Thread 214079168

if the ghosts aren’t real in The Shining, who the fuck let Jack out of the storage pantry?

>>214079168 (OP)
The ghosts are real, thoughever.

>>214079168 (OP)
Kubrick forgot (unironic answer)

>>214079209
after jack drank the bourbon from lyod, he becomes very hostile and murderous towards his family. i feel the drink was a forbidden fruit given to jack in order to make him choose to side the hotel or his family. after that, the hotel starts doing stuff for jack, but only after he strikes the bargin.

>>214079168 (OP)
Bigger Luke

>>214079168 (OP)
Leave your phone alone when you watch a movie.

>>214079168 (OP)
danny because he knew his father would die in the maze

>>214079489
so danny a serial killer and didn’t want his dad to get mental help? did he know the cook would die?

>>214079489
I thought the theory was that Danny was the one giving him blowjobs?

>>214079418
Wow, cool fucking meme, retard. LUKE WASN'T IN THE SHINING, IT WAS BIGGER JACK.

>>214079168 (OP)
Pretty sure Kubrick said up until that point the audience could dismiss the supernatural elements as hallucinations, but ghosts being real is the only thing that makes sense after this

>>214079872
dilbert also told him about the cook coming. you could say the cook just happened to think something was wrong, byt the odds are one in a billion

>>214080102
No Danny shined to alert him.
>Your son is trying to bring in van outside party

>>214080204
yea so there was supernatural before the pantry scene considering he took a plane from Miami there. and dilbert’s warning made hack ready for him.

The ghosts were real, it's always better when they're real

>>214079168 (OP)

Jack wasn't real either as is shown in the picture at the end he is haunting the overlook.

You guys can just read the book, btw. literally every question in this thread is answered in there. you get to read about cum dripping out of wendy as well as a little treat

>>214080979
The book rules.
Steve was really struggling with substance abuse and writes some relatable things.

>>214079168 (OP)
The ghosts WERE real. Even Wendy and Danny see them.

>>214079343
>choose to side the hotel or his family
And what do those two concepts represent?

>>214080979
>You guys can just read the book, btw

if the ghosts arent real then the shine isnt real and we see that the shine is real so therefore the ghosts are real

>>214081151
Getting filtered by the fucking shining is the most ESL thing I've ever heard. most people read it when they're a teenager

>>214081025
he must have really been struggling to have written the same "writer goes into isolation then goes insaaaaane" story like 15 different times

>>214081109
Blackjack and Hookers
"The house", blackjack, get it?
Hookers, the woman?
HELLO-O! ANYONE AT HOME?

>>214081387
>hurfdurf muh ESL out of nowhere
Protip: King's books were translated in many, many languages. Not reading books is not an ESL thing, it's a muttmerican retard thing.

>>214081547
yeah, and how many of those are ESL? I obviously hit a nerve

>>214079168 (OP)
Well if they're not supposed to be real I can only assume he was being schizo and was never trapped in the first place.

skull face, they explain it in doctor sleep

>>214080979
Adaptations don't have to conform to the source material. I think these questions are asinine, but still.

>>214080979
the adaption doesn’t follow the book 100%. the book was also mediocre compared to the film.

>>214079168 (OP)
he lets himself out.

grady was allegedly the previous caretaker, but grady tells him that he has always been the caretaker.
i believe that hotel had people dying there, but them now interacting are the manifestation of the peoples shining. and that being said, both danny and jack have it. which also suggest exactly this >>214079489

jack is foretelling the future, just like danny, he cuts off the snow cats cables before he tells wendy she is in for a surprise if she tries to run away.
same in the maze, he follows danny to a t, only until danny outsmarts him.
or when he goes after wendy knowing exactly where she is hiding in the bathroom. The timing of jack going behind his family is noteable.

>>214079529
jack violating danny is an going theme too. you have the reincarnation of evil and its symbols like the bear (when danny is resting on one at the doctors visit), that spans over generation.
the shining is what light does, it permeates, gives off echoes, communication through time and space, meaning it also changes reality.

>>214079343
He said he’d sell his soul for a drink
>ghost bartender makes him a drink
He has no money, shit
>ghost bartender says no worries, have this drink

Hello captain obvious

>>214081387
>>214081547
I like reading and it's a decent book. I just thought that anon was trying to be too smug. Kubrick didn't give a fuck about what the book says, your interpretation should be based on the film.

>>214084411
I just wanted to bring up the wendy creampie to be desu.

Jack is a drunk closeted faggot who rapes his son and refuses to admit it ("he did this to himself!" + the absolute disgust when kissing the girl from room 237)
Danny has an identity disorder because of the rapes ("Tony lives in my mouth then hides in my stomach")
Wendy is completely crazy too

Danny let Jack out, the maze scene that's not part of the book is a simple adaptation of the maze fight between Theseus and the Minotaur.
Kubrick took the book and turned it into a cabin fever + alcohol, family traumas and sexual abuse story. He even admitted to not even trying to follow the book.

The bear scene turning into short and uncomfortable gay blowjob is there for a reason.