Thread 214415479

>everybody clowned on this when it came out because it was Kelso trying to be a serious actor
>watch it two decades later
>it's pure kino

>>214415479 (OP)
Overall, I enjoyed it. There was a great idea here, but the execution of some scenes weren't the best. I feel the same way about Strange Days. Great idea but flawed execution.

>>214415479 (OP)
>time travel
Into the trash it goes

>>214415479 (OP)
Shit on at the time of its release but still better than most blockbusters released today

Waterworld

>>214415479 (OP)
I never watch that 70s bullshit so I took it as it was. Great film, very tragic

>>214415479 (OP)
I always loved this one, even as a kid. I don't think I have rewatched in a decade or so. Should probably rewatch now in adulthood... yknow what, I will.

>>214415566
This.

I like Butterfly effect 3 because of her

>>214416410
>3
Uh.. what?

>>214415542
How was this hated?

>>214416676
It got straight to DVD "sequels" that were just random time travel movie scripts with the Butterfly Effect title slapped on in hopes it would raise sales.

In one of them the antagonist turns out to be the time traveling lead's sister who is also secretly a time traveler and wants to fuck him because he used his time travel to save her life from a house fire as a child. I don't remember if that was 3 and the woman in the picture, though.

>>214415479 (OP)
Ashton Kutcher and Topher Grace are relentlessly handsome.

>>214415479 (OP)
never understood why people hate this movie

It's been awhile since I've seen it but I liked how intense the movie was while still having some levity and how willing they were to go to places in the plot. If this passed as a bad movie at the time of release, it beats out most the stuff now

>>214415479 (OP)
I didn't like it for overly grimdark it was. The guy tries to kill himself before just time traveling again? It's such a monkeypaw movie. Also the whole proving he can do it to the guy in prison literally breaks the rules the movie set. Stupid. The original ending is bad, but good lord the alternate ending is worse, where he is a sentient fetus and kills himself. Writer obviously loved this idea so much they didn't bother to come up with a well written ending.

>>214419060
>Writer obviously loved this idea so much they didn't bother to come up with a well written ending.
Yeah, he even put in that scene where the mom says she had multiple "miscarriages" before finally having Ashton. So we can assume his siblings had the same ability and all killed themselves in the womb too.

Kevin Durand was great as a cholo prisoner. I wanted more of proximus teaser. I will learn and I will conquer.

>>214415479 (OP)
Everything on this list

>>214415479 (OP)
>>214416410
Me, I only watch 2 for Smallville's Lois Lane's sex scene.

>>214415548
Alan Ritchson should continue playing Aquaman not Batman who's destined to be Ashton Kutcher imagine if Catwoman was Mila Kunis rather than a nigger that replaced this beautiful Ukrainian actress even in Wicked Witch movies and of course Superman always looks similar to the Caped Crusader in the comics so it'd be a nice opportunity to put Josh Hartnett there he was actually considered when they chose Brandon Routh Henry Cavill and even Ben Affleck over him. The Other Guys Mark Wahlberg would make for a good James Gordon while his co-star Will Ferrell would be playing Lex Luthor

>>214419428
I liked the valkyrie scenes in this.

>>214415479 (OP)
Well yeah, compared to anything recent films from the 00's are bound to be kino.

>>214417448
you're not fooling anybody with that comment Mila

>>214419119
oh wow I never realized that, poor mother is cursed and she probably will never understand why

The gallows is probably the lowest rated movie I've seen that I liked.
>>214415548
>Spiderman 3 and Schumacher batman were shit on for being campy
>most capeshit since then is just as
campy
>>214420900
>One of the arguments that the family weren't pedos is because a pictures of their living room doesn't show kiddie porn
Doesn't get as much hate as it deserves

>>214419428
Mila Kunis could clone herself ten times and attempt to seduce me into a mega harem with all of her versions and I would still choose prime Halle Berry over that. you are a pathetic little zoomie calling her a nigger because youre too much of a faggot to understand how good she was

I used to love this movie
Theatrical ending, not the stupid one where he strangles himself as a baby. Retarded.
One of the biggest flaws is that the scene where he stabs his hands and the wounds "appear" breaks all of the established rules. But I guess you can headcannon that sometimes his powers work differently, I mean if his mind can travel through time, why the heck not
Otherwise it's kino that teaches an important lesson: Some of us are damaged goods and should let women go rather than destroy their lives by injecting ourselves into them

>>214415479 (OP)
People just got worse taste as their brains fried from constant internet usage so their standards dropped.

>>214415542
This shit will never not make me laugh. It is like Freddy Got Fingered. They take me back to better times.
The scene at the restaurant is genius to me, Rip Torn killed that role.

>>214421643
That alternate ending man, the fetus cut I mean.
I loved that movie, it was so depressing. It is hated??

>>214421723
no people usually consider the alternate ending better and more interesting

>>214421643
the theatrical ending is more kino just for the shot you posted, but the fetus suicide ending is actually the neater one. the ridiculously dark nature of it seems to fit the tone of preceeding movie better

>>214421711
that movie was well-received and won awards though

>>214415479 (OP)
I always forget that Kutcher played Kelso

>>214415479 (OP)
Army of Darkness

>>214415548
You know, for a finale in a trilogy I think it is just a huge letdown. No one wanted to see a movie just about Peter’s inner conflict and the symbiote just being a representation of that. We wanted to see him fight Eddie Brock

>>214421627
Gallows was a good standard found footage. The sequel though was shit.

>>214420900
>>214421627
Have not watched that doc but you sound schizo so you are probably wrong

>wahhh, the real ending was too grim dark! I like the retarded nu Hollywood ending!
Ngmi

>>214415479 (OP)
The Butterfly Effect was a good idea but poorly executed, but the movie is worth it because Kino Show was born thanks to the theft of that idea.

Maybe it's still too early but /tv/ went full retard on this.

>>214422379
exactly

>>214421606
Its really why I hate the alt ending. Life is so miserable and with time travel the better result is to unborn yourself? You will never know if you made life better for people around you. It's just a morbid dark ending for the sake of it. Generally not how you do story telling. The whole movie is incredibly dark and to have a dark ending just makes the journey feel pointless.

I always remember the one time he goes back and is being blown by a tranny for some reason. What a hilarious film

Killing himself in the womb is a shitty ending , because the very fact his father reached adulthood and never tried to kill himself as a a fetus or as a child proves that people with the time travel ability are able to overcome nihilism and seek to solve their problems.

The point of the movie is captured in the scene with his father
>that's bullshit. I'll send you a postcard after I've made everything perfect again.

The real ending is about the triumph of the human will. The story of humanity is about forcing your will onto the world around you and conquering the obstacles of the environment.

The gay, cancelled, extra-content ending is about being a nihilist , defeatist, anti-natalist cuck loser.

>>214415548
>still better than most blockbusters released today
That's an incredibly low bar

the 00s really were the last decade before white culture fell off a cliff

>>214425627
Right around the time the internet became popular. Weird!

>>214417400
>with the Butterfly Effect title slapped on in hopes it would raise sales.
it's all so tiresome

>>214422686
https://youtu.be/qjYWOZgMbHQ?si=6VIK_UgJ9dm3vUqf

There were a bunch of vids debunking the documentary.
>there was a third perpetrator not mentioned in the doc
>the director didn't contact most of the victims and doesn't mention half the evidence
>the friedman claimed the victims used hypnosis to recall their abuse with no evidence

If they made this movie with more likable characters and them doing less degenerate shit, it would have been a masterpiece. The time traveling structure of weaving through different ages in their lives was really cool.

>>214421711
I shall always enjoy McGregor kino

>>214425949
Is pic related McGregor's best kino besides Trainspotting?

>>214426063
Haven't seen it. I liked him in Moulin Rouge. I also thought he was one of the better parts in the prequels, might be that he looked nearly identical to my father at the time.

>>214426130
Did your father do this to you?

>>214426225
Not to me, it was a coworker.

>>214426354
Rey Skywalker is that you? I thought you were pic related's daughter not Obi-Wan Kenobi's

i always wondered why critics shat on this one. sure it's dumb but also fun, basically like some of the better nolan flicks

>>214426565
forgot pic

>>214419428
>>214426588
>>214426664

>>214426492
Wasn't she sheev's daughter or was that a meme? I lost interest after TFA.

>>214426689
She was Sheev's adoptive grandaughter because her biological father Galen Marek replaced Darth Vader as his adoptive son between Episodes 6 and 7

>>214425492
Exactly, trying for the "life would be better if Id never been born" ending is bleak faggot shit. What's the point in watching a story about someone that decided and succeeds at not existing? I do think the ending they put in is better, but it's still kind of weak.

The part where the little 12 year old beats up a older kid is completely unbelievable

>>214426588
>>214426881
kino

butterfly effect had its moments
like when the prison gang takes away his notebook so he travels back in time to give himself stigmata's to convince his religious inmate to help him take down the gang and get his notebook back. that shit was pure adrenaline and cool fiction. ppl at the time kind of expected that to be the whole movie, but instead they got weird sob stories about le love or whatever. looking back at it, it was ok. could've been better

>>214426933
twist ending

>>214426979
This is a bit different in that the entire premise is he was supposed to kill his older self to begin with. Looper's time travel rules are insanely silly though, they're more magic based. The idea that killing yourself erases the future you from coming back.... even though the future room already came back and affected your memory having seen you come back.

Looper is just dumb.

>>214415546

Some of the best movies are time travel movies. I'd also recommend people watch 'Dark' on netflix. It's a fantastic show.

>>214415479 (OP)
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>>214427163
My favorite time travel movie

>>214415479 (OP)
i was in grade 8 when this cameout. no one hated it. everyone thoguht it was kino

>>214428604
one of the best

>>214427163
The only time time travel is ever good is when it isn't up it's own ass about rules and paradoxes, which automatically eliminates 95 percent of all time travel movies. Only autists believe otherwise.

>>214415479 (OP)
It really is a good movie, I'm glad people are finally starting to recognize this. I should emphasize this only applies to the theatrical cut though.

>>214427163
Dark was ok for one season, the later ones made the whole thing atrocious.

>>214421643
The lesson is to get therapy if you need it before getting into a serious relationship

>>214422447
This is sincerely the most idiotic thing I've read on 4chan, in a long time. I feel soulful pain. I hope that one day you are blessed with heart and mind.

It was based as ice

>>214415548
>too many villains!
>having multiple villains becomes almost standard

I'm glad someone recognized the fetus suicide is the dumbest shit ever.

>>214415566
I can understand the hate, it's not a good enough movie for the budget.

The real thing that has changed is that all these 7/10 movies are now being looked at in comparison not with their contemporaries, but compared to modern movies, which barely ever get above 2/10 gutter slop.

>>214429703
If I want a jacket (or pants) this obnoxious, what style am I searching for out there?

>>214415479 (OP)
STOP CRYING YOUR HEART OUT

>>214415566
The Postman

Ridley's best since 2001 (maybe because he didnt write it)

>>214421711
Who the fuck hates Big Fish?

>>214427121
You aren't supposed to take the time travel aspect in the movie seriously, its literally just a plot point to serve the rest of the story about redemption, consequences etc. This is even acknowledged in the movie itself, Bruce Willis shuts Levitt up by saying are they gonna spend an eternity arguing paradoxes related to time travel.

>>214431134
idk, I just know it was custom made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XKFx2-10-E

>>214415542
This was pretty funny. did people hated it?

>>214415479 (OP)
There are a few scenes that violate the time travel rules in some really egregious ways. The worst one is the stigmata scene, where he travels back in time and slams his hands on spikes as a kid and then as an adult the scars appear on his hands in real time to spook his attackers. That's simply not how the time travel works, and it brings down the movie a lot.

>>214415479 (OP)

Interesting as I don't recall anyone hating Kelso trying to be serious, my friends and I liked it. Then again being around 13 it was likely right in our wheelhouse. Watch it at least every couple of years and always holds up.

>pic rel my submission: come at me

Talk about relentless bashing for being a mainstream flick about faggot cowboys. Yes it was recognized by the industry, but that doesn't really mean shit. Superb film that gets bashed by people of all ages so insecure about themselves to even watch it before bashing it. I'd like to see them survive on a couple high altitude fucks a year

>>214432647
I like this one a lot.

>>214419119
>>214421606
There are multiple endings. One ending is that he lives but never met the girl as a child because she went to live with her mom, wasn't abused, grew up normal and they met as adults. Another ending was after he killed himself the mom got pregnant and had a girl, and she doesn't have the ability, so they live normally.

It has three endings I believe

Also Escape from LA, Halloween III

>>214415479 (OP)
Fucking A, I just watched this film. This was the Ashton transitions to a fed flick.Better than I remembered, but I was barely paying attention.

>>214426588
God this movie sucks so bad

>>214431060
>it's not a good enough movie for the budget
Oh no! Poor rich Hollywood producers! They wasted $100M making a movie when they could have just used $95M.