Thread 214288589

Another kino episode

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We LOOOOOVE Blowing Up Planets

So I guess they're really going with Beta being the mule

rip Fartmaster18

>>214288589 (OP)
damn how did they create a real live version of the girl from Brave? fukin uncanny

Dusk wildin this ep

the brother day part of this episode was god awful. lee pace deserves better.

>>214288644
the force is female?

>>214288818
they are sprinting to deliver the skull by the 10th episode

>>214288589 (OP)
>acnowledging the existence of woke shit at all
kek

>>214288818
i thought it was funny when he called the priest a dead man

>>214288644
i dont buy it at all, but im buying the theory more than ever that the musician guy is the mule's baby brother given what he said during the meeting with gaal

what i want to know is how they'll get to trantor and gaal ending up in a black hole. the last episode is going to have to be a speed run of a battle since they need to not only get across the galaxy but need to wrap up the rest of the stories like day getting the skull back to the palace in a few hours and what happened to the second foundation's hari.

>>214288644
They baby in the flashback is a boy so I'm putting my chips on the bald guy. It would make more sense narratively to make beta the mule because reveal would be more impactful.

>>214288589 (OP)
There's nothing kino about this awful series

It is weird to kill your older boy instead of the baby boy. So they were either killing baby magnifico and he killed them or they were killing fake mule instead of beta because girls are more valuable on their planet, kind of like chinese were killing girls, and she protected him.

>>214288589 (OP)
I want to kill her in a brutal way for making this stupid pudgy face. I can't be the only one.

>>214289639
I think the flashback might be allegorical. Like the real Mule implanted his backstory into the warlord guy and he translated it into figures familiar to him.

>>214289478
The Foundation has Whisper ships that can move anywhere. So getting to the blackhole isn't a problem. Locating it might be, but with 3 shots, it might be traingulatable.

>>214289800
>Locating it might be, but with 3 shots, it might be traingulatable.
ooh that would be a good bit of writing

They really bending backwards to keep him in the show

>>214290136
If you finally managed to keep Jared Harris to stick around, you don't mess with your luck.

>>214288589 (OP)
I'm not watching this. Which of the books are worth reading?

>>214288644
NGL that would be an interesting twist, because although I figured back in episode three that Euron Greyjoy wasn't the actual mule, I thought they'd just follow the book and make the Magnifico the mule.

Still wondering how Kalle fits into the greater narrative however. Her being a robot was hinted at in season two, but up until tonight's episode, I thought that she might be an agent of Gaia.

>>214288589 (OP)
and again the empire carries it hard

The only thing I don't like is the handwaving space magic of the black hole "novacula" in that simultaneously they can communicate across literal galactic distances with zoom holograms, but at the same time the superweapon can fire and kill of 2 entire planets that are likely thousands if not tens of thousands of light years from each other in the span of less than 60 seconds.

>>214291645
I'm gutted we didn't get to see at least a glimpse of Cloud Dominion's home world.

>>214291645
yet somehow you can swallow spaceships folding space, immortal humanoid robot, nanites, clone dinasty and working crystal ball...

>>214291852
and britbongs doing hokey 'american' accents.

Empire absolutely killed it with their superweapon. No spectacle, just poof and planet's a cloud of dust. Surgical in use but literally world ending in consequence. It's crazy they actually made planet killer scary again after what Star Wars did to ruin them.

>>214291645
I am curious about how it works. We only need to know it's a giant space laser in function but they insisted on calling it a bomb for whatever reason. Like is what they're actually doing sending a warp vector that sends whatever it hits directly into the black or something?

>>214291125
All of the ones written by Asimov himself

>>214288744
>>214289775
>girl
Lol

>>214292263
>Character confides in a tranny and then scrambles his brains
What does Goyer mean by this?

>>214288589 (OP)
kill yourself retarded faggot

>>214292263
yes

>>214289320
>woke
reddit

If the robots rise again they're all fucked :O

>>214292985
kino incoming

>Stomps filthy fucking rodents to death
>builds space guns
>kills billions
>teaches traitors a lesson
>defends Empire
>the only person to get Euron Greyjoy to shut the fuck up

Why are they painting him as the bad guy? Are modern writers really this out of touch?

>>214293041
he ate the lamb brain, he's obviously evil!

>>214293041
>Why are they painting him as the bad guy?
What episode did you watch?
The only one painting him as a bad guy was that bitchy ass side piece.

>>214292099
yeah but it's shown as a death star beam of energy. I wish it was just shown as a flash of energy and the planets blowing up instead, like it actually did travel FTL to get to the target

>>214293041
They better not kill off the Cleons this year. I know that Empire has to die and that plotline on Trantor will come to an end eventually but I think they can somehow eek out one more season since they're probably not going to wrap up the mule completely this season with the tweest on who the mule actually is.

>>214293131
if they renew it'll be one more season about robots reshaping the galaxy and rising up

>>214293041
>Creates something new for the adaption
>Tells actors that they'll only be around for two seasons at most
>Says they'll feature heavily in the first season
>Storyline featuring them absolutely trounces ostensible subject of the show
>Major hit with the audience
>Expands their roles a bit in the second season due to audience reaction
>Trounces everything in the second season
>"Well...I guess we'll have to keep them around then, even if it goes against the story we want to tell"
>Trounces everything in the third season
How did Pace, Mann, and Bilton get away with this?

>>214293141
they were planning like 8 seasons, they haven't even covered that much of the books anyways despite adding a ton of new material with empire.

They could even do a spinoff with the robots, I don't see how it doesn't get renewed though it is probably apple's most expensive show. That said this season it seems to be getting a lot more attention than it has in previous seasons so hopefully that's a good thing. Even on /tv/ I would barely see foundation threads in the past and now there's almost always one in the catalog.

the whole premise of the source story is that the Empire's fall is predictable and inevitable no matter what any specific individual tries to do.

>>214293189
just seems like the cleons are the most attractive part of the show and that they can't go on much longer
this entire season has been over the course of weeks and days

>>214293192
psychohistory is just trumped up "all things eventually fall/die". Of course empire ends at some point.

>>214293131
>>214293141
I wonder where they're going to go after the mule arc, since even Asimov himself had trouble with that. Besides Kalle and something about Andromeda, what have they set up for following seasons? Like if the mule arc isn't resolved this season, are they going to use next season to set up that he's from Gaia like in the books? Are they going to do Foundation and Earth, and will we see what their version of the Aurorans look like?

>>214293222
>psychohistory is just trumped up "all things eventually fall/die".
No.

>>214288589 (OP)
... oh yeah, this is still going on... maybe I'll torrent few episodes and give it another go

>>214293189
If anything they are going to do cleon spin off, cleons are supposed to end this season and people love empire stuff

>>214288589 (OP)
The only part of the show I have seen is clips on YouTube that have the Cleons and Demerzel in. How is the rest of the show with the actual Foundation stuff?

>>214293131
I woudn't mind. Season 3 is the last one headed by Goyer. His replacement is Ian Goldberg who will certainly run it into the ground.

what happened to the brother dawn that got away last season?

>>214293302
The actual Foundation stuff comes across as an afterthought.

>>214293163
This is what happens when you cast you 3/4 best actors in a plotline that is supposed to be wrapped up after one season. Gaal is the Foundation plotline and the person they have playing her is an atrocious actor.

>>214288589 (OP)
This show has some really unsettlingly ugly people in it

Every screnshot I see of this show looks like shit. Asimov is turning in his grave.

>>214293316
Dawn didn't get away last season. Demerzel snapped his neck in the throneroom after Day decided to keep him around.

>>214293401
That was season 1 Dawn not the one that escaped Trantor with pregnant Sareth last season

>>214293311
>Season 3 is the last one headed by Goyer
That doesn't give me much hope for the future of the show, anon.
>>214293316
The same thing that happened to the Anacreans after the first season: lol, lmao even.

>>214293380
Godd, what a fucking hack!

>>214288644
who?

>>214294147
I'm still wondering where that subplot is leading.

>>214293837
The cutie in the hospital with Dawn.

>>214294234
That kid is going to turn out to be the real mule lol

>>214293041
dusk and day carry this shit show hard

>>214294510
You jest, but I could honestly see something like that happen...or at the very least she turns out to be an agent of Gaia

>>214293302
Hard to watch

>>214294534
and demerzel, gaal, magnetifico, mule, toran, the princess, 2 henchmen of mule, robot priest (now deceased) and bayta
honorary mentions: spores and the big gun

>>214294565
The mule could transfer his mind into her body to escape at the last second.

>>214288589 (OP)
"In my last hours, I will not bow to a usurper named after a farm animal"

>>214291645
In the scene where the Empire destroys Maiden it looks like ray comes out from some sort of a portal

>>214288589 (OP)
Why are actresses' eyes getting further apart?

>>214293302
Fine enough in season 1 since they were still part of the mythmaking mystery box. Much, much worse since then because the Piemaker(s) shenanigans are too kino for just one Cleon to contain. If they didn't have the Foundation to dump their wokeness into though, they'd have ended up tarnishing the true stars of the show.

>>214295673
Why does he even want to called mule? It sounds more like slander name that his enemies would call him.
Ya ya I get the reference that he's kinda like drug mule. But would you want to be called mule. Maybe he just likes mules. Who knows. I'm just randomly rambling.

>>214290136
Jared Harris is kino incarnate, so it's understandable

>>214295750
That's another planet, the gas giant Maiden orbited. Anyone got the clip or a webm yet?

>>214288818
I don't like that he 180'd

>>214288744
>>214292263
It amazes me how easy is to fool some people with make-up.
They pumped the child full of hormones before puberty and likely added a nose job. The face aside (remove the hair for a better idea), the voice is still one of prepubescent boy.

>>214288632
>oh and this...is just a notice

>>214288632
>oh that offer expired

>>214295891
it's very common to take an insult and turn into a beloved nickname like "yankee".

>>214295955
The blonde caretaker of Gaal in the first/second episode was nother example. Same boy-like voice and off facial features. They are pushing it hard. Not to mention a man in a female wig in the performance during the Empire's trial.

>>214288738
Tony Stark, noooooooooooooo!

>>214296030
Or "Christians" even.

>>214296033
meh i give scifi a pass for gender bending stuff. it's a giant galaxy with billions of cultures far in the futures there's bound to be some dudes who look like ladies

>>214291843
i heard that they cut the budget this season

>>214291645
they open a wormhole for the beam, there's no other way

>>214295955
Meds! Now!

>>214293316
His plotline got vaporized this episode. Them not having a plotline with Cloud Dominion trying to install a pretender was a waste.

>>214296073
>It's ma'am!
Lore-like, agree. However, it is to teach the viewers to distrust the uncanny feeling they'd normally get that something's off with a person's appearance. It is social engineering and perception moulding 101.
I guess that normally sometimes an androgynous person happens to pop up here and there and in today's world that is a personal tragedy. Nobody forces them to become actor after all, which will surely make them undergo scrutiny from the general public.
Yet the "progressive" media folk cherrypick such people. It started with Almodovar, I think; hence him being praised by leftist media "experts" so much at the time.

>Gaal used Dawn as a pawn to kill..... BILLIONS
>Day killed BILLIONS in past seasons
>Dusk kills BILLIONS upon BILLIONS upon BILLIONS
>Demrezel has probably killed TRILLIONS

>>214295899
Made it

>>214293141
>if they renew it'll be one more season about robots reshaping the galaxy and rising up
it cant. the series ends with foundation 2 winning and everyone becoming psychics and humanity expanding to fight a war in the andromeda galaxy against an alien civilization.

>>214296404
quality is a bit off bud

Part of me thinks magnifico is the mule because...fucking pic related, come on, but part of me thinks he may be a red herring specifically because it would be expected

>>214296375
...to save quadrillions

What if they M Night Shamalya twist this and Toran Mallow is actually the Mule

>>214296437
I'¨m sorry if it's not enough your princelingcy

>>214296449
Did Magnifico brainwash himself into loving the "Mule" to trick Gaal when she reads his mind?

So...is Trantor going to buy it in the last ep.?

>>214296370
Do you do it for free? You don't even have original entries. Do you actually believe that you will convince anyone here, on 4chan?

You shall not sway the noticers! Begone, Redditor!

>>214295865
It is a shame though. There is great potential in the source material.

>>214294234
isnt it obvious? he has a thing for kids because he had a traumatic childhood.

where are you getting that sexo bayta is the mule

>>214296564
its a big theory on the subreddit

Gaal's actress isn't great by any means, but the way they write her really exaggerates the problem. The way she uses her mentallic powers is much more passive, and less animated. She's just standing still half the time, and swapping places like the *Le teleports behind you and cuts off head with Katana in one fell swoop" meme but done in action.

This is inbetween scenes where you're tasked with great philosophical questions, and impactful stealth action scenes with other characters who have a much greater sense of risk because they aren't protected by being the driving force of Hari Seldons plan in the plot.

It's really a 2fold problem with her unfortunately.

>>214296564
my best clue was that she told the "mule" to fuck off when he tortured little cleon and he abided

>>214288589 (OP)
is this that chick that played Catwoman on Gotham? I havent seen her in anything in a while

>>214296564
why are people even so hell bend on that the mule isn't the actual mule?
something from the books?

>>214296706
yeah but gaal is hot

>>214296793
dump trukk

>>214296762
everyone is looking for a twist these days

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vCJfIV1mZsw&pp=ygUVRG9udCBmdWNrIHdpdGggZW1waXJl
So…it’s a wave motion gun, also heard it called a Pembrose Mirror

Demrezel's plot is kino
what a monologue to dusk, shame he didn't really give a fuck

>>214296833
she's terrible even in the way she walks

>>214296762
Magnifico is the Mule in the books. The warlord is a red herring. Magnifico wants to find the Second Foundation and destroy it. Spoilers.

could the superweapon gotten the new terminus station while leaving the planet unharmed?

>>214296914
if that's true then you could've used spoiler tags!
but i guess magnifico is the only thing that would make sense if it was anyone else being the mule than the warlord mule anyway

>>214296862
i thought it was a penrose process

>>214296966
it was magnifico but he mind transferred to beta since he loved her

>make a shit product exploiting a famous IP
>wrap the "plot" as a "mystery box"
>it works
>it works every time

the JJ Abrams Way

>>214296951
>Blows up le 3 different planets because you have to be petty and one up the last genocidal Cleon who set the standard for treason punishments
>now the mule will be able to triangulate the weapons location, and use the whisper ships to easily get there and take it over it the trademarked mind powers

all you had to do is be benevolent and spare fucking the virgin planet Dusk

someone give me a fucking spoiler already, who is this bitch ? ayy lmao, the main character from the future, a robot, some kind of being from the fourth dimension ?

>>214297083
she literally said she's a robot

>>214297028
I hope not. I think the "Mule" is just listening to Bayta because Magnifico gave him the command to be nicer to her.

>Sir, we need to explain higher dimension but can't find any pen or paper.
>Say no more!

>>214297041
OK explain how is the foundation tv show a "mystery box"?
I see you faggots calling everything mystery box these days. Which is made up shit anyway.

>>214297113
i didnt understand what they were saying. i think i did but it wasnt making sense to me. i think i missed something that was said.

>>214297052
"I've always felt naming a planet The Maiden was just asking for it to be deflowered"

>>214297161
You can twist an object to make it disappear and reappear in lower dimensions. That's how they will move them into the space station. Twisting and folding space itself.
Vault is probably the most powerful thing in the universe.

>>214297083
The other half of Daneel.

>>214297083
i don't know, but she's black, so she's probably smarter and more capable than other characters in the show of the same rank (in this case demerzel)

>>214296375
..to make apple billions

>>214297083
wasn't this who harry was fucking when he was alive?

>>214296833
>raining
more like damp truck

>>214297619
Their acting is so sloppy there
>alright just walk cautiously operator-style and look left and right at nothing in particular

>>214297619
that bubble butt buck is the absolute worst part of the season. worse that gaal even. you can skip every single scene he is in

>>214297083
she's a robot. In season 2 her eyes glowed red exactly like Demerzel's

>>214288589 (OP)
>Another kino episode
one more week then three yeors of waiting

>>214297489
no she died centuries before hari was born

>>214297772
>>214297489

this is what happens when they insist on hiring le confident strong black woman for a quarter of the characters. it's just confusing

>>214297120
>half the posts are about who's the Mule
>is it this guy
>is it that guy
>how is the foundation tv show a "mystery box"

>>214297719
I like the boob window guy, so I'm not skipping.

>>214297742
>then three yeors of waiting
Thanks for reminding us.

>>214288589 (OP)
It's shit and you're retarded to pretend otherwise...or a fat female but the net result is the same.
>>214288632
>>214288644
>>214288738
Shills.

>>214292954
LOL
Cope, tranny

>>214297831
I don't think you understand what a mystery box show is

>>214297742
its 3 years until the next season?

if they drop empire they are making the biggest mistake of the series. i don't care how much it works in the story no one is going to watch another strong black woman show

>>214298804
>mule is about to kill gaal
>last minute she transfers consciousness to day
>mule kills gaal but day kills mule from behind
>"...nothing personnel"

>>214298045
Two. Apple is contracted to do the WHOLE of Foundation. Est. completion, 2037.

>>214299347
nice

>>214288632
oh now I remembered where I saw this guy before. he was the goof on bicycle in Critters movie