Thread 214273337

Was America this degenerate back in the days?

Yeah young people actually used to fuck. The new gen are a bunch of sexless weirdos.

No. But movies like this were made to destroy civilization, and they succeeded.

>>214273337 (OP)
there's nothing degenerate about Superbad, it's quite wholesome actually.

>>214273337 (OP)
Fucking in highschool used to be considered normal.

>>214273337 (OP)
Yes, before" woke" shit ruined everything.

People used to call each other "Faggot", "retard" for laughs back in school.

I knew we were in trouble when you fat kids started throwing around the term 'fuckboy' like you somehow fatted your way all the way around the horseshoe until there is something inherently wrong with a guy who can successfully talk women into spreading their legs.
Shortly thereafter we apparently decided that morbidly obese women were attractive
Now you gruesome little shits don't even have to learn to write in your native language

>>214273337 (OP)
>Was America this degenerate back in the days?
Yes, now it's degenerate in even worse ways.

where is the brazilian girl in the right poster? and the proto-MILF? and the caring dad? those were the most iconic characters in the movie, I forgot all about the rest of those guys except stiffler

>>214273388
yes, having sex and reproducing is destroying civilization

>>214273611
>having sex
Hypergamy is niggerbrained behavior
>and reproducing
There's nothing about marriage or reproduction in sex comedies retard, movies and products like this played a major role in completely detatching sex from reproduction

>>214273362
I chuckled at the teen house party scene from that JLaw sex comedy.
>Doesn't anybody fuck anymore?!

>>214273441
nice ant sized gif, is that straight from the year the movie released or what? a character doing degenerate things does not make it a degenerate movie.
The scene he has with her towards the end of the movie is very sweet actually.

I'm gonna take it further now and say not only is this not a degenerate movie, it's anti-degenerate.

>>214273877
>my Jewish sex comedies are based actually
Why are Millennials like this

>>214273877
They were planning to drunk rape the girls.

>>214273932
>>214273954
It's not a sex comedy though. Evan decides against having sex because they're both too drunk for it.
Seth feels pressured to be drunk and have sex because he doesn't think the girl he likes would be into him if she was sober, so again they don't do anything.

Fagell gets laid because he deserves it

>>214273691
>marriage
oh I am talking to an incel. funny how those with 0 sex (and hence reproduction) try to lecture others about it. go vote another round for Trump so he can give your money to the billionaires and force women to work even more and the future being even more unstable, so couples have even less babies. but at the end it will be the liberals who ruined the civilization. lol

>>214273980
>wanting something other than meaningless sex is incel behavior
I'm convinced you're the incel here given you're the one talking about how what's virtually an overpriced masturbation/workout session is basically the greatest thing ever lol, meaningless sex is meaningless.
>go vote another round for Trump
>he thinks Zoomie chuds are Republicans
I shiggy the diggy

>>214274073
sex is still great and necessary in your 30s and 40s. for a horny teenager it is like oxygen. only complete freakshows like you grew up without experiencing sex in the youth. and no, not the act itself, but the intimacy with and feelings for another person. those things are like a completely different world for loners stuck in their daily cycle of work/study stress, masturbation, video games and social media.

>>214273611
>having alcohol induced sterile sex with promiscuous whores on birth control is the same as reproducing
This is your brain on reddit

>>214274289
>only complete freakshows like you grew up without experiencing sex in the youth
Nigger I'm the vast majority of men my age in that regard.
>the intimacy with and feelings for another person
Ah yes, "intimacy and feelings" are why you fuck a bunch of sluts in HS and college lmao
>those things are like a completely different world for loners stuck in their daily cycle of work/study stress, masturbation, video games and social media
Maybe you should stop and think about the things, processes, and evolving socioeconomic norms that led to this being the norm for an entire generation.

>>214274073
>meaningless sex
Imagine growing up without ever having felt loved. Or even more importanly, loved someone else. No wonder chuds are such terrible and socially inept people, having only ever cared about themselves.
>B-b-b-ut you can wait until marriage....
lol

>>214274289
>intimacy with and feelings for another person
>american pie movies
You can't be this retarded.

>>214274607
I regret never feeling these things I thought they would happen naturally but you really need to seek them out for yourself.

>>214273337 (OP)
the ultimate point of every single American Pie movie is that sex is awesome and boobs are awesome
the point of Superbad is that friendships are important

>>214274757
Their friendship was toxic as fuck.

Seth was an obnoxious asshole.

>>214274607
>Imagine growing up without ever having felt loved.
Unlike the vast majority of Americans, I grew up in a very loving and intact family that seriously loves me. I'm White, good-looking, and in decent shape despite being a manlet at 5' 7". And yet I still ended up with nothing outside of my family, money, and education as a result of things that were about a 1/3 in my control and 2/3 not. They are the only people that have ever loved me, and that is likely to be the case for the rest of my life.
>Or even more importanly, loved someone else
I had a GF once, she was 17 and I was 20. We were together for a few months before it all fell apart largely due to my own decisions and inexperience. I loved her but couldn't communicate that to her, while circumstances in my life at the time made it really difficult and later as I would find out impossible for me to stay together with her. In retrospect, she was pretty much my soulmate, but I fucked it up and now I'm spirited away to where I am now.
>having only ever cared about themselves.
Not prioritizing my own pleasure/well-being with regards to friends and love and instead pursuing educational and financial security/independence is the biggest reason I'm still alone.
>lol
And I bet you're alone too, only difference being you have sex every now and then with some random bitch

>>214274805
did you finish the movie?
also yes, that's the character he's a bit of a dick but not an irredeemable one. He's a stupid teenager, it's almost as if the movie is realistic that way

>>214274543
>Nigger I'm the vast majority of men my age in that regard.
no you are not, lol
>fuck a bunch of sluts in HS and college
American Pie was not about about that at all but the first sex and love of the protagonist. Have you even watched it? He thought he wanted hot sex with the brazilian sexbomb but at the end ended up with the nerd chick, being kind of a nerd himself.

I have not watched the other movie, I hate Seth Rogen.

>>214274893
The ending was gay as fuck. They said "I love you to each other ewwww.

>>214273337 (OP)
These movies are tame and chaste compared to the sex comedy standards of the 80's

I looked and acted exactly like McLovin...

>>214274907
>no you are not
Do you seriously think the average Zoomer guy in an affluent country has what the average person would call a good sex life?
>American Pie was not about about that at all but the first sex and love of the protagonist
I've never watched American Pie (though it's been on my list for some time), but that anon was not talking about American Pie, he was sepaking more broadly.

>>214274985
My only frame of reference for this movie is a joke from Family Guy. Is it quality sleazekino?

>>214274851
what random bitch? I have been together with my wife for almost 10 years.

as I have said, it is more about caring about someone else, especially outside the family. this whole part of pretending to be parents / household is why girls mature earlier, being interested in playing with dolls at an early age. at some point a boy also needs to mature. simply bringing food to the table does not cut it. of course you need to show you will take responsibility. that is what pre-marital relationships are good for. practice. I have never said the complete opposite of hookup culture is good.

that became so bad due to tinder, not because of teen flics which have been around since the 70s (Lemon Popsicle and such).

>>214273337 (OP)
>degenerate

>>214275258
>girls mature earlier
God you're old if you think that's still the case.
I guarantee you it's an extremely small minority of girls/women my age that are seriously interested in being parents or having kids. They hopped on birth control the second they turned about ~14 and then became terminally online in a different but equally toxic way the guys did.
>you need to show you will take responsibility
Are you a femanon? Zoomettes infamously refuse to take responsibility for anything and want us to do quite literally everything, and anything bad that happens to them for whatever reason is ALWAYS our fault. It's extremely rare to get a normal-ish girl my age in that regard, and I fucked up my one chance with that rare exception.
>that became so bad due to tinder, not because of teen flics which have been around since the 70s
It certainly didn't help, and it was the logical endpoint of that boomer, free-market sex mentality. I'd recommend you read picrel if you want a redpill about that from back in the day (1994).

>>214273337 (OP)
The Jews were planting the seeds for the degeneracy we now experience. These flicks are VERY Jewish

>>214273388
Amen
This anon knows

>>214274851
>being a manlet at 5' 7"
Explains all your posts.

Its so bizarre how fucking in hs was normal and yet body counts were still low...

>>214273533
You think men came up with the term "fuckboy"
It was women trying to reclaim their dignity and social capital after getting pumped and dumped you gay faggot

>>214274289
I suppose you also support Jewish hookup apps like Tinder eh heeb?

>>214275514
I have read two novels from Houllebecq. He was a grifter of frustrated young men decades before Sam Hyde or Jordan Peterson. You are doing no favors for yourself parroting his worldview. Just like with with the other manosphere types they only give feel-good "advice" meant to shift the blame for own shortcomings onto others and feel good about yourself. Even worse, to stop improving yourself or improving the wrong things. Turns out, simple solutions like washing your penis or going to gym do not increase chances of finding a girl significantly. What most incels lack is confidence and putting themselves into situations where they can meet women. In other words, humility and courage to expose yourself (as your true character) and be judged. Courage to handle a rejection, because of course an incel will be rejected by most women. And blaming society and all women in general for those rejections is not handling it, it is poisoning your mind and becoming toxic, thus further worsening your chances of finding a partner. Seriously, get out of that rabbithole.

>>214274999
NTA, but first of all I feel sad for you anon. I'm not american, so maybe there is some cultural difference as well and also probably a bit older than you, idk if I'm considered a zoomer, turning 27 in a couple of days.
The other anon is right. Doing everything in your power to get a girlfriend or hook up with a girl in HS is not meaningless sex. It is a rite of passage and contributes greatly to a young man's life. Experiencing teenage love is maybe one of the most important steps that leads to emotional maturity later in life. Basically american pie is about this.
I like it because I can relate. In my hs class, we were mostly a bunch of fucking nerds (advanced math specialty class) and still 2/3 of the boys had girlfriends and had sex by the time we graduated. For the rest it came in college. Guess what, none of us turned out to be a promiscous degenerate, some of us are married by now and have kids and the list of those is expanding rapidly
>Not prioritizing my own pleasure/well-being with regards to friends and love and instead pursuing educational and financial security/independence is the biggest reason I'm still alone.
Now I'm just sad for you anon, but this is copium. Normal people don't have to prioritize friends and love to have them. It just happens. You just find friends and you just find a girl with whom you just kind of gravitate towards each other until you become a couple. You don't have to tryhard to have these. Do you know what people don't like? Those who pretend to be so fucking focused on their education/job/hustle that they just so happen to not have time for anything right now. You know, the self important kind

>>214275032
Pretty much, Porky's with superpowers

>>214275514
>It's extremely rare to get a normal-ish girl my age in that regard
This shows how fucking clueless you are man, I swear to God. Most of the girls are normal. They may not behave normal sometimes, but they are I assure you. They want normal things. However to see that you have to leave the spectator position. Women in general are very malleable and they respond to authority just as much if not more as to societal pressure.

>>214273877
i still dress like mclovin and i dont care

>>214273337 (OP)
American Pie is (at times) wholesome, tasteful and (at times)[/spoilers] even mature in depicting young relationships compared to whatever they make nowadays.

>>214273337 (OP)
Sort of. These movies are what boomers wanted millennials to be doing because they wanted to live vicariously through them. teenagers probably had the most sex in the 70's and its been a slow decline from there. when i was in highschool (late 2000s) it was a pretty big deal to have had sex, by senior year i had sex with 2 girls which was kind of big, there was only two other guys in my year who had bagged more chicks

>>214275889
Porky's sucks.

>>214273337 (OP)
This is Jewish media

>>214275586
>muh heightpill
Height alone doesn't determine that stuff as much as heightcels and tall guys would say so. On nearly every other level be it looks, build, money, education, or background I'm satisfactory to great for most mates.
>>214275855
>He was a grifter of frustrated young men decades before Sam Hyde or Jordan Peterson
How was Houllebecq a "grifter of frustrated young men" decades before the internet or modern terminally online culture war niggerism, he wasn't even American or young for that matter. That book was simply an observation of the direction society was going judging by trends he was estimating, which turned out to be prescient.
>manosphere types they only give feel-good "advice" meant to shift the blame for own shortcomings onto others and feel good about yourself
Most "manosphere" types are either bootstrap mentality shills pushed by the system like JP or they're glorified niggers like Tate pushing an edgier version of that.
>putting themselves into situations where they can meet women
Except there's literally no situation or third place present anywhere where you can meet women anymore. It's not socially acceptable nor commonplace to do so lest you be branded as a predator or pervert by some bitch at bookstores, work, gyms, or bars. Pretty much the biggest reason I'm going back to college is so I can be in one of the only socially acceptable environments to meet women left before I'm doomed to be some sad lonely fuck for the rest of my life.
>Courage to handle a rejection, because of course an incel will be rejected
Except I can't even find the women to reject me in the first place ANYWHERE. I'm in the urban Southwestern U.S.
>humility and courage to expose yourself (as your true character) and be judged
Most women in the U.S interpret this as weakness, they only want you to show emotion in certain contexts that are socially acceptable to them and signal virtue, i.e the "guy crying at Titanic" meme.

>>214273388
>And when the guy said "I am McLovin" that's when I knew the West was finished.

>>214273337 (OP)
What, you never seen Porkys?

>>214276555
American pie and cruel intentions really popularized cunnilingus and had some pitching soundtracks. Barely breathing and flagpole sitta are awesome.

>>214275889
Sounds fun, might watch.
>>214276117
>Most of the girls are normal. They may not behave normal sometimes, but they are I assure you.
>They want normal things
>young White American women in urban areas
>want normal things

>>214276985
Houllebecq has always been putting on a show. Do you think the greasy clothes he wears for interviews are what he truly is like at home, being a millionaire? He is not wrong in what he is saying, but he is not providing any solutions. Or his audience refuses to listen and just takes his stories to enrage itself
>Pretty much the biggest reason I'm going back to college is so I can be in one of the only socially acceptable environments to meet women left before I'm doomed to be some sad lonely fuck for the rest of my life.
Are you schooler from /adv/? It might be easier in college but only if you take the opportunities right from the beginning. No girl will magically come to you if you dont do extracurricular activities etc
>Most women in the U.S interpret this as weakness
Nobody said anything about being emotional. Just be yourself without trying to be cool so you could shrug off the rejection as "she rejected my avatar, not me". Of course not telling on the first date you are a virgin is ok, just dont pretend to be a Chad.
>Except I can't even find the women to reject me in the first place ANYWHERE. I'm in the urban Southwestern U.S.
Umm, then move somewhere else? The cities are full of people who abandoned rural areas because they were boring, even if they could earn more money, pay less rent or take over parents farm there. That is neither a simp nor an incel thing to do

>>214275874
>Experiencing teenage love is maybe one of the most important steps that leads to emotional maturity later in life.
I had COVID fuck over my Junior and Senior years of HS where that stuff would happen. I also moved my freshman year to my HS so I had no friendgroups or connections to anyone there and had to make it all from scratch. I only have two people I'd still consider friends from my HS days that I still talk to, and one of them lost contact with me a year ago and the other is thousands of miles away.
>it came in college
I signed up for college next spring because of that. I got my associates and gen eds out of the way after HS, but all the classes there were mostly online and nobody was there to interact with each other at all. Maybe it's an American thing, idk. But my college years as a result were very introspective, quiet times for me where I was either with myself or at work.
>some of us are married by now and have kids and the list of those is expanding rapidly
You're definitely exceptional then. Outside of the very religious nobody, and I mean nobody are having kids here.
>Normal people don't have to prioritize friends and love to have them. It just happens.
Maybe it's from COVID or me moving around a lot, but no matter what I could never get any real friends anywhere I went or anything I did. I even got a little blackpilled because I asked for a number from a coworker the other day I really liked hanging out with, and he basically gave me a long no in spite of this. I got my last GF was a result of that (she was the ex-girlfriend of a female coworker I was friendly with), but I just haven't been able to do anything since.
>pretend to be so fucking focused on their education/job/hustle
I have to actually be on that East Asian grindset because I'm a White American and you get no gibs or help from anyone other than your family, and if they're not rich you've got to slave away to have a shot at maybe owning a house and getting a good job.

>>214277465
>Do you think the greasy clothes he wears for interviews are what he truly is like at home
Anon... he's a Boomer from France. They're greasy as hell.
t. failed French Foreign Legionnaire who was there last year
>/adv/
No.
>It might be easier in college but only if you take the opportunities right from the beginning
That is my intention. I'm pretty much going to dedicate my life to college shit over the next 5 years and maybe rest of my life if I get a job at a University, so I'll have plenty of opportunities to do so I will take.
>Just be yourself without trying to be cool
Yeah, but myself is the dark, quiet stoic type that's considered "scary" or "weird" for younger women. Literally the F. Scott Fitzgerald stereotype of the cerebral Celt. So I always have to put on a facade anyways, though my last GF was as I said a rare exception because she was of the same demographic profile.
>move somewhere else
Anon, you can't just "move somewhere else" in the U.S given how expensive housing and rent is. I intend on moving back to Minnesota after I graduate with my aforementioned friend to get a place while I study for my Master's and get a job at the university to get my residency.
>rural areas
Rural areas in the U.S have been hit extremely hard by drug abuse for the past decade. I'm not exaggerating when I say the opioid problem in the U.S is at Vodka in 90s urban Russia levels of desperation and sadness for the current rural U.S.