Thread 214485768

Director Terry Gilliam will shoot a new comedy The Carnival at the End of Days. One of the main roles in it will be played by Johnny Depp - he got the character of Satan, who intends to save humanity from destruction by God, because without people he will be bored

According to Gilliam, the main roles in his new project were received by Johnny Depp and Jeff Bridges, known for the film "The Big Lebowski". Bridges will play God in the film, who is disappointed in humanity and decides to destroy it, and Depp - Satan, who, on the contrary, intends to save people, because without them he will be bored. "Because he needs people in hell, otherwise he will no longer have work for the near eternity!" - said Gilliam.

Because taking other stories and changing bits or reimagining parts or flipping them on their head is the basis of most storytelling and the Bible is the most well known story on the planet.

>>214485768 (OP)
Subversion of expectation is the basis of all humor.

>not seeing the bigger picture

it's all abrahamic nonsense. left vs right. both are jewish constructs

>The film will be released +- in 2027-2028
>Shortly before the 2000th anniversary of Jesus' resurrection and promise to return
>The Carnival at the End of Days
What do they want to say?

>>214485768 (OP)
>Why are "they" making satan a good guy in a.... comedy film!!!!
go outside

>Johnny Depp bought several paintings of the famous serial killer John Wayne Gacy (Killer Clown)
>Johnny Depp sought a meeting with Charles Manson
>Johnny Depp, a longtime supporter of the West Memphis Three and personal friend of Damien Echols
>Johnny Depp is Marilyn Manson's best friend

>>214485866
>Johnny Depp is Marilyn Manson's best friend

I thought he was Doug Stanhopes best friend?

>>214485768 (OP)
Killing all of humanity because he’s disappointed with them happens in the very first book of the Bible and the final book is a prophecy that he’ll do it again some day but permanently this time
Also God is too unknowable to use as a protagonist and remixing stories is as old as dirt so if you’re remixing biblical stories Satan is one of the most obvious choices
He’s also more relatable because of his flaws

>>214485768 (OP)
>Johnny Depp playing Satan
I am pretty sure I heard this plot before when I was reading edgy novels in my teens.

>>214485768 (OP)
Satan is the true ruler of this world.

Protip: Jewsus, Yahweh, Satan, Saturn is the same being.

>>214485768 (OP)
It's fucking Terry Gilliam man, chill out. Poltards needs to be executed on sight seriously.

Atheists usually write novels with this plot. THey say everyone in the afterlife would be bored because its a long time with nothing to do; forgetting that there is no such thing as time because eternity has no limits. God does not feel time and therefore does not get bored. Humanity's salvation is already preordained through the sacrifice of Jesus. Why would God change his mind if he sees the scope of the future?

>>214486328
what the fuck is this thing?

>>214487525
an anglo

>>214485768 (OP)
Sounds funny

Take a deep breathe and try unrustling your jimmies, /pol/weenie.

you keep calling us schizo while they laugh in your face.
maybe one day you'll rethink things!

>>214487709
Muslims worship the same God that Abraham did.

>>214487709
Muslims worship their own god named Allah, and he is punishing both palestinians and all iranian proxies because he got tired of their shit.

>>214487504
Heheheheheh, its a pretty cool concept, tha can explore ojr beliefa hipocrasies and how are we as humans being and what is the reason to justify our existence

There's been a systematic attack on christianity from the past 30-50 years
Making Satan "good" is just another layer on the cake

>>214485768 (OP)
BECAUSE he gave you freedom and free will

>>214485768 (OP)
Depictions of Satan as a sympathetic and complex figure date back to Romanticism at least.

>>214485791
But le reddit atheist edginess is expected everywhere now

>>214485768 (OP)
quick question, which one killed more people, god or satan?

>>214485782
>adam driver
DROPPED

take your schizo meds retard

Satan isn't evil per se; he's just rebelling against God's authority. Have you actually read the Old Testament? God is a fscking psycho. The wholesale baby-animal slaughter rules in Leviticus, all by itself, is enough to confirm that. Not to mention how God "hardened the Pharaoh's heart", leading to the destruction of Egypt. Or how he killed Aaron's sons in Leviticus 10 for burning incense in the tabernacle, then in Leviticus 16 that was totally OK. I could go on. The God of our world is insane. The Gnostic explanation always rang true for me.

>>214487709
Don't care. It's all abrahamic judeo nonsense that set back humanity.

>>214485768 (OP)
Holy shit cool it with the antisemitism oh my god

Not getting into OP's retarded question that's been already explained by others in this thread, I do wonder how Satan is supposed to be the bad guy. If we are to believe the serpent in the garden was him, he's nothing but someone who tells the truth while god deceives and obstructs. He's not real of course, but in the story that Jews worship he's morally right.

>>214485768 (OP)
Thought this was Alien Earth

>>214488874
loser

How did a culture of 20 something year old men become pearl clutching soccer moms? Do you think moot could have possibly imagined that this would be the fate of his loli hentai forum?

>>214487504
>muh killing
typical libtard

reminder: Venus, the morning star, the bringer of light, almost overnight went from the goddess of love and fertility to the great deciever, the lord of lies.

>>214487504
you would think that after kirk's murder you guys would ease up on the violent rhetoric for little bit, but you're actually doubling down, which I appreciate.

>>214488948
social media has programmed all young people to be obsessed with image and groupthink

Terry Gilliam kino is back on the menu boys

>>214485866
Johnny Depp is also a confirmed domestic abuser.

>>214488874
this so much this fellow pagan

Satan isn't even a negative thing in the Bible. So should we change the meaning of things because of middle age headcanon?

>>214485782
Uh why are Adam and Eve not beautiful BIPoC? I'm sick of these fucking inaccuracies and how wyt people try to appropriate everything!? At least they got the devil (a straight wyt male) right!

>>214489270
yaaaaas

>>214489206
every big name in hollywood has blood / rape / drugabuse / whatever on their hands.
you get blackmailed into situations and have to keep your mouth shut or you get accidentaly an herod.

>>214489270
Why do people fight over Asian religion? That's cringe, bro.

>>214485768 (OP)
Because they are Jewish.

>>214488841
Funny how 4chan "christians" ignore this post.

>>214485768 (OP)
The Ancient Gnostic Christians thought Satan was a good guy and Yahweh was an evil piece of shit. It's nothing new at all and it comes from a different reading of the Bible.

>>214488874
ancient rome was a trust based society, destroyed by bad actors exploiting trust that weren't killed quickly enough. the next successful civilizations would be guilt based, where people would exert huge amounts of effort in repentance in hopes of assuaging their guilt. at some point this shifts to shame-based society, where people have no hope of being relieved of guilt, and do nothing, and the civilization trends towards either collapse or horror.

>>214489231
>>214488943
>NOOOO YOU SHOULD BE WORSHIPING JEWS

I don't think I will.

>>214487359
>They are unable to see
>but christians still believe in le free will

rev 3:9

>>214490054
Does the bible even say something about actual free will?

>>214490054
It's funny because you have other verses where jewgod is the one doing the blinding and misunderstanding

>>214490171
Yes. It explicitly denies free will exists in Romans 9 11-23

>>214490250
please give details on the exact mental gymnastics routine necessary to look at a passage that says "god decides everything" and makes that into a definition of free will

how many times have they tried to make the golden compass a thing when it’s simply not appealing

>>214485768 (OP)
I'm all for a Gilliam shitpost but the movie will look like shit because everything is overgraded these days.

>>214489270
Adam and Eve were before the tower of babel, in which God punished man by making everyone speak different tongues and have different skins. Before that I assume everyone looked like south American supermodels.

>>214488993
Didn't you notice how cruel and manipulative women are? These two views are not incompatibel in any way.

>>214488993
it’s all retarded astrology

>>214489640
Probably because the OT cunt God calmed the fuck down like 2000 years ago

>>214489640
Most Christians I meet are extremely irritated at how I know their Bible better than they do. I rarely get to the point where I inform them I lost my faith after actually reading the Bible cover to cover in my youth.
>>214489795
Marcion of Sinope is the name of the guy who put together the first version of the Christian bible, from separate books that were circulating at the time. He was a proto-Christian, but he was also a Gnostic, and deliberately set out to portray the Old Testament God as the Demiurge.

>>214485797
Ahh yes that's why Jews spit on Christians, co opt the Bible/ old testament even though they weren't a part of the 12 tribes, and say Jesus is boiling in a vat of excrement

>>214485768 (OP)
It's not Satan as pop culture portrays him. They worship the demiurge and his archons. They make things shittier on purpose because the archons feed off on that negative energy. One could argue these elites cheat the cycle of reincarnation with their service, by being reborn in the same family over and over.

>>214487359
I wish you would actually do research before you post this shit. You're taking it out of context. In this letter to the church at Corinth, St. Paul is explaining to the congregation that Satan is indeed the ruler of this fallen world and has tricked non-believers, i.e. (You), into believing he's not real or multiple other beings he's not. It's a warning to believers to not be like them. God is only God, not Satan, and He is God of all.

>>214491798
Doesn't Premillenialism hold that we're living in the age of the Tribulations? Hard to discount the idea, given the world we live in.

>>214485768 (OP)
>One of the main roles in it will be played by Johnny Depp
>he got the character of Satan
Satan Wonka?

Sounds like a good movie.

>>214485768 (OP)
kek finally a movie I want to watch. had to be something like this.

>>214487359
>>214491798
>the god of this world
"The god of this age" is a better translation, but it doesn't really matter.

>>214485784
N...no you can't say that!!!

>>214489315
but Herod tried to kill baby Jesus

>>214485768 (OP)
Because satan isnt real

>>214485768 (OP)
>They
You mean the British?

>>214485782
Adam Driver is adamantly ugly.

>>214485768 (OP)
It's literally all Milton's fault.

>>214493745
But Adam Driver is adamantly ugly.

>>214487504
i didn't know he was still making movies to be honest
his quixote flick was a complete utter failure

>>214493804
But Adam Driver ...

>>214493745
It's funny that the same people who simp after Milton's Satan (Alan Moore himself for one) are the same people who get upset that people like Rorschach.

>>214494076
Alan Moore is not nearly as pissy about it as you think, he's just a shit talking warlock

>>214485768 (OP)
Cause it pisses you off lol

>>214485768 (OP)
Satan isn’t real.

>>214485768 (OP)
Something just fundamentally does not make sense about God's official story.

The official narrative just does not match up with what lots of people actually experience in their life.

I don't know whether Satan is secretly the good guy or whether God is secretly the bad guy, I just know something doesn't add up, somebody is fucking lying.

>>214494196
Alan Moore is very pissy.

>>214494417
Well okay yeah he's pissy but I don't take any of his piss all that seriously

>>214485768 (OP)
Ppl prefer joker to bat's too. It's hip to bash god

>>214485768 (OP)
Tired boomer tripe.

>>214485768 (OP)
Satan is unironically the good guy. He gave us knowledge and killed like 2 people or something, God killed the entire earth and the madman wants to do it again at some point, just complete lunacy. I hope humanity turns to Satan before it's too late.

>>214489089
got tired of enduring the violent actions of the right I suppose

>>214494373
Satan is OPENLY the good guy in the Bible, they just say he isn't because saying otherwise means it is right to disobey God. But they never explain why it's not right to resist a tyrant that asks for complete obedience and devotion under threat of eternal damnation. It's not love, it's coercion and blackmail, and not a single person in my entire life has ever been able to explain why it was good for you or me to submit to it.

>>214494446
>>214494417
>>214494196
>>214494076
Alan Troon is something worse

>>214485782
Asa is a dumb name

>>214485768 (OP)
They don't believe that the rest of humanity is human so it doesn't matter what they do to them or make them believe.

>>214487359
Jesus = Monad
Satan = Yahweh.
Old Testament is the book of Satan.

>>214487359
based Gnostic truthteller

>>214485768 (OP)
Anime influence
Demon lords are always secretly good guys or sexy women

Without even reading all of OP and knowing what this is about I assume the creator is a young trans person

>>214495432
Little retard thinks he's free.
You're more bound than a bitch tied to train tracks.

>>214485768 (OP)
I’m always astounded by the propensity of talented directors/artists with solid careers and great technical skill having the most retarded, edgy and juvenile beliefs. How is this level of cognitive dissonance even possible in adults? I see it all the time with regular people who vehemently hate God or become atheists because something bad has happened to them and they can’t handle any adversity but how does an idea so fucking dumb get so many movies about it? Also he pretty much already made this exact movie when he did Dr Parnassus

>>214496346
why do you think it's good to not be free?

>>214485768 (OP)
Americans need to chill out with the perpetual Satanic Panic, this is not First World behavior. It's very African or Latino of you guys to constantly be chimping out over "SATAN!!!!"

>>214496866
Yeah, at the same time the very same people are giving money to a blasphemeous "God Emperor" who puts his name and face on bibles. They also regularly upload AI paintings of Trump as Jesus.

>>214496293
This, except the demiurge is not the accuser. Nor is the Lightbringer either of them, just as he is not the Christ

The Christ, Lucifer, Satan and Yaldabaoth are all seperate beings.

>>214495432
No he’s absolutely not. The “freedom” he promises is another trap. Sophia is the only virtue.

>>214497446
Wisdom without knowledge is only dogma. Lucifer is the light/knowledge (lux or lucis) carrier (ferre).

>>214498293
>>214497446
>>214497412
why don't you gnostic guys ever quote sources or anything? the nag hammadi stuff is all in english for free on the web, so there's nothing stopping you

>satan is lucifer
>no, lucifer is jesus
>NUH UH
>YUH HUH
>sophia ist mein waifu
>tfw no pleroma

it's like reading /dbs/ except everyone is serious

>>214485768 (OP)
Its a revolutionary thing. Its not just "them". In John Milton's Paradise Lost Satan is the revolutionary hero.

>>214499539
Lucifer is an early christian name for Jesus because it means "lightbearer", light in this context meaning the light of God's love. It was a christian name for a long time, there was a monk named Lucifer in the 4th century and his followers were called Luciferians the same way followers of Marx are called marxists. The name only got perverted later.

>>214499795
that's nice but
>why don't you gnostic guys ever quote sources or anything?

Why are they all obsessed with Pizza?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1GP-MA8L_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng5w5581Wro

i have schizo fatigue

>>214499985
Then you're in the wrong place.

>>214499881
ho sure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_of_Cagliari

>>214499795
St. Lucifer of Cagliari. He was important in the opposition to the heresy of Arianism.

Hope Gilliam can pull some of his old magic out of a hat. Depp might afford a bigger budget.

>>214487709
>Church of Satan founded by Anton Szandor LaVey (born Howard Stanton Levey
lol nice retard
>>214488079
allah is the arabic word for god was used by christian before.

>>214485768 (OP)
>played by Johnny Depp - he got the character of Satan,
but the maga incel grifter told me depp was based?

>>214501469
The so-called Church Of Satan was merely the world's quirkiest sex club. What Aleister Crowley was involved with is far closer to true Satanism than anything else. And he wasn't a bad guy; he was just seeking power beyond this world, and had some impressive achievements.
https://rawilsonfans.org/the-great-beast-aleister-crowley/

>>214486328
from twink to chud, how tragic
>>214485768 (OP)
just another heretical blasphemy filled jew movie, I wont be watching it

>>214485768 (OP)
>because without people he will be bored
yeah, i bet these Hollywood faggots really think that lol

>>214486328
>the cute kid from hugo looks like a serial rapist nowadays
grim
i'll always like him, since hes a fellow dotard, people found hes reddit account and he was talking about DOTA2 all the time, fellow /d2g/ autist

>>214485768 (OP)
Because they’re satanists. Lots of copium itt, btw.

>>214485782
>tom waits
>adam driver
>jason momoa
>the deppgoblin
We’re looking at one of the worst films ever made. Don’t care if it was Alfred Hitchcock, that cast is brutality. Only thing missing is shia.

Kikes are evil degenerate satanic scum its that simple

>>214485768 (OP)
>Johnny Depp
Based, will watch.

it's not called the synagogue of satan for no reason

>>214485768 (OP)

Which should I choose? Watch old movies where a bunch of guys kill Vampires or Werewolves in brutal ways or watch a new movie saying we must worship the god of Hollywood? Also OP, your friends in Israel committing genocide are closer to the Satanic monsters or demons or whatever that you detest and accuse others of being.

>>214502615

I think that Satan finds it amusing that some guy gets STDs because he was drunk and partying and having sex.

>>214485768 (OP)
It's a qlippha, you wouldn't get it. Atum, the hermaphroditic Demiurge

>>214488841
The Tradition of the Elders so-called, stone idols, Cain making a sacrifice of the Nations--

>>214502683

Oddly enough, modern day Israel combines both of these Satanic ideologies.

>>214485768 (OP)
When you aren't a Christian, then you view the events of the bible (especially the old testament) as God being an inept cunt who holds petty grudges against people with infinitely less power than him, who like playing games with human lives like they were toys and creating suffering, and creating unecessary rules that are nonsense (not the 10 commandments, go read leviticus and see how many of god's laws you ACTUALLY follow; wearing 2 different fabrics in one outfit? you better believe that's a sin)

in that context it makes god look like the villain, a sociopathic monster with no empathy who will even go as a far as to make a bet with satan to punish god's most loyal follower (Job) to prove a point, and will turn a woman to salt for having the GALL to look back at her city being destroyed but has no problems at all with that womans daughters getting their father blackout drunk so they can rape him to get pregnant with incest babies.

the bible is an unhinged mess, and so any deity that created it must be the same, therefore the enemy of that deity might not be as bad as the supposedly """good""" god tells us

>>214496303
hurr durr

>>214502683
Buy Satan's Pride shirts!

>>214504089
who knew the warrior god of israel could be such a jerk anyways? i wonder what kind of sickos even came up with the character

Isaiah 45:7
>I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

>>214496303
Not lizards with alien-craft?

>>214504089
You need to view the Bible as a kind of progressive expansion of human consciousness and morality from the particular to the universal. The OT God has to be that way because he's initially a pagan thunder deity. By moving from a genetic paganism into the One, the Bible outlines a path of redemption for all people.

>>214485768 (OP)
Because if you actually read the Bible, you can only come away with the conclusion that God is a terribly evil thing.
Satan rebelled against God. The enemy of my enemy...
This is ELI5 level shit, anon.

From a certain point of view, it's the Jedi who are evil.

>>214504268
but to me that defeats the purpose of the book's existence and identity: it's primary reason for being so popular is that it is allegedly the words of the demiurge and what the creator dictates we should do and how we should act, so accepting that human hands wrote it and fucked it up means that it might as well be worthless, because at that point we can't trust ANYTHING in there, and what's to stop the whole thing being just a bunch of stories made by people who were so stupid that they made eating shellfish a sin because they were too dumb to know how to cook it properly?

but yet all the laws and rules for the religion are ONLY found within this book; so if you think the book is a load of malarkey, then how can you have faith in the religion, when it's entirely typified by the book?

>>214491592
shhhh stop noticing

>>214504246
theyre simply the seed of the serpent and we are currently in satans little season in revelation, and the end of the 7th week in Enoch's prophecy of weeks.

>>214504226
It was never easier to attract people to anti-satanic beliefs than these days

atheists also support troons mostly so , again, nice job

most known scientists too

like , it is literally life on Easiest mode or on drooling retard mode (and I doubt people who Actually droole in real life because of their damaged body would also disagree with me if given enough time to process what I am writing here about, true dawn of completely ableism-free Retard word)

>>214504089

Plenty of stories outside the Bible where the few people who survive a major cataclysm have to resort to incest to repopulate the world or their portion of the world.

>>214504831
What the hell are you even trying to say