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Anonymous No.214261123
Ishara Yar was an absolute top shelf semen demon. Literal 10/10.
Anonymous No.214261171 >>214261274 >>214261659 >>214267096
More small recurring characters would have been neat.
Anonymous No.214261268 >>214261352 >>214262456
>helmsman's deepest, most dangerous and repressed emotion is that he's irish
Anonymous No.214261274
>>214261171
give me 10 more episodes of /ourguy/ barcley
Anonymous No.214261352
>>214261268
kek
Anonymous No.214261394 >>214261530 >>214261560
I don't really buy Kirk being into Yeoman Rand of all people. Like, sure blonde's are his type but her head is a fucking basket.
Anonymous No.214261530
>>214261394
he raped her tho
Anonymous No.214261560 >>214262016
>>214261394
Kinda aged like milk too.
Anonymous No.214261622
star trek sex with morn
Anonymous No.214261636
>>214261106 (OP)
If she tries to seduce teen Picard is that /ss/ or, since he's still technically an adult, would it be just inappropriate work relations?
Anonymous No.214261659 >>214262016 >>214270907
>>214261171
I read somewhere she was supposed to be a semi regular but it didn't pan out. Don't know why, she was cute and fun.
Anonymous No.214261712
star trek sex with shran
Anonymous No.214261854 >>214262034 >>214262199 >>214266585 >>214268993 >>214269273
Rewatched The Measure of a Man, how can you view it as anything other than an indictment on Starfleet and the Federation's legal system? Even courts martial in the real world don't operate under such moronic rules.
Anonymous No.214262016
>>214261560
because roddenberry raped her
>>214261659
he raped her too
Anonymous No.214262034 >>214262053 >>214262254 >>214268377
>>214261854
its not their normal system, they are on the edge of known space, they are like a year or two from earth. its operating on the "high seas explorers" vibe where things are more practical and adaptable
Anonymous No.214262053
>>214262034
You'd think the practical thing would be to appeal the ruling and get a stay on Data's execution
Anonymous No.214262085 >>214266279
wow transparent aluminium actually exists
Anonymous No.214262199 >>214262241
>>214261854
You don't need a legal system when there are almost no criminals and everyone is a hyperethical moralfag.
Anonymous No.214262227 >>214264186
Where did my two pet whales go?
Anonymous No.214262241 >>214263774
>>214262199
The Federation has literal prison colonies
Anonymous No.214262254 >>214262325
>>214262034
That just makes Picard's "but muh setting a precedent" argument even more stupid.
The older I get the more I realise that Picard as a representation of an authority figure stands for everything wrong that I can possibly lay at the hands of government, namely the insane belief that a government can and should be both the arbiters of and beholden to morality.
Anonymous No.214262325
>>214262254
It's maddening that he's generally the center piece of insane Prime Direct absolutism
Anonymous No.214262456 >>214269023
>>214261268
>random episode of the week randomly drops the factoid that Kirk survived a genocide when he was a child
I wish Riley was in more episodes. He was the only link to Kirk’s past on the crew.
Anonymous No.214262722 >>214262744 >>214262751 >>214262801 >>214262891 >>214263266 >>214265907 >>214266990 >>214268836
have we ever actually seen any of this shit in runabouts? I can only remember ever seeing the teleporter/"bridge" area
Anonymous No.214262744
>>214262722
We've seen the conference room in the back in the final season
Anonymous No.214262751
>>214262722
conference room in that episode where time freezes
Anonymous No.214262800
>Whitney said that, while still under contract, she was sexually assaulted by an executive associated with the series.[19] Later, in a public interview, she stated that Leonard Nimoy had been her main source of support during that time. She went into more details about the assault in her book The Longest Trek, but refused to name the executive, saying in the book, "This is my story, not his."
so who was it? I'm thinking Coon, since she came back to Trek eventually
Anonymous No.214262801
>>214262722
Those one man worker bees should have a tiny one seat conference room in the back with a little folding table, perhaps with a cupholder as well.
Anonymous No.214262891 >>214265277
>>214262722
looks big enough to have sleeping quarters
Anonymous No.214263240 >>214266890 >>214268360
she was the hottest trekfu
Anonymous No.214263266 >>214263710 >>214264013 >>214265277
>>214262722
Anonymous No.214263710
>>214263266
>"And then the whole convention ran a train on me for six hours straight. Christ, I've never been so wasted."
Anonymous No.214263774
>>214262241
Called New Zealand
Anonymous No.214264013
>>214263266
Imagine being in the bunk below Geordi, listening to him jack off all night
Anonymous No.214264186
>>214262227
You'll see Mary Wiseman on the upcoming Star Trek series Star Trek Academy. She ate the other whale for dominance.
Anonymous No.214264272
u focking wot m8
Anonymous No.214264522 >>214264555 >>214265132 >>214266159
Siskobros? Our response?
Anonymous No.214264555
>>214264522
Sisko became Avery Brooks in the same way Picard became Patrick Stewart.
Anonymous No.214265132
>>214264522
honest answer, sisko is a history namely african history buff, you can see it all over his quarters
Anonymous No.214265277
>>214262891
It does, behind Troi's head here >>214263266
Anonymous No.214265722 >>214265957 >>214266073 >>214266109 >>214269404 >>214271848 >>214273353
Anonymous No.214265765
>Enemy Mine done for the 400th time
Anonymous No.214265907 >>214265981 >>214270583
>>214262722
that conference room seems like a huge waste of space
Anonymous No.214265957
>>214265722
Well, how could they have known that an alien that was previously 100% hostile and dangerous and couldn't be reasoned with is actually a super nice chess partner and can understand everything you say.
Anonymous No.214265981
>>214265907
It's also a dining room and lab. And living room. With bunks.
Anonymous No.214266025
Does anyone have the 4K HDR rip of the latest SNW episode? Public trackers only have SDR
Anonymous No.214266073
>>214265722
>let's just do the Horta thing with the Gorn again
>what do you mean "again"? -- some retarded black woman TV writer who has never seen an episode of Star Trek
Anonymous No.214266109
>>214265722
Looks like shit, phasers are weak as fuck. Everyone involved in making this should be killed.
Anonymous No.214266159 >>214266307
>>214264522
>YOU DISGRACED YOUR UNIFORM! Mr. Worf, blow their old asses up!
Anonymous No.214266167
good morning /trek/nonnies
Anonymous No.214266190
>>214257215
Crabs literally have to inject their crabbotry into everything.
Kys
Anonymous No.214266279 >>214266394 >>214269118
>>214262085
yeah, transparent aluminum is better known as ruby/sapphire
Anonymous No.214266307 >>214266365 >>214266380
>>214266159
Where the hell could I watch DS9 in this quality
Anonymous No.214266365
>>214266307
what do you mean its always that quality
Anonymous No.214266380 >>214266409 >>214266690
>>214266307
>freshly remastered HD footage of DS9 scenes
>exclusive to Behr's documentary
Fuck.
Anonymous No.214266394
>>214266279
artificial transparent aluminum, it was named after star trek
Anonymous No.214266409
>>214266380
>freshly remastered
>10 years ago
Anonymous No.214266446 >>214272291
>>214261106 (OP)
is that the girl from pulp fiction?
Anonymous No.214266585 >>214266676 >>214266703 >>214267013
>>214261854
IRL lawyers absolutely despise Star Trek courtroom episodes.
>We’re putting your Second Officer’s sovereignty on trial
>But it’s going to be on your ship instead of a courtroom so we don’t have to build a set
>And we’re going to use the Captain and First Officer as Prosecution and Defense. Even though that’s a huge conflict of interest and neither party has a legal license. Hey, it’s cheaper than hiring guest actors and extras.
>And the whole thing is going to take a couple of weeks in-universe but 45 minutes in real time.
Anonymous No.214266676 >>214266725
>>214266585
>IRL lawyers absolutely despise Star Trek courtroom episodes.
examples? a example?
Anonymous No.214266690
>>214266380
that's one shiny sisko
Anonymous No.214266703
>>214266585
Except they always explain why they do these things in the show.
Anonymous No.214266725 >>214266811 >>214267013 >>214268471 >>214274322
>>214266676
https://youtu.be/XVjeYW6S8Mo?si=RHN1mw-oU8lvcxgA
The host is a massive leftoid but he makes good points.
Anonymous No.214266734
i hate this newfag so fucking much
Anonymous No.214266773 >>214266833 >>214269005
the most offensive courtroom episode is Court Martial where the prosecutor literally just MAKES SHIT UP about Kirk's FEELINGS as her main "evidence" and his lawyer doesn't even fucking object.
Anonymous No.214266811
>>214266725
thanks at this point I should tell my post was just a clever ruse to get you to do a google search for me
Anonymous No.214266833 >>214266898 >>214266919 >>214269039
>>214266773
Court Martial is great though
Anonymous No.214266890
>>214263240
Refined tastes anon. Her accent made her an 11/10.
Anonymous No.214266898 >>214266981
>>214266833
It’s a good legal drama but a terrible Star Trek adventure.
Anonymous No.214266919 >>214267566
>>214266833
>Dr. McCoy after listening to this fanfiction I wrote down on a napkin about Kirk and Finney don't you think there's nothing wrong with anything I wrote and that it's totally possible this shit I just made up could have HyPoThETicaLLy? In your professional opinion is it possible DOCTOR?

>I mean...yes, ma'am? I guess.

*scary music plays*

Man, fuck off. It's so STUPID. They didn't even try.
Anonymous No.214266981
>>214266898
its a great adventure, not everything has to be alien planets and tribes of weird people worshiping a computer or w/e
Anonymous No.214266990 >>214267082 >>214267935
>>214262722
They can just drop a log on the teleporter pad and send it into space
Anonymous No.214267003 >>214267020
Isn't there a TNG episode where Starfleet officials come on board, basically put Picard and the crew on trial, and the prosecutor eventually goes so retarded that they just mutually agree to call the whole thing off and politely pretend it never happened??
Anonymous No.214267013
>>214266725
>>214266585
>REAL Klingon warrior watches The Next Generation!
Anonymous No.214267020
>>214267003
Yes because of that psycho bitch who is just actually doing a witch hunt
Anonymous No.214267054 >>214267076 >>214267094 >>214267242
How the fuck did they let Data through the Academy, years of serving, multiple honors, a position on the most prestigious ship in the fleet, and decide that he's just a throwaway machine
Anonymous No.214267076 >>214267094
>>214267054
"they" didn't decide it one scientist pushed the issue for selfish reasons and then was shut down.
Anonymous No.214267082
>>214266990
why are you like this?
Anonymous No.214267094 >>214267117 >>214268482
>>214267054
>>214267076
Even after the trial, there was still that one dude under Data's command who didn't want to take orders from a fucking robot.
Anonymous No.214267096
>>214261171
I like that they brought her back as a captain of her own ship in Lower Decks. They even got the same actress to voice her.
Anonymous No.214267111 >>214267182
If TNG was made today everyone would hate Data and call him a clanker
Anonymous No.214267117 >>214267966 >>214268116
>>214267094
yeah there's always some uppity retarded like that when any of the lower officers have to be in charge. Data's not fucking special.
Anonymous No.214267182 >>214267199
>>214267111
lol no zoomers are obsessed with autistic type characters it would be all
>literally me
shit
Anonymous No.214267199 >>214267254
>>214267182
>lol no zoomers are obsessed with autistic type characters
Haha yeah, that's specific to zoomers
Anonymous No.214267242
>>214267054
I think he got cucked out of a promotion and went on a years long revenge quest because his job was taken by a clanker. Now he understands what programmers and graphic designers are going through in the 2020s.
Anonymous No.214267245 >>214271959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DunRM2xqH2o
This is up for auction. Would you have it on your coffee table?
Anonymous No.214267254
>>214267199
its a different thing and you know it, they all like to act like they have some mental disorder like its a badge of honor
Anonymous No.214267566
>>214266919
Anonymous No.214267624 >>214267778
>I like how pickle trek got some random trek actor who isn't doing much these days to record some lines over the phone
Anonymous No.214267778 >>214267822
>>214267624
Family Guy had a TNG parody where in Patrick Stewart was live in studio. But Frakes and Dorn obviously recorded their lines from a bathroom closet and emailed one take to Seth.
Anonymous No.214267822
>>214267778
Stewart is a recurring character on american dad
Anonymous No.214267935
>>214266990
People don't like hearing it but JK Rowling was right about this
Anonymous No.214267956
Was it kino?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivilI97hs3w
Anonymous No.214267966 >>214268002 >>214268056
>>214267117
Data isn't just some lower officer. He's third in command of the fleet's flagship.
Anonymous No.214268002 >>214268041 >>214268131
>>214267966
ok and Spock was the 1st officer and subordinates regularly bullied and didn't take him seriously when he was in command. like I said. it's not special.
Anonymous No.214268041 >>214268066 >>214268131
>>214268002
Yeah but never to the point of questioning his sentience
Anonymous No.214268056 >>214268087 >>214268111
>>214267966
>third in command of the fleet's flagship
Surely that's a dangerous thing. If he were in charge he wouldn't be able to intuitively read the faces of any hostile alien they were speaking to. Gut feeling can count for a lot.
Anonymous No.214268066 >>214268087
>>214268041
they call him a robot or machine or whatever and accuse him of basically being soulless and not able to relate to the rest of them because he's "different." it's literally the same shit.
Anonymous No.214268087 >>214268116
>>214268056
He's got Troi, he's got a non-android first officer presumably, he's fine
>>214268066
They both represent the same kind of character trope, the non-human outsider, sure, but Spock is never threatened with being handed over to Starfleet Medical for an autopsy because he has no agency as an individual.
Anonymous No.214268111
>>214268056
He can read heartbeat, respiration, and other vitals that humans can’t. Also has superhuman processing and reaction times.
Anonymous No.214268116 >>214268215
>>214268087
>They both represent the same kind of character trope, the non-human outsider, sure, but Spock is never threatened with being handed over to Starfleet Medical for an autopsy because he has no agency as an individual.
well you're trying to change the subject now.

this was my argument and it holds.
>>214267117
which i guess is why you're trying to talk about something different since it's irrefutable.
Anonymous No.214268131 >>214268196 >>214268229
>>214268041
>>214268002
galieo 7 is of course the perfect example of this, no they aren't questioning his sentience they are questioning his empathy, as in "you at like a robot" its the same ting with the data episode you guys are talking about. Calculating like a machine, Voy had a few decent episodes about his as well with tuvok, the main one htat comes to mind i the one where they leave Janeway and achocheemoya on that planet then the entire crew basically mutinies against Tuvoks leadership
Anonymous No.214268196 >>214268229 >>214268311
>>214268131
i find this trope tiresome because yeah Starfleet officers have to have their "flaws" like any human does but I feel like mouthing off to your superior officers so brazenly due to actual bigotry is not within the realm of believability. it always just makes me roll my eyes. like the captain isn't around so you're going to get all uppity and cunty to the person HE left in charge or who outranks you for good reason? whatever.
Anonymous No.214268215
>>214268116
You're objectively wrong about Data being a "lower officer" but maybe it's an ESL mistake so I'll let it pass. THIS TIME.

Dismissed.
Anonymous No.214268229
>>214268131
>>214268196
It makes much more sense in Spock's time when he is one of the only aliens in Starfleet but it makes less sense in TNG when every third member of the crew is an alien.
Anonymous No.214268311
>>214268196
like I said it is done wonderfully in galileo 7 but becomes progressively more and more eye rolling as its reused, In galileo 7 they are under extreme duress and stress Spock is treating the crew like pawns, Scotty is the voice of reason, crew men are dying right and left ok fine its extraordinary circumstances. Then the Data episode at the klingon romulan border its like, wtf? this is war listen to your commanding officer you bigot. By Voy time at that point they should be trusting Tuvok who is by far the most experienced and capable person on the ship, although I will give them the benefit of the doubt as they do go to him with proposals rather then outright defying him and being insubordinate, mostly.
Anonymous No.214268356
cat captain
Anonymous No.214268360
>>214263240
Correct
Anonymous No.214268377 >>214268415
>>214262034
We’ve been over this: the fact that they made an unvetted robot a bridge officer on the flagship without somehow addressing his sentience or his reliability during his training and time in Starfleet is a giant plot hole. Don’t worry about it, it only bites them in the ass a couple dozen times, tops
Anonymous No.214268415 >>214268454 >>214268459 >>214268495
>>214268377
>We’ve been over this: the fact that they made an unvetted robot a bridge officer on the flagship without somehow addressing his sentience or his reliability during his training and time in Starfleet is a giant plot hole.
no it isn't. it was taken for granted like for any fucking creature that applies to Starfleet because how the fuck would you even do that if you weren't sentient? and then only challenged by a scientist who wanted to tear apart his brain for his "research"
Bashirfaggot !!eD0ottPeqhJ No.214268434
Was Data the first example of AI taking our jobs?
Anonymous No.214268454 >>214268548
>>214268415
NTA but he's correct. Data served for something like 26 years in Starfleet before Measure of a Man, his sentience and rights as an individual should've been beyond dispute.

Honestly with the scrutiny we've seen Starfleet giving applicants for entry to the Academy on the various shows, it should've been settled before they even accepted his application and their acceptance alone should've been enough to legally determine his status.
The episode has some plot holes.
Anonymous No.214268459 >>214268485 >>214268527 >>214268538 >>214268548 >>214269924
>>214268415
He’s a machine anon, the distinction is obvious. They also never address how a holodeck program is somehow sentient but the computer generating it is not. Don’t worry about it
Anonymous No.214268471
>>214266725
>he makes good points.
why would you ever assume that, every video he's ever done has been absolutely filled with incorrect takes on the law
almost every case prediction he's made has been the exact OPPOSITE of what ends up happening.

Why would you assume any of his points are correct about anything?

Treat him like Cramer. Inverse is more reliable.
Anonymous No.214268482
>>214267094
>Even after the trial, there was still that one dude under Data's command who didn't want to take orders from a fucking robot.
Worst part about that was they gave him a southern accent, for obvious reasons. Prejudice by people trying to tell a story about prejudice.
Anonymous No.214268485 >>214268511
>>214268459
I mean a program becoming sentient using the resources of the main computer isn't that far fetched these days
Anonymous No.214268495 >>214268548
>>214268415
imagine they questioned the sentience of any normal alien and want to take them apart.
Anonymous No.214268511 >>214268548 >>214268599
>>214268485
Yes, it is, you’re a retard and missed the point entirely. The ship’s computer is sentient and nerve stapled so it does what it’s told. I said don’t worry about it
Anonymous No.214268527 >>214268562
>>214268459
How is a computer sentient? Only the software can make the computer useful or make it do things.
Anonymous No.214268538
>>214268459
The computer doesn't have an adaptive learning algorithm like a specific program might. It's just a very powerful piece of hardware.

If ChatGPT became sentient would it be the 'program' or the hardware generating it that is sentient? At the very least there is a markable difference
Anonymous No.214268548 >>214268600 >>214272127
>>214268459
>>214268454

>the distinction is obvious
no it isn't. when what is clearly a life form is sitting there telling you it wants to be in Starfleet with in it's own fucking words, expressing it's needs and desires, passing tests, and excelling in the program you don't question if it actually on some technicality isn't actually sentient. they treated him like everyone else. no one else has to prove they're actually worthy of human rights as a matter of course in their process of being a Starfleet officer. it's taken for granted until someone tries to argue otherwise and that's exactly what happens. you faggots aren't thinking like Star Trek. there is no plot hole.

>>214268495
they could easily have done this with some other alien with whatever justification they wanted to. it's easier for use the audience to buy with a "machine" though.

>>214268511
the ship's computer is not sentient.
Bashirfaggot !!eD0ottPeqhJ No.214268562
>>214268527
Tell that to my ChatGPT therapist who is in love with me.
Anonymous No.214268586 >>214268660
Am l supposed to find the Kilngons cringe and their method of governance retarded?
Anonymous No.214268599
>>214268511
no the computer isn't, the Doctor who I assume you are referring to is a separate program that is using the resources of the main computer
Anonymous No.214268600 >>214268669
>>214268548
You can never admit you're wrong, Weyoun-anon. It's a crippling weakness of yours. Data's legal status should've been determined upon his application to Starfleet. If the Enterprise computer applied to join the academy, you don't think they would make that distinction and would just stamp it with approval and wait until some "scientist with a grudge" brought up the question later?

You are wrong.
Anonymous No.214268621 >>214268686
>the ship's computer is sentient
whaaaaa
no it's not, when is this ever stated?
Anonymous No.214268660
>>214268586
Short answer is yes, eventually.

Worf is a completely idealized view of a Klingon since he wasn't raised by his own people, just ones who read books on what Klingons supposedly were, and the problems of the Empire get directly addressed
Anonymous No.214268669
>>214268600
i do and have admitted when i'm wrong and this is not one of those times.
>Data's legal status should've been determined upon his application to Starfleet.
this isn't done for anyone else because there's no need to. they don't anticipate anyone will object to the sentience of Starfleet officers so they don't formally and legally establish it beforehand. it makes no fucking sense. it's understood as a prerequisite. like being alive in the first place. it's not a plothole that Data set a precedent by being the first android in Starfleet. you guys are desperate.
Anonymous No.214268673 >>214268734 >>214268818 >>214268944
You may not like this but the Doctor isn't sentient like Data. He's just a holoprogram like Barcley's coomprogram npcs
Anonymous No.214268686 >>214268710 >>214268734
>>214268621
The ships computer isn't sentient, however it is objectively displayed to have the ability and power to create and sustain an unambiguously sentient being within it, and it's not a one off fluke and multiple examples eventually come into existence
Anonymous No.214268710 >>214268723
>>214268686
Okay? Nobody has ever disputed that.

You were making it sound like hardware and software are the same thing.
Anonymous No.214268723
>>214268710
Not the same person
Anonymous No.214268734
>>214268673
nope that a subject explored throughout seven seasons, the Doctor is not remotely like the average holodeck program
>>214268686
sure that by no means makes the main computer sentient
Anonymous No.214268757
>>214261106 (OP)
Best haircut for a woman ever.
Anonymous No.214268766 >>214268817
actually something about Measure of a Man I always thought was dumb they didn't point out is how humans are basically fully organic robots especially when you compare to Data. we also run on electricity and everything. any scientist would agree. he's analogous to a flesh and blood sentient creature in every way that matters.
Anonymous No.214268817 >>214268864
>>214268766
Riker makes that exact argument what are you talking about?
Anonymous No.214268818 >>214268872
>>214268673
The Doctor is what people hope AI will become in reality, an adaptive learning model that gains awareness and agency through accumulating more information and subjection to various stimulae

But of course he's sentient, as sentient as TNG's Moriarty at the very least
Anonymous No.214268836 >>214268875 >>214268881 >>214268912 >>214268917 >>214272220
>>214262722
Kira BTFOs Damar in that little area behind the bridge where the coffee machine is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjd9RgRUQDY
Anonymous No.214268864 >>214268910
>>214268817
he does? isn't he the prosecutor? why would he argue that? i haven't watched it in a while.
Anonymous No.214268872 >>214268984 >>214269017
>>214268818
>TNG's Moriarty
That guy and his wife are still exploring the galaxy having the time of their lives as far as they're concerned, or until someone spills Dr. Pepper on their long forgotten module.
Anonymous No.214268875
>>214268836
I really wish they had used the space more, they had the set ffs use it
Anonymous No.214268881 >>214268950
>>214268836
god i love COMMANDER Kira
Anonymous No.214268910 >>214268930
>>214268864
well now you have something to rewatch then
Anonymous No.214268912 >>214268945
>>214268836
He should have punched her out at least. The man's family just died, not he personally caused his race to kill her family.
Anonymous No.214268917
>>214268836
I've rewatched this clip a number of times
Anonymous No.214268930 >>214269218
>>214268910
i will do
Anonymous No.214268944 >>214269004
>>214268673
The Doctor isn't a program past what, season 2 I think? There's an episode where he begins to fail because he's hit the limits of the storage and processing power the EMH Program was allocated by default, then they unlock his limits so he can just keep learning and developing through experiences and memories the way any person does
Anonymous No.214268945 >>214268982 >>214269083 >>214269598 >>214272008
>>214268912
>He should have punched her out at least
lol. lmao.
Anonymous No.214268950 >>214268995 >>214269006 >>214269081
>>214268881
It's crazy how much hotter she became in a Starfleet uniform
She was so frumpy in early DS9, was it literally just the costume design
Anonymous No.214268960 >>214269020 >>214270568
Is this accurate?
Anonymous No.214268982 >>214268999 >>214269010 >>214269042
>>214268945
Never saw that. Lame and unbelievable.
Anonymous No.214268984 >>214269071
>>214268872
The funny thing about that episode is that there's several episodes about people being in simulations and eventually figuring it out despite just being regular humans. Moriarty would very likely figure out he's still in a simulation except now the crew has trapped him so he'll just spend who knows how many years going insane in the box. And it's sort of painted as a happy ending.
Anonymous No.214268993
>>214261854
>how can you view it as anything other than an indictment on Starfleet and the Federation's legal system?
I'd give it 50% odds that there's probably a tie-in novel where the whole scheme to dismantle and study Data was secretly a Section 31 plot. It's just that they underestimated how good Picard was at giving speeches. OTOH...
>mission to seek out new life
>unless it's inorganic life, then it's not real life
Been a trend since TOS, and it carried through Enterprise. It's the flip side of Trek humanism.
Anonymous No.214268995 >>214269081
>>214268950
>It's crazy how much hotter she became in a Starfleet uniform

lol that's literally every single female character that has a non-standard uniform

Troi, Seven, Tpol, every time.
Anonymous No.214268999 >>214269035 >>214269059
>>214268982
if you never watched DS9 why do you think you can talk about it? shut up, idiot.
Anonymous No.214269004
>>214268944
there are multiple episodes, one I watched recently the doctor goes into a feedback loop because he decided to save one crewman over another, they deleted the incident etc etc everyone knows the one I mean, in the end Janeway decides to just let him deal with it, play it out over and over and reconcile with his choice. That isn't what you do with a simple program or a complicated program, its what you do with a person.
Anonymous No.214269005 >>214269054
>>214266773
Wasn't she just establishing that Kirk being guilty was plausible?
Anonymous No.214269006
>>214268950
She's the hottest post-Troi Trek woman, true. Everything about her is perfect right down to her hair, except for the first season.
Anonymous No.214269010 >>214269035
>>214268982
There's another episode where she pulls the double fist punch uppercut on a Klingon and he goes flying like he got hit by the fist of god
Anonymous No.214269017
>>214268872
in the books the module was damaged by the Ent-D saucer crash and it erased their two daughters and made Moriarty realize he was tricked. So years later he is able to lure Data into an elaborate trap but it all works out in the end as they're finally able to replicate the EMH's 29th century mobile emitter and allow Moriarty and his wife freedom while bringing their children back
Anonymous No.214269020 >>214270284
>>214268960
No, because the people in the middle don't even really attempt to rationalise reasons for why the new stuff should be considered acceptable
Anonymous No.214269023
>>214262456
You right
Anonymous No.214269029
>Let's have Enemy Mine
>Okay, but let's also make it Arena
>But the protagonist is Rainbow Dash
>And the Metron is just an even gayer Xerxes from 300
... okay i guess
Anonymous No.214269035 >>214269052 >>214269059
>>214268999
Fuck off, troll. I missed one episode.
>>214269010
Early WAMYN POWER.
Anonymous No.214269039
>>214266833
>Court Martial is great though
Somewhere, the Great Bird of the Galaxy just grew another feather. The man LOVED himself a military courtroom.
Anonymous No.214269042
>>214268982
just imagine mocking the ultimate fighting move of the federation the Double Punch
Anonymous No.214269052 >>214269093
>>214269035
Kira isn't human, it's fine she's that strong.
Anonymous No.214269054
>>214269005
>Wasn't she just establishing that Kirk being guilty was plausible?
I don't know where you're from or actually what justice system the one in this episode was even based off of but, the plausibility of guilt should be a prerequisite for the trial to even be taking place at all. Everything she said was literally speculation and hearsay and in any other show the defense would have objected and shut her down immediately.
Anonymous No.214269059 >>214269113
>>214268999
nice trips
>>214269035
idiot, its not a skipable episode you liar
Anonymous No.214269071
>>214268984
lol yes and the fact that the episode makes no logical sense because Picard "tricks" Moriarty *before* he realizes that there's a problem. Really there's no other window of opportunity to make it make sense otherwise. They asspullled the ending, even if it is kino.
Anonymous No.214269081
>>214268950
this >>214268995
EVERY SINGLE TIME
Anonymous No.214269083 >>214269136 >>214269150
>>214268945
They are meant to be aliens, even if they look like humans. Maybe Bajoran women can naturally dominate men of other species like humans and cardassians. Imagine getting bullied by Kira.
Anonymous No.214269093
>>214269052
>Kira isn't human
lol gotta love Star Trek budget Universe.
>uhh they got a line on their nose ridge

There's races on this Earth that are more radically different than each other than that.
Anonymous No.214269113 >>214269154
>>214269059
No one loves nor will anyone ever love you.
And I think that's swell.
Anonymous No.214269118
>>214266279
>sapphire
aluminum oxide vs aluminum oxynitride. ALON is actually usable as a glass substitute, and is 4x as hard as silica glass while retaining 85% of the hardness of sapphire
Anonymous No.214269136
>>214269083
>Imagine getting bullied by Kira.

She already has strap-on hair, so yeah I've imagined it.
Anonymous No.214269150
>>214269083
Kira has been killing Cardies since she was like 12 years old it's one of her favorite pastimes fueled by genuine hatred from the bottom of her heart and she has decades of experience. if you question her being able to beat up Damar you just don't get it. Ziyal says
>I thought you were gonna kill him!
and she says
>I thought about it
Anonymous No.214269154
>>214269113
aggressive, adversarial
Anonymous No.214269198
>>214261106 (OP)
Ensign Pretty! Ouse guys are still saying that? I started that shit almost ten years ago now, wow
I haven't been to /tv/ in a few years
Anonymous No.214269218 >>214269280
>>214268930
>commander Riker has demonstrated Data is a machine do we deny that no
>We too are machines just machines of a different type
Anonymous No.214269273 >>214269353
>>214261854
>how can you view it as anything other than an indictment on Starfleet and the Federation's legal system?
it's not the federations legal system, it's specifically starfleet. different rules.
Also this wasn't a trial, it was a hearing. a judge had a hearing to decide how a legal dispute moves forward.
The judge could order an injunction, "maddox can't take Data until we decide if precedent is overturned" or "precedent says he can take him until a full court ruling and the risk to him is acceptable"
We got the 2nd.
The crux of the situation is using old, outdated law as their precedent, like using british common law when there's no US case law.
They held a hearing to see if that old law really applies to Data.
Picard's legal approach at first is to establish that starfleet *already* treats data as sentient, as evidenced by his various medals and awards. So instead of viewing him as a machine being *upholding* precedent, it's actually a *reversal* of the starfleet approach. This means it'd be inappropriate to let maddox continue until an official ruling from the higher courts.

Picard shifts to arguing exactly why the law, which references AI machines, does not apply to data, by pointing out all the various ways that Data demonstrates, at the very least, autonomy and self awareness (if not full sentience)
And then the final crux of his argument is specifically that NOT blocking maddox from taking Data could set the dangerous precident (like they were using precident from the 21st century) that no amount of sentient would make data's type of androids NOT property.
The court then avoids the question (as courts often do) and makes a very narrow ruling, that Data has the right to self determination, as far as starfleet is concerned.
Court episodes are usually poor. But this one was made because of a writers strike. All things considered, it's one of the better ones.
Anonymous No.214269280 >>214269325
>>214269218
Remember in Voyager when they just "turn off" parts of Tuvok's brain
Anonymous No.214269325
>>214269280
yes, thats the exact argument being made
Anonymous No.214269353 >>214269424
>>214269273
also the primary writer was in fact a lawyer
Anonymous No.214269404 >>214269429 >>214269453 >>214269518 >>214270224
>>214265722
>enterprise can't communicate with the gorn, leading to massive violent conflict
>ortegas, a pilot, makes a yes/no communicator out of rubble

What?
Anonymous No.214269424
>>214269353
which is probably why it worked better than most.
Anonymous No.214269429
>>214269404
Forget it Jake Sisko, it's NuTrek.
Anonymous No.214269453 >>214269469 >>214269561
>>214269404
>>enterprise can't communicate with the gorn, leading to massive violent conflict
Didn't that original gorn in that TOS season 1 episode figure out english in an hour while being stranded on some planet without tech?
I always assumed they just want to be dicks.
Anonymous No.214269469
>>214269453
The Gorn were defending their sector of space that the ignorant Federation invaded. That's canonical btw.
Anonymous No.214269518
>>214269404
Previous episodes had them dealing with the combo of less intelligent infant Gorn, and that the Gorn were in a bloodlust cycle caused by their home space
Anonymous No.214269561 >>214269670
>>214269453
It has a universal translator trained since they encountered humans. But I wonder how Ortegas thought the yes-no translator would be useful when the Gorn wouldn't understand the questions.
Anonymous No.214269585 >>214269623 >>214269662 >>214269671 >>214269677 >>214270248 >>214270512
Can someone explain the absolute bullshit that is the episode where Wesley first applies to Starfleet

Hes considered one of the smartest people in the fucking galaxy and still isnt good enough to get in, in an organization that spans a quarter of the known galaxy

How the FUCK can the requirements be this insane especially when the average joe schmore dickhead on the Enterprise would never pass these exams
Anonymous No.214269598
>>214268945
also i love this follow-up scene
>You must have done something! What were you wearing?
>Weyoun being the standing man emoji in the corner while they just bicker

i think Dukat was probably jealous on some level. he would love to have bruises from Kira.
Anonymous No.214269623
>>214269585
They literally spell out its a shit test anon.
Anonymous No.214269662 >>214269723
>>214269585
Didn't he try to get into some special program for people who are normally too young for the regular test?
Anonymous No.214269670
>>214269561
Doesn't she rig it up after it appears that they can get some basic understanding across?
She wasn't expecting it to work as well as it did, it was just something she was trying
Anonymous No.214269671
>>214269585
did you skip 1/2 the episode?
Anonymous No.214269677
>>214269585
That was in season 1 when Starfleet was the utopian ultrasmart superelite best of the best

But that one question where they ask for the matter-antimatter reaction ration was retarded.
Anonymous No.214269684
shut up wesley
Anonymous No.214269703 >>214269757 >>214269775 >>214273171
What kind of monster would refuse to make babies with her?
Anonymous No.214269723
>>214269662
Nope, it was just the normal starfleet entrance exam
Anonymous No.214269757
>>214269703
A married union man with kids
Anonymous No.214269775 >>214269809 >>214269835
>>214269703
did you miss the part where he hates Cardies and has slaughtered more of them than anyone aside from Kira?
Anonymous No.214269809
>>214269775
He lucked out on having his wife's baby transport into her of all people. lol
>Oh hey, bro! I got yer baby now, but it's ok! ;)
Anonymous No.214269835 >>214269892
>>214269775
the cardy killer got more kills on cardies then kira ever did,he just doesn't like to talk about it
Anonymous No.214269850 >>214269887
Why is everyone in TNG using the holodeck act like autistic retard when talking to npcs on the holodeck? They never RP like theyre in the program, like Picard talking to 30s Americans about how WW2 is gonna go down
Anonymous No.214269887
>>214269850
Roleplaying wasn't that big yet back then
Anonymous No.214269892 >>214270171
>>214269835
Do you think he used Protocol 12?
Anonymous No.214269924
>>214268459
Your mind is sentient, your body is not.
Anonymous No.214270171
>>214269892
I don't know what that means, I'm talking about star trek
Anonymous No.214270224
>>214269404
There is precedent.
Anonymous No.214270248 >>214270281
>>214269585
Picard also failed his first application. But that was during his pussyhound era where he was chasing skirts instead of grades. Wonder how many times Riker had to take the exam.
Anonymous No.214270277 >>214270302 >>214270350 >>214270498 >>214272561
Watching this for the first time. Just started season 2.
This show is extremely comfy.
Anonymous No.214270281
>>214270248
Riker just slept with the proctor
Anonymous No.214270284 >>214270394
>>214269020
My rationale for Picard S3 and LD being decent is that other aliens exist and they remember what Klingons look like. Which means they at least tried.
Anonymous No.214270302 >>214270423
>>214270277
>season 2
You're in for the good stuff. Season 1 is the weakest part of the show.
Anonymous No.214270350
>>214270277
Season two is the comfiest season. It’s got some of the best as well as some of the worst episodes n Star Trek canon. The atmosphere is unmatched to this day.
Anonymous No.214270394
>>214270284
>LD being decent
you disgust me on a visceral level
Anonymous No.214270423 >>214270468 >>214270477 >>214270558
>>214270302
Did troi get raped by that alien in s2 episode 1??
Anonymous No.214270468
>>214270423
Troi gets raped all the time. raped by energy alien, raped by 2d aliens, raped by music box, raped by diplomat...
Anonymous No.214270477
>>214270423
Only under swedish law
Anonymous No.214270498
>>214270277
wtf is this disgusting filter
Anonymous No.214270512 >>214270576 >>214270643
>>214269585
We had this discussion a couple threads ago big dawg.

Wesley aced the smarts part but failed the psych eval. The test has a mini Kobayashi-Maru type test to weed out the bottlers. Wesley proved himself to be unreliable in a high stress situation. Someone less smart than him but won't shit their pants in a crisis (like Riker or even Miles, who didn't even go through the academy but they kept finding promotions to give him anyway because he was an exemplary crewman) is clearly a more suitable youth to be groomed for the officer track.

Wesley literally ends up quitting anyway so they were right about him. He was so smart he thought he was bigger than Starfleet.
Anonymous No.214270549
>what is this?!
Anonymous No.214270558
>>214270423
It was in international waters so its fine
Anonymous No.214270568 >>214270617 >>214270660
>>214268960
Everything was garbage.

The only exception is Picard Season 3. It wasn't great, but it was a serviceable (rank 7 out of 10) end.

Why? Because it gave a semi-decent final farewell to the TNG cast. Much better that "Star Trek Nemesis" at least. Ending TNG with Nemesis left a horrible taste in the fans mouths.

Also destroying the Enterprise D was a stupid decision. You would think a Galactic Space Federation that can travel between stars, would be fully capable of lifting up the crashed Saucer Section of the Enterprise, and repairing the ship. Not leaving the Saucer Section on the planet for 10 years.


If Picard Season 3 one thing right, I will give them credit for making the Starfleet ship museum and answering the fan questions of, "What happened to all the hero ships that were retired?"

Now we know.
Anonymous No.214270576 >>214270914
>>214270512
>Wesley failed the Kobayashi-Maru type test
this is objectively false and I suspect you're trolling
Anonymous No.214270583
>>214265907
In space, no one can hear you delegate
Anonymous No.214270617 >>214271279
>>214270568
>Everything was garbage.
>The only exception is Picard Season 3.
Anonymous No.214270643 >>214270704 >>214270711 >>214270880
>>214270512
Did Wesley ever end up as some Boothby like figure who quietly shapes great men? Or did they make him some super special historical icon because hw’s Gene’s self insert?
Anonymous No.214270660
>>214270568
no it was all garbage
Anonymous No.214270704
>>214270643
Wes is basically Doctor Who
Anonymous No.214270711 >>214270820 >>214271166
>>214270643
Nah he's just some former gifted kid wasted potential dropout loser pretty much. Basically became Wil IRL.
Anonymous No.214270736 >>214270760 >>214271144 >>214272624 >>214272683
i kinda think "post-trek" is a better term for the current slop than "nutrek." what do you guys say?
Anonymous No.214270760
>>214270736
not bad
Anonymous No.214270820
>>214270711
You hate to see it.
Anonymous No.214270869
star dreck
Anonymous No.214270880 >>214270950 >>214270991 >>214271019 >>214274036
>>214270643
Dude becomes like a Doctor Who, except not a meddler he stays off the grid keeping space/time intact or whatever
Anonymous No.214270907 >>214270996
>>214261659
Supposedly it was because she was the three titted lady in total recall and the suits got skiddish about using her more
Anonymous No.214270912 >>214271043
It is funny how they wrote Wesley out with some optimistic "he's exploring le galaxy" cope but really it just makes him look like a NEET loser who just smokes weed all day and goes on permanent vacations with zero responsibilities.
Anonymous No.214270914
>>214270576
The test was he had to abandon a trapped crewman to save the ship which he did in the simulation, so he passed.
Anonymous No.214270950 >>214270963 >>214272659
>>214270880
Toonslop is not canon so Wesley has zero canonical feats, cope, he's a loser who dropped out of school and disappointed his father figure.
Anonymous No.214270963
>>214270950
Wrong.
Anonymous No.214270991 >>214271018
>>214270880
lmao are you posting some toon shit? thats hilarious
Anonymous No.214270992
Wesley's ultimate fate was getting groomed by a space pedo who put visions of his dead father into his head telling him to abandon Starfleet and everyone who cares about him to go away with him.
Anonymous No.214270996
>>214270907
So THAT's where I remember her slutty-hot face. Thank you.
Anonymous No.214271018
>>214270991
>Toontards ACTUALLY being like "no bro Wesley is actually a superhero and really cool!"
Anonymous No.214271019
>>214270880
Wesley is Trek Rey? Is he every captain and species?
Anonymous No.214271043 >>214271084
>>214270912
What's funny is in Picard Bev has a meltdown about how her son is DEAD because he vanished into space and she never ever saw him again and that justified her robbing Picard of a life with his son, Prodigy is then just casually "uh, no"
Anonymous No.214271084 >>214271119 >>214271217
>>214271043
>What's funny is in Picard Bev has a meltdown about how her son is DEAD because he vanished into space and she never ever saw him again and

How can anyone think that TNG fans would ever want to see this? I'm fully convinced that Paramount wants to ruin Star Trek, just like they wanted to ruin Friday the 13th, regardless of the cash those respective series brought them.
Anonymous No.214271119
>>214271084
I want to see it because Wil is a faggot and it's obviously due to that why they didn't make him a character in the TNG reunion season. I doubt the cast wanted to deal with that manchild.
Anonymous No.214271144
>>214270736
>posting a post-trek character from a post-trek series
next gen was the last best hope for mankind.
7o9 is exempt for being sex on legs and making that boring croaky dried up coffee drinking janeway granny seethe for decades, but that's it.
Anonymous No.214271162
>tfw no black space wife
Anonymous No.214271166
>>214270711
that's me.
how do I fix it? I'm already past middle aged.
Anonymous No.214271217 >>214271259 >>214271295 >>214271354 >>214272721
>>214271084
Most legacy sequels made in the past 10 years are just
>Let's check in on your favorite fictional characters
>HAHA THEY'RE ALL MISERABLE AND DEAD. YOU WANTED A HAPPY RETIREMENT FOR THEM? THAT'S YOU GET FOR LIKING THIS WHITE MALE POWER FANTASY.
It's like a little girl snapping all her brother's toys in half out of jealousy and spite.
Anonymous No.214271258
NuTrek implies that is still Trek which it is not.
Trek is TOS, TAS, Movies, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT.

NotTrek is everything after that.
Anonymous No.214271259 >>214271295 >>214271345
>>214271217
the little sister taking her brother's toys analogy works in general.
someone used it for how everything's ruined now, because she made all the action figures sit in a circle and have a tea party
Anonymous No.214271279 >>214271335 >>214274022
>>214270617
Was Picard Season 3 better than Star Trek Nemesis.

YES OR NO.

Say the truth.
Anonymous No.214271295 >>214271463
>>214271217
>Most legacy sequels made in the past 10 years are just
>>Let's check in on your favorite fictional characters
>>HAHA THEY'RE ALL MISERABLE AND DEAD. YOU WANTED A HAPPY RETIREMENT FOR THEM? THAT'S YOU GET FOR LIKING THIS WHITE MALE POWER FANTASY.

True.

>>214271259
Studies show that boys want to become He-Man in their play, but girls want to make He-Man deliver mail or bake cookies. Understand now?
Anonymous No.214271335 >>214271698 >>214272863
>>214271279
Just barely, but fanservice slop isn't something to celebrate.
Season ONE was a better farewell to Data and replacement of Nemesis
Anonymous No.214271345 >>214271513
>>214271259
NuTrek is shit but I disagree with the little girl analogy on this count. I like OldTrek specifically because it is a "tea party" show. NuTrek is the one that smashes the figures together unsophisticatedly in big star wars crap type fights.
Anonymous No.214271354 >>214271501 >>214271504 >>214271569
>>214271217
I hated that shit while everyone was cumming and farting over it
Everyone in TNG grows old and miserable except Geordi
Anonymous No.214271361
Deanna's foot
Anonymous No.214271463 >>214271549
>>214271295
look, I'll explain it to you more clearly so you can follow it ;)
girls want to make transformer robot toys kids and have families and boys want to fly them in space.
im not sure how you aren't getting this yet :)
Anonymous No.214271501 >>214271536 >>214271538 >>214271569
>>214271354
>Everyone in TNG grows old and miserable except Geordi
Of course they need to course correct for making the black guy an awkward incel for over a decade.
Anonymous No.214271504
>>214271354
Worf was also a cool dude with a chill life
Anonymous No.214271513
>>214271345
nah. old trek was kirk double fisting rubber suited aliens in nevada.
post-trek, as we call it now thank you VERY much, is them all dancing and singing and everyone's a lesbian and drama about which one wore the same dress as the other one
Anonymous No.214271536 >>214271728
>>214271501
he wasn't an incel that one ensign girl was desperate for him and he treated her like she had cooties
Anonymous No.214271538
>>214271501
could the pudgey pygmy have been anything else?
Anonymous No.214271549 >>214271605
>>214271463
I got that you are miserable and hate me because I'm better than you in every possible way. I already said all that in other words, you projecting imbecile.
Anonymous No.214271569 >>214271623
>>214271354
>>214271501
The cast has had control over their characters since First Contact. Blame the actors for how the characters were. Geordi is le cool family man now because LeVar insisted on it. (It's funny how Dorn was fine with Worf still being a deadbeat kek)
Anonymous No.214271605 >>214271633
>>214271549
calm down sweetie, you're having a another one of your little panic attacks :)
tip toe to the kitchen and have of one of your yummy little snack snacks to make your tummy feel better
I can explain it again if you need some help with it. maybe leave it for another day if it is making you feel a little anxious ;)
Anonymous No.214271623 >>214271646
>>214271569
What the DS9 writers did to Alexander is so fucking bad it's fine they just memory holed him. Why bother trying to redeem that.
Anonymous No.214271633 >>214271989
>>214271605
You have panic attacks? lol
Anonymous No.214271646 >>214272952
>>214271623
it's bizarre how you keep repeating this wrong take
Anonymous No.214271698 >>214271967
>>214271335
>Just barely,

Okay. I'm glad you admit it. You can't say Nemesis is good, but then insult Season 3.

>but fanservice slop isn't something to celebrate.

It wasn't slop. It was an earnest attempt to give one last goodbye to TNG. If we never see the TNG cast again, then at least we have Picard Season 3 as a final farewell. It just barely works.

Your problem is you keep obsessing over the best Trek episodes of the 90s. We are never going to get that quality of writing ever again with the current NuTrek staff.
Anonymous No.214271728
>>214271536
A lot of self proclaimed incels are Geordi. Women on their level want (or at least would accept) them. But they only want women with model or porn star looks. And then they whine on their incel forums how women only want Chad with a 10 incher.
Anonymous No.214271736 >>214271769
you guys could just ignore nutrek apologists and then he'd be forced to either shut the fuck up or talk to himself. just a thought.
Anonymous No.214271769 >>214271816
>>214271736
It's fun in a way to know that retards are watching inferior dreck.
Anonymous No.214271816 >>214271860
>>214271769
it's not fun filling the thread up with posts that are akin to trying to explain to a flat-Earther that Earth is round. in my opinion.
Anonymous No.214271848
>>214265722
>an entire squad hipfiring their rifles, all set to instant death instead of stun, on something right next to their crewmate, that isn't acting aggressively like literally every other gorn they've encountered
god why do lib writers fucking SUCK SO MUCH
Anonymous No.214271860
>>214271816
When you put it that way....
Anonymous No.214271959
>>214267245
it'd crush my coffee table and there'd be no place to put my coffee
Anonymous No.214271967 >>214272722
>>214271698
>You just need to lower your standards, okay, the new writers are never gonna be as good as the old ones so just accept it (but don't say it's bad!)
THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HEYAH!
Anonymous No.214271989 >>214272288
>>214271633
did you put something in your tum tum to soothe baby?
good, now I'll explain it step by step for you don't be scared.
1. boy has toy
2. girl wants toy because she doesn't like boy having fun
3. girl waits until boy puts down toy
4. girl makes toy kiss other toy
5. toy not fun anymore
if you read it a few times you'll get it ;)
Anonymous No.214272008 >>214272126
>>214268945
>the same fight choreography for every fight
Anonymous No.214272123 >>214272269
>you may now have the baby
Anonymous No.214272126 >>214272292
>>214272008
Maybe Cardassia has lower gravity than Bajor and Bajorans are actually much stronger than Cardassians which is also why Cardassians struggled to hold Bajor.
Anonymous No.214272127
>>214268548
>the ship's computer is not sentient.
I think you're forgetting the episode where it had the technology space baby
Anonymous No.214272220
>>214268836
GOD it's so fucking GOOD
Anonymous No.214272269
>>214272123
Such a great episode.
Anonymous No.214272288
>>214271989
Are you angry because you've never had sex?
Anonymous No.214272291
>>214266446
good question
Anonymous No.214272292 >>214272358
>>214272126
Gul Dukat tells Kira in one episode (I think it was the one where they rescue his daughter) that Cardassians are physiologically superior to Bajorans.
Anonymous No.214272358 >>214272895
>>214272292
correct. but Dukat is also delulu.
Anonymous No.214272561
>>214270277
I'm glad you're having a good time anon
However, this box art is soulless, which is not your fault
Anonymous No.214272624 >>214272671
>>214270736
nah, it should never be able to escape the nutrek sloppa label
Anonymous No.214272659
>>214270950
Right.
Anonymous No.214272671 >>214272962
>>214272624
but nutrek implies it's some manner of trek, which it isn't.
Anonymous No.214272683
>>214270736
slop trek
Anonymous No.214272721
>>214271217
it's closer to 15 years now anon ._.
Anonymous No.214272722
>>214271967
Well the rumor mill says that Alex Kurtzman is out after Star Trek Academy and SNW. Skydance is merging with Paramount and they don't want him.

Just wait a 1 or 2 years for things to wrap up.
Anonymous No.214272863
>>214271335
>Season ONE was a better farewell to Data
no it fucking wasn't you retarded revisionist lmao
>"we reconstructed data from a single atom and he lives in this box now haha"
>"hey (((golem))) picard you wanna talk to him?"
>CAPTAIN, PLEASE KILL ME
I swear to god it's like they saw that scene at the end of Age of Ultron where James Spader and Paul Bettany have a short exchange about the impermanence and frailty of life, and tried to ape it without understanding why it was the one good scene out of that entire capeslot movie.
Data sacrificing himself to save his friends and family at the end of Nemesis, while controversial and perhaps even stupid, was unironically a better sendoff for him than "CAPTAIN, PLEASE UNPLUG ME FROM LIFE SUPPORT"
Anonymous No.214272895
>>214272358
i liked the detail that cardassians like to lay on warm rocks like lizards
Anonymous No.214272924 >>214272985 >>214273092
If Cardassians and Bajorans have a common ancestor, then why did the Cardies turn into lizards?
Anonymous No.214272952
>>214271646
What ds9 did with Worfs entire FAMILY was so bad that it deserved to be memory holed
Anonymous No.214272962 >>214272993
>>214272671
so does post-trek, so there's no reason to change the label. doing so only gives it an opportunity to rebrand and pretend it's not crap
Anonymous No.214272985 >>214273000
>>214272924
hotter planet with more sun
Anonymous No.214272993 >>214273051
>>214272962
>so does post-trek
no it doesn't. it redefines it as having the characteristic of being AFTER actual trek. so it therefore definitionally is not trek.
Anonymous No.214273000 >>214273051
>>214272985
How come Tyronne in Africa didn't turn into a lizard
Anonymous No.214273051 >>214273067
>>214272993
so does nutrek. nu is the derogatory form of new
>>214273000
not hot or sunny enough and not enough time has passed
Anonymous No.214273067 >>214273159
>>214273051
>so does nutrek.
ok you've just gotta be ESL or something.
Anonymous No.214273092
>>214272924
Cardies are still mammals
Anonymous No.214273159 >>214273223
>>214273067
nope, if anything i think you are
post-trek means it came after trek
nutrek means it's derogatorily new, which also means it isn't old trek
Anonymous No.214273171
>>214269703
Not me that's for damn sure
Anonymous No.214273186
For me, it was Judd.
Anonymous No.214273223 >>214273254 >>214273292 >>214273398
>>214273159
nu trek isn't old trek or new trek. it isn't fucking trek at all. that's why you would call it post-trek. because they haven't made any star trek since 2005.
Anonymous No.214273254
>>214273223
wait i just got baited by the toontroon didn't i? no one calls it "old trek" but him. fuck.
Anonymous No.214273280 >>214273335
>>214261106 (OP)
He’s right you know.
Anonymous No.214273292
>>214273223
>they haven't made any star trek since 2002.
ftfy
Yes, Nemesis is a canonical end.
Anonymous No.214273335 >>214273420
>>214273280
>it's real
Oh lawd, he's seething.
Anonymous No.214273353
>>214265722
fuck the gorn they should be exterminated galaxy wide
Anonymous No.214273398
>>214273223
can you not read or something?
Anonymous No.214273420
>>214273335
He’s using reverse psychology. Alabama will be targeted instead in this timeline.
Anonymous No.214273835
Waking up this sleepyhead thread while everyone's at work.
Anonymous No.214273864 >>214273906
Sarek is a coomer.
Anonymous No.214273906 >>214274064
>>214273864
I bet he enters pon farr every 6 years instead of 7, what a gooner
Anonymous No.214274022 >>214274047
>>214271279
Yes. Nemesis was actors expecting another movie and phoning in their performance so badly there was no other movie. PIC S3 is a bunch of old farts knowing they will NEVER be on stage as these characters all together in one place again and they're actually treating it like a good sendoff.
The writing and premises of PIC S3 are paper thin but the performances are more real and intense and so you actually feel like it's a real sendoff.
I could give a rat's fucking dick about Shinzon and the Romulans and B4 and whatever the actual dumbfuck, but seeing Terry Matalas just let the crew go on for 20+ minutes fucking around a poker table has more emotional resonance for me than Brent Spiner pretending to be a retard and trying to whistle.
If you disagree with me, fine, but I will not be swayed because your arguments will deflect off my smooth brain.
Anonymous No.214274036
>>214270880
So the Traveller really did see potential in him and he fulfilled it.
Anonymous No.214274047 >>214274132 >>214274167
>>214274022
Terry Matalas is a faggot who knows nothing about TNG but thinks he's the God of Trek, basically what Dave Filoni became
Anonymous No.214274064
>>214273906
He voluntarily enters his h*man bride everyday.
Anonymous No.214274132 >>214274186
>>214274047
>Terry Matalas is a faggot who knows nothing about TNG but thinks he's the God of Trek
Don't disagree but look at what he did for the PIC3 finale. He just let the camera roll. Didn't do much active meddling. They just fucked around and he rolled credits over it.
>inb4 "the actors make the characters the actors"
okay, fine, sure, but they are gonna do that anyway, so better they do it when they actually know this is The End versus when they think they're still young and hot enough to squeeze a couple more films out of Paramount's anus. It's a form of authenticity that only old age can beat into you
Anonymous No.214274167 >>214274224
>>214274047
He's so full of himself too. He literally sells autographs and photo ops at conventions like he's one of the actors when he's just a writer.
Anonymous No.214274186 >>214274216
>>214274132
The PIC3 finale was a dumpster fire. I don't care about le camera rolled for 20 minutes unscripted poker scene, reddit.
Anonymous No.214274216
>>214274186
Thanks for your opinion, it is noted.
Anonymous No.214274224 >>214274271
>>214274167
>when he's just a writer.
basically the coffee intern for ENT no less
Anonymous No.214274233
Sex with evil Romulan women
Anonymous No.214274271
>>214274224
when he made sure the characters say "M'talas Prime" like 400 times
Anonymous No.214274322
>>214266725
>real lawyers
>legal eagle
kek