Thread 214374277

It's actually hitlarious how much Hollywood would rather die than recognize the humanity of disaffected young men.

>>214374277 (OP)
It's extremely important to keep society fractured.

>>214374277 (OP)
they are going to Hell and they already know that, they just want to corrupt as many souls as they can

>>214374277 (OP)
British TV series, where does Hollywood factor in?

>>214374277 (OP)
You realize that most of "Hollywood" producers, directors, writers, actors and all the money behind the studios is still white men. Take some responsibility for this shit.

>>214374317
Good meme. I saved it.
>>214374358
They are going broke. They ain't corrupting shit because nobody is watching.
>>214374374
It's the best result for "disaffected young men" on duckduckgo image search.
And I like his smirk.
And it kinda fits, because at no point does Adolescence recognize that the little boy is actually a victim of a system that refused to recognize him as an innocent child because of his gender.
>>214374423
You realize I am neither a part of hollywood nor a man. Exactly what am I taking responsibility for?

this one is the most brazen and hilarious

>>214374456
Sales manager of what? Counterfeit Nike?

>>214374317
Were the Mayans right about 2012?

>>214374456
Imagine working your ass off for years to get a promotion and having to share your celebration with some useless cunt whose achievement is "let some guy nut in me"

>>214374277 (OP)
Yeah chuddie, we'd die for our ideals, while you will sell out for just a whiff of pussy.

>>214374569
I'm a straight trans woman.
If you could stop bullying neurodivergent men into isolated seclusion I might be able to get a boyfriend.

>>214374456
Even in their make believe version of Whites doing the knock out game, they attack from the front, not from behind like the countless videos of niggers doing it.
>>214374423
jews arent White. Wtf are you talking about?

>>214374423
>white
you mean jewish

>>214374423
Not white men.
((("white"))) men

it's not a show made in hollywood

>>214375188
Doesn't affect my point.

>>214374277 (OP)
They humanized this kid so much he was nominated for an Emmy. Cry more, chud.

>>214374277 (OP)
>disaffected
Women don't owe you sex, malformed incel.

>>214374277 (OP)
Six million. Say it.

>>214375225
No they gave the actor an award for being completely beyond audience sympathy.
>>214375271
I am a woman. I like men.
I just think it's hitlarious that hollywood would literally rather fucking collapse than make content that tens of millions of cashed up shut-ins might enjoy.
>>214375291
Free Palestine.

>>214375315
>I am a woman. I like men
L O N D O N
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>>214375315
>Free Palestine
Idiot nazi right winger. The left is pro democracy. Both here and in Israel.

>>214374439
wtf is this 40 year old troon tripfag doing outside the containment board?

>>214375315
> I am a woman

>>214375315
Poltranny detected. Back to the meat grinder vatnik.

>>214374439
>And it kinda fits
Aside from being from a completely different country and not being a movie

>>214374423
Lol @ you

Humanity? Chuds ain't got no humanity.

>>214374277 (OP)
This new world order agitprop garbage backfired spectacularly. It's helped radicalise thousands of white high school boys. Forced error, Larry Fink. Enjoy the next kristalnacht.

>>214375188
Kill yourself

>disaffected

No women can't have rights and be recognised as human! I'M GOING INSANE

>>214374277 (OP)
They hate young men with problems (they don't hate young men who have no problems) so much that they would rather die than stop hating them. Many of them are old Jewish pedophiles, which probably has to do with why they hate young men with problems so much, because it reminds them of their victims.

>>214375733
Kill yourself

>>214374277 (OP)
Every time people ask what would make you happy you come up with something massively unworkable. When people make fun of this you seethe. What can people do to make you happy that isn't completely unreasonable? Name things.

>>214375188
Take a look at some of the production companies behind it.

>>214375751
and why would they hate young men with problems vs those without problems?
they can sell meds to the problematic one, shouldnt it be the opposite?

>>214375768
>it’s all made up productions

>>214375766
Kill yourself today
That would make me happy

>>214375775
Don't ask me faggot, they're the ones who hate young men with problems
They don't want to sell them things, they hate them and want to tell them they hate them

>>214375775
>why would they hate young men with problems
Because it gets in the way of their narrative that only girls have problems and that men are the cause of all the worlds problems

>>214375802
When young men respond to "don't rape us or make jokes about rape" with "actually you shouldn't vote at all, hole" there is going to be some resentment yes

>>214375841
>don't rape us or make jokes about rape
One of these things is not like the other lol
Nobody is raping you, you are a man

Men are the controllers of society and can do anything they want, to a degree far beyond women can. Any problems that I have seen guys I know complain about are self inflicted.

>>214374277 (OP)
Fuck that dude, he's 11 and he's still an incel; what the fuck is wrong with him?

>>214374277 (OP)
The pendulum is swinging back so violently towards the right now and they're shitting themselves. Enjoy the fruits of your labour leftists.

>>214375855
Yes I am? Why did you think I was a tranny? I love being a man. I like the personal responsibility for my actions part of it.

why are you here and not in your containment board you repulsive child raping, school shooting, fridge looking troon?

>>214375841
>When young men respond to "lets destroy western civilization because of our feelings while whoring around and not having children" with "actually you shouldn't vote at all, hole" then
Then young men are completely correct? Kill yourself, hole.

>>214375271
fags like you need to stop watching cuck porn all day long

>>214374456
lmao what the fuck?

>>214375890
>>214375841
>don't rape us
>why did you think I was a tranny
Oh so youre a male feminist faggot and probably an actual rapist like all male feminists

>>214375908
You want DEI but for men because you can't compete in a capitalist system.

>>214375271
Imagine if women couldn't get instant access to sex whenever they wanted it. You just know they'd handle it even worse than incel men.

>>214375944
You mean the capitalist system with crashing birthrates that can only survive by mass importing foreigners because feminist women don't breed?

>>214375944
>"capitalist system" where everyone currently gets DEI except white men

>>214375939
Nah, I just have a good relationship with my mother.

>>214375974
Have you considered they don't breed because they don't want to live chained to a stove and impregnated by a man who wouldn't even respect her if she was a mother? Even in shit hole Muslim countries where women can't go outside, they hate women less than the average Western incel. It's pretty interesting.

>>214376016
Lol, you are definitely a male feminist rapist. I have a great relationship with my mother and I don't simp for holes on 4chan. You and Neil Gaiman can both fuck off.

>>214374456
what show is this from? Got a YT link?

>>214376045
Lol, there is nothing worth saying to you other than that you should kill yourself.

>>214374456
>Nighttime in big city
>Black man running up behind you
RELAX ASIANS :)

https://adage.com/video/etsy-give-more-than-a-gift-bus-stop/

>>214376045
>Even in shit hole Muslim countries where women can't go outside, they hate women less than the average Western incel.
No they don't you absolutely retarded faggot

>>214374587
lmao

>>214375866
Parents today expect their 6 year old to have a boyfriend or girlfriend

>>214374562
>dont celebrate the fact you'll be a father soon, only work matters!

Incel or a kike, either way you are a retarded faggot

>>214376142
Yes, they do. They honor and respect their place in the home, as mother of their children. Their rules about modesty are all designed to protect them. Their entire society is essentially built around them, and the worship of what they do. They keep them out of the working and wider world because it is beneath them.

>>214374277 (OP)
I find their complete lack of empathy scary rather than funny. Because it's not just Hollywood that's infested with these people. They're everywhere in the education system, they're judges and politicians.

>>214376198
they are scared, they know they are gonna get breaded and circused soon because they offered none to their males. they hoped minorities will replace them but its completly failing, now they hope ai will take over.

>>214376198
Normal people will never find "I cannot have sex so I must murder people" acceptable no matter how many martyrs you make jokes about online Anon. It is concerning and makes people uncomfortable when you express this in public.

>>214376182
Holy shit you absolutely took the bait fucking lmao
When they beat their wives to keep them in line is that out of love and respect too? Holy shit you clown.

>>214376251
Jesus, youre all over this thread, go rape a feminist girl and fuck off

>>214376298
Projection. Yawn.

>>214376343
OK Neil Gaiman. Projection is the redditor's No, U.

>>214376251
the sad part is outside of white countries, people do think like that , just look at the Talibans

>>214374277 (OP)
The show literally says that young men are in trouble. That's the whole point of the show
>boy is neglected by his father
>spends his days going down online rabbitholes instead of doing social/productive things
>never grows up
>ruins his life
This describes 90% of anons and other men who are failing to integrate into society in one way or another. Not sure why anons are so mad, the show is literally on your side.

>>214374456
For me, it's this

>>214376511
and who does it blame for the men "failing to integrate into society"?

>>214376548
Society. Just say you didn't watch it next time

>>214376182
If Muslims honor women so much why do all the ones who come to the west go on a rape spree?

>>214375766
>arrest black criminals
>deport illegal bean
>completely unworkable

>>214376568
Because they kick out all of their trash to send to the West. Punishment for rape in those countries is death.

>>214376511
>>214376560
I don't believe you because youre a faggot.

>>214376548
Andrew Tate

>>214376625
What do you suppose the millions of rapists did before the west started allowing unchecked immigration lol. "The punishment for rape is death" you bought the con again.

>>214374277 (OP)
>humanity of disaffected young men
Why are they disaffected?

>>214376548
I'm not sure if you're illiterate or not but the first line of that anon's greentext says "neglected by his father"

Because mainstream society still can't basically admit Women can be sleezy, manipulative, self-interested, shallow fuckheads.
This is why the entire "incel" debate completely ignores the stats and reality that women are mostly just sleeping around with the same top percentage of men.
Like look at this video
https://youtu.be/D9qirk-Rb_g?si=kqvZzppE6ujdpsZ5
They completely ignore the stats that WOMEN ARE STILL FUCKING, IT'S YOUNG MEN WHO ARE NOT HAVING SEX. But they completely ignore that reality, because the entire narrative has to be that men are 100% in the wrong, not that women are basically acting as shallow as fuck sluts who are having constant easy hookups with 7+/10 men on Tinder.
I lived in a share house with several other female housemates, my room was next to the front door and I can tell you right now, every other night there would be some new 20 something chad turning up they would be hooking up with.

>>214376879
Try not being a creepy autistic weirdo and you will be able to have sex

>>214374277 (OP)
>hitlarious

>>214376879
>I can't have sex because my standards are too high so now I hate women
You are a stereotype

>>214376773
all the "men who are failing to integrate into society in one way or another" are because of that boys father or are you just being disingenuous on purpose

>>214374317
Biggest irony in all of this is that the minorities and disadvantaged groups would be much better off today if Occupy managed to get financial reform how they wanted it.

>>214376560
I didn't watch it. that's why I fucking asked.
but if all it is has is "its society's fault" then I know it's garbage.

>>214374456
remember: our enemies believe that if enough people believe their narratives, then it becomes true.
this is their ontology/worldview: if enough humans believe 2+2=5, then it'll become true through consensus.

>>214376912
>>214376887
Lmao, I hooked up all the time back in my dating years.
But unlike you retards, I actually can look at the general all round picture and see how the dating game looks, especially since I still have fucktonnes of friends in it, and it's obvious from what I've seen, and all the datasets, that it's women who have shifted to skyhigh expectations and have largley weaponized "red flags" against guys who might simply be awkward or whatever on a date, because women are incentivized to play victim.
The reality is Tinder massively shifted the dating game towards nothing but looks, and women will mostly hook up with 6+/10s on Tinder. This means most young women are sleeping around with a small pool of good looking young men. While most young men end up in droughts lasting years or even worse, staying virgins into their mid to late 20s.

>>214376959
So whose fault is it? You're just mad you fell for far right conspiracy bullshit again. Which is fine, just learn from this for next time.

>>214377101
>It's everyone's fault. I am le smart

>>214377156
Yes, thanks for agreeing.

>>214376511
>Not sure why anons are so mad, the show is literally on your side
it's propaganda used to censor the free flow of information on the internet

>>214377194
nevermind, just another (you) farmer

>>214377221
No, angloid politicians used the show for that purpose. The show never said the internet should be censored or that young men are bad.
>>214377224
You're just wrong and mad about it.

>>214377018
>have largley weaponized "red flags" against guys who might simply be awkward or whatever on a date,
And why shouldn't they? Lets just put it in the most basic terms, a woman is looking for a man who comes off as a protector, confident, strong. Because a woman is weak and usually temperamental and needs a firm, confident man to guide them
If you're spilling spaghetti on a date, do you think a woman wants you to protect them, or have kids with them that you'd be a strong father figure for? No. So you should work on fixing that.

>>214374277 (OP)
>bong show
>hollywood
wew lad

>>214374423
Source?
These are the five biggest movie studios
Disney
Warner's
Sony
Paramount
Universal

Not one of them is run by a white man.

For starters, these behaviors are mostly isolated and no way representative of the species behavior at large. All it shows is that some individuals will engage in them. This does not describe the generality that each and every members of the species will engage into. So this is to be kept in mind.

Then I'd like to remind that as of now, intelligence isn't even properly defined, and that all systematic attempts at having it be described in a system that is capable to account for all its nuances following a scientific method have failed to be 100% so far. Animal intelligence and hence the intellectual superiority of some of them is also hard to define. For the sake of the argument I'm going to use Leary's interpretation of intelligence under the 8 circuit system. I feel this is relevant because it describes symbolic-tool-using intelligence not as the finality of intelligence, but as one of its component. A cherry on the cake that likes to imagine itself as the whole cake. Much the same way that being capable to articulate ideas under symbols, plan things on, make maps, languages and use them effectively is an intellectual feat that does not guarantee that an individual will shine in the other aspects of intelligence, such as emotional-territorial or moral intelligence. This way, while a person can be a genius of mathematics and referred to as 'superior', he might be a complete dumbass in other areas of life. I think in the case of these species, the same pattern can be relevant. Belonging to a species generally considered more intelligent does not guarantee that members of this species will not engage in destructive, deviant, or plain unintelligent behaviors. If anything it just highlights that these behaviors are to be dissociated from the development of intelligence overall, because these acts serve no intelligent purposes. Thanks for reading my fancy blog post I hope your mom dies in her sleep tonight.

>>214374277 (OP)
No one is forcing you to watch it. Also
>british show
>hollywood
kek

>>214375271
yes they do actually

>>214374277 (OP)
I remember watching this, I couldn't get over how goofy everyone sounds. Anyway, pretty good take on how the kid's mind was corrupted and how the people are affected because of him. I think the show didn't put enough emphasis on how ignorant or retarded the parents have to be to let something like this happen, instead it gets blamed on the internet culture. Very poor way to deflect responsibility.

>>214378498
>everything is a man's responsibility
Kill yourself
>>214378985
Didn't they literally force school kids to watch it?

>>214379019
Based

>>214375879
Boomer here, I think so too. The left pushed to hard and too fast for any kind of equilibrium to form. They got too greedy, even my most liberal friends are getting fed up with tranny shit and the like.

>>214376544
Why are subways like this? It's so annoying when skinheads get on and start racially abusing everyone

>>214374456
Never happened. Because the women would get the ick from seeing her man knocked out so quickly, she’d immediately divorce him not stand by him

>>214379483
I don't know but, as an avid Hollywood Film watcher, it seems white men are always harassing and attacking people on public transport.

>>214376280
>incel doesn’t know a women’s brain operate differently
Women actually love to be beaten and strangled
How do 3rd world brown people figure out how women work, while whitey incels still haven’t figured it out

>>214376113
>what show is this from?
American Horror Story (don't know which season)

>>214379683
Don't you just hate it when three white men in suits assault you on the subway.

>>214376079
based

>>214379756
we arent allowed to do that idiot we go to prison
victim blaming retard

>>214376251
literally every single post you have made is a goofy strawman
just admit you dont have sympathy or empathy

every feminist or anti male post itt has been btfo
yes the world is rigged against us
yes we are victims of an unfair and ruined society
no we will not be gaslit
there is nothing you can say

>>214378498
>So you should work on fixing that.
and, of course, she's bringing what to the table? besides her half black kid?

>>214378498
>im justifying women being retarded unchecked and letting society burn down
ok stupid we know?
i wouldnt rape you with a dogs dick

>>214374277 (OP)
Is young white male crime on the rise in Bong land? Answer the question Starmer + sockpuppet Graham.

>>214380762
The right of 2025 becoming the SJW left of 2015 will never not be funny.

>>214380917
im glad you can tell me you're pretending to laugh about being embarrassed like a retard
you should post a selfie of how ugly you are next

>>214380969
Yeah you sure sound glad and not assblasted lmao

>>214381075
whatever in life makes me mad its not losers online like you
you cant even fight for whatever you believe in (its nothing)

>>214381075
>>214381099
You're both giganiggers and wrong in comparison to me thoughbeit.

>>214374317
Great image until you get to the corner and it's just more of the same shit. Funny how one type of retard has the omnicause while the other is monocausal.

>>214378985
Brad Pitt's production company produced it

>>214381603
>Great image until it gets to something im scared of and disagree with because of said fear

>>214381669
What am I scared of, your inability to understand the word monocausal?

The only thing i want is that retarded politicians and elites stop pandering to women and minorities. Thats it.
Like no special program and affirmative action, just treat everybody the same, Is that so fucking difficult and impossible to ask? Is that even a extreme right wing incel position?.

Personally, I don't give a fuck about men not getting government handouts or special laws for their problems, but I'll be damned if I ever see another politician pushing DEI garbage.
I don't care if we have to elect Trump like politicians again, I will not tolerate special treatment while men are treated like expendable garbage.

>>214374456
Wait until (((they))) remake the entire thing with that Ukrainian refugee woman that got killed, by making the killer a white guy.

Hollywood Jews have no sense of shame.

>>214381774
there was nothing wrong with the image and your need to say what you said proves it

>>214381817
>Is that even a extreme right wing incel position?.
if you validate the term incel at all than yes

>>214381912
>People asking for equality are the real incels.

The problem with liberals is that they invalidate their own positions. If you want the government to treat people differently by the gender or race, then what else can you even ask from men?.

>>214382001
turns out liberal just means person who wanted whatever they could get by lying at the time of abundant resources and emotional manipulation
they arent real or good people
im not a right winger but modern woke people are truly ebul and have no real souls

>>214381889
Your brain is addled by worms and those two claims are unconnected by any reasoning whatsoever. Also, address what I actually did say. Quit ignoring the nature of my criticism because you know it's valid and falling back to your particular flavor of cope.

>>214382125
you sound like you eat horsepaste and are inbred

>>214382161
You're pathetic. Not that anon.

>>214382216
im sorry you got mad at an image because it threatens your fake morals

>>214382161
>address what I actually did say
Not how it sounds to your ears deep underground. Not whatever other cope is up your ass. What I actually said. Which is that people like you embrace the same shity idpol, just a different flavor, and possibly even dumber in that it attempts to explain everything with a single cause.

>>214374456
>sales manager
Add it to the list.

>>214376016
Your mother may have forgiven you for raping those women, but I don’t.

>>214377906
>angloid
aaaaand there it is

>>214376958
How is that ironic

>>214374277 (OP)
>disaffected young men
What does this actually mean?
What specific problem do you want to solve and how do you propose to solve it?

>>214374277 (OP)
Anyone remember Cyber Bully? This is Gen Z's version of that. None of this is commentary, it's propaganda and it's only produced when they want to garner support from idiots to get rid of God given rights you were born with or make it impossible for group A to talk about how much group (((B))) is victimizing them. People have learned to see these patterns, even normies. The only people that still slurp up this divisive slop are the most brain dead political zealots who more often than not end up being sociopaths themselves pretending to be the "concerned average Joe" when in reality they just want to hurt who they see as their enemies.

Politicians are being gunned down, certain religious buildings are being targets for shootings, CEOs are being assassinated in the streets for their corruption because they laughed in the face of civility for generations. This is the type of shit that only used to happen in 3rd world South American countries and it's happening here now. General consensus is returning to nationalistic and paternal care of traditionalism. Kristallnacht 2.0 soon.

>>214375271
Men don't owe you protection.

>>214383392
Part of the reason Occupy didn't pan out was that minorities and disadvantaged groups didn't want to remain in solidarity with white people who were being screwed by the sub-prime mortgage crisis and the bail-outs. Occupy was very close to getting in bed with the Tea Party and the whole thing forcing both parties to institute financial reforms. After that they could have kept arguing over whatever, but a few 10's of millions of people from every background wouldn't have lost all the equity they'd already put into their homes.

>>214374456
I remember a lily white girl in highschool telling me she "knew" she was more safe among a group of black boys than she was a group of white guys and I've never forgotten it.

Why do tv shows and movies make out like all incel chuds are smug and violent and whatnot? I'm quiet and introverted.

>>214375315
>cashed up
They aren't though, by and large.

>>214376511
>failing to integrate
My integration was specifically declined by the elites. Don't you get it by now? It's not a "failure" of our own doing, they literally shut the door in our faces whilst keeping the door wide open for women and "minorities".
I am not nor will not be willing to contribute to a society that considers my wants and needs "entitlement" whilst at the same time considering the wants and needs of women to be tantamount to a religious imperative. If society believes survival of the fittest is the only way forwards, I am not fit. I choose not to be fit. I'll kill myself instead. And society would prefer this - one less mouth to feed.
I hate society because society doesn't value me and considers me pollution.

>>214374277 (OP)
ooooffffffffffffff.
in one sentence. ouch.

>>214374317
Stupid image. The dumbest thing here is thinking that the working class was behind OWS. It was all idiots with rich parents whining because their African Feminism degrees couldn't get them anything better than a Starbucks job. THEY were the ones pushing identity politics in the first place. Kikes didn't need to do shit. Leftists always end up fighting themselves.

>>214378498
What are lovers of strong, powerful, capable, and independent women supposed to do? What if we don't want to have to be the strong one all of the time? Wasn't feminism supposed to make this easier?
>inb4 women like this don't exist

>>214376568
Because to them the women not wearing ninja outfits are whores dressing provocatively, and they're literally 60 IQ like the majority of brown people so they don't understand that they're in a different culture and refuse to act accordingly even though they're treated like royalty. They're so fucking stupid they couldn't just not rape and attack people, now they're going straight back to their shitholes where they hopefully die

>>214384400
>My integration was specifically declined by the elites.
How? I am a 30 year old white man and have a good career, am married, etc. My family was lower middle class so I never had any advantages. I just put in a bit of effort here and there, and here I am. And I'm not a chad, either, just happen to be 6'4 and otherwise nothing special.

>>214384859
Yeah I hear you bro fr.

>>214384669
This doesn't answer any of my questions.

>>214384927
It does if you had any capability for critical thought.

>>214384950
So your life sucks because Gen Z women don't want kids? I don't get it

>>214384669
>Women hate the idea of having kids more than men hate the idea of therapy
Honestly impressive.

>>214384973
Hmm. I guess you don't. My bad.

>>214384973
Specifically Gen Z women on the left. This dumb chart changes 2 variables at once so you can't make any meaningful comparisons.

>>214384669
>Men put having children above being married, owning a home, and financial independence
>Men would seriously, actually define the peak of success as being a deadbeat dad who can't provide for his children
>"Why don't women want this? They just want to get you pregnant in a total shithole town while they work at Wal-Mart and you cook Hamburger Helper in a trailer you rent"

wow there are actually roasties itt. here i thought it was baiting anons

>>214385027
Those are men on the right. Of course they define success as being trailer trash.

>>214374456
This happened to me when i was 12-13. I was walking with a friend of mine and some guy, probably 4-5 years older, just stopped in front of us and punched me.
Didn't knock me out but broke my nose and cut my eyebrow, i have a pretty big scar. There was a few of his friends like 20 meters away and he just ran toward them and they were laughing.
It happened in broad daylight and there were a lot of people around, but nobody cares i guess.

>>214376142
Most Andrew Tate fans are Arabs in the West.

>>214385027
>>214385054
The only people who care about materialistic shit are women and faggots.

>>214385115
If you can't support your children you shouldn't have children. The fact that having children is more important to them than marriage is fucking hilarious. Again, they're fine with being deadbeats. That's the peak of achievement to them, cumming inside a woman and then doing nothing else. I'd get it if it was at least "making family proud" because that would connect it with some sort of "I must spread my genes" scenario but this really does read like they just want to be manwhores with lots of baby mamas.

>>214384669
and here we have the reason for declining birth rates. better import the third world because foids think having a family is the same as slavery

>>214376511
Except most online incels haven't done anything like this kid. 99% of incels aren't school shooters, serial killers, or rapists. It's mostly just guys complaining online. Even if they lean misogynistic, that's not a crime and doesn't mean they harm women.

>>214385186
Glad to see the right in America defend a proud immigrant from a brutal attack from a heritage American whose family has been here for centuries

>>214381603
>>214381774
>>214382125
>>214382216

>>214385186
Funny part is that as >>214385211 said this was an American brutally murdering a peaceful immigrant who was doing nothing wrong

>>214385255
>brutally murdering
that's called an undocumented haircut, chuddie

>>214385069
Everyone hates this, but nobody knows what to do about it.

>>214385027
I think you're going about thinking about this the wrong way. When the men answer on whether they'd want kids, they answer on their idea of what having kids would look like, and etc for the rest. and in that world the idea of having kids, for most guys, is almost always gonna be hugely important. they're not actively thinking "I'd be happy to be a deadbeat dad", they're just thinking "I wanna be a dad", which is completely reasonable. you are likely either autistic or a woman. I shouldn't really have to explain this to you at all.

>>214376544
It says more about them that they have to make all these guys White. Reality is so far from what they depict. Depicting reality is racist. They focus on Whites and get a lot more in depth when it's White criminals. Reality would be "Black Teens Mob Assault 43".

You really have to wonder if all these people know or if they don't. I can't imagine how someone could make movies like this and not ever consider how ridiculous it is. There's countless videos online of black people committing crimes and being anti social in general. It's not like progressives don't talk about black people like they're unstable and dangerous. You have to be a propagandized retard not to question it. Their claims for why they do it make no sense either. Having movies with mostly black criminals doesn't matter when 90% of the shootings that were reported on the nightly news in my area involved black people. You couldn't even make a reality based movie without being accused of racism.

>>214385505
Wanting to be a dad but not wanting the things that make being a GOOD dad possible has the effect of that they want to be a deadbeat or at least completely distant dad. They don't want to care about their kids, they just want to have them. They subscribe to the JD Vance theory of fatherhood: it's your wife's responsibility to do everything

>>214384669
I think the most interesting thing here isn't the contrast (which is to be expected) in priorities but rather the difference in spread. although having kids is clearly the most important, men have a much more tight grouping with just one or a couple points of difference for the top ten things (for instance, the 9th item down is only 13 percentage points lower than the 1st item up). Women on the other hand cluster heavily around the first two, then there's already a 12 point drop from the first item to the 3rd, and by the time we're halfway down the chart the percentage points are halved; it's also worth noting that the top three options for women have a much higher percentage point than the top three options for men, by around 20% on average. What do we think this could mean?

>>214385567
They'd want to do those other things if if helped them to be a dad, they wouldn't want to do those other things if it wasn't helping them be a dad. Caring for their kids is the highest priority, they don't see kids as a trophy on top of being a career man or even a married man.

Some men DO see kids like they're a trophy they can have on top of a career, sadly this attitude has historically been pretty successful. A lot of women are interested in men who are like that, and they're happier if the men are less involved outside of providing money.

>>214385663
>hey're happier if the men are less involved outside of providing money
I really do not think I have ever met a woman who said "I am happy that my husband does not help with our kids"

>>214385657
We overcorrected the lack of women in education problem we had 15-20 years ago

>>214374277 (OP)
I think emmy-nominated show adolescence is off the mark, personally

>>214385567
You're massively overthinking this, and you're almost certainly autistic or a woman anon. Again, these guys aren't thinking about each of these options in relation to one another as a zero sum game, they're just thinking about each one as its own thing in a metaphysical kinda way. At the end of the day, to most men, having kids is not just a rational pursuit but something instinctive, whilst most of the other options are purely rational, material concepts. More importantly, your assertion that they're actively, consciously believing that they want to be a deadbeat dad has no evidence to back it up and I'm fairly certain you're not arguing in good faith as you referenced politics in your reply. I personally think vance is a bitch and a rube, and that trump should be publically hung (along with most elected officials), but the way you brought vance in makes me think you're not trying to make a correct point, you just think trump voters are retards

>>214385728
how does that relate to my observation?

>>214385657
Jesus am I the only one who noticed that they changed Political Affiliation in addition to Gender?
It's all meaningless. Maybe female trump voters want kids as much as the male ones do and it all evens out. You can't draw any conclusions from this garbage poll.

>>214382001
Liberals/progressives/leftists are the political version of nice guys. Ironic that they can't seem to figure that out. They hide behind equality when they're being disingenuous. It works great because criticizing them makes you look like an asshole. Even criticizing how fake they can be gets you accused of being an asshole because obviously you're not nice, so of course you think they're faking. Their actions show otherwise.

You can easily write off right leaning people as poor dumb uneducated ignorant retards. With left leaning it's harder. Their image is curated so that they appear superior. They're smarter more educated and more thoughtful. In reality they're not. They also set themselves up for failure because you can't act above everyone and then fail to deliver. Why do they suck if they're so much better? They have massively inflated egos and they're not as nice as they claim they are. When they complain about optics it's not because they're too dumb to figure it out which is as far as they go on self criticism (we're just bad at optics lol). It's because they're nasty people larping as good. If they did they wouldn't treat others like they're subhuman.

If a right leaning person is racist at least they're more upfront about it. Left leaning people take out their anger on Whites because they're cowards. Left leaning people are social eugenicists who despise lesser people. That explains all their behavior, but they have to protect their good guy image. Social eugenicists are fucking creeps. They make Nazis look ridiculous.

Yes Dawkins is a scientist so of course he's going to discuss religion with respect to its material claims. He wouldn't have such fertile territory to explore were it not for the fact that religions often do make material claims about the universe or, at the very least, they have a large number of believers who interpret their faiths in such a way.
You simultaneously criticize him having insufficient knowledge outside his field yet demand his arguments attain an unbounded breadth so as to encompass more diverse interpretations of religion. Now satisfying one surely means betraying the other, no? You admit no plausible criteria in which Dawkins' argument can satisfy you or even be evaluated by you as substantive because you have a puerile hostility towards his existence. In short, you're arguing in bad faith.
It's also worth nothing that defining a narrow bounds for a conversation is scholarly practice. If you don't agree with the material claims put forward by most religions then Dawkins' criticism should mean nothing to you. If anything, you should appreciate it, as it may drive away the more clownish adherents who tend to detract from everyone else.

>>214385695
Really?

I've heard of women like that from some rich-frens. One was saying their mother would be pissed if the dad wasn't spending every available hour earning money so she could spend it.

>>214385782
>am I the only one who noticed that they changed Political Affiliation in addition to Gender
no

>>214374456
>keep your guard up on at all time

>>214385782
I disagree, as much as I think it'd be important to also see what trump voting women vs harris voting men prioritise, it's still statistically valuable to look at trump men vs harris women. the problem is that you're looking at it as a binary men vs women comparison, when really it's a discrete group 1 vs discrete group 2 comparison. I'd argue though that since more men voted for trump and more women voted for harris (iirc), you can still draw meaningful conclusions about men vs women here generally.

>>214385657
>What do we think this could mean?
Susceptibility to social pressure or propaganda. Men seem to have a more varied and natural distribution of priorities, whereas women are more likely to move as a herd and choose the same priorities as other women.
>>214385782
It's illustrating a gender gap within politics. If you fail to understand something, it doesn't mean it was trying to fool your genius intellect or that it's garbage.

>>214376544
>Call the amberlamps!
Said the two skinheads

>>214384669
>>214385782
here's the one with male harris voters vs female harris voters for further digestion
source:https://x.com/SteveKornacki/status/1965046328251261174

>>214385886
>the problem is that you're looking at it as a binary men vs women comparison
That's what all the idiots in this thread are doing, and why I'm shitting on them for it.

>>214385921
>It's illustrating a gender gap within politics.
No it isn't because it's leaving out half the fucking data.

>>214385996
>men who voted for Harris have almost the same disinterest with marriage and kids as the women
>women who voted for Trump also rank marriage and kids higher in the ranking.
So it sounds like it was more of a difference in political affiliation than gender, as I fucking expected.
THIS IS WHY YOU NEED ALL THE FUCKING DATA

>>214385996
Huh, the same kind of distributions. I take back what I said before >>214385921. Seems like it's a left and right issue and not gender.

>>214385996
see now this is REALLY interesting because now it seems almost like politics is the driving difference here rather than gender. I find it fucking absurd that having children and getting married is 9% for the eunuchs that voted for harris; I find it even more interesting that the weird top-heavy spread is also clearly a harris vs trump thing than a men vs women thing. clearly something about conservative americans favours the even spread of priorities.

keep in mind also that about 55% of men voted for trump and about 55% of women voted for harris

>>214386039
So it's not women's fault that our labor force is shrinking to the point we need to replace everyone with immigrants, but the left's? That doesn't make sense, the left is the champion of labor and the right is the champion of international capitalism.

>>214386039
>>214386042
I agree with both of you that upon consulting a wider dataset, we should rescind some of our earlier conclusions, but I would argue that as per what I say here >>214386069 given more men voted for trump and more women voted for harris by a statistically significant margin, we can still infer SOME primarily gender based conclusions rather than purely political conclusions about these stats. tl dr for the dumb fuckers I think the original stat can still tell us a lot about the difference between men and women in the current zeitgeist even if generally speaking the stats speak more to politics than to gender

rare gem of a thread on /tv/
carry on my statistical niggaz

>>214386069
the people who voted for harris were never-trumpers and people who unironically just do whatever the media tells them to, like something straight out of 1984 and us always having been at war with eastasia. women are much more likely to be media stooges, so that more of them voted for harris (despite women actually preferring men over women in positions of leadership) is not surprising.

what was the spread on trump vs. hillary? harris was such a horrible candidate, it's kind of surreal to me that a single person would vote for her. not that hillary was great either, but even she made harris look like a paragon by comparison. so I would've expected even more women to have voted for hillary vs. for harris.

>>214386210
I feel like Clinton came through at the last possible time as a candidate. Partially due to the vibe shift once trump got elected the first time round, but generally speaking mainstream awareness of how fucking evil the clintons are (especially off the back of all the epstein shit) has skyrocketed in the last half decade. It would be politically impossible to run her as a candidate any later than 2016. Not that this has any bearing on anything just thought it was an interesting observation. Also unrelated but where did the epstein shit even start? Who even wanted him arrested in the first place, given how deep his connections were? If it was bad enough that they killed him for it, and virtually every major world person is somehow involved, how the fuck did he even get arrested in the first place? I was younger then but I remember him dying just kinda coming out of nowhere and not having heard about him at all beforehand.

>>214375554
Who is the bald guy next to Hurley?

>>214384669
>having children first vs last
Cooked, as the kids say

>>214386039
The woman's priority for children is still much lower. Also the vast majority of women were Harris voters.

>>214386089
No, the left threw that out when they sold out to neolibs and only preserved their identity politics. They now also want unlimited cheap labor for their daddy corporations, but for minority reasons.