Thread 214364051

Finna binge this
What am I in for?

Idfk

It's aite. Plot gets worse as it gets more ayy lmao.

kinoslop

it starts kino
but yeah I don't like the "scifi" stuff much. won't spoil it. but worth watching for beginning space kino

>>214364051 (OP)
Increasing stronk blak wimminin positions of powa

>>214364416
i mean, it reflects real life, whats the problem?

>>214364051 (OP)
Best of luck. There's some really interesting worldbuilding and kino scenes like that kid getting spaced by his uncle or whatever but I get fatigue from Marlboro Pajeeta and usually give up when they introduce Insufferable Martian Solder Girlboss Who Can't Act.

3 seasons of kino then...ehh

>>214364051 (OP)
>What am I in for?
A glimpse of the future, where Baby Talk is the official language of wiggers born on asteroids (the future's trailer parks). Also, Martians are pajeets larping as Texans. Quite a melting pot out there in space.

>>214364051 (OP)
does the show suck ass past the first arc like the books?

>>214364051 (OP)
I wouldn't advise binging. There's a lot to it, and a lot of characters. You should take time to think about what you're seeing, what's going on, who everyone is, who the factions are. And besides, it's the best show in the last decade. Once it's up, there's not much else on the same level

>>214364051 (OP)
>Alex not on the complete series cover
Damn, hoss...

>>214364051 (OP)
One of the most overrated shows of the past decade, with the extra bonus of each season being way fucking worse than the previous one.. It was never good, but people deluded themselves in first season that this is "realistic" and thus somehow not shit.

>>214364051 (OP)
It's up and down. Still worth watching.

doors & corners kid

>>214364684
Them all being Creole speaking Irishmen was a really cool concept. They were like every discriminated group rolled into one and then left in space. Later on when they all just got turned into the brown hordes of Zion in the Matrix and almost none of them still did the language thing right or used their hands while talking sucked.

>>214364051 (OP)
It's crazy how the black chick was actually kind of hot in the beginning and then by the end of the show she looked 55

>>214365233
Groped his way to the airlock.

>>214365644
Who's airlock more the point

S1-3 are kino, 4 is decent, 5 is okay, and 6... is short.

Book 6 was also the weakest but the books were all lit kino. 7-9 may be as good as 1-3

>>214364051 (OP)
>Complete Series
oof

>>214365620
what's crazy is how she is the worst character in the entire show and by worst i mean as an individual this person being portrayed is human detritus. she is a traitor, a liar, a criminal, and all the while trying to play righteous and innocent.

>>214367672
Yeah that too

>>214364051 (OP)
All the alien shit ruins it.

>>214364051 (OP)
Cringe trash

>>214364051 (OP)
It's gray drama in space, feat unlikable people.
As usual.

Dropped after the 1st season

>>214365233
That's the churn

>>214364398
The scifi is the point. Hard sci-fi parts are there to make it work. The story wouldn't work if it didn't start hard.

>>214364051 (OP)
It's shit don't believe /tv/'s lies

>>214364432
I thought it was scifi escapism? but if more "realism" is what you want.

>>214364370
On the contrary. The beginning of the story cockteases you with ayy shennanigans, and then humanity finally discovers the gate network and then it's right back to muh rebel faction vs Earth/Mars and the ayy shit firmly takes a back seat never to become truly relevant again

>>214364051 (OP)
my wife's son

>>214364051 (OP)
idk what /tv/ is talking about, The Expanse is pretty good. Season 1 is rough and looks cheap as shit, but Thomas Jane really grows on you. Season 2 is pretty great, season 3 is fantastic. 4 is good, 5 is kind of shitty, and season 6 is a mixed bag with some great stuff in it.

All science fiction is dystopian slop.

>>214369893
Read The Culture.

>>214364436
Bobbie's many shortcomings are made up for by her dumptruck ass

>>214370216
Naomi also has one, yet anons hate her. How to fix that?

>>214369893
Modern sci fi isn't even sci fi

>>214364051 (OP)
>What am I in for?
one of the best recent sci-fi shows

it has its flaws but its still kino, rewatched s6 yesterday and its way too short

>>214370401
lmao imagine the others

>>214364051 (OP)
one guy got ousted cuz he raped a girl, you know the show is good

the writer should have decided what he fuck he wanted to write about before starting this.

>>214365445
correct. The overrated is probably just Redditors doing marketing.

4 seasons of kino
2 seasons of slop

>>214364051 (OP)
I've only read the book but I'm guessing it's shit but people watch it for Amos since he seems to be the only well cast character.

Gotta talk about that ride, kid. Next clue to the case.

>>214370216
Bobbie is a cool character because she fucks up every earther and belter scum she encounters with ease showing that the MCRN Marines are just built different and really fucking scary to encounter. I love when the Rocinate is fighting Marco and she gets fed up with the crews incompetence at fighting and proceeds to one shot his ship.

>>214364051 (OP)
boss-girl-niggerfest, bad cgi.
its woke, its trash

>>214365445
this is the right answer

>>214369799
>Hard sci-fi
you are retarded

Whenever Naomi isn't on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Naomi?"

From S1 to S6 you can skip through every single Naomi scene and you won't have missed a single important plot point.

>finally understand where the title of the show comes from
>blown the fuck away, seasons of material built to this point
>the show ultimately does barely nothing with the plot point
so disappointing

>>214367041
7-9 is better than 1-3. Its pure distilled kino

>>214369840
Ayy shit comes extremely relevant in the final books.

>>214364051 (OP)
slop

>>214364051 (OP)
First season good
after that it's a fine Gundam ripoff that is ruined by Naomi's fucking cry-acting. Fuck I hate Naomi.

I had no idea that James Holden was supposed to be the main character until like season 3. That dude has negative charisma.

>>214371657
I loved 1-3. 7 was weak. 8 was so bad that I have no desire to read 9. They had top tier world building in the beginning and they turned it into their version of gay Star Wars where plucky rebels fight the extremely powerful but also extremely incompetent evil empire.

why dont more scifi properties do the realistic naval type space warfare expanse does. or any space warfare for that matter
this shit really gets me going

quite possibly some of the most annoying fucking accents ever put on to the screen

>>214371757
c'mon, he didn't do anything for me but he was unmistakably meant to be the main character in the typical intervening hero role

>>214364051 (OP)
Incredibly boring, only watched first 2 seasons and it never got good. I heard Duarte finally showed up, so does it get good with him? I like the concept of an immortal Napoleonic figure in space. He's at least portrayed with charisma, right?

Season 4 was the best, basically Israel Palestine in space

>>214371861
because it requires competency at multiple levels

>>214364391
this

For me, it's the Agatha King

>>214371621
That's only because they're waiting for the actors to age a bit for the time skip between 6 and 7. 7-9 is where all the alien stuff comes to a head and becomes most relevant. After the new game makes the books/show get a flood of new fans, they'll pick it back up

>>214371734
>Fuck I hate Naomi.
Me too anon, me too.

>>214371223
>MCRN Marines are just built different
When she's walking around on Earth struggling to just exist she sees a giant habitation building full of people and realises that all her thoughts about Mars beating Earth were stupidly childish.

>>214371262
That's what it's called.

>>214373018
One of the best Mars plot points. In the beginning we hear "they train in 1G" and then she goes to earth and needs a chair immediately

The show initially did a good job with portraying belters as ungrateful terrorists. But the the audience just thought they were the good guys for being oppressed so they made belters 100% brave resistance fighters against evil empire.

>>214371687
spoil me on it
i aint readin those dang books

>>214364051 (OP)
A good sleep.
This is one of the most powerful audiovisual anesthetics man has ever managed to produce.

>>214371861
>why dont more scifi properties do the realistic naval type space warfare expanse does
>realistic
>naval type space warfare

You know it isn't real right? Space warfare simply does not exist in reality. There's no way it can be "real"

>>214371861
There is nothing realistic about space combat in Expanse. It's just a bitt less unrealistic than Star Wars, which at least doesn't pretend to be not fantasy

>>214370240
Naomi turned into a granny at the end

>>214373568
you're brown

>>214364051 (OP)
3 Seasons of Kino with kino finale.
Don't bother with the rest.
Amazon did not in fact saved it from cancellation.

>>214364051 (OP)
I think people underappreciate S1.
It was survival kino, detective kino, with both plots coming together in horror kino, and all sprinkled with political background.
Like, people often say "Watch Ep4 and if won't like it, then drop it", but i think first 3 were very good at gripping your wrist too.

>>214364051 (OP)
I think the ayys stuffs and ayys gate is a big mistake and they should really stay as spooky looming threat, kinda like eldritch, cosmic horror in lovecraft

>>214373437
Laconians (the Martian rebels that escape through a ring gate with a stolen fleet) find an automated ship factory and use it to build hybrid ships. They dominate earth and everyone else with those ships. Ayyys take notice of the alien tech going through ring gates and start taking bites of things that pass throuh (literally).
Laconian emperor merges his DNA with the protomolecule to become immortal, he gets arrogant and tries to send bombs to attack the ayys, so the ayys repeat their attack that killed the ringbuilders, humans survive it but they fuck up the emperor and he goes into a coma, the OPA exploits that and beats them (bobby draper suicide bombs the laconian ship in Sol).
Long story short, the emperor wakes up and tries to merge his consciousness with the ringbuilders and Holden shows up at the last minute and just unplugs the faggot. GG.
Last scene is Amos on earth far into the future, he's living in the rubble (he's immortal now because he was rebuilt by the protomolecule on Laconia after a failed assassination attempt on the emperor got him blasted) and he meets some survivors and he's all cryptic and badass about life lessons an shit.
Good books.

>>214374251
Wtf that sounds like some bullshit fanfic
I thought this series is grounded???

>>214373568
>you know I ate breakfast for real right? There's no way to imagine I didn't eat breakfast in reality because I did. Not eating breakfast this morning doesn't exist.

>>214374251
I really liked the double alien world, with humans stumbling into a graveyard of proto/builder "Roman" ruins who got beat by the "goths".

But in the end the last books leaned too heavily into individual characters. Duarte was fine as a madman Elon musk with alien tech, but we really didn't need everything to resolve around bobby, Amos etc

>>214374433
It Has a dyke preacher, hard pass!

>>214364051 (OP)
>What am I in for?

Pic related hard carrying it foir a season and a half. Then while you get some great Amos scenes, and good characters like Ashford, the show never really recovers from Millers absence.

>>214374686
The last books were really just a goodbye to the characters. The story was resolved after bobby died and the combined fleet retook the gates.
I find them bitter-sweet because I loved the first 3 books so much. The series was at its best during the Illos campaign.

>>214374251
>>214374686
You left out that the ringbuilders are still alive. They went into hiding and hibernation inside a Jupiter-sized diamond because they're more like energy beings. That made them very vulnerable and susceptible to the attacks by the red god aliens. So they went to sleep for billions of years until a more hardy physical species developed space travel and they left clues/lures to draw in such a species. When that species finds the diamond, the plan was to tempt them into opening it and merging with the ringbuilders. They would then take over Humanity completely and Humanity would welcome it because they wouldn't understand what's happening or be able to stop it at that point. Pretty interesting twist on the story. They barely managed to prevent it, and had to disconnect all 1300 worlds of humanity to make it happen. That killed off many worlds and plunged others into dark ages

>>214374841
Fuck u I forgot that shit and I'm just starting the last book again. You spoiled me good.

>>214373412
Don't forget the pharmacy's worth of pills she and every Martian has to take every day on Earth just to not die, including her. And marines like her are supposed to be one of the toughest and strongest in the MCRN.

>>214374884
retard

>>214375012
That's the stuff I like most about the Expanse. It exploring how future humans would live out in the solar system and their experiences. Like people born and growing up only in space stations, would experience complete terror going down to a planet where it's all open air, water as far as the eye can see, the gravity feels like you weigh 1000lbs (even though it's 1G), and they can't balance for shit. The weakest part of adapting the book is that they couldn't make Belters look how they're really supposed to. They're becoming almost a different species. And that's why there's such hostility and why the events in books 4/5/6 happen. Some Belters want to escape the life in the asteroids. And others see it as their chance to finally get revenge on Inners. And many don't want the big change to happen since their way of life is doomed.

>>214375262
Yeah i like all those stuffs about humanity, not the generic ayy plot line
Especially the one about muh space emperor and hijacking ayy anon just told
What the hell is this, star scraft?

>>214375435
It's not generic and far better than most scifi aliens. They're not just humans with face makeup. The story is running with the idea that humans get out into space and there's already been advanced civilizations out that that conquered things billions of years ago and are long gone. Same shit happened in reality with humans finding crumbled empires. Then the story is exploring how finding their technology changes the various parts of humanity. It's a mad dash gold rush, destroying the disciplined united Mars terraforming project as everyone scrambles to get theirs, destroying the belt as no one will want to live their anymore, finally relieving Earth of its overcrowded status as billions of humans can be shipped off to new worlds. But of course every faction will be trying to get power over the others and start killing each other to do so. Just exploring how humans have acted for real in these same situations in the past

>>214375980
A pity it was the usual shitty grey drama in space feat unliekable people

>>214364051 (OP)
The rebels being these poor misunderstood and oppressed victims. The leniency and tolerance for their crimes they're shown later on unironically shattered my suspension of disbelief.

>>214364051 (OP)
read the books. Bobbie is less annoying and the crew is less screamy. The girl is asian and not a mystery meat mutt.

Miller is better in the show though

>>214376052
>>214375980
The whole proto-builders and wormhole aliens situation is so fucking interesting but instead the show and books spent 2 installments on fucking Naomi and her family. Nearly stopped reading.

Also its obvious in S6 that they stopped right before it got interesting again.

>>214376344
>The leniency and tolerance for their crimes they're shown later on unironically shattered my suspension of disbelief.

They're space Palestine, even though they are objectively in the wrong by being terrorists that are attack the entities that supply them with their needs, people like them for being the underdog

>>214370890
Spoilers I guess, I just finished season 5 and I was wondering "why the fuck would this character that has been here since day 1 die off screen of a stroke randomly" I guess now I know why.

>>214375262
>The weakest part of adapting the book is that they couldn't make Belters look how they're really supposed to
They tried it with the prostitute Miller's partner is seeing and the guy being tortured by Avasarala but probably ditched it because there simply aren't enough >2m tall actors to fill all the roles

>>214371262
literally the proper terminology
you betray your ignorance

>>214376802
They needed to team up with James Cameron so he could lend them the tech to make actors appear to be enormous on screen

>>214376777
It's literally what happens in the books, but to Fred Johnson. And it's not some one in a million asspull. They constantly worry about that happening to people. Bobby thought Avasarala was going to die that way. It would be worse if they made such a fuss and it never happens to anyone

Gas all Belters.

>>214371861
>>214373814
>mp4
>Thoth battle
It's the least realistic of them all.

>>214376996
At least it made sense for why they'd be so close. They'd have no chance against the stealth ships otherwise. And their disguise allowed them in since the stealth ships didn't want to reveal their presence if it could be avoided

>>214374251
>Last scene is Amos on earth far into the future, he's living in the rubble
Truly made to be the last man standing

Doors and corners, anon. That's where they get you

>>214379555
Checked