Thread 214263353

How did nobody figure out he was the Sith Lord?

They were all retarded.
He was not.

>>214263353 (OP)
That's the whole point of the movies

>>214263353 (OP)
it's almost like... he was concealing it or something...

The was no sign of them for 1000 years, everybody forgot or never knew what a Sith was capable of

Why would a droid designed for war be programmed to say "uh"?

He didn't give a four part lecture about Sith Lords. Real shame.

>>214263410
Nah. it can't be. everyone should have figured it out even though he gave no clues about it because... they should have figured it out.

>>214263531
He literally did to Anakin

>watching weird alien play
>”btw did I tell you about the Sith, and all this obscure stuff that only someone who was very closely familiar with the Sith would know”

>>214263509
Theyre not actually droids, but drones, and are being controlled from a high tech space cubicle farm that was exported out to space india to save the trade federation space money on space wages and having to pay space taxes of 1st galaxy planets.

The jedi are pretty useless if they can't detect the existence of powerful sith like Palpatine, Plagueis, and whoever trained Plaguies. I mean Yoda can fucking force meditate and commune with the the dead, but he can't sense the darkside energy emanating from these sith lords?

too busy infighting to notice

>>214263410
>is theatrically evil the entire time even when he’s “concealing himself”

>>214264326
The psychological strategy of "hiding in plain sight" has been effective in real-life. Take Jimmy Savile for example.

>>214263353 (OP)
dark side magic was clouding the jedi's judgment

>>214264389
That might be true but this is Star Wars man where Yoda could have sliced either of them in half with no consequences. At least the OT was fun. I didn’t watch it for true crime and C-SPAN with aliens

>>214263353 (OP)
>meanwhile in a far far galaxy..
>space hitler: hello my fellow space merchants..it has come to my attention that the republic's tariffs are..somehow...bad for you.. you guys ought to declare war or something.. lol
2 weeks later
>space hitler: my fellow democratic senators.. we must destroy these evil merchants that threaten our tariffs.. or something.. anyway let's just declare war.. lmao
Lucas is such a fucking hack

>>214263353 (OP)
A SITH LORD?

>>214264945
Manufacturing martyrs is always a good strategy. He just wanted to commit to it instead of using crisis actors

>>214263570
He also mentions dookie is a shitlord to obi wan

>>214263353 (OP)
They did and he killed them/had them killed

Why do people need star wars explained to them? What the fuck happened to the world? Why are you all so fucking stupid that you can't even understand family films?

>>214263570
It was literally just a glorified elevator pitch.

>>214265769
>noooo just stop asking questions and just COOOONSOOOOOM!!
i don't think so you disneyshill

>>214263570
Anakin is almost as dumb as George himself, so that wasn't enough to clue him in.

>>214265769
Because even family films should follow an inner logic.
This is different from "but who pumps the Batmobile's tires".

>>214263353 (OP)
Ain't no rule say a Sith Lord can't become a politician in a democratic republic.

>>214265904
>>214265912
Nothing to do with asking questions because the questions were explained in the film. Same with your nonsense batman question which is obviously the one singular employee that Bruce Wayne has.
>hurr durr how did the evil space wizard hide his presence? magic?

>>214263353 (OP)
All politicians give off evil vibes, it was the perfect disguise.

>>214263353 (OP)
His midichlorianmogged the jedis

>>214263353 (OP)
because Ian McDiarmid is such a likeable guy

Is the pretty much the most extreme case of a sunk cost fallacy there has ever been?

>>214263353 (OP)
The jedi order was too clouded by sniffing their own farts.

>>214263353 (OP)
>>214266993
>obiwan, the chancellor is literally a sith lord
>lol cool story bro
Will never not be the most funny shit ever.

>>214263353 (OP)
A sith lord?

>>214263509
I can tell you've never used chatgpt, everything it says is retarded.

>>214263353 (OP)
Because his master plan consisted of saying the right things to the right people, and winning a democratic election.

>>214263353 (OP)
What proof one would have he was a sith lord?
Forget proof, what suspicion could you even have? He made smug faces?

Is it illegal in Republic law to be a sith lord even if you aren't guilty of any crimes? What if Palpatine had stood up in front of the Senate and simply said, "I'd like the galaxy to know that I follow the way of the sith, and am in fact a sith lord. This is my religious belief, it's a very ancient and venerable tradition, and I'd ask you to extend me the same respect and understanding you'd give to any other person of faith. Thank you." Would the jedi try to kill him, just for saying that? If they would, then from my point of view the jedi are evil.

>>214269363
>The Good Sith
fuck off

>>214269385
sith man bad

Nice NPC opinion you've got there.

>>214263353 (OP)
He was controlling literally every thought and action and random occurence with the force so I guess he was basically god

>>214269421
Why did he bother with the trade war then?

>>214263353 (OP)
What do you mean? Anakin figured it out.

>>214269530
Not really, Palpatine chose to reveal himself in that scene.

>>214269549
This. Anakin was also portrayed as an idiot.

Essentially, the phantom menace refers to how the jedi can only see Sheev's afterimage in the plans he has set in motion. The jedi perceive that there is a threat to the republic but they are totally mistaken about the nature of the threat. There's no sith lord using his magic powers to suppress jedi clairvoyance, Sheev is a smart guy so he doesn't need magic powers to read the room or trick people. The jedi can see that Sheev is gaining political influence but what do they care? The galactic senate is full of political opportunists like Sheev.

>>214269549
He never said "I'm the Sith Lord".

>>214263386
>He was not.
he went to oversee the second death star knowing he had starkiller base and the fleet of death star destroyers and got killed for it
like why even bother building it retard

>>214269762
He didn't die though.

>>214269678
Come on man. Earlier in the film he gives Anakin a talk about the amazing powers of Darth Plagueis the Wise, and this is the only time Anakin hears a character speak about the sith in a positive way. The fact that he's using the appellation "the Wise" is another big clue, because no one on the light side would call him that. And before this conversation begins, Palpatine orders his underlings to leave the two of them alone because he's about to say some shady secret shit that's only for Anakin's ears. Later, in the office scene, he chooses to make it all completely obvious for Anakin.

Its taken HOW long for normies to catch on that the government and parasitic elites are full of Satanic pedophiles? And we have been talking about it for HOW many years now?
Never mind that Palpatine probable knows dark side magic to obscure, obsfucate and intentionally hide his motives while putting on a public face of fealty, now imagine people being able to do that in real life.
Besides, the Sith had been extinct for a millennia. Nobody within living memory had ever seen or encountered one and Obi-wan was shotgunned right up to master after he had killed one. He also rose to power at the beginning of a galactic wide conflict, so focus was always elsewhere. He was so good at hiding his tracks that there was no concrete evidence of him doing anything wrong, nevermind undermining or orchestrating the conflict from start to end. The war was practically over by the time they began to suspect the dark side around the chancellor and only a sense of a plot to destory them entirely. After he personally murdered four of them and used that as an excuse to purge the rest, no one would ever know or find out becaus ehte only witness hated them too.

>>214270313
Palpatine benefits from convenient writing. His dark side magic is literally plot armour. Jedi masters like Yoda are able to speak to the ghosts of fallen jedi, but for some reason these ghosts who are one with force and can see anything don't pass on vital information about the sith lord and his schemes. So, a force ghost can teleport from Hoth to Dagobah, but it can't drop into Palpatine's office and check on what he's doing? It's also odd that the Trade Federation leaders are willing to take orders from Darth Sidious without knowing his real identity and seemingly having no curiosity about it. They could use their wealth and technology to try and find out, they could hire some detectives or maybe try to trace the holo transmissions, but nah there's no need to do that because this black-robed sorcerer seems so very trustworthy.

Qui-Gon got killed by Maul and that should have put the jedi order into high alert, turning over every stone to catch the culprit. Yoda knows about the Rule of Two and couldn't have thought that Maul was the only sith out there. But ten years later, in AOTC, the jedi seem not to care much about that that incident. Again, very convenient.

>>214263353 (OP)
No living Jedi had ever seen one. Siths were legends when Yoda was still training.
Communist lesbian space witches.

>>214263353 (OP)
What did you say?

>>214269363
What's the goal of the sith anyway? Why are they evil?

>>214271919
They vote for the other space party

>>214263353 (OP)
Wait....you're telling me he's not jewish?

>>214271919
Name a single objectively evil thing Sheev did

>>214263353 (OP)
Jar Jar knew.

Dark Triads are very good at appearing decent through performative displays of niceness and charity.

>>214271986
Conspiracy to overthrow the republic
Overthrowing the republic

>Write retarded characters
>Uh, everyone's mind was clouded
Bravo Lucas

>>214272007
No shit he was a Sith Lord too.

>>214271986
Being responsible for a war that killed millions

>>214271986
Name a single objectively evil thing the Jedi did

And no, not freeing those slaves was not an evil thing, the jedi are government agents thus they must obey all local laws

>>214271986
betrayed his allies the trade federation, ordered Darth Vader to wipe out all the Jedi in the temple (including children), enacted the construction of a powerful super weapon and used it against an entire planet because just one of its inhabitants didn't give the location of the rebel base quick enough

>>214271919
Unlimited Power. Its evil because they will harm others in the process with no conscience.

>>214271986
created his son, which allowed the creation of his granddaughter, Rey Palpatine

>>214272076
thats just good business

>>214272047
>conspiracy to overthrow
>overthrowing the republic
He was quite literally voted into power. If his "conspiracy" was winning votes every single politician would be guilty of trying to overthrow his government.

>>214263353 (OP)
Dealing with the Jedi is like conversing with redditors. You could be like hey this guy with sith murals in his office who just gave himself unlimited power is probably a sith lord and they'd be like "source?"

>>214272070
They literally tried to have the highest politician arrested and killed without a trial.

>>214272121
Why did they vote him in?

>>214272121
He orchestrated the war from both sides to make that happen though.

>>214272121
Just wait a couple of years until trumps tries to that irl

>>214272148
he was making a move, they had to get it on

>>214272114
If good business is just committing atrocities and betrayals, then being a good business is inherently wrong

>>214264297
It's all explained in the Plaguies Novel.
They don't completely conceal their force sensitivity that others can sense, they just adjust the slider so it comes up very low, like force sensitive tax evasion

>>214272114
Bernie Madoff scamming his loyal customers was also good business, until the recession hit and he couldn't keep his scam up anymore

>>214271919
Sith aren't inherently evil, but their philosophy incentivizes to be "evil" by adhering to no restraints, and gaining power to ensure that nobody can stop you following your passions.

However, this leads to the Sith ironically becoming trapped by the pursuit of power, which is why Darth Bane killed every Sith and created the rule of two.

>>214264945
You mean like every banker war in human history after the 1800s

>>214272205
>mfw

>>214272114
murdering your allies and children is good business? The Jedis killed too, but only their enemies, and they didn't target children either

>>214272070
>name something evil they did
>except this evil thing they did
end your miserable existence

>>214271919
Gain power at all costs then form the galaxy to the individuals vision.

The whole point of the dark side is selfishness, while light side is selflessness.
Balance is being a bit of both

>>214272298
yes, when it makes you the emperor and secures tour rule

>>214272076
>enacted the construction of a powerful super weapon and used it against an entire planet

Wasn't that Tarkin's own idea? You might assume that Tarkin put in a call to Coruscant and got permission from the Emperor, but we don't see that happen in the film.

>>214272219
The prequels are a lesson on covert narcissism. Nice actions create a smoke screen combined with the desire to believe the person is good because to think they are actually evil despite evidence is too hard to accept.

>>214272298
>he doesn't know
Jedi have also committed atrocities.

>>214263509
because the phrase before it said "uh" was "that does not compute"

>>214263353 (OP)
They needed irrefutable evidence to arrest him otherwise they risked civil war. It’s like with Trump, everybody knows he’s a pedo kike from Epstein’s crew but nobody can do anything about it since he got rid of all the evidence.

>>214264945
The whole point of the movies is to get to the epic fights. Why does it have to make sense?
Nerds ruin everything because they want people in fictional universes to make more sense than people in real universes.
Anyway by Episode 2 Palpatine was solidly Space Dick Cheney.

>>214272330
But why did Palpatine need to become emperor, The war going on that he was given power to stop, was a war he orchestrated in the first place. Then Palpatine secured his rule by creating a superweapon which destroys planets. If Palpatine didn't try for power, there literally would be no Star Wars. There would just be a Republic, and no superweapon to be used at the Empire's convenience

>>214272378
Let me guess: some gay ass lame fanfiction garbage. Sure as shit never happened in the movies. Which means it didn't happen at all.

>>214272378
Destroyed entire planets with a superweapon? killing entire populations because one of it's people defied your empire?

>>214272514
>>214272525
It's not a story Disney would tell you, but the original Jedi enslaved the Sith (race). The Sith rebelled and the Jedi tried to genocide them.

>>214263353 (OP)
He’s a top tier lad. The Jedi built their temple on top of a sith nexus, that alone was enough to make all the Jedi permanently in a haze

>>214272623
So yeah, retarded non-canon Acolyte-tier fanfiction. Never happened.

>>214272623
one, Palpatine was not part of that Sith race, two, Palpatine only cared about securing his own power, everyone else was just a pawn, three, he practiced the "rule of two" meaning he was the sole Sith master, there were to be no other Sith beside just one apprentice, who he abused constantly

>>214272675
Whatever you say dickless monk.

>>214269415
>sith man bad
Correct. Objective morality exists in star wars.
Same with real d&d. some races are just evil, and when soi writers try to make a good “dark cave dwelling hellspawn hybrid spider worshiping elf” they are missing the point and don’t understand fantasy writing.

>>214272643
If true, that is a stupid addition to the lore.

>Oh no we built on top of a sith nexus, what an unfortunate coincidence this is! But at least it takes care of all the plot holes

>>214264989
A SITH LAWD?

Sith are old and jewdie lust for younglings so they went unnoticed

>>214272471
Destiny

>>214272070
Why are the Jedi agents of the government? What about separation of church and state? No wonder people hated them

>>214263353 (OP)
Anakin figured it out and told the Council.

>>214273095
No one hated the Jedi, they were revered at new saint status. You are inventing head cannon

>>214273210
People whose kids were taken by the jedi hated them

>>214273237
The only parent we saw was Anakin's mom and she didn't hate them.

>>214273210
>noone hated the Jedi
I didn't really see any protests when the Jedi were exterminated for being traitors

>>214273261
Look up the rebellion, they were kind of a big deal.

>>214272148
You’re an idiot

>>214273291
The rebellion never rebelled because of the Jedi. They didn't like Sheev and attempted a coup.

>>214273210
We don't see members of the general public revering jedi in the prequels or the originals. Han doesn't take them seriously, Uncle Owen disdains them, Watto and Jabba aren't afraid to fuck around with the jedi, Dexter Jettster talks to Obi-Wan like he's just a customer and not like he's an exalted holy man.

>>214269762
That was more about converting Luke, the oversight was a smokescreen honey trap

>>214272810
They did it on purpose and it’s Lucas canon. They thought with the Jedi presence there it would disappear the nexsus over time. Sidious used it to blind them

>>214263488
1000 is retarded but i Guess Lucas didn't care about sequels and prequels

>>214266203
>sheev's sunk cost in anakin
>anakin's sunk cost in life
>george's sunk cost in the prequel plot
>our collective sunk cost in the franchise
yes but which one?

>>214273256
Do you want monks abducting your kid and raising them to be religious zealot child soldiers?

>>214273095
Did you missed the part were they showed that giant Jedi Temple in the middle of city

How do you think they could pay for that, the Jedi were the Republic's enforcers and paid thugs

>>214273291
cope

>>214273256
This, the reason is the (((Jedi))) tried to overthrow the loveable Chancellor.
It's sick, get holocausted force niggers

I know /tv/ hates filoni wars but in several episodes it has ordinary galactic citizens show disdain for Jedi for essentially kidnapping children and brainwashing them to be soldiers

>>214273384
You’re an idiot.
This is the kind of mental midget you are debating in Starwars threads.
Owen just didn’t want him joining. Han wasn’t sure they were real, Jabba was afried of them, he just didn’t reqinze a local farm boy as a Jedi.. you have no negative examples, and you ignore all the positive examples

>>214273464
>paid thugs
The Jedi peace makers followed thier own guidance, they did not just enforce whatever the senate wanted.
This entire idea that the Jedi were corrupt or morally equivalent to Sith is pure distilled headcanoon

>>214273678
>they did not just enforce whatever the senate wanted.
Except they did, every time
>pure distilled headcanoon
George Lucas makes it quite clear that the Jedi weren't exactly the pinnacle of "good".

>>214273750
>George Lucas makes it quite clear
You’re an idiot. Don’t reply to me again

Breaking news: Senator Sheev Palpatine arrested after conversation with Jedi investigators posing as a 14 year old Sith over the hologram

>>214273768
Obi-Wan left Anakin to burn alive by the fiery lakes of Mustafar. That's the punishment for disobeying the Jedi Order.

>>214273768
He said it. He wrote it.

>>214273750
George Lucas said the Jedi are "the most moral of anybody in the galaxy." (direct quote)

>>214273841
to be fair, that is also the punishment for killing dozens of children

>>214271919
They all have their own motivations, originally it was a Schism in the ancient Jedi who found the Sith who were a bunch of tribals using the dark side of the force in the unknown regions. It's less that they have some unified collective goal and more that they adhere to a similar ideological or technically spiritual principle, that being emotion is useful when it comes to space magic.
Plagueis was such a literal space jew (Muun) that he wanted to create a Sith Oligarchy that controlled all sentient life through a subversive power network, that the entire galactic population would not know they were cattle.
Bane was just some chuddie tired of commie infighting who told everyone they were faggot weaklings and dared them to kill him.
Palpatine was a megalomaniac.
Vader wanted to fuck sweet aristocrat coochie all day long
Nobody cares about anybody else, yes that includes Darth Shitto
>AJJYT

>>214271702
They did know there was a second one tho they mention it at the end of phantom menace
>”rule of two blah blah a student and a master”
>”which one was it, the student or the master”

>>214273888
Checked. Pic related is my reply

>>214263570
But that's when he all but explicitly revealed himself to be a Sith to Anakin.

>Obi-Wan leaves his adopted brother to die a screaming death and rushes off to help Padme and her unborn children, who are actually Obi-Wan's children because he has been fucking her behind Anakin's back
>Palpatine flies to Mustafar in person, saves Anakin's life and gets him the best medical attention in the galaxy with state-of-the-art prosthetics. Also gives him a top job in the Empire despite his physical disabilities

omg how could Palpatine be so evil?

>>214273678
>The Jedi peace makers followed thier own guidance
So that means Quin Go was some sort pro-slavery jedi?

Very bold of Lucas to put a literal confederate Jedi

>>214274290
Honestly we should all just accept that is a bit of a plot hole.
(Maybe it would have worked if the Jedi were on a different part of the planet and never really took in person meetings with the president on the regular.)
All this additional posthoc cannon like “the temple was built on sith nexus” or “the Jedi were actually pretty terrible people them selves and had lost powers” just makes it worse, not better

>>214263353 (OP)
How didnt anyone notice?

>>214273750
>>214273851
>"[The Jedi] are the most moral of anybody in the Galaxy. They're monks. The Sith practice the dark side and are way out of balance. The Jedi aren't as much out of balance because they're the light side of the Force."--George Lucas, The Star Wars Archives
>"A Jedi is never lonely. They live on compassion. They live on helping people, and people love them. They can love people back. But when that person dies, they let go. Those that cannot let go become miserable. That's the lonely place."--George Lucas, The Star Wars Archives
>"Well, I — I guess they’re like ultimate father figures or negotiators. And — and at this point in time they are — they’re sent out to negotiate a — a deal. They help to put forth answers where people are in the middle of a dispute. They’re aren’t an aggressive force at all. They try to — conflict resolution, I guess, is what you might [call it] - intergalactic therapists."--The Mythology of Star Wars with George Lucas, 1999
>“The Jedi Knights are like marshals in the Wild West. It’s their job to make sure everyone is protected, to bring peace.”--George Lucas, Sci-fi Online, 2005

>>214274456
>It’s their job to make sure everyone is protected

I think Shmi Skywalker might have something to say about that.

>>214274456
Yet in his own movies that he wrote he portrays the Jedi as arrogant, out of touch. They refuse to accept Anakin at first because he's too old. They won't believe Dooku when he says the chancellor is a Sith lord. They refuse to believe their archives could be wrong in regards to a missing planet. They won't let Anakin have a seat on the council. Mace Windu thinks his way is the only way. Yoda is blind to everything around him until it's too late.

>>214263353 (OP)
You say stuff like this but then Trump still gets elected

>>214274581
Now you understand why people say that Lucas is a hack

The prequels are just a mess of bad writing and pure nonsense

>>214274650
It's more like you're the one who's retarded because you can't understand a children's movie.

>>214274650
Can we really see the prequels are badly written when they have so many memorable lines that we still meme to this day?

>>214274684
LE HECKIN /R/PREQUEL MEMES I LOVE REDDIT MAYMAYS YOU JUST TAKE ANY SCREENSHOT FROM ANY MOVIE THEN ADD LE CAPTION 2B EPIC
>holds up spork

>>214274581
None of what you said is really true and lacks nuance, for example they took Anakin in right away, maybe you are thinking of Luke. Why would ankian have a spot on the concuil? That is for people at the end of their career, not the start, etc. with the rest of your points
>>214274555
That’s more just a lack of resources, they don’t have a presence in the Congo of the star wars universe, they can’t even free the slaves in thier own territory yet(because they work in the law).

>>214274581
The only one of those things which is arrogant is the librarian who thinks the archives are infallible, and that's just one old bitch. They were right not to train Anakin, and showed flexibility by letting Obi-Wan follow his personal judgement on the matter, even though it was a bad move. They have no reason to take Dooku's word for anything. They were right not to make Anakin a master.

>>214274555
Qui-Gon tried to help her. He did everything he could. Shmi was okay with staying behind. The central theme of the film was letting go and accepting change, that you can't control everything. And she was eventually freed and got married. Her ultimate fate had nothing to do with slavery. I am baffled why so many retards think otherwise.

>>214274581
>he portrays the Jedi as arrogant, out of touch
No, he didn't. You made that up in your head.
>They refuse to accept Anakin at first because he's too old.
And they were right.
>They won't believe Dooku when he says the chancellor is a Sith lord
Dooku never said the Chancellor was a Sith Lord. He merely said that a Sith Lord exists and is influencing the Senators. He told half-truth in order to manipulate and corrupt Obi-Wan, because Dooku wanted himself an apprentice to overthrow Sidious and become the Emperor himself. That's what Sith do. Dooku was a Sith Lord himself. It's the same scene as with Vader and Luke in Episode V. His motives were purely evil. And the Jedi were right to not believe him. He is a traitor, murderer and a terrorist.
>They refuse to believe their archives could be wrong in regards to a missing planet.
By "they" you only mean the librarian. Yoda said outright that the planet was erased by a Jedi. Did you watch the movie?
>They won't let Anakin have a seat on the council.
Because it was a move by Palpatine to place his man on the Council and take authority over the Jedi Order. It was a political power move and nepotism. Anakin did not deserve a seat on the Council.
>Mace Windu thinks his way is the only way.
Mace Windu has never been wrong once. He ended up being right about literally everything.
>Yoda is blind to everything around him until it's too late.
Dark Side clouds everything. Hard to see it is. He did what he could.

You made a bunch of shit up in your head and watched some fanedit, instead of the George Lucas Star Wars movies.

>>214274456
>they’re sent out to negotiate a — a deal
that's what they say about drumpf too

>>214275002
>Mace Windu has never been wrong once. He ended up being right about literally everything.
>lemme just arrest the chancellor without any proof that he's a sith instead of playing it cool, surely he won't try to resist

>>214274852
There is no slavery in the Republic.

>>214275109
The proof was 3 Jedi Masters he killed with a red lightsaber and then trying to kill him and shitting Sith Lightning in his face. And they could not arrest him: he was in control of the senate and the courts. He had to die in order for the Republic and the Jedi Order to survive.

>>214275129
Guffaw

>>214275002
>No, he didn't
THEY ARE LITERALLY IN AN IVORY TOWER

>>214275290
No, they are not. The purpose of the Jedi Temple's design was to convey that the Jedi watch over the entirety of Coruscant, i.e. Republic. In contrast, Palpatine's office watches over the Senate, as he tries to seize it. That was the intent of George Lucas. Not that they are in an Ivory tower.

>>214263509
it's super useful to ellicit a response out of a human. like a literal ping

>>214275422
Yep. It is a dumb question anyways, why do atms say good morning? They are programmed to lull people into friendly nondefense .

>>214275482
I just told you the actual intent as revealed by George Lucas himself and the artists who made the movie. You keep insisting on your delusional headcanon. You know as they say: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. You want Jedi to be bad, so you twist and turn everything you can to support your headcanon. If you were some mentally ill fujo from tumblr, you'd read everything you can to support your Obi-Wan x Anakin shipping theory. That's just unhealthy, retarded fan behavior.

>>214263353 (OP)
He hid his red lightsaber

>>214263353 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaXHDpCe-KI
Did you even watch the films?

>>214263353 (OP)
the previous chancellor did I think and there was also a jedi who planned to get everyone in the senate blood tested, they were both killed

>>214275482
very fucking subtle george, almost like a brick-sized, brick-weight feather hitting the top of my head

>>214275598
>(they my never know my lightsaber is red)
>hey palps, what color is your lightsaber
>Why, blue of cour-FUCK

>>214275662
Still too subtle for some tards

>>214275662
I don't get it? Why would the Jedi be a nucular bomb dropped on the Republic? They coexisted for thousands of years.

Is the Darth Plagueis novel any good? I haven't read a Star Wars novel in years. I read a little bit of the nu-Thrawn book but I wasn't keen on it.

>>214276047
Why would you read this YAslop instead of real literature?

>>214275482
The temple is the same colour scheme as the rest of Coruscant, it's not that deep. The tower makes a better visual for council scenes than meeting in a car park.

>>214263353 (OP)
He was sneaky

>>214271986
Declared war on himself for some reason.

>>214276096
Wait, it's literally a fucking bomb, like >>214275662 said.

>>214276080
For a nostalgic trip down memory lane. Like reading The Hobbit.

How can the clone wars be viewed as goodies vs baddies if the leader of the republic was darth sidious?

>>214276047
No. It's shit. It had Darth Plagueis alive during The Phantom Menace. Dumb fucking fanfiction. All Star Wars extended material is stupid waste of time fanfiction. Except videogames - at least they are actually fun.

>>214276146
Because the Jedi were the good guys, and General Grievance, Darth Tyrant and a bunch of evil corporate caricatures with death robots were obviously bad guys.

>>214276132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXP8VEXWMs
The difference is that Hobbit is a book that stimulates your imagination, versus expanded universe literally substituting it, turning a single offhand mention by of "the clone wars" by Obi Wan into a whole film trilogy.
Just reread the Thrawn trilogy to put yourself into the childlike wonder state of your youth. It is the best EU has to offer.

>>214276080
Why would you read 4chan posts instead of real literature?

>>214276301
Because I'm here forever and so are you. Forever destined to roam these lands in hopes of meeting a real man instead of an llm.

>>214273452
That’s not how the Jedi recruited acolytes despite what nu Disney says. The parents are presented with all the information and given a the option to give the child up to the order knowing full well they will never meet again. Theres only like 1000 Jedi total during the prequels

>>214271702
> Jedi masters like Yoda are able to speak to the ghosts of fallen jedi, but for some reason these ghosts who are one with force and can see anything don't pass on vital information about the sith lord and his schemes.

"If you choose to face Vader, you will do it alone. I cannot interfere."
It seems as thought here is a threshold for how much force ghosts are capable of intervening with in material realm. If one wishes to commune with Jedi masters from the past, that is usually done through the holocrons and those aren't actual communications with force ghosts either, just ancient instruction videos for obscure knowledge. On top of that, Palpatine being so in tune with the force would be able to sense or detect a Force ghost or apparition, let alone one that intends on spying on him. Palpatine was exceptionally skilled at a technique known as "buried presence" or "force cloak," which allowed him to hide his connection to the Force and conceal his powers.
> It's also odd that the Trade Federation leaders are willing to take orders from Darth Sidious without knowing his real identity and seemingly having no curiosity about it.
"The Force can have a strong influence over the weak minded."
Palpatine's control of the Trade Federation began with Nute Gunray. He eliminated all other potential rivals and manipulated him to the top position all while offering Nute gifts and support to secure his position and loyalty. He bribed and blackmailed him, exploiting Gunray's ambition and greed while subtly manipulating events to help him secure the position of Viceroy. He made promises of wealth and power and control of the Trade Federation in exchange for loyalty and cooperation. Sidious' trustworthiness went as far as what it is that he was capable of delivering on and up until then, he did so while operating from the shadows and a distance. Sheev knew Gunray was a coward from the start.

>>214275002
>Qui-Gon tried to help her.
Look, i'm willing to let a lot of shit go for the plot to work, but while its clear that Quigon can't use his mind powers on watto because of his race, HE WAS ON A PLANET FILLED WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO COULD BE INFLUENCED. And don't say its because he wanted to do it right, because he still cheats with the chance cube.

1. Mind trick someone else
2. Get all the money you need
3. Buy both slaves freedoms
The movie is over.

>>214277230
>It seems as thought here is a threshold for how much force ghosts are capable of intervening with in material realm.

Sometimes it seems that way, like when Obi-Wan appears to Luke very faintly on Hoth and quickly disappears, as though he had been struggling to manifest himself. But he does tell Luke the secret of Yoda's hideout, which Luke would never have learned otherwise. He also helps Luke blow up the Death Star while he's a ghost, and that's a major intervention. I appreciate that Palpatine is crafty and has exceptional powers, but I still think the force ghosts could have been more helpful in this situation. If I was a jedi investigating some important mystery, one of the first things I'd do is go and see if the force ghosts knew anything about it.

>>214272742
>Objective morality exists in star wars.
I always wondered why none of the normal humans ever thought about extermination of all force users considering the amount of destruction Force users did to galaxy, disregarding the idea of good and evil side of the force. Just kill them all.

>>214273787
>Breaking news: Senator Sheev Palpatine arrested after conversation with Jedi investigators posing as a 14 year old Sith over the hologram
Fun fact: in the Expanded Universe lore Sheev portrays Mace Windu as a pedophile to the public and fabricates his diaries full of erotica about young padawans.

>>214277892
???
Order 66?

>>214263353 (OP)
Honestly the only plausible explanation is that everyone else in the galaxy was a complete retard. The senate, the jedi, Jar Jar, Yoda, the entire SW universe for that moment was full of the most dimwitted cunts in the entire universe.

>>214277945
Force on Force violence, I am talking about non users exterminating every force user in the Galaxy

>>214277672
>If I was a jedi investigating some important mystery, one of the first things I'd do is go and see if the force ghosts knew anything about it.
Sure, but communing with the dead is a skill that needs to be honed and trained and only a select few are capable of learning and being taught. Its not like you can just Skype up Master Ulic-Qel Droma or Master Vodo-Siosk Baas on a whim or a weekend. That, and the Force itself prevents ghosts from interfering. The Force is stopping dead Jedi from continuing to act like they're alive Jedi but invisible and capable of walking through walls. Force ghosts get to appear to certain individuals at key moments to facilitate their development, but they don't get to just do whatever, whenever. Yoda taught Obi-Wan to communicate with Force ghosts and Obi-Wan communicated with Luke because he was the last of the Jedi and crucial to re-balancing the Force so he had no choice.

Force Ghosts can:
>Manifest Physically
>Interact with Objects
>Alter the Environment:
>Use Telekinesis
>Appear and Communicate

What Force Ghosts Cannot Do:
>Directly Interfere in Major Conflicts: They cannot alter the outcome of conflicts or engage in a full-scale fight, even if it would directly benefit the light side.
>Act as Unstoppable Spies: Despite their ability to travel freely, they do not act as spies or report on conversations and events, even when it could be beneficial.
>Force Healing to Reverse Death: Force healing in the context of Force ghosts cannot reverse death, though it might be able to heal injuries in the living.
>Control Perception: They cannot choose who can see or hear them; this depends entirely on the viewer's strength in the Force.

>>214275002
So trve, except.
>Mace Windu has never been wrong once.

>>214269762
>disneyshit
post disregarded

They thought he was just a chud not a chudcel

>>214278189
>>>/wsg/5966040