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Anonymous No.215393359 [Report] >>215393469 >>215393504 >>215393726 >>215393877 >>215393938 >>215393941 >>215394234 >>215394327 >>215394366 >>215394458 >>215394526 >>215395042 >>215395183
Why is this movie so damn comfy??
Anonymous No.215393387 [Report] >>215393410 >>215393425 >>215393532 >>215393632 >>215393827 >>215394327 >>215394338 >>215395741 >>215395925 >>215395927
I don't the understand the fascination with this movie. It was considered a bad movie for the longest time. Why couldn't it have stayed that way?
Anonymous No.215393410 [Report]
>>215393387
shaddap amber
Anonymous No.215393425 [Report] >>215393493
>>215393387
>It was considered a bad movie for the longest time
Only in your mind.
Anonymous No.215393469 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
it's pretty mid desu, do want a beelzebub gf thoughbeit
Anonymous No.215393490 [Report]
Another very comfy one
Anonymous No.215393493 [Report] >>215393507 >>215393667
>>215393425
Is this some kind of zoomer revisionism? Go to the wiki and read the critical response. As lukewarm as that reads, audiences liked it even less.
Anonymous No.215393497 [Report]
Camp fell out of fashion, then returned. Now we have ugly CGI romps that are totally self-serious. A goofy noir thriller among a pan-European upper class is refreshing.
Anonymous No.215393504 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
because ur a faggot npc parroting shills
Anonymous No.215393507 [Report] >>215393636 >>215394013
>>215393493
US critical response is not worth anything.
Anonymous No.215393532 [Report] >>215393636 >>215393666
>>215393387
The only people who disliked it did so to vicariously hate on Polanski. The movie itself was always fine. Now, when cinema is SHIT, it stands out all the more.
Anonymous No.215393624 [Report]
nah, this movie is trash, especially compared to rosemary's baby. has some nice shots but thats about it.
Anonymous No.215393632 [Report] >>215393664 >>215393958
>>215393387
>It was considered a bad movie for the longest time
bullshit
Anonymous No.215393636 [Report] >>215393661
>>215393507
It is when we're talking about the film's reception, which was mostly negative. If you weren't following along, the post I replied to said that the Ninth Gate being an unpopular movie was "only in my head."
>>215393532
>The only people who disliked it did so to vicariously hate on Polanski.
The average person hates Polanski then? Because most people who saw this movie back in the day, didn't like it. While I think Polanski should be brought to justice, my dislike of him is based entirely on him being an overly praised mediocrity, not his sordid little life as a pint sized Jew.
Anonymous No.215393661 [Report] >>215393925 >>215393941
>>215393636
>The average person hates Polanski then?
Yeah, people tend to hate child molesters. Like, it's the one group of people that everyone hates.
Anonymous No.215393664 [Report]
>>215393632
Bullshit? It's true. Sorry you weren't born when it was released.
Anonymous No.215393666 [Report]
>>215393532
I don't like Polanski the person
But I enjoy his films
Odd, but it do be like that
Anonymous No.215393667 [Report] >>215393925
>>215393493
Are you fucking with us or are you genuinely saying that critical response from movie theatres is the be all end all of public reception.
Otherwise explain why fight club, studio Ghibli and Jim Carrey Grinch are cult classics.
Anonymous No.215393726 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
slow pace, mystery, cool settings, calming conversations
Anonymous No.215393745 [Report] >>215393883
Polanski is a jewish sociopath so he understand the narcissistic ego well. Johnny Depp isn't James Bond or a superhero, he is the narcissistic dream tempered by reality. He gets to nerd out over old books and use his knowledge to locate rare books for collectors, he travels frequently, he's attractive, intelligent, worldly. The guy who sets himself on fire is egotism gone wrong, he thinks he has been chosen by Satan and that he has figured it all out without any fact checking or attention to detail or healthy skepticism.

In the end Satan is a woman and fucks Johnny Depp, Satan chooses him, but he was not even seeking it, and probably didn't even believe it, he was chosen for his wisdom and realism, the content of his soul which he had cultivated through his life, the ultimate compliment.
Anonymous No.215393750 [Report]
This was one of my favourite movies when it came out, I was a teen then
Anonymous No.215393771 [Report]
I think only euros disregard this film.
As someone who hasn't lived in either New York or Europe, the classy urban environments with an Al white cast set in the cultural peak of society is insanely comfy. Everyone dresses up, Corso just drinks, smokes and reads ancient magical texts in sexy European libraries, and his lodging his provided by a billionaire financier. He has a sexy demon body guard protecting him, he's uncovering secret societies.
It has the same appeal as James Bond, just with occult mysteries rather than spy thriller shit.
Anonymous No.215393827 [Report] >>215393925
>>215393387
This movie rules and always has your hallucinating
Worst you can say is it didnt really break into mainstream appeal
Anonymous No.215393877 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
The sex scene with the fallen angel was hot.
Anonymous No.215393883 [Report]
>>215393745
She was demon guiding him
Anonymous No.215393925 [Report] >>215393971 >>215394102
>>215393661
Then why would they pay to see it in the theater? I doubt those who saw the film cared that much.
>>215393667
I'm not saying that. But where's the evidence to the contrary? Fight Club is a very different case. It was a somewhat controversial film, and it received a lot of praise from critics regardless. Ron Howard's the Grinch is not a cult classic. It's a major studio film that was always popular. It just wasn't popular with critics. That doesn't make it cult. And Studio Ghibli? As far as I remember, Studio Ghibli was always loved by both audiences and critics in the West.
>>215393827
So you're saying this film was popular with the people who originally saw it? Or are you saying it was popular with film geeks? Neither are true.
Anonymous No.215393938 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
The Whore. She's nice.
Anonymous No.215393941 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
i love this movie and its score
the book is great too
>>215393661
>Like, it's the one group of people that everyone hates
jeets?
Anonymous No.215393958 [Report]
>>215393632
You sure about that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ninth_Gate#Critical_response
Anonymous No.215393971 [Report] >>215394026
>>215393925
Why do you give a shit, faggot?
Anonymous No.215393990 [Report] >>215394061
She was a witch, they even were at a lecture on witches when she first appears
Anonymous No.215394013 [Report]
>>215393507
lol...except like 50%+ of the world's box office gross. But, you know, be a yurofag if that's your thing.
Anonymous No.215394017 [Report] >>215394068
most of the movies i love and grew up with were critical and financial flops i mean like basically all of them -labyrnth legend never ending story return to oz masters of the universe transformers the movie ect- so guess what i think of 'critical acclaim' lmao

and i'm right in the middle of watching the long kiss goodnight atm for the tenth time

what a dumb argument go suck eberts ballsack!
you go now
Anonymous No.215394020 [Report]
Lovers of this movie should watch Frantic by the same director. It's got a similar sense of mystery.
Anonymous No.215394026 [Report] >>215394342
>>215393971
Because I made a completely uncontroversial statement and I'm getting responses like, "you're crazy" and "that's all in your head." I'm fascinated by zoomer delusion.
Anonymous No.215394061 [Report] >>215394086 >>215394131
>>215393990
her beast form in the drawing indicates she's the whore of babylon
in the book she's just a redditor
Anonymous No.215394068 [Report] >>215394099
>>215394017
That wasn't the argument though. Nobody is saying, the movie was poorly received, therefore it's bad.
Anonymous No.215394086 [Report] >>215394103 >>215394131
>>215394061
The Whore of Babylon is a witch
Anonymous No.215394099 [Report] >>215394167
>>215394068
puh-leaze it's implicit
Anonymous No.215394102 [Report] >>215394167
>>215393925
The fuck are you trying to prove? I liked it back in the day, and I still like it, and it is fucking comfy.
Anonymous No.215394103 [Report] >>215394142
>>215394086
she's a demon, not a witch
Anonymous No.215394131 [Report] >>215394446 >>215394762 >>215395197
>>215394061
>>215394086
She is a demon. Nowhere not in the movie nor in the book is said that she is The Whore of Babylon. But there were hints that she is demon in the book
Anonymous No.215394142 [Report] >>215394304
>>215394103
Oh yeah? *rapes you in front of a fire*
Anonymous No.215394167 [Report] >>215394200 >>215394202
>>215394099
No it's not. I'm the one who brought it up. I'm genuinely curious when this film gained traction, because for the longest time, even among fans of films, it was considered a bad movie. For what it's worth, I also think it's a bad movie.
>>215394102
>comfy
Yeah, but you're a zoomer. Back in the day wasn't really back in the day.
Anonymous No.215394200 [Report] >>215394264
>>215394167
"it was considered a bad movie"
"look at these wikipedia reviews!"

>wait i'm not making *that* argument anon

amber i swear to god
Anonymous No.215394202 [Report] >>215394264
>>215394167
You're tiresome.
Anonymous No.215394234 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
I had high expectations for it and it starts out decent but it just doesn't feel like a movie made by a master director. As soon as he gets to europe it starts to feel more and more like a b movie
Anonymous No.215394264 [Report]
>>215394200
Where's the evidence to the contrary? That Wikipedia reception section also shows audience scores, which seem worse than the critical consensus. Again, you're the one calling me delusional, but where's the evidence this film was well liked or had a cult audience?
>>215394202
Zoomie's tired, can't concentrate.
Anonymous No.215394296 [Report]
A really comfy and entertaining 1960s caper film. Clearly Polanski couldn't afford bigger set pieces, but think of it as a well-made low-budget Indiana Jones. Despite that, he's a rapist POS.
Anonymous No.215394304 [Report]
>>215394142
It wasn't rape, Depp's character enjoyed it.
Anonymous No.215394308 [Report]
>215394264
you are all (you)'d out amber
Anonymous No.215394327 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
>>215393387
it still is. boring shit movie
Anonymous No.215394338 [Report]
>>215393387
its a example of a perfect movie
Anonymous No.215394342 [Report] >>215394559
>>215394026
You said >movie unpopular when came out, why do zoomers like it
Not controversial, but incredibly pedantic and retarded. The only reply you deserve is dismissive and hostile. It's a pointless time wasting post that is off topic to the thread.
Anonymous No.215394366 [Report] >>215394402
>>215393359 (OP)
one of the best movies ever. Watch it every year. Great soundtrack too
Anonymous No.215394402 [Report] >>215394437 >>215394454 >>215394491
>>215394366
I long for the days when people were embarrassed to put their shit taste on display
Anonymous No.215394437 [Report]
>>215394402
everithing about the movie is exactly right, every scene, every frame, its pure kino from start to finish
Anonymous No.215394446 [Report] >>215395197
>>215394131
>She is a demon. Nowhere not in the movie nor in the book is said that she is The Whore of Babylon. But there were hints that she is demon in the book
in the movie she's the whore of babylon and is a demonic agent of satan because that's what the whore of babylon is (picrel)
there are no hints of demonic influence in the book, but just that she's older than she appears and was present for biblical events
Anonymous No.215394454 [Report]
>>215394402
Shut the fuck up and get out of this thread already
Anonymous No.215394458 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
Good question actually, not sure.
Anonymous No.215394491 [Report]
>>215394402
Well, i like it. And most of my friends and social group people too
Anonymous No.215394516 [Report] >>215394601 >>215394656
Is the book any good?
Anonymous No.215394526 [Report] >>215394585 >>215394862 >>215394916
>>215393359 (OP)
One of the best movies ever made.
It delves into soul of a man without conscience and lets you see the development from being a bastard to a devil. The protagonist is on a journey through all gates of hell, mastering every challenge, even murder to become something more than human. The ending is mysterious too, so it lets a lot of room for imagination.
Anonymous No.215394559 [Report]
>>215394342
How is that pedantic? How is it off topic? It was about the Ninth Gate. Or are we only allowed to talk about why it so gosh darn comfy (literal retard speak)?
Anonymous No.215394585 [Report]
>>215394526
its basicaly a religios movie following the path of a unbeliever that finds true faith and salvation
Anonymous No.215394601 [Report]
>>215394516
So so. It has its moments but its nothing special. It has some nice history facts shown in the convesretaion between Corso and Baronesse Kessler that are pretty interesting. I even thought Dan Brown coppied a few of them for his books.
Anonymous No.215394656 [Report]
>>215394516
ignore that other nigger, if you liked the movie read the book.
Anonymous No.215394698 [Report]
The whore of Babylon looks like cillian Murphy in drag.
Anonymous No.215394762 [Report] >>215394822 >>215395197
>>215394131
I thought the book made it clear she's Lucifer who is in love with Corso.
Anonymous No.215394822 [Report] >>215394943 >>215395197
>>215394762
not even close
if she was satan in the book she would have pressed corso to stay when the guy's ritual went wrong or the story would have ended closer to the movie
Anonymous No.215394862 [Report] >>215394915
>>215394526
>The ending is mysterious.
No it is not.
Anonymous No.215394878 [Report] >>215394897
>There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. The name written on her forehead was a mystery:
>Babylon the Great
>the mother of prostitutes
>and of the abominations of the earth.
Anonymous No.215394897 [Report]
>>215394878
Anonymous No.215394912 [Report] >>215395660
This movie makes me want to start smoking again
Anonymous No.215394915 [Report]
>>215394862
yes it is.

and now?
Anonymous No.215394916 [Report]
>>215394526
The book in question has been poured over for over 300 years, with everyone focused on the text. And that text is completely irrelevant, disposable, just as the story of the film is. The whole point of the film is in its images, the story is deliberately degraded to make the point.

It's all about abstraction. How could viewers not catch the layers of the inferno/hosts of angels references?

--at the bottom level, you have the Frenchman who owns the book but isn't interested except for the beauty of the binding

--then you have the Baroness who has spent her life writing about the devil and never even considering the pictures, even though she had the best clue--she SAW him.

--at a higher level, you have Liana Tefler, who knows theres some power in the artifact but is still focused on the text (and incidentally sex)

--higher still you have Balkan who knows the text is worthless, and the pictures the real value but thinks the magic is in the pictures

--then you have the two brothers who have the power to tinker with the power of the pictures

--finally Corso who we see moving from the bottom of the list to this layer where he knows the power is not in the pictures themselves, but in the quest. (At the beginning, the value of the book to him is neither in its text, nor pictures, but in its binding and rarity.)

--then we have the girl who IS the pictures

--and we have the viewer.

This is a cross, four people stacked, the two brothers and then three more people stacked.
Anonymous No.215394943 [Report] >>215394956 >>215395069
>>215394822
Think what you want but that doesn't convince me.
Anonymous No.215394956 [Report] >>215395068
>>215394943
Then you have to read the book
Anonymous No.215395042 [Report] >>215395134 >>215395159 >>215395703
>>215393359 (OP)
I basically do what Johnny Depp does in that movie, except instead of buying book lots from the inheritors of dead boomers and selling them to rich snob collectors, I buy manga losts from college kids on craisgslist and sell them to autistic children. Buying and reselling novels is completely unviable, there is zero profit margin because companies like momox have cornered the market. Western Comics are equally useless because there's no demand. The only thing that works is manga. Every day some retarded 14 year old is haggling me for a $2 discount on
>The Emasculated Faggot who reached the Last Level and shoved a magic staff up his asshole (Volumes 1-4, free shipping)

So yeah, I'm basically Johnny Depp.
Anonymous No.215395068 [Report] >>215395166
>>215394956
I have read the book. She said enough to make it pretty clear she is the devil, but I suppose it's somewhat open to interpretation. I took her fascination with Corso as her being in love with him.
Anonymous No.215395069 [Report]
>>215394943
i don't have to convince you if you're wrong
Anonymous No.215395134 [Report] >>215395198
>>215395042
Reseller scum always have the strangest cope
Anonymous No.215395159 [Report] >>215395369
>>215395042
That's a pretty funny concept. I wish I knew enough about manga to add to it. I've spent my entire life collecting only the choicest editions of scatological hentai.
Anonymous No.215395166 [Report] >>215395299
>>215395068
>She said enough to make it pretty clear she is the devil
again, she cited passages as if she was there for those events but none of it screams I'M THE DEVIL LOL NOW FUCK ME
Anonymous No.215395183 [Report]
>>215393359 (OP)
It's a modern adventure just prior to the internet becoming mainstream.
It's autumn (I think?) which is just inherently comfy.
Lots of late 90s early 2000s "old" locations, book studies, libraries, bookstores, book .. wait, books are just comfy.
Anonymous No.215395197 [Report] >>215395372
>>215394131
>>215394446
>>215394762
>>215394822
In the book it's fairly clear she's satan, but in the movie the drawings and references more the whore of babylon. however, in the directors commentary, roman polanski says she's the devil.
Anonymous No.215395198 [Report]
>>215395134
I am selling to willing buyers at the fair market price.
Anonymous No.215395299 [Report]
>>215395166
Because that'd be shitty writing.
Anonymous No.215395369 [Report]
>>215395159
It's very simple.
You just buy bundles of 100-300 manga from people who disolve their collections, then split them into individual series, purchase any missing volumes from amazon, and sell them on for a 20-30% profit after all expenses. It's a decent side-hustle once you get the hang of it.

Can't make a real living with it though, if your revenue gets too big the taxman will notice and come rape you in the ass.
If you want to go legit you need massive inventory and turnover to compensate for all the taxes and bookkeeping costs, which can't be done unless you already have a lot of capital or acceess to a bank loan which, if you did, you wouldn't be doing this in the first place.
Anonymous No.215395372 [Report]
>>215395197
Thank you. I think picking at the differences misses the point, that it is something of a higher order of power than natural reality. Using the whore of bablyon is probably just good imagery for use as a sex factor.
Anonymous No.215395660 [Report]
>>215394912
>tfw that first smoke before starting heavy research of your newest found grimoire to summon a gf
kino
Anonymous No.215395703 [Report]
>>215395042
Yeah, the only possibility to make money as a novelist antiquarian is to be independently wealthy and eventually schmooze your way into making it into the black after like fifteen years.
Anonymous No.215395741 [Report]
>>215393387
its because we didnt know
we didnt know
Anonymous No.215395925 [Report]
>>215393387
i didnt think it was bad just mediocre
Anonymous No.215395927 [Report]
>>215393387
what a load of mumbo jambo