Thread 214311213

This was always better than The Sopranos and The WIre.

nah, its damn good but you're smoking crack if you think it's Sopranos/Wire/Mad Men/Leftovers tier

>>214311223
First two seasons clear all those shows even if the final season sucked.

Deadwood has a problem with literally nothing fucking happening in it

>>214311313
I'd disagree, every character goes through some kind of arc that ends up impacting their relationship with everyone else in a way that feels earned. Very few shows have accomplished that and this is why Deadwood deserves to be considered as much of a "Televised Novel" as Mad Men.

>>214311313
It’s supposed to be le subversive western realism so it sets up a bunch of shootouts and leaves you blue balled when they don’t happen

I love the dialogue though I could listen to them go back and forth for hours

>>214311213 (OP)
>>214311223
>People still legitimately believe The Wire is one of the greatest shows of all time and not just called that cause it has black people in it

>>214311550
It’s the only show where black people at least somewhat act like the moronic sociopathic criminals they all are

what was the actual plan with the season 3 finale? the town is filed with gunmen on both sides and then hearst just leaves

also, i know you can't win either way with a resolution 10 years later in regard to which characters are still around and if they are the same as before, but the doc is practically on death's door in season 3 and then perfectly fine 10 years later in the movie

>>214311213 (OP)
Except the wire sucks

>>214311683
Well, there was a build up of tensions all season with the Pinkertons and the rest of the town. Hawkeye (damn his hide) was tasked with buying mercs. I'm not sure if they got the call it was cancelled before or after they completed season 3, because everything seems wrapped up except for that.
There was talk of finishing it was a two part miniseries but nothing became of that.

As for Doc, well he is a skilled doctor and not everybody died from tuberculosis. They probably just wanted to have Brad Dourif back.

>>214311550
retards are still willing to dismiss the Wire just because it has black people in it

>have to keep subtitles on for every deadwood episode and half of the wire

thats why the sopranos will always be better

>>214311683
> what was the actual plan with the season 3 finale
To leave you feeling cucked. The show is an anti-western.

>>214311213 (OP)
I thought I was the only one. The Wire is a close second for me.

>>214311890
>just admitting your IQ is low so brazenly like that
Dood

>>214311890
Gabagoo, me low IQ ape.

>>214311287
>clear

Don't keep trying to spread that. It's fucking cringe and no one's going for it.

>>214311313
more happens in the first season of deadwood than happens in the entire run of most shows

>>214311683
The real deadwood burned down and had it gone on to a 4th season I always assumed Al would set the match, as he even said he would, but I guess they wrapped it up awkwardly and it never came to that

Luck is also great if you love Milch. And of course the first 8 or 9 seasons of NYPD Blue, although the show continues to be great without him.

>>214311847
Actually the worst part of the wire is every single cop, oh sorry, every single a police

>>214312041
if you love milch then john from cincinnati is the absolute peak and there is nothing else.

>>214312221
Strangely that's the only thing I've never been able to get into. I've tried watching it three times in ten years and never get past episode three. I hate everything about it. Must be the guy who he co-created it with and all the surfing shit getting in the way of whatever they're trying to do. People who love that show really love it but I can't do it. It just won't take.

>>214311213 (OP)
Obviously.

>>214311213 (OP)
Is it better than Breaking Bad though

>>214312643
Any show is better than BrBa. The average WB/CW show, even.

>>214311287
The Final Season still had great highs like Dan's fight. Two top henchmen just going at it and it's hard for others to even understand why. Honestly the show's gunless violence is all great.

>>214312643
Nah

>>214311213 (OP)
I can't take timothy elephant seriously after seeing him in Justified.

>>214311213 (OP)
only season 1 is worth watching. Its like that netflix show bloodline. Season 1 is absolute fucking kino so it got renewed for more seasons but one of their best characters becomes a side character and the whole show falls apart in season 2 onward and afterwards you are angry at how bad it got.

>>214313862
Deadwood is not like some shit netflix show that anyone was angry that it got bad. It was a triumph from start to finish. The movie was closure enough I suppose. Bittersweet.

>>214311223
Rome, Deadwood and The Shield are all better than the slop you mentioned.

>>214312709
For me, it's Mrs, Garret creaming her panties while Bullock beats the shit out of her father.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_gSf5tzVu8

>>214311975
even in the first season after Bill's gone it started to drag. in the second season they kept introducing interesting characters but then they would have no impact, just added to the crowd revolving around Swearengen.

>>214311495
>I love the dialogue though I could listen to them go back and forth for hours

you and me both brother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFDYAz5LFjc

>>214312396
jesus walked on water.

>>214311824
>They probably just wanted to have Brad Dourif back.
A sentiment we can all agree upon.

>>214314489
I was worried someone would discover that and start using it here for true racism. I love it when he offers to partner up with the General while still cursing him. And then the General ends up taking care of him. What a pitiful character who got what he had coming; being even more retarded than he was.

SWEGIN
WHITE COCKSUCKA

>>214311890
Nothing with Dagos in it will ever be good.

>>214314740
>I was worried someone would discover that and start using it here for true racism
Don't be so fucking pathetic anon.

>>214314740
he did not fuck that horse

>>214314740
its because it was such a vitriolic caricature combined with a comedy of errors that no one decided that the guy jerking off on a horse, who got kicked in the head by a horse, and tended to by a nigger, was a proper face for legitimate racism, you dumb fuck

>>214315406
>Racism is a crime against humanity and should be met with swift justice.

>>214315514
maybe watch deadwood sometime, its a good show

>>214315514
Hooplehead

>You ofay motherfuckers!
Why'd he do it?

>>214315406
Fuck off, bigot. This is a blue board.

>>214316799
He had pride and he wasn't a liar. All his life he had to put up with ignorant whites not giving him the benefit of the doubt when he was truly honorable. He was very serious about that as he demonstrated.

>>214316799
WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER

>>214316826
You are quite pathetic.

>>214316988
I feel the same way about you.

i wonder what attracts joanie to the smelly drunk that is jane but then consider that any concept of disgust must by necessity be burned away for whores, especially in that time

I'm trying to watch this show one more time. I just don't buy this world where all the press is so obsessed with some surfer kid. There's no reality where there's a swarm of reporters waiting outside the beach bum shack of some teenager who got gnarled by a wave. Between that and the metaphysical jesus guy walking around repeating everything and all these side characters and the grandparents' domestic arguments... where the FUCK is this going??
I'm already baked off my ass. Strict drug regimen to keep my mind limber. Still I can't dig this series. I'll power through it because I'm running out of old HBO that I haven't seen, but I hope I start liking it soon.

>>214311313
Wild Bill Hickock gets shot in the back
Al Swearingens gang murders like two who saw the robbery
The Englishman gets scammed with the gold mine
And these are just the big ones. The best shit is to see Timothy Oliphants character trying to hold his burning rage.

>>214317332
Jane has a way with words and she's loyal. She cleans up okay too. You have to remember that even though those people (especially the drunkards) often walked around stinking to high heaven they usually bathed before having sex. Especially the type of place Joanie keeps. There were skanks at the Gem who'd lay with anyone and we even learn that they stink themselves without some boss madame like Joanie or even just someone with sense like Trixie telling them to get it together.
Notice some characters clearly hate the disgusting aspects of life back then. Like when Silas comes to town and he really just wants a bath before he has to do anything else.

>>214317485
Don't forget the bloodbath George Hearst brings to town.
Very complex stuff. I had to watch again and pay close attention to figure out what happened to Aunt Lou's son and I'm still not 100% sure what happened and why.

There's certainly an attention barrier that a lot of idiots and zoomers have to get past for shows like Deadwood. There's no scrolling on your phone with Deadwood on for your first watch through. Not if you want to truly understand everything going on. I love shows that don't dumb it down. It's almost a challenge for some people to follow the dialogue of characters like E.B. White, but I get off on the lush speech. Once in a while some character on NYPD Blue would spin some wild phrasings and you knew Milch was having some fun on that script.

>>214312041
based, I strongly believe this could have an been an all-timer if it wasn't prematurely cancelled. that said, Milch said in his memoir that he wasn't happy with the direction or the finished product (he wasn't allowed on-set to work his magic) and was happy enough that it was cancelled.
>>214314154
fuck yes. and god the scene when she strips and she's wearing that see-through undergarment with visible nips... an Experience With God

>>214311223
>leftovers
LOL

>>214317671
>fuck yes. and god the scene when she strips and she's wearing that see-through undergarment with visible nips... an Experience With God
the actress and character held up well after 10 years in the movie as well

>>214311213 (OP)
>this show is better than shit
some bar to clear

Couldn't stand Calamity Jane and had to quit. Saying cocksucker isn't a character. What an absolute piece of shit show

>>214317855
Such low test that a literal woman is more masculine than you. Shameful not just to you but to several generations of your family line

>>214317855
you would've loved steve the drunk

>>214311213 (OP)
Imagine getting attacked by a some injun who tries to annoy you to death

CHEYANNE AND BLACK HILLS TELEGRAPH COMPANY. TELEGRAPH FOR MR ANON

>>214318121
Thank you.
>You are a homo faggot STOP Go suck some big black cock STOP
Two cents gratuity for this one, Blazanov.

>>214318121
it's an interesting aspect of deadwood how al slowly turns nearly everybody into his foot soldiers

>>214318170
ad fucking hoc. free fucking gratis

>>214311213 (OP)
Not a high bar but yes
>>214311223
It is you who smokes the crack, my enemy

>>214317671
No shit? I need to get my hands on that memoir. Luck would have been even better then... interesting.

>>214317747
Most Contrarian post of the thread so far. Are you proud of yourself?
Go fire up another Shield thread why doncha?

>>214317855
Dude you missed out. Well, I guess you didn't. Because you clearly have shit taste if you bailed for that reason. Swearengen saying it didn't bother you? Was it "unladylike"?
Filtered.

>>214311213 (OP)
Not in the least. First of all, if I want an accurate historical piece I'll read a book. I watch tv series for fiction not something where as a writer you do not have the freedom to do what you want because you would be disregarding actual history. Second of all it spins its wheels too much for that to be true.

>>214318121
I liked that guy. I liked most of the characters. Some I loathed. The sign of a good show. Cy Tolliver was evil scum.

>>214318254
She was extremely obnoxious both before and after her character reveal
Swearingin was a villain/rival whose misbehavior defines the central plot of the show, calamity was just an annoying bitch in and out of the setting because she was written by idiots who must deconstruct everything and make it gay, raped and "punk"

>>214318269
It plays with that all the time. There are meta jokes like "Did people really talk like that back then?" And the guy just making up Hickock's "dead man's hand" as part of his ever-widening tale of the murder he witnessed.

You go read your history books and watch your sci-fi and fantasy superhero slop. Deadwood is too limited to be enjoyable.

>>214318302
lol, cute bait. You're really out of your element.

>>214318311
>your sci-fi and fantasy superhero slop
Damn, you got real mad. Why would you make such a childish assumption? Did you think you'd look smart doing it?

I skip every single Jane scene, what a useless character.

>>214311213 (OP)
Deadwood is overrated as fuck. I don't remember a single episode of the show.

>>214314740
heckin faggarino

>>214316826
>>>/r/eddit is that way friendo

I just finished this recently.
Season 1 was so good, the show really shined when it was just random shenanigans going on, wild bill, al's schemes etc

Season 2 and 3 was a fucking slog, like really boring except from a few moments. a very little plot strung out over 2 seasons. All that shit about the annexation/politics and hearst just wasnt interesting enough to drag out over 2 seasons.

Also trixie was really fucking annoying from the start of season 2. I couldn't stand the bitch, just angry at everyone, smoking and flying off the handle at the jew who should have smacked the taste out her mouth.

Nothing tops season 2 of the wire. That could be a stand alone mini series and it tops most things ive ever watched. Yes it starts off slow but all seasons of the wire did. Its kino

>>214318490
>overrated
Barely anyone even knows about it.

>>214318388
>look smart

You people act like this isn't an anonymous forum. I don't give a fuck what you think of me. If you're so dismissive of Deadwood because it's grounded in reality you're a fucking idiot and you must like idiot fare. You have no idea the creative liberties they take in these historically set shows. Look at Rome or Borgias or any of them. They jumble shit around and add whatever they want. They don't have to adhere to shit.

>>214311213 (OP)
It's not, but it gets close. The first two seasons are some of the best television ever produced but the third season and the movie are just a little worse and make it not a perfect show. Still, one of the best. Ever.

>>214319233
>Look at Rome or Borgias
Both slop, especially Borgias. Those are very good examples though because reading about Rome and Borgia makes for a better time than watching those mediocre shows. Deadwood simple spins its wheels too much and because it's based on real events instead if inspired you know a large majority of characters are not in danger of ever dying.

Deadwood had some fucking kino slampigs in it
Exhibit A

Exhibit B

>>214311213 (OP)
Every scene with the whores made my peepee burn

>>214311683
>but the doc is practically on death's door in season 3 and then perfectly fine 10 years later in the movie
Call it fairy magic.
>>214311911
>The show is an anti-western.
God dammit wait until we get an awful Blood Meridian movie

>>214311213 (OP)
that single movie ending was shit like Sopranos

>>214311213 (OP)
also nigger would realistically swing on rope

>>214311213 (OP)
For me, Deadwood's the only show in Sopranos tier. i.e., it's 1a. Sopranos. 1b. Deadwood. 2. who cares.

>>214319593
No, they coexisted there in Deadwood. It was attempted in the movie. Slavery was over. The west was not the south. A lot of cowboys were black.

>>214318274
>Cy Tolliver was evil scum.
Absolutely perfect casting. The scene in which he murders the teens is kino. It's amazing to then see him become this sniveling pussy before Hearst.

>>214317485
>The Englishman gets scammed with the gold mine
You mean the New York dude right? Brom Garret?

>>214311223
don't put leftovers in the same tier as those mid tv shows

>>214319669
I'm assuming it's what he meant.
It took me quite a while to warm up to Dan after the ridge murder.

>>214312041
Always wanted to watch this but could never find a torrent. I'm using the Search plugin on qbit now, so I'll try that, thanks for reminding me.

>>214319323
Honestly didn't pick up on her first time I watched as I was too young to understand the role of a slampig.
Also this actor and character.

>>214319799
time for a rewatch then lad

>>214319799
this guy's mouth looks like an unshaved cunt

>>214319275
What isn't slop in your eyes?

>>214319706
Loved Dan Dority from just about the start. Funny and a badass. Great second to Al.

>>214319341
Looks like a girl who has sucked cock for food.

>>214319930
why did swearengen get the fattest whore he had to stick her thumb up his ass?

Inclusive casting agent doesn't discriminate against MAPs.

>>214319950
pretty much what i expect from a newsman 2bh

>>214319949
she was simply his favorite at the time

>>214311223
The wire is literally nog wizard of oz
I lived in Baltimore at the time
It was a giant suburban white place with a bunch old pre revolution Hispanic families
Surrounding a much smaller metro of 250000. The entire city area is 3 million
The wire is complete fantasy
There was one one bad area that's 4 by 2 blocks

>>214319978
>close the assflap

>>214319946
"The Ambulators"

>>214319950
I'm glad they didn't pull him from the show over that. I couldn't imagine anyone else playing Merrick.

Like the guy omar is based off
Was just a crack head who ripped off crack dealers and molested kids
He ended flipping on a bunch of dealers and get his sentence minimized

Yes omar.. loved kids

>>214320051
He was gay so its fits the profile.

>>214320063
He was straight but would suck cock for crack. The entire show is just a fantasy

>>214320035
it was like some chef south park shit they did to his character in the beetlejuice sequel

>>214311550
at some point you're gonna have to consider the possibility that maybe... they're right??

>>214319323
Two of Cy's slim hookers were great too. Lila was the name of one I think.

>>214319667
Boothe was fantastic. Joanie said something like "When you talk, I feel like it's the Devil." to him. ha.

>>214320246
>Joanie
I always felt like her character was below everyone else. Out of every single character hers didn't really have anything special

>>214320076
>the entire show is just a fantasy
Get out of it! My whole life is a lie and hear I was thinking about going to Baltimore and popping in to see Bunk, might then travelled to Deadwood see Al and Dan then hop up north and see how the lads at Sunny Vale are doing.

>>214320023
it's not fantasy. the wire is just an anachronistic show that's technically set in the 00s but most of the material comes from the 80s when the two main writers worked in baltimore as a journalist and a cop. for example the old black priest character is played by a guy that used to be a major local heroin dealer that the writer who used to be cop put in prison back in the 80s, and the character of avon barksdale is partially based on him.

>>214319667
Yk he was originally supposed to play Swearengen but I think the actor got sick or something

>>214321014
>Boothe was originally supposed to play Swearengen
really? Can't find anything stating this?

>>214321150
Saw it on imdb’s tribia section so idk

>>214311213 (OP)
Abysmal final season and finale.

I'm aware The Wire and Sopranos weren't exactly great in that regard either.

>>214311213 (OP)
It didn't have enough meat, few seasons and it's unfinished

>>214311683
>doc is practically on death's door in season 3 and then perfectly fine 10 years later in the movie
Augustus ceasar was thought to be dead or dying and ended up living 15 more years.

L O S T will never be eclipsed

>>214322227
yea, they'll never make something that shitty again

>>214322472
I would rather watch LOST again than the pile of shit we had the last decade.

>>214322854
extremely low praise

This made me diamonds. I disgust myself

>>214311213 (OP)
I love every scene of every episode of every season of this show, including the movie
you clip any random 5 minutes of it onto youtube and it would be worth watching
>>214311223
you're right, because it's tiers above all that slop

>>214311213 (OP)
For me it's Mrs Garret's hairy armpits

I finished season 2 and for some reason feel uninterested in season 3. I don't know why this show isn't doing it for me. It's like I know I'm watching something good but don't care.

Something about these two.

>>214311223
The Sopranos
>a great show, great writing, great acting, only has maybe 2 total dud episodes, Massive Genius and Ben Kingsley.
The Wire
>not good at all, the writing is genuinely embarrassing and Avon has like 20mins screen time.
Mad Men
>a great show, possibly the greatest ever if you just counted the office scenes, the rest of it slowly falls off a cliff into relying on "oh wow MLK died?" schlock
Leftovers
>after the 1st season the show becomes unimaginably pretentious, it wishes it was Twin Peaks so badly