto, stealing the show and being the funny/edgy self-insert for Gunn. Shit at this point you don't even need a real kid, make his brother do a mo-cap for Robin. Next he's gonna do his usual trick of having the whole Bat-family it's a cast made of 30 C-list characters. Throw in some line about Thomas Wayne being a shitty father and how Alfred is the real daddy and here we go, GotG all over again.

>>214053884
The Batman was good but overrated as all hell. IDK why but Reddit in particular worships it i've seen it ranked as #1 or #2 Batman of all time over there.

>>214051370
Don't call them incompetent, that's so antisemitic!

>>214050585 (OP)
Just get it over with and do the bat who laughs saga

>>214054274
>what if Batman was le Joker
So fucking dumb

>>214054205
The motherfucker makes the same goddamn movie down to the most minute detail. God, I hope to fuck some bitch accuses him of grape and he is cancelled/blacklisted for good this time.

>>214050819
>finishing a whole saga of one single character before they can explore the rest of the universe and have crossovers

Yup, the DCU is fucked.

>>214051370
Planning ahead is racist, chud.

>>214054348
Supergirl is already filmed and they're rushing the Superman/Supergirl team-up sequel. That's the whole Saga (for the time being) so it admittedly won't take long to see the results.

>>214054274
>batman but crazy
>also lets turn him into a cosmic eldritch horror abomination
batman powerscalers have done more damage to comics than DBZ powerscalers could even dream of doing

>>214054444
The DCU won't get past Supergirl.

>>214054307
>I hope to fuck some bitch accuses him of grape
I don't think that will happen, not because he's super smart but because he seems the type of guy that is not into the usual pedowood sex exploitation but more into making an running a clique, his private club where only his pals can hang out. But about being a scummy faggot, he tried everything to erase the first writer of GotG (a femake jew, imagine that) from the credits and she had to sue him to have her name in the movie which is insane since she was the one that came with the idea in the first place, without her there would be no GotG. She says that basically everything that made that movie a success like the mixtape, while Gunn denies and says it was his idea. She's also the one who fought to the end to keep Rocket in the team, so imagine that.

Gunn is a fucking hack and this new DCU is doomed just like the last one, this is just Snydershit all over again but with saturated colors.

>>214054444
So the """"plan""""" so far is
>Superman
>Superman
>Superman & Supergirl
Bravo. Bravissimo. I'm crying tears of joy right now.

Why the fuck would you hire Gunn of all people? He makes capetrash for critics, not for audiences, he couldn't even get any of the GOTG movies to make 1 billion while the MCU was at full throttle, and he made that shitty Suicide Squad sequel that was a massive The Marvels tier bomb.

>>214054561
>he couldn't even get any of the GOTG movies to make 1 billion while the MCU was at full throttle
This is true. Joker and Aquaman made a billion despite being all the shit around them.

>>214054561
>Why the fuck would you hire Gunn of all people? He makes capetrash for critics, not for audiences

Because hollywood is retarded and will never learn.

>>214054525
Gunn won't go down without crashing everything around him. This will be 1000x worse than the Snyder/Whedon debacles. I await the shitstorm.

>>214054557
What I meant was
>Superman>Supergirl>Superman & Supergirl
Anyway, they already cancelled some of these projects, changed dates and there is that Lanterns show coming to HBO, that's already shot afaik.

>>214054633
>doesn't even mention the DCU anymore
>it's now "the Superman saga" riffing on Reeves' Batman Saga
you can't make this sort of biblical failure up

So for those who somehow don't know, Superman was Gunn's gambit.
The Batman did too well. The Penguin did remarkably well and was commissioned before Gunn took over. These 2 events prevented Gunn from prematurely killing Reeves' Batverse. BUT he had Superman as his bargaining chip and Zaslav and the board were especially keen on an integrated cinematic universe to mimic the mcu.
If Superman could do giga-numbers, then Gunn would have the backing to absorb/cancel Reeves' film. If it flopped, then the DCU would be dead and they'd be all in on Reeves instead.
As is, Gunn's film performed 'okay'. Honestly it performed shit. But all capeshit is flopping at the moment so relatively it did well. It didn't do as well as The Batman though.
So Gunn gets to keep his DCU but he's absolutely not allowed to interfere with The Batman II which miraculously finally got its script only as this became apparent.

>>214054713
>These 2 events prevented Gunn from prematurely killing Reeves' Batverse
Can you imagine the backlash if he had the (insanity) balls to do this? It'd be like killing the Nolan trilogy right after Iron Man to copy the MCU.
Also, anon, you're being VERY generous.
>keep his DCU
No. He's allowed his own "Superman saga" which is a fancy way of saying he gets to make only Peacemaker and Superman sequels/spinoffs with Supergirl and even THAT is very generous and probably not going to continue past Supergirl.

>>214054671
I don't have all the pics with the many DCU plans they showed so far but they changed their ideas at least five times. They clearly have no plan and have no idea where to go after Superman. They don't have something original for their Batman/Wonder Woman which are the logical sequels and wasting time with minor characters at this point is insane, it's not like Marvel, Iron Man and Thor are interesting, Hawkeye and Black Widow were introduced in other movies, what the DCU have? Martian Manhunter is too daring, Green Lantern public image is toasted after the Ryan Reynolds movie, same for the Flash after Ezra. It's too soon, too fucked. Superman was easier because most people hated Murderman of Steel, but Superman has it's own momentum while the other heroes are just crap in the normie mind.

JUST GOTG MY DC SHIT UP FÁM

>>214054561
I think he's done a great job, regardless of whether the normies pay for it.
The GotG movies are all good. The Suicide Squad sequel was a huge improvement over the first one. Just watched the Peacemaker series which was fun. And I really liked Superman.
He's not afraid to be campy. Slipping Metamorpho and Mr. Terrific into a Superman movie. The Snyderverse took itself too seriously.

Bruh why are the faggot redditors putting Battinson as their banner when nothings been confirmed yet?

Desperately trying to shill this shit when it's clear that Matt Reeves wants nothing to do with this

>>214054713
>So Gunn gets to keep his DCU but he's absolutely not allowed to interfere with The Batman II which miraculously finally got its script only as this became apparent.
The timing said it all. Batman 2 was clearly being held back until the reception for Superman was seen. WB was going to let Pedo Man have Batman aswell if Superman broke the billion. It didn't and now all he gets is a shitty sequel...maybe and Reeves gets to keep Batman.

WB is lost right now.

>>214054831
I could tell you to go and get raped/killed or tell you to go fuck your family but I'm feeling unusually calm right now so I'll just say: Even so, can you at least say that he should be relegated to his own Superman trilogy and not run a DCU or whatever and that there should not exist a DCU.

>I think he's done a great job, regardless of whether the normies pay for it.
What part of this is a "great" job? It's a hack job

>>214054769
>it's all coming back, all coming back to me now...
Not sure why a *comics* property is entrusted to WB, a studio that can't afford a dime to finance an animated film (or serials).

>>214054769
>No. He's allowed his own "Superman saga" which is a fancy way of saying he gets to make only Peacemaker and Superman sequels/spinoffs with Supergirl and even THAT is very generous and probably not going to continue past Supergirl.
Well he's also got Green Lantern in there. They're in preproduction for a Clayface film. And Adria Arjona is heavily rumoured to be the new Wonder Woman.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure Supergirl will flop and kill off the entire thing - and they're scared of this, which is why the only other project he's making at the moment is a low-budget Clayface. But officially, he's got the reigns to the entire DCU (with Batman as an awkward problem)

>>214054854
>it's real
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAH
>>214054865
Pretty much. Gunn is resigned to the fact he was on a massive power trip trying to imitate Feige and is now coming back to reality.

When you already flopped but DC keeps suckin'

>>214054908
>Adria Arjona
Waste of good piece of ass on Gunn slop. Snyder sadly massively miscast Justice League, Diana in particular.

>>214054854
These faggots are so desperate for a win that they are now pretending Reeves is part of their camp. Reeves hates Gunn.

>>214054769
>It'd be like killing the Nolan trilogy right after Iron Man to copy the MCU
That's what they tried to do with Green Lantern, Dark Knight came out in 2008, same year as Iron Man, so in 2011 GL came out trying to copy that MCU formula and it was utter shit. When TDKR was released one year later it cemented the idea that DC movies needed to be darker, giving more freedom for Snyder to make his DCU that goddman grimdark mess.

>>214054908
>which is why the only other project he's making at the moment is a low-budget Clayface

The worst part is that if hipster Gunn didn't focused in projects that no one gives a fuck and made good movies he could have a better project that brings the people's interest but now outside of the Gunn cult everyone thinks this is a mess.

>>214054908
>Lanterns
Even with Guy Gardner appearing, that can easily be reworked into a standalone show barring any other superheroes appearing.
>Clayface
That was a Elseworlds movie Gunn stole from Flanagan and repurposed as a DCU movie to get a piece of the Elseworlds prestige pie because he couldn't get anything else greenlit.
>Wonder Woman
Bulltalk that's not going to result in anything being greenlit just to virtue signal because WW is the ultimate "heckin girl power" character.
His reign over the DCU is on paper, at best. I strongly await for ElseworldsCHADS to be vindicated come July 2026.

>>214054950
>Reeves hates Gunn.

Based but why?

>>214054886
What's not to love about Superman fighting a big monster? And he actually prioritizes protecting everyone and defeating the monster without just killing it which is spot on. People don't call him a boy scout for nothing.
I also think it was good how this monster was just something Lex had in his back pocket as a distraction.

>>214054935
But if she gets cast then we get lots of ai porn of her making out with Milly so it's not all bad

>it's 2015
>WB is killing off standalone DC movies to copy Marvel and crashed and burned
>it's 2025
>>WB is killing off standalone DC movies to copy Marvel and crashed and burned
DC is a flat circle.

>>214050819
This seems like a very dangerous game for James Gunn to be playing
>need Batman for your universe to be a guaranteed success
>Matt doesn’t want to do it unless your universe seems like a better investment than his
>need your universe to succeed to guarantee your universes success
That’s just not a good gamble, unless Gunn is willing to actually use his power and fire Reeves and cancel his trilogy. But that would be a PR nightmare and I doubt he’d dare. With Flanagan and Cregger and what I imagine will soon be every millennial nerd horror director writing scripts for Batman-without-Batman movies, it wouldn’t surprise me if the DCU Batman franchise ends up being an aimless series of SPUMC-tier villain movies set in a deliberately vague time and place. Because if Gunn just waits in the cuck chair for Reeves to finish his trilogy then DCU Batman won’t even be cast until 2031 or 32 at the earliest.
>>214051370
People forget that Gunn wasn’t the first choice for the job. He and Safran were the 2nd choices announced, and presumably far below that in terms of people they approached. Very possibly the directors and writers youdve wanted on DC were asked and they said ‘fuck no.’

>>214054996
Would you not despise a superhero movie making Reddit s0iboy pedophile pretending he's your peer when you're an accomplished, awarded and respected filmmaker?

>>214054995
The point is that he has a 'universe' and is clearly allowed to use any characters that he wants without restraint (outside of Batman). So it's fair to call it DCU at the moment.

Batman is not needed yet. WB just fast tracked a WW movie. Gunn has said he is only give a character one movie before being teamed up. So after that movie it will likely lead into a Trinity or World’s Finest. So have to decide to either incorporate Pattinson or get a new Batman

>>214055049
>With Flanagan and Cregger and what I imagine will soon be every millennial nerd horror director writing scripts for Batman-without-Batman movies
Even Joker 2 didn't kill this genre of film. EVERYONE would want to do Batman. Everyone. Or something Batman-adjacent. It's the only surefire thing WB has going for it. Can any and all DC projects that aren't Batman. just own up to the fact only Batman matters.

>>214055005
It was garbage as fuck. Superman didn't even do anything. His le wacky GoTG friends did everything for him.

>>214054996
If I remember right, it leaked that Reeves was offered the job before Gunn and declined.

>>214055028
>It’s 2006
>A Superman movie has just underperformed at the box office. There are talks of a crossover with Batman in a sequel.
>It’s 2013
>A Superman movie has just underperformed at the box office. There are talks of a crossover with Batman in a sequel.
>It’s 2025
>A Superman movie has just underperformed at the box office. There are talks of a crossover with Batman in a sequel.

>>214055068
>WB just fast tracked a WW movie
That movie is not happening. It was a pathetic attempt by Gunn to dupe fans by giving them WW in the place of Batman which is retarded and insane.
>>214055053
He has a small corner of a universe, which is just Peacemaker and Superman. IT'S OVER.

>>214055068
>Gunn said
Gunn says a lot of lies and stupid shit.

>>214051028
Pattinson won't do it without Matt Reeves

>>214055104
Fucking hell. I just don't like DC no more. Being a DC fan is even worse than being a battered housewife.

>>214055133
Pattinson wouldn't do it, period. You think a guy starring in Venice/Cannes movies is going to work with James Gunn? Yeah, right. He only agreed to Batman because it was a prestige Elseworlds standalone with full freedom.

>>214055068
Honestly, I predict that Gunn will cast his own Batman (IF Supergirl isn't a horrendous flop, big if).
To think about it logically, the way to get around the problem is to do something different. So rather than The Batman Part 2 coming out, and then The Brave and the Bold or whatever coming out a year later with a different actor, he does something like make that film about a Joker henchman instead. Then he can introduce his Batman as a side character who's not Pattinson. He can continue this with a Harley Quinn film where Batman shows up in the background again. A Batgirl film, a Catwoman film etc etc
That way they have their Batman for the universe without directly stepping on Reeves' toes. And Pattinson will be done after his trilogy anyway so they only have to wait it out for like 10 years (lmao)

>>214055109

>A Warner Bros. CEO just gave fans the biggest hint yet as to where James Gunn's DC Universe is headed after the release of Clayface. A new Wonder Woman movie seems to be a priority for the company.

Zaslov is the one fast tracking a WW movie not Gunn. Gunn was going to do WW series but WB wants a movie. It’s now common knowledge Gunn would prefer to focus on side characters but WB wants him focused on the main ones

>>214055090
Superman contained the damage and saved people's lives while trying to find a way to get it out of the city safely.
That's exactly how Superman should be. He could probably just laser all his enemies to death, but that's not his style.

>>214055255
I just don't see it happening. Seems like some puff talk for trades.
>>214055192
That's what Cregger wants to do. If he's smart, he'll make that movie but as an Elseworlds. Cast one of those fan-film actors as Batman in a short scene.

>>214055289
No, that's extremely faggot ass way to go about it. Solve the problem, not the consequences of the problem. He was a major faggot during that fight who did nothing but save squirrels like a retard.

>>214055289
>He could probably just laser all his enemies to death, but that's not his style.
?????

>>214055289
>He could probably just laser all his enemies to death
That's....that's what he did. But the movie pretended them being lasered in super-speed just knocked them out instead of eviscerating them brutally. Please neck yourself. Superman would not be friends with heroes who kill and would berate them and try to imprison them for killing the Kaiju instead of going "ahhh, shucks!"

Starlordman saves squirrels but has no issues killing his clone and countless amount of henchmen. Also he has no issues letting the family super dog violate people.

>>214055350
>Starlord man listens to inner city pop rock despite growing up in Kansas where he'd be a true white Christian young man who'd love country rock like Morgan Wallen but Gunn despises white people and Christianity.

>>214054287
So fucking awesome you mean

>>214055311
>That's what Cregger wants to do. If he's smart, he'll make that movie but as an Elseworlds. Cast one of those fan-film actors as Batman in a short scene.
There's no reason not do do it in-universe. Otherwise they've got yet another Batman film unconnected to anything. And if it's successful, then they don't get to reap the rewards. Also, Cregger's on a role at the moment so it's a very strong chance of introducing their Batman in a popular film.
Also, it lets Gunn cast a meme actor like Jensen Ackles as Batman to gauge public opinion. He can then easily recast if audiences don't like him without it affecting much.

>>214055192
I don’t think he’s even going to have a movie to introduce his Batman. He’s stated Batman and Superman already know each other. Likely the new Wonder Woman will know them as well and probably have Superman cameo in the movie or post credit.

>>214055326
>>214055338
That's a good point. Counterpoint, I didn't like that scene. It was too reckless for Superman. But in fairness, they were armored, he didn't kill anyone, and he was on a pretty tight deadline.
When he was fighting the big monster he had all the time in the world.

>>214055389
Gunn doesn't have a critically and commercially successful movie like Cregger that actually made profit. He has no reason to play ball with Gunn. WB will beg him to do it so he stays in-house after he finishes RE and will greenlight it, Gunn be damned. Cregger will demand it's an Elseworlds movie, nothing else. I have no doubt it will get made and released by 2028. Also, I hope he gets this guy as the Joker and Mia Goth as Harley Quinn.

>>214055432
>But in fairness, they were armored, he didn't kill anyone, and he was on a pretty tight deadline.
Do soibois unironically fall for this dishonest level of filmmaking?

>>214055088
Joker 2 only killed the gritty realistic villain reimagining, there’s still plenty of villain stories that can be told. But in the span of 6 months we’ve seen 1 script based off a BTAS episode get greenlit and heard rhat another script that sounds an awful lot like a BTAS episode is being written. How many other scripts like this are being written- like you said, everyone wants to do Batman. There’s probably going to be some really good ones too- you can’t greenlight all of them, no matter how creator driven you claim your studio is run. You also can’t mandate that all of them keep their Bateman as obscure as possible.
I will greatly admire Gunn if he just casts a Batman and puts him in Clayface or Superman 2, but I highly doubt he will.

>>214055432
But you don't call bullshit on the fact he lasered them that violently and fast and they didn't all die brutally? Also, check his bloodlusting expression after the fact even though they're harmless goons to him and he tried to appeal to Engineer/Ultraman before. So fucking wrong.

>>214055311
Are some type of idiot? You don’t see a studio wanting their A list characters back on the screen? It’s obvious they want a big team up with the three since big team up event movies are the only capeshit movies that can make a billion now

>>214055417
This is what Zack should have done and I never understood why he didn't. Just show us batman in his lair with the giant penny in the background and the dinosaur and all the weird shit. Show us batman already batman in his batman prime. Show us the batmobile and the batplane and ace the bat hound and robin and night wing and bat girl and alfred and have their joker already joking it up. Just get to it.

>>214055104
The difference is that WB are retarded and didn't know how good they had it in 2013.

>>214055372
You have no idea what you're talking about.
I live in Kansas by the way.

>>214055417
>He’s stated Batman and Superman already know each other.
Really?
That wasn't in the film though was it? Gunn changes his mind about everything. It feels like he'd be leaving way too much money on the table to do a repeat of the DCEU and introduce Batman in a team-up film.

>>214055454
Joker 2 didn't kill anything hence why Clayface was greenlit (as an Elseworlds Joker clone, not a DCU entry as Gunn lied about) because, Joker 2 may have bombed, but that was because of its huge budget. If it had the original film's budget, it'd be a success. Low-budget, R-rated, prestige DC movies are still a sure thing at WB if someone pitches them. THAT is the future and what WB will pivot to in the coming years. They want to poach talent like Cregger and be known as the studio that lets these guys loose for maximum profit and industry cred. Gunn will be gone by 2027. Gunn will not dare to put Batman in anything but animated crap.

>>214055473
>Are some type of idiot?
SAAR PLEASE DONT INSULT MR. JAMES GUNN SIR PLEASE STOP I BEG TO YOU SAAR
>>214055510
>t. trans btw

>>214055466
>that violently and fast and they didn't all die brutally?
Like I said I didn't like that scene. But Superman can control the strength of his lasers to be less deadly and these were Luthor's soldiers. Which means the armor was probably designed specifically against Superman. I can give it a half-pass on these grounds.
The part that bothered me more about that scene is that he could cause collateral damage spinning while lasering like that. It's reckless.

>>214055170
When he agreed to play Batman it was 2018 and the movie was still a prequel to Batfleck lmao.

>>214055511
Gunn been pretty clear he is not interested in redoing origins or wasting time on that shit. He isn’t going to waste an entire move on Superman and Batman finding each other out since they already done that in BvS and nobody wants to see that shit again

>>214055487
Batman V Superman was supposed to be MoS 2. WB changed their minds at the last minute and forced Snyder and Terrio to go with it, using Goyer's retarded script from a decade prior.
They had such little time that they just went with it. Terrio thought the script was shit and fixed it into something mostly generic, adding in all the post-911 analogies. Snyder thought it was too dark and retarded and fought to have it end with Batman no longer branding criminals, adding in the religious angles. The film is the definition of a fluke.
Affleck wrote a script that was considered to be fantastic, where his established Batman fought against Deathstroke but Geoff Johns killed it with his ego.

When Cregger gets the greenlight for his Elseworlds movie, he will definitely cast Julia Garner as Harley.
>>214055583
No, it wasn't. Him being cast was the sign of a full-on reboot. Stop spreading nonsense.
>>214055576
As bad as that was, the "YOU HURT MY HECKIN FEELINGS" speech is indefensible.

>>214055591
When I say "introduced", I don't mean an origin story, I just mean their first appearance. Just like Superman was introduced with his own film, Gunn would be retarded (financially, not just artistically) not to have a low-stakes film that introduces Batman before any sort of team-up film.
>since they already done that in BvS and nobody wants to see that shit again
Half the scenes from his Superman film were already done in MoS or BvS so I wouldn't trust his word on that

>>214053088
Even Gunn knows it's not gonna do well based on the audience reaction to her in Superman. That's why he's having his shills push Lobo so hard.
>actually it's a lobo movie guys
It's also why he's pumping his "Superman Saga" and teasing Brainiac despite zero setup for Brainiac and zero mention of the saga in the DCU slate before Superman's box office run.
Anyone who is not a Gunn fan knows that abruptly changing the DCU slate is a sign things are going poorly for Gunn.

>>214051028
Base it on the 1970s and 1980s blue suit issues. Not "realistic", but not campy either. Add some gothic horror. Keep away from the pseudo-realistic shit Nolan and Reeves had.

>>214055598
That makes sense, I always thought it bizarre that of all the aesthetics to sideline, Zach could've done a comic style Gothic flashy batman the best.

>>214055649
Also, casting low-rank nobodies from TV shows as big characters like Superman/Supergirl is also a retarded move. David Cornsweat and Milly Allcocks will never be anything but F-listers. Retarded casting mentality. It's over, that much has been made clear over and over. 2027 is when it will go down. Batman II does a billion after Supergirl and Clayface bomb.

>>214055598
>Affleck wrote a script that was considered to be fantastic, where his established Batman fought against Deathstroke but Geoff Johns killed it with his ego
Please don't remind me of this. I'm still reeling from it. I rate Jay Oliva very highly and he wouldn't say it's the best Batman script ever unless he was being honest to God.

>rugpulling shared universe with existing popular Batman right after the Superman movie underperforms
It's literally MoS all over again

>>214055760
i wish i never got into DC
worst fucking thing to be a fan of bar none

>>214051716
>There are two Flashes, one of them was in a movie with three Batmen

And how did that turn out

>>214055620
>Julia Garner as Harley

>>214055643
It would he dumb to put out another reboot Batman movie after The Batman 2. It would bomb. Everyone knows what Batman is about and is not needed. It will be like when they introduced Holland’s Spider Man in Civil War

they should just do an adaption of the black glove story. it has the whole secret island/secret organisation epstein vibe that would clean up with today's audience.

>>214055808
I will kneel to Cregger if he casts Jack's son as Joker in his Henchman movie.

>>214055797
That wasn’t why the movie bombed. Ezra and people boycotting the movie because of Ezra is why

I like both Snyder and Gunn but I think Superman is really, really boring. I didnt like MoS or Superman and I think giving Supergirl a movie is a retarded idea. I mean if it was a 50M smaller scale movie then I'd get it and it, but most capeshit is flopping nowadays, how can you have Supergirl as the second tentpole in your universe? Makes no sense. I know the Batman situation is tricky but use Wonder Woman or Aquaman at least.

>>214055583
No it wasn't. When Affleck departed Reeves got the green light to do his own thing. Pattinson signed on in part because he wouldn't have to cameo in 30 different projects as part of an extended cinematic universe. That's why he never shows up in the Penguin show.
According to an interview with the Penguin showrunners Reeves didn't say a word to Pattinson about making an appearance; most likely because he know Pattinson would sharply decline.

>>214055824
That's why I think it would be smart to do something different, like Cregger's Joker henchman film. That way it feels like less of a Batman film and instead just a film featuring Batman in the background. And then they can introduce their Batman prior to their team-up shit

>>214055649
I thought Supergirl was good. Her portrayal as an immature teenager who fucks off to space to party is accurate.
She wasn't raised on Earth with good parenting like Clark was.

>>214050640
I seriously can't comprehend why Gunn hired this dude for Batman before the Flash even released, even more so why is he keeping him after that megaflop.

>>214055875
I still think they should have had a stuntman in Pattinson's suit show up very briefly (not saying anything, just fighting) to remind us how much fear he incites in these criminals and what a difference his presence has made

>>214055682
Exactly! To cast a cross-eyed actor as Superman and not bother fixing it in the film or the promo stills shows the lack of care Gunn has for the DCU.
Also I think Gunn is out in 26 after Supergirl flops but perhaps I overestimate Zaslav.

>>214055875
>So eventually you *do* plan to have Batman in this show based off the Batman movies? Uh, hello?

>>214056029
>Also I think Gunn is out in 26 after Supergirl flops but perhaps I overestimate Zaslav.
He's definitely finished if Supergirl bombs, which it will, but Batman II will have to do huge numbers (800-m/1 bil) for him to be fired officially and quickly.

>>214055897
I think it's wrong to omit Batman from Batman villain stories but it has worked 2 out of 3 times so what do I know.

>>214051541
>>214055049
Blame Hamada, it’s that retarded hack’s fault why the DCU is in such a hard position in the first place. He’s the reason why Affleck had to leave the Batman project to begin with. Put aside your feelings on the snyderverse for a moment, Hamada carelessly greenlighting a Batman trilogy in the middle of everybody struggling what to do with the DC movies is a fucking moronic idea. I don’t think Gunn is as pissed about the lack of Batman as Zaslav though. Zaslav is probably way more pissed about it than Gunn because of the gap in movies between The Batman part 1 and 2 along with not being able to use him.

>>214055927
people like you are everything wrong with modenr cinema audiences

>>214056212
>Batman II is still 2 years out
Jesus, this is obscene. Talk about destroying any and all momentum the first movie made. Might as well cancel it now to be fair.

>>214056738
>ah geez guys this is so heckin unwholesome! i will still be friends with you guys even after brutally murdering this creature
Zoomerman everybody..

>>214056212
This. Regardless of the overall quality of the film itself, the context alone makes greenlighting it an insane decision.

You have an A-list actor who's also an extremely well-respected director who's already playing Batman and wants to make a solo movie, so you....jerk him around for years, relegate Batman to a supporting character in your cinematic universe but then greenlight a solo movie for a different Batman that has nothing to do with any of it while still making the DCEU movies with Batman in them. Fucking why?

I'm convinced Hamada was fucking with Snyder as far back as BVS and Affleck probably told him he didn't know what he was talking about and to stfu at some point. It feels like a decision made out of spite rather than any form of logic.

>oh yeah, well fuck you
>I'm giving your movie to Pattinson
>yeah, how do you like that

>>214055875
What about the copyright thing? In Gotham there was never a shot of Bruce wearing the costume because DC/WB doesn't have the rights a TV live-action Batman, they let them do one brief shot in the last scene of the show as a courtesy but that's it. Does WB have the rights to make a TV show with Batman now?

I think WB is foolish to have a WW movie with Supergirl. If Supergirl ends up being a success it’s going to take a lot of shine off WW. And if you already got a super powered woman more powerful than WW, what is the point?

>>214051370
>incompetent
I dunno. It seems like a fairly competent scam. A good way to fleece your company and get your buddies millions of dollars.

>>214057233
>DC/WB doesn't have the rights a TV live-action Batman

THEN DON'T MAKE A SHOW ABOUT BATMAN CHARACTERS SET IN GOTHAM CITY

>>214051370
Cause they only think in numbers no further than a month or too in the future while being scared shitless to take responsibility for something. So they hire consultants who do make sense, in the context of short term thinking and pure numbers who can be blamed if something goes wrong who in turn can blame the numbers.
It's all a game of avoiding responsibility if something goes wrong.

>>214055708
Jay Oliva directed the Dark Knight Returns animated movies and several other highly rated DC animated movies.

>>214050585 (OP)
Who's left to play batman anyway?

>>214051370
Because it's men and mostly white men that are the good writers and they hiring them less and less. Letting any woman in the writing room was a mistake because they're just contentious against males in general.

>>214052997
Will he check those boxes gunnsisters?
You tild me it would reach 1b

>>214055897
>I thought Supergirl was good. Her portrayal as an immature teenager who fucks off to space to party is accurate.
Accurate to what?

>>214057233
Gotham was made by WB when 20th Century owned the live action rights. Now WB owns the live action rights.
Pattinson wasn't in Penguin because he didn't want to be. There were no legal reasons for keeping Batman out of the show.

Last post of suicider.

>>214054886
Poor man's King Caesar by wat of Stitch.

>>214057594
> Accurate to what?

“Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow” which is what the movie will be based off of

>>214056238
How are producers okay with these insane gaps between releases? It's the same with tv shows these days. Sequels used to come out on a consistent annual schedule, but now series will just randomly take a 3 year gap in between seasons, and movies will go 5+ years between sequels, so nobody gives a fuck anymore by the time it's released. Reeves should have had the first draft of the script done within a few months of the first film's release. What are they doing all day?

>>214057594
Accurate to one of the countless versions of Supergirl. Just like female surfer is accurate to one comic. That's the problem with "comic accurate." There's so many comics that virtually anything you want is comic accurate. Imagine if they made a live action Spider-Ham. Well it's comic accurate. Don't get me wrong. It'd be fucking hilarious. But we all know that's not what people think of when we think of Spiderman.

>>214057685
>>214057701
The anon already answered. Tom King shitty ass comic.

>>214055652
This

>>214057612
Based

>>214050719
THIS. The Batman exists in a universe that doesn’t fit with the world of Superman 2025.

Punkrocker bros.......

>>214055649
>Even Gunn knows it's not gonna do well based on the audience reaction to her in Superman. That's why he's having his shills push Lobo so hard.
>>actually it's a lobo movie guys
>It's also why he's pumping his "Superman Saga" and teasing Brainiac despite zero setup for Brainiac and zero mention of the saga in the DCU slate before Superman's box office run.
>Anyone who is not a Gunn fan knows that abruptly changing the DCU slate is a sign things are going poorly for Gunn.

as usual you're just making up your personal fan fiction and trying to give it a reason.
it's poor and it doesn't work that way.

anyway superman 2025 is far better movie than the clipshow murderman of steel and that's the only fact that matters.

>>214050585 (OP)
Pattinson and Farrell kino can't mesh with Gunn's Marvel movie.

>>214057609
Nice to know. Batman would work pretty well as TV show, something like True Detective since he has so many villains and a whole city to protect. A 2 hour movie can't really tell a decent Batman story imo.

>>214050585 (OP)
Unironically, Will Poulter should be the Gunnpoint Universe Batman. I saw Death of a Unicorn last night (sucks) and he gave young Michael Keaton vibes to the point where it would be dumb not to cast him.

>>214059617
I don't know why they keep hiring this ugly fucker. Barry Keoghan too, jfc I don't wanna pay to watch man and woman made horrors that doctors should let die

>>214059300
It's one (or two) very butthurt Snyderjeet mad that the DCEU is dead and buried and it's trying to cope with fanfics.

>>214059606
I agree. I think comics are far easier to adapt into live action shows than they are into movies. A gritty live action Batman show would be extremely popular. We haven't had a live action Batman show with Batman since the 60s! WB has no excuse now. Instead we're getting Lanterns!. I hope the Lantern fans out there enjoy it but man how cool would a live action Batman show be. We got a Pennyworth live action show before another Batman live action show. Warner Brothers really are their own worst enemies.

>>214050585 (OP)
The DCI is absolutely fucked, probably the worst shape it's ever been in. Hiring this absolute hack and allowing him to produce shit like Superman and Peacemaker is going to be a very expensive mistake.

>>214057612
>shill thinks it can round up
>>214052997
>>214053048
>>214055498
kek

>>214057594
In any version of Supergirl she grew up as a full blown Kryptonian and ended up on Earth. Clark was basically raised human, but Kara is pure alien. She's at home on spaceships and sees humanity as primitive.

>>214061175
This. Supergirl always struggled because nobody wants her to be just Superman with tits. She either has to her own character or no there is point even having her. Contest between her and Superman will be interesting

>>214055652
i'd love to see some pulpy gothic dark batman, i feel we haven't had anything like it since Keaton

>>214061175
Imagine if Supergirl had a strange unplaceable accent because english is her second language.

>>214051614
Yeah shit was dumb. No idea why they turned him into iron man and not a ninja.

ITT: retarded clueless faggots arguing about imaginary numbers made-up by Jews for money laundering purposes

How many more decades do you think it will take before capeshitters (Hollywood and /tv/) stop feeling entitled to a five year plan or ten year cinematic universe every time there's a pretty good movie?
Gunn is going to fail regardless of what he does and so will the guy after him and the same story at Marvel. Normal people don't want to pay to see these fucking ads.

>>214050585 (OP)

I thought Gunn wanted to use Damian as Robin, Batman would have be old enough to have been Batman long enough to have tangled with the League of Shadows, hook up with Talia, then Talia gives birth to Damian and then Damian grows up enough to come to Gotham.

The Reeves Batman is in like year 2.

>>214065468
said batman would also need to have gone through 3 robins.

>>214050585 (OP)
When James Gunn just admit he using Robert Patterson as the DCU Batman while he still Batman in Matt Reeves universe? DCU already recasting actors as different character. Hell the most accurate peacemaker season 2 leaks points to a cameo by the penguin.