Thread 215183760

this isn't television, please just buy an ad already

I don't get what the big deal is. If shock collars were so evil and inhumane they wouldn't sell them. Dogs need to be disciplined.

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>>215183760 (OP)
True, Free Palestine

>>215184022
>admits total ignorance
>still shares completely retarded take anyway
Don't know why people do this or why Hasan drones try to pretend they're not defending zaddy.

>>215184022
You can buy a lot of shit that's bad. Or just look to countries with more lose laws.

>>215184022
>Dog must sit as prop for hours on end and if it moves I must discipline it through pain

>>215184047
Noted, your comment has been reported.

>>215184022
>How DARE my dog get off its bed
>PLACE NOW YOU ZIONIST SWINE

>>215184087
>zaddy
Damn you chuds really are all closet cases.

>>215184106
Why are you ascribing malice when there's no proof of it? He could just as easily have a perfectly legitimate reason to keep the dog there but you assume that it must be the worst reason possible. Why? Because he's your political opponent?

>>215184022
>If shock collars were so evil and inhumane they wouldn't sell them
>If pedophilia is so evil and inhumane people wouldn't traffic children
Notice how retarded your logic is?

>>215184153
Shock collars and pedophilia aren’t explicitly evil, it’s the bad ways they can be exercised that makes them become evil depending on the situation .

>>215184152
There are compilations of him getting mad at the dog for moving from the spot. Now suddenly when it does it he reaches off screen and it yelps in pain. He keeps the dog there as a prop and he shocked it Why are you defending someone that behaves like this? Because his political beliefs align with yours?

>>215184207
>Shock collars and pedophilia aren’t explicitly evil

>>215184207
>pedophilia aren’t explicitly evil

>>215184214
NTA and I don’t give a shit about any eceleb but anytime an overblown “controversy” like this years its head I can’t help but feel like it’s just an attempt at updating the mental scorecard of whatever culture war you’re embroiled in. Nobody actually gives a shit about the dog.

I don't know who Hasan is I clicked this thread by mistake

Help this isnr even my board I

Help

>>215184238
>>215184251
Cope and seethe Reddit. There’s nothing evil about it in theory only in practice.

>>215184022
guns are also sold despite being tools for death. Shock collars can be justified for people with huge properties that dont want the dog to go beyond boundaries and thus get itself killed by predators or run over, for the dogs own safety. But people who use them to lazily train their otherwise normal dog in a normal home are lazy and stupid and missing out on a deeper connection with the dog.

>>215184238
>>215184251
He's trolling, there's a clip of Hasan saying the same thing recently, almost word for word, minus the pedophilia

I can’t wait for this turkroachs bullshit e-celeb “career” to crumble like it should have years ago

People really need to stop trying to debate. There is literally no good faith here, these people don't care, their position is simply what is convenient for them at the time and they'll shift any time they have to.
The reality is that you could prove without a shadow of a doubt that Hasan shocks his dog to keep it in place as a background prop for his stream and they still would not care. They do not care. Every assertion otherwise, every time they give an excuse or make a point that is short of that position it exists purely just to waste your time. They do not care.

>>215184022
He didn't even do the shock. His sperging made her fuck up her leg. Faggots don't even train real dogs.

>>215184153
Are children sold on amazon.com and in petco?
>>215184214
How does his anger prove that he keeps the dog there as a prop?

>>215184047
>report threads of my e-daddy being made fun of for using Thunder on his doge
lol. This isn't going away. Moost Critical called him out for zapping his dog. Normies know and they're not happy. These stupid memes are going to be posted forever and ever to mock the dog shocker and there isn't anything he can do to stop it.

>>215184284
>There’s nothing evil about pedophilia
Kindly go kill yourself, thank you.

>>215184290
I’m not trolling I don’t even know who this YouTuber is I’m just here to gatekeep the normalfaggots and freak the squares

>>215184284
Ok Rabbi

>>215184022
Fuck off hasan get rekt retard

>>215184333
>saar I am doing the edgy saar

>>215184022
>If shock collars were so evil and inhumane they wouldn't sell them
you must be 18 to post here

>>215184323
>oh no normiecritikal
>were going to cancel hasan for sure this time guys!
You idiots are so pathetic. Half the people you subscribe to abuse real people.

>>215184264
it actually is
it's also because he can openly be anti jew and theres nothing they can do about it as he doesn't get paid by them

>>215184302
I don’t think anyone sincerely thinks debate changes things. Deep down they know it’s all kayfabe for entertainment (Destiny hangs out with right wing debaters all the time off camera, and vaush as well).
That being said, they outwardly act as if the act of participating in “debate” demonstrates a deeply empathetic and intellectual character. Just look at how people talked about Kirk after he got shot. I don’t think he changed his mind about a single thing of note in the decade+ of “spirited debate” he participated in, except maybe deciding to ally with the Trump arm of the Republican Party.

how can you people freak out of a dog when there is a literal genocide going on

>>215184264
Exactly but there are incels that are basically diehard set on whatever they can cum to that might upset Hasan's success, even though it never sticks.

Shock collars never worked on my dog, sometimes I’d literally have to Vader choke him to calm him down

>>215184415
This but almost unironically. I don’t care what your politics are, the situation is completely abhorrent and you’re either in the pocket of AIPAC or a Christ killer if you can’t even admit that on its face before making any ensuing moral/political conclusions.

>>215184286
That's retarded, every dog is different. You have no idea what the particular circumstances are with this one dog.

>>215184326
He's right though.

Guys, I'm scared Hassan wil beat me up.
help

>>215184313
>How does his anger prove that he keeps the dog there as a prop?
Why else would you get mad at a dog that moves from its designated spot clearly visible in the livestream? Humour me, why do you think he gets angry when the dog moves from the spot?

>>215184441
1 dog is worth more a million humans. Humans suck

>>215184497
How many dogs and cats do you think Israel also killed in tandem with those humans?

>>215184441
Tbh I'd save a doggo vs a bunch of muslims. I don't care about being viewed as a moral person. I save whoever/whatever because I want to.

>>215184497
>>215184518
Reddit morality.

>>215184397
He changed his mind on Israel, towards the end.

>>215184546
According to the alleged chat logs he didn’t even really change his opinions, and if he did it definitely wasn’t because of debate. It was because that sweet sweet Israel money was drying up.

>>215184557
Hmmm, a honest post.

>>215184545
Just admit you're a pedophile, it's okay. Because we all know you're a pedophile.

>>215184381
I have no idea what you're talking about. You're defending the son of a billionaire who seems to use a shock collar to make his young dog stay on a small platform for hours at a time.

>>215184584
It’s very funny to say this to me, a guy who doesn’t inherently value animal life over human life because of some misanthropic tendencies based in self-loathing, and not to the guy posting borderline pizza.

>>215184465
We need to just ban India from the internet.

>>215184545
>thread has nothing to do with pitbulls
>bring them up anyway as a call to consensus as a smokescreen for your small browngroid zoosadism
Like clockwork.

>>215184441
The so-called "genocide" (seems like exaggerated numbers, probably typhus outbreaks) in Unincorporated Israel has nothing personally to do with me and it seems like despite all the complaining this board did, a hard-handed approach was what was necessary to bring these terrorists to the bargaining table and achieve greater piece.

>>215184634
It’s a reductio ad absurdum to placing dogs on an inherent moral pedestal. Cry me a river.

>>215184458
Youre right, the vague unspecific circumstances you are not divulging vindicate your position, how inconsiderate of me to not think of the mysterious conditions that negate what I said.

>>215184610
/tv/ has been a pro pedo board longer before jeets started flooding in and long before we replaced chink complaining with jeet complaining

>>215184644
>piece

>>215184634
Except he has a history of pitbull ownership.

>>215184609
>Yes, I am a pedophile
Yes, we know

>>215184584
Not him, but I am

>>215184264
>Nobody actually gives a shit about the dog.
Some people actually have this weird thing called compassion for animals in pain. Even more so if they have a pet. Not everyone is a souless retard like you.

>>215184670
Dogs are on a moral pedestal on account of being innocents. You're just autistic and not white.
>>215184681
Pedophilia is jeet sexuality, always has been even before people knew it. All under the umbrella of small brownery and third worldism.
/tv/faggots thought it was cool and edgy, now they're very aware that they are spiritually jeets.

>>215184754
>Pedophilia is jeet sexuality, always has been even before people knew it. All under the umbrella of small brownery and third worldism.
>/tv/faggots thought it was cool and edgy, now they're very aware that they are spiritually jeets.
Then whats up with your post history of ss faggotry?

>>215184752
You're replying to a bad faith Hasan drone brother, why bother?
This shit happened in front of everyone's eyes, nobody who is aware of it needs to be convinced otherwise, and those that do never will be.

>>215184752
Are you volunteering at the humane society like me then, nigga?
>>215184754
>Dogs are on a moral pedestal on account of being innocents
This demonstrates to me that you really don’t respect or understand dogs. You view them as pure little snowflakes because you have a child’s understanding of morality and the world.

>>215184681
Ngl she's cute. Who is she?

>>215184821
Gabby. No idea what the full name is though

>>215184810
Dogs are creatures that exist outside of morality ergo they are innocent.
Innocent by the way doesn't mean incapable of doing things that are destructive or undesirable. Literally the same way it works with children nigger.

>>215184795
I don't know what you mean saar

>>215184852
>Gabby
Can't find her on google. Does she have a social media account?

>>215184881
>Dogs are creatures that exist outside of morality ergo they are innocent
And why therefore must we place them in a position where one of their lives is worth a million human lives? Why is the suffering of one creature that is incapable of operating within the same systems of reasoning, complex emotion, and morality as humanity worse than the suffering of thousands of people? I am also deeply upset at how wounded and mistreated the animals I work with are. I would still not act as if I value them more than my fellow man.

Was a fan of Valya myself, back in the day.

>>215184797
You’re right. It just amazes me what people let Hasan get away with. I dont know if his audience is incredibly young or what

>>215184920
I never said you should.

>>215184933
Well you jumped in to the middle of a convo with an anon who said as much so pardon my confusion

>>215184022
dogs are so obedient shock collars are only used by low iq retards

>>215184925
This ironically be the thing he doesn't get away with, which is very funny.
I actually have no issue with shock collars, particularly on giant dogs, because you typically need to be a little more extreme with them given their size
I might've even said it was based if he just shocked the dog and told everyone to fuck off
But instead he panicked and lied, and this will be what destroys him. Most of his audience could stomach rape allegations over animal abuse.

>>215184925
>I dont know if his audience is incredibly young or what
Don't underestimate the power of parasocial relationships. They're what drives swifties to harass and spam on social media in a coherent manner

>>215184906
I actually don't remember since waifuist moved and they had a list of people you couldn't post and she was one of them. mp4 related is her slightly older sister too

>>215184925
They're mostly unemployed middle aged gay men as it so happens.
Culture war shit has never been about facts or morality, it has always been about moral grandstanding. It's just bible thumping for the current year.
Inherently to follow someone like Hasan you have to have no real values whatsoever, which is why nothing will ever come out that removes his core audience.
Hasan's defeat comes when he is kept from becoming palatable to normal people. He is a classical insecure narcissist and as such is a slave to perception. He will self-destruct if the mainstream ever turns on him.

>>215184022
brown detected

>>215184970
Even if you agree with the use of collars he is clearly misusing it multiple ways.
Shock collars are completely unnecessary in most cases and completely abusive when used incorrectly which is exactly what is happening.

>>215184415
Trump singlehandedly stopped the genocide, nigga. Do you live under a rock?