Thread 214673321

ships!

I've always been a Star Wars fan, but Trek always did have very beautiful ship designs.
I wish they would remake Star Trek: Legacy.

Watched Justice the other night. What can you shipfags tell me about this one? I like it.

best chonky boi here

>>214673341
i like trek ships because they seem more designed and uniform. but i like wars ships because, at least for the rebel ones, they're utilitarian and thrown together looking. both are great to look at

This is my baby. Fast, agile, armed to the teeth.

>>214673516
Have they started redesigning the old ships?

I might get back into STO but I've always wanted to play a Constitution or Galaxy class, go full Enterprise, but they always kind of suck ass if I'm not mistaken and I get convinced to get some assault cruiser or something for good DPS.

>>214673438
Design rules rule

>>214673321 (OP)
Some of their kitbashed ships look amazing and it's hard to believe it wasn't something they spent weeks or months designing from the ground up. Then others just look fucking retarded like a 3 year old with legos.

I dont like klingon ships but this one looked cool

i want to rub its belly and say good boy

>>214673438
>i like wars ships because, at least for the rebel ones, they're utilitarian and thrown together looking. both are great to look at
the best ship from star wars was the j-type nubian
if sex was a ship this would be her

>>214673733
not familiar with that one. it looks similar to the ship in phantom menace? i liked that design just cause they went with something totally different, it was all sleek and mirrory compared to everything else

>>214673341
Star Trek Legacy would a buggy mess but it was pretty damn close to being a good game. A remake would be awesome

>>214673733
Ahhh yesss nubian...

>>214673807
Yes it is the ship in the first film that the they escape in. The idea with Lucas is that each planet had to be instantly identifiable to the audience.
That is why tatooine looks like it does with the tech it has and naboo looks like it does with its tech.
It is all for the audience to make it easier to follow.

>>214673733
Nigga that's just a SR-71 done up Flight of the Navigator style

>>214673733
Naboo ships are definitely cool looking, iirc they wanted to design to reflect rays and sharks.

Mando's stripped down version of the fighter is novel but a huge downgrade from pic related.

>>214673883
and the pod racers are just chariots with engines for horses, whats your point?

>kronos one model from st 4
the pinout in the middle looks suspiciously like an old ribbon cable for hard drives

>>214673867
what a lame reason to do a change. but it worked i guess, if i remembered it and i hate all the nuwars shit (wars went to shit in 97 when george edited the rereleases, years before most people think it went to shit because of disney)

>>214673321 (OP)
Love Miranda-class ships. They never go down easy.

>>214673561
The new(ish) connie MW FDC is one of the best carriers available at the moment.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_Miracle_Worker_Flight_Deck_Carrier
The Mirror Warship is a fantastic cannon platform and has one of the best ship traits available.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Constitution_Warship

>>214673912
my point is star wars is derivative drek

>>214673733
>blocks your hyperlane
Sucks that it never did anything beyond a line or two in a book trilogy and ttrpg sourcebooks

>>214674094
can you just buy one of those straight up with goybux? Maybe the mirror ship...

>>214674274
Technically through other exchanges. If there's one on the market you can buy like 120 keys or so on the store with money, then sell them on the market for EC, then buy the ship on there for EC. If not, you can ask in /zone or trade that you want to buy the ship for the equivalent worth of 1.5bil EC in keys. It fluctuates a lot and there's often sales for both keys and EC.
If you're patient and want to maximize it, you buy discounted EC, then you buy discounted keys, then you wait for the price of keys to return to normal, then you sell the keys. It's a long wait for those to cycle though.

>>214674274
I was wrong, you can get the legendary connie FDC for regular bucks, expensive bundle though.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Legendary_Constitution_Temporal_Flight_Deck_Carrier

>>214673358
It reappears in another episode, in a better episode, but in a completely different and unrelated context. What a Conundrum.

>>214674413
how the hell do the carriers work? You just poop out a bunch of fighters?

>>214673321 (OP)
Even from a kitbashing perspective, this thing is remarkable. Transitioning the saucer into the angular back while the phaser banks are still stiting on the curved suface. It's so sexy

not trek but i'd pay money to tour this set with everything going on

>>214673429
ugly ship from an ugly show

>>214674444
Yeah, or a couple frigates if you're a big boy. This is my Tarantula dreadnought with one hangar bay that launches 2 Meshweavers, if it was a carrier it'd be two bays for 4 total. You can make them run any way you want, support or attack, it's all more about aesthetics than anything unless you're doing meta, which is an incredibly sad thing to chase in STO.

>>214673678
The Vorcha is very cool indeed

I know they kind of just look like big space turds but I really like Groumall-types.

>>214674818
Forced Ship Design

>>214674818
>RAMEN
lol
I am using that on my KDF recruit alt.

>>214674885
The JJ Enterprise is so fucking ugly, god damn.

>>214674885
>>214674904
>>214674906

>>214674906
i dont mind the design but it looks like tom paris drew his ideal ent on a napkin

>>214674963
Fucking trainwreck for any type of canon.

>>214673631
>>214674906

>>214674885
>>214674906
>for some reason Mr. Lensflare thought people wanted the Apple Enterprise
>gets butthurt about it
>makes drastically inferior wrath of khan movie
>only cool part is the vastly better looking Vegeance, even though thr scale is still absolutely fucked

>>214675055
Was crazy to see how they achieved these shots. As a kid I thought it was greenscreen maybe with some wires holding it up on the normal axis, but nope it's sideways or upside down being shot angle on and such.

>>214674906
>nacelle bigger than the ship

>>214675160
i havent seen this one before. i need to start a folder for these behind the scenes model shit. they're just so awesome looking. a true art that is lost cause of cg

Great thread. Does anyone know what happened to the Type 6 Shuttlecraft prop? I mean the full size one.

I genuinely wanted to buy it at auction but I never saw it for sale. Nor did I see any of the other full size shuttle props from TNG.

>>214673925
That might be, they used the original Klingon battlecruiser made for the opening scene in ST The Motion Picture in 1979, repainted it, and added some new detail parts to it.

>>214675246
Do they really auction off props this big?

>>214675246
That wasn’t a prop it was a set. They didn’t move it around

>>214675194
thats just being transported, they dont film it like that. filming is done normally like you'd think against the green screen. after its on film they can edit it to be upside down and stuff if need be

>>214675246
Admit it. You were gonna fuck it

>>214673321 (OP)
I've always loved the USS Raven (7 of 9's family ship).

>>214675457
if thats a sovereign on top, whats below it?

>>214675491
Enterprise f from the mmo, lots of fun ship designs came from that game.

>>214675491
Odessy class, Enterprise-F. Kinda ugly, but it's growing on me

>>214675537
>>214675567
i like the profile at least. never played the game so i'm unaware of it. i also dont hate the sovereign class, which most people seem to

>>214675607
I always thought the E was closer to what the Enterprise should look like than D. Having said that, I understand the D was meant to look less warlike.

>>214675612
>two bridges just because

>>214675659
where?

>>214675643
the d (galaxy) was specifically designed to have a giant saucer section, gene wanted it to be grander like that and specified it. i always liked the the sovereign uses the same big oval saucer shape, but turns it 90 degrees to make it look sleeker. i think they both look great but i prefer the galaxy if i had to choose

>>214675643
E was more streamlined and narrower than the previous ships of the line to deal with the Borg.

Say what you will about Adam Savage, but I love his love of old school physical models:
https://www.youtube.com/@tested/search?query=trek
This one with the original TOS Enterprise is amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VMyePEToYE

>>214675768
Which episode had the raping blob attacking the Enterprise?

boring grey bullshit

>>214675768
>say what you will about Adam Savage
The moment that he told his sister to refer to him as "The Raping Blob" is everything that has ever needed to be said about Adam Savage.

>>214675305
>Do they really auction off props this big?
Yes. They sold a couple shuttles. Most recently the shuttle from Star Trek Enterprise. Cost $60K at auction

>>214673438
I always liked how the details on a Star Wars ship look like technology or hardware that actually does something. I like the pipes and little engine bits so much more than the modern trend of geometric shapes all over the outside that does nothing but add detail to an otherwise flat surface.

>>214675841
Some dude bought the Enterprise shuttle and put it in his garage.

>>214675869
Dude please slow down. Don't flood the thread with too many posts so quickly. It's a cool Trek thread and I want to keep it up for a while.

>>214673678
Why did these only appear a couple times and then it was the B'Rel bird of prey forever after?

>>214675897
Last one

>>214675307
>That wasn’t a prop it was a set. They didn’t move it around
Lies!

>>214675362
>Admit it. You were gonna fuck it
I was gonna restore it and take pictures of it. And humble brag Star Trek threads to other nerds.

Yes. My life doesn't have a lot going on. So I actually had the cash to spend to buy the full size prop.

>>214675762
I think you're imagining that. How does that deal with the Borg?

The Defiant deals with the Borg by being cheaper to produce, so you can build a fleet for fewer resources than other fleets. But then they didn't build a fleet for the Real World reason that it's a "hero" ship, which is the same reason why there are no Sovereigns on DS9.

>>214675938
It's hilarious how tiny those doors are. The Galaxy barely fits. You would think Starfleet would enlarge the doors if the Galaxy has such little clearance. One mistake and the Galaxy would bash into the door frame. Lmao.

>>214675862
the details are what make them so wonderful to look at. doesnt matter the franchise, models are amazing when they actually do them

>>214675762
>>214675971
>>214675643
I think it's hilarious that the Federation is arrogant enough to think they can "deal" with the Borg.

All you need to conquer the Federation is to send 3 Borg Cubes to Earth. Problem solved.

The Borg had millions of Cubes and other ships.

>>214675971
Defiant was a shitbox designed out of reactionary fear that failed its purpose in its first engagement against the enemy it was tailor-made to combat.

>>214676012
The federation discovered like three different ways to exterminate the Borg but different people chose not to.

>>214675935
The early seasons of TNG they did not have enough money in the show's budget to build a new Klingon ship. That is why you saw the Klingon Bird of Prey so much in early TNG, they already had the model that was built for Search for Spock. When TNG started getting good ratings after a few seasons, they built the Vorcha model.

>>214676030
The point of the Defiant was to build multiple ships for the price of one. The failure was not building more.

A single Defiant was never going to beat a Borg Cube. A hundred Defiants though... now there's another story.

>>214676039
No they didn't. They thought they discovered something. But it was revealed later that it would not have worked.

It was all Federation arrogance.

>>214676068
Prometheus embodied that philosophy better.

>>214676072
>But it was revealed later that it would not have worked.
Borg hands typed this post

>>214676063
Tbh, that was for the best. Limitations breed creativity and innovation. Smaller budget = they have to really be smart with how they spend their money. Which means better writing.

Look at what happened with Star Trek Discovery. They had the biggest budget per episode in Star Trek history (and possibly TV history). Something like $10 to $15 million dollars per episode. I bet most of it went to useless CGI slop.

>>214675872
Damn that's cool. I would sit in that shuttle for hours and use it as my personal office.

>>214676063
Even at the end they still refused to give them a proper budget for Generations so they had to reuse the BoP explosion from the previous movie. So dumb.

>>214676105
wonderful

>>214675872
I wonder how he transported it to his garage. Do you think the road was long?

>>214676100
Nah, he's right at least for Hugh, they re-wiped him before reintegrating him to the collective, and only later after the Cooperative was created was he returned his memories.

>>214676147
The one thing I'll give SNW credit for is the exterior model accuracy and detail, feels very good. Shame the interior is utter nonsense.

>>214676147
Since when did Nu Trek adopt Star Wars-like shields for its ships?

>>214676243
>give Deanna control of the ship for ONE FUCKING MISSION
>she immediately crashes it into a planet
Wild.

>>214676277
It's polarized hull plating, they had to keep their shields down to avoid being detected by a klingon battlecruiser.

>>214676303
shit, meant for
>>214676274

>>214676210
it took me an embarrassingly long time to realize he literally wears a latinum bar around his neck lmao

>>214676325
Brunt, slash eff ayy slash.

>>214676325
it looks big enough to be a brick but it also has something inscribed on it. i'm to lazy to look it up further

>>214676310
I always found it mighty white of the Romulans to have held off from mounting a full-scale invasion of Federation space after Starfleet just lost 25% of its ships in a single engagement.

>>214676457
Defiant a cute.

>>214673438
Rodenberry has rules for the ships.
The bridge needed to be on top.
Warp drive needed nacelles by the pair that had at least 33% line of sight with each-other.
Just a simple rule gives everything designed some kind of practical design cohesion.

>>214676212
akira class, my beloved

>>214675869
>oberth class distress beacon

>>214676484
>had at least 33% line of sight with each-other
i know a lot of trek facts but this one is new to me. i know when they did tng, he insisted on the huge oval for the saucer section of the enterprise. a lot of designs since then build on that premise and look great

>>214673733
The slick 1950s sci-fi of Naboo hardware was a nice contrast to their usual ships, for which the term "greeble" was invented.

>>214676212
>>214676515
>>214676568
Gentlemen and scholars.

>>214676662
Cheap glitter, just like the prequels. An eyesore departure from the designs of the OT.

>>214676153
>I wonder how he transported it to his garage. Do you think the road was long?
He rented a U-Haul and boldly went where no man had gone before.

>>214676274
I literally stopped caring about SNW after Season 1. I stopped watching. It's clear the staff lied about making a more faithful and honest Star Trek show that's similar to the older style of Trek.

>>214676827
They promise the next season will be better and less wacky. They pinky promise.

>>214676739
I like that it looks sleek and dangerous without being overly aggressive, while keeping all those starfleet lines.

>>214676827
Pity, I've thoroughly enjoyed SNW, especially after the bizarre Section 31 and the Picard rollercoaster.

>>214676852
You're just a beaten dog.

>>214676587
>a lot of designs since then build on that premise and look great
Except designers have this obsession with removing the "neck" and making the ships look like one piece. This gives them a deformed look.

A few YouTubers whine about the neck being a "weak point." These people try to gamify Star Trek and treat it like a video game. It's really annoying. They make entire videos complaining about the neck section. I honestly don't know what is wrong with these peoples' brains.

>>214676838
They promise every time, and break it every time. Next season has a fucking puppet episode. Whoever decided 1/3rd of a ten epiaode run should be comedy needs to be blacklisted from Hollywood.

>>214676903
The only ST project I've refused to engage with is Prodigy, so yeah, maybe. There's been a lot of shit to sit through but SNW isn't even the third most egregious offering.

>>214676947
It has tiny bits of goodness surrounded by a huge cloud of bad. They obviously need to get through with SNW, move on to Star Trek: Year One, and eject their writers room into space.

>>214676947
But prodigy is the least shit and most faithful of all the nu-trek dreck. It's still below TAS, but it's bearable.

>>214676852
Not my fault they didn't deliver on their promise. SNW staff shouldn't have said anything.

It also doesn't help that Captain Pike's actor can't keep his mouth shut on social media and ranting about being Anti-trump. He just won't shut up. I honestly wonder if he's being paid to make these posts and do interviews. Is he that desperate to keep his job?


At least with Picard TV show, I knew it would be garbage when Patrick Stewart gave interviews before the show aired. He said he was heavily involved in the writers room and helped write ideas for Season 1 and Season 2. He kept talking about Trump and fighting conservatives. I knew it would it be garbage.

I was so happy when they said Patrick Stewart had been removed from the Writers Room in Picard Season 3. I knew it would be a massive jump in quality.

>>214673733
Prequelfags make me retch.

>>214676755
>Cheap glitter, just like the prequels. An eyesore departure from the designs of the OT.
Please avoid asking grok to come up with a post for you.

>>214676977
No thanks, if I want to scour my eyes with sandpaper I'll just do an STD rewatch.
>>214677030
Didn't you get fired, Mr. McCallum? You don't have to shill and defend the hack Lucas anymore.

>>214676947
>>214676977
The problem with Prodigy is:

1. No one asked for it.

2. Kurtzman wanted Nickelodeon to pay for the production. So he sold it as a "kids" show to Nickelodeon. Which killed 90% of the interest Star Trek fans may have had.


Prodigy is faithful to lore... Kinda, but I have no interest in the story. I do not want to see bumbling children re-discover common Trek "mysteries" over 24 episodes.

You would think returning to the Delta Quadrant would be a huge event but Prodigy treats it like it's unimportant.

>>214677062
>banking
>in space
gotta love it.

>>214674442
i was just going to say. it's the one where the mysterious extra first officer shows up and tricks the enterprise into attacking some primitive civilization, no one remembers who they are, riker reams out ro, etc.

>>214676310
Wait what? How come I don't remember this scene? I put in my DS9 DVD and can't find it.

>>214677141
It's a fan video cut of the "entire" Wolf 359 battle we never got to see in TNG or DS9.

>>214677141
I assume it's from the videogame Star Trek: Borg.

>>214676310
If the Federation is down to using century-old ships 3 generations out of date, they deserve to lose.


As the Borg approach, the same backstabbing politicians who brought that about probably sent out feelers to the Borg, to try to arrange that they be appointed the lackey local governors of Earth.

>>214677246
They've all been retrofitted, and the starfleet charter is largely exploratory and science based when they aren't just ferrying local politicians between starbases and patrolling the neutral zone.

>>214676915
>A few YouTubers whine about the neck being a "weak point."
To be fair, it usually is. That's why the Defiant is centrally aligned with no neck or nacelle pylons

>>214677357
How is the Enterprise "neck" being a weakpoint any different than the neck being a weakpoint on Klingon warbirds or Romulan Warbirds?

>>214677357
If it were up to YouTubers, all Trek ships with be boring uninteresting blobs. No unique character at all.

>>214677418
It's much weaker on the D7 cruiser and frankly to have such a weak point is retarded.

>>214677447
>No unique character at all.
I get it, you're not into hard sci-fi and operational feasibility. It's okay to be into space fantasy. Maybe Wars is more your speed.

>>214676915
Once the shields are down they're pretty much all made of tissue paper. And the neck means the main crew sections are as far away from the antimatter reactor. And separating the saucer section is something from the inception of trek, they just never managed to show it off until the first season of TNG, and then its basically forgotten about until generations.

>>214677468
Gee, do you think there's a reason every faction just doesn't make Borg cubes because it's the most efficient?

>>214677357
If it were up to YouTubers, all Trek ships with be boring uninteresting blobs. No unique character at all.

>>214677468
Do you want everyone to run around in Borg Cubes? No weakpoints!!

>>214677531
Like it or not, the Cube is the apex of efficient engineering in ST.

>>214677468
If I wanted hard scifi then Star Trek is one of the last places I'd look for it.

>>214677567
Yeah, it's almost like they did that to demonstrate the borg are more efficient than everyone else.

>>214677478
It's strange. You would think with advanced modern CGI, they would do saucer seperation more often. But nope.

>>214677587
That's because it's retarded

>>214677587
It is a neat idea, but hard to not make it look goofy. Its like a weird flying saucer and a microcephalic galaxy class.

Akira-class is just a more modernised
Miranda-class

>>214675722
Fucking Turbolift is stuck, captain!

>>214673474
Steamrunner?

>>214675795
I love you. <3

>>214677733
EMH is a bloodthirsty killer.

>>214677733
For a hologram, the Doctor was a menace.

>>214677739
wat? not even close

>>214676585
Captain, the Indian delegations sewage has burst the pipes on decks 3,5,8 and 9, port turbolift, decks 15 and deck 16. SHE'S GONNA BLOW!

>>214659001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wI4jMxveyI
might as well

Made it to Picard 2x09. Picard is apparently in the room at the Chateau where his mom acked herself. But wait, the writers are of course retarded. That chateau burned down when Picards family was killed in Generations. Also just the idea of "helpful" Borg is positively terrifying. How are they even going to expand their population without assimilation? People are just gonna line up and sign up to get borgified because the Borgs have "mercy" now? I'm glad I'm almost done with this retarded ass season anyway.

>>214677869
he has many great songs
https://youtu.be/Jze2xTcukc0
The man has both talent and range and its a shame so few people appreciate him

>>214677984
Torturing yourself with Picard is definitely a choice

>>214677984
You're past the worst of it, season 3 is a huge jump in quality and oh, just wait and see how "helpful" the Borg really are.

>>214678078
S3 is a huge jump in quality

but it still fucking sucks, and none of the characters act like their TNG selves, they just act like the cast at a convention

there's no military decorum, no professionalism, just the TNG cast acting like the same scrappy group of outlaw heroes that Picard and co have been in the first two seasons of the show. Patrick Stewart only acts like Picard once in the entire series.

>>214678072
>he has many great songs
No, he doesn't.

But I'll always like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0

>>214678109
>just the TNG cast acting like the same scrappy group of outlaw heroes that Picard and co have been in the first two seasons of the show.
Geordi tries to toe the line, at least

>>214678157
lose the hunchback and i like it. also dont like the moving nacels they went with

>>214678113
that is a great one but i am sorry you just don't get it
this one is not filled with melancholy and is aimed firmly at a section of star trek fans
https://youtu.be/qPBt4IuQEbw
>has been
has been was , has been might again

i will accept common people was his best album. his early stuff is too experimental for most people but I love when he is quoting Henry V. His later stuff for the most part all covers and goes more into total camp.
Common people is the sweet spot.

>>214677634
It doesn't have to be.

>>214678190
>moving nacels
But the sound design for moving nacels gave me a boner anon

>>214678479
i know that sound you mean:
https://youtu.be/uDaOYj2wggg?t=92

>>214678423
>moving pieces the size of an office building

>>214677984
>How do the Borg expand their population without assimilation?
We saw Borg babies in TNG 216 "Q Who".

>>214673321 (OP)
pon farr with dr selar

>>214678763
Those were babies who had been assimilated, and not borg-born kids.
Really the borg should be genetic engineering specialists who assimilate new races, but their genes get spliced and added to the stock-borg that they are constantly creating that are naturally better than the alien races they encounter.

star trek sex with mirror hoshi

>>214678809
That wasn't the story as of TNG episode 216. It changed later, due to bad writing.

>>214677101
My problem with Prodigy is Star Trek is about the human condition and the human adventure. So we make a show with no humans?

>>214678940
Writers can't identify and sympathize with humans.

>>214678074
This is Qs penance for enjoying so many good seasons of Star Trek. That's one thing I can say that's positive about Picard: it makes the rest of Star Trek seem so much better by comparison.

>>214678960
After watching Prodigy and Picard, I empathize with the Q who got frozen in an asteroid who just wanted to die. Is that something?

>>214673321 (OP)
The original series was the best one, it had the hottest girls and had the reasonable number of 79 episodes instead of over 170 like The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager