Thread 214633841

>>214633841 (OP)
It’s very bizarre after buying Star Wars and Marvel in a little over a decade they are right back where they were. They put Tron Legacy and John Carter out to try and appeal to the male audience. And now here comes another Tron movie.

>>214633841 (OP)
the first few books are public domain anyone can make a true sword and planet adaptation now

>>214633841 (OP)
Disney is a lame company that makes kid cartoons and crap for 5 year old girls, of course they killed Star Wars.
Capeshit on the other hand will never be good.

>>214634026
Hmmm, I wonder why???

>>214634120
This all the talent left over a decade ago for other studios mainly Sony DreamWorks and splintered off into various indie circuits like a24 and neon

>>214634120
Yeah Disney products were always too juvenile and safe, so DIsney taking over basically all media like it's done over the past few decades just meant all movies/tv shows would become boring little girl friendly slop.

The only exception I can think of when Disney actually made a decent edgy adventure film is the first PotC.

a winning hand of pixar, star wars, Indiana Jones, the MCU and they figured out how to piss it all away.

>>214634026
Just look at his face. He knew what he did.

>>214634120
>Capeshit on the other hand will never be good.

>>214634150
Talent? Even at their best they wouldn't have done anything good.
Disney makes Mickey Mouse crap, they were never a good pick for Star Wars.
If they weren't woke they would have still turned it all into cartoons and kid shit like Skeleton Crew. and Baby Yoda.

>>214634168
>and they figured out how to piss it all away.
>He still doesn't see it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf2bRcSIUsE

>>214633841 (OP)
>deja wasn't red and didnt have her tits out like in the books
no thanks bruh

>>214633841 (OP)
I wasn't raised on Disney products, and as an adult male the Disney brand is a negative
It's a studio for women and children that bought other studios to expand their demographics
For a bit they had people fooled with Marvel, but as time went on Disney's influence became too great to ignore

They wanted to force boys to share their toys with the girls, and men just let them keep the toys.

>>214634255
>For a bit they had people fooled with Marvel
lel

>>214634208
MCU was building itself before Disney bought it. They bought the talent behind Iron Man, Iron Man 2 was already in production. Avi Arad was behind it all. He pretty much saved Marvel from going bankrupt. Rob Pearlman actually owned Marvel through a shell company and Arad bought it when it went bankrupt in ‘97

>>214634267
i wonder what they had to do to rope the russo's back in
there's nothing for them to work with

>>214634443
They blew ever chance they recieved outside of being MCU action figure play-pen stage managers.

>>214634208
The obvious difference between Star Wars and Disney Wars- Name an injury someone sustains in Disney Wars.
Now name the injuries in Star Wars.
You remember fucking events in Star Wars, Disney wars doesn't fucking do anything to its characters.
I'm highlighting this emblematically- it's not a problem to be solved by just cutting a dude's arms off.

>>214633841 (OP)

WTF I watched this movie yesterday and today Taylor Ktisch was on Joe Rogan, now I see this on /tv/?

what the hell is going man?

>>214634527
nothing anon
more than one person knows who Taylor kitsch is

>>214633841 (OP)
Do they really think it'll be easier and faster to pull a whole new franchise out of their asses rather than just put some time and effort into Star Wars and Marvel's image?

>>214633841 (OP)
Kids love Deadpool. Make more movies like that.
Or just get George Lucas back in the helm since all he shits out is gold.

>>214634673
Well what can be done to Star Wars to make twelve year old nerds give a fuck?
Add titties, swearing, blood and weird powers like those anime they're watching?
Well it's Star Wars so it has to only use the exact same shit that it had in the 80s forever. New ideas are not an option.

>>214634673
Star Wars and Marvel are fucking dead. Disney is dead.

>>214634526
I remember prequlshit being already bad way before disney made it worse

>>214634717
>Disney is dead.

Literally just make a movie about harem isekai with an edgy protagonist on a revenge quest

>>214634726
Fuck off back to RLM, retard.

>>214634673
Birthing a baby isn't easy, but it's definitely easire than resurrection

>>214634443
have you heard about their work after endgame

There's too many women and faggots in every layer of that company to appeal to men now. Even if they tried their inherent hatred of masculinity would sabotage their efforts. The cancer is terminal.

>>214634739
Stay quiet, prequeltard.
Nobody ever liked that shit

>>214634673
https://www.ign.com/articles/marvel-introduces-david-colton-the-forgotten-post-911-captain-america

>>214634753
George did. Commence the seethe, pseud contrarian.

>>214634746
Oh brother...

>>214634769
George made excuses for it and then sold it, because nobody liked that shit, nostalgiatard
you started to believe in your own shitty meme

>>214633841 (OP)
Maybe they shouldn't have fucked up their male-centric franchises to begin with.

>>214634026
Pretty shit effort considering there's no fucking princess in that movie and the main theme is Flynn's relationship with his son.
By princess did they mean Quorra? Becauce that character is flatter than Miranda Cosgrove's chest.

>>214634753
>Nobody ever liked that shit
Rlmoids and Mickey Stoklasa lost. Go rewatch some Acolyte to calm yourself down.

>>214634168
>Pixar
Legit not a good movie since Up (2009), only decent-ish efforts since then were Toy Story 3 (2010) and Coco (2017) and since 2018 the whole thing has been one debacle after the other.

>>214634795
He sold it because his vision was complete. The story of the cosmic and personal force was told. It wasn't his choice for Disney to desecrate what remained to be woven into a continuity or storyarc.

>>214634843
You still think they invented it and wasn't universal mockery since day one uh?

>>214634861
His vision was compelte after the OT, the went ful Ridley Scott. Or Ridley Scott went full Lucas.... same thing

you don't have to defend shitty movies nobody likes just because it hurts you 6 yo ego. You aren't that 6 yo shitliker anymore.

>>214634861
>Retconned lore porn

>>214634901
>contrarian drivel intensifies

>>214634861
if he just had the balls to make the force an expendable resource the franchise would have life and every single retarded construction project by the empire would make a lot more sense if they had to import barrels of force sludge to power the bitch

>>214634026
>They put Tron Legacy and John Carter out to try and appeal to the male audience.
Don't think they tried hard enough. If Dejah Thoris would wear her canonical outfit in the Disney show, you would get far more teenager and young man audience for the show. Disney still fails to understand that if you want the boy and teen boy audience in some areas you have to play little less safe and stop worrying about pleasing everyone.

They need Touchstone Pictures again so they can make edgy shit without worrying about the Disney brand

>>214634168
Do zoomers even care about anything than you can't make tiktok edits out of?

>>214634881
Yes, RLM is paid Disney channel astroturfed to create false consensus to pressure Lucas to sell off his IP.
So far they damage controlled for every single Disney Wars entry.

>>214634973
Indeed.

>>214634942
>snydertard-like school of posting a dogshit movie nobody likes to prove that it's somehow secretly good

>>214634973
Sure buddy. Those shit movies didn't actually came out years before those shitty eceleb even existed, only to be hated by the audience.
Nostalgiatard

>>214635022
>being a Lucas-enjoyer
>snyder-like
Alright, we can disagree, but don't stoop that low.

>>214635043
>Those shit movies didn't actually came out years before
And and they were universally liked, as demonstrated by breaking all box office records from its rerelease.
>shitty eceleb even existed
Yes, and they were created years later, the exact year Disney started negotiations with George Lucas. Curious. They even suggested JJ Abrams as someone who should make new Star Wars. What an incredibly lucky coincidence!

>>214635113
>things that never happened
>boogeyman
Nobody liked that shit

>>214635151
>Nobody liked that shit
See
>>214634843

>>214633841 (OP)
It's crazy that they blundered so badly with Star Wars. Even the few good things went to shit. The only hope for that franchise now is Ryan Gosling pulling off a miracle. Star Wars the entertainment titan of a franchise, struggling.. Crazy! Star Wars stayed strong for near 20 years after episode 6 with practically nothing at all. Every kid and manchild loved it and it didn't get turned to shit with rushed diarrhea sequels/reboots.

>>214633841 (OP)
Why, it wasn't a particularly good adaptation. I liked the special effects, but John Carter was poorly cast and they managed to make him a boring charcater.

>>214634959
Disney would rather lose 100 million than be accused of sexualizing women.
What you must understand is the big picture.
There was a recent study about Disney being a religion, as Disney adult behave the same way as devoted churchgoers. They make pilgrimages to Disneyland.
Now, most of these are wymen, who are easily offended; even if Disney could make movies that appeal men at the cost of sexualizing women, it would risk alienating cashcows (pic related), and be seen as heretical.

>>214635286
>wymen
Huh?

>>214634959
>>214635286
Or better, forget about Tron and John Carter since no one gives a shit and sell Star Wars to someone else.
Disney makes lame kid slop, they will NEVER make anything that isnt embarrassing and boring

Make a tralalero tralala movie and sub 19 yo retards will flock to it like vultures to a carcass in the middle of the desert lmao. Also
>shit endless SW and Marvel films and shows for years that appeal to no one but 36 yo+ redditors
>disney somehow can't understand HOW no man with normal sperm counts and normal t levels wants their shit
No company is as disconnected from reality as Disney is. Maybe they should end their DEI crap

>>214635175
>fake nostalgia shit
nobody ever liked prequelshit

>>214635332
Kill SW already. Nobody will ever care about it anymore, That ship sailed 30 years ago

>>214635389
No its not, look at the money the rereleases make.
Star Wars is only dead as long as it's controlled by a company that makes nothing but hecking wholesome cartoons for toddlers with retarded feminist crap sprinkled all over it.
Ned Flanders: The Company is not going to make something good out of Star WARS

>>214635338
>tralalero tralala
Man i don't understand where all this garbage even comes from... like man, my brain is still trying to understand skibidi toilet

>>214635332
>they will NEVER make anything that isnt embarrassing and boring
You say that but Deadpool is Disney's and both movies made back their budget with a profit just fine
The question you need to ask is why did they downgraded the new Blade from R rated to pg13 to cancelled

>>214635528
I don't care how much money it made, that movie was lame and boring as well.

>>214635462
It's a fade
Like one time it was fortnite dances or skating

>>214635442
It's deader than dead, you nostalgic nigger.
Lucas told his space wizards story 40 years ago. Fucking move on.
Imagine is all fantasy and sci fi in the last century was all flash gordon and the only good entries were the first 3

Pretator, Alien, Terminator, SW, capeshit... all beaten corpses robbing opportunities of oxygen. No wonder nothing new was made since the late 90s

>>214635749
Star Wars has plenty of stuff worth adapting.
Hell, some of the best stuff in the franchise doesn't come from Lucas, or even from movies.

>>214634942
Kinooooooooooo

>>214635749
>>214635389
Again, look at the money the re-releases made.
People care about Star Wars, just not about Disney Wars.

>>214634816
I mean yeah? Who else? They literally rescue her from the grid for being a special IA that clu wanted to kill, hilarious in hindsight lol

>>214634816
>Pretty shit effort considering there's no fucking princess in that movie and the main theme is Flynn's relationship with his son.
You may be retarded.
>"Disney princess movie for boys"
>"WHERE'S THE PRINCESS!?"
Sam Flynn you dumbass. It's the structure of a Disney Princess movie but with a male character for young boys.
>superhero movie for girls
>but she's a superheroine!

>>214633841 (OP)
i love john carter (and the princess of mars)

Get your ass to Mars

>>214635783
>plenty of stuff worth adapting.
no it doesn't
It's derivative shit from creative people that don't have another fucking place to work on
I'm with mr angry over there
You can absolutely let it die and something new will come up, with good stories, on new IPs, and new worlds
You CAN still have good stuff, it just doesn't NEED to be Star Wars related

>>214637045
>You can absolutely let it die and something new will come up, with good stories, on new IPs, and new worlds
Lol. No. Not for you. But i'm sure more than a few people will be quite giddy at you losers finally giving up all your franchises. Took long enough to make it happen

>>214634751
Yeah this, the orders from the top don't matter, the shitters in the middle will never do it, the only way to truly fix it would be a massive ideological purge of the whole company

>>214633841 (OP)
John carter was fun

>>214634168
>they figured out
>totally not on purpose btw!

>>214633841 (OP)
Apologize? I liked it

>>214633841 (OP)
i have nothing to apologize for. for me, i enjoyed the john carter movie several times. i was on board. its you. you did this

>>214633841 (OP)

So the want young male adults to watch their stuff but the one thing they are not willing to do is make products those young male adults would enjoy? Seriously now, how is it that these retards rule the world?

>>214634694
They know what they need to do. They just refuse to do it.

>>214637045
I would watch epic Thrawn Trilogy or Rogue Squadron space battles or some Dark Forces action movie with a strong Male hero

>>214638139
Rogue Squadron would be nice war films franchise, but they must cast Karen Gillian as Plourr

>>214633841 (OP)
The industry sucks

>>214634180
He's being compelled. Look at him valiantly use the force to try to stop his right hand from signing. No doubt was was dealing with a Sith Lord.

>>214633841 (OP)
Sorry you were such a shit movie with a lead who couldn't act to save his life

There's a reason Taylor Kitsch doesn't get work anymore

>>214634589
Literally no one knows who he is

>>214633841 (OP)
fire kathleen kennedy and axe the force is female shit. star wars sells itself

>>214635332
>since no one gives a shit
John Carter is very simple to make it work. Its fantasy adventure in Mars where a mix of Flash Gordon and Conan Barbarian fights 4-armed green muscular martian men and helps a martian princess who dresses only in jewelry.
The appeal is so simple that Disney could easily make it work, they just don't actually want to make it work because it would upset the fat Disney Karens.

>buy Marvel and Star Wars
>let a bunch of middle aged women (the young boy's literal nemesis) handle its production moving forward

the 2010's were wild times

>>214635332
Disney will never sell star wars and marvel
Even if they can't make any money from those IPs they can at least stop them from being used to make money for any of their competitors

>>214633841 (OP)
I loved the John Carter movie, and even though Dejah didn't look like the book version, she was still insanely fucking hot
And it had Willen Dafoe as Tars Tarkas iirc, based as fuck

>>214633841 (OP)
they should make shadow of the conqueror

>>214638964
white guilt the story

john carter failed because it was pretty much the same movie as avatar except worse in every single solitary way

>>214639381
WRONG
avatar is just gay white men bad dances with wolves slop for faggots and bitches

>>214633841 (OP)
The Last of Us was only the start.

>>214639381
Walt met Edgar Rice Burroughs personally and they worked on a short film called Mars and Beyond.

years later whoever was in charge of the husk that was the Walt Disney company quickly shat out a film to keep the rights

>>214639438
so is john carter.

>>214639506
retarded nigger

>>214633841 (OP)
Crazy they bought Marvel and Star Wars for that exact reason, and then they turned them into women properties.

>>214633841 (OP)
Disney movies fuck kids heads up.

>>214634141
If you like current Marvel movies and comics, I'd consider that a red flag. I guess I can agree with him on that.

>>214639571
i accept your concession.

>>214634942
Every single movie looks great when you post screenshots in a collage like this. Here's the Marvels. I hate zoomers and their prequel revising

>>214634942
fuck this stupid trend. it's called movie, not photography

>>214633841 (OP)
>we want to win em back
Disney lost that gen forever....
I say move on Dianey

>>214633841 (OP)
Have they tried making something that appeals to me

>>214634816
DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT QUORRA
SHE'S MOST BEAUTIFUL DIGITAL PRINCESS

>>214639972
None of those look good though.

>>214640843
>it's called movie, not photography
And guess what movies are made with.

>>214641246
>Quorra is super hot
>new movie it's some average looking Asian woman and an ugly negress
Why did they give up one of the best parts of Tron Legacy?

>>214633841 (OP)
everytime there's an article like this they're just planning to double down on their retardation.
do people think they will remove almost 2 decades of company policy and fire half the people to make sure their next product isn't a pozzed piece of shit?

>>214633841 (OP)
>Make two critically acclaimed Pixar movies during their golden age
>Decide to do live action movie for Disney
>Movie is a colossal flop
>Reluctantly do sequel to your first Pixar movie
>Be Brad Bird

>>214641323
MOVing pictures not still pictures. If it looks shit while moving then it looking pretty by being still means nothing.

>>214641344
Yeah they fucked up. Plus halloween is almost here. They should've had a hot girl in a cute outfit so all the tik tok girls would've had a cool costume to wear for the holiday. That's free advertising if they'd it right. But of course they fucked it all up yet again

>>214641382
Moving pictures are a collection of still pictures, dipshit. Have you never seen a film reel?

>>214641382
It's just 24 pictures a second. Your mind it tricked into thinking they move

>>214641409
>film reel
The film reel is recording MOTION and if you fuck up the MOTION part of a MOTION picture then it's a shit MOTION picture.
>>214641425
>24 pictures
Most of them need to look good. If over half of them look ugly then why feature all 24?

>>214634267
>working for Jidsney
>YFW
ಠ__ಠ

>>214634527
welcome to the Matrix

>>214641407
The funniest thing is tik Tok girls might just watch Tron Legacy again or make their own Tron OC costume that ends up looking better than the average 5/10 bitches in the new movie.

>>214641478
>The film reel is recording MOTION and if you fuck up the MOTION part of a MOTION picture then it's a shit MOTION picture.
That's why we make sure to take enough pictures.

Reminder that a John Carter animated show is in the work with a showrunner who actually likes the source material. No idea if disney is involved though

>>214641674
something like thundercats 2011 would be cool

>>214641664
>enough pictures
So show ALL the pictures. Showing single stills of each scene like >>214634942 is worthless.

>>214641674
it's public domain (You) can make a Mars series anon

>>214634026
And Tron Legacy and John Carter were both good.

>>214641892
No you can publish new stories in the barsoom world. But adaptations of existing works and characters are held by whatever conglomerate bought the rights to that particular medium

>>214633841 (OP)
marvel and starwars are/were the biggest draws for young men and nerds and they fucked up on both the comic,toys/merchandise and cinematic end. what do they even have left that guys would even care about? only way they can try to mitigate the damage is to wipe away virtually everything in nu starwars and remove practically everything since endgame

>>214634208
it takes a special kind of retard to be able to chase guys away when shit like this is canonical to your IP

men only want one thing

>>214639267
i thought it was a rape fest

>>214642365
No anon, the books are public up to the volume 7 which mean you can adapt them in movie, comic, videogame... And disney can't do shit about it

>>214642482
>it takes a special kind of retard to be able to chase guys away
It's actually a piece of cake when you're required to create through a feminist lens

>>214634673
If your favorite restaurant starts repeatedly serving you shit on a plate are you going to keep going there or go to a new restaurant?

Well guys, if you're planning your suicide, you might as well take some wrongdoer with you.
Makes sense, right?