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Oh Yeah It's Freighting Time edition

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What is the next best trek series besides TNG as ive seen most of TNG??

star trek sex with shran

>>214212205 (OP)
MY FUREIGHTIN HERO!

>>214212234
Well the Jem'Hadar would have destroyed the Defiant, killing everyone aboard just as Garak said, but by then the Founder planet would have already been nuked.
Something I've wondered; would the Jem'Hadar have sought revenge or would they all commit suicide for having failed their gods?

T'was the dark side of the moon
On the sixth of June
In a freighter, pullin' ore
Cabover Pete with an Orion whore
And a Jimmy haulin' gel
We was headin' for hell
In sector 3-6-1-7
'Bout a light year from Fair Haven
I says, Pig Pen this here's the Rubber Duck
And I'm about to put the hammer down

[Chorus]
'Cause we got a little 'ole convoy
Rockin' through the dark
Yeah, we got a little 'ole convoy
Chewin' space up like a shark
C'mon and join our Convoy
'Cause the void is anarchy
We gonna warp this freightin' convoy
'Cross the galaxy
Convoy
Convoy

>>214212380
Gayrak's plan would have failed, it's not as if the Dominion would leave the Founders undefended.

>>214212380
They admit they don't know how to make ketracel white multiple times. They are just super soldiers dependent on drugs they don't control.

>>214212616
Of course some changelings would be off-world pretending to be different world leaders but nuking the great link would certainly destabilize the Dominion enough for any Alpha quadrant power to go after the Gamma quadrant.

>>214212205 (OP)
It's time to admit that Enterprise was the greatest Star Trek series ever produced. No bullshit, no "PC", just solid storytelling

>>214212205 (OP)
So what's this young chap's background anyway? He seems a pleasant enough lad, I don't think he ever opened up about his past though.

>>214212205 (OP)
FREIGHTERS WITH SHRAN!

Why would you even sign up for work on a freighter when Starfleet exists?

>>214212801
Starfleet became a thing within Travis's lifetime, his parents didn't have the option.

>>214212801
they literally bring this up in the show. his freighter family is salty about their way of life dying out because everyone would rather be in Starfleet than on a freighter. there's this feeling that Travis betrayed them

>>214212801
Why do you think they celebrate a Hindu festival in TNG? Someone has to swide-swipe three ships at warp in the middle of a trade convoy.

>>214212712
wouldn't Vorta know how to make it?

>>214212929
definitely. good luck getting them to admit it though.

>>214212907
Please dont talk about Bashir's parents like that.

>>214212984
Bashir's parents of course not. His cousins that want to utilize eugenics? Get em out.

>>214212232
>seen most of TNG
why don't you see all of it? In any case, finish TNG and go on to Deep Space Nine, can't really go wrong with that

>>214212907
>swide-swipe three ships at warp in the middle of a trade convoy
>find out they were Klingon ships

>>214212750
kek no. It had immense potential, we could have gone back to the wild west feel, with danger in every episode and early space travel, we could have seen things like the birth of the UFP, or earlier with the first contact with Vulcans, pretty much endless possibility but instead Faggon Faga just made it the same old reheated TNG shit that that VOY was just with an industrial paint job and jumpsuits. Easily the Trek show that made the least of its premise. It dropped all attempts at its premise after a few episodes of season 1 and might as well have taken place in the TNG era after that.

>>214213123
the characters were all fucking weaksauce too.

>>214213123
POLARIZE THE HULL PLATING

>>214212984
great picture.

>>214213123
DS9 being the only series to not introduce Borgslop is probably the biggest sign it was its own thing.

>>214213309
The Borg was always supposed to be a reflection of the Federation. For DS9 they used the Dominion as the mirror

>>214213123
personally I want to know the behind the scenes reasons and logic behind the embarrassing hateboner for Vulcans. were they just THAT desperate and lazy trying to come up with some kind of conflict or did one of the producers actually hate Vulcans or both?

>>214212380
Watchu talkin' 'bout Jem'hadar, huh?

>>214213408
*sigh* *unzips*

>>214213408
Damn bitch lay off the ketracel white

>>214212390
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZbuWTzf2mIZ94h_RLv8j7PhaQZwQtIt
Standout track: https://youtu.be/FH8lvwXx_Y8

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZbuWTzf2mJRhrSLMS7Pm2pF8FDZkSXh
Standout track: https://youtu.be/CNygmubVW3s

Special mention: https://youtu.be/C1oF2C7iN_A

>>214213355
I hated that too. Just a complete misunderstanding of Vulcans, it was like someone wrote them based on Seth McFarlane cutaway gags. They seemed to think that Vulcans were actually emotionally aloof bastards, when TOS>Movies>Sarek ep in TNG always made it clear that was just a cope for them, because their race has overly explosive emotions and attachments they need to control.

It was like they tried to do what they did for Klingons in TNG and DS9 but it just didn't work because they actually showed the based side of Klingons in those like with Kurn and Martok.

>>214213936
But there were based Vulcans in Enterprise like the fat ambassador lady and even Soval was a bro the whole time

>>214214001
it doesn't matter if there were one or two """based""" Vulcans in the show the point is they don't act like FUCKING Vulcans. in the VERY FIRST FUCKING EPISODE Soval is having a chimp out.

>>214213169
You’re fucking weaksauce brownskin

>>214212801
Not everyone can get into Starfleet, nigga. Starfleet is not just the military when you can "sign up". First you need to go to Starfleet Academy which is hard to get into even for smart faggots like Wesley. Then you gotta graduate and so on. Its not for everyone. Retard idiots can get jobs under the Federation banner and these are faggots like janitors or cuck ship builders.

>>214214173
weaksauce brownskin is my native american tribal name

>>214214173
sorry but as great as Shran is even he ultimately suffered from having weak boring main cast and captain to play off of and didn't reach his full potential. my actual favorite Shran thing was in that episode with Tarah being all uppity and doubting peace and him having to deal with her. that was some good little drama. a shame they got rid of that character and replaced her with this boringer bitch who just dies.

>>214214192
AKOOCHEEMOYA WE ARE FAR AWAY FROM THE SLOT MACHINES OF OUR ANCESTORS

>>214213123
>Easily the Trek show that made the least of its premise.
That is easily VOY.

>>214214411
Yeah, I think ENT is mediocre to meh tier but VOY literally drops its premise the very episode after the pilot, like the first one

>>214212232
TNG isn’t even the best trek
Go watch TOS

>>214214190
>Starfleet is not just the military when you can "sign up".

We saw with Nog that it kind of is. Wesley aced the smarts part of the exam. He failed the psych eval and didn't get admitted because he's emotionally unstable due to his daddy dying and can't be relied upon in a high stress situation.

>>214214499
Nog needed a recommendation from Sisko to get into Starfleet.

>>214214555
thats because nog wasn't a federation citizen, any citizen could apply without a recommendation, doesn't mean you're getting in

>>214214499
>>214214555
He needed a recommendation from a command level officer to even be eligible to TAKE the entrance exam

>>214214638
see >>214214630

this episode is fucking garbage

>>214214770
i like how even without his eyes you can see Geordi's skeptical expression

>>214214555
He needed a character reference because he's not a registered citizen. If references were good for Fed citizens then Wesley had the best referral possible in the entirety of the fleet (who, at that time before getting LOCUTUS'D was in far better standing than Sisko ever was), but it did nothing for him. Picard also failed his first attempt despite being incredibly driven, but that's implied to be more because he was kind of brash, cocky and thuggish when he was a young man, and he nearly got kicked out of the academy when he was in it.

IMO the academy is set up like a standard police / army entrance process, the fitness and academic sections of the testing aren't extremely rigorous (we see that with Troi basically being completely clueless about all that stuff), you can get in if you're just not a complete fucking retard and have common sense, but they have zero tolerance for any kind of mental instability and just refuse you no matter how good you are in other fields if they think you will crack or chimp out under pressure.

>>214214913
>He needed a character reference because he's not a registered citizen.
This sounds stupid. In higher education having a reference is standard fucking procedure. You can't just be some psychotic rando and automatically be considered. You need a SOMEONE with some kind of clout to vouch for your character.

>>214215055
well if your a federation citizen you aren't some rando, they have your education history, work history, they can interview family and friends etc

>>214214770
There are a lot of great things about it.

The dialogue between characters, the sets, the acting, and just the general concept of doing Holmes on a holodeck is kino. But the show does not execute the Trek part of the idea very well.
I feel the same way about The Royale. It has its charm but is it a good Star Trek episode? Not really.

>>214215165
you sound like a high school dropout. obtaining a reference from a previous teacher or boss or someone who will speak highly of your character, achievement or work ethic who is NOT your friend or family is one of the lowest fucking bars to get over when you apply for higher education. Starfleet isn't compulsory they are looking for motivated applicants. if you can't even get a letter from ONE person who will say good things about you you don't belong in Starfleet.

>>214215260
sure and you'd get that from family friends teachers employers etc, sisko wasn't a reference he was a sponser

>>214215055
How is it stupid? Do you think you could just go and join the American navy if you were a britbong? Or do you think the only way you could possibly get in was if some high up government guy got you a green card and vouched for you?

>>214215385
maybe if you read the rest of the post past the first sentence

>>214212232
TOS & DS9, then VOY & ENT

>>214214291
Yeah I need to use all these psychedelics for my religion. :) yeah

>>214214033
you don't seem to have understood the premise

>>214215416
Was already refuted by the other anon's statement that they have supercomputers that can pull up your entire life history including shit you jerked off to on the holodecks in high school and that they would have already weeded out the phaser crazy maniacs before even letting them sit the test.

They have gone past the need for needing character references, as shown by Wesley's personal connection to fucking JEAN-LUC PICARD of the FLAGSHIP doing nothing for his chances.

>>214215498
weeding out crazies isn't the point of a character reference like i already explained. anyway the confusing stems from the fact that >>214214913
used "character reference" when he actually meant "sponsorship" which is different. when you get a security clearance you first need someone in the military to sponsor it. then when they do the investigate that interview people you provide as references to assess your character and stuff. it's totally different things. yes even Federation citizens need character references but no, they don't need sponsors.

diz white as: prostitute

>>214214770
The entire premise the very statement in your picture is based on the belief that Data cannot solve an original problem on his own. But he does it multiple times. I guess you could say because they taught him but I think he could do it without, Lore did.

>>214215640
Early seasons Data can only be explained in terms of he either was only pretending to be retarded, or that he was completely underestimating himself at the time because of Lore showing up and telling him he wasn't a real boy out of spite, and Data just believed him.

>>214215640
>The entire premise the very statement in your picture is based on the belief that Data cannot solve an original problem on his own.
I'm pretty sure this episode was about an original problem that would actually challenge him not that he "couldn't solve" it on his own. He's such an expert on Holmes that anything derivative the computer came up with he was able to instantly know the answer because of his advanced pattern noooticing abilities.

I really don't understand what the fuck is going on in this thread sometimes.

>>214215824
Freighters and sex with Shran, what more is there to understand?

>>214215824
This is the most on topic and Trek lore discussion focused thread in a long time though. I prefer autist anons arguing about their interpretation of what Starfleet regulations and structure from interpretation of textual references rather than fighting about the actual real world shit.

TIL trips descendant became a midget from a race of assholes in the delta quadrent

>>214215917
hey isn't that the Angel One manlet?

>>214215934
and Lal yes, but I mean look at him he aged into a mini Trip

>>214215917
>>214215934
kek yes it is the Angel One manlet

>>214215934
Good eye!
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Leonard_Crofoot

>>214214291
I once witnessed the great pachinkOHHH on a spirit journey

>the old EU (before it got the Star Wars treatment) revived Lal
>the actual "canon" leaves her dead

>>214216030
I wouldn't normally say nutrek has ever made a good call but in this case that's the right one, kinda ruins the tragedy of the whole thing if she comes back

>>214216068
Well I thought that Dr. Soong surviving Lore's attack via already uploading his mind into an android body and going into hiding and then sacrificing himself so that Data may live was better than that shit with yet another Soong and that planet of "biological" androids (or "synths")

>>214212750
It's the ultimate "what could had been" Trek and arguably had a better execution than Voyager but no way in hell does it compare to TNG.

>>214216161
I'm really not sure what your talking about I assume this is Picard? damn what a pile of shit

>>214214411
Agreed.

>>214216200
It's the Picard show where Soong type androids are suddenly like the human form Cylons from nuBSG

>>214212750
>timidly following the footsteps of the bold men of last generation

I also thought it was clever when the novels bring back the immortal Flint from TOS and he's able to help Data given his experience with androids much better callback than Picard bringing back the Gary Seven people just because and then retconning them so they're the same as the Traveler

>>214215903
Me too. This is great. I hope the seethers never come back.

A transporter will kill you and make a copy. O'brien has copies of the hot TNG girls in a buffer. I am right and you are wrong.

>>214216701
Seethers?

>half the thread deleted
was this just some schizo arguing with himself or what

Imagine being credited as "Soup Woman".

>>214216966
could be worse

>>214216948
That is the second time that has happened in like three days.

/trek/ team emergency meeting.

>>214216704
Counterpoint: A transporter does not kill you, but duplicates are given a new, similar, soul. William and Thomas have very different personalities and will only diverge further as time goes on.
A transporter is a teleporter via space womb.

I DON'T WANT THESE EMOTIONS!

>>214217043
Somehow you are the second weirdest person here lol

>>214217147
Based vengeful god

>>214217043
It was all the speculating about why people would work in a Star Trek post-scarcity society. What was wrong with that discussion?

>>214216948
I guess one of the posters was a schizo but I didn't realize it and was replying to him. But we were talking about on topic stuff so I honestly have no idea. Guess the mod didn't want a bunch of replies to dead posts in the thread so that's cool, whatever works.
As long as the schizos are erased I'm happy

>>214216948
I have no clue what the tranjans are doing
Some of the posts were the schizo and some of them were freighterposting which had nothing to do with him

>>214217147
>>214217194
>has the power to stop the husnok
>does nothing
>everyone dies
>shits and pisses himself in rage because everyone is dead because he did nothing
like nigga just teleport the ship to the delta quadrant if you don't wanna hurt them, or trap them in the grasp of a black hole for eons
he is the second least based near-omnipotent character in all of trek, after that goober of a greek god in TOS

>>214217348
I am really surprised there wasn't an episode involving Quark trying to sell tribbles.

>>214217383
it's like trying to sell fleas or rats. that only worked once when people generally didn't know what they were.

>>214217402
And that's where the humor would come from. Quark trying all the usual suspects and getting hard "no"s and looks of disgust or even threats, eventually finding some poor ignorant bastard to take some, shenanigans ensue, ship calls for emergency docking and explodes into a debris field of tribbles that begin orbiting the station, occasionally smacking against a window with a "pock" sound effect in the background of a couple scenes. So many options.

>>214217581
it's really not fun to me when characters are so fucking stupid that it's out of character. an obsessed profit driven man would not end up in a situation of trying to sell vermin that no one in their right mind would buy.

>>214212801
Do you want to listen to some fag like Picard lecture you about the Prime Directive and other pussy shit?
Or do you wanna be a freewheeling space trugger scrapping with Nausicaan niggers and getting blowies from Bajoran whores in filthy space truck stop bathrooms?

>>214217383
The brief moment where he tried to monetize all communication and transport tech wasn't obvious enough?

>>214217306
Lots of immaterial species in Star Trek, I say he's a trickster spirit who intentionally fucks with people for his own enjoyment, possibly sustenance as he feeds on uncertainty and doubt.
>Yeah bro there was an entire alien people here and I lived with a single mortal
>Yeah I'm about 10 000 years old and get mad over trivial things
>Yup, super terrifying god powers, better not cross me
I mean there's at least one species that sucks the life force right out of Jake Sisko so who's to say Old Man Grumperson wasn't just fucking with them?

>>214217626
He could've gotten stuck with them through no fault of his own, tribbles can be found in very strange places. Maybe a derelict purchased to part out, or a storage bay with a lapsed payment, all sorts of perfectly normal and rational things to purchase, and Quark always tries to find a way to profit, even in selling vermin.

>>214217664
the planet was an impossibility not to mention the phantom warship attacking them

>>214217645
Picard, any day of the week. I don't need space AIDS in my life.

>>214217581
>>214217626
>>214217686
this is dumb, you really want story how about this, the klingons are exterminating the tribble, quark is selling them on the black market, odo investigates the twist at the end is quark was just trying to justify what he was really doing, saving the species from extinction, think cartman in the southpark catpiss episode, still light hearted still plenty of opportunity for humor but no gross scene of fluffy little creatures dead in space banging into the hull, thats just disgusting and mean spirited, sounds like something nu-trek would do

>>214217581
There is totally some wild after hours vole fights like some pokemon colosseum crazy prophets on the promenade dbz wildin.

>>214217659
there were free refills anon, plus maybe not everyone knew quarks is fun, if anything it was a community service

>>214217797
nobody wants this story. the first thing you said was correct and all that needs to be said: it's dumb.

>>214217797
>that's just disgusting and mean spirited
It's just one scenario among, as I said myself, many potentials. Besides, it'd be funny if they found out tribbles can survive long periods in space and they're actually just hibernating or something.

>>214217877
well yea I'm trying to workshop the basic idea, but your right the basic idea is flawed
>>214217889
I guess that could be amusing

>>214217797
>Hrmh. This is low even for you, Quark. To profit off selling these harmless creatures for Klingons to hunt.
>...
>Anything and everything that earns you another piece of latinum. However there's one thing I don't understand. Where's the profit? You'd have to know that they'd spread uncontrollably, that a week after you've sold your first one there'd be no point in buying one - you could just pick them off the walls! So why? Why Quark? Why risk the Klingons retaliating for what you rake in at a single dabo table?
>...
>Unless... It wasn't... For the profit...
>NO! There's great money in tribbles!
Writes itself

>>214217209
I don't think the trannies are reading the posts they're deleting

this idea sucks. the episode we made about the Vorta was actually cool.

>>214217936
I like my basic idea but over all this would be the B plot no way you'd make this the A plot, still I can see the scene between odo and quark play out pretty much exactly how you say, odo harrumphs and says something like
>last I heard the klingons are still inspecting the freighter claron, from what I understand they'll be back in 4 hours
and walks out

>>214212205 (OP)
I know the writers gave the actor who played Travis fuckall to work with, but his performance comes across so insanely wooden and devoid of anything approaching charisma. I can't think of a worse regular in all of Old Trek

Okay which one of you faggots made a thread on /k/?

>>214217995
It was me and the other anon who did that one, as I said this idea is at best a B plot, the primitive Vorta idea was the A plot, in fact that could've been the entire plot, no B plot

>>214218309
the feral Vorta idea wouldn't have A/B plot it would have lots of talking scenes and probably a really good guest star to play one of the other Vorta.

>>214218345
well yea we said, make the prime primitive one combs but not exactly a weyoun, but any good actor could've done it, and yes the idea was no B plot the entire thing takes place on the planet

>>214218128
when your role has nothing to do you can't really hone your craft

>>214218191
lol, you must be joking thats hilarious, did they suggest nullifying the nemesis?

tribbles seem like they'd be great livestock for those who don't want to eat replicated foods
you just throw them foodscraps and garbage and you have a population large enough to grind into tribble burgers and make tribble coats

>>214218522
they are probably and I hope they are inedible, however you could always use them as shearing livestock, make wool from them those little fuckers would probably grow it back in a day and everyone says how soft the fur is

>>214218522
>>214218605
Their pelt and skin is just the same as plushies. Headcanon. Pig disgusting to try to eat.

>>214218633
>pelt and skin
no just the fur you are a bad person why do you want to hurt them?

>>214218522
Basically popplers from Futurama

>>214213408
D’Jem’hadar

>>214218649
I don't know of a way to eat animals without hurting them, but I am not a crazy future Federation type who knows the secret to all ethics. I bet they know a way though, get all that juicy tribble meat without hurting it.

>>214219116
they are like 90% fur, you are just a bad person

I didn't like PIC as a series, but the John de Lancie scenes were fucking top notch.
"even Gods have their favourites, Jean Luc, and you've always been one of my mine".

Kino.

>>214219516
remember when be was inexplicably obsessed with Vash in DS9? they didn't really think that one through

>>214219744
he got obsessed with vash in tng you idiot

It's funny how both TOS and TNG have very early series episodes about fucking leaving the galaxy like it's not even a concern.

>>214219780
because Picard was hot for her

>>214219788
>>214219788
and he invited her to go see the galaxy with him next time we run into them is after that jaunt, I don't see the disparity

>>214219806
he simply cares too much and it comes across as weird

>>214219861
Q becoming temporarily obsessed with a human is hardly unusual, in fact its par for course

>>214219888
no, he's obsessed with PICARD. to suggest Vash is a stand in for him is retarded and laughable.

>>214219968
no he gets obsessed with lots of lesser lifeforms, he's an infinite being with unlimited control of time and space and matter and everything else able to spend time with anyone or anything that peaks his interest.

What draws you to /trek/?

>>214220074
the comforting thought that I can discuss my favorite show with anons of like mind. Having to deal with your awful trash posts is small price to pay, and I get to tel you what a horrible person you are and how you should kys, so you know in the end win win, kys BF

>>214220033
he was so fucking DESPERATE for her to stay with him and it wasn't motivated by anything the viewer was made to understand. it was dumb and out of character.

>>214220211
you just might be autistic, he's lonely and wanted his freind to keep hanging out with him, how could you possibly not get that?

>>214220257
you're retarded. even the writers said it was a stretch. because it is. miss me with your Watsonian cope

>>214220397
ok, well it does work within the rules of how Q operates so deal with it or don't and you are seriously exaggerating if you think the writers thought it was uncharacteristic, he's jealous he's petty he's thoughtless, I don't even like the episode much but you are the one thats stretching, maybe because you like this idea of Q being this benevolent trickster only trying to help when all evidence shows the contrary, He' literally Loki in star trek, and by literally I Mean LITERALLY

>>214220517
>nuh uh: the post

>>214220533
and? you were wrong no other way to say it

>>214219483
If they're only 10% meat then I'm only 10% of a bad person. 10% for 10%, that's JUSTICE!

>>214220566
nta

>>214220759
>posts a horizontal page
>nuh uh I'm smarter
I mean really just try and put in a little effort just a tad

>>214220517
>maybe because you like this idea of Q being this benevolent trickster only trying to help when all evidence shows the contrary
are you high and hallucinating? did voices in your head say that shut because I sure didn't. my issue is Q being desperate not to lose and obsessed with Vash when it wasn't set up in the first place and also has absolutely 0 payoff in the episode

>>214220774
no you are 90% of a bad person for only focusing on the 10% rather then the 90% of soft fluffy fur, just to get at the 10% of meat

>>214220822
you're not worth it but I accept your concession

>>214220850
you seem really upset about this, it was setup and it was paid off why is this upsetting you so much?

>>214220880
>you seem the way I feel right now when I'm losing this argument
this doesn't work on people past the age of like, 7 buddy

>>214220871
lol nice try it takes one click to rotate you low effort tech deficient spaz, I'd do it for you but you don't deserve it.

>>214220915
ok bud, you do you, you refuted zero points I made and just sperged well done.

>>214220921
its the correct orientation in my gallery and uploads that way but it's besides the point because you got blown the fuck out by both Robert Hewitt Wolfe and John de Lancie because you wanted to defend bad OOC writing. but you still won't be silent. taking it out on me won't make you any less wrong.

>>214221137
>After falling in love with any woman foolish enough to give him the time of day, Bashir immediately blows it by acting like a simp.

>>214219785
Going ludicrous speed into god knows where in TOS seemed like a big deal to them

>>214221137
It's weird that a doctor falls in love with his patient.

>>214221214
Watch the episode.

>>214219785
>not even a concern
Didn't they not even make it past the barrier and have Gary Mitchell become an evil god figure that Kirk needed to murder?

>>214221524
Yeah but they didn't know that was going to happen.

>>214221137
Aw sweet, the ENT finale playing tonight!

Anyone going to be taking up a comfy ENT series watchalong after it loops?

>>214221470
It's a shit episode, but then there's the one where he tries to start up a relationship with the sanest mutant of the mutant quadret and she still walks away from him because he didn't have the fucking sense to just penis her until she falls in love with him like all other women are supposed to.

>>214221560
I don't think any of us are gonna stay up that late just to watch Ent

>>214214190
the majority of the crew doesn't go through the academy that's just the officers which 95% of the shows are focused on. I think the only main character that wasn't an officer is obrian

>>214221470
Why yes, anon. I certainly will do. Tonight at 10pm during The Great /trek/ DS9 Watchalong!

>>214213169
I'm halfway through season 2 and really like Trip. He's like a combination of kirk, mccoy, and scottie

>>214220074
>What draws you to /trek/?
Secret encrypted transmissions from Shadow President and Kabbalah Antipope Vic Mignogna, containing coded instructions on how to find the Great Deep Space 9 Watchalong on Heroes and Icons. Trust in the Plan. Glory be to H&I. Death to the opposition.

>>214221761
he's OK. my favorite regular ended up being Malcom by a landslide

>>214221668
Yeah it's a bit hard to disentangle because it's another case of early season Genetardation where he was adamant that in the future everyone is an officer (despite being a fucking vet himself and surely knowing that would be preposterous). O'Brien had the lieutenant officer pips and Riker calls him lieutenant once or twice. Ron D. Moore had served for a few months in the Navy as a youngin so he thought there should be guys doing that in Starfleet and made O'Brien an NCO in season 4.

I feel like when people argue about the early season stuff like they're doing itt they have to square it away with the fact that writers on the same show thought a lot of it was retarded and tried to move on from it.

>>214221801
One of you made a threat on my life the other day that’s been deemed credible and actionable. Enjoy your delusions while your brain stem remains intact

They didn’t just threaten me they threatened my kids

>>214221894
Isn't it true they planned to make Malcolm and Shran lovers in the next season, after Shran became a crewmember on the ship?
Unironically such a shame we didn't get that, those two would've been a far better couple than those two flamers in STD, plus alien/human > human/human every time.

>>214222263
Excuse me retard but you should go talk about Star Trek somewhere other than a terrorist organization

>>214221713
This is awesome! Curing the Dominion plague is definitely my favorite Bashir episode.

>>214222286
no

>>214222263
I shipped Malcom with Talas because they had that nice scene bonding over being military brats but then the next time she shows up they don't ever talk again also she's Shran's fiance also she fucking dies so fuck me I guess for daring to try to enjoy this slop show with a little fun shipping

>>214221668
I thought his initial rank was “Chief Petty Officer” because they wanted to flesh out his character more. Miles was too good for his fan given name of “Beam Nigga”.

>>214222334
you should test out the QR code

>>214222438
that's an nco anon it's the army equivalent of a first sergeant

How did Sisko pay for 12 hecaptes of pristine Bajoran land?
Was he gifted the land because he's the Emissary?

>christ schizo is back
oh joy

>>214218495
>>>/k/64198567

>>214222438
He's referred to as Lieutenant in season 2.
What's weird is that after they had fully fleshed him out, some retard STILL had Bashir mention that O'Brien went to the academy late in DS9, just making shit confusing again.

>>214222371
>Malcolm is the closest Shran could find to his dead fiancé
Fucked up, but I'd buy it.

>>214222545
I've been here since 2005 at 18, there is absolutely nothing you could post that would harm me.

>>214222600
Archer was actually a good Captain!

>>214222563
>had Bashir mention that O'Brien went to the academy late in DS9, just making shit confusing again.
Just because O'Brien didn't graduate did not mean he wasn't there for a few courses for specialistion purposes

>>214222568
Shran being with um...uhh....what's her name...Ja...something was really cute it's probably the only good thing about that terrible episode.

>>214222563
This is another reason we don’t get high episode counts anymore. Too many continuity errors. But it’s sick how Colm got to play Miles for 14 years.

>>214222158
We are legion. We are everywhere. We exist in the corners of your eye. We have bugged pastries and toilet seats. Nothing will stop The Plan...
... to watch Star Trek: Deep Space Nine on Heroes and Icons, starting at 10PM EDT/9PM CDT! See y'all there /trek/!
-- Shadow President and 33rd Degree Grand Freemason Wetwork CrossFit Guru, Vic Mignogna, out.
PS. Watch out for traffic cops and cats. IYKYK.

>>214222600
The site is being targeted by the allies for sex trafficking kids. It is world news not a schizo ramble and because it is world news it should be dawning on you people I have a much better grip on reality and consequences than you do. The worst possible thing you could do at this moment in history is virtue signal this is your safe space

>>214222673
>This is another reason we don’t get high episode counts anymore. Too many continuity errors.
I really don't think that's a concern for the moneybags guys
The way I see it, is that they used to order seasons ~20 episodes long. If the show flopped, no second season. If audiences knew the show wasn't going to be renewed for a second season, viewership plummeted. At some point, some pencil pusher decided to split the first "test" season into two, that are each about 8-10 episodes long. By ordering "two" seasons of a show, it's a way to fake out audiences into thinking that either the producers are confident enough in the show to renew it, or that the ratings were good enough to order a second one. This usually can keep viewship up for a 3rd or 4th season of middling-bad quality nowadays, and they usually don't cancel it earlier unless viewship is in the absolute gutter, or someone working on it has a controversy levied against them, because at that point it's more worth it to ride it out until the end. They might even crap out a shorter 5th season to meet contractual deadlines. Unfortunately, this has the consequence of making fans of shitty tv shows defend them to the grave because, "it ran for 5 seasons, they wouldn't have kept making it if nobody liked it/it really was shit".

>>214222600
The Wild West didn’t stay what it was. It turned into communists and pedophiles and fentanyl in the street. So did this place. So did you

>>214222652
I actually agree, feel free to call me retarded again, but he did the best he could with what little intel he had, and had to balance prior Terran knowledge with the realities of distant space travel and almost constant first contacts. Sure, compared to any other captain he could be considered terrible, but it only makes sense as the first stumblings into a new era.
>>214222792
>all that nonsense
okay

>>214222861
The uk us and aus are going after the site for refusing to implement age verification leaving children in harms way. If you think that’s nonsense you should be shot

>>214222861
>all that nonsense
Just do the needful and ignore it, like scotty would have done

>>214222906
James was a pedophile

>>214222836
I think there’s also SAG fuckery where actors have to ask for more money if a streaming show goes on for more than 5 seasons. That’s why it’s become the new ceiling instead of 7 or 10. TBBT only ended after 12 seasons because the actors’ salaries got so high even the massive syndication deals couldn’t keep it profitable.

>>214222848
Everything grows and changes over time, Anon. Nothing stays the same forever. We'll never get to interstellar travel if we stay in the Wild West, even if we have to endure a few decades of fent in the streets, it's a price worth paying in suffering and bodies to get us to the brighter future future generations will experience.

>>214222926
TBBT?

>>214222964
please don't feed the schizo, anon

>>214222965
Bing Bang Theory. Wil Wheaton had a reoccurring part as himself.

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy Interview | Holly Hunter, Alex Kurtzman, Sandro Rosta, Bella Shepard

https://youtu.be/j0R3LqYeKBE

>>214222965
>>214222988
Sorry, it was the last reply I was going to give him, honest. It was the last good TOS image I had, anyways. Bones introduced me to mint juleps and they've been my favorite drink ever since.

>>214212205 (OP)
ENT = Basically Nu Trek.

>>214222990
I see. One of the benefits of being a forgetful bastard is that I was able to forget that show existed.

>>214223042
Isn't that a bloody mary?

>>214223039
I managed to avoid NuTrek for so long but they finally fucking got me. I have to watch this shit because of my grannyfu Holly Hunter.

We are Fucking LOVING this Star Trek: SNW show! We want more of this quality Trek!

>>214223061
I may be wrong but I think I caught my parents watching an episode and Jonathan Frakes was talking to Leonard and Sheldon. I wasn’t even disappointed. He’s one of those actors who will pop up anywhere for a paycheck.

>>214223157
Frakes was never on it but Spiner was.

>>214223127
That dress on fake majel is so fuckin ugly

>>214223194
FUUUCK I’m timeline hopping again!

I'm midway through TNG and at first I missed the early seasons "beam down to planet" TOS style but I've come to really appreciate them being spaceNEETs and rarely leaving the ship now. Is DS9 like this? Someone told me they introduced a ship so they could leave the station which, idk, I was looking forward to a show completely set on the station.

>>214222926
I don't know how it is with streaming, but in the syndication days it was usually 6 year contracts for a show so unless a show was super popular it was really hard to get past 6 seasons because there was such a jump in salary demand.

Friends really messed with that because all of the 6 actors banded together and fucked with that model. They renegotiated for season 3 and kept doing so every season after. When the 6 year contract (that they continually renegotiated) was up, they stuck it to the network and demanded 750k each per episode. Season 9 they fucked with them again and upped it to 1 million each per episode. The Big Bang folks used the friends model to do the same thing.

>>214223157
>He’s one of those actors who will pop up anywhere for a paycheck.
anywhere? where?
I don't think he even was on Family Guy when they did their Star Trek thing

>>214223251
>That dress on fake majel is so fuckin ugly
I don't know what that means. What is fake majel?

>>214223286
Frakes was on FamilE Guy twice; once in a cutaway gag and for the TNG reunion episode

>>214223263
A lot of DS9 episodes are solely on the station

>>214223194
I feel bad for Brent Spiner, because he actually is a really talented actor. The awards don't respect Sci-Fi from an acting standpoint because he deserved at least a nomination or 2 for some of this Data episodes. I understand he has a love/hate relationship with being Data beacause it's kept him paid over the years with residuals and cons but I believe it has cost him a lot of potential opportunities, because everywhere he turned he would always be Data.

>>214223301
The woman who portrays the first officer, originally portrayed by Majel Roddenberry(née Barrett) in the original Star Trek Pilot "The Cage", has a ugly dress in this reboot series made in 2025

>>214223320
Did DS9 have a lot of bottle episodes?

>>214223366
>The woman who portrays the first officer
Rebecca Romijn? Like you don't know who that is!?

>>214223251
he doesn't actually watch trek, he just shills trash because he knows it makes people mad, i.e. trolling outside of /b/

>>214223378
Yes, the DS9 station sets were huge. they make good use of them. I think most of my fav episodes only take place on the station

>>214221591
Not all of us are on the east coast. And it'll go nicely for when TNG and TOS loops.
Poor VOY

>>214223407
I have no ill will towards the woman but I prefer not to explicitly address this show or anyone involved with it

>>214223348
If Brent didn’t get cast as Data he would have been either been a full time comedy actor or a villain character actor. He had the range to go either way. He may not have had a career as an A list movie star, but Data is a hero to millions of autistic children all over the world. Isn’t that just as cool?

>>214221137
Which episode is up tonight for Discovery and Strange New Worlds?

>>214223472
>are you prepared fer tha' whoopin' you've earned yourself lil cowpoke?

>>214223348
He got over it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOx7Rp-2bIw
For what it's worth, and I can't know how the man personally feels - but it is a career move to distance one from such a big role, if he wants to keep working without typecasting himself.
Same thing happened to Leonard Nimoy

>>214223492
H&I only plays star trek

>>214223466
Why are you doing this? Why are you Fucking doing this? Just because some chick somewhere wouldn't Fuck you, this is how you are going to act?

>>214223537
Your emotional outburst is most illogical

>>214223537
isn't it illegal to be german

>>214223348
I always found it interesting how Leonard Nimoy, despite being arguably the biggest pop culture monolith character from the entire franchise, managed to get a decent amount of work for himself where less iconic actors somehow got typecast even harder. I guess he was just that fucking good (and the fact that tv was better back then so guest starring on Columbo is better for your legacy than being on Family Guy). I thought it'd be the same with Brent but I guess it just didn't pan out for him.

>>214223637
from what I know Nimoy was a consummate professional as passionate about the integrity and dignity of whatever he was doing and Brent Spiner is very much...not that guy

>>214223637
It also depends on what you let your agent talk you into. They’re both Jews so they should have had the top agents in the biz.

>>214223080
no not even close they're what you drink at the Kentucky derby i do not care for either

/trek/ is hostile tonight. Who hurt you?

>>214223466
you can't be rude like that to becky lettuce

>>214223637
Nimoy did a lot of theatre work throughout his whole career. that helps with casting
But it is true that Leonard Nimoy was a unique man, we will never have another like him. He was simply too bright and too talented to be ignored post StarTrek cancellation

>>214223127
It's unreal how well it started versus how it's going. Whoever told them people wanted half the season to be comedy episodes should have their hands slammed in a car door repeatedly. God damn.

>>214223466
For the record I actually don't know this woman beyond her role in this production. never seen X man or any other thing she was in

>>214223686
>Who hurt you?
It matters not. What matters is the wildly disproportional response we will carry out.
The /Trek/iotomy Buttbuttination Shinobi-Nin Strike Force will totally flip out and carry out Shadow President and PTA Comptroller Vic Mignogna's swift and merciless retribution. The question you SHOULD be asking is,
>how badly do you want them hurt back?
Please report your answers on the Great DS9 Watchalong on H&I in less than 90 minutes! Glory be to Star Trek! Follow the Plan. Continue to provide the Shadow Administration valuable intelligence on the interloper for our dossiers! Live Long and Prosper!

>>214223039
>>214223121
except Holly Hunter every person on that couch is a black void

>>214223811
Wow you actively avoid things you dislike in a thread explicitly about that content. Do you want a cookie?

>>214223837
>explicitly about that content
This is the freighter thread

>>214223637
>>214223668
>>214223790
Don't forget he was also extremely well connected and had a bunch of director credits under his belt. He was closer to a media mogul that made appearances where he pleased rather than a pigeonholed actor trying to escape the shadow of a single role.

>>214223868
Becky Lettuce has thick strong legs like tree trunks and an arse like a draft horse, she can haul a lot of freight with her callipygian arse and strong back (may i be that freight)

>>214223868
Have you seen that dump truck? Rebecca can haul a lot of freight yessiree

>>214223877
>well connected
>mogul
I think you're trying to imply nepotism here when he was a self made man in fact. just smart and industrious in everything he did.

>>214223921
you can be well connected by initiating networking,that isn't nepotism that's just schmoozing

Why are there so many childless women in Star Trek?

>>214223877
> He was closer to a media mogul that made appearances where he pleased rather than a pigeonholed actor trying to escape the shadow of a single role.
>Stars in two of the greatest single episodes in television history (Marge VS the Monorail and City on the Edge of Forever).
Fucking legend doesn’t even cover it.

>>214212232
>most of TNG??
Watch the rest of it then ya doofus.
TOS is great, but the production value and 60's camp is going to turn off a lot of modern audiences.
Go watch the original pilot for TOS called "The Cage" it gets chopped up and re-edited into a TOS episode (where the famous guy beeping in a chair comes from). But the original pilot is just a really solid golden age of sci-fi story.
Also watch the TOS movies.
If you want something like TNG, then go watch DS9. Might take you a bit of time to get used to the new vibe, but its good.
Voyager is Voyager. Its not awful, and once in a while its got some good trek. Counterpoint is one of my favorite episodes of trek ever. It also has some real turds. But its like Diet-TNG.
Personally I like enterprise a lot, but I understand that many people don't. You should watch it after voyager.
As far as I'm concerned trek ends there. I was excited for discover when it was first announced, and bryan fuller was the show runner, and the first season was going to be an anthology where they told stand alone stories at different points in the trek's history/timeline. So like a TOS era episode, and then next a 2 parter set in the time after the shows ended,

>>214223921
No no, not at all, the opposite in fact. I'm saying the man clawed his way to success before he'd even considered being in the shadow of Spock, and was practically out of it before TOS ended and certainly by the time TMP began. He was multitalented and turned to directing and music and all manner of other entertainment media things with ease.

>>214224000
He was also incredible in FRINGE.

>>214223831
That's the NuTrek gameplan honestly, they get one or two who are the real deal and that you'd have loved to be on Trek in its prime, to give a veneer of legitimacy to the rest of the bullshit they'll pull. I love Michelle Yeoh, out of respect for her I am never watching that fucking shit they slapped her in.

I really enjoy Nimoy's narration work. he did so many weird projects and video games

>>214224036
unfortunately that show was both the child of jj and a victim of his mystery boxes

>>214223970
Would you really be willing to have a kid on an exploration ship where people regularly die fused into the floor or turned to goop or dephase with reality? You'd have to be insane.

>>214217048
>William and Thomas have very different personalities
Yeah, because one spent years on a desolate planet alone, and one got beamed back safely and went on to live his life.
If "will" had been left behind and "thomas" beamed up, then they would both be in the same situation they find themselves in at the start of the episode.
They didn't mind meld or join the great link to synch their memories.
I just kind of hate that the bring back thomas riker for one episode in DS9, and then send him to the prison camps. He could have been a decent reoccurring character (or at least show up in a mirror universe episode, not like he has shit to do between signing autographs at conventions).

>>214223970
Combine Suppression Fields

Is Star Trek Beyond worth watching? everyone seems to like it.
I have only watched the first few minutes of Star Trek 2009 and had to turn it off

>>214224090
What young actors in their current prime would you like to see on this new show

>>214224160
go away. go talk to Worf again. leave Star Trek alone!

>>214224123
Thomas should have been introduced earlier so he could have had more growth. But Will would have made him attend boring Starfleet meetings in his stead. Maybe fuck Troi’s mom when she showed up begging for dick.

>>214212205 (OP)
OP strikes me as a guy who grew up on a freighter.
>>214223263
DS9 does have some travel even before they get the Defiant, but it is mostly based around the station.
>>214223522
Heh.

>>214224010
It's fascinating how Bill and Leonard both took direct opposite ways of keeping their heads above the water yet both managed to pull the rabbit out of the hat and avoid career hell. Honestly it might be even MORE impressive that Bill managed to just swing his dick, throw tantrums and act like the biggest guy in every room his way to eternal relevance. He did end up having to play Bill in every non Trek thing but I think he's loved doing that so fair enough to him lol. But Leonard would have hated that.

>>214212868
It had been around before that, since archer was a kid.
The thing is until the warp 5 engine on the NX-01 the starfleet ships weren't much better than the freighters, and they were mostly patrolling close to home.
I wish travis had more than 2 episodes, I liked that he was a spacer, if you pay attention through all of star trek, not counting token aliens, I think EVERYONE is from earth.
All those star bases, star ships, and colonies they trip over every week, you should end up with more humans in starfleet from Mars, or New Switzerland, or whatever. Instead you just get the girl from the DS9 episode from the moon.

>>214212801
Cassidy Yates preferred freight because there is no bureaucracy or paperwork or regulations

>>214224207
As a child I hated her and found her repulsive.
But the other I get, the more I like Luwaxana and wonder why picard doesn't just throw it to her.
Looks like the kind of girl who fucks like an animal and wont stop until she's turned your hips into dust.

>>214224136
Yeah, it feels like a long TOS episode. Pegg wrote out instead of Kurtzman and it really shows.
>>214224160
Don't really care about actor, but I would love if they made a show without Kurtzman's greasy fingers all over it.

I fucking love good TOS episodes

>>214224262
Probably because she insists that Mister Homn watches. Keeps normal guys like Picard away.

I HATE ALEXANDER EPISODES SO FUCKIN MUUUUUCH

>>214224291
>not making him ring the gong every time she cums

>>214224272
Do I need to watch 2009 or the other one in order to understand Beyond

>>214224262
>Gene Roddenberry hit that and Nichelle on the side
Great bird of the galaxy indeed...

>>214224333
No, just google the plot on wikipedia and stop being retarded.

>>214224293
The problem is he's such an inconsistent appearance on the show.
Like he shows up, has an episode or two, and then worf sends him back home.
Then his parents show up and say "raise your fucking son" and he does, for a few episodes, then he sends him back home again.
If you want to make worf a single dad, make him a single dad, if you don't, then don't give him a fucking son you never do anything with except to indict worf as one of the worst fathers on television for boring episodes everyone skips that doesn't have blue barrels.

>>214224355
He died of syphilis.

>>214224291
You just know she makes him ring the bell every time she climaxes.

>>214224333
No, 2009 is only mandatory viewing for NuTrek

>>214224262
Picard could pull prime pussy like Vash. He wouldn't go for roast beef.

>>214224445
>He wouldn't go for roast beef.
counterpoint - he went for far roastier beef in insurrection

>>214224480
tbf, that was roast beef that would never go bad and would only get fresher

I thought Discovery was uncanonized, but now Starfleet Academy is taking place AFTER Discovery's time skiP?

>>214221137
aw yeah my big nigga on DS9 tonight

>>214224623
Shouldn't this big nigga be embarrassed he's running a restaraunt instead of being a warrior?

>>214224680
no he broke free from that stupid bullshit and lives a live he actually enjoys

>>214224680
He fights the hunger of his cilents. his Batleth is the spatula

>>214224225
That one ensign who got put on trial for being 1/4th romulan was from Mars Colony.

>>214214190
>Not everyone can get into Starfleet, nigga.
No Romulan genetics allowed.

>>214224759
He could have gotten a pass, if he was honest

>>214224703
“My microscope is my Batleth. My enemy is the unknown” whispered the Klingon scientist as his face was repeatedly bashed into the dirt.

>>214224778
He didn't have Picard there to lecture him about the first duty of every Starfleet officer and the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based.

>>214222772
BASED VIC. This is HUGE victory for the good guys!

>>214224800
I thought I read somewhere that Klingon scientists were considered highly honorable, probably as a way to handwave how such a bloodthirsty race could discover warp travel independently

>214224883
>IMG_
not you

>>214224887
>how such a bloodthirsty race could discover warp travel independently
it wasn't independent; they got it from the Hur'q

>>214224964
is that the spammer on wider /tv/?

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>>214225151
>>214225151

>>214217934
You're expecting the people in this thread to have imaginations. That's way beyond them. Think about it—if you try to discuss how the rest of the Federation lives, the ones outside Starfleet, it brings about a Janny Thanos Snap.

>>214225358
I'm pretty sure he snaps your posts because you post the same stale bait shit every single day to try to derail the thread

God bless him for that

>>214218680
You mean basically the Shmoo from Lil' Abner. Learn your history.

>>214221427
>he doesn't know about the Florence Nightingale effect

>>214224523
I wouldn't fuck nurse ratchet with YOUR dick.

>>214222158
>that’s been deemed
Weasel words. Take your persecution LARP elsewhere.

>>214225407
You call it bait, but you've never refuted any of it. Yet you demand anons revere Trek like some sort of infallible religion.

pound sand

>>214226274
I'd rather pound your mom, young'un as she is