Thread 215351134

Why can't the 21st century produce horror icons such as Jason, Freddy, Michael, Ghost Face, Pinhead, etc. ??? All existing horror icons are from the 70s, 80s and 90s.

>>215351134 (OP)
*ahem*

art the clown

>>215351205
Meme clown

Terrifier is just gore porn not horror

>>215351134 (OP)
samara morgan

>>215351188
O CHOLERA CZY TO FREDDY FAZBEAR

>>215351219
he's still an icon even if you hate him

>>215351134 (OP)
>what is Jigsaw
>what is Pennywise
>what is Patrick Bateman
And then you have all the serial killer tv shows like Dexter and Hannibal. You're just being disingenuous.

>>215351244
How tho? Nobody knows him outside of reddit

>>215351134 (OP)
I find it interesting these characters can sell merchandise even when they don't have a new movie for over 10-20 years

>>215351244
Nope. meme at best. Icons are characters people watch movies to see more of. The only reason people watch terrifier is for the gore porn. Art is barely a character.

>>215351268
i know many people who dressed up as him at halloween at pubs/clubs

>>215351244
Really? Then why isn't he on the new Fanta?

>>215351371
whos the rape icon?

>>215351357
>freddy fanta

>>215351134 (OP)

Malignant was pretty close

>>215351479
The fuck is that, that ain't selling merch

>>215351479
that's a comedy bro

>>215351134 (OP)
Jigsaw for movies but most post 2000s horror icons are video game stuff or creepypasta stuff now ala Freddy Fazbear or Slenderman.

>>215351571
Why was there never a slenderman movie?

>>215351590
>he forgot
I mean I don't blame you.

A better question, why can't 20s/30s horror icons from Universal Monsters era be brought back to success in the 21st century?

>>215351601
There was? I had no idea

>>215351188
Cringe

>>215351205
Slop

>>215351357
>>215351371
I know who Michael and Chucky are but what the hell are these other things
>>215351590
Probably because the Slenderman story is now tied to a weird attempted murder of two middle schoolers trying to kill their friend for Slenderman and I suppose from Hollywood’s perspective it’s not worth the trouble. I remember Marble Hornets was cool but that was over a decade ago

The Ring girl is pretty iconic. Billy the puppet from Saw as well.

JigC Baskin band

>>215351134 (OP)
Art the Clown and The Grabber(yes, that's his name) from Black Phone are the modern day horror icons

>>215352480
>The Grabber
Fuck off just because Universal or whatever is shilling this shit everywhere from Fortnite to Fanta does NOT mean the GronkleBonker is iconic. It’s soulless. I refuse to believe any of that

>>215352480
Lol

>>215352480
the grabber isn't there yet but the last movie set him up pretty well as a freddy replacement
>>215352426
Sadako is pretty iconic, I agree

>>215352480
Bro

>>215351256
jigsaw 1 was released in 04, pennywise is from 1990, and patrick bateman isn't exactly the definition of a horror icon; more a psychological thriller with horror elements.

i do think the closest thing we ever got was the IT remaster but again, it was a remaster.

had there been a film with the same hype and a different character and plot (AKA OP's REQUEST), yes, you'd have an icon on your hands.

but that we don't.
and we won't.

horror is mostly seen as an easy crash grab, unfortunately.

horror is something that demands care and respect. something these movie producers could care less for nowadays.

all comes down to money, who would've thought? you can kiss new IP's goodbye.

>>215351357
>>215351371
What the fuck does chucky's punch taste like?

>>215352757
Guess what century is 2004, retard.

>>215352757
>there’s nothing that pops out and goes BLELELELEELEGH so it’s not horror

>>215353218
melted plastic, dried blood, and some semen

>>215353218
I immediately thought of the scene where he was jerking off his plastic dick for whatever reason.

Thanks brain.

>>215352033
And the Friday the 13th movies aren't? Basically all horror is slop.

>>215351134 (OP)
In order from best to worst (IMHO):
1. Jason
2. Freddy
3. Micheal
4. Leatherface
5. Jigsaw
6. Pinhead
7. Chucky
8. Scream

>>215351134 (OP)
because the world is dying dumbass.
all media is stagnating.

"art the clown!"
so original, just gore for the sake of it.
seen worst in the 80s.

>>215352656
Freddy’s all around the perfect horror villain. His design and glove are iconic, Englund did an amazing job, so I always thought the pedophile thing felt tacked on. It never really added to his character

Art the Clown isn't great but he works as the demonic adversary to the Job/Michael/Christlike Sienna Shaw. If Leone can stick the landing and get even more biblical I will rate the series highly despite Art being a lot weaker than other icons.

>>215351134 (OP)
>All existing horror icons are from the 70s, 80s and 90s.
Film is dead.

we, as a culture, lost our collective aggression.
its only masochism now.

>>215354547
Is that conehead?

Is The Grabbler's mask supposed to be from japanese folk? Oni?

>>215351134 (OP)
Three Finger's an icon by now. Then, definitely the Creeper and Mick Taylor. Maybe the Collector could be seen as an icon too, if only his movies were more widely known.

>>215354126
You forgot the GOAT

>>215351134 (OP)
Those movies came out when franchise slop was the peak. People are more interested in a different kind of horror nowadays, no one cares about slashers anymore, it's a dead genre. People want supernatural stuff or deeper things that explore the emotions.

>>215352532
The Strangers are much bigger icons than that weak motherfucker. His movie was lame too

>>215351623
Because retarded postmodern writers keep trying to turn all of them into tragic antiheroes

>>215351643
It came out in 2018, it's PG-13 and complete and utter dogshit

>>215354939
>tragic antiheroes
I dunno, maybe Dracula and the Wolfman you could do that with and pull it off

>>215355039
They only did those because werewolves and vampires were slight exaggerations of jews.

>>215354155
>seen worse in the 80s
Lol yeah ok. The only thing that comes close is The Thing and that’s not even a slasher
I haven’t seen anything worse than this.
https://youtu.be/QDdrMnCJulw?si=hCrmyzaebQYBbT-A

>>215354679
Leprechaun sucks Brad Dourif didn’t even want to do a Chucky vs Leprechaun because he thought they were lame

>>215351134 (OP)
The horrors of the 21st century can't really be encapsulated in a "fun villain".

>>215354760
This anon’s right. Franchise slop wasn’t a thing until the 80s
>Psycho 2: 1983
>TCM 2: 1986
>Halloween 2: 1981
>Superman 2: 1980

>>215355396
Who plays what instrument

>>215354392
Yeah, it was better that they didn't commit to it in the original. What a shame that the remake was so bad it killed the entire franchise.

>>215351623
>dark universe movie about capturing and examining monsters - fail
>dark universe park, which btw uses 100% same concept of victoria capturing all monsters to experiment on them - is successful

can someone explain that?

>>215355719
Honestly, if it were me I'd make him a victim of a witch hunt by parents who thought he was a pedo and that's why he becomes a vengeful spirit.

>>215355968
I thought that was the original plot, but then I looked it up. It makes more sense that way since he'd be haunting their children as revenge.

>>215351188
Since is owned by some western lady, is not surprising
>>215351734
this

>>215355233
Frankenstein (1931)
Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
Son of Frankenstein (1939)
Ghost of Frankenstein (1942)
Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943)
House of Frankenstein (1944)
Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)

>>215353218
Mostly peach