Thread 214366835

>>214366835 (OP)
grahm hancock has done decades of IRL field work. i think he has a right to discuss the politics of history.

>>214366835 (OP)
The egyptian pyramids are an alien creation, this was revealed to me in a dream so I know it's true, and that's the end of it

>>214366835 (OP)
Atlantis is here dig here

>>214366900
Going scuba diving while on vacation isn’t field work

>>214366992
i dont see many other internet historians doin any scuba diving.

>>214366835 (OP)
hes just asking questions
like was there an ancient civilization on mars that communicated with the egyptians? what is nasa hiding from us? we just dont know

Look there's a chance Atlantis is real and there's a chance it's filled with tall white haired blue eyed tribal women who lust after incel cock so we must continue to pledge our support.

>>214367361
Have they looked everywhere on Mars?

>>214367527
no we havent combed through every inch of mars so it could be true

Dibble won. Bigly.

Why do the words Gobleki Tepe make redditors seethe?

>>214366835 (OP)
i know youre just trolling but i still have to say it - go back to rebbit faggot

>>214366835 (OP)
why my nigga jimmy catching strays tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4Fo6m9C9M

WHY DOES EVERY REDDITOR SOUND THE SAME

>>214367590
Weird innit... for example why FEMA released rabid hyenas on Gobleki Tepe site to stop the excavations... hey he is just asking questions

>>214367590
NOOOOOOO HECKIN
ALL HUMAN CIVILIZATION STARTED 10,000 YEARS AGO
IGNORE THAT HUMANS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A MILLION YEARS
HECKING CHECK THE SETTLED SCIENCE CHUD
CHUD I BET YOU BELIEVE IN TARTARIA TOO
I BET YOU THINK THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GENDER, JUST SEX
WHICH YOU DONT HAVE CHUD
etc. etc.

You know the game and how the reddiot operates.

>>214368182
Current academia is infested with low IQ antifa types who just coasted along and followed madlib esque writing formulae to get to where they are now. They're a bunch of faggots who huff their own farts and write papers that only other faggots in their field might read. It is a closed loop of people who arent actually smart just repeating eachother. 90% of all academic papers amount to
>x thing might actually be racist
>y thing might actually be sexist
These guys hate any theories about ancient civilizations because
1. It undermines leftist narratives like out of africa theory (which has more contrary evidence each year), etc.
2. Their whole lives are based on brown nosing authority figures so anything that challenges the status quo is viscerally offensive to them
Alot of the shit Graham Hancock says is largely conjecture without concrete evidence but it's very telling to see how harsh the pushback he gets is. It isn't just innocent professional peer review.

>>214368383
Didn't they accuse him of Jan6?

>>214368494
Lol mainstream academics are so dumb

>>214368049
why indeed, detectives?

>>214368383
>Alot of the shit Graham Hancock says is largely conjecture without concrete evidence but it's very telling to see how harsh the pushback he gets is.
Yeah I wouldnt give a shit and would probably put him in the trash, alongside Daniken, but the hysteria he and similar people cause its plain fucking suspicious. When archeology academia starts behaving like le Big Pharma there's something fishy going on. I really think the hysteria is caused by the chance of a domino effect - you question the 12000 b.C., next thing you question is the holocaust lmao.

>>214368383
>innocent
it's malicious and profit driven, he knows the mainstream theory and chases the fringe not because he believes it but because it gets him attention and book sales

>>214366835 (OP)
Shill thread paid by archeological establishment because it is afraid of independent inquiry.

>>214367590
unironically because it contradicts the talmud

>>214369058
how is it malicious?

>>214366927
Man, did you know they found MASSIVE columns under the pyramid with staircases and underground chambers?

>>214367590
The kikes have thrown everything at Graham. They accused him of inspiring Jan 6.

>>214366835 (OP)
>professor dave explains
that guy is legit more retarded than grahm hancock.

the entire planet may have had an ancient civilization on it that was killed off because bits of a metor fragmented off and hit the earth, and here is the sedements where i think that happened and here is the ancient civilization that is older than we believe
>OH FUCK WERE SO STUPID, THE EVIDENCE WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, HOW CAN A LITERAL NOBODY COME IN HERE AND MAKE ONE OF THE GREATEST ARCHEOLOGIC DISCOVERIES? ITS LIKE CHILDS PLAY, WE COULDNT SEE IT OURSELVES .AHHHHHHHH
why are they like this?

>>214369319
They already know its most likely true but it doesn't fit their narrative or world view

>>214368383
>t isn't just innocent professional peer review.
Largely since a good chunk of the power structure relies on people not looking back far enough before the polar shifts. That's about it. The elites and jews and bankers and whatever tried to control the past, but because they're legitimately too stupid and incompetent, they flubbed it. Any alternative explanation gets hit with the same stupid braindead dogmatic response.

And most of the pushback is largely to show the leach pullers just how loyal the dogs are.

>>214369359
i think its plausible. meteor hits the earth, causes the ice age, ice age kills of people and ancient civilizatons are basically halted.
why grahm gets so much pushback over this is stupid. yeah its still a theory, but i think they geniuenly envy his theory because it could be real.

>>214368383
>it's very telling to see how harsh the pushback he gets is.

>>214369388
How is this mental illness called?

>>214369387
>tried to control the past

I think the best example is BCE/CE. Literally "our masters hate Christ so it's different now." It's the purest cowardice and mewling submission to a power structure headed by psychopaths that legitimately see them as chattel, and they dutifully follow their orders. Excellent litmus test though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unaq2x_ZqC4

>>214369421
>I THINK PLAUSIBLE. WHY GRAHM GET PUSHBACK DUMB
You are retarded and so is Graham but if anyone wants personal advice, this is the exact sort of energy you should carry into your personal life. Just lie, be confident in your lies, and present the idea that anyone who confronts your lies is just threatened by the idea that you might be right and smarter than them.

>>214369421
because he's full of shit and lies and manipulates the audience every time something doesn't fit his theory?

>>214369627
stuck in the box archeologist seethe.
>WAHHHH I FOUND TOOLS IN THE CAVE GIVE ME ATTENTION AND MONEY NETFLIX.

>>214369667
Dead-end retard who wants to believe he's a smart boy and has special knowledge that puts him beyond just another box mover and fry bagger. Cope incoming about "real career" in 3... 2... 1....

>>214366835 (OP)
I'm reading on the fucking thousands of years old megalabyrinth at Hawara... WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

>>214366835 (OP)
Like I'm gonna trust an OP who posts 12kb images. Fraud.

>>214369810
heres a high IQ take for you. now when it comes to genetics, and the passing of genetic information, people think mostly of the DNA genetic matieral being passed, but often times what you will see in fields of work that you will have the father who may not be the best at the work, but raises a son. but that father despite being not the best at the field of work, has already walked the path of life. making it much easier for a child to enter into that field of work. i find it hilarious that the small handed manlet Flint DIbble lives in the shadow of his father. because from what it sounds like is that he isnt really taking full advantage of his situation himself having a enducated and tenored man teaching him everything he knows.
hows that for a "real career".

>>214366948
No u

>>214369969
Wow, looks like you seethed extremely hard because I immediately pegged you as a retard who works by the hour. Thanks for playing!

in fact when it comes to genetics the best people dont do it themselve but often times have people who came before them that passes wisdom and insight. so whats flint dibbles problem?

>>214367291
>internet
>historian

no seriously you can look at alot of people in fields of work that their fathers did, like sports, or science or many other things that their sons do better than they do.
why is flint dibble a small handed retard when his father is so much better?

>>214367361
>muh questions
Is handcock a massive grifter? Is he spreading disinfo for nefarious purposes or is he really that disingenuous? How high is he right now?

>>214369869
Crazy shit, unchartedX did a video on it.

>>214369484
judaism

We make scientific progress by constructing hypotheses and then testing/falsifying them. There is no need to get upset. It's part of the process.

>>214369575
The joke is on them, whenever I see BCE/CE I see it as Before Christian Era/Christian Era.

i would just write of flint dibble as a mid tier archeologist that his greates accomplishment is fluffing the work his father did while doing nothing of significance himself.

>duuuude civilization just sort of went from cave paintings to Old Kingdom and there was nothing in-between because... people have evolved in a thousand years
Am I supposed to actually believe this nonsense? People have been building civilizations for tens of thousands of years, evolutionary that time span is nothing, we're the same people. There's no way they'd be sitting in caves 20 thousands ago

>>214369869
>the foreigners have a conspiracy to say that our monuments were not built by Egyptians
>if they're not built by Egyptians, then they don't belong to Egypt
>this is all an excuse for the enemies of Egypt to intervene our government and give Egypt to the globalists or Greater Israel in the name of "sharing our common history"
>still, I know there's shit here that's been built thousands of years before Ancient Egypt, probably by a pre-glacial period advanced extinct civilization
Honestly, I get Zahi Hawass

>>214366835 (OP)
Hancock might be wrong but he's in the right by virtue of Dibble being a pathetic redditor who went "WAAAH I HAVE LE CANCER" when Rogan called him a weak faggot

>>214366927
They come into use during pole shift, either 2030 or 2046

>>214370206
>Am I supposed to actually believe this nonsense?
Yes.
Technologically speaking more breakthroughs and advancement has happened in the last 100 years compared to the previous 1000 years. Maybe even the last 50 years. It was only 60ish years between the first flight and the moon landing.

For a loooooong time no one knew jack shit other than a hunter/gatherer lifestyle until about 6000bc when some groups of people started farming in a large scale for the first time which changed everything. Now there is an abundance of food so people have more time to devout to other pursuits like religion, philosophy, architecture etc.

>>214367552
WE AINT FOUND SHIT!

>>214370752
Cyclical catastrophes bro. The very face of the earth has changed radically in the time anatomically modern humans have been around. Plenty of time for civilization to rise and fall and rise again only to be completely obliterated. Hardly anything survives. You need to keep digging and dig under the asump

>>214368383
How do you peer review someone just spouting conjecture? There is no actual content to review.

>>214370024
>Is he spreading disinfo for nefarious purposes
No. He's in an extended ayahuasca delusion made worse by chronic pot smoking. You could spread the mans' brains on toast like jelly

>>214371204
so where does the hysteria come from? Delusional old hippie shouldnt be treated like a dangerous enemy, unless there actually is an agenda behind the current academic consensus, and they are gatekeeping any thought of other theories to the point of absurdity.

>>214366835 (OP)
Seems weird to me though that there was various media outlets calling him a White Supremacist when his Netflix show came out and how dangerous his views are, why use that line of attack against a man with a Kenyan wife who he has a son with? Why is his view that human civilisation is older and more advanced than we're taught more controversial than saying that historical figures like Cleopatra, Hannibal and Severus were Sub-Saharan Africans which is also promoted on Netflix and the BBC

Ben van Kerkwyk seemed on to some crazy shit that people can’t explain and mainstream archeology just straight ignores.

>>214370215
Zahi is a mouthpiece for a corrupt tyrannical nationalist government. He’s just another example of archeology being used for political purpose to justify their narrative.

Chariot of the Gods bros where we at?

>>214367378
They have to be somewhere.

>>214371237
I'm not personally invested in the slapfights or the theories. He's just a funny old guy to shitpost about. Some anons get caught up in vehemently hating him because they're very bored. They just want to scream at each other for 300 replies with Hancock being the excuse. If not Hancock, it's Carlin, Trump, etc. It's really that banal
>inb4 DANGEROUS CONSPIRACY THEORIES
>ERM YOU'RE A SHILL
>UH ACKSHUALLY YOU WORK AT AN AMAZON WAREHOUSE AND I'M A REAL ARCHEOLOGIST I SWEAR
This exchange happens in every one of these threads

>>214366835 (OP)
Korben Dallas threads > Graham Hancock

>>214371278
yeah him and Randall seem the most professional out of that bunch, although Randall drank masonic koolaid lol

>>214370206
But there's no evidence of it, no structures, mummies found with only animal pelts and bone tools

>>214371468
I see your point man, but I can hardly accept that official academics are acting exactly like redditfags. Especially with crazy shit like how they (some university niggas) denounced that nigga in Chile and then Chileans wanted to assassinate him and his family for spying.

>My daddy dug up hunter gatherer tool during the ice age
>grahm hancock is a white supremacist
thats the crux of his arguments. he is a fat armchair archeologist that does the diggin in books instead of the ground.

>>214366948
>richat structure blocks youre path
ᘉᓍᖶᕼᓰᘉᘜ ᕵᘿᖇSᓍᘉᘉᘿᒪ ᖽᐸᓰᕲ

>>214366835 (OP)
Thanks for reminding us of how much of a jewish faggot you are op.

>>214366835 (OP)
I love the one guy who talked above ancient people seeing plasma storms

>>214371899
Benis :--Dddd

Why does GOBEKLI TEPE hit so different?

>>214372569
THREE DIMENSIONAL CARVED OBJECTS

>>214366948
It's actually here

>be high IQ 3 dimensional object carver
>be the first guy ever to carve 3 dimensional objects
>imagine a bunch of fakemon that turn out to be canon
>feel pretty good about yourself
>13,000 years later
>they say you being the first one means you weren’t the first one
>some hyperborean Greek sailors taught you
Feelsbadman

>>214372569
>Dude hunter-gatherers totally got farming from ancients there
>Then why were they hunter-gatherers instead of farmers?
>errr..... BIG ARCHAEOLOGY IS TRYING TO TAKE ME DOWN

>>214369388
>>214368383
>>214369387
reminder that ghislaine maxwell was a reddit moderator and her account was the first to reach 1 million karma, posting slanted content as an influence op pretty much from the start until her imprisonment

her dad, robert mawell, is attributed to have been the creator of the modern peer review system used in academic publishing

when you think about it, updoots are just peer review on steroids and are even more easy to control

do with this information what you will

>>214371781
Cinnamon roll

>>214366835 (OP)
Well he IS a fraud...

>>214366835 (OP)
Graham asks questions.
The establishment historians and archeaologists, apparently, don't like certain questions being posed.
Much anger ensues.
Graham's central hypothesis - that we are species with amnesia of our own past - is a compelling one.
Homo sapien sapien has, supposedly, been around for 300k+ years, but we are only aware of the last 5-7k years of our own history, and now with the findings in Turkey a smattering more info goes back to 11k bce.
So, we're to believe that our species - as currently consituted physically and mentally - spent 285k+ years in ignorance and then just all of a sudden started building megalithic sites and ordering life into civilization.
It's clearly a topic worth exploring. The irrational need that many feel to quell this line of inquiry is very telling.

>>214367590
>this thing that archeologists have studied and dated themselves disproves archeology

>>214370005
>Add Thyme

>>214368383
What original research have you ever done and documented?
You don't have to be an educated professional to be an archeologist, most historically weren't. But what have you done to self-educate yourself thoroughly or what novel research have you preformed to make this claim that you're the only smart guy in the room and everyone else is retarded?

>>214369319
What is your evidence for this?

>>214369869
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4576672
It isn't that remarkable, and mostly fits with what we'd expect and have predicted for centuries.
Incredibly impressive, but not something beyond the pale that connotes some lost ancient history.

>>214370206
Primitive farming would have been challenging during the Ice Age due to how dry and inhospitable the climate was.
Other than areas that are now undersea, most of the land that was not glaciated had a much drier and rougher climate than today.
It isn't a surprise that quickly after the glaciers receded and the climate improved, that humans were able to make practical mass farmsteads.

>>214373925
Thyme stop posting on /fit/ like 10 years ago

>>214370929
all of archaeology is conjecture. how do they peer review their papers?

>>214374824
one nigger goes to place, sees shit and draws conclusions from the shit he sees
then another nigger goes there and sees if he agrees

>>214373822
You leave out the minor detail of Graham’s total lack of evidence for his magic super civilization.

>>214374956
>You leave out the minor detail of Graham’s total lack of evidence for his magic super civilization.
You're being pjerorative. He doesn't posit there was a "magic super civilization."
Graham suggests that there's evidence that a seafaring civilization with a relatively sophisticated understanding of astronomy, mathematics, navigation and agriculture existed pre-Holocene.
One example of his evidence is the fact that the ancient Egyptian architecture is so much superior in the older time periods and then the quality of their works actually degraded as they moved forward in time, suggesting a civilization that inherited strong knowledge at its founding and then lost its way over time. That is not proof of his hypothesis, but it is evidence.
There's nothing wrong with pursing that line of inquiry.
Considering that we have almost zero information about our own species' way of life prior to the last ice age, it is important for us to probe into this time and expand our knowledge.
The fact that Gobekli Tepe (and the other regional sites of its ilk) exists means that humans were able to organize and create megalithic sites much earlier than anyone in academia thought possible until quite recently. 30 years ago archaelogy was steadfast in the view that ancient Sumeria was the first civilization to create megalithic public works, and now that event horizon has been pushed back by thousands of years.
What more is out there to be discovered? We shall see.

>>214369239
They wouldn't pull a shitty tactic like that if they weren't hiding something. For that reason alone, I believe Hancock is onto something big.

>>214369263
"Professor" Dave is one of those "rational scientists" who also thinks men can magically turn into women. Go figure.

>>214367590
It ruins their idea of Islam being the source of all scientific progress

>>214375470
And this magic super civilization went across the world teaching agriculture, right? Why did it leave zero genetic evidence of its existence? Why weren’t its sailors fucking the natives of the places they went to? Speaking of which, when they taught everyone about agriculture, why did they only use local crops (corn in America, wheat in Europe, rice in Asia, etc) instead of bringing their own default crop and introducing it everywhere, which would have been way easier than domesticating a local crop everywhere they went?

>>214375470
>and then the quality of their works actually degraded as they moved forward in time
The absolute fuck are you talking about, New Kingdom era buildings are significantly more advanced than Old Kingdom era

not to mention that the first pyramids were all experimental, the very first few collapsed, then there's the bent pyramid, and only after that they made a successful one

how does that make any sense if they supposedly had ancient knowledge?

You will notice a single strange trend, that out of all civilizations in the fertile crescent somehow it is only jewish buildings that are never suggested as having been built by aliens

every other culture's achievements is attributed to aliens or some other non-human cause, except for anything jewish

curious really, almost as if a certain group wants to downplay the achievements of their rivals

>>214375767
I’ve never even heard of Jewish architecture
>people are so into TKD they have literally become hebrew anti-fans

>be graham
>make stuff up
>people defend you
He must feel like a god

>>214366900
his wife risked her life on vacation

>>214376257
retards risk their lives on their vacation all the time

>>214375678
>why would a super-advanced civilization not rape the local girls for fun & sport?
Could you imagine if, today, in 2025, National Geographic expeditions went around spreading disease and raping young native girls in the jungle? We literally have laws in place all over the world that prevent contact with uncontacted or minimally-contacted indigenous peoples just to prevent such a thing. And you could hardly call A.D. 2025 Earth super advanced.

>>214377463
Oh man you're retarded

>>214377591
>Oh man, that's too much science for me.
ftfy

>>214373936
I could doxx myself and give you a list of what I've done and you'd just say its 4chan so I'm lying. I'm not saying I'm the only smart guy in the room, that's completely missing the point. I have a PhD and in the process of getting that and conducting research, especially multidisciplinary studies, I came to believe that academia as it is now is just a huge farce and it attracts a bunch of total faggots.

>>214368383
I fucking hate le ancient gayliens and Atlantis theories, and they're 100% part of Project Blue Beam, but out of Africa is easily the most braindead theory ever and is only pushed through constant censorship of any evidence against it and brainwashing people since childhood into believing it without giving it a second thought

>>214375678
What Graham says is that after that first civilization collapsed and 99% of them died, the few survivors scattered and integrated with hunter gatherer tribes, teaching them stuff from their civ and uplifting them into their own civilizations.

>>214377629
Naw buddy you're making stuff up. You're just stupid.

>>214366835 (OP)
When Jews spam threads like this it only solidifies my belief that whatever they're saying the opposite must be true. I don't even care about this dude but now I believe that he's 100% on the money about what he says.

>>214378187
wow great critical thinking. you must be very smart! i never knew blind contrarianism was a research method!

>>214369190
The guys that claim this can't even prove their technology does what they say let alone that the data and interpretations are correct.

>>214373822
He asks leading questions geared to a certain viewpoint without questioning his own assumptions.

>>214374824
Conjecture based on examination of physical evidence., not "what if?". It's a guess, but it an informed best guess.

>>214375470
A civilization comparable to the british empire during the age of sail (supposedly his words but I can't find a proper citation) that spanned the globe in one form or another but somehow managed to leave zero trace of itself other than second-hand sounds like magic to me.

>>214378424
30 years ago academics generally agreed that gallic civilization didnt even invent the wheel. Now it's generally accepted that their level of technology was at least on par with Rome's, only they used materials that deteriorate much faster like wood. This is a well-documented civilization with living genetic descendants and languages. Think about how this might apply to a civilization from before recorded history.

>>214378285
>contrarianism
pattern recognition