Thread 215103563

Thread for the intellectual discussion of arthouse and classic cinema

RESURRECTION EDITION

QOTD — can we as a community continue to take an active effort even sometimes in vain for the sake of preserving traditions of the past?

>/film/ charts
https://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ
>/film/ directors directory
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qgdYsMPAaFWrAa_7EHLpXqpOHLaDLmytM9wJ5nhGtqs
>/film/ literature
https://mega.nz/folder/XCokCRpR#tlesB0J_7jhaEWZVJqVzlA
>but anon, where do I find these films?
https://rentry.org/filmlinks
https://rentry.org/kinolinks
>script to make 3x3 webms
https://textdoc.co/D5QNYIX2avmsqi49

I thought our trip around the world was done, but I see I was wrong. Based.

>>215103563 (OP)
Yes, we should restore /film/ to a level of glory maybe never known before. Discuss movies; post cool pics; eviscerate shitters.

>no previous
You should be ashamed

Recs from Hollywood New Wave?

>>215103719
>last chart from September 1st
I don't think the anon is ever going to finish

>>215103887
Hence RESURRECTION edition

Personally I think yesterdays smoggy cock edition killed /film/

>>215103913
Hud from cinematographer James Wong Howe

/film/ directors who also write songs and sing like bob dylan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl4h99MyrZ4

>>215103913
star wars
duel
french connection
daisy miller
marathon man
the black stallion
sugarland express

>>215103563 (OP)
Petty faggot

Previous: >>215079929

>>215104735
oh wow the thread that was so shit it got pruned? thanks for linking it, friend!

>>215104766
Kill yourself.

ok which one of you fucking psychos was this in my /kino/ webchat

>>215104807
i was going to but now that you've told me to do it i've decided i want to live. thanks!

>>215104807
Why don't you practice what you preach? Your threads all suck btw; 0 creativity. Can only keep afloat through shameless samefagging.

>>215105017
>Why don't you practice what you preach?
I don't and never have preached killing myself.
>Your threads all suck btw; 0 creativity.
Mental illness. It doesn't matter what you think of a particular /film/ thread: you just link the old ones regardless because the general is bigger than one person.
>samefagging
You clearly don't know what that means.

>>215105232
You just told a guy to khs, so you should show us how to do it via example, and as I said, your threads can only thrive through forcing replies via samefagging by the same 3 people all the time. lol, such a loser.

>>215105385
>You just told a guy to khs
Correct. Which is different from preaching suicide as a general rule or preaching my own suicide.
>so you should show us how to do it via example
There are plenty of sources of instruction ranging from text to video that could be followed. I could provide instructions if you want the personal touch, but killing myself is both undesirable and totally unnecessary.
>samefagging
>3 people
Thanks for confirming what I said.

Morning Baubro
KYS Costacucky

>>215105546
All the samefag allegations yet he proved the other day he doesn't even know the definition of samefagging. He thinks it's something entirely different kek

>>215105546
>>215105770
should be gayfag allegations instead because you're all gay fags lol

>>215105905
Trueeeeeeee. I apologize on behalf of my improper use of the term "samefagging", cause from now on I'll say "gayfagging" as it is a more accurate description of y'all niggas. Sorry for not using the pronouns correctly, waifubros.

what up /film/, don't forget to drop a like and a follow;

https://letterboxd.com/dingoatemybabi/film/cairo-station/

>>215106507
Kill yourself, Dingo.

>>215106539
see;
>>215104971

>>215106539
t. virgin

RIP Bruce Lee RIP Yusaku Matsuda RIP Brandon Lee

>>215103719
>>215103980
the Western Europe chart is still in progress. I've been very busy IRL, so I haven't had much time to work on it. that plus the new Android update for Letterboxd has made my research process much more tedious because I can't use the app and the mobile browser experience isn't much better, so that's kind of killed my enthusiasm. also, grouping France, Germany, and the UK all together was probably a bad idea. this chart will be massive. I'll still get it done, and the rest of the regions, but I'm not going to be doing North America next as was originally planned. I'll do either Central or South America next followed by the Caribbean because they should all be smaller

/film/ fuckery aside, I just got word the new Queen Kelly restoration is finally out. Is it on KG yet?

>>215108301
did they find more of the film? the version I watched years ago was incomplete

Just let it go bruh ...it's over

Honestly I can't imagine being the "we're all here" guy.
Having to bump the thread every 40 minutes, every day, 24/7, like that bunker guy from Lost.
How nolife can you be?

>>215108530
You say that but the last thread archived early.

We're all nolifers here.

>>215108530
I used to be that kinda guy in the early days of /film/, but I would always try to either ask a question or post a still/webm from a film instead of just blindly bumping. I don't care that much anymore though, and will just let the thread die if there is no engagement. plus his "we're all here" posts just makes me want to intentionally kill the threads to spite him

what's the /film/ consensus on cairo station? i thought it was stylistically a Hollywood Pre-Code melodrama, with more modern camera techniques. Definitely worth watching. watching adieu bonaparte next

>>215108598
He forgot because he was in the middle of a gooning sesh

We're all storytellers here.

We're all in the middle of a gooning sesh here.

Thanks to the anon who uploaded The Wind in the other thread by the way

Watching bad movies can even be fun. But nothing beats a good movie. Watching De Palma's old movies, and they're all bangers. I can't understand most of the criticism levelled at him.

I watched Viy last night it was very cool. You guys probably don't have cool niche taste like me.

you think one year of watching De Palma flicks entitles you to plow the riches of /film/'s Emersonian mind?

>>215111119
What the heck am I looking at?

>>215103563 (OP)
I was watching Sisters and I kept wondering if Carrie wasn't one thing. What would have become of De Palma's career if Carrie had flopped and some of his more experimental projects had succeeded? Because he kind of got pigeonholed into genre cinema. Not that he doesn't love genre cinema. But Sisters felt more like French New Wave than Hollywood.

>>215111146
>What the heck am I looking at?
I reserve my time for someone who can THINK

thread *STOP*

of course, the best comic based on a Coppola film still is

First film that comes to mind when you hear "controlled chaos"?

>>215111248
From New Hollywood, guys. Coppola was by far the most pretentious, or at least the most vocal about it. I remember him trashing The Godfather and Dracula in the audio commentaries.

>>215111341
Funnily enough, Apocalypse Now

>>215111341
the dark knight rises

>>215111062
>>215111188
Based. More De Palma discussion please.

I did not expect this to veer into a 'The Day the Earth Stood Still' type moral of the story where humanity is destroyed because we failed to rise above our nature. But on what basis is this decision really made? The main character's cruelty? They openly admitted to making his life hell until he fucking snapped. What can anyone really expect?

Any class reading is kinda undercut, because the whole idea of the aliens doing shitty stuff to us is justified by the idea they are trying to cure us of genetic defects that make us cruel. I wonder how the American remake will handle that.

While I expect that the OG film will remain stylistically superior to the remake, I really do think the thematic points of the story can be cleaned up a lot. As cringe as it is how Hollywood does these garden variety eat the rich films, I really feel this story almost begs for a more class oriented message.

Endtroducing...

>>215111818
Always loved the Prince of Darkness (1987) sample in that

>>215111790
They're going to make the movie about race. Since Hollywood doesn't know how to make movies about poor people. It's interesting that early Hollywood was all about that.

>>215111929
How would it be about race? Everyone in it is white, and from what I can tell, the upcoming movie is really about Plemons vs Stone.

>>215111983
I didn't know about that movie. Now, are they going to portray aliens as Western deities? Since in the OG they are based on Eastern deities.

>>215112062
This alien shit be kinda lit.

bump

>>215111341
Scum
A Clockwork Orange
Tetsuo

Luis Buñuel on the director's chair, circa the early 70s. Shelley Duvall as Oedipa. That would be my ideal casting.

>>215114252
Kudos to you for wirting the eñe with an ñ.

>>215114976
The literature Nobel is dropping in a few hours, so I'm manifesting some energy towards a Pynchon win (though it likely won't happen).

Dead ass thread.

What the fuck happened to this place, honest question? Waifufagging? We should just settle on picrel

>>215116846
What do you mean by settle on pic rel? Anyways, I just got over /film/.
I don't need it anymore for either commentary, laughs or learning about cinema, because I feel I am already good enough with what I know about kino and this general became complete shit due to the three faggots that fancy themselves the lords of 4chan.

Breeditte Bardot

>>215108301
Not yet, but I'll keep an eye out.

>>215117986
i THINK SHE AND CHANTAL GOYA ARE THE ONLY MUSES FROM THAT ERA THAT ARE STILL KICKING

Oops I forgot to turn off my capslock, my bad

This Matroska video is brought to you by The Fag Puffin', Ass Pettin', Bobby Blockin', Godard Gobblin' Raped Revolutionary of /film/

Thou Shalt Not Kill (1961)

At the end of World War II, a French pacifist is arrested for refusing to fight. In prison, he befriends a German priest arrested for murder of a French Resistance fighter. They discuss morality, obedience, and religion.

The French government refused to help financing the movie because of its pacifist anti-war message, since France was at the time heavily involved in the bloody Algerian War of independence. The budget was finally secured when the Yugoslavian government agreed to pitch in. The movie premiered at the 1961 Venice Film Festival as a Yugoslavian entry, since the French government still wanted nothing to do with it and eventually banned the release of the film in France until 1963, a year after the Algerian War had ended. The French press gave the movie mostly poor reviews.

https://gofile.io/d/dL2Pzq

omg those twinkfags are so insufferable
>>215118987
taking everything way too seriously.

>>215103563 (OP)
>>215119013

>>215119216
Godfather 2 sucks and ruins the list

>>215119216
5/5
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5/5
3.5/5
4/5
-
-
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4/5
-
4/5
5/5
4.5/5
5/5
Godfather 2 rocks and saves the list.

>>215119328
>Godfather 2 rocks
Bait

>>215119193
Gay love is the only serious love, anon.

>>215119335
Not even, actually: it's maybe my most watched movie of all time. It also barely mogs Godfather 1.

>>215116846
>Waifufagging?
Half of us don't even post in here anymore though… I know we're an easy target for constantly floundering threads during these rough times but if anything, they'd die even quicker without us engaging. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

>>215119660
>Half of us don't even post in here anymore though…
There's still work to do.

>>215119711
Obsessed.

>>215106507
>Warfare
>2 Stars
>Jurassic World Rebirth
>4 Stars
What a fag lmao.

>>215111081
I watched this in the middle of the night last year and fell asleep 3 times during it lol

>>215120859
warfare is shit, i should have given it 1 star. jurassic world rebirth, on the other hand, is a tautly paced thrill ride with great setpieces and dinosaurs.

CUTE

RIP Paolo Bonacelli (Salò, Midnight Express, Caligula, Mission Impossible III)

The talent behind Bela Tarr just won the Nobel Prize for Literature

>>215122479
is this an "The Artist (Formerly Known as Prince)" situation or something

>>215122497
No. László Krasznahorkai the guy Tarr collaborates with on almost every movie

These movies are Nobel Prize caliber

>>215122479
continuing a fine tradition of awarding the Nobel to drek-producers. i do love War and War though

>>215122663
are there other Nobel prize winners who also wrote screenplays?

LMAO imagine if England was real

>>215111081
I watched it last night too, what a coincidence. It was described as "horror" but it's actually a dark comedy. I should've known since it's based on a short story by Gogol. Pretty nice watch.

>>215122760
lots, from the top of my head:
Peter Handke
Kazuo Ishiguro
Dario Fo
Hemingway
Faulkner
Jose Saramago
Mario Vargas Llosa
I think Camus did write some movie adaptation of his plays

>>215122864
William Golding, García Márquez, Sartre, Eugene O'Neill, that korean woman who won last year, Camilo José Cela, Harold Pinter...

Best works of BelaTarrbros, we won a nobel prize. Sad Bela Tarr is now insane

>>215122857
Viy is Evil Dead for /film/ viewers.

>>215111081
beautifully lit and lensed

Went to a small screening. Shoutout to the projectionist who let me see the DCP system and how large the file was that I just watched. It was 167gb for a 100 minute joint

this looks promising

>>215125361
It’s really good. Like an 8.4/10

>>215123253
He's an insanely decent filmmaker, you mean.

>>215119346
i know

>>215117502
>three faggots that fancy themselves the lords of 4chan
Literally who

>>215126182
Eeny, Meeny, Miny and Moe

>>215127187
Sure, Pablo.

Only 112 posts? Fucking grim

>>215127702
let it die let it die let it shrivel up and

there was a french ? film about a guy using an old revolver to kill his coworkers/boss
He hypes himself up in the woods, then drives to the house of one of them, calls him outside and, as the coworker leans into the window, the guy shoots him point blank and hurts his hand due to recoil.

Then he goes shopping and stares at a high precision rifle at a gun store.
Early 00's? The guy looked like Alfred Molina. Been trying to find it for ages.

>>215128367
The Ax directed by Costa-Garvas, i think the victim in the scene you're describing was a woman.
It's based on a book which this year has been also adapted into a movie by Park Chan Wook - No Other Choice.

Finna watch the Amores perros restoration at the Plex today; last watched it when I was 10 years old. I hate hyperlink cinema a la Tarantino. Will it suck? Will it be good? God only knows.

>>215128367
this guy?

>>215128706
>>215128723
damn, it was that easy, thank you. Didn't recall Garcia's face at all.
Have a car I saw the other day

>>215128717
have fun

anyone seen this? worth watching?

>>215125914
No
>László Krasznahorkai
>"about his collaboration with filmmaker Béla Tarr, who has adapted almost all of his novels: “I threatened to stop writing so he would stop making films, because we were repeating ourselves.”
>Not a new movie since 2015
Krasznahorkai buckbrocken Tarr and he refuse to make movies now

>>215128933
Will it mog Mishima? I think it's possible, yes.

>>>/lit/24785512
>Tsai
>Von Trier
>Joe
>more important than Tarr

>The film was shot on 35mm VistaVision by three-time Oscar winner Emmanuel Lubezki and, according to Iñárritu, will be released “sometime next fall.”
What's with hacks and vistavision?

>>215129853
Most important filmmaker alive is Tarantino, not even capping.

>>215129903
Give a list of VistaVision hacks, if you please.

>>215129979
Spielberg is definitely more 'important' than Tarantino

>>215129992
That's true historically speaking, but his legacy is fading amongst the newer generations, while Tino's just keeps growing...

>>215129979
>Give a list of VistaVision hacks, if you please.
M. Night Shyamalan
Alejandro G. Iñárritu
Emerald Fennell
Greta Gerwig
Yorgos Lanthimos
Paul Thomas Anderson

>>215130633
Fair
Fair
-
Fair
Nah
Nah

what's the /film/ consensus on Anchors Aweigh?

Just fapped to Brooke.

>>215132055
from what year?

stop going into other threads and shittalking me you insane haters

>>215132119
1985 minus 10

>>215132055
Good for you; that dick's gonna bleed.

>>215132199
quit being an obnoxious faggot, dingo

>>215132360
i'm not being an obnoxious faggot you retard

>>215132360
Shut up.

>>215132400
You're never not being one, you obnoxious faggot. Kill yourself.

>>215132484
Talk to us about your physiognomy and relate it to a movie. I bet you look, sound and act like Woody Allen.

>>215132484
that's a mirror you're talking to

we are all in the letterboxd thread or at ballet class

Just watched and loved the 1925 Phantom of the Opera. Can anyone suggest good, dark silent/black and white horror movies?

>>215128717
Innaruto is worse than Tarantula. Birdmin is a masterpiece of vulgar auteurism and bad taste

>>215133511
Check out everything else with Lon Chaney. The Unknown (1927), He Who Gets Slapped, Freaks (which was originally meant to have Lon Chaney in it), etc.

>>215128963
Man from London was the only repetitive one. Did he filter his fucking self with turino horse?

>>215133511
Vampyr is a classic, but you've seen it. Check out I Walked With a Zombie, Dementia or The Old Dark House.

>>215129903
Vista vision is just the new gimmick. It really means nothing because filmmakers don’t use technicolor anymore so it is an absolute worthless enterprise but modern film workers like Paul Tom Anderson don’t seem to understand film aesthetic and still just leave it all to the DoP who lights it for the producer.

>>215130633
>>215130666
All of them nah. None of them understand film aesthetic. Vv needs technicolor or else the effect is worthless. It’s like running chaos turbo only trying to rely on a BLS without a Chaos Sorc or two.

>>215133511
The 16mm for this is for sale on eBay just fyi

>>215133893
What is even the VistaVision "effect"? I noticed Poor Things looked really pretty in the Plex, but I don't even know if that film used VistaVision or nah haha
>Chaos Turbo
I think running at least 2 Sorcs is necessary for turbo, but for others decks like warriors 1 BLS without Sorcs is optimal.

>>215130979
/film/ is leaking...

Does anyone else agree that the ending of Good Time is a pretty bad one for Nick?

Connie was destructive, and any plan to take charge of Nick long term was probably unrealistic.

Yet, I think it is clear the situation Nick finds himself in the end may even be worse. He is treated like a baby retard not capable of anything, while Connie always treated him like a real person. One could even view his reasoning to bring Nick on the heist is to boost Nick's self-esteem by including him, as insane as it sounds. Pattinson makes a strong statement to Nick that he couldn't have done it without him.

>>215123591
Unironically yes

Any of you fucks have watched Tokyo Trash Baby? Seems pretty interesting based on the plot. It's about a woman stalking a motherfucker and imagining his personality based on his trash.

>>215134685
I can fix her

>>215134681
i wasn't memeing. it used to be in my top 150 movies.

>>215134747
I once was stalked by a woman and I fell in love with her. Only RNs will relate.

>>215132484
Out of orbit.

>>215134916
Stop choking on dick for one second, goddamn.

>>215134347
Poor Things looked pretty because the cinematography was very heavy on the lighting which is always nice too bad the film itself is mediocre everywhere else.

I was talking specifically about chaos turbo. Plenty of decks don’t even need BLS I am just saying why play chaos turbo without sorcs, that is the same as VV without TC

>>215134935
I think Poor Things was good. Yeah, I know, I was just commenting on the fact that some decks like BLS only.

>>215134927
Your projection is out of this word, Cucksta.

>>215134992
Yes, out of this word. Were you the guy with the lisp?

>>215135040
Who?

>>215135108
Cucksta Freaka?

>>215135108
The guy that confuses words like "word" with "world" and accuses people of projecting while being essentially a human movie theater from the amount of projection that he does?

>>215135141
Again, who?

>>215135180
Mr. Underage w/ Liver Damage
Mr. 5'6 60 Lbs White Belt in Karate
Mr. Poobstache
Mr. Transitioning While Transphobic

All good movies and very recommended.

>>215134758
What kind of lensing is required for something to make it in your top 150?

>>215135420
oh it's not all lensing to make it into my top 150. i have it at 155 in my top 500;

https://letterboxd.com/dingoatemybabi/list/the-top-500-movies-of-all-time-incomplete/page/2/

Interesting song choice from Lanthimos.
https://youtu.be/1RKqOmSkGgM?si=Wb__j7DzMA5lW115

>>215133511
I will be seeing this with live organ later soon.

>>215116846
I would like to see more visuals from this scene.

>>215135679
You can probably find the scene online. It's kino but too short.

i'm gonna fucking do it

>>215135978
Do a flip, Dingo.

>>215135994
The day I stop shit-talking Dingo will be the day he stops advertising his Letterboxd.

>>215135621
It's a great song.

>>215136482
It is has been stuck in my head for sure. I really Bugonia is good.

>>215136992
really hope*

>>215137206
liked #blessed #dingonation

Which gialli are your favourites?

i believe a creator should use certain tools to make things interesting
the absense of elements can be very powerfull than the presense ofthem
for example when nolan uses no sound or music in interstellar explosion it makes the scene more powerfull than other movies with lots of explosions noise etc. same deal when in memento he is removing the color to make an impact compared to the color scenes
generally the idea of long slow takes without too many cuts can work and be powerfull in certain cases. less can be more when u want to expose the reality or the inner world of the protagonist. it can elevate tension and the suspence

what i cant stand is a creator to use such tricks for absolutely no particular reason just to provoke or just cauze he can
just cauze the mainstream system of holywood wants more and more and the movies strive for more cuts more dialog more sound and more lightning doesnt mean its nececery a bad thing. people like aggelopoylos and i assume this movie as well decide to take a different route just to be antiestablishment. people that act like autistic cauze directors dont want to force the act like in theatre. cameras that are stable for 15 mins cauze noone wants to bother to cut useless things out. sure i dont like most marvel crap as well and i am tired of all these effects and mindless acting and cuts but the idea that i am gonna make a movie that is the opposite isnt enough. just becauze u are negative about the establishment and remove all the establishment elements doesnt provide something positive. the absense of something in this case leaves just nothing

>>215138308
Suspiria, Opera, Phenomena, Sei donne per l'assassino

>>215138805
Use proper capitalization, you fucking degenerate.

Who's the Bach of film?

>>215139112
Woody Allen

>>215134789
So fucking true. Happens all the time at work
T: a registered nurse

>>>/wsg/5994148
>>>/wsg/5994151
>>>/wsg/5994153
>>>/wsg/5994158

Watching Cat People in kinskibro's memory right now. RIP in peace.

>>215140240
Fuck him and fuck you.

>>215140240
:(

>>215140275
Have you no respect for the dead, Dingster?

Is it okay to watch Jigoku without context or should I watch some other japanese horror flicks first?

>>215140368
I will piss all over their grave, idiot.

>>215140368
That's Cucksta. Dongo doesn't use proper capitalization on /tv/.

>>215140629
And you're dying, like in Goodfellas.

>>215140651
Don't think it's going away, like Tarantino said. You took a decision and now you stand by it - Reservoir Dogs. I just threw a whole lot of burned fat down the drain.

Holy kino

>Peter Wollen was a gigamidwit the entire time
And I wasted time reading that dork. This shit is actually making me rethink The Passenger, which Wollen co-wrote.

From the hit film "A Bucket of Blood"

WAN FLOO OVA DA CUKOOSNEST

>>215103563 (OP)
SARAH GADON WONT STOP WINNING

buckets of rain, buckets of tears
got all the buckets coming out of my ears

/film/

>>215142719
Wypipo HATE being called out for human failings of they fellow wytes while trynna punish any other groups for they human failings. Sheesh dey sum blind fools mane

>>215142719
>Black Man in Feudal Japan good
>Black man in American South bad

>>215111081
I really disliked the main monk character. I actually hated him, all he had to do was do his job but he was too busy getting drunk and that cost him dearly, he lost not one but two souls. I just take that kind of stuff to seriously and can't enjoy it as a comedy, like where's the funny? Just remove the dark comedy aspect and play it straight, not tongue in cheek, make the film a serious, cautionary folk-horror. Otherwise the message gets obscured by the cartoon-like end result.

>>215142719
more /film/

>>215142719
>NIGGERS WERE SO HECKIN' OPRESSED DURING RECONSTRUCTION!!!
they actually never had it so good, look up what the white terror was

The history of special effects is the history of cinema. For that I weep realizing that Eisenstein did not live to see Tron, Who Framed Roger Rabbit and the Nintendo Entertainment System.

>the canon will be decided by the history of special effects, not your cinematography still frames that hang in a museum
>the entire 1950s arthouse and on is a detour under the false presumption that cinema exists in the painting tradition not the vaudeville tradition

The correction of the cinema canon is causing so much butthurt among /film/ that it can scarcely be believed. The top ten films of the last cenutry has no Antonioni, Robert Bresson, or Lars von Trier in sight.

1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
2. A Trip to the Moon
3. The Golden Voyage of Sinbad
4. Star Wars
5. Tron
6. Blade Runner
7. Who Framed Roger Rabbit
8. Batman (Dir. Tim Burton)
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
10. The Polar Express

>>215144764
>The Golden Voyage of Sinbad
why this and not 7th voyage. why not even gwangi which probably has the best sfx of anything harryhausen did

add;
the 10th commandment
the wizard of oz
the blue bird 1940
thief of baghdad
war of the worlds
planet of the vampires
viy
2001
jaws
alien
altered states
dragonslayer
escape from new york
blade runner
hercules
and too many more to list

>>215142923
This but unironically.

I want to watch a film by Nobuhiko Obayashi. I see His Motorbike, Her island is rated fairly high, is this the one I should start with?

watching slop, feeling intellectual

>>215146508
His 80's stuff is largely solid, a nice place to start. His 2010's work is transcendental and reflective.

>>215145282
Kubrick is the god of all man-babies, the Robert Eggers of the 1970s. I would place Silent Running over 2001: A Space Odyssey, which also has advanced special effects and science fiction themes, without any of the Bela Tarr, "this film belongs in the MUSEUM OF CINEMA!!!" pretension.

FUCK that shit.

>escape from new york

Yes. YES. That is fucking art, not Werckmeister Harmonies, shove that Nobel Peace Prize up your ass

>>215147370
2001 literally pioneered motion control, it probably did other stuff but that alone off the top of my head is enough to make it groundbreaking
>Silent Running
just had dwarves in weird costumes lol
>escape from new york
that's mostly for the glow in the dark miniatures thing they did for the computer graphics

>>215146963
Darren Aronofsky was Robert Eggers before Robert Eggers emerged. But Robert Eggers is the final point on a continuum of the 'master auteur who makes EPIC museum pieces' genre. This continuum began with Stanley Kubrick, achieving fanaticism with Generation X (David Fincher, Gasper Noe, Lars Von Trier, Darren Aronofsky, PTA), before it finally achieved self parody with the millennial generation (Ari Aster, Damien Chazelle and the god king of this genre, Robert Eggers) These films are only concerned with seeming as important as possible, often utilizing a series of painterly images to contrast the ugly violence, sexuality, the bleak human nature on display.

This offers critics a justification for their career that cinema is an ""important artform"". This offers viewers an exchange of social proof in exchange for a ticket sale, they are no longer watching a film, they are partaking in a cult for Reddit upvotes (Reddit famously had to ban all mentions of David Fincher on r/movies because the circlejerk had gotten too immense. Zoomers were unable to have a coherent discussion anywhere without talking about him. This of course has now shifted into Robert Eggers fanaticism.) Compared to a good Robert Zemeckis special effects extravaganza, a classic Walt Disney cartoon, or a Clint Eastwood good guys bad guys shootout, none of these films will remain relevant.

>>215146963
it's shit but i liked the little russian guy

>>215147583
Armond is that you?

>>215147256
>transcendental and reflective.

>>215111294
>>215111119
>>215111248
Interesting how if you turn bad movies into comics you can't really tell anymore

>>215147691
I look like this and say the truth

>>215142923
It's actually just subhuman conservatives that should go to the gas chamber for humanity's sake.

Kino

>After the Hunt glorifies predatory culture.

>After the Hunt should be satire. The white-on-black introductory credits demand comparison to Woody Allen at his most laughably solemn, the sanctimonious atmosphere invites derision, while the intramural sexual animosity parodies Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Still, almost immediately, the film resists poking fun at bourgeois pretensions. It enters the overrefined territory of Todd Field’s Tár.

>It’s hard to know how to take this combination of poison-pen intrigue, private panic, and popular issues. One’s puzzlement is compounded by similarities to the Anita Hill–Clarence Thomas catastrophe, memories of David Mamet’s Oleanna, and recent campus turmoil. It’s all implicit in Garrett’s conceit; she draws us deeper into current anxieties, yet nothing gets clarified.

>Through Alma (who, suffering from a tormented past and physical ailments, self-medicates with liquor and drugs), the film encourages us to sympathize with a soul troubled by her own hyper intelligence. After this supposition — that the smartest people in the world are in conflict with their human frailties — the filmmakers refuse to hold the nation’s elite accountable for making the world miserable.

>When the larcenous, pampered, nose-ringed Maggie plays the race card, then the non-binary card (replete with her post-op trans lover, Lío Mehiel), Garrett’s story gets entangled in its own topicality. In the film’s best scene, Alma is cornered by a gang of students defending Maggie, screaming “We want accountability!” The campus termagants are obese, disabled, or trans — easily caricatured like the Zoomer swarm in One Battle After Another. Later, Alma gets off a sharp riposte, “Don’t you have some obscure protest to be publicly angry at?” Not a good line, but you know her feeling.

>>215150475
>Guadagnino’s empathy for upper-class agony (I Am Love, A Bigger Splash, Call Me by Your Name, Queer) feels intimate, but he doesn’t go all the way. He employs some elegant narrative trickery: blurred focus, overheard off-screen direction (“Cut!”), and an ironizing atonal music score. Yet, instead of closer analysis, Garrett’s slick script shies away from the exposé she sets up. Accused of being aloof and impenetrable by her porn-addicted husband, Alma confesses her own failings and hypocrisy, and regrets that her “rottenness was seen” before she could “expunge it.” Such wordplay inflates and trivializes everything the film was meant to reveal.

>It all comes down to the very egotistical class defensiveness the film ought to explicate. Alma and Maggie anticipate mutual fealty and then misconstrue it. Roberts’s aged, drawn look contrasts with Edebiri’s callow insensitivity, but both modern types are predatory and repellant (as if Garrett poised Ibsen’s Hedda Gabler against Ibsen’s Nora). They struggle with understanding and forgiving each other, but shared victimhood (“Higher education is run by white men”) ultimately distances them — from each other, from others, and from us.

>Todd Solondz’s groundbreaking Storytelling comes to mind in an early classroom scene when Guadagnino and Garrett initiate a philosophical question: “What determines the moral worth of a nation?” But the Ivy League narcissism in After the Hunt provides no answer.

>>215103563 (OP)
Genuine morally complex courtroom kino

>>215150475
>>215150535
midwit nigger who flanderized his writing for National Review

>>215146508
He, like all Japanese directors in the 80s are massively overrated. In Japan you make a "thing" that is praised by westerners, then you are their living god forever. You make a "thing" that is praised by Japanese, then you are nothing. Their entire purpose and existence is just to be praised by Americans.

Hey /film/, I'm agonisingly close to uploading my Mishima translation to be spread about. Can anyone who looked at my subs before check this version out and tell me if they think the subtitle timings are adequate or still too short? Sooner it gets the okay or not, the better.

https://mega.nz/file/SwgSCbpR#6ETrnVZ2JxvuuMqVDbAH9_aPFSmp_7zFfKQ-Vcf9nik

>>215151374
synced to the Criterion, as before, btw

test

necrobumping is ok when i do it

>finally relisten to Trout Mask Replica
>can't even tell Charlottebro because he left a month ago

>>215152507
Good.

WHEN BIG JOAN SETS UP
HER HANDS ARE TOO SMALL

>>215152751
>muh only feel hatred for everything
Kill yourself.

I miss all the fuannies.

>>215153530
Harembro is quite active on /hor/.

Well, Out 1 was fucking shit. You could have told me.

>>215153708
I tried to tell you telepathically. Seems it failed.So now let me openly advise you to not waste any more time with Rivetter poop pictures.

>>215153708
It's called that because you want Out 1 minute into it

>>215153708
>>215154643
>>215155141
I warned yall last year about it. It is genuinely one of the worst films I have ever seen. Gave up 2.5 episodes in.

I just realized now amongst all this PTA discourse that Inherent Vice is his only exit level film. The only time he truly achieved greatness. Everything else has been entry level with the exception of The Master which was mid level arthouse.

bump to read whoever replied to me before it 404s

Talk niggers

>>215157097
zzzzzz

>>215144344
It's very funny. He's an incorrigible dumbass that teeters between frightful and over-confident. It's probably more gratifying if you're able to pick up on russian social norms.

>>215152507
Well what did you think

I find myself mainly coming back to his late career albums nowadays (Shiny Beast, Doc at the Radar Station), but TMR is pretty iconic

>>215157620
Can't say it clicked for me yet but some parts of it I genuinely enjoyed. I still prefer his more conventional work though (Safe as Milk, Shiny Beast) and I'm surprised more people don't bring up the fact that he quit playing music at 40 to make art.
Relistening to it reminded me of Mr. Bungle, which in turn makes me want to finally check out Desole by Umlaut, a band associated with Mr. Bungle that was mentioned here back when the album dropped in July.

>>215151350
Well then who are the non-overrated directors of Japan then?

Mae Martin, a devoted Gadonbro, is the most popular Actor on IMDB.

>>215160623
>Mae Martin
I remember watching her standup some time ago, it was actually funny and she didn't use any tropes female comedians use as a crutch. She's a qt

>>215160807
>she

I genuinely hope this thread lasts three days.

>>215160870
uh oh, society

>>215160997
Why?

>>215151374
Anyone?

>>215134408
>Implying anyone has watched that movie.

>>215140240
The whole board has unironically felt emptier ever since he's been gone.

>>215161683
What you are feeling is peace now that the plague of coalburner spam has ended.

>Donovan's Reef
What a pleasant and genteel experience. "Nothing really happens", but it works. One of the latest works by Ford, in gorgeous technicolor.

>>215161183
What's the alternative at this point? Having the thread archive early at 300 posts?

>>215162554
Another "resurrection" that is basically indistinguishably right down to the half-assed necrobumps where we don't link the old thread for some reason (as if resurrection somehow entailed no continuity with the prior life).

>>215146963
Every time I see austin butler I'm immediately reminded of his side parts in zoey 101 and ned's declassified. I wonder if that's affected his career.

>>215163106
>where we don't link the old thread for some reason (as if resurrection somehow entailed no continuity with the prior life).
Normally I'd chalk neglecting to link the previous thread up to good ol incompetence but it could also be pettiness. A lazy OP can set the tone for a lazy thread, plus why bring all those links back?

>>215163481
>but it could also be pettiness
Oh, I agree 100% that it is pettiness. My point was that the justification for the link to the old thread being omitted (because this is a "resurrection" edition) would be nonsense even if it were meant sincerely.

>>215153530
I never left. Spot the seven posts I've made in this thread already.

>>215153530
I never left: it's just that I only Queen of /film/ post if I'm here for the beginning of a thread.

You dumb niggers want to see petty I’ll show you faggots petty I’m gonna end the thread in several moments