Thread 214396188

>>214396188 (OP)
Hoax

>>214396188 (OP)
Finally something that makes them stop clapping.

>>214396188 (OP)
>The Challenger explosion is filmed before live studio audience.
In all seriousness RIP, what a shitty way to go.

>>214396188 (OP)
and?

>>214396188 (OP)
it was a psyop so that teachers wouldn’t strike, she was union leader

>>214396188 (OP)
I lived in FL and was a little kid at the time. I watched her die live with my eyeballs :-(

>>214396188 (OP)
this is why material science should be taken more seriously
fucking NASA engineers missing crucial courses in college

>rocket start to leak and looses control
>it flies wildly
>crew cabinet seperates
>cabinet flies and hits ocean
>from loose to control until crash almost 3 minutes
>some of crew were alive and conscious whole time

>>214396429
Actually nasa was warned about o ring issue. Company that warned them didn't give them greenlight to launch. Nasa presure them until they gave them greenlight.
Failure was part of people rising alarm. They failed to present data in way where it was clear o ring would fail.
They just said it's too cold. Probability of o rings falling was high and they shouldn't launch until they knew more. Rather then presenting graphs of launches where there was o ring issue and where there wasn't with tempeture of launches.
It would have made it clear colder there is. More o ring issues there is. And this was coldest launch yet

>>214396334
Instantly in a giant explosion in a rocket ship? I disagree

>>214396509
Not to mention that you can hear them being burned alive. And said fires also melted them to the insides of their suits and they had to be buried in them.

>>214396188 (OP)
don't see what's so great about space. waste of time.

>>214396625
>investigation reports that followed stated the factors leading to death included high temperature, overpressure, and hypoxia with inhalation of products of combustion
>>214396666
No black people

>>214396509
>crew cabinet

>>214396623
>instantly
who's going to tell him

>>214396509
>looses control
>crew cabinet
>from loose to control
>some of crew

>>214396680
[audience laughter]

>>214396188 (OP)
I was on that shuttle, it wouldn't have gone down like that

>>214396733
Likely a mix of aggressive phone autocorrect and it being 4chan so people don't proofread.

>>214396680
No one tell him.

>>214396334
at least she died a hero.
okay, not really. astronauts aren't heroes.

>>214396188 (OP)
It could have been Big Bird.

>>214396745
Yes, the final flight recording would have been girlish screaming.

>>214396188 (OP)
Fucking awesome death though.

>>214396759
Nice try, jeet.

>>214396759
yeah fucking right

>>214396791
and there's the silver lining. you were burned alive, but at least some kids think it was real neato.

>>214396816
It was impact with ocean that finally killed them. They would have died to fire, decompression and g forces eventually. But impact happened first

>>214396945
>It was impact
>died to fire

>>214396774
>moon crew
>never been to the moon
clown world

>>214397103
Yeah you're right, pussy anon

>>214396188 (OP)
>>214396509
>>214396595
Columbia Disaster was even more fucked up. Challenger blew up on the way up, Columbia on the way down.
>Two days later, after reviewing film of the launch and detecting the foam impact on the left wing, NASA engineers made a request to shuttle program managers for an in-orbit, high-resolution image of the Columbia's left wing to check for damage. The shuttle program managers declined the engineers' request to image the shuttle's wing before reentry.
>According to one source, a total of three requests were made and rejected for imagery of Columbia in-orbit during the 16-day mission. In addition, the CAIB identified eight missed opportunities to determine the extent of the damage, all of which either got no response from mission management or resulted in no action being taken
>In the face of Mission managers' low level of concern and desire to get on with the mission ... the engineers found themselves in the unusual position of having to prove that the situation was unsafe—a reversal of the usual requirement to prove that a situation is safe.
Picrel was the lead manager for the Columbia mission.

>>214397560
In the mind of a politician it's better to make it just a tragedy than an avoidable tragedy

>>214397560
How could anyone look at such a face and think it can lead anything at all? Physiognomy may not be right 100% of the time but it's still right enough

>>214396188 (OP)
We were in music class when it happen... can you believe I chose the fucking trumpet in that class? My little body didn't have the lungs for that!

>>214396188 (OP)
Was she ok?

>>214397560
Columbia was basically
Engineers:
>Hey we think there is something seriously wrong with the shuttle that could prove disastrous upon reentry may we please do something to fix it?
Linda Ham:
>Have sex incel

Budd Dwyer

>>214397937
>may we please do something to fix it?
I don't think there was much they could have done

>>214397982
Linda Ham is that you?

>>214396188 (OP)
I didnt see it live, but the 1st grade class next to me did. Somebody screamed, teachers were devastated, and there was a punky brewster episode about it where the dad trooned out.

>>214396714
>The crew compartment of the Space Shuttle Challenger hit the ocean surface approximately two minutes and forty-five seconds after the vehicle breakup during the explosion
Wow I'm glad this wasn't pointed out to me as a kid, wish I could have died without knowing though thanks anon

>>214398084
bot

>>214397560
Your application to be an astronaut was denied. You more than exceed the technical requirements, but NASA is a family and I'm afraid you just don't vibe with the team.

it was a national tragedy

It took them 7 minutes and 43 seconds to hit the ocean and they where conscious the whole time

I wonder at what point the G-suits tolerance was exceeded and they blacked out.

Space Shuttle had a 1.8% catastrophic failure rate. Only one of its missions the fix on the Hubble telescope lens(fixing a screw-up ) was the only mission that required a shuttles capabilities. It did nothing a standard rocket could have achieved. Massive waste of money and resources. perhaps it might have been worth if it had been a stepping stone to new tech but it was all lessons where thrown away and engineers old and dead now.

>>214398355
They where pressing buttons and getting out survival gear all the way down

all it took was a blown out O-ring.

>>214396774
Now that there I says I says, that boy there be a proper moon cricket!

Owen Benjamin has a bit about this i have been trying to find
Its before he went full schizo mode, pls post it if you have it

>>214396188 (OP)
If I was in that cockpit it wouldn't have gone down the way it did

anyone into space shit can tell me if there are any "asshole" astronauts? this group of people are pretty much the most highly evaluated and selective group to get into.

I was a schoolkid at the time this happened, and I remember all the hype about them having a teacher on board and all the teaching of 'muh space science' she was going to be doing - IN SPAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCEEE!!!!!

If you know anything about actual real science, then you already know the lame and gay shit like that NASA does. It's the most elementary boring shit with said midwit astronaut fags doing the same lame zero-G backflips like we hadn't already seen that a million times even then.

A few years back NASA had their spacetards teach the lessons that the dead teacher was going to teach from space if she didn't blowed up. Guess what? It was nothing but the same old lame and gay shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O32D4KVxyDs

Pathetic.

>>214398421
you always know someone is lost or awful if they hate on the Big Bear

>>214398337
And the reason why they faked their deaths?

>>214398389
Thanks reddit

>>214398479
Not really. Plenty of assholes behind the scenes though

>>214398585
I stopped posting on reddit after 9/11

>>214398530
Life insurance fraud.

>>214398337
I am also my own twin brother who is dead, like two of these people who share the same title as Katy Perry.

>>214398606
In just two days that will be a full year of no reddit. Congrats.

>>214398413
It also happened again in the Summer of '92.

>>214398530
they thought it was funny

>>214398599
Every astronaut I've seen has a calm and competent phenotype guess that's why I genuinely never find it funny when they die.

>>214398530
Either
1) there’s never been any “astronauts” in these rockets and they didn’t expect it to blow up, so they had to force them into hiding to keep up the illusion
or
2) they didn’t want anyone asking “hey, why can’t some Joe Schmo go up into space, who only a select few?” so they came up with this scenario to scare people away from wanting to go to space

>>214398389
Not sure who was at fault for how the Shuttle program turned out, but when it was presented to Nixon as the evolution of the space program, what he was shown was effective, both in terms of cost and productivity. Safety was assumed. All three turned out to be wrong.

>>214398685
There's terror hiding behind the surface.

>>214398479
Lisa Nowak.
Serena Auñón-Chancellor.

>>214398717
shut up

>>214398737
i can fix her...

>>214396188 (OP)
I wonder if this was just a way to start defunding space programs? The establishment likes to exploit tragedies to push financial interests like when they stopped developing nuclear because of Chernobyl and Fukushima when nuclear is easily the cheapest and cleanest method of generating electricity.

>>214398737
She's not an asshole she's just crazy

>start DEIhiring
>NASA rockets start failing
Notice the pattern????

>>214398818
Shut the fuck up

>>214396334
idk looks like a badass to go, even if brutally and agonizingluy

>>214398838
But enough about Linda Ham murdering seven astronauts and getting promoted for it.

Humilliation ritual
>remember you will never amount to anything even if the whole country does charity for it you filthy goyim
And they took it to heart, not a single person in america dreams of space since the 90's

>>214398888
What could they have realistically done in orbit? Make it to the ISS until a long term fix is found?

>>214398825
What did she do?

>>214396188 (OP)
The early 2000s/late 90s really were the death of america. Space as a dream was dead, 9/11 proved all our military buildup was a bluff and incompetent since probably 1960, the internet was the last real line of hope for culture but then corporations took over that too

>>214398969
>the internet was the last real line of hope for culture but then corporations took over that too
It was always corporations. Stop being a doomer though

>>214396188 (OP)
Ben Lerner wrote about being a school kid watching it live in 10:04 a good novel. Leaving attachable station is better I think

>>214398910
Engineers tried to contact those in the intelligence community to see if their sats could image the shuttle to determine if there was damage or not. She said no. They contacted the CIA and NRO anyway, which sent her on a witch hunt to find out who disobeyed the boss girl. Meanwhile the status of the Shuttle was unknown, and she was wasting time on being angry over being disobeyed instead of searching for solutions.
There were several possibilities for repairing the damage if they knew the exact locations. They all had a low probability of success but that doesn't justify her wasting time playing HR Karen instead of doing everything in the agency's power to find solutions. Perhaps there was no viable solution that would have worked. She didn't even try. Just wanted to let fate do its thing. She was well aware that as a woman she would face no consequences for her failure in leadership. And she was correct about that.
You have to be a Grade A simp to go looking for ways to defend her but we all know Grade A simps can't help themselves anymore than a girl boss can contain her anger over being disobeyed.

>>214398910
Maybe not ignore your engineers? that would have been a good place to start.

>>214399039
>Incel hands typed this

>>214399060
Not an answer

>>214398706
>“hey, why can’t some Joe Schmo go up into space, who only a select few?”
Might have something to do with the astronomical costs, retard.

>>214399118
>astronomical costs
booooooooooooo

>>214398969
It's also about the time where the US decided to import 70 IQ third worlders by the millions.

>>214396188 (OP)
>>214396334
We witnessed a teacher ascend to Heaven and meet God to live in his everlasting grace you mean. We should all be as lucky as her.

We are so close to the greatest space kino ever made.

>>214399023
Not him but how can you not be a doomer right now? We're literally heading into a 1984 dystopia. What is there to be hopeful for?

>>214396188 (OP)
I found a clip on youtube of live coverage of the Challenger disaster and one of the reporters knew the instant it exploded something had gone very wrong. Wish I could find it again, it was either a local station's news coverage or radio, it wasn't CNN or anyone like that. Pretty much every other reporter covering the launch didn't understand there was a problem until mission control said "Obviously a major malfunction."

sure they did

>>214399023
>It was always corporations.
Ibmean yeah, but there used to be more unregulated space like 4chan. I used to be able to say nigger in youtube comments.
>Stop being a doomer though
Absolutely fucking not. Being a doomer is necessary to spread the awareness of how fucked up our country has become. I'm not gonna put my head in the sand and pretend that more corrupt politicians are what we need to save the world. No one gives a shit about white people, no one gives a shit about the freedom american colonists sought, and no one cares about the middle class masses. We're cattle to them and they're going to replace us with niggers or AI one way or another, or just make us all slaves to a dystopian ai monitered coporatocracy. I don't see the average person trying to stop this, and every political movement against it gets co-opted by the rich and powerful until its just another establishment club.

>>214399307
Isn't that just the Moon?

>>214399412
You're not "spreading awareness" about anything. Nobody needs you to be annoying. You're just trying to justify being depressed loser.

>>214399330
>one of the reporters knew the instant it exploded something had gone very wrong.
What a genius.

>>214396188 (OP)
>school children across America witnessed a teacher die live on television
Technically true but generally bullshit. The only people who got access to a live feed of the launch were specific classes which were part of a pilot educational program. There were probably less than 100 students in the entire nation that were part of that program and saw it happen. Everyone else who wasn't at the cape saw it on the news coverage hours later after word had already gotten out of what happened.

>>214399453
>You're just trying to justify being depressed loser.
Get used to it, you're on 4chan not a facebook prayer page. What is this for if not for saying shit that annoys the average normalfag? If enough people were "doomers" they might actually decide to get together and stop the train that abouts to go off the fucking rails. But all the other passengers just want to sip their fucking tea and eat their sandwich and say "stop ruining this for me dude". Get fucked.

>>214399465
Most reporters are know-nothings so when something goes awry they're stunned silent. The split second the fireball erupted this reporter (who iirc was that station's regular Shuttle reporter) actually knew what was going on and wasn't left sitting there with his thumb up his ass

>>214399500
>If enough people were "doomers" they might actually decide to get together and stop the train that abouts to go off the fucking rails.
The problem is that you're very dumb but you think you're very smart. You think "dude the friggin corporations maaan its literally 1984" is some profound statement that will wake the world up if only people listened but really its just trite.

>>214399480
Holy shit you are stupid, it was covered by CNN live and was a national story within minutes of the explosion

>>214399548
So you're excited about the prospect of being replaced by indians and AI? Or just delusional enough to think that companies won't go for the lowest bidder?

>>214399480
My mom kept me home from school so I could watch it live. You've been misinformed. At this point, you're probably feeling compelled to defend your incorrect belief, but try to keep in mind that you were wrong.

>>214396188 (OP)
>>214396292
>>214396197
yuro trannies seething because yuros are too dumb to into space

Thank god Big Bird never made it onto that cursed flight

>>214396429
>>214396595
Anecdotal, but an old coworker of mine thought the rubber o-ring explanation was horseshit. He was a former Air Force mechanic and said they've used graphite rings (that withstand temperature changes) in high altitude (spy) planes since the 60s and that rubber o-rings would never have been used to seal anything as important as the shuttle. Something to think about.

>>214396623
>Instantly in a giant explosion in a rocket ship?

>>214396334
>Shitty
>Dying in a massive rocket explosion

Did actual body parts come down or does an explosion like that just completely disintegrate your body?

>>214396595
am i just having a weird day or this guy spoken in really broken english? there are people responding to him though like they understood what he said
>It would have made it clear colder there is. More o ring issues there is.
what the fuck are you saying?

>>214396188 (OP)
Her last lesson was certainly explosive.

>>214399982
Honestly not sure about Challenger, but they found body parts after the Columbia broke up, although I'd say that was a far more violent but mercifully quick end

It was far more traumatizing for children nationwide to see the Twin Towers attacked and collapse killing thousands.

We didn't go to the moon until the 90's

>>214399039
>>214398888
>>214397560
This "person" is half demon half human and serves/exists as a bringer of sacrifice. 1000% a plant to make the shuttle go boom for whatever reason (loosh harvesting maybe a la Monster's Inc but at a national level)