What are some good games that depict female loneliness and depression?

>>712553691 (OP)
Women basically never get lonely and depressed. They don’t exist socially in the conditions for that to happen to them.

>>712554524
women are more than just their bodies

>>712553691 (OP)
>female loneliness and depression

>>712554778
That post had nothing to do with the physical aspects of women.

>>712554778
I didn’t say they were only their bodies.

Parasite Flower, if Youtube is to be believed.

DDLC

>>712553691 (OP)
>Female loneliness
I cant get the exact person I want.
>Male loneliness
I cant get no one.

>>712554808
do you guys really think the average manbro wants anything more than just sex sex and sex
the female condition is giving yourself to a man, getting used, and then discarded because he saw a hotter more docile looking bitch. that's female loneliness right there.

>>712553691 (OP)
>female loneliness and depression
YWNBAW

>>712553691 (OP)
"Female loneliness" is basically just celebrity loneliness
>everyone loves me and I have all my needs met AAAAAHHHHH I'M GOING INSANE

>>712555747
Thats basically all men
The only handsome men that stay loyal are never ever charming lol,its always the weirdo shy type Chad like Henry Cavill.
Extroverted handsome man which is what every woman wants just keep branching from woman to woman and cheating because they can.
Only old extroverted Chads stay loyal because of less options.

>>712553691 (OP)
female loneliness and depression is basically
>chad thundercock fucked me once and now I'm in love and no one else will ever come close, I'll let these hundred other guys fuck me on the side while I continue obsessing over the first chad who fucked my brains out and dumped my ass I'm so lonely and depressed while I continue sucking and fucking hundred other guys to cope

Men that think we can't get lonely or depressed are imagining women as men with tits, but that's not how it works. Getting casual sex without commitment would probably just make you feel more lonely and depressed. Male friendships are also healthier and more real overall.

>>712553691 (OP)
here's your lonely and depressed gf bro

>>712553691 (OP)
>>712553691 (OP)
Are there any movies about female loneliness?

>>712556778
Mulholland Drive

Games about lonely girls aren't allowed, all female characters need to be empowered.

>>712556778
Blue Is The Warmest Color

>>712556760

>>712556778
Baise-Moi

>>712554524
I've met quite a few "lonely" women, what's funny about it is that in almost all cases rather than any social problem it's mental illness that makes them end up alone.
depressed lonely women are never as alone as your random lonely man

>>712553691 (OP)
first game was genuinely good, I don't know why they made the main character some cute anime girl that was a retarded move

>>712556778
Hehe. Someone noticed

>>712556496
Holy incel batman

>>712556865
>>712556927
Post tits

>>712556927
But like 20% of that movie is hardcore sesbian lex.

>>712555747
Sometimes I fantasize about having a gf to cry on her shoulder.

>>712556760
Still would. Girls with that hairstyle are my biggest weakness.

>>712557095
Best one yet.

>>712557338
Check your testosterone levels son.I never think that.
I did 3 days ago,test at 792 which is on the higher end,feels good.

>>712557416
Fag

>>712557012
Girls basically cosplay as disheveled weebs like they’re Tomoko Kuroki because it’s another avenue for male attention. It’s a costume they know men find attractive, and they hope to fool them into seeing them as something to take care of.

>>712555747
>the female condition is giving yourself to a man, getting used, and then discarded because
you explicitly chose to give yourself to a guy who VERY OBVIOUSLY was just putting up with you so he could have sex with you.
IF YOU WERE DATING UGLY AND/OR AWKWARD MEN THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE

>>712557338
had that at some point, and it is the best feeling, you'll find her soon anon

>>712557521
I remember doing a test a few years ago, I think the doctor said that I have too much of testosterone.

>>712555747
>only go after chads and tyrones who want to plap a wet hole and leave
>why are men like this
every time i think women arent the jews of gender i see a post like this to remind me

>>712557710
>her

>>712556778
Amelie

>>712556760
>nighttime meds with starbucks
I will never not seethe.

>>712557595
Ririgaki until people found out she hot blacked

>>712553691 (OP)
Reminder

>>712558212
yup. i did this in school..

>>712557592
>Obsession with monkeys
Is this about the 1 gorilla vs 100 men thing?

>>712558212
This doesn't even bother me anymore because being around girls in school was such a long time ago and I've made much worse mistakes since then.

>>712557170
I'm a man.

>>712558212
I never had a girl in school talk with me. Not a single time. I'm THAT ugly apparently.

>>712557710
I think it's already too late for me. I'm not even young anymore, not to mention nobody wants a broken man.

>>712553691 (OP)
>What are some good games that depict female loneliness and depression?
Project Nortubel

>>712558504
Girls used to make fun of me for being "weird".

>>712556630
I can sympathize with that. But at the same time I'm a male virgin in my 30s which makes me less than human in the eyes of most people.

>>712554778
True. They are also their bodycounts.

>>712558530
same bruh
>t. just turned 23

>>712555747
>average manbro wants anything more than just sex sex and sex
those are not even 50% of males.
just pick a random geek / nerd / not extroverted guy, he's 100% going to be starved for intimacy with 0 standards for women and will become emotionally dependent instantly

>>712558212
>tfw girls only catholic high school teacher

>>712558653
Now make it 33

>>712558212
>I was too scared to confess to a sexy asian girl in elementary school (I'm euro so they're kinda rare)
>She whored herself later
>Idk if I dodged a bullet or could have saved her

>>712558212
Dumb bitch should have said something.

>>712553691 (OP)
About the same about male loneliness and depression.

This is a complex holistic process that has more universal dynamics than the usual male/female divide might give the impression to and can be better seen through cultural and existential lenses. Now, games that actually do this well I am going to go out on a limb and say none.

>>712558883
>pseudo babble
I'm not reading that.

>>712553691 (OP)
Kill yourself

>>712558653
>>712558530
too late is not a thing, no matter how fucked up you are you truly never are beyond saving, it's not over until you stop trying
being broken in a few ways just means you're a real person.
t. former homeless drug addict

>>712558819
The former!

Repeal the 19th

>>712559197
Also send them to the front lines, let them get mulched in the meatgrinder.

>>712558530
nobody wants a broken man.
Wrong
Nobody wants an HONEST Broken man
But an ASSHOLE Broken man usually gets his way.

If you are an honest man you cant be Broken you have to simple be better than the rest,mainly because men are meant to help others not be helped(especially by women), its how society works,tough luck

>>712558991
I just fucking hate this idea
>Oh I'm male/female everything revolves so much about being of some sex or the other that it is like I am a completely different species that experiences the world in such an alien way that there is way I concede or admit or even think about how the other side might be similar to me
You grew up with a different chromosome, yes there are differences but now somehow, you have turned those differences into your whole life when that is barely a fraction of what made you human and is more about culture than a completely different outlook in life.

>>712558662
You say that those men aren't even 50% of males and you tell him to pick the group that it's more prone to sexual degeneracy?

>>712559397
>unironic alpha male grindset post
lonely men that are really in the pit and being fed this garbage all off themselves retard

>>712559125
I'm past saving because I genuinely see no path towards enjoying this world. I realized I enjoyed being shut off from the world more than being in it.

>>712558883
>>712559581
105 IQ midwit post

>>712559836
Keep bitching around like a woman then .
Pathetic,you even lost your male pride.
Men of themselves because this is the reality and no one will be able to change societies paradigm so just accept it,work with it.
No one cares for you except you if you are a man.

The good thing is that if you make it as a man you are basically better than 99% of women in all aspects of life.
The bad part is that ITS ALL YOU.

>>712560268
Change it to 100% of women.

>>712555747
>go out of your way to date bad boys
>surprised when they pump and dump you or treat you like shit
The sexual revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Marry daughters off again

>>712559891
I understand, and shutting the world out is easier than risking anything, but there's no peace in isolation just numbness, it's not real
you probably don't see a way out but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you're just in a hole right now
i'm glad you're still alive anon

>>712555747
>do you guys really think the average manbro wants anything more than just sex sex and sex
yes, what foids like you don't understand is that men have to deal with being driven insane by SEX SEX SEX hormones on top of having to deal with the social needs foids have

>>712553691 (OP)
fuck off zoe

>>712555747
i think you're just a poor judge of character

>>712555747
so exactly what happens to most men? Difference being there's nothing lost and usually something gained for women.

>>712557338
bad idea

>>712553691 (OP)
reminder that the milk girl is canonically 24 years old as stated by the creator of the game nikita kryukov in the official milk discord server

>>712559125
Not him but I don't know what I could even do to save myself. I'm a virgin in my mid 30s and I blew my only chance at getting a loser NEET gf and at this point I won't get another chance.

>>712558212
doesn't happen.

>>712555747
>do you guys really think the average manbro wants anything more than just sex sex and sex
That only applies to men from 18 to mid 30 because of our growth hormones. If you can meet a guy who can keep that under wraps then you'll realize most men ahve a lot more on the mind.

Female loneliness exists. It’s just a bit different from male loneliness:

Male loneliness= No one notices I even exist.

Female loneliness= No one cares about me as a person, and at best only feigns interest in me to get in my pants.

>>712563856
well, damn, by that definition, it's the same for men. Men are only cared about when they provide something.

>>712563856
so? Femoids have intimacy and relationship on demand. Why should I feel bad for them?

>>712564037
If I girl approaches you and starts talking, are you going to tell her how you actually feel? You'd expect her to act like a whore, so girls that aren't that suffer because everyone keeps their guards up.

>>712564356
and why is that the expectation?

>>712564037
Because there’s no “intimacy” in that relationship. It’s all fake and performative. Being valued for nothing except your ability to put out is soul destroying once you realise that’s the only value people see in you (value which for many people fades with time, which is why a lot of slutty women end up washed up crazy cat ladies in their old age if they did nothing but bank on shallow sex appeal).

>>712563974
That’s also true. The point is that it sucks for both genders, just in slightly different ways.

>>712563245
>>712564356
women are selfish

>>712564545
Because in more cases than not it's the right call. It's still an obstacle to people making real connections.

>>712564625
>it sucks for everyone, it just sucks by a factor of two for one of the genders as opposed to the other, but everyone has I bad!

>>712563856
>No one cares about me as a person
Cause modern women are insufferably childish, immature and self centered narcissists who have no real personality of their own and simply mimic what they think will garner them sympathy and companionship, they constantly seek the approval of others because they have nothing to offer besides their bodies which they show off through social media but then cry victim about muh "sexual objectification". Femoids are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

>>712553691 (OP)
Why didn’t she consider online people to be real friends?

>>712557646
you say this but you wouldn't go for an ugly or fat girl or at least not be with her without yearning for something better

>>712565138
men date down all the time lmao

What's worse being able to materialize chocolate out of nothing and having everibody pester you for sweets,
or being unable to stop thinking about eating chocolate, on a biological level,
and all people in society have to be one of the two.

>>712555747
You chose to be a whore and gets your just desserts because of it. Go fuck yourself, you cretin.

Bots working overtime

>>712554524
Even a beautiful woman can shut themselves in. Autism, schizophrenia, depression, goonitis. It's harder for a guy to break through these things because we are supposed to be men, most women go through their lives being treated like children.

>>712565692
I don’t think people realise how annoying it is to be constantly pestered for something until it actually happens to them. Unfortunately, the nature of male loneliness means that the grass looks greener on the other side for them.

Get a clingy BPD gf who gives you zero space. Then you’ll understand how quickly constant attention its novelty.

>>712565950
Bots have made people forget what actual autism looks like.

>>712554808
This can only be true on the internet where a woman can glorify her loneliness for the purpose of male attention. Most women don't get approached by guys. Why do you think a lot of them are on dating apps.

>>712559891
If you're at that point, instead figure out how to make the world worse for the people around you.

>>712565134
Because she had issues and the top on that she got cyberbullied too if I remember right
>>712565950
Not bot post, just regular shitpost that originally came from /tv/. Similar to the Dark Knight Joker one

>>712566206
It’s not that women don’t get approached a lot. It’s that the guys who approach them are usually creeps and people who just want to use them as cum dumpsters. What that comic ignores is the fact that a lot of those men will just be pretending to be nice so they can get laid. They’re like the male equivalent of gold diggers.

>>712566149
Every lonely guy thinks they want a clingy girlfriend. She was probably the best girl I ever dated but something about her being so into me felt odd, like I didn't deserve it. I kind of regret leaving her for another girl who was insanely distant personality wise, the whole thing fizzled out after a month or two.

>>712566191
>>712566418
These bots scrape the archives for new threads to make 4chan seem more popular to advertisers than it really is. Also why the ip count was taken down. Screencap this post and return to it 5 years from now when the truth comes out.

>>712566664
True. Most guys are weird as fuck. I'd be lonely too if I was a lady.

The question is, why do men think they're entitled to sex to the point they get childishly mad if they don't get it? Maybe your genes just aren't meant to be passed down.

>>712566936
Is it entitlement or is it a primal urge? If a caveman wasnt getting pussy, he'd just hit a girl in the head with a rock and do his business. Majority of guys wouldn't do that nowadays so thats why they get pissy.

>>712563856
Female loneliness is based on delusions of grandeur. 5/10 women will spend ages 16-30 getting their backs blown out by 8-9/10 men they find on hookup apps hoping that one of them will stick around and put a ring on it. When none do, suddenly all men are bad and serial users.

>>712566936
I don't think I'm entitled to it, but nature is a bitch. I just want to be a shut-in and play video games but then your body makes you feel like shit for not being with someone. If I'm not meant to pass down my genes, nature shouldn't make me feel bad for avoiding something I should be avoiding.

>>712564356
>You'd expect her to act like a whore, so girls that aren't that suffer because everyone keeps their guards up
I read this 3 times and still it makes zero sense

>>712566891
I actually learned this because I’m a bisexual guy, and I found that trying to date men can be even harder than trying to date women because a lot of guys (gay guys especially) are absolute degenerates who only care about instant gratification sex, and that’s saying a lot considering I’m a horny mf myself.

It made me see where the women who say “men are trash” are coming from, even if the expression is really hyperbolic.

>>712567261
Most guys probably would if they weren’t raised with some semblance of civility. It’s why a lot of 3rd world shitholes have an ungodly high amount of rapists.

>>712566936
Some women act entitled to sex too. I think entitlement isn't really a problem specific to sex, it's a personality flaw that's going to fuck it's owner up in every part of life.

>>712566936
The issue is with women that don’t understand they’re not, and can’t be, our friends. In a man’s eyes they’re marriage candidates and nothing more. Frustration stems from this disconnect of women leading men on without realizing it because they mistakenly think they’re seen as equals. Men are sick of wasting their time on a woman when she never had any interest.

>>712565138
Guys will look past that as long as you're not morbidly obese. My GF is chubby with almost no tits but I could care less because I like her as a person and she's not a vapid whore.

>women should just drain the man's wallet for free
why is it such a chore for women to make men happy when men are already sacrificing something

>>712567652
Men and women CAN be friends if it’s clear from the outset that there’s absolutely no chance of a romantic relationship happening between them.

This is why men who have lasting friendships with women are friends with women who are already taken by someone else. It’s when the possibility of “friends to lovers” enters the picture that the waters get muddied.


I will say this however:
Anyone who tells you that you can be friends with an ex is straight up lying. Once you cross that bridge, you can’t uncross it. You have to either get back together or cut them out of your life entirely.

>>712566936
nigga I want pussy I don't care about offspring
typical rabbits looking down on people just because they fuck all the time
kys

>>712568045
I mean, the whole “men don’t like fat chicks” belief doesn’t have the same relevance it used to since chubby chicks are “in” now. It’s gotten to the point where a woman has to be a literal immobile blob for a man not to like her, and even then there’s fetishists into that too.

>>712563856
>No one cares about me as a person
But are you a person? Using social media and applying peer pressure is not a personality. In all likelihood, there is nothing to talk about you with.
Males bothering with you aren't "refusing to see you as a person", they are willing to look past your complete lack of personality.

>>712566936
Most women respond to rejection significantly worse than men because they're not used to it

I will die as a virgin

>>712567652
That’s such a warped way of viewing human interaction, bro. Not every woman is leading you on just because she’s nice or talks to you. You’re not owed romantic potential just because you exist in the same room as her. Women thinking they can be friends with men isn’t delusion—it’s basic humanity. If a guy can’t handle that without projecting relationship fantasies onto everything, that’s his problem, not hers. You want honesty? Learn to manage your damn expectations.

>>712568558
Most people in general are vapid and uninteresting, regardless of gender. It’s a normie thing rather than a sex thing.

>>712567652
>>712568243
This is easy to fix if the man makes it clear that he doesn't want to be friends with a woman though. If you don't want to be friends with her you shouldn't waste her time either.
Make your move early on, don't be a creep about it and if she's not interested move on to the next one.

>>712568243
It's not a friendship. A female just uses a male for attention and as an emotional tampon. Man gets absolutely nothing out of it, because females are boring as shit and interacting with them is a waste of time.

An actual friendship between a male and a female is an extremely rare occurrence that require a female in question to have abnormal personality in first place, and in case it actually exists, it is given that those people should marry, because neither of them will ever find a better candidate.

>>712569014
The best feelings in my life has been the short times I've interacted with girls like kissing, hugging, or just talking, that's enough for me

>>712569105
That's because it was a physiological response which is supposed to motivate you to fuck them. Without that part, the rest is worthless.

>>712569345
girls can in rare times have the same hobbies as you though

>>712569407
That anon doesn't have hobbies.

>>712569014
What you’re describing is what happens when the man entertains the notion of a romantic relationship with a woman who isn’t interested.

Actually healthy male to female friendships just have them banter and talk about shared interests. And that becomes far more likely if neither side has any expectation of things becoming romantic. Again, it’s why married couples tend to get along with other married couples.

>>712569439
I skipped to the end

I dated an actual lonely+depressed girl once
Never again

>>712569345
It's a normal human response to feel good when you connect with another human

>>712554778
No they aren't

>>712568756
You’re projecting things I didn’t imply. There’s nothing I said about being owed anything. Women do not inherently owe a man anything. It’s simply about the nature of sexual attraction. Women are for romance and marriage. This is how men view them even if they try to fool themselves otherwise. They’re not equals. The biological drive for sex and having kids overrides any silly idea of friendship. One party will almost always catch feelings and complicate things. And men tend to be more aware of their intentions, whereas women are not. This leads to annoying situations where a man thinks a woman is interested after a long period of interaction only to learn it was just friendship to her. She’s not a bad person, nor does she owe him anything. It’s miscommunication.

>>712566936
Because my body and brain scream at me that I need companionship and that if I fail to achieve it I might as well kill myself.

>>712553691 (OP)
>female loneliness and depression

>>712558530
boo hoo fag a mystery why no bitch wants you

>>712554778
Do you have a PubMed article to back that up?

>female
>she
>her

>>712568451
>chubby chicks are “in” now.
They're "in" because men have no fucking choice.

>>712558662
thats not true i talk to nerdy guys and theyre all like "yeah haha i want to pay for my wife's luxurious boobjob and then get to enjoy it" and its gross, anon is right guys literally only think about sex and the guys who dont are already taken, its almost impossible to find a good guy if your not a teenager

>>712574070
Ragebait

>>712563856
>>712564625
I would sympathise with you if I didn't know you were purposefully ignoring normal loving men your whole life to go for the exact type of person that's like this. Not to be corny because this line has been abused to death but everywhere you look the nice guy absolutely does finish last. When you do not seek security and love in the first place, I just can't feel bad for you.

>>712567652
You're completely right but they genuinely can't comprehend this

>>712574647
it's literally true lol

>>712569953
Story?

>>712556428
You know this is not the case, right? No matter if its "available" as an "option", some give a shit about a devoted relationship with one woman rather than pounding the next piece of ass just because you can.

>>712574070
There are guys who don't care as much about sex but if they're not taken then there's probably a good reason for that. I have a low sex drive and would like a partner for companionship but I also have crippling anxiety so I'll never find one.

>>712575313
I don't care what a discord whore with 30 orbiters thinks about men. Maybe that guy is a fucking weirdo, it doesn't fucking matter, the other guys in your DMs are probably awkward, nerdy, have no friends, and will dedicate their lives to you if you just treat them well. I fucking despise how easy you have it, it's just not fair.

>>712575420
im very anxious too anon but im a tranny so my market isnt very large to begin with
>>712575463
it's not like that at all, it's true that its probably easier for women to get laid than it is for men but it's impossible to find emotional intimacy because guys are plagued with their sex sex sex hormones in 90% cases and will literally refuse to engage with you and just throw you away as soon as someone younger and prettier comes along

>>712574070
>>712575313
>>712575463
>>712575790
You know what? I don't actually care about harassing you or changing your mind, it is what it is. I am biased by my own experiences, you're biased by yours, it's just a bit pointless. Instead, give me some advice femanon. I'm genuinely just looking for companionship. My sex drive is low, I'm not even motivated by it. I have been friend zoned and/or rejected about 8 times over the past year, once with a girl I was talking to for 6 months (No, I did not tell her after waiting 6 months, I told her a couple of weeks in, she just kept leading me on and it never went anywhere). What do you think my mistake would be without knowing anything else? What should I do differently if all I want is genuinely just a loving, loyal partner? If you were an early 20s nerdy guy with some social issues but who really wasn't sex crazed or looking for a fleshlight, what would you do to get a girlfriend?

>>712554524
>>712554808
Depression doesn't just stem from loneliness, it can also come from trauma or hormonal imbalances

>>712553691 (OP)
>female loneliness
no such thing

>>712574070
You are a retarded whore or a retarded tranny

>>712575917
NTA, but you're either not attractive, don't have a charming personality or are poor.
Fix any of these areas and you're golden.

>>712576052
>Depression doesn't just stem from loneliness
depression is faulty exchange of Serotonine and Dopamine in your brain synapses
why do most people think depression = sad? you are retarded

>>712576153
You'd think that, but making friends is really hard when you're convinced that no one likes you.

>>712576368
Honestly yeah, pretty basic but golden advice. I definitely do have to work on myself. Rejection is just soul crushing man, the standards for men are just way higher.

>>712575917
i think you should find a girl who you get along with and show an interest in her interests and hobbies, and treat her as a person, and honestly a little bit is just luck to see if you get along well enough, if you both enjoy spending time together thats probably a good sign
also just because you get along well that doesnt mean that she will like you by default she doesnt owe you that and you dont owe her it either, and depending on the person it is a little important that you like the way she looks and vice versa, i'm not saying you have to be the worlds most attractive person but just being eachothers general type is something thats probably kinda needed for a more long term relationship
some women are evil anon and i'm sorry that she led you on, i'm bi and my ex gf did the same thing for years and it's just cruel and evil
in general it all varies a bit depending on the person but these are things i find important, getting along well and not being NOT attracted (and once again its not like a chad thing just general types of people right, like personally I really like beards but thats not really an attractiveness thing by itself its just my personal preference I hope that makes sense), with enjoying spending time together and WANTING to do it being probably at the very top of my list
it's a little hard to formulate my thoughts properly because i'm kinda fucking stupid and a little scatterbrained

>>712576589
It probably is true though, no one likes you. If you were a man, no one would give a fuck about you. But you're not, so get over it and use the fact that every male is sex crazed to your advantage.

>>712576848
I can't: i have no sex appeal whatsoever

gaming

>>712576628
Be glad you're at least able to experience rejection. Some of us don't even have that.

>>712575917
>>712576368
Not either of those anons, the second anon has a kernel of truth in a whole lot of shit.
>attractive
People like all types, so its not so much about being blessed to be some sort of adonis, but rather at least try and take care of yourself - your body, your skin etc. The anon who's showering before a date with clean and washed hair and skin is far more likely to be perceived as attractive than if you roll out of bed smelling of booze, cigs, or weed, forget to throw on deodorant, and stuff your pockets full of spaghetti to spill. You don't need to be some stereotype of perfection, but just try put in a little effort especially when you're trying to ask that cute girl out, and especially when you are spending time with her. There is a HUGE industry here in trying to get you to buy huge amounts of stuff to "improve" yourself, but don't get bogged down that way. There is some minutia depending on personal physical characteristics, but you come across as a lot more charming and attractive if you look like you've put in even a tiny bit of effort for a special event. Note that you want to balance this with still looking "normal' - just like you want a woman who still likes you when you're not dressed up if you like to sit around all day playing vidya, the same way a woman doesn't want a dude who only thinks she's hot with tons of makeup, push-up bras, and club-girl thottery clothing.
>Charming
This is the biggest thing and the easiest - and hardest -one to change. You can spend all your time LIFT BRO and go from fat to a human toe but women will be no more attractive to you. However, if she has a good time talking with you, then that's going to do 90% of the work for you
>Poor
There are tons of poor people fucking. Many of them even fuck rick people, but mostly each other. I'll move on from the idiocracy joke area and say poor is not the problem, stupid w/ $, spendthrift etc. can be but only for long term relationships

>>712577114
>i have no sex appeal whatsoever
NTA, but sex appeal doesn't matter if you're looking to make friends. Especially when it comes to online friendships.
What games do you play? What manga do you read? What shows do you follow?
Find someone who has roughly the same interests as you and you're basically already friends.

>>712577370
>poor is not the problem
I was more talking about golddiggers being an option if all else fails.
Then again, I guess in this economy that's a thing of the past.

>>712574070
>guys literally only think about sex
Is that supposed to be a problem bitch? A healthy man has physiological needs that have to be relieved. If you're looking for some cuck eunuch to be your luggage lad (which is what females refer to as a male "friend"), you can eat shit.

Previous editions of OP's general:
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/WC9Cy2c8ROq_vEjNY4VeiA/type/op/

>>712577706
It's just a topic starter, bro. Get over yourself.

>>712577803
I hope you kill yourself, troon

>>712577912
Ah, you're mentally ill. My condolences.

>>712577606
Ah, okay. That does make some sense, but much like the femanons who feel lonely with a dude who only is after them for sex when they want companionship, this anon and many others would probably hate goldiggers even if they had the means to support one financially; its even worse than not having any relationship because its a "fake" one that its only there so long as you keep buying them new shit; you're just a wallet to them.

In this era if someone just wants to fuck or paypig or whatever there are ways to do that, but if you represent yourself as looking for an actual relationship yet only look for "generous" men fiscally, its no better than a dude who claims that he loves some chick and wants to listen to her poetry and talk about her day, just barely long enough so he can fuck her. Similar principle of dishonesty (or in some cases outright horribleness, but if someone goes into that and is okay with it fully knowing, well.. then I guess that's up to them if they date someone who says so from the start.

>>712577943
>>712577912

>>712577641
no, you can think about sex, i think about sex too and i wouldnt want to be in a relationship without it but like when its all you fucking think about and every conversation somehow ends up as like flirting and asking me for something thats just objectifying and too much
the difference between sex existing and existing for sex is obvious for women lol

>>712576589
I'm trapped in the same mindset but I keep reminding myself that it's all in my head and it mostly works.

>>712578102
>this anon and many others would probably hate goldiggers even if they had the means to support one financially
Correct, but the alternative is crushing loneliness for the rest of your life.
Most would choose a fake kind of companionship over that.
>if you represent yourself as looking for an actual relationship yet only look for "generous" men fiscally
This is pretty much all women nowadays. Because why wouldn't you do this? You have men nearly killing each other just to be with you.

>>712578315
>and every conversation somehow ends up as like flirting and asking me
Bitch, sex is THE main thing over which males bother to interact with you. Everything else is a bonus that has any meaning only if sex is present. Your unarguably rich and interesting personality just seems like a mockery and an insult it you're wasting a man's time but don't put out. You're aware that you're supposed to put out by 3rd date or any self-respecting man would consider you using him as a cuck paying for meals, right?

You are not supposed to get mad about it bitch, because it's like getting mad about water being wet. That's how human physiology works. If you don't like it, go complain to whoever created human physiology.

>>712578893
well i want a BOYFRIEND first and in my world that is emotional intimacy and companionship and thats what i want from a relationship anon, sex is part of it but its just one part of many and they are never interested in the rest they just see it as a vehicle to put their fucking dicks inside me and its so fucking gross i am a full person i am not just there to make your penis feel good i have my own emotional needs and wants i am not cucking someone and making them pay for my meals i just want a best friend boyfriend anon

>>712579097
>they are never interested in the rest
Ahem.
>>712557646
>IF YOU WERE DATING UGLY AND/OR AWKWARD MEN THIS WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE

Women should have zero say in how anything is run. No agency whatsoever, not even a little.

>>712579097
>i want a BOYFRIEND first and in my world that is emotional intimacy and companionship and thats what i want from a relationship anon
Then put out bitch. All of it can only exist on the foundation of your genitals being available (unless a male is a subhuman simp faggot who has no respect for himself).

>they just see it as a vehicle to put their fucking dicks inside me and its so fucking gross i am a full person
It seems to me that it's just kind of men you pick. I am willing to bet large sums of money, that men actually interested in a long-term relationship approached you, but you told them to fuck off because they weren't exciting enough and didn't make your cunt itch.

>>712568243
This. I've had close female friends and it worked out really well because neither of us were attracted to the other.

>>712568243
>Men and women CAN be friends if it’s clear from the outset that there’s absolutely no chance of a romantic relationship happening between them.
Repeating this because people need to get this through their heads.

i'm going to explain it as simply as i can for the white knights itt
women might have more people chasing them for their bodies, but they could just look for someone who doesn't, and it's basically a guarantee that they would show interest too. men, on the other hand, are lucky to even talk to a woman after the first conversation, and are even luckier to find someone who likes them back, and we have to hold on to that for dear life because it's basically a once in a lifetime experience for everyone who isn't chad mcthundercock. that's why women can't be lonely, because they can actually cast a wide net, while we have to be happy that women talk to us at all. hope it helps

>>712565692
underrated

>>712578416
>Alternative is crushing loneliness
but it isn't. I mean, you can literally buy a prostitute for the physical stuff if you don't mind spending money and there's also a lot of tindr one night stand or fuckbuddy shit out there if thats what they want - at least people are up front about it.
>all women, why not?
It really isn't just like those noted here. First, even if we put aside ethical concerns to the harm it does to the guy, there are lots of women that would feel cheap and shitty whoring themselves in all but name. Having a sugar daddy who's only keeping you around until he gets bored of your hole and finds a younger or more interesting or less annoying one to throw the same money at, isn't a long term relationship plan. So lots of women don't want that kind of interaction, atop those who don't want to treat a guy like a cash machine who only wants a committed girlfriend etc.

>>712579189
i talk to plenty of awkward guys, i LIKE that, as long as youre passionate about something it's so attractive like even the kinda soiboys you see on like tiktok where this guy like has a whole room full of star wars lego and is brainstorming how to make the minis as accurate as possible like that shit is so fucking cute and i love it and i dont really care if theyre like ugly as long as they are still generally my type, because i know i'm not the prettiest girl on the planet but like i said in another post there are some things i like that arent like an attractiveness thing like having a beard for example is something i really really like and is almost a must for me, trust me my standards are so fucking low that my friends get ANGRY with me for talking to guys that according to them are so fucking scummy and far below me but i literally do not care except when all they want from me is SEX
>>712579448
omfg my genitals ARE available but i am MORE than just my genitals and i dont want to feel like thats all I fucking am thats the entire issue anon and ive talked to so many fucking guys, and almost all of them are weird about it somehow but im bi and i start talking to one girl and theres NONE of that and the most i get told is that she wants to hug me and hold me when she sleeps why cant guys just be like that
anon all i want is to be the only place some guy dumps his load for the rest of his fucking life but there is more to life than just dumping loads
ps im a tranny so theres no cunt to itch.

>>712579097
Retard

>>712580021
>tranny
you're a dude in a dress
no one here believes in your delusions and your opinion is irrelevant you aren't a woman

>>712579797
>you can literally buy a prostitute
Ah, I see where the disconnect lies: you don't understand the difference between lust and love.
Having sex does not sate the loneliness most men are suffering from.
>there are lots of women that would feel cheap and shitty whoring themselves in all but name
You're kidding, right? God, I seriously hope you're just trolling or something.
Yes, women exist that aren't whores. I'd say around 2 to 3% of women are like that?
In other words, their existence is inconsequential, as there is more demand than supply.

>>712553691 (OP)
I NEED to marry Milk chan and repopulate Russia to its former glory

>>712579787
1 is infinitely larger than 0

>>712580026
why am i a retard

>>712558212
Someone should edit this to change the girl crying caption to "Nobody" and it would be dead on accurate

>>712554524
this. when a woman claims she's lonely and/or depressed, it's just yet another way to seek validation from her dozen or so orbiters.

>>712580021
I think your problem is that you're looking at one thing (on social media) while choosing from a very limited selection of people who look like, but aren't at all what you actually want (your environment).
I honestly suggest trying out a long distance relationship. That way they can't have sex with you and thus are forced to connect emotionally with you.
Men who only care about the former won't last.

>>712580021
>>712580163
I always wonder who takes this bait. Are you turd world, 21, or a bot?
Imagine being so programmed by the word tranny, absolute NPC pottery, kek.

>>712566936
Holy passive agressive
kys

>female loneliness and depression

>>712566936
>why do men think they're entitled to sex
The social contract degrees that I am.
I am entitled to: a wife, a livelihood and property large enough to raise children in.

>>712566936
Women aren't worth tolerating for any other purpose. If I wanted to hang around and do nothing and be friends with someone, I'd find a man, not some parasitic hole

>>712563245
>pic
this is perfect because it captures what all women instinctively believe deep down.
never cry in front of a woman for any reason. no matter what they tell you.

>>712580253
All foids are retarded there's nothing to be done about it, you were born wrong, breeding tube

>>712580021
>she wants to hug me and hold me when she sleeps

/v/ niggas will spend hours posting about how they hate women and then wonder why they're so lonely

>>712580021
>ps im a tranny so theres no cunt to itch
Oh sorry I thought I was talking to an actual female.
Do you realize that males entertain the idea of long-term relationship because they want to have a family? You can't have a family without female reproductive organs.
You are interacting with homosexuals, of course they're just looking to pleasure themselves, that's how homosexuals think, their entire identity revolves around it.
The problem is that the entire discussion is pointless because of that fact, and it's me who looks like a retard now.

>>712555747
Studies show that men are usually more romantic than their female counterparts.

You are wrong by every single factoid metric, tard.

The best men are aromantic arosexual, aka me.

>>712580230
firstly, no. there's a finite distance and it's 1. you could argue about everything inbetween, but there's a points that ends at and 1, so it's not infinite. secondly, elaborate

>>712580195
>lust vs love
I know the difference very well, that's what I was highlighting. You're not going to get love from a sugar daddy golddigger arrangement either, but you framed it the only alternative for guys who couldn't get love. I offered other alternatives for more honest companionship without the isolating illusion and disconnect between lust and love. A fuckbuddy who isn't looking for anything serious but likes you to fuck her twice a week and watch TV afterward or whatnot, may not be the devoted relationship you wanted, but you both chose to keep fucking the other one and enjoy their company so its better than someone wanting the homemaker welcoming them home and having to deal with a woman who pretends that shit for a 5 minutes until you agree to buy her another dress or something
>The majority hurr
This is your bias anon, its not nearly that few. Hell, look at all the women and men who are in relationships or getting married, when neither partner are some walking stereotype of chad or stacy. There are shitty people, but that's no more true than someone saying that actually all the lonely men are just gross incels who want a temporary hole or whatever and no men want a real relationship - that's not true either.

>>712580698
>IF YOU DONT HAVE FOIDS IN YOUR LIFE SUCKING YOUR WILL TO LIVE YOURE LONELY
Foid cope

>>712580021
>ps im a tranny
Ah, which means that your partners are all mentally ill perverts.
That explains your problem.

>>712580783
i meant to type ends at and includes 1 but thought it sounded retarded, oops

>>712580794
>I know the difference very well
You do not, as you stated that you think that having sex with a prostitute is enough to sate the desire for love.
I'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post.

>>712580804
Dilate

>>712555747
LOL its an actual femcel speaking rubbish

All of this will be irrelevant. We (Men) will replace Women with servient robots that will actually listen to us, and take care of our needs. Its only a matter of time.

>>712580698
I don't hate women, I just think they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>712580410
>I honestly suggest trying out a long distance relationship
its all i look for realistically anon the main platform i use to look for guys is 4chan and the problems i describe i face with guys from here, i dont use social media for dating it's way too intimidating
>>712580414
im first world and 27 and im not a bot just a stupid 4chan tranny
>>712580729
>>712580819
there are normal guys open to dating trans women, especially on here, there are other options for starting a family other than bringing a completely new life into this world which is amoral especially while theres a lot of children up for adoption who deserve the love just as much. you act like im some weird man in a dress yet everyone itt assumes im just some cis girl too stingy to be bred and i get called a stupid female for voicing my honest opinions i dont understand it

>>712563245
How can you NOT hate women? What the fuck

>>712581173
it's made up fiction, sold for karma

>>712565138
God I wish I had an ugly gf who loved me.

>>712580698
It's a known fact that the males who hate and despise females the most are the ones who are most successful with them to the point of treating fucking them like sport.
It seems that the only people who don't hate females nowadays are a subset of clueless retards who never really interacted with them but consumed a lot of romance animes and other fantasy fiction and expect real life to happen in the same way. And in case they finally get familiarized with some, this attitude can only last for a period of physiological infatuation, but is bound to brutally collide with reality at some point.

>>712563245
Absolute disgust.

>>712580903
You first, foid

>>712581046
>there are normal guys open to dating trans women
Ahahahahaha
Please don't delude yourself like this.
You're only encountering people who want you for your body because your only choice for companionship are sexual deviants.
Either deal with it or prepare to suffer loneliness for the rest of your life.
I suggest instead to try and have your head fixed and accept yourself as the gay man you are.

nigger

>>712581243
I'm literally at the point where I'm considering dropping my only standard (not being obese).

>>712581046
>the main platform i use to look for guys is 4chan and the problems i describe i face with guys from here,
There's your problem. The guys here are bitter and jaded. All the sensible people I know have stopped coming here for a good reason. I'm incapable of leaving because I've been here for past 15 years and will remain until either 4chan or I die.

>trannymai avatarfag
rule 15

>>712553691 (OP)
>female loneliness and depression
????

>>712565138
Its impossible to be ugly as a woman unless you have some sort of nasty medical condition. As a man who has looked up every single fetish under the sun, there is always a good chunk of men that will like a weird trait here and there.Hell, even fat girls are fetishised, so this argument doesnt make a drop of sense.

>>712581046
>there are normal guys open to dating trans women, especially on here
Assuming they aren't actual homosexuals, they have a fetish given to them by porn and seek to pleasure themselves. Most of them are going to deeply regret trying that in real life btw.

>there are other options for starting a family other than bringing a completely new life into this world
A healthy male with a sane and sober perception of reality would be interested in having only his own bi0logical children.
A deviation from that is either a physical illness (sterile), or mental one.

>especially while theres a lot of children up for adoption who deserve the love just as much
Children of criminals and drug addicts inheriting their general personal tendencies. I've seen enough stories about some bleeding heart tards adopting those and coming to regret it deeply.

>>712580901
No, that's your stupidity bleeding out. You said
>Correct, but the alternative is crushing loneliness for the rest of your life.
>Most would choose a fake kind of companionship over that.
My reply was a fake sort of companionship that was more potentially rewarding, less deluded, and otherwise healthier than seeking a gold digger which you suggested as the primary alternative to getting the 'real relationship' they can't seem to get. A fuckbuddy or prostitute can provide companionship or simulate some aspects of a relationship, without something that pretends to be a 'normal' relationship but is a transactional one. Why you're tying yourselves in knots to suggest the contrary.

>>712575790
> im very anxious too anon but im a tranny so my market isnt very large to begin with
>>>(You)

>>712565138
ugly face is fine, but ill never date a fat chick. literally the only job a woman has in life is to not be fat.

>>712581676
tl;dr

>>712581607
i've talked to some nice guys but they've all ended up being american and not wanted to continue things because of the distance but mostly you're right
the issue is that i'm so steeped in especially /lgbt/ board culture that I think it would be hard to date someone who didnt understand at least some part of it

>>712579097
>well i want a BOYFRIEND first and in my world that is emotional intimacy and companionship
then be my partner

>>712581913
Have you considered getting help for your mental illness?
Transgenderism isn't real. Gender dysphoria is.
And pretending to be the other gender is not going to cure it.

Reminder a woman killed herself shortly after experiencing what is like to be a man for a year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Made_Man_(book)

>>712581451
If I could make Mahiro real I would cause a violent excruciating death for every 3D female worldwide in exchange

>>712582208
rest in piss, loser foid

>>712558869
>women taking the initiative
lol, lmao even

Total Mahiro rape

>>712581913
>the issue is that i'm so steeped in especially /lgbt/ board culture that I think it would be hard to date someone who didnt understand at least some part of it
That's fair. Using dumb 4chan memes is a fun way to bond with someone until you get close enough to have your own inside jokes. Even though my friends have stopped visiting here, I met and befriended them thanks to 4chan. I don't think I'd be able to date a normal woman either since I only get along with the weird autistic ones.

>>712581985
did you miss the part where i said i was a tranny anon

>>712582636
kill, marry, fuck

based cunnyposter

>>712582976
How can a pedophile be based?

>He hasn’t taken the Philippines pill
It’s east pussy and they’re forced to depend on you.

>>712583003
>get a young gf
> Teach her how to cook , clean and your own personal beliefs
Idk anon sounds pretty based

Why not male loneliness?
Women wouldn't last a week if they had to experience true loneliness like men do

>>712583213
There's a big difference between grooming girls to be proper women and lusting after children.

Is being lonely preferable to having your life destroyed by a bpdemon?

>>712558212
Girls used to dare eachother to go touch me, I was so far off the radar to women I was just a sideshow for them to make fun of or play jokes on each other with. Not sure what I did to deserve it

>>712583320
Depends. Are you currently in a relationship with one? Then yes. If not, then no.

>>712582536
yeah exactly, and i dont think normal guys would react well to the kind of self deprecating jokes i make or even just the genuine self loathing i feel

>>712582792
yea tbdesu
if ftm I’d still want to though

>>712583656
>the genuine self loathing i feel
No one does. It's just annoying having to deal with.
Fix that shit, man.

Loser and Loser GF having anon here. AMA

>>712583320
Imma be real after 30+ of loneliness i CRAVE a mentally ill BPD girl. I don't care if it destroys me

>>712583778
sorry anon no such luck
>>712583779
fixing it isnt that easy anon and i dont want someone to encourage it just understand where im coming from

>>712558212
Nope eat a dick and choke on it, I was the joke to ask out on april fools

>>712583913
You're literally incapable of entering a healthy relationship without fixing it first.
>but how?
Stop being part of the wokecult, for one. You're not "valid", you need help.

>>712582103
>Gender dysphoria is.
It's not real either, troon faggot.

>>712584070
Fuck off, shartynigger.

>>712583320
I will probably end up killing myself out of loneliness once I can no longer gaslight myself into believing I can be happy alone. With a mentally ill girl there's at least a chance that things might end up ok. Neither option is good but a desperate gamble beats certain failure.

>>712578315
what the fuck kind of men are you even talking to? Frat niggas?

>>712553691 (OP)
That one egirl game for BPD women

Not every hero wears a cape

>>712583807
how did you do it