Thread 214445301

This is fun as fuck. Easily better than Secret of the Ooze
>those funny scenes with ancient japanese samurai in modern times

>>214445301 (OP)
>the film that killed the live action movies for several years
>fun
Fuck off.

>>214445301 (OP)
I liked 1 2 and 3. I think 1 is the best though. 2 felt the most like the cartoon. 3 felt like an experiment and I guess it failed financially but I remember enjoying it as a kid.

I still have the NES and SNES TMNT games and a collection of DVD of the TMNT cartoons I ripped off of VHS containing recordings of the show from back in the day. It still has the commercials complete with the toy commercials of the day.

I don't really care if any of it holds up. It's nice nostalgia to cheer me up now and then on bad days. I admittedly don't watch or play them very often. It can be years between the days I dust any of this off, but it always makes me smile when I do.

>bad movie is actually le hecking good
Peak Reddit Brainrot

>>214445301 (OP)
>HOCKEY! HOCKEY! HOCKEY!
lmfao

>>214445301 (OP)
>Kappa? Cappuccino? Nah thanks, makes me hyper
>no GAHBAGE, no BEEHA cans, just WATAH
funniest shit I ever saw

Give me at least 3 reasons why the Michael Bay films were bad. And no the turtles being “ugly” doesn’t count because mutated turtle freaks being ugly isn’t a flaw

>>214445729
The turtles were ugly

>>214445729
>they sound like niggers!
it never made sense why 4 teenagers raised in NYC would sound like surfers from California anyway. The complaints about the movie were arbitrary at best. Mecha shredder was sick

>>214445729
>Teenage Mutant Nigga Turtles

>>214445729
The turtles are ugly

>>214445860
wasn’t Raph the only one who was an obvious nig? Leo was fucking Jonny Knoxville lmao

>>214445856
They didn't interact with many NYC people directly, they just saw shit on TV (California)

>>214446016
this is my head cannon as to why the new one is literally just “dude pop culture references!!” I don’t think they ever outright say it though. Movie still sucked fucking ass though
>dude instead of jokes we name drop stuff

>>214445301 (OP)
Secret of the Ooze is a good satire of the real life commercialisation of the TMNT property. What the fuck is III even about?

>>214445301 (OP)
I haven't seen this one but I saw Secret of the Ooze. it's hard to top Vanilla Ice ninja rap.

>>214445729
>Give me at least 3 reasons why the Michael Bay films were bad.
1. The """humor""" sucked.
2. The Shredder + Krang were extremely disappointing.
3. Tonal whiplash that clashed with character alignment of the Turtles' portrayal (minus the elevator scene).

>>214447483
fair and valid

>>214445301 (OP)
I always found it kind of weird how much people disliked this movie. It's a fucking Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle film. What were you expecting? For it not to be silly?

>>214447612
For me it was the change of the turtle suits

>>214445975
Raph was played by Jack Reacher

>>214447612
I was like 7 when I first saw it and the historical period piece setting was boring to me. I’m sure it’s fine but I haven’t watched it in like 25 years

>>214447612
turns out little boys in the US of the 80s/90s don’t relate to feudal japan! Although I liked the 3 Ninjas movie where the went to Japan so who knows

Peter Laird ranking the ninja turtles movies:

>From best to worst, I would say:
>First live-action movie
>2007 CGI Imagi movie
>Third live-action movie ("Turtles in Time")
>Second live-action movie ("Secret of the Ooze")
>I don't think I can include the two recent Michael Bay-produced films in this comparison because I don't see the characters in them as representing what the TMNT should be. They're more like mini-Hulks with bandanas.

>>214447723
>>2007 CGI Imagi movie
Is this one actually good, then? It didn't look too impressive at the time.

>>214447723
pretty good list actually. Even as a kid I hated how much goofier and cartoony secret of the ooze was compared to the original. Thanks 1990s soccer moms!

>>214447732
it’s “fine”

>>214447732
>Is this one actually good, then? It didn't look too impressive at the time.
IMO it's the best TMNT movie. it's the one that's most similar to the original comics, except the story which is an original one

>>214447678
>turns out little boys in the US of the 80s/90s don’t relate to feudal japan!
It actually would have been a great setting/concept if it didn't have the budget of a Xena/Hercules TV show. Kids were 100% obsessed with samurais and ninjas and karate and everything Japan at the time.

If it had been half-serious like the first TMNT movie it would have been great, to have them visit the source of their martial arts power and maybe like meet Splinter's master's ancestor, instead of having everyone slip on banana peels while shouting one-liners.

>>214447732
I was 16 at the time when I saw it and grew up a huge turtle head partly thanks to my older brothers who lived through peak turtle mania. I was disappointed in the movie at the time but couldn’t exactly pinpoint why. Years later I realize it was because I thought the movie would recapture my childhood of watching the movies and playing with the toys with my brothers and what I was really disappointed in was the loss of my childhood

>>214447767
Couldn't agree more. And Mako as Splinter was a great pick. The plot was just okay though.

>>214447723
>ranking the third ahead of the second
brain rot

twice the dumb kids joke on a fraction of the budget

Only 3 can make me love and hate Elias Koteas at the same time.

>>214447807
>brain rot
I don't even like the third movie but it was not as bad as the second one

>>214447732
Incredibly meh villains and the story is Ralphwank, I don't think it's bad but definitely wasted potential.

>>214448084
It never fails to amuse me when autocorrect changes Raph to Ralph

>>214447995
It was everything bad about the second one, but worse.

In what ways was it not as bad?

>>214447732
>Is this one actually good, then? It didn't look too impressive at the time.
it's the one turtle movie that holds up and is actually good

>>214445301 (OP)
>Ninja Turtles travel in time
>no Renet
DROPPPPPPPPPPPPPED

>>214445301 (OP)
I even hated it as a kid

>>214445301 (OP)
As a kid I realized how cheap it looked. Plus I was mad we never got Krang

bump

>>214445729
The evil plan made no sense.
1. Shredder and his no.2's were already in charge of the wealthiest corporation on the planet and their plan was to poison everyone and hold them for ransom to give their company more money. Also the poison only affects that city so what even is the point?

Shredder's mech suit alone would have been worth billions to the military if they were hurting for cash. The damn thing can fire powerful projectiles and recall them, meaning you have infinite ammo.

They were the ones who created the turtles, meaning they discovered how to make sentient life. The whole world would have worshipped them without them having to show a display of force.

2. The jokes were that great. I laughed once or twice with the first movie and not at all during the second one.

3. Part 2 has a crap story that is completely forgettable.

4. The way they explained evolution is the second one made no sense and it was the driving force behind the bad guy's motives.

The main problem with the movie is the turtle suits are cheap and the villain is boring. Should have feudal shredder type villain.
There's some things it does better than secret of the ooze
>turtles actually use their weapons again
>tries to have emotional moments with the Japanese kid they befriend and have to leave
>brings back Casey jones

>>214445729
1. The movies had nothing to do with the Ninja Turtles; it was "The Megan Fox Show" with the Ninja Turtles as guest stars
2. The Ninja Turtles didn't act like themselves in the slightest; why is Mikey perving on April?
3. I mean, the whole thing just seems like a weird ass fever dream of a thirteen year old kid mashing his toys together while having lewd thoughts about the latest bimbo he saw on TV thrown in. That's kinda cool on paper and the fact that they got Michael Bay on board is pretty cool too, but the execution ended up being just a big ol' bucket of ass. I don't even remember anything about any of them in the slightest. It just felt like a CGI puke fest and I don't find those to be appealing whatsoever.

>>214445856
Because it was the 80s and the surfer culture was popular with kids.
Also most of that stuff comes from the cartoon. In the early turtles comics they were a lot more straight-forward because the whole joke was that they were treating teenage mutant ninja turtles seriously, despite the inherent absurdity of the premise.
Just call it a product of the times.

>>214445729
Hulk Turtles, Megatron Shredder, no Hamato Yoshi connection, fucking Splinter teaching them kungfu from the book he found, jobber Karai, Foot clan with guns etc. Never watched the second one aside from trailer.

>>214447807
>>214448169
It took itself seriously for once. And the turtles actually used their weapons in battle.

>>214445301 (OP)
>Easily better than Secret of the Ooze

I agree. Its nowhere nears as good as the first obvs but I do enjoy it more than 2 and the 07 animated movie.

Concept art for the unproduced TMNT 4 live-action film - including a very busty "Evil April"

Concept art for a different unproduced live-action project from the early 00s - would have been made by Hallmark.

>>214445729
Meg didn't get naked.

>>214445301 (OP)
I was 2003-fag back in the day still am and the movie's plot reminded me of cartoon's time sceptre arc a little so i had no choice but to like it.

>>214447732
It's dynamic and fun. Mostly good characterisations, great animation, the plot is whatever.

>>214452387
I used to have a huge crush on TMNT 2/3 April

>>214447612
Because the plot is dumb time travel shit and the animatronics look like ass.

>>214445729
I didn't like the first one, but the second film was much more enjoyable. Replace the models with better ones and you'll have a funny adaption.

I absolutely loved the elevator scene though. I hate that the 2K12 TV series acted all smug about it. 2K12 in general had this smugness vibe to it. I think the writers that took after Season 1 had this holier than thouh attitude as if their interpretation of Turtles was better than the those before it or after.

>>214445729
The turtles were ugly. Also the movie was retarded

>>214454166
>I didn't like the first one, but the second film was much more enjoyable.
Now this* is a crazy take. I've never seen anyone say they like the second one at all, much less ranking it above the first one. Part of me is still not buying it

>>214447732
It wasn't good. It was mainly a Raph movie with Leo in a support role. Donnie and Mikey were basically non-existent. Being Raph focused isn't really a problem, its just that his and Leo story feel small and unresolved because the film suddenly remembered "oops, we have a completely disconnected main story antagonist and we gotta wrap this shit up in the next 30 minutes!"

It's also a very dry movie. It's not really funny or entertaining, it's visually pretty bland even by 2007 standards, the musical score is forgettable, and the fight scenes outside of Leo and Raph are pretty awful. It's a CG animated movie and they couldn't come up with some cool choreography? The fight with the giant hamster looking thing in the construction site was boring visually and the final fight against the Stone Warriors might as well be a blur. There was an interesting premise here with having two broken families (The TMNT and the Immortals), but neither side is fully developed and tge whole project just feels like a waste of time. The only good thing that came out of this movie was Leo vs Raph. The lead up to it and the fight feels like a completely different project. Good lighting, fantastic fight, the music finally picks up, character arcs being fully realized. It's just good. And its only about 6 minutes long in a 90 minute movie. Fuck!

>>214454166
>I absolutely loved the elevator scene though. I hate that the 2K12 TV series acted all smug about it. 2K12 in general had this smugness vibe to it. I think the writers that took after Season 1 had this holier than thouh attitude as if their interpretation of Turtles was better than the those before it or after.
Really? Tell me more. The idea of anyone being a smug prick while associated with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is very intriguing.
I never saw 2k12, or much of the franchise

>>214445301 (OP)
>Turtles in Time
James Rolfe told me that Turtles in Time was the name of the video game which has nothing to do with this movie, and that people only mistakenly call the third movie "Turtles in Time."

>>214454724
>take
Why you gotta speak like a fag man

I didn't like 1. It was too serious in its story telling but it didn't feel sincere. It just ultimately comes off as a bland film with its only high point being the avalanche scene (and even that ended up dragging), Mecha Shredder and elevator scene. The rest of the film falls flat.

2 is almost as bad, but its at least entertaining in a retarded way. Everything is over the top, with absolutely ridiculous performances from the whole cast. The biggest negative I can give it is the God awful casting and what the absolute raping they did to Casey Jones as a character. With how stupid the rest of the movie is, they decided to make Casey the straight man? What the fuck.

>>214455016
Fuck that nigga. Single handedly ruined TMNT Nes reputation. That game is not a bad video game.

>>214455065
The only good thing about 2 is Bebop and Rocksteady and even that is short lived. The movie is somehow wacky and boring at the same time and by the time Krang starts doing anything important you hardly care anymore. Casey Jones is the straight man because Amell can't act.

>>214445308
Were you expecting the Addams family?!

>>214445301 (OP)
1 > 3 > 2

>>214454166
>I think the writers that took after Season 1 had this holier than thouh attitude as if their interpretation of Turtles was better than the those before it or after
Same for CGI Clone Wars, coincidentally both TMNT and CW previous projects released in 2003.

>>214454934
This seems unnecessarily harsh.

>>214455859
>Same for CGI Clone Wars
lol wut?! There's nothing smug about CGI clone wars. And it was made by the creator of the franchise, unlike 2012 tmnt. 2k3 tmnt had Peter laird's involvement.

>>214448363
>travel to Japan land
>no Usagi Yojimbo

dropped

>>214451849
>It took itself seriously for once
>>214452387
>SCHWING

>>214456269
How was it harsh? For a TMNT movie, it was severely lacking in TMNT. Its problems weren't exclusive to just that movie. Astro Boy was a big miss as well. That studio just did not have the capability of producing a compelling film or hiring good script writers. Just look at all the crap Kevin Munroe worked on before and after TMNT. Thank God he didn't touch Gatchaman.

>>214456422
2003 was good but I felt like TMNT had a major downward slump after the hype for it ran out mainly because of Laird. That guy just had an absolute hatred towards anything 87 and would do anything to down play it. Turtles Forever was an absolute mockery. I can understand not liking the basterdized version of your creation, but at the very least you could adopt the most popular elements and adapt them into your style instead of outright ignoring it. It just seemed petty and the refusal to use elements from one of the most recognizable versions just limited its reach. Turtles right now is a merchandise juggernaut thanks to Nick recognizing 87 hard. Even if Mutant Mayhem was a dud, the 87 content is keeping that IP alive. Then you have Eastman with Last Ronin expanding the property even further. Yeah, that guy had some shit ideas, but at least he's more open than Laird was.

Still, nothing is as offensive as what 2K12 did to 87. Holy shit, that cross over sucked.

>>214454166
>2K12 in general had this smugness vibe to it.
Can you elaborate on this? I haven't seen the 2012 one but I heard it was pretty well-regarded at the time.

>>214449919
God I wanna see the fugly realistic mutants from the Bay movies gangbang the original animated series April.

>>214445301 (OP)
I have memory holed this movie and it seems that is a good thing.

>>214445301 (OP)
I saw this in the theaters with my friends (no parents) and we collectively all decided to be too old for that shit and snuck into a movie for teenagers.

>>214445301 (OP)
>>214456458
TMNT 3 should have been a crossover with Usagi Yojimbo

>>214457442
This. Some of my fave crossovers were Usagi/TMNT ones.

>>214456422
>There's nothing smug about CGI clone wars
I found Asoka Poochie-tier obnoxious and forced not to mention how her inclusion led to Shaak Ti getting demoted to extra after being actually notable character in Genndy's CW but that's just me probably.

>>214445729
I absolutely remember nothing from those movies

>>214457442
Getting beat up by a man bun the movie. lol.

>>214456876
>It just seemed petty and the refusal to use elements from one of the most recognizable versions just limited its reach.
2003 was more creative and expansive than 87 by a mile. I don't think lack of reach was ever a problem with it.

>>214445706
More like
MOLEY MOLEY MOLEY

Why are they covered in moles?

>>214457030
Should be pretty easy with AI

>>214457579
This.
They Marvel-ized the Ninja Turtles.
I don't remember anything from any fucking Marvel movies either because they're just CGI barf bags

I always thought Usagi was a TMNT creation. I fucking loved Usagi.

Then I found out the damn rabbit had his own god damn side stories. My mind was blown.

>>214445301 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya7k_xsFBGM
Does anyone else remember when the Turtles came to LA in the early 90s to promote the opening of the metro blue line?

>>214458376
Mikey bros?!