Thread 215216766

>>215216766 (OP)
It was, the capacity to hold and process such huge amounts of information only came about in the last 15 years or so.

>>215216822
You wouldn’t call the guy worrying about his castle’s walls 15 years before the cannon was invented “paranoid”

Everyone was lulled into a sense of security because the government wasn’t allowed to keep lists of books people checked out at the library (not at an individual level anyway). They skirted around this by keeping lists on virtually everything else and muh private corporashuns and muh terms of service. It should all be struck down by the courts and the only data a company should be allowed to keep longer than 30 days is your username and password.

>>215216884
He WOULD still be paranoid because the thing he's worried about objectively doesn't exist.
He's just right to be paranoid. Being paranoid doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong.

>>215216766 (OP)

It's okay this is the guy in charge and he's up to speed with One Piece lore.

>>215217130

And this guy is his second in command. So as you can see we're in safe hands.

>>215217130
What is it about handling money that makes people go insane? It's basically a storage locker but for currency, but they all eventually develop delusions of grandeur.

>>215216766 (OP)
I liked the one where he said the Red Cross were harvesting organs and using them as pizza toppings

>>215217183
I agree with that man.

>>215217418
People who "made it" in the tech boom are just randos that happened to have one of the companies that made it big. For every one of them there were tens of thousands of others that simply bet on the wrong company.
iirc he initially had $1500 in paypal stock which is now valued at like $2bln.
Then every other investment was like ... with a loan based on the valuation of that stock and people trusting him.
All it take is a couple of key decisions that play out in a huge way and this guy is now telling you how it is.

>>215216822
>It was, the capacity to hold and process such huge amounts of information only came about in the last 15 years or so.
It did. It was just ungodly expensive. The NSA currently stores 1 yottabyte, which is 1,000 zettabytes or 1 million exabytes of personal data, communications, other transactions and records.

Much of the data is encrypted and ureadable even to them, so they'e been hoarding it for decades at a cost of trillions with the expectation that quantum computing will eventually allow them to decrypt it all at once.

https://www.techdirt.com/2013/06/21/nsa-has-convinced-fisa-court-that-if-your-data-is-encrypted-you-might-be-terrorist-so-itll-hang-onto-your-data/

>>215217125
Noddan argument.

>>215216766 (OP)
It will collapse.
Every single nation that has ever tried to force a dystopian police state has fallen.
Yes, we are witnessing nations in the present time that are currently getting away with it, but understand that history has something to say about these present nations. They will crumble.

>>215216822
>>215217831
It's kinda crazy how these things come into fruition too. I lived with a guy who was doing some graduate research project at UofMichigan in the early/mid 2000s and according to him their task was basically the precursor to contact tracing. Apparently back then it was sold as something companies could use at job fairs and such rather than having to shar business cards, their phones would auto connect to lanyards or whatever.. That was the justification since there were a few already raising ethical concerns.

>>215216822
Retard faggot

>>215216766 (OP)
I yelled at everyone that sooner or later, everything they did was going to be recorded on video. Everyone laughed. BTW their were 108 cameras, in the Lincoln Tunnel, alone.

>>215217853
Really kinda proved the reddit allegation with this one pogchamp

>>215217085
paranoia and anger are not only legitimate emotions but probably the most legitimate emotions. Modern gay society is the way it is for discounting this.

>>215218449
nod
and
argument

>>215218181
I had a buddy who got into "medical infomatics" and I asked him in like 2015 "doesn't this violate like HIPPA and shit" and he just nervously shrugged it off.

Peak /tv/ humor

>>215218481
idek what that is or what it means it sounds like Reddit. Don’t strawman my sealioning whataboutism appeal to my authority pls

>>215217183

that man is a slimy cocksucker and anyone would be a fool to trust him

>>215218751
Why did you capitalize reddit? Curious!

>>215217085
Fear that results from paranoia is by definition unfounded. So no, being paranoid DOES in fact mean you're wrong. If you're afraid of something that comes to pass, it's not called paranoia, it's called foresight.

>>215216986
That would do away with the entire social media system though. They make their money selling your private data.

>>215218817
So it's unreasonable, bordering on insanity, to call anyone paranoid for anything that has any chance of happening?

>>215218817
It was unfounded. At the time. Mass consumer surveillance wasn't feasible. Knowing whether someone's thoughts will change from paranoia to foresight would require future sight, so we might as well just not use the word "paranoid" ever.

>>215217183
What a fucking creep, my God.

>>215219142
Capitalists and techie types at the time said they wanted to do all of that and had projections for how long it might take to do it.

>>215219317
They say a lot of things that don't come to pass, mostly because they're too focused on short term stock value increases. And if they're outright stating they don't have these capabilities yet, then it's objectively unfounded because it's not yet occurring and wouldn't for over a decade.

>>215217183
Here’s your deep state bro. The monster was in the MAGA house the whole time.

>>215219360
Sure, they always say they'll try to attack and ransack the general public in all kinds of different ways, and then they manage to succeed at some of them. Anyone who says they'll do it in some way that hasn't already happened is called 'paranoid', and if they want to do something to prevent while they're doing things to implement it they're 'dangerously paranoid'.

Even after big data and the kind of abuses that come with it has already been a thing for more than a decade, most people still don't understand why it's such a problem. Years of propaganda about people's concerns being 'paranoia' enable them to keep doing it for longer than they otherwise could have.

>>215219400
The way it works is MAGA and woke only ever agree on things that benefit the deep state, matters like enabling mass surveillance, debanking legislation, hate-speech legislation, etc. And when they disagree they'll only make any progress in ways that help the deep state target the supporters of the other side. The overall effect is that the deep state gets empowered every time, and people only disagree on who the deep state should target, and the deep state gets to remove anyone who opposes them so long as they have a little patience in waiting for the correct faction to be in power.

>>215217183
Taika Waititi going crazy

>>215219530
>deep state
we rebranded “shadow government” for modern audiences huh

>>215219714

They both just mean any part of the government that holds power but doesn't respond to democratic controls, which would also include corporations and rich-frens outside of the government. It's considered to be 'paranoid' to think that any western system might be influenced by anything that isn't fully democratic.

The concept of the 'deep state' is also something used to split opposition. Half of the electorate thinks of it as being universities and bureaucrats who are pushing leftism within the system, the other half of the electorate thinks of it as being corporations and donors who are pushing rightism from within the system.

>>215219912
>Half of the electorate thinks of it as being universities and bureaucrats who are pushing leftism within the system, the other half of the electorate thinks of it as being corporations and donors who are pushing rightism from within the system.
Funny how both are correct except corpos aren't really pushing rightism per se, it's just blind greed.

>>215217130
Except Luffy is going to destroy the great wall, destroy Marijoa and kill the celestial dragons, creating a utopia of freedom
Jesus didn't do that shit

>>215218751
First: yada
Second: yada
Etc.

>>215217183
Hey, who does this guy look like.
He looks like some other guy, which guy do i mean??

>>215217183
>you're killing palestinians with your AI
The NPC meme is true isn't it
Just smash [current thing] with other [current thing] together

>>215220226
>going to destroy the great wall, destroy Marijoa and kill the celestial dragons
mfw not having read since the timeskip

>>215220291
Get up to date, it's good stuff
They make it to Egghead, where a ton of stuff is revealed and we're currently in Elbaph

>>215220251
Urgghhhh….

>>215216766 (OP)
Daily reminder his voice actor died from the vax.
>drowned in a bathtub with traces of marijuana, cased closed

>>215217183
i hate kikes as much as the other guy, but muzzles are worse. the fact that they murdered civilians first at that open air party gives israelis the right to retaliate. and dont holohoax this, we live in the time of video and lifestreaming, it happened.

people who openly decapitate whites in europe because of their skydaddy beliefs dont deserve to live.

>>215216766 (OP)
I will never understand what the problem is with anyone/everyone/'powers' having 'my data'. What the fuck is my 'data'?? I don't fucking care. They can have every single piece of information about me they want there is no way for this to harm me. What particular delusion is it that causes otherwise normal people to clutch at their 'data'?

>>215217578
Pretty true for some people. I knew a lady who worked as a wagie at Dell in its early days, getting paid in stocks along with her wage, and she's now rich as shit from those stocks just because Dell made it when other companies didn't. Anyone who tries to downplay the significance of 'right place, right time' in a lot of instances of success are either delusional or liars.

>>215220416
>there is no way for this to harm me.
A lot of it ends up in the hands of actual scammers from leaks and front companies, because there is no actual data security requirements in how your information is sold, so people with nefarious intentions have information on you to easier scam you, or use it to take out fraudulent loans, among a number of other things. How do you prove you're you, short of showing up somewhere with your ID next to your face, if all of your data is at risk? this doesn't even touch upon shit like insurance companies having information about your health or genetic diseases, that they are currently not entitled to, so they can charge you more or outright deny you. This mentality is why social engineering is still the top way to hack people and institutions.

I know you are protestant retards who don't know to read a text properly but the "beast" thing is already over and was defeated with the fall of Rome. We are in the little season where Satan freed himself after 1000 years and now we are in the loop of Gog & Magog, meaning there will be wars over and over, and eventually a final war where God will launch the last judgement.

Start to read a text properly please, there will be no Jesus living among us for 1000 years stupid retards. It's all about wars now and waiting for an end that we don't know when it will happens.

>>215220416
Let's say you need to buy something at an old-style market. The vendor knows exactly how much money you have because they have your data, you have no idea how much the product is actually worth because you don't have their data. Now there is no haggling and there is no free market, you just get gouged every time.

Big data is when the capitalist system has this kind of data on everyone. Even if you personally kept your data secure, the fact that they have it on most people means they can always set prices and terms at the absolute limit of what people will accept, with no consideration for how expensive or difficult it is for them to make the product, and you'll have to pay those prices and accept those terms.