Thread 214345461

I have always refused to watch the Avatar movies because "durrrr CGI slop blue cat aliens".
I finally watched them both yesterday and HOLLY SHIT THIS IS KINO.
Be honest with me Avatarbros, is Eywa some sort of AI designed to protect the Na'vi? I feel like this is where the story is going for some reasons.

its dogshit and the "story" isnt going anywhere, theyre just making up stuff

>>214345529
Ok

>>214345461 (OP)
It's the cinematic equivalent of a carnival ride. It's an experience that is fun but you don't necessarily want to rewatch it often. All spectacle but no substance. Take it as it is.

>>214345461 (OP)
We watch it for Kiri

here I go, wishing I could gag her again.

>>214346468
You misspelled Tuk.

>>214345461 (OP)
I'm going to be honest. I had no idea a THIRD one was about to be released. The first one was talked about so much everyone knew it existed. Whereas for the second one that apparently exists, not one of my friends talked about. None of my coworkers talked about it. Is this some kind of astroturfing?

>>214346452
They have a ton of substance. Always did. That film ripped my heart out.

>>214346499
you again. Patrick Star over here. You need to move.

>>214346499
>The first one was talked about so much everyone knew it existed. Whereas for the second one that apparently exists, not one of my friends talked about. None of my coworkers talked about it. Is this some kind of astroturfing?
I saw it nine times, and even towards the end of the run the theater was never less than half full. I never spoke of it to coworkers, because why would I.

>>214346499
it's one of the great mysteries of our time along with Pirates of the Caribbean 4. they made a billion dollars but no one can remember watching them.

>>214346564
Kek I actually saw that in theaters and was underwhelmed

>>214346592
I saw it in theaters and it changed my life. I actually got a GF during a screening. We're getting married after we see the new one.

>>214346552
My coworkers and I share when we're watching new movies, playing new video games or TV shows.

>>214346623
My coworkers are 60 year old women, and there's never any time for much casual conversation.

>>214346610
I was hoping to see the rerelease with my girlfriend back in 2022, but we broke up. Seeing it alone, I realised it might've been a bad idea. She was wanting to get more serious at the time.

>>214345461 (OP)
Cameron is a human-hating cuck and it has been leaked ages ago that Eva is indeed a alien space magic supercomputer and the blue furries are just pretending to be retarded indigenous people but are actually le super smart people who live in le HARMONY with nature and that's why they decided to larp as space indians. Let it be a lesson to you chud that you should return to monkey and give all you own to the abbos or some shit.

I think movie 4 or 5 will be about finding Eva and owning toxic masculinity or something I don't know, i stopped watching when i learned the humans didn't just glass the navi villages from orbit when they came back around.

>>214345461 (OP)
First ones good
Second one has huge pacing issues and dumb muguffin

>>214346816
Bad take.
Second one was so much more of a movie. It had actual characters to develop, and plots to explore.

the second movie could have used 15% less loak and 30% more Tuk.

>>214346836
I don't want to know about whale brain semen
But sure if you think that's more of a movie then your take on my take is bad

>>214345461 (OP)
I saw the first movie and I really did legitimately love it, I even had the "damn, I wish I could live in avatar world" feeling that people talk about which seems insane in retrospect, what the fuck was wrong with me.
Never saw the sequel though but it's probably good, Cameron is a genius

>>214346883
It's more like t2 vs t1 mixed with aliens
It's not bad I may rewatch it soon

>>214345461 (OP)
cringe ass cartoon bullshit

Cameroon is an absolute embarassment now. His body might as well been taken over by an alien with the shittest taste on planet Earth

>>214346881
How was unobtainium any better?
It was whale brains, but with less of a connection to anything else in the movie.

>>214346945
At least the mining made sense
Whaling alagory seems dumb idk just didn't work for me

>>214346494
kek she was tied up for real

Why don't they just domesticate the whales?

>>214347194
Why don't they just domesticate the Na'vi?

>>214346798
>they decided to larp as space indians.
Give us ONE analogy that specifically refers to Indians.

>>214347194
>>214347233
Why don't movies just do what I want? What a scam!

>>214346836
The fucking whaling scene destroys the pacing of the movie. It was also dumb as fuck. Fucking capeshit superhero whales get the FUCK out of here.

>>214346883
>I even had the "damn, I wish I could live in avatar world" feeling that people talk about which seems insane in retrospect, what the fuck was wrong with me
Not a damn thing wrong with you. That's the correct reaction. These movies are a trip.

>>214347297
These movie are a trip if you never opened a book.

>>214347289
>capeshit superhero whales
What in the random buzzwords are you babbling about?

>>214347309
I've read hundreds of books, I have a whole library. Avatar has something unique and different to offer.

These flicks are the last real blockbusters. After disney ruined Star Wars (and earlier, Marvel etc.), Transformers and F&F went to shit, only Avatar is left. There are also no more grand fantasy or historical epics.

>>214347405
I genuinely believe that a sequel to Apocalypto (directed my Mel of course) would rake in at least 2.5 billies, maybe 3. Avatar fatigue is setting in, and coincidentally Melkino famine is spreading.

>>214346883
>Never saw the sequel though but it's probably good, Cameron is a genius
The Way of Water goes on 3D rerelease next month. Get your ticket while you can. I think the first is better paced and more self-contained, but the Way of Water is magical in its own way, and takes its time and really allows you to linger in that world and really enjoy all the atmosphere. It's like an otherworldly holiday, then the final hour is a relentless action masterclass.
https://youtu.be/SvWme4gEFCA?feature=shared

>>214346513
They have exactly zero substance.

Sci-fi movies like Star Wars and Blade Runner are beloved because they create a whole universe for the viewer to enjoy and discuss

Meanwhile the avatar movies are just the same
>humans are le bad!
>nobles space savages are le good!
The best parts of the movies are where they show the Human Tech and gadgets, too bad Cameron is a cuck that only wants to bitch and cry about DA WHALES! DA BLUE INJUNS!!

>>214345461 (OP)
What a totally authentic and organic post.

>>214347448
Film by Mel would be destroyed by 'critics' and youtubers more than anything by Snyder

>>214347461
>>humans are le bad!
>>nobles space savages are le good!
You just can't get over that, can you. You know historically, there have been humans that have done some cruel and awful things. Are you going to take that personally as well?

>>214347448
>a sequel to Apocalypto
That's a niche movie anon, the first one grossed 120M worldwide...

>>214345529
b-but muh hecking world building

>>214347609
Because it's a BORING trope, who wants to watch ANOTHER tear jerker liberal shitfest movie preaching some "message"

Without Cameron's Magic those movies would be treated as slop

>>214347461
>Sci-fi movies like Star Wars and Blade Runner are beloved because they create a whole universe for the viewer to enjoy and discuss
Star Wars is amateur hour next to Avatar.
It just doesn't hold up anymore. Just a load of scruffy looking costumes, muppet supporting characters and junk designs. They even did their own take on natives vs military in Return of the Jedi and the result was pitiful. Utterly incoherent series with embarrassing boomer cringelord fanbase that mostly exists to sell toys.

>>214347637
It has thoroughly permeated public consciousness since, zoomers are well acquainted with it from tiktok edits, millennials who cares and gen X/boomers are desperate for unPC kino

>>214347763
Don't get me wrong I love it and would definitely watch a sequel, but I wouldn't bet a cent on its success. I worked in a theatre this summer, most people are barely able to articulate the title of the movie they want to see, Apocalypto is was above the intellect of the masses.

>>214347246
Even a retard can see they're heavily influenced by native culture. Kinda puts things in perspective where you stand.

>>214347697
>Without Cameron's Magic those movies would be treated as slop
If anyone else had made them, they would be slop. And yet they aren't. They're about as far as you can get.

Cameron doesn't have a magic touch, he just works harder and longer than anyone else and he's fully committed to doing it justice and making it work. He doesn't hide behind irony, post-modernism, or some intellectual facade. You get 100% sincerity no matter the cost.

>>214346481
it's weird cause I also heard Kiri

>>214347865
The first tribe was 100% African coded (played by black actors btw), you must live in a reservation if you saw anything related to red skins.

>>214347843
not to sound snobbish but I really am curious about working in retail, I tend to hold others to my own standards but perhaps that's asking too much. How much of a knuckle-dragging retard is the average consoomer?

>>214345461 (OP)
this is the least subtle shilling I've seen, and we're having kpop shills on the board recently

I love my beautiful big blue tradwife Neytiri

>>214346452
Cinema was a carnival ride from the very beginning in the 1800s

>>214347932
Some are legit retards and I have no problem with that, mother nature made them like that, what pisses me off are the functional families, dad+mom+kids, well dressed and all, asking "4 tickets for Brad Pitt", not even "the movie starring Brad Pitt" (the title wasn't that long mind you), they don't give 2 shits about the content, a face is enough to drag them off their fucking couch. Fucking zombies, on rainy days you get entire herds like that.

>>214348162
>2 tickets for James Cameron please
>I know you are wondering why 2 if I'm seemingly alone, but my *female* friend is sure to be here anytime now
>Oh wow, my phone is ringing, it must be her! I sure hope it's not to alert me of an unfortunate mishap that will force her to cancel!
>Yes, dear, I understand
>Well would you look at that! That'll be 1 ticket for James Cameron, wagie

How does Avatar hold up having been made for 3D? Its kind of annoying when movies just throw shit at the screen constantly

Varang will be stealing your presents this Christmas!

>>214349504
So, nothing?
Maybe she'll drink a beer with me...

>>214349588
Mangkwan love human's fire water!

>>214349834
Perfect example of
>evil women SEXO

I really hope Cameron has an interesting story for the wind nomads.

>>214350544
>so how do these balloon creatures manage to stay afloat for so long?
>you see those beans over there?
>yes
>well, we eat them, so we can fart lots, and we fart into this tube, which feeds into the balloon. without farts, we're all dead
actual leaked dialogue, my uncle works at RDA

>>214350603
uh oh... will Cameron finally debut Smell-O-Vision to complete his immersive cinematic experience?

>>214350642
see those baskets? bean baskets.

>>214345461 (OP)
You're lucky, you can still see the 2nd and upcoming third in Dolby cinema 3d in October and December. It's the only way to properly experience Cameron's vision unless you have a great vr setup (probably still inferior).

>>214350669
>No please, Kiri, don't remove my mask...it's...too stinky!

>>214350642
4DX already has scent effects. They need to make it better though. They only ever have pleasantly artificial smells.

>>214346452
The first movie made sense in cinemas because it was a new kind of 3D and was genuinely amazing from a visual and technical standpoint.
Since then 3D has never again been done to such a high level and it has completely fallen out of fashion. The story is completely forgettable.

>>214350786
moments before being bitten by Tuk.

>>214345461 (OP)
Buy an ad, faggot

>>214351519
>Tuk uses Gas Attack! It's super effective!
>Tuk uses Munch! It's super effective!

>>214351577
newfag spotted
come back in two years

>>214352250
Need an anon to update this with Jake and Quaritch's new looks

>>214345461 (OP)
I tried to rewatch Avatar a few weeks ago, but couldn't stomach the cringe scene where she saves him from the wolfs and then starts crying over the dead bodies and praying for forgiveness and whatever else to Mother Earth. Just too cringe for an adult. I finally had to sell my DVD copy to a reseller.

>>214350544
Their mastery of weaving completely contradicts the concept that Pandora is a wild planet devoid of civilization.

>>214352797
weaving is exempt from Eywa autism rules. the omaticaya are actually accomplished weavers which is strange because only Mo'at wears elaborate woven clothes

>>214352797
Her rules don't say anything about no weaving. Just don't use the metal, don't make wheels, don't build using stones

>>214351460
>The first movie made sense in cinemas because it was a new kind of 3D
There were like 3-4 years of digital 3D movies in the years before Avatar came out. I saw many of them including Beowulf, Coraline, Journey to the Center of the Earth, Meet the Robinsons, The Final Destination. None of them were close to the financial success of Avatar.

There were very good 3D movies in the 1950s with very good 3D. None of them were close to the success of Avatar.

Avatar succeeded on its own terms, because it's an exceptional movie. An engaging movie, a well-acted movie, a well-crafted movie, a thrilling movie from start to finish. The same is true of the sequel. 3D only adds to it, enhances and intensifies it. But it isn't the make or break of it. Avatar would have been a gigantic, colossal success with or without 3D.

>>214352835
>>214352913
This isn't Eywa, but the humans in the first film clearly treated the Na'vi as part of the local fauna. It was believable as long as they were tree-dwelling apes, but it's hard to believe they'd overlook such civilized clans.

>>214353099
that's because everyone except the scientists were evil chuds that dismissed the na'vi before even learning anything about them

>>214353099
Kek, no they didn't. They knew they had a civilization, with a city, homes, structure, etc. They knew they were incredibly smart and had Grace teach them english and share knowledge. The RDA just got pissed that the Na'vi didn't want them to bulldoze the forest, kill the animals and their habitat, and mine the metal which is again against Eywa's laws. The RDA leaders were angry that the Na'vi couldn't just be bought with trinkets, slop food, plastic waste, drugs and alcohol and were instead happy with their current way of life.

>>214346494
Uh oh

>>214345461 (OP)
Read 'Out of the Silent Planet'.
It does everything Avatar tries to, but well.

>>214353365
Civilized people bad, proto-sapien savages good?

>>214353365
Did it make multiple billies? No? Then I ain't reading it.

>>214353501
>NOOOOO! You must accept the horde of brownoid immigrants to destroy your planet with toxic waste, pollution and feed you the slop oils!
>How dare you prefer living in the literal paradise and having a tradition large happy family?!

>>214353501
Space imperialism bad, Jesus and angels good.

The first movie has the us military bound in chains and driven away in defeat and middle America could not get enough of it, they loved it.
The second one is about whaling of all things and still made a billion dollars. These films connect with the human spirit in a way no marvel or Pixar, or video game adaptation ever could.

>>214353091
You're being disingenuous, none of those movies were technically on the same level as Avatar. Nobody was telling people about the amazing 3D in those movies.

>>214345461 (OP)
Ayywa is a living planet, mycelium being some kind of nervous system as well as neural network.
You can chose to be connected and act as a good bacteria on Ayywa's body or you can choose to be a bad bacteria that needs to be contained at best or eliminated, like those parasitic being, the judeo-human expedition of the RDA.

>>214354035
>about whaling of all things
Cameron is obsessed with the ocean. He loves it. I say good on him for making movies about topics he's passionate about. It's the same way Ridley Scott is obsessed with androids and loves making movies about them.

>>214354081
>You're being disingenuous, none of those movies were technically on the same level as Avatar. Nobody was telling people about the amazing 3D in those movies.

Coraline is very sophisticated in its use of 3D,, absolutely flawless on a technical level, and really ramps up where it counts. Journey to the Center of the Earth has excellent 3D. So does 1950s titles like Creature from the Black Lagoon and Inferno. There are Imax documentaries from the 1990s and early 2000s with far better 3D than Avatar.

Avatar is just that unique and compelling a film. It's pure shock and awe.

>>214345461 (OP)
I see You

>>214345461 (OP)
>14 KB JPG
>I have always refused to watch the Avatar movies because "durrrr CGI slop blue cat aliens".
>I finally watched them both yesterday and HOLLY SHIT THIS IS KINO.
I know what you mean. How anyone can deny the sheer power and overwhelming cinematic voltage of Avatar is mind boggling. It's like some psy-op, where they've convinced themselves or been convinced that the sky is green, that up is down and black is white.

>>214345461 (OP)
>is Eywa some sort of AI designed to protect the Na'vi? I feel like this is where the story is going for some reasons.
We're going to find out some new stuff about Eywa this movie. Perhaps that's why Varang is so angry at her

>>214345529
Fun fact: all movies are just made up.

>>214356639
wait what? when did that happen?

>>214345461 (OP)
It's utter dogshit.
Full of irritating characters, shit plot.

What will Lo'ak and Tsireya's arcs be?

I love Avatar. Can't wait to watch Fire and Ash as many times as I can.

>>214357413
uhoh, they're REALLY not gonna like hearing this!

>>214357401
>What will Lo'ak and Tsireya's arcs be?
I'm guessing she's gonna die. She's so pure. Such an angel.

>>214357447
No one can stop me. No one. I'm gonna watch Fire and Ash. And if I want to see it again, I will. And if I want to see it twenty times, it'll be because it's better than anything else I could be doing with my time. They can stick that in their pipes and smoke it!

God Bless Jimmy C

umm, bros...

>>214358598
>>214358743
Some MRI scan device, so what?

>>214358862
they're gonna mindrape neyney

>>214358862
It could very well mean they're going to force Na'vi to avatar into a human body

>>214358904
Neyney is not for rape

>>214359107
Neytiri has suffered so much. Her soul is crushed. She figures what's a little rape to add to the misery? It isn't so bad after all compared to the rest

>>214346499
Yet it made millions. Those films are an experience.

>>214359207
it made billies

Shes really cute

>>214359106
Why? Just to troll her?
>bwahaha try to ride your banshee now

>>214359467
>not appearing with a mohawk

>>214345529
The planned the sequels in advance

damn that's a long ass time

>>214359668
my suspension of disbelief is ruined

>>214351460
Somebody’s been watching video essays ;)

>>214346816
I don’t think you know what a muguffin is

>>214345461 (OP)
>Avatar
>kino
You have shit taste.

Did not know they used an actor with dwarfism as a standin for spider in the na'vi mocap scenes

I say we take off and nuke bridgehead from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

>>214360037
Was didn't they hire my boy Warwick?

>>214346494
ToT

>>214360037
and other characters

>>214347246
Feather, not dot.

>>214345461 (OP)
>Here is another fake-ass marketing thread trying to pretend Avatar matters
Literally the only good thing that came of those movies was giantess mommie dommie porn. And that was in 2012

>>214356844
Excuse me mate, were you there?

These movies are so fucking boring

>>214360406
Thanks for the input retard

>>214360406
holy filtered

These movies make so fucking many billies

>>214347006
Whalebrain jizz = ambergris, which was one of the last things whaling was done for after the bone, meat, blubber, etc, had been replaced.

This guy is so kino

>>214360239
Imagine the Ganeshaya tribe lol. But seriously there's no Indian reference at all, neither brown nor red.

>>214347461
It’s science fiction about how humanity has all the tools to solve every problem on earth but doesn’t because they aren’t economically viable in an economy that runs off short term gains.

>>214360501
qrd?

NANTI

>>214360698
This is something they REALLY don't want to hear. It's anathema to them. They've been brainwashed to think capitalism is the ultimate good and the only way. You're not allowed to demonstrate its failures or shortcomings. Or that some people living in a paradise taken care of by a God being wouldn't need or want capitalism. Everyone is supposed to want to wageslave and buy the latest plastic shit! Good sci-fi.

>>214348259
Better than any other movie. The point of avatar’s 3D isn’t to just get cheap “whoas” or scares, but to make it look like a living breathing world where you forget you’re even wearing the glasses.

>>214345461 (OP)
reddit, trannies, the left, etc. HATE Avatar so getting an actual discussion about it sucks
I had theories, but I honestly need to rewatch these movies because I forget now. I think the clones they made with the avatar technology aren’t actually clones and are actually their souls pulled into the body so there’s gonna be some weird shit along those lines idk if you’re sniffing what I’m stepping in

>>214346883
>living in nature as a cool warrior is wrong and bad
What white guilt redditor told you that?

>>214361209
Too well. Cameron should be imprisoned for all the people he drove to suicide after experiencing his amazing world. He's as bad as a drug dealer.

>>214348259
>How does Avatar hold up having been made for 3D? Its kind of annoying when movies just throw shit at the screen constantly

Not annoying when the 3D is amazing.
For the record, Avatar works perfectly fine without 3D, and is mind-blowingly good with 3D.
>>214361209
>The point of avatar’s 3D isn’t to just get cheap “whoas” or scares, but to make it look like a living breathing world where you forget you’re even wearing the glasses.

Great 3D isn't about making you forget that you're wearing the glasses, it's about showing you why it's worth wearing the glasses.

>>214345461 (OP)
It's Blue Pocahontas and Eywa is the old bitch tree who tells Pocahontas and John Smith to stop glaring at each other and start fucking.

>>214347233
can't domesticate savages, that's been proven more often than not.
you can only kill the aggressive ones through strict profiling and police work.
if a navi has weapons, or riding a war animal, is hooded, wearing skinny loin cloths.
you don't assume they're just hunting peacefully for food... simple

>>214362848
Pocahontas didn't have mechsuits, or those sunbed things that put you inside an alien.

Pocahontas also didn't end in an epic battle, it was completely the opposite.

And John Smith wasn't being used by the captain to convince the natives to move their camp so the English could extract mineral wealth.

And most importantly of all, it just doesn't go anywhere near as hard as Avatar does.

>>214363108
based

>>214358904
don't worry she'll still be a good girl.

>>214359107
built for a bit of rape dick. especially her supple throat. just a bit

>>214358060
King James is always super autistic about doing the math on fictional tech. The Venture Star ISV is probably the most realistic fictional spacecraft ever put on film

On Aliens he hired an engineer who had worked at Lockheed just to make sure the APC and gunship were as realistic as possible, calculating lift mass, landing weight, speed and all that.

>>214363201
The APC was not realistic kek. It was just an aircraft tug they slapped some scifi stuff onto. And it's only fit for driving on very flat surfaces since it has so little ground clearance. Still cool and unique though.

>>214363201
He really likes his ekranoplanes now. I hope they do more in this next one

>>214363137
he's using physics and mathematics to find optimal angles of attack that the navi don't know btw. because he's human

Will they kill the other Avatars like Norm?

>>214347461
>they create a whole universe for the viewer
avatar made some people wish they could live in that world

>>214345461 (OP)
I only watched the first one and it was good, but I feel like I only liked it because I was a kid. Avatar 2 didn't catch my attention.
But Avatar 3 actually looks interesting because I love sexy evil bitches.

>>214345461 (OP)
We hope it is
Imagine the punch in the gut, "you used technology to destroy nature, we used it to improbe and join it"

>>214364792
>I only watched the first one and it was good, but I feel like I only liked it because I was a kid.
You should've caught the rerelease, you would've realised how wrong that feeling was, and how right kid you was. You just put on the 3D glasses and let it wash right over you. The film is perfection. Like being reborn.

>>214363137
Perfect illustration of just how based Avatar is.

>>214346475
based

>>214346481
also based

>>214346494
very based, me oh my

>>214345461 (OP)
It's mid and also you're a retard for refusing to watch things because of anonymous peer pressure

>>214363500
>He really likes his ekranoplanes now.
Are those not hydrofoils?

>>214345461 (OP)
DONT DOUBT JIM.
simple as

>>214358598
RDA will try to create an artificial Ayywa.

>>214359467
Ikeyni is in avatar 3 so she will be back!

>>214361107
NAVI