Thread 214217767

>I'm a real conservative
>But I always find an excuse to blast the party that supports tax cuts, pro-life policies, limited government, and judicial restraint
>That makes me principled

>>214217767 (OP)
>pro-life
More like pro-nigger

>>214217767 (OP)
>limited government
>good
That’s retarded. Conservativism as a whole has always been retarded, they’re just libertarians with bibles. At least now under Trump they’re pretty based and flirting with white ethnonationalism.

>I miss the old Republican party that was going extinct and losing
>This new Republican party, that wins and expands its base, is bad
This character was a literal psyop to fool people into thinking it's principled conservatism to accept losing

>>214217767 (OP)
>Conservatives are heartless thieves, liars, warmongers, and have no principles. They cower over a mystical sky daddy and should be shot.

>Liberals are…. too pussy to kill all conservatives.

Wow he really takes it to both sides

>>214217767 (OP)
Taxing the rich is good
Abortion is good
Big government is good
Gun control is good
Environmentalism is good
Animal rights are good

>>214217767 (OP)
>I'm a Republican only because Democrats don't win elections

Did people actually watch this crap? The only thing I like about Dorkens is that he’s a gay that hates women.

>>214218122
It has top tier waifus

>the old Republicans were good! Only Trump, the Tea Party & MAGA are bad!

They media said Reagan was a cowboy actor who was going to destroy the world.
They said George W. Bush stole the election and let black people die in New Orleans.
They said George HW Bush was a racist for pointing out a black crime in his campaign ads.

Every current Republican is always "the bad one" but they treat them all the same way, you just forget.

>>214218248
I don't remember anyone trying to put Reagan or the Bushes in prison or likening them to Adolf Hitler

>>214218248
>The Tea Party wins back a red wave in Congress
>Wait no, stop! Bring back the old Republicans!

>>214218369
huh, so liberals were always retarded

>>214218369
this shit don't really land after The Great Noticing

>>214218248
>Every current Republican is always "the bad one" but they treat them all the same way, you just forget.
I wish more people noticed thius. I lived through the Bush era. The said the nastiest stuff about him. Called him a war monger. Accused him of not stepping down after his second term. For stealing the election in the first. He created the Patriot Act. Tortured people in Gitmo. Two wars that were unnecessary that we are still paying today that the only ones that profited were PMCs of which Cheny the VP had connections to. He was the most hated president I ever seen even more than Trump is and now retards are trying to rewrite history and say he was a good president because of TDS.

>>214217767 (OP)
He's a neocon and if you study the history of the movement, it was created by billionaire kikes to be a strawman golem. Defending it in media, is par for the course for the creators... who also own the media. This is the power of jewish infrastructure. They aren't localized in one part, they control all the relevant parts.

>>214218433
In 2028, Democrats will be saying "JD Vance is worse than Trump ever was. Vance is more competent and dangerous!"

>>214218433
Lots of people noticed this which is why it stopped being effective and people have been voting republican hence trumps presidency.

The system is built to swing between 2 jewish owned parties. It creates an illusion of freedom.

>>214218422
many such cases

>>214217965
It was always conservatism's role to be the heel and the losers.
That paradigm is changing, however.

>>214218369
>same shit
>one is largely responsible for millions of deaths, continent destroyed (arguably)
>W led the way for an unnecesary war, supported by many other politicians and the intelligence community, and some other fucky stuff like Le Patriot Act
totally the same thing there

>>214218028
>Liberals are…. too pussy to kill all conservatives.

Does he actually say something this?

>>214217767 (OP)
More like pro-kike

>>214217927
>>214217965
>>214218590
Hello rabbis

>>214218433
This
Even my own mother who had Bush derangement during his presidency and was still blaming him for everything during the entirety of Obama’s presidency suddenly changed her opinion when Trump came along. She also suddenly liked John McCain because he said “Trump le bad” then died when she despised him in 2008. And don’t get me started on Dick Cheney.

>>214217927
>unironically advocating for more government
It's hard to believe these people exist but they do

>>214217767 (OP)
>the party that supports judicial restraint
what did he mean by this

>>214217927
okay, bootlicker

>>214217927
>At least now under Trump they’re pretty based and flirting with white ethnonationalism.
JD Vance married an indian and his primary philosophical influence is a jew.

>>214218305
Because you’re a zoomer who doesn’t remember anything before Obama.

"Conservatism" isn't even a real ideology, it is just a front for bigotry and abusiveness, so that they can pretend it's just "politics" when they lie to the rest of us

>>214219050
it means he supports judges enforcing laws, not creating laws

>>214219099
judges don't create laws

>>214218422
yes

>>214217767 (OP)
lol that monologue is the definition of a writer smelling his own farts

>>214219289
Anon the US is common law. Judicial rulings become legal precedents, defacto laws

>>214218369
It's be funny if as a prank whoever is the primary winner for Democrats we just call them Hitler and all Democrats and leftists nazis and see what happens.

>>214219095
Conservatism is a genuine ideology. It's more genuine than "progressivism" where the only values people hold are "change for the sake of change".
All i see progressives do is tear down fences, then complain about problems, then cry Nazi when someone wants to protect fences or build the fences that kept problems out.

>>214217767 (OP)
>But I always find an excuse to blast the party that supports tax cuts, pro-life policies, limited government, and judicial restraint
which one do you mean?

>>214219039
The state having more power means that they can be more based if they have a based ideology. It's a matter of principle. If the government makes it a cause to do something that is more important than the survival of the individual, such as killing all the wrong people and raising up all the good people, then only a moral coward would shirk his duty to die so that this utopia can be made manifest.

>>214219039
They want to be welfare parasites which can't happen with a small government

>>214219289
Liberal judges thinks the law is whatever er they interpret it to be instead of the way its been written.

It's funny how much TV writers freaked out over the Tea Party when it was just boomers holding up signs that wanted a tax cut. It's why nobody listened to them when they said Trump was Hitler.

>>214217927
>JD Vance
>Peter Thiel
You're gonna love your new indian ethnostate alright

>>214219067
Stephen Miller is a jew and he's the most hardcore conservative in the cabinet. I'd take 100 more Miller's than faggot who enables stupid shit just because he mindlessly hates jews

>>214220286
>Conservatism is a genuine ideology.
How exactly? There's nothing about conservatism that subsumes the individual to the glory of totalitarianism, it's all just another basket of selfish benefits like any other western liberal trash political stance. Pure power comes from pure, selfless self-policization and transcendence from the shackles of flesh toward the greater purpose of the end of humanity.

>>214220421
JD vance supported the India tariffs. Fear monger elsewhere groyper

>>214220424
Good goy, let America be run by the enemy race, goooood, never be racist, that would be chud!

>>214220286
Conservatives have done nothing but acquiesce to the left and indulge their psychotic wishes with minor grumbling. Doesn’t sound like a real movement to me.

Maybe it’s time for conservatism to be replaced by ethnonationalism.

>>214220398
They already just got a tax cut passed by Bush you dingus

>>214219289
Stupid fags who think like this are disposable

>>214220468
You're projecting retard. Stephen Miller is the most hardliners anti immigration member in the Trump cabinet, he's doing more to debrown America than a faggot like you on 4chan

>>214220521
And king nigger wanted to raise taxes

Conservatism just comes down to hierarchy and the ascendancy of the in-group/oppression of the out-group. What retards who cheer for conservatism don't realize is just how small that in-group actually is.

>>214220431
>>214220486
Conservatism is simply reactionary to the insanity of leftist progs. Sure some things don't need to be conserved, but saying conservatives don't make sense is implying everything progs do is correct.
Don't forget that protecting kids from trans groomers is conservative, being against open borders is conservative.

Reactionary Conservatives have lost a lot, but has protected against a lot more. So I don't understand your argument that it's a failed ideology.

>>214219289
The absolute state of American education (I’m American btw)

>>214220887
It's not genuine. It doesn't have an idea that supercedes everything else, it's all just reactions.
If the supremacy of your ideology does not supercede the paltry offerings that you seek from it, then it is not a genuine ideology. You could just as easily say that you want things to be "nice" for you and it would mean the same thing.

>>214218977
>>214219039
>>214219060
>>214219067
Without the state peoppe degenerate. What? Did you think people under a white ethnostate such as 1940’s Germany all voluntarily chose to act what’s in their best interests? No, people needed to be pressured to act just. You take away the government’s power like cuckservatives do and you get a fucking multiracial jungle.

>>214217965
principled conservatism is defending the libtard agenda of a generation ago

>>214221233
Neocons, they're dying out now because aftual conservatives discovered they weren't actually worried about conserving anything

>>214221288
yeah we just hate women and minorities it's great

pol incels are so pathetic

>>214221320
I wish I could lock you in a mating press and hold hands as I hear your cute little moans anime-chan

>>214221317
Minorities are shitting up the country and women were the ones who voted to let them in, you're damn right we hate them

>>214221346
now this is the real /pol/ experience

>>214221317
hate is a survival instinct

>>214220354
>they can be more based if they have a based ideology
No they can't. The system of checks and balances is flawed because the government is made up of numerous parts that actively work against each other. The reason nothing ever gets done is because the president says one thing and congress says another. A bigger government would only compound this problem.

>show comes and goes
>the six people acknowledge it exists either laugh at it or shit on it
>years pass
>a clip trends on social media
>daily threads ever since

it’s sad how dead this place is

>>214221538
People look at the century of decline of the west, two pointless world wars, and foreigners filling our countries as the "success of democracy"

>>214221538
That's a perk, not a flaw. Our government was created this way to ensure one retarded government wouldn't be able to change the entire country overnight.

>>214218433
I don't like Trump but Bush was still the worst president of any of our lifetimes (assuming none of us are old enough to have been around for Nixon, god I hope) and it isn't even fucking close. People just don't like the cattiness and mean tweets, Bush fucking destroyed our country and he had to cheat to win both times. Absolutely pathetic.

>>214221158
Well here you are giving the pilpul of progs
>It would be "nice" if we didn't groom children to be trans but that's not a real ideology

I literally don't care what your retarded argument is against conservatives. Civilization has to suffer Darwinism like animals do, and if a civilizations behavior is unsustainable then it will die out, simple as. South Korea's civ is going to die out because of shortsighted goals.

Most leftist progs are anti natilist, pro human annihilation. Leftists support anything to lower birth rates and neuter the population. And although that's somewhat noble, I don't like how that bias has only extended to my people and nobody else. So my reactionary conservatism is targeting your human behavioural engineering to lower the body count of America and Europe that only accounts for 20% of the human population while you ignore Asia which has 60%

>>214221538
That's intentional. The founders wanted to ensure any change to the government was slow and tedious. The constitution has only been amended 27 times in our entire history

>>214221640
>Bush had to cheat

>the only recount areas in Florida were in BLUE districts

Oh you lefty retards and your ignorance of history

>>214221538
>The reason nothing ever gets done is because
chuds want nothing to get done, because they want you to vote for fascism

>>214221705
The ballots were rigged and the recounts were stopped because people started riots. You had Supreme Court justices who were whining they had to wait four years to resign/saying "they'll just ask for recounts until they win." It was bullshit.

>>214217767 (OP)
Textbook Rino

>>214221538
A based ideology would simply compel the government to ignore the checks and balances and not work against itself, so becoming huge would only increase its total power and ability to destroy all of its enemies, which is a much greater and nobler pursuit than anything a pathetic civilian can aspire to.

>>214221796
Ballots were rigged my ass, the democrats were blatantly cheating and were mad they were caught

>>214221653
> a bloo a bloo a mee a mee mee mee
not a genuine ideology
genuine ideology is self-sacrifice on the altar of the ideology to destroy everything that opposes it, and for the ideology to reign supreme over all things, forever

>>214221842
Have you ever actually looked at the ballots they had in Palm Beach County? Look up "butterfly ballot."

>>214221346
i-it's not as if i'd like that or anything!

>>214217927
>>limited government
>>good
Yes, it is good you bootlicker.
America had the highest economic growth and growth in living standards before we had a central bank, income tax and massive intervention.

>>214222036
That’s wrong tho, nigger.

America’s highest economic growth came AFTER all of those things were created

Are you the kind of historically illiterate Jew that thinks the Gilded Age was the height of America?

>>214222140
>America’s highest economic growth came AFTER all of those things were created
lmao
America had double digit economic growth during the mostly free market gilded age.
>The rapid expansion of industrialization led to real wage growth of 40% from 1860 to 1890 and spread across the increasing labor force. The average annual wage per industrial worker, including men, women, and children, rose from $380 in 1880 ($12,381 in 2024 dollars[1]) to $584 in 1890 ($19,738 in 2024 dollars[1]), a gain of 59%.[2]

>that thinks the Gilded Age was the height of America?
It literally was and it's jewish propaganda you swallow that claims that the gilded age was bad.
Imagine falling for public school propaganda.

>>214217767 (OP)
>tax cuts, pro-life policies, limited government, and judicial restraint
One of these things is not like the other

>have 8% a year growth
>but 6% a year inflation
>average wages vs assets is declining

yea what a wonderful modern world

>>214221796
>rigged
By the Dems you retard. Florida was already doing an electronic recount which was the standard procedure in that state, but the Gore camp went specifically to blue stronghold districts and demanded they throw out the results and do a hand recount so they could count non-Gore votes as Gore votes.
And the butterfly ballot is exceedingly simple to read, it has fucking arrows pointing to where you need to punch. Did you want blinking lights on these arrows too?

>>214221579
Truly amazing triumphs of democracy.

I wonder if they can do the *exact opposite* now that the demos calls for it, ya know to see if democracy can go two ways or not.

>>214222207
nah, the gilded age has the protective tariff which coincided with republican dominance as republicans were the Tariff party
it was protectionism that built america

I wonder where all the money went? Imagine a nation having millions of people giving away a chunk of their earnings to undeserving bureaucrats and still being trillions in debt. Every motherfucker in office for the last 50 years needs to be hung by the balls.

>>214222207
Children worked in coal mines and it was such a problem we almost had an entire constitutional amendment about it, Anon.

>>214222482
true

>>214222373
It's not simple to read. It is confusing. Who reads back and forth like a schizo like that?

>>214222432
>has the protective tariff
The economy wasnt as globalized back then. The tariffs were actually a bad thing and they would have been even more better off without it.
Many countries have tariffs, it was extremely common back then.
The difference is that USA had extremely free markets.

>>214222511
>Children worked in coal mines
Ahh love this one.
Child labor was a fact of life throughout all human history. Children worked in much more horrible conditions than what preceeded this era.
It was this era that raised the incomes of the average person to the point that child labor became obsolete.
Capitalism destroyed child labor.
Cope, seethe etc.

>we almost had an entire constitutional amendment about it
These laws came many decades after capitalism abolished child labor.

>>214221317
The alternative to hating minorities is apparently mass importing and vigilantly protecting child rapists and then covering up for them when they rape children.

I think racism is probably not that bad.

>>214222373
having TWO separate socialist parties on a ballot in america is fucking wild. we are so far off the trail.

>>214221860
Only based on your retarded insular opinion. And since I don't subscribe to it you can't just apply your wrong definitions to me.

>>214222557
>Child labor was a fact of life throughout all human history. Children worked in much more horrible conditions than what preceeded this era.
No, actually, they factually did not. Children helping out on the farm is not the same as working in a sweatshop or working on a steam powered loom.
>Capitalism destroyed child labor.
No, if anything populism did. The era you are extolling was immediately followed by the Progressive Era, which was characterized by trust busting, big government, and worker's protections. People elected people like Teddy Roosevelt because they were sick of getting sick from bad medicine and their kids getting maimed in factories.

>>214217767 (OP)
The wildest thing about this show was how they devoted a whole fucking episode to the media 'accidentally' editing George Zimmerman's 911 call to make him sound as racist as possible. People honestly used to be so fucking stupid they would believe shit like that.

>>214222644
people are even stupider now

>>214222612
What a fucking retard. We've always had multiple parties on presidential ballots, they just never win.

All socialists deserve a bullet and a mass grave by the way

>>214220286
>Conservatism is a genuine ideology
Then why do every single one of its adherents engage in bad faith 100% of the time?

>>214218422
Leftists were always retarded. But still somehow not as retarded as MAGA. The biggest group of mentally ill pedophiles I've ever seen worshipping a reality TV show host in a cult.

>>214222640
>they factually did not.
You're literally retarded.
You think children didn't work in mines before this era? Of course they did. People did whatever they could to survive.
Even working on farms was brutal and often resulted in deaths.
>Children helping out on the farm is not the same as working in a sweatshop or working on a steam powered loom.
I agree, farm life was far worse.
>No, if anything populism did.
The data proves that wrong.
Child labor was on it's way out long before any laws were passed.
>Progressive Era
The era that destroyed the country and gave the state total power.
>trust busting
Not a good thing.
Standard oil was nothing close to a monopoly but they broke it up anyway.
>People elected people like Teddy Roosevelt
Because they're retarded cucks.
The progressive era gave us the federal reserve and income tax. It gave us the great depression under hoover(yes his policies were progressive) and FDR. You're unironically retarded.

>>214222723
you're thinking of socialists

>>214217927
Conservatism hasn't "conserved" anything ever, they have lost 100% of all political conflicts.

>>214222036
let me guess, your dumb ass voted in the current "limited" gov putting military in every state

>>214222723
>Then why do every single one of its adherents engage in bad faith 100% of the time?
Why do leftists accuse the other side of what they are guilty of?

>>214222693
People now just assume the media is hostile to them, which is much saner.

>>214219039
You will be ruled one way or another, the question is always how and by who.

Step aside amerisharts this is the real conservative you need

>>214222750
Both Roosevelts were some of the best presidents we've ever had. Libertarianism is an ideology that no one fucking agrees with. You're losers that think we shouldn't have driver's licenses. Shut the fuck up.

>>214222774
The military stopping crime is based, fuck shitlibs and fuck their pets.

I'm late to this thread but just want to say big ups to the chads ITT who see through the propaganda from Daniels/Sorkin/HBO/Hollywood in general and call them on it. Gives me hope not all are brainwashed.

>>214222774
one district equals 50 states? can you speak or type without lies? doubtful.

>>214222901
yeah until one day they show up at your door. Sorry your parents door, you fat pedophile faggot

>>214222958
turn on your monitor

>>214222973
>yeah, but if you arrest people who rape and kill and carjack the state might come for YOU
Libs already want right wingers dead, right wingers have no reason to put up with your pro-crime garbage anymore. Get fucked.

At what age did you all grow out of being left wing? For me it was around 23

>>214223036
I swung back and forth in my twenties but now I'm pretty much a "Democrat, but no trannies allowed" left winger.

>>214223034
this is why conservatives are seen as subhuman apes, you guys can't think more than 4 years ahead. Someday all that new "normal" military power in the streets may not be on your side. You will only have yourself and your cult like behavior to blame

>>214222973
>>214223034
Everything Alex Jones told you Obama was going to do a decade ago, you just went ahead and did it lol

>>214222890
>Both Roosevelts were some of the best presidents we've ever had.
lmao
>America's PEAK was with tent cities, extreme poverty and people starving to death
It's incredible how brainwashed you retards are.
YES, FDR's policies are what made the great depression so "great" in the first place. He basically turned the economy into a centrally planned socialist shithole for over 10 years.
>Libertarianism is an ideology that no one fucking agrees with.
Plenty of people do. In fact a Libertarian was elected president of Argentina. You mad?
>we shouldn't have driver's licenses
false strawman

>>214223036
I'm a center left liberal. Fuck mentally ill trump fags and fuck the mentally ill far left

>>214223034
What happens when a Democrat is in power and you've already made it acceptable to use the military for anything?

>>214223073
When you grow up and learn economics, you'll become right wing again

>>214222973
You fags should stop with the "it could happen to you" excuse were not left wing faggots sheltering illegals like you fags are

>>214223073
Thats crazy, the modern Dem party is an embarrassment

>>214223094
Oh my god you're actually a fucking libertarian. Holy shit. How does it feel knowing the majority of Americans are diametrically opposed to you?

>>214223117
The Biden administration struggled with recruitment. What makes you think you fags would even have a military to use? Most combat arms lean conservative, they hate you, what you suggest will never come to pass

>>214223123
How does it feel knowing the next time we're in power we're going to use your playbook to get revenge because you opened this door?

>>214223150
Libertarians are no different than the left, the only thing they differ on is gun rights

>>214223183
Right wingers are tax payers that have job wtf do you think is going to happen retard

>>214223155
I can tell you only larp about knowing how the military operates

>>214223155
>Dude you won't have a military to use haha
Retard

>>214223085
I'm not a conservative. Bukele is an example of exactly how to handle shitlib society, just suspend human rights and arrest everyone and suddenly an unliveable shithole improves a hundred times over. Left wing governance gives us Detroit, right wing governance gives us Singapore.

>>214223091
I think the state having power is fine as long as it acts in your interests. The problem with the left is not that they want the state to have power, it's that they are pro-crime and all of their policies exist to make crime more prevalent.

>>214223117
>what if we didn't arrest people for going to church while scientists said that Covid couldn't be transmitted at BLM riots?
You guys already played your hand. I know you want me dead, so I don't care about not using power to my benefit. I just want to be governed well, which the left will never permit when they're in power.

>>214223215
nta but you greatly over-estimate the current military and it's standards. Probably because youre a gay redditor fag

>>214223183
>next time you're in power

Lmao, you fags won't sniff the White House for the next 20 years. Your illegals are being deported, USAID is gone, left wing politics haven't been this unpopular since the 50s, you fags are cooked

>>214223233
>Left wing gives us Detroit
Can confirm. t. Downriver

>>214223233
You value safety over freedom but choose to live in a free country and not a "safe" one. Curious!

>>214223215
Unlike you, I'm a veteran, I certainly know what I'm talking about. The only liberal members in the military tend to be faggot pogs and they're almost always the shitskins and the women, not the actual trigger pullers

>>214223253
>He thinks the low approval rating is because non-Democrats hate the party
It's because 90% of Democrats hate the party, retard
>Musk
Drug addicted retard who blew a quarter of a billion dollars to buy an election then just called his boss a pedo in under six months. Enjoy your Thiel puppet next lol

>>214223253
You're so afraid of next year that you're trying to rig the House elections lmao

>>214218422
damn im old. imagine thinking bush was anything other than a bumbling retard

>>214223318
NTA but who gives a fuck about approval ratings here in 2025? All that shit is irrelevant and usually fake as fuck

>>214223341
How? By requiring an ID to vote?

>>214223380
Retard

>>214218305
Shouldn't you be playing roblox?

>>214219072
Zoomers started with biden lol

>>214223401
Literally every administration and both parties indulge in redistricting are you 12?

>>214218305
It's page 1 of their playbook

>>214222723
I've never heard a conservative refer to a leftist as a commies unless they were explicitly communists.
Every leftists has referred to a Conservative as a Nazi for holding bare bone opinions like "criminals should go to prison" and "we should have borders so not just anybody can walk into our country".

>>214218305
Interesting lettering on that lady's sign

>>214223428
The only people that ever try to ban gerrymandering are Democrats. Democrats keep trying to get both sides to stop and only fight back when Republicans push it first

>>214223341
Rigged how? You fags have gerrymandering California, New York and Illinoise to absurd levels. If congressional seats were proportional with voting, Republicans would have 10 more seats right now

>>214223520
I agree. We should have independent redistricting in every state, proportional voting, and abolish the electoral college.

>>214223484
>I've never heard a conservative refer to a leftist as a commies unless they were explicitly communists.
I'm old enough to remember guys like Rush Limbaugh calling Bill Clinton a communist

>>214223520
Same with Michigan

>>214223552
See >>214223514

>>214223540
Ah you fags and the electoral college will never not be funny. Can't win by the current rules so you want to change them instead

>>214218305
Probably because you are 12

>>214223520
Illinois sure, California and New York, no. Hang on, you're gonna hit me with that chart the boomers have been passing around that Vermont and Delaware are unfairly gerrymandered are you?

>>214223573
>Democrats want to ban it except when they did it already

>>214223514
Literal bullshit. Democrats only ever win when they gerrymandering and all the "independent" distracting organizations they use also just "happen" to be ran by left wing people. Purely a coincidence I imagine

>>214223576
Yeah it truly is amazing the party of illegal aliens and voting without ID cling to the popular vote lmao

>>214223576
Can't wait until Democrats win the EC without winning the popular vote, almost happened last time lel

>>214223648
Newscum already let the cat out of the bag that they let illegals vote since California doesn't check for ID during elections when whined about Trump deporting them

>>214223671
>almost happened last time

>Trump had 100 more electoral votes than Cumala

>>214223613
Wyoming and Alaska are unfairly gerrymandered.

>>214223085
Your enemies have been using government power against you successfully for 80 years, it’s the single most effective weapon, but you can’t use it against them in return, otherwise………they’ll just continue to use it against you?

>>214223682
No matter how many poop maps you bring up, your red states will never stop being subsidized by us.

>>214221209
They're not saying zero state, just not expansion for the sake of it.

I don't know why people who readily admit the govt. is inefficient, inept, and corrupt also wish it had more money and more power bestowed upon it.

Like what?

>I'm a real conservative
I don't know what that means. I don't even know what conservative means. And neither do you.
>Is this the board for this?
No, this is not the board for this.

>>214223644
they already run the California electoral commission and its still not enough for them
Democrats are simply an evil party who changes the rules whenever they don't get their way see:
> the Gavinmander
>Court packing
>abolish electoral college
>trying to ban recalls
>banning needing an ID to vote

>>214223753
>red states will never stop being subsidized by us
kek
brown people actually believe this

>>214223753
Left wingers are by far the biggest wasters of tax payer money what are you even on about

>>214223762
You just won the popular vote, you clearly can do so. Why are you still afraid of getting rid of the Electoral College? Especially with modern elections and media there's no problem with getting rid of it.

I am feeling like a real FEMINIAZI!!AAARGH! I am being a feminazi all up in this bored. Now, define "feminazi"!

>>214223796
Are you certified fucking retarded? The EC is literally makes the country 'the united states' you dumbass

>>214223796
You can't have a pure popular vote without voter id's and paper ballots
every state should be as fast as Indiana, California takes two months to cheat

>>214218048
>Environmentalism is good
>Animal rights are good
These are conservative values, they just come with
*Within reason
An idea that liberals are allergic to

>>214223796
Its even more pathetic that dems want to ban the EC seeing as the claimed its racist to ask about citizenship for the census and that directly leads to the amount of representatives and EC votes you get

>>214223003
tyvm for proving my point

>>214223150
>Oh my god you're actually a fucking libertarian.
Yes. Are you triggered?
>How does it feel knowing the majority of Americans are diametrically opposed to you?
Vindicated because most Americans are retarded.
>>214223208
lmao you people are no different than the left on economics. THAT'S what's happening here.

I remember when political "debates" online were exciting when I was 19...

>>214223825
>These are conservative values, except when we tear them down at every single opportunity

>>214223120
>When you grow up and learn economics, you'll become right wing again

I don't know why people say this. From what I've seen, most economics professors are Democrats who oppose price controls but support social programs

>>214223796
Because you need a constitutional amendment and good luck getting small states to give up their power and having rule over to large faggot states

>>214223859
I'm more concerned with keeping shitskins out of my country than making line go up for corpos

>>214223937
Most professors are fucking retards who will parrot anything for tenure and live outside reality. Anybody that actually has a job and works for a living should be right wing economically. I get so much fucking money taken out of my checks for so much pointless and useless bullshit its infuriating

>>214223953
You just had an election where small state voters all pushed against the rule of the large states.

>>214217767 (OP)
>limited government,
vote for me so I can do nothing and act as a placeholder until the other guys get voted back in and use the authority of the state to ram it even further up your ass

>>214223937
Almost every left leaning "economics" professor has been shown to be retarded too. Meanwhile the Austrian school still reigns supreme

>>214223298
you're a larping ICE pussy at best who wears a mask behind a group of other guys at the home depot. At absolute best

>>214223937
>most economics professors are Democrats
Because the state funds universities which biases universities towards schools of economics that favor the state. It's pretty much that simple.

>>214224034
nta but please, by all means, keep defending illegals so the right wing can keep even more of the tax payer vote

>>214224060
immigration approval has skyrocketed under this admin. It turns out that larping as tough guys while wearing the masks you shit your panties about during covid wasn't the most popular solution to immigration woes

>>214223991
That's the point. The electoral college ensures larger states can't bully the smaller ones

>>214224100
hahahahahaha according to fucking who? Reddit's front page? You're delusional

>>214224100
People just don't like seeing how the sausage is made. If social media weren't recording everyone all the time no one would be seeing these deportations and people would love it.

>>214224100
Legal immigration, not illegal. You retards always ignore the caveat and I personally think the poll is bullshit since it's by pew who also said Cumala was going to win the election

>>214224048
no, it's because conservatives generally speaking have low, ape like IQs. They obsess over trannies and browns. They can barely understand how to manage their way out of a trailer park, much less macro economics

>>214217767 (OP)
>>214217927
Reminder that the "men" who hate anarchy as a governmental concept are the same "men" who can't change a tire, hunt, or find a woman who isn't a social-media-addicted harpy.

Libertarianism or even outright anarchy is only for real men who don't mind holding up the burden of life without a big daddy gubmint to do most of the heavy lifting. Sure you still rely on others in your local community under libertarian principles - but everyone contributes to the greater good of society through their own hard work and profession (or child rearing / woman stuff, for the women.)

Funny enough, libertarians are the "real" commies. It's hilarious, the idea that you need a strong central government so that communities of people can live self-sufficient, free lives. How does that even make sense?

>>214224149
>t. works at subway

>>214224149
>conservatives obsesse over the people shitting up the country

You don't say? That's a major reason why they won and you lost

>>214224131
>Replace all of the Mexicans who mowed my lawn and kept quiet out of fear of being deported with Indians who buy up all of the houses and try to haggle at Costco
Gee. Thanks.

>>214224100
actually it remains Trump's most popular issue

>>214224202
His ONLY popular issue, basically.

>>214224180
Indian immigration is down too retard. They all have to go

>>214224210
Getting rid of fed tax on OT and tax on tips, getting rid of CAFE standards, and suppressors being recategorized are also highly popular

>>214224210
Nope, he's gotten a big boost on crime too since deploying the Nasty Girls to DC

>>214223541
The difference is that that's the exception, while leftists calling cons nazis is the standard playbook that's taught to budding high school leftists.

>>214224149
Conservative economist vs leftist economist.
The conservative economist always wins.
Left wing economists don't even believe in supply and demand.
Leftists don't even believe in evolution, you expect them to understand concepts like why price controls are bad? lol

>>214224202
sure, but approval of immigration in general has surged.

Also, Trump has done a dog shit job of pretty much everything else. He's also a dying retarded fat pedophile

>>214217767 (OP)
>I'm a real conservative
>That's why I'm against women owning firearms
>I'll even outright lie about statistics, saying that a gun is not an effective means of self defense when every real statistic shows otherwise
based?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkGmJnKM7Y

>>214224300
Oh please
You guys called Obama, Biden, Hillary, and Kamala commies too
Spare me your victimhood complex

>>214224301
Is that why Dems fix the economy every cycle after Cletus get their turn at running everything into the ground?

How do you fucking retards manage to inflate the deficit while simultaneously managing to do nothing of value with it every single time? Oh right, tax cuts for people with 100x your Wal Mart salary.

>>214224308
I hope you know the mass majority of people do not look at reddit's front page for their dose of reality. You should try it out some time

>>214224346
When has that ever fucking happened? The Dems are responsible for the largest wealth transfer to the rich in this country's history with their covid cultist lockdown shit

>>214224346
Is this where we pretend the Biden shitshow economy never happened?

And no democrat president had ever had a good economy with a Democrat house and senate. Only whe. There's a republican house and senate keeping their retardation in check I.E Clinton

>>214220607
While the Democrats are the party of the super rich and desperately poor. The desperately poor need every hand out they can get and have a black market economy you can see people selling on the streets of New York Los Angeles. The super rich who can insulate themselves from the consequences of their own ideology. It's the middle classes who get squeezed

>>214217861
Take them over baby murder enthusiasts
Not that there's a difference given their propensity for it

>>214224238
No tax on tips or overtime is a complete rugpull

>>214224244
you can tell cause newsom started to push anti crime positions (despite not putting any money into prop 36) and Mayor Bowser praised trump
its very easy to tell what dems internal polling says

>>214224389
Is this where we pretend that conservatives understand the economy?

>>214224427
huh?

>>214217927
Please die soon

>>214224389
>Trump prints money like there's no tomorrow because he couldn’t put together a coherent COVID response
>How could Biden do this?

>>214224389
>what is covid
>what is every other economy in the world

sorry Cletus but Biden inherited a shit economy during a pandemic and managed to turn it around decently at the end. Just remember that the current fat retard is inflating prices again as we speak and it could have been avoided

>>214224389
or obama
coincidentally both of them had 6 years of the GOP ruling congress
so its not Democrat (or republican presidents) who make the economy good, its the republicans in the house

>>214224387
Conservatives talk like this and wonder why no one takes them seriously

>>214224470
Damn someone who doesn't get their news from YouTube and Facebook screenshots on /tv/

>>214224476
Glad the GOP is telling every deficit hawk to shut the fuck up now so we can have the greatest military in the world pick up trash everywhere.

>>214224470
>>214224472
>its Trumps fault the Democrats locked their states down for 19 months while praising BLM protests
>>214224481
Sorry but that was reality cult boy

>>214224447
>Only lasts for three years (the tax cuts for the wealthy are permanent)
>Caps out
>Only for certain occupations
>Is a tax credit, not a lack of tax in the first place

>>214224387
yeah Dems are the "cultists". How's your Trump diaper and ear tampon?

by the way, who initiated the first lockdowns? Who did operation warp speed? I forget

>>214224519
>It's blue states fault Trump literally printed money to try to bribe people
Bush did that right before 2008 and it made the Great Recession worse

>>214224442
They quite literally do considering every Democrat president leaves a mess for a epu license president to cleanup

>>214224519
You are actually a lunatic
Like, a straight up crazy person who belongs in an asylum

>>214224514
nigga all the military does is pick up trash
especially the national guard

>>214224519
My red state had lockdowns out the wazoo, gotta look out for those boomer voters of theirs

>>214223893
People act like liberals and conservatives even exist

when its race, gender, and urbanites vs suburbanites

>>214224543
It's the other way around you retard

>>214224472
Covid lock downs ended a year after and sleepy only made a bad situation worse on top of importing millions of shitskins who then squeezed the housing and job market

>>214223150
>Aren't you demoralized that people raised to hate you while LARPing as Bolsheviks are following their conditioning?
Not really. Are you retarded or something?

>>214224537
Trump never initiated any lockdown you retard, and operation Warp Speed happened because Dems said they wouldnt open their states without a vaccine
>>214224545
Wow, reality must be terrifying for you

>>214224560
Didn't even work, COVID changed my stereotype of old boomer voters completely. I now assume they're all crazy MSNBC viewers whereas before I thought they were Rush Limbaugh listeners

>>214224470
Why do all of these economic time bombs never seem to go off while Republicans are president? Obama was blaming his economy on Bush, and Biden was blaming it on Trump

>>214224570
Literally the first debate question between trump and Biden in 2024 was over the horrible economy you clown

>>214224570
Biden sure as hell left a shitshow for Trump to cleanup, as did Obama.

>>214224588
>Wow, reality must be terrifying for you
In reality, conservatives have a meltdown when you say Trump is a pedophile within earshot of them

>>214224588
you are in tears right now lying to yourself on a basket weaving forum. I just want you to know that if you had kids Trump wouldn't even care enough about you to rape them on an island

>>214224606
Bush genuinely did wreck the economy, but Biden was coping

>>214224611
>>214224615
Re
Tards

>>214224346
>Is that why Dems fix the economy every cycle
They don't though.
Also you're retarded if you think dem and republican policies are radically different

>>214217767 (OP)
I only fuck around with imps that have evolved into an individualism float. One on one with environment is what is needed to snap their minds into relating to each other.

>>214224606
>The Great Recession

>>214224616
You've all been saying the same redditor shit for almost 10 years now. Nobody cares about your fag filled subreddits

>>214224149
Actually, the average Republican IQ is 103 and the average Democrat IQ is 97. I'm citing the 2014 study and you're vaguely alluding to the from the 80s you never actually read and just repeated the line about.
All this while higher education attendance still it's concentrated mainly with Democrats.
Gee, I wonder what that ten point reversal could mean?

>>214224699
If they don't care then why do they have a meltdown every time I say it to them?

>>214224560
And what state was this?

>>214224707
If conservatives are so smart then how did they get tricked into voting for a con-artist pedophile?

>>214224722
Maybe because your fantasies are just figments of your imagination?

>>214224748
It's not a fantasy, they get real mad about it every time, it's pretty funny

>>214224616
In reality, we've been calling Trump a likely pedophile since 2015 and voting for him anyways because there was greater and more certain evidence of the people running against him being pedophiles which you are already aware of and choose to ignore because you yourself don't care at all about the safety of kids, you're just a psychopathic partisan Bolshevik.

I just got this hat in the mail, and I don't know who it will make more mad.

>>214224765
>he says even though he never leaves his room

>>214224740
They just want whoever validated their hatred. Owning the libs really was the end goal with nothing thought out after that.

>>214224740
>see
>>214224768
You really should hang yourself. I'm glad you got defunded and I look forward to your suicide.

>>214224481
It was the biggest wealth transfer in generations
https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/pandemic-creates-new-billionaire-every-30-hours-now-million-people-could-fall
There was a new billionaire formed every 30 hours of lockdown, while there was thousands of small businesses shutting down every 30 hours of lockdown, with millions being brought to the edge of poverty
https://youtu.be/olrO0RDu8SY?
The enforcement of lockdowns wasn't impartial. It benefited the wealthy who got special privileges while small businesses got crushed. The more stringent the lockdowns like in California and New York, the more they got crushed

>>214224768
The last time Americans had the option to elect a socialist without primary rigging they hated it so much they elected him four times lmao

>>214224793
Owning the libs isn't difficult at all. A 5 year old can ruin their entire ideology

>>214224768
Why didn't you ask for Joe Biden to release the list then? He was President the last 4 years.

>>214217767 (OP)
OP is..... based?

>>214224812
Rednecks famously love socialism when you don’t tell them it’s socialism

>>214224166
Governments (at least, functional governments) don't exist to protect Judge Holden, they exist to protect women and children from Judge Holden. Standing armies guard cities so that the Glanton Gang can't just scalp and rape everyone weaker than them on a whim living inside.

>>214224969
Not really, it's just that normal people don't like taxes being taken out of their checks for bullshit

>>214225021
Actually, they do, if they can see the results and it isn't just wasted on email jobs for minorities. People are fine if it funds a new library, not 200 HR jobs running committees

>>214224812
And almost everything he did was ruled unconstitutional. Funny how that works, bragging about a president who's only claim to fame is getting millions killed and creating a welfare state crippling the country

>>214224787
Nice projection buddy

>>214224768
>In reality, we've been calling Trump a likely pedophile since 2015 and voting for him anyways
This isn't the "own" that you think it is lmfao

>>214225061
Wait are you fucking retards still acting like COVID wasn't 100% bullshit?

>>214225061
>Bragging about a president who won the worst war the world had ever seen and ushered in five straight decades of average Americans living beyond the wildest dreams of the most prosperous monarchs
>Bragging about a guy who managed to claw back a country that was one or two rail strikes away from a communist revolution
FDR was the best president we ever had simply because he prevented us from falling into full on communism, people don't realize how close we were.

>>214225021
The polls in favor of Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, and the state online portals administering said service are all quite different.

>>214224707
no I mean the average conservative is observably retarded. They can barely function. You can post a photoshop of Sasquatch fucking an alien and they will believe it if they think the libs dislike it

>>214225158
It’s a golden rule for conservatives to absolutely detest everything that made their precious idyllic 1950s possible, including the New Deal and winning the war

>>214225198
While libs only believes lies if they come from an expert, a multinational group or politician.

>>214225197
I don't really need to rely on polls since I myself observed healthcare costs greatly increase after it was implemented
>>214225198
Here in reality most "conservatives" you hate are normal middle class people who think youre fuckin weird. The main voter base for the Dems are inner city folks that cant read past a 3rd grade level

>>214225261
this dumb nigga doesn't even know what preliminary means

>>214225289
I guess I don't know what 15 days to flatten the curve means either

>>214225272
>Here in reality most "conservatives" you hate are normal middle class people who think youre fuckin weird
The people in a cult think others are weird? Shocking

>>214225326
>the middle class is a cult
Huh? You people think 3 year olds can be transgender

>>214225158
America had no reason to join a foreign war and FDR didn't win shit. Germany was already on the ropes by the time the US joined the European campaign and he was dead when Japan surrendered. Truman then let the Soviets run amuck so another Democrat caused another shit show that would cost more American lives in Korea and Vietnam

>>214225272
you aren't normal though. You're normal in your own little communities of stupid hicks that think hurricanes are made by machines and Trump is a real Christian.

See: the little town that just killed its own children because they were too stupid to accept emergency funding from the Biden admin that would have allowed for additional alarms in the area in case of flood

>>214225347
You got brainwashed into being a pedophile who thinks about children's genitals, hahaha what a retard

>>214225323
which Democrat politician is that behind Fauci? Looks familiar

>>214225376
Nobody knows what weird ass redditor shit youre talking about
>>214225399
>we think children can be trans and dance around 11 year old little boy drag queens but youre the one obsessed
Sure thing weirdo

>>214225399
https://youtu.be/ydYxocpZ0kM?
Didn't you vote for an old pedophile 5 years ago?

>>214225439
another conservative that doesn't know about a major flood in their own country while knowing every little detail about 11 year old boys and trannies

>>214224740
>You can vote for the pedophile who wants to fuck 8 year olds and flood the country with illegal and legal immigrants
OR
>You can vote for the pedophile who wants to fuck 13 year olds and flood the country legal immigrants while removing the illegal immigrants
O SAY CAN YOU SEE

>>214225482
Nah I just don't get spoonfed nonsense from r/news like you do

>>214225439
Conservatives can't stop talking about children's genitals because they're a bunch of psycho pedophiles

>>214225519
>stop pointing out that we believe and politicized "childhood sexuality!"

>>214225551
Conservatives are absolutely obsessed with the genitals of children, it's all they talk about

>>214225593
>t. isn't allowed within 100 yards of a school or park

>>214225616
Conservatives just can't stop bringing up children's genitals completely unprompted
They are obsessed

>>214225672
No but seriously stay away from kids you freak

>>214225519
>>214225593
Why do you think Joe Biden and the Democrats are obsessed with trannies?
https://www.them.us/story/biden-state-of-the-union-trans-rights
https://x.com/WhiteHouse46/status/1774481786749202565
https://x.com/POTUS46Archive/status/1641798763390943232
https://x.com/POTUS46Archive/status/1859388244015677874
https://x.com/POTUS46Archive/status/1796919635675173065
Donald Trump never shouted out trannies in his state of the Union. He never hosted "trans day of visibility" at the White house like Biden did during Easter.

>>214225717
I'm not Trump or your father

>>214217767 (OP)
>tax cuts, limited government, and judicial restraint
None of those are conservative in any way. That's just liberalism.

>>214221600
it becomes a flaw when we get successive governments of worse and worse politicians because now its even harder to course correct

>>214217861
>roe v wade passes in the 70s
>since then then every other group, including niggers, have grown as a percentage of the population while whites have shrunk

>>214224780
this shitlib about to get sucker punched by an illiterate nigger lol