Thread 214640635

Book Euron: The actual anti christ
Show Euron: "A FINGER IN THE BUM"

>>214640635 (OP)
What's most frustrating and baffling about the show adaptation is how the books themselves were already filled to the brim of absolute kino characters and moments that are extremely easy to adapt to the screen because GRRM was literally a screenwriter for years and structured his books like cliffhanger-filled adventure shows. 99% of the changes made in the show are worse dramatically and cinematically than what happens in the books, and it's not a coincidence that most of the scenes in the first five seasons that people praise the most are the ones faithfully adapted from the books.

>>214640635 (OP)
>>214640838
>tfw we will never get a faithful adaptation of the Kingsmoot chapter

>>214640910
There are countless amazing scenes we got robbed of, especially from Feast and Dance, which were fucking GUTTED by D&D because they were """boring""" and full of """filler""" as every retard normie claimed for years before they learnt to appreciate it when they saw what D&D instead.
Especially disappointed about not getting to see scenes from Feast like:
>kevan roasting the fuck out of cersei
>cersei burning the tower of the hand and jaime realising she is crazy
>okay basically cersei's entire storyline of her being a fucking nutcase and systematically destroying everything her family built for years while devolving into an unhinged drunk lesbian psycho
>jaime actually becoming honourable and cool, especially the "throw it in the fire" ending scene
>rodrick the reader being the sole example of a smart, respectable and wise ironborn
>as you said, the brilliant kingsmoot chapter
>the kino as fuck moment (and also the only major battle in all of feast) where victarian uses retard rage and kills a bunch of knights with a battle-axe during a naval battle
>euron actually being scary and creepy and intimidating like OP alluded to
>arianne's big fat brown titties
>brienne and her misfit band of adventurers being oddly wholesome
>the absolutely fucking legendary final two brienne chapters that redeem her entire storyline, where she faces off against a group of psycho rapist cannibals to defend an inn of orphan children, completely alone and outnumbered, and then after the insane cliffhanger ending with the stoneheart execution

>>214640635 (OP)
pshh nothing personnel bookfags

Book Euron is a shitty edgelord power fantasy

>>214641160
He is way better than every other conventional villain in ASOIAF, especially the lame-ass retards Joffrey and Ramsay. Euron is actually smart and ambitious and seems to be a direct link to the real fantasy elements of the books by trying to literally raise Lovecraftian sea-monsters whereas every other villain is happy just burning villages and raping peasants.

>>214641160
this
>>214640635 (OP)
Show Euron was goated. It's like he was completely aware of the 4th wall and the bullshit illogical writing, and used that to his advantage.

They really made the Greyjoys shit in the show
>No gigachad Victarion
>No seething fanatical damphair

A shame

>>214641432
Especially disappointing because they canonically exist in the show because in 1x4 Tyrion tells Theon "I believe your uncles were responsible" when talking about seeing the Lannister fleet burn at Lannisport, a really cool reference for book-readers back when the writers gave a fuck about the lore.

>>214641471
Also I think they did technically include Aeron Damphair iirc, although he’s a extra seen baptising Theon I think.

>>214640635 (OP)
this faggot has the exact same role in Foundation

what a creatively bankrupt decision, that

>>214640635 (OP)
I liked how his final scene was him smugly looking at the camera as he died

>>214640635 (OP)
As a character separate from the book version, I liked show Euron. I dislike that it's Euron because book Euron is a great human villain, but if show Euron had been a separate character I wouldn't have minded his inclusion.

My favourite Greyjoy-adjascent scene has got to be in an Asha PoV chapter in Dance after she's been captured and she is sitting in on one of Stannis' war councils and everyone is miserable and on edge because they're trapped in a snowstorm, and the southern lords are urging Stannis to retreat, and then Stannis delivers this fucking banger response:
>We all know what my brother would do. Robert would gallop up to the gates of Winterfell alone, break them with his warhammer, and ride through the rubble to slay Roose Bolton with his left hand and the Bastard with his right. I am not Robert. But we will march, and we will free Winterfell … or die in the attempt.
And then the southern lords basically despair and realise they're gonna die, but the northern lords and wildmen start cheering, and even Asha admits that Stannis impressed her, and had an ironborn-like spirit.
Absolute fucking kino moment, and obviously no way the show was gonna depict it because of how much the writers hated Stannis.

>>214640635 (OP)
kwab

>>214641137
tbf the Red Keep didn't fall during RR, they were tricked into opening the gates to Tywin's army who then fucked the place up

>>214641867
>Absolute fucking kino moment, and obviously no way the show was gonna depict it because of how much the writers hated Stannis.
>Finally get Stannis' hero moment as he saves the Nights Watch
>They introduce him with his ominous fucking villain music as though he's just done something evil
What the fuck was their problem?

>>214641705
Is the show foundation pozzed?

>>214641160
So basically show Arya?

>>214640635 (OP)
Is Donald Trump the Euron of our times?

>>214643705
Its a good show, but there are a lot of black women in it.
They gaslight us for noticing...but seriously it keeps happening. Its like the whole galaxy is a black woman.

>>214641867
>Ser Corliss Penny gave the clan chief an incredulous look. "Do you want to die, Wull?"
>That seemed to amuse the northman. "I want to live forever in a land where summer lasts a thousand years. I want a castle in the clouds where I can look down over the world. I want to be six-and-twenty again. When I was six-and-twenty I could fight all day and fuck all night. What men want does not matter.
>"Winter is almost upon us, boy. And winter is death. I would sooner my men die fighting for the Ned's little girl than alone and hungry in the snow, weeping tears that freeze upon their cheeks. No one sings songs of men who die like that. As for me, I am old. This will be my last winter. Let me bathe in Bolton blood before I die. I want to feel it spatter across my face when my axe bites deep into a Bolton skull. I want to lick it off my lips and die with the taste of it on my tongue."

>>214644594
>the Ned

>>214641111
>>arianne's big fat brown titties
The Soiled Knight is too based for D&D to ever have adapted it. Legitimately one of the best chapters in the book, they never could have done justice to Arys knowing that Arianne is completely mindfucking him but still falling for it anyway because she's so irresistible

>>214644925
>here's Dorne, a land of incredibly beautiful and promiscuous brown women
>here's the Summer Isles, a land of incredibly beautiful brown women who literally worship sex
>here's a chapter where Cersei has steamy lesbian sex with a sultry brown woman
>btw you know that 12 year old slave girl? we're gonna make her a sexy brown woman in the TV show who gets naked a bunch
What did GRRM mean by this?

“When I was a boy, I dreamt that I could fly,” he announced. “When I woke, I couldn’t…or so the maester said. But what if he lied?”
“Perhaps we can fly. All of us. How will we ever know unless we leap from some tall tower?”

>>214641111
Feast and Dance are my favorite books but they are the ones that ultimately killed any hope of finihsing the series. With pace those books set and adding new POVs (which were great, Victarion is easily my favorite character) the series realistically needed 3 or 4 more books. Not two. I have no idea why the fatman autistically set limit of only two more books on himself. Now his legacy will be forever being a smelly fat retard who couldn't finish his magnum opus. Fuck him. Fuck him fuck him

>>214641111
Was Lady Stoneheart in the show at all?
I never watched the last season.

>>214642733
After season one, Tyrion became the main character. This made Stannis the bad guy because season two's climax was the Battle of Blackwater. So Stannis gets villain music. Plus he was killing wildlings, and in modern entertainment writing the wilderness-dwelling tribal people are basically always assumed to be sympathetic good guys because of American guilt over the Indians, so killing wildlings en masse kind of "feels" bad to the creatives and warrants the sinister music/editing.

>>214645647
No but that's actually a good thing. I absolutely hated that martin decided to just resurrect her. Can't quite explain it but it didn't fit the books for me at all

>>214645647
nope cut entirely along with basically every sideplot from Feast/Dance onwards

>>214642733
"He's going to do something bad later, so we can't have him being heroic, it will just confuse the audience."

>>214640635 (OP)
I wanna know how anyone even remembers the books at this point or the show unless you keep reading/watching them over and over. Don't think I've read any of them in a decade.

>>214641111
>>where victarian uses retard rage and kills a bunch of knights with a battle-axe during a naval battle
Also Victarion uses full armor, which is a big no no in the sea because if you fall on the ocean, you'll certainly drown. Victarion's line is that he will then finally enter the Drowned God watery walls, ballsy as fuck
>>brienne and her misfit band of adventurers being oddly wholesome
No chance and no choice. One of the best moments in Feast.

>>214645718
Why? It makes sense to me.
She's revenge made flesh from the sin of violating the sacred guest rights.

>>214640635 (OP)
they literally did not give a shit about the show at that point
the last season is so hilariously bad, i've rewatched to season 3, you can see thats when things really start to fall apart. first two seasons are KINO.

>>214644184
Perhaps it is, we'll have to wait for Elon accelerate his program

>>214645647
>>214645718
Lady Stoneheart is gay. So is Ned's brother becoming an undead whatever. It's really dumb and unrealistic that there are not one but TWO people that are undead and they both happen to be Starks (Cat by marriage). Especially dumb when Bran is already a super cool magical kid.
Let's be honest the books get really stupid. This is a common problem in fantasy fiction. The author is expected to raise the stakes and make shit even cooler and it gets detached from the slow burn shit that made the first books enjoyable.
What the same thing happened in Emberverse series. Comfy books that start out with humanity returning to feudalism, a Marine becomes an unlikely warrior king, there's a SCA guy who seizes power because he's been hobbying his whole list at this shit. It's all logical and grounded. By book 6 or whatever the warrior king's kid is getting a magical sword that makes him a supergod. It's all so tiresome.

>>214646090
Benjen is not an undead in the books. No one knows his whereabouts.

>>214645757
I can't recall like I used to and I wouldn't just suddenly remember some of the stuff in this thread without being prompted, but there was a year or so of my life when I spent every waking moment thinking about these fucking books

>>214640635 (OP)
Why would you want to put your finger into the hole a woman shits from?

>>214646136
Then that's just D&D being retarded and making a composite character. Fair enough but I will laugh if he does show up undead.
Assuming that fat fuck ever finishes the books.

>>214645718
It's not really her anymore. It's just a spirit of vengeance. And the thing is not really without foreshadowing. Beric dies a bunch of times and starts to become this husk of a being. Catelyn spends weeks, I think, dead, so when she comes back she's just seething and frothing 24/7.

>>214640635 (OP)
Book euron buttraped his brothers

>>214645647
You can imagine how that went.
>Hey Michelle we want you to stay in the show
>The thing is you'll be an undead revenge zombie so you'll never to sit in makeup for 5 hours every day before shooting
>you'll probably only be in like every other episode anyway
I'm sure she yeeted the fuck outta there.

>>214646214
>Then that's just D&D being retarded and making a composite character.
Yeah. He probably appears again and does exactly what Coldhands did in the show: sacrifices himself to save either Jon or Bran, but that's it.

>Assuming that fat fuck ever finishes the books.
Fat chance. I used to say to anyone seething about the books to calm her tits down and that at least TWOW we'll read. At least that. What a fucking disappointment now

>>214646261
By that point they were already fishing for other projects. I doubt they planned Stoneheart.

>>214645486
Bloodraven did that. He tried to train Euron so he could hijack his body, but then a much more promising character appeared in his visions: a boy wolf, and that's how he bid his time and waited for Bran. Bran is a greenseer AND a skinchanger. A much more rarer treat and a powerful vessel for Bloodraven. Nothing can't convince that old fucker isn't planning to commit the so called "abomination", for the Greater Good, of course.

No one ever mentions Val that wildling bitch in these threads but I thought her character was pretty interested and its weird they didnt include her.

>>214646447
Val steps on man and then mocks them, anon. Be very careful now.

>>214646267
It took Stephen King, who's a workhorse compared to GRRM, 30 years to finish The Dark Tower.
It's been 28? years since A Game of Thrones and that fat fuck will almost certainly never finish it.
I'd be so pissed if I started those books.

How will they resolve Sunfyre dying in HotD bros
>Aegon says he's dead
>Criston Cole says he's dead
oops, guess Joffrey "forgot" he was dead...

>>214641432
Gigachad Low IQed Turbobrute Victarion with a charred hand and sacrificing to two Gods, completely unhinged, sailor of the Dothraki Sea, and drooling to meet his silver-haired oneitis in Meereen all hell be damned. If that's not a fun character, I don't know what is

>>214646633
>Sunfyre
They already confirmed he's alive.

>>214645757
I relisten to random DavidReadsASOIAF chapters any time I need background noise and there are no interesting new youtube videos

>>214646704
That's pretty stupid since he's hella dead

>>214646795
She was so cute in Thoroughbreds. Look at her now T-T

>214646843
white woman aging syndrome

>>214647123
I thought that was a latina problem

>>214640635 (OP)
They knew he would be a fan favorite for "the wrong people" and cucked him in advance.

>>214644184
Except for the Empire, who is A. Wyatt. Mann.

>>214646633
Rhaenyra survives and goes into hiding with Alicent, of course. The story of her being barbecued is made up to cover their tracks.

>>214641111
Just imagine.

>>214641111
Checked

>>214649777
Checked

>>214649799
Checked

>>214649731
>Biter’s mouth tore free, full of blood and flesh. He spat, grinned, and sank his pointed teeth into her flesh again. This time he chewed and swallowed. He is eating me, she realized, but she had no strength left to fight him any longer. She felt as if she were floating above herself, watching the horror as if it were happening to some other woman, to some stupid girl who thought she was a knight. It will be finished soon, she told herself. Then it will not matter if he eats me.
>Biter threw back his head and opened his mouth again, howling, and stuck his tongue out at her. It was sharply pointed, dripping blood, longer than any tongue should be. Sliding from his mouth, out and out and out, red and wet and glistening, it made a hideous sight, obscene. His tongue is a foot long, Brienne thought, just before the darkness took her. Why, it looks almost like a sword.
Absolute kino.

>>214640635 (OP)
This character actually felt out of place in Game of Thrones. He just felt too ridiculous, even in a show full of deranged characters.