Thread 215393376

Lmao, imagine thinking this giant piece of shit was the future format even in 1990.

>>215393376 (OP)

I still have laserdiscs. Over 600 in fact. It’s a beautiful format with spectacular audio.

it looked much better than VHS and it had cool big ass covers.

>>215393423
Sunk cost fallacy

>>215393423
based retard

>>215393376 (OP)
how could your limp zoomer wrists even cope with lifting such a gigantic disk?

>Be boomer
>Want to watch a movie
>First need to rewind the disk to be able to watch it
>Can take up to a few minutes

>>215393376 (OP)
> Lmao, imagine thinking this giant piece of shit was the future format even in 1990.
It came out in the late 1970s.

No in the 90s people were thinking discs would get smaller (look at Men in Black for an example). Laser discs were more of an 80s thing unless you were in Japan and they were impractical as fuck.

>>215393376 (OP)
Even in 1990 Laserdisc was an outdated niche format. DVD wasn't in anyone's minds yet but it was obvious that something CD-sized was what the next big format was going to be

>>215393376 (OP)
Manly tears, stop showing off your gamecube collection

>>215393376 (OP)
I love my David Lynch laser disk collection

>>215393477
Thats VHS dumbass, you dont need to rewind a fucking DVD lol

>>215393423
Serious question though, how many of them have had bad disc rot? Heard that was worse with laser discs specifically.

>>215393521
You didn't rewind your DVDs? We had a little contraption just for that next to the DVD player

>>215393521
>>215393477

>>215393521
You had to. We had one of those green rewinder thingies.

>>215393579
Yeah this one. We had one too.

>>215393376 (OP)
So kino, pure kino

>>215393579
Epic! I wish I had such a fantabulous contraption for my digital video discs. I've been rewinding them by spinning them backwards on a stick.

it's not that far off a record.

surprised they never moved on to read-only storage on a chip, like a USB drive or SD card or something.

>>215393376 (OP)
it looks like a record but there's a movie on there

>>215393521
at least you could fast forward a VHS.
whoever wrote into the DVD specs that some intro videos wouldn't just let you hit the MENU button deserves a special place in Hell.

>>215393730
That would have been the next step (a good one imo) but streaming arrived and ended the format wars

>>215393579
i had a blue one which removed any electrical infetterence and prevented rotational velocidensity of the discs.

>>215393376 (OP)

Laserdisc was a snobby expensive bulky format for cinephiles who wanted to brag about how many lines of horizontal resolution it had. It was not really a replacement for cletus renting die hard on VHS.

>>215393376 (OP)
Imagine being happy owning no physical media, instead trusting content owners to not change the terms of the sale after they have your money or flat out rug-pulling the content away from you.

>>215393423
Lol

>>215393521
>you dont need to rewind a fucking DVD lol
So youre one of those bastards you returned his DVDs without rewinding them first? Bastards!

>>215393521
You're smart.

>>215393542
He can't reply, he's watching kino.

I still have no idea how the fuck you even have data on physical media. Like I understand how a USB would work with transistors and shit, and how that would translate into bits and bytes which then can represent data.

But how in the FUCK you "record" music by drilling physical grooves into a vinyl record, or how the fuck data is recorded on tape or burnt into CDs is fucking beyond me

and im a millenial not a zoomer so i guess that makes it even more embarrassing i have no idea how this work

>>215393831
the Linux nerds were right about DRM and freedumz the whole time. a lot of people said streaming was convenient compared to piracy, and sure.

but fucking hell just let someone download an MKV and play it however they want. everything gets ripped, even DVDs got cracked. you can keep the online stream too (ideally let users select different versions if they get 'updated').

>>215393891
What does generation have to do with you being dumber than a box of rocks?

>>215393376 (OP)
>manlytears_holding_a_gamecube_disc.png

I remember seeing one of these in school around 1995 and thinking what its so big compared to compact discs

>>215393905
>Why would it be a generational thing knowing about technology farther away from your generation

>>215393891
i can actually (vaguely) understand any 'up = 1/down = 0' format more directly. punch cards, punch card reader. binary numbers, ez. ASCII in binary numbers, fine. some way more advanced file format, got you.

for me i don't understand how the fuck something like an ANALOGUE signal works. what the hell hits a TV or radio over radio waves?

>>215393796
But was it effective at reducing sinusoidal repleneration?

>>215393423
Ngl that’s pretty based. I’m not quite a boomer of your sort but I still have all my burnt dvd-rs.

>>215393956
Now 4K at 30fps from punch cards would be a feat. Someone should do it.

True story I've never owned a bluray player. Went straight to digital.

If memory serves the Netherlands was one of the first countries with Netflix thanks to broadband penetration.

it feels like tech as a whole has regressed

>>215393891
>I still have no idea how the fuck you even have data on physical media.
>how in the FUCK you "record" music by drilling physical grooves into a vinyl record
you already know, just dont over think it. computer data makes less sense to me imo. you telling me we can capture any sound and translate it into zeros and ones, but theres somehow no way to write out zero’s and ones in its rawest form and play it back? it doesnt add up

>>215394050
wouldn't be surprised if someone has done something like this tbqh.

anyone remember that Telnet server that'd output ASCII Star Wars?

>>215394115
lel

>>215393376 (OP)
It was a movie record. And twice as fragile since a tiny scratch meant the movie will never work again.

>>215394145
I would assume at the end of the day it's just representing sound(waves?) mapped to bits and bytes. How it goes beyond those 8-bit tunes I don't really get. Like some smart people all agreed that 1 bit = doot and two bits = boop. Then you can make the nokia ringtone.

But how you can represent the sound of a fart in binary is beyond me. But I understand the core concept of it at least

>>215393521
Wrong
DVDs required rewinding after each playthrough.

>>215393423
Enjoy!
Our average anon can't add 1 to 1.

>>215393376 (OP)
No one had one of these since the player was like $2-3K back in the mid 80s when a good middle class income was like $35K a year. Too damn expensive and the discs were fucking expensive too.

I had a friend whose family owned a Laserdisc player, except they owned no Laserdisc movies. We had to go to the one Blockbuster in the area that rented Laserdiscs, and we rented Problem Child 2. I remember the movie stopping partway through, and my friend explaining that we had to flip the Laserdisc over to finish watching the movie. Even back then, I knew that there had to be a better way to watch movies at home. People forget how much of a revelation DVD was when it reached the home video market.

>>215393376 (OP)
>Ohhhh Deevee, I wish you were my son!
>Ohhhh Deevee, I wish you were my son!!!

>>215394115
>we need more coders!
>flood colleges with dipshits
>need to pass x number of students a year
>standards decline
>now have tons of "coders"
>they expect money
>outsource to india
>standards decline further

>>215394145

Digital data compression is extremely complicated, jpeg, mpeg , AVC, HEVC its best not to think about it.

https://youtu.be/Kv1Hiv3ox8I

>>215394388
'vibe coding' cracks me up. and i haven't done any programming since i was a teenager, but at least i learned C. although that was a 'high level' language at one point so fuck it, who cares if people use AI. maybe that's just the next step (and i still find it mind-blowing it can pump out scripts that do what i ask, the fuck.)

>>215394145
>theres somehow no way to write out zero’s and ones in its rawest form and play it back?
that's what CD and laserdisc did though. and you got a whopping 60 minutes of video per side.

>>215393423
>muh laserbro
Love my Criterion, CAV's, SE's, Imports, Box Sets, porn and numbered discs.
First to have Dolby Digital (AC-3)...
good stuff (for a short time)
>>215394343
your friend was lame and gay. lrn2 sony/yamaha flipper models

>>215394188
It still exists actually : towel.blinkenlights.nl

>>215394504
>avatarfags as a nigger
>writes dumb shit like a nigger
pottery

>>215393744
That's just stupid. How in the hell are they going to fit a whole 2 hour movie into one of these paper thin shiny records? You can't fit any film in there. I want my money back!

>>215394423
think about all the things we take for granted every day extremely smart humans came up with

>>215394556
>avatarfags
that word etc.

>>215393831
No one trusts them, we just float from pirate site to pirate site forever and torrent the shit we actually care about.

>>215393730
>>215393744
Funny enough there was another format that looked even MORE like records and held the disc in a cartridge called the CED https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc

>>215394495
someone recorded then loaded music onto a cd. im more talking about like, writing 010101010101 on notepad and saving it as a .mp3 file and playing it back. i think they sorta did that with 8 bit music but it got played back as chirps on a chip, not actual sound

>>215394059
It was mail order before digital.

>>215394495

laserdisc was *analog* that is why the discs were so much larger than DVD because of the inefficiency of analog storage of signals.

>>215394787
they're both discs man how are they different?

>>215393891
They lied to you, they actually captured spirits and enslaved them into the disc with a mixture of incantations and satanic chants using sorcery. Why else do you think they manufactured these things in Japan? The land of heathen gods and devil worship!

Those guys at Sony (that's Satanic Order of Nemesis Yogis) are subverting all that is good and Godly by using their dark magics to bing spirits of sight and sound to these devil mirrors.

>>215394818
same way some nerds had to figure out the 'Red Book' standards for audio CDs i guess:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Digital_Audio

>>215393579
I stand corrected.

>>215394635
The development of the CED is the ultimate example of sunk-cost fallacy.

for me it's Video-CD. squeezing a video into 700 MB so it would play off a CD on SOME DVD players, but whatever video codec they choose made it worse than DivX/aXXo shit.

i remember waiting around for the day devices could just play a bunch of formats from USB/storage. even the PlayStation 3 was picky.

hmm

>>215393376 (OP)
damn, that bluray got bitten by a bee!

>>215393768
As a current dvd watcher yes this person should be flayed.

BIG

>>215396840
DISC

>>215393423
I agree. Especially about the audio.

>>215393423
Laser discs are one of the cooler things to have collected.

>>215394830
Lol

>>215393891
My dad once fixed my vhs player for me and as he did, he showed me exactly how it worked. When he was done he said something like "Don't ask me how a DVD works. Black magic."

>>215393376 (OP)
When I was on holiday in Indonesia in the early 00s, they had peddlers hauling up to 200 laserdisks in huge backpacks all over the neighbourhood, like a ghetto Netflix. Dude would walk around his route and get hailed by people who wanted to rent a movie for a day or two. I'd never even heard of giant disks before I went there.

>>215393376 (OP)
For me, it's obscure 80s/90s anime OVA rips taken from Laser Disc.

>>215395013
I still have a VCD card for my Sega Saturn.

>>215393891
sound is just a wave so it makes sense that you could imprint it as a groove onto a material

>>215393376 (OP)
It's the same size as an LP, so it wasn't weird at the time.

>>215394592
>think about all the things we take for granted every day extremely smart White people came up with
ftfy

>>215398862
But a lot of this came from Japan as well

>>215398897
Philips (Dutch) invented the CD/DVD though.

>>215398917
Pioneer did the laser disc, Sony helped with CD

>>215393423
Pics or didn't happen

>>215394635
There are a lot of different video and especially so many different audio formats, that people have never heard of. Interesting stuff.

I miss the 90's so fucking much bros

I never even heard about laserdisc until James Rofle made a video about it around 2008. I guess it wasn't a think in my country. Everybody just used VHS in the 90s.

>>215393477
I remember when DVDs started coming out some stores sold DVD reader cleaner disks, like the VHS tapes that allegedly cleaned up your VHS player. Were those a scam? My parents had one for VHS but I never saw them use it once.

A couple of years ago, I gave my collection of ~80 laserdiscs to a cousin of mine who collects cool tech like that.
I loved watching them.
Having the disc switch sides mid-film -- having to switch discs mid-film... it was really fun actually. No, I am not being sarcastic.

>xbox huge papasan chair
>xbox huge bowl of popcorn
>xbox huge laserdisc
>BBBRRRRTT vvvvvvvvvv
>side B, hell yeah

>>215393768
kek I forgot all about that, some DVD intros were kino though, I'd milk every drop of entertainment out of those menus as a kid.

>>215394188
>Telnet server that'd output ASCII Star Wars
I remember our boomer IT teacher showing us that when he taught us the basics, cool moment for 9 year olds.

>>215393423
I've been watching some of my VHS collection lately and it's insane how poor the audio quality was. It's probably not worth starting a LD collection thanks to shit like laser/disc rot.

>>215394343
A lot of places had VCDs before DVDs for a few years, you'd have to swap to a different disc halfway for most movies, really fucked you over when a single one of the discs got scratched and you were left with half a movie.

>>215393376 (OP)
LASER-DISC
There's a movie on there.

>>215395013
>even the PlayStation 3 was picky
isn't even the ps4 this way? I remember putting stuff on a usb to watch a movie at a friends place and we had to first format the HDD right and then convert the file because it wasn't the right format.

VCDs were weird, I mostly just used them for monster generation fodder on Monster Rancher.

>>215399827
same, last year I was helping my parents move out and re-watched The Fox and the Hound on VHS, crazy how bad it was compared to the shittiest rip you find online today, but I think it gives the movie a bit more mystique somehow.

>>215393542
Disc rot only happens if your house is damp af

>>215393768
Some dvd players would override that. Iirc even the Xbox360 let you skip straight to the menu

>>215393423
I think I am just over 100 at this pojnt

>>215399955
I still pick up VHS tapes from thrift stores, since they're only $1 or less. I can take the audio hit, but it's all for the nostalgic novelty of popping a tape in and hearing the VCR do it's magic. It's still comfy, even if the sound is shitty.

>>215399956
Laserdiscs had a different kind of rot that was caused by laser burn-in on the surface of the disc. Most CDs and DVDs don't even experience rot from moisture and the ones that do were recovered from environments like flooded basements.

>>215399956
I can't keep laser discs at my place because I get your mom too wet every night

>>215393376 (OP)
It was pre-DVD and records never went away so it makes sense.

>>215393579
This is a disc cleaner that strips layer by layer in hopes of taking out scratches.

>>215400048
I don't think I could watch another movie on VHS anymore, but it was a nice hit of nostalgia as you say. Next time I touch those tapes will probably be when my parents die.
Weird that VHS didn't make a nostalgia comeback like analog mixtapes did though, I still see some record stores hand out actual mixtapes, although I think the important part now is the actual physical object and how it's customized.

>>215394423
>branch education
>video about a branch

>>215394635
I have a few of those. I also have some RCA magazines about the tech from when my dad worked for them. The research sinkhole for it was something that bankrupted the company.

>>215398741
I have been watching a few :3 like AD police, Battle Angel Alita, even saw Appleseed just the other day. I have a few laserdiscs but sadly mostly movies no OVAS.

>>215394900
Yeah. Even most people working at RCA didn't bother with it with employee store discounts.

>>215393891
>or how the fuck data is recorded on tape
You can record music and sound onto tape.
The notes of music can be considered data.
Computers are just really good at listening to music, and the "music" that is used to record shit ends up looking like one of those meme midis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tds0qoxWVss

>>215400126
Commercial cassette tapes came back for a while but I don't think anyone except r/vinyl bought them

>>215400211
>>215398741
I have a few Japanese movie and anime LDs, but with out subs. Might be neat to just watch raw or just have it on in the background.

>>215400221
my dad worked at RCA making laserdisks back in the 80s. he said everyone had the option to buy the laserdisk machines but would use their bonuses to go by VHS players instead.

>>215400234
Compact cassettes are decent for audio, but no cassette player today support high quality metal tapes

>>215400234
yeah the only place I ever saw them was record stores and the only people I've seen buy and use them are musician friends with amateur bands

>>215393423
YEAH MORE LIKE GAYSERDISCS

>>215400519
Chad Wardenn loved Laserdisc as much as the PS Triple

>>215400234
>>215400495
I got rid of my tapes the day I had a car with a CD player in it

Cassettes were just inferior to discs in every way

>>215400644
Cassettes and VHS are just objectively worse formats. An argument can be made for vinyl, I like the sound a lot and I have hundreds of records from my parents and my own collection but ultimately it's a fucking pain in the ass so I just listen to flac

>>215393376 (OP)
There's a movie on there.

>>215400745
Quality cassettes sound leagues better than vinyl. CDs are better than both, however.

>>215400853
Explain why people hated Elcaset. It offered the sound quality improvements from vinyl and reel-to-reel in a portable format
>>215400285
Late into the Laserdisc's life there were some companies considering upping the density and switching to digital transfers so the format could support HD video

>>215393744
Don't say that fuck you I said I'm sorry!

>>215393891
You could just Google and learn about it you fucking idiot

>>215393423
Based fuck zoomers

>>215393376 (OP)
>mogs your puny little disc

>>215393376 (OP)
I like movies with rainbows in them. Look at all the colors. It's pretty.

>>215393423
>>215397582
doesn't audio and video quality depend on file type and bitrate rather than what media is used though?

>>215401025
Nobody used Elcaset, while Dolby NR with chrome and metal tapes were widespread by the late '80s. Those tapes sounded great.

>>215401327
>laserdisc files are often 10+ GB
even mogs DVD, holy shit

>>215393423
Enjoy flipping your movie halfway, Loling at your life.

No one thought it was "the future" zoomer. Everyone knew that "some kind of video disc the size of a CD" was the future, but for now this giant disc is the best we can do.

>>215394642
nigger cd and laserdisc were literally just binary on a circular disc you utter fucking moron. vinyl was the sound wave

>>215393376 (OP)
It was only newvu upper middle class people that bought these as a flex on thier middle class friends.
The kind of people who drove a Toyota Avalon (lmao) but not a BMW or Mercedes

>>215393376 (OP)
I wish hipsters would bring these back like they did for vinyl records. The giant boxes are great for artwork and you can put all kinds of cool goodies in there.

>>215393891
Here
Basically all sounds are vibrations and if you can do Cone of sound>little needle>grooves of needle movement, you can do gooves of needle movement>little needle>cone of sound
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1IotjpIZvAg

>>215393891
1970s Sony engineers were literally the smartest people in the world at the time, that's how.

>>215399956
my house is always damp because of all the WET PUSSY i'm getting.

>>215393891
Have you ever seen a computer made in Minecraft? The grooves are like the notes of a musical sheet, and when the reader interprets it it can translate into a bit as easily as it can a note.

>>215400125
I worked at a video/dvd store that also bought used dvd. They had a giant buffer in the back and we had to buff all the scratched discs that got traded in so they could then sell them. Buffing them was pretty comfy because I just loaded the machine and watched movies.

>>215402614
It may have been a similar but different process because I had to cover them in a white goo and I think that's what filled the cracks/scratches, but think it also stripped the layers.

>>215393423
600? Very impressive.

>>215398732
desu that sounds comfy as fuck. I'd do it out of a van or something though.

>>215393956
A carrier wave modulated by the signal wave. I suggest reading up or watching some videos on how AM works as that is probably the simplest to understand. From there it should be easier to understand FM and broadcast television.

>>215393376 (OP)
Laserdisc is the kino Star Wars version.

>>215393376 (OP)
>>215393423
>the vinyl record of movie formats
I mean that in a good way, mostly because it's more fun to collect and display them vs CDs/Blu Rays

>>215402355
I understand the basic, but I don’t get how they combine multiple sounds, like a drum kit, a singer ad a gititar that all have different wave lengths into a single record grove

>>215393499
i was looking for a post like this, cheers anon

>>215402790
They were all young guys too as I remember it, I was a postman for a summer in college, really fun job if you're fit.

>>215393376 (OP)
>Lmao, imagine thinking this giant piece of shit was the future format even in 1990.
I mean why the fuck would you think otherwise at the time?
>16mb of flash memory is a few hundred bucks
>700mb on a cheap disc

>>215402995
>that all have different wave lengths
Stereo is just the whole song split into two, it doesn't have "the drum groove" and "the guitar groove" and doesn't need more and more grooves with more instrument
It's just 1 song 1 big sound wave length, encoded in a tricky way in the V shaped groove (needle goes side to side in the groove, but also up and down, so you have read as two channels)

>>215403096
It was always niche even at the time.
VHS had been out for years and filled the need for home video collection or your average for the time tv just fine, and everyone already owned the system.
It was kind of like trying to sell flac for $30-$50 pop (average price of laserdisc 1990) verses mp3 for $8-25 a pop (average price of vhs 1990j.
Almost everyone is happy with the mp3. Also the non-mp3 system is also much more expensive .

lel, why would you see things getting smaller and think big is the way to go?

Imagine seething over 50 year old technology

>>215403177
That didn’t address my question at all

>>215403277
That's how 90% of all flashdrives in existance were lost between 2004 and 2015
Sometimes being smaller doesn't mean is better, you should know this already
Because of your penis
Small penis

>>215393891
Total millennial annihilation.

>>215394115
The good news is that everything will just keep getting worse!

>>215403344
What a retarded anogogy

>>215403319
I did
And you did
If a a drum kit, a singer ad a gititar that all have different wave lengths, then that means it's all different groove lengths
If a drum kit groove is 145 and a singer groove is 368, and you hear them together, the sound is not "145 and 368", it's 543
It's a different sound with unique groove, you don't have a 147 channel and a 368 channel
Just because YOU can single them out in your ear "the drum has been playing steadily" doesn't men the machine has to single them out

>>215393891
Go to Technology Connections youtube channel

>>215403277
Phone companies did. I miss tiny phones.

>>215394592
*that white people came up with

>>215400126
I grew up with vhs and cassettes so I still have some interest in them but nobody else in my generation seems to care about actually owning their media.

t. zoom zoom

>>215393376 (OP)
Laser Discs were the superior format for movies at the time. In the 90s my dad owned a business for custom home theaters. The thing that sucked was having to flip the disc over because there was only 60mins per side. We got a DVD player in 1997, I would say DVD was a better format. I would say LDs quality was highly dependent on the player, a good LD player would give you picture quality comparable to DVD, and better color. Also using quality cables helped. I still just think they’re cool.

>>215403663
it just became too inconvenient when a cheap, sub-par solution worked that solved all your problems in the short term. I found that when I only had VHS, I would cherish and boast about my collection because a lot of it was stuff I'd recorded on-air, making it way more personal. We'd also trade tapes almost every week, rare tapes or curated collections would have a reputation that went well beyond your friend circle. Once DVDs became common, this kinda faded imo, it became cheap, especially if you lived in an area with counterfeit or trafficked DVD sellers. Then finally with streaming, everything is a click away and thus has no value. I still love my boxsets, but even for stuff I own I will probably just torrent the whole series or movies because it's faster and more convenient, normies do the same with streaming.

It's sad to see physical media go away but it makes sense, no one really cares about owning the stuff they are enjoying until they can't access it anywhere anymore.

>>215403344
just cuz youre retarded and lose things doesnt mean everyone does y'know

>>215393376 (OP)
>Just sign up for our 50 digital streaming services
>We totally haven't altered or removed scenes or entire episodes from your films or tv series
>Also we wont force you to watch add even though you paid to not watch ads

>>215404054
pay?

You get better quality with BD rips anyway

>>215398223
It's called a VCR you dolt. No one ever called them "vhs players" before like 2012.

>>215405475
Wow look at the rich faggot who could record VHS

>>215393376 (OP)
I remember my parents owned Fantasia on laserdisc when I was a kid and it was absolutely kino

>>215393376 (OP)
my friend had hentai in these fucking things, the cover was literally tentacle rape.

>>215393891
You're a retard and I'm embarrassed I'm in the same generation as you.

>>215393891
If you know that freehand, then it would help rebuilding the world when it ends.

>>215393477
The dual sides of the laserdisc made things tricky; people didn't want to rewind both sides.

>>215393376 (OP)
i didn't know for long time that there was another medium between vhs and dvd,for how long did it exist?

>>215405755
A fellow man of culture I see.