Thread 712590574

Predict the downgrade.
Will it be as bad as Maria?

>>712590574 (OP)
I just hope they got a good voice actor for her. Her voice in SH1 was so soothing and it made watching her melt down and crumble very sad.

https://youtu.be/2Sp2Fr5KKXw?t=22

>>712590574 (OP)
Jakoś to będzie

Eileen shaving

>>712590825
or - like they shouldve done with 2 Demake - use the original audio.

>>712592395
No, SH1 and SH2 don't need straight remakes, they are perfectly fine as they are. RE2 style of remake where it is a new attempt at the same concept, but without reinventing or subverting anything like SH Shattered Memories did, is ideal.

If they just did a straight remake of SH1 with better graphics (ironically will be worse for SH1's presentation considering how important the graininess and muddy look is to the 'nightmare' feel) and over the shoulder camera, then why even play it? At least with the Bloober and Capcom style of remake you are actually getting a fairly different experience than the original game.

>>712591135
Eileen remaking her armpits

>>712592661
>No, SH1 and SH2 don't need straight remakes, they are perfectly fine as they are.
THIS. Silent Hill isn't supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be bad.

>>712593192
Hire fans

>>712590574 (OP)
We couldn't save her bros...

>>712590574 (OP)
Lisa was never the main girl of SH1, I'm fearful for Cybil

>>712592395
Nobody wants that except huge retards like yourself.

>>712593461
>Fans of the original 4 games are huge retards
based Bloober dev

>>712593571
Blooper are bigger fans than the /v/irgins who only experienced the series through eceleb worship.

>>712592661
>If they just did a straight remake of SH1 with better graphics (ironically will be worse for SH1's presentation considering how important the graininess and muddy look is to the 'nightmare' feel) and over the shoulder camera, then why even play it?
Do you guys not remember that the original SH wasn't entirely fixed camera angle?

>>712593703
>Blooper are bigger fans
>make unnecessary changes to a perfect game
holy BASED. TREU FANS!!

>perfect game
SH2 is inferior to 1.

>>712593848
TS wanted to change the game, but Blooper told them no.

>>712593801
but it wasn't over the shoulder view, either. It was a flyover camera view above/directly behind Harry in the sections where you could control the camera. It even rotated around him with certain movements. Much different than over the shoulder style that SH2R uses

There's only one time where over the shoulder is used in SH1 and it's the camera view where you are walking up to the elevator in Nowhere. Also this can be unlocked as "Self-view" in the extras menu to use for the whole game (I know you already know this but yeah)

>>712590574 (OP)
What are the odds Bloober learns from their fuck ups for this one? Seriously.

>>712593192
>Dr. Kauffman, its ma'am!

>>712590574 (OP)
Lisa....you poor thing...

>>712594187
>It was a flyover camera view above/directly behind Harry in the sections where you could control the camera. It even rotated around him with certain movements. Much different than over the shoulder style that SH2R uses
Oh I know, but a lot of people think the series is like classic RE where the camera is fixed. But anyway, I'm honestly fine with the series moving from fixed angle. It worked decently in SH1 where the game gave you ample ammo and health, but I feel like it really showed it's age in SH3 where there is a bigger emphasis on combat. I remember how awkward it was fighting the slurpers in the hospital. SH2 is different because the game can basically be played without ever fighting an enemy because of how easy it is to run around them.

https://youtu.be/qOJkDvegGbY

I actually like Origins somewhat especially knowing it had fuck all Dev time, was supposed to be a Re4 action clone and was remade very late in development.

The "YOU'RE A SERIAL KILLER" twist/Pyramid Head knock off was a bit lame though and the ending felt like something out of doom instead of Silent Hill

>>712594751
I love SH3 but have to admit that trying to dodge enemies and squeeze through gaps in the hordes of closers to run past them is a lot more fun than actually fighting them lol. But the same can be said for juking zombies in classic Resident Evil. It feels so fucking good when you dodge a dog lunging at you in SH3.

>>712594214
Zero because zoomers sucked their dick on the remake

>there was a toilet here
>it's gone now

>>712590574 (OP)
inb4 the race swaps and uglification.

The only thing I look forward to is seeing what the fuck they do with the UFO ending. And if they reference Shattered Memories in any way.

the only poor treatment of the characters in sh2 remake was Maria's new outfit and the poor job her voice actress did compared to the original.

everything else was fine, mostly a net improvement, sh2 remake haters are schizos who didnt even play it

>>712594214
>first SH in nearly twenty years to treat the series with respect and dignity
The first thing they should do is not listen to a shithole like /v/ and the detractors who cried woke despite the remake being even more horny and gross than the original.

>>712593801
>Expecting Big Silent Hill Fans™ to actually play the games

>>712595470
Wrong retard
Maria and James are characterized completely wrong compared to the original especially with James's reactions to Maria touching/flirting with him

I don't know about the rest because I refused to play it after seeing how badly they butchered the scenes between the two

>>712593256
Unironically yes. The combat is not supposed to be fun because that would take any sense of dread or tension out of the encounters. Having to fight with the controls, angles, and animations is akin to the physical panic and awkwardness of a real person in a real altercation or animal attack.

The appeal of these games is not the mechanics, it is the immersion, and smooth responsive COOL combat would suck all the immersion out of being a regular dude caught in a terrifying evil supernatural situation beyond his control or understanding.

I am looking forward to Dad ludo. It will be interesting to see how they portray Harry because even though I think he is a good character, he is definitely a "PS1 character" to his core

>Ito gets assblasted at people saying Pryamid head rape was in the game when in his opinion it's not so he just removed as much of it as possible to get it firmly out of grey territory
>In doing so he makes the scenes more flat. boring and uninspired

Guess it's not all on Bloober being fucking retards for once

>>712595728
>Heatherfag is retarded
Sigh...

>>712595820
i like harry more than heather
explain how i am retarded

>>712595727
>The appeal of these games is not the mechanics, it is the immersion, and smooth responsive COOL combat would suck all the immersion out of being a regular dude caught in a terrifying evil supernatural situation beyond his control or understanding.
Except the remake did that better than the original ten fold. In the original SH2, there was never any level of threat, outside of bosses, because the enemies were slow, weak to melee and easy to maneuver. Then there was James himself: the dude has the marksmanship of a Navy Seal being able to tag anyone and anything. It's not the same in the original where James's has manually aim, slowly fire and slowly reload. And then it gets worse with every new weapon. SH2R did a better job of showing James as someone who is barely getting bye.

>>712593386
Daily reminder that Kaufmann used to cum inside Lisa several times a day

https://youtu.be/7f4Nt2t1RRw?t=978

Ue5 will ruin it, why can't they faithfully reacreate sh1 in sh3 engine?

>>712595727
lol Harry becomes the Terminator the instant you get the Big Fuckin Hammer and it suddenly becomes a horror game for the monsters. It's fun as FUCK to brutalize w*men with that thing

>>712596117
True. But not because Origins confirmed it (its not canon)

>>712596117
He also came inside Alessa many many times.

I hope it's good but the odds are stacked against Blooper.

1. Silent Hill lore is still argued over to this day without firm consensus about a lot of it. The public's understanding of the story has been altered pretty permanently by what Origins and the movie depicted so we have to hope they only look at the source material and keep things that are ambiguous just as ambiguous.

2. Obviously the rough graphics of the original has benefited the atmosphere of the game as it has aged, to the point that new games are now trying to replicate the sharp, dirty PS1 art style.
They're obviously not going to make it look like a PS1 game, so how are they going to try and keep that atmosphere and look? Or will they just not even try to recapture it, and instead base the visuals very closely off what was done for SH2 remake.

What you should actually fear is them bringing retarded Origins plot points like >>712596117 into 1. Even worse if they pull anything from Homecoming. 2 avoided this possible issue by having as little to do with the Order and the town's origins as possible. And even then they still canonized the retarded theory of James being a looper. Nothing's off the table for 1.

>>712595808
It's definitely on the fans for being massive retards. The purpose of Pyramid Head is telling James to get his shit together and face the reality of his actions. The reason it kills Maria is because she is the corrupted manifestation of James' Mary. There is no reason for it to be a rapist.

>>712596430
>And even then they still canonized the retarded theory of James being a looper.
When they brought it up to one of the devs behind it, he didn't even confirm it.

>>712596117
based kaufmann

>>712596308
Delete this. I mean it. Alessa is a virgin tradwife and I won't allow another man to dishonor her like this.

>>712596430
I don't think 1 draws nearly as many mentally ill schizos with retarded theories as 2 does. About the only thing that isn't 100% clear and is open to interpretation is exactly what Lisa's deal is.

>>712596430
Kaufmann cumming inside Lisa was canon long before Origins ever came to fruition, no pun intended.

>>712590574 (OP)
I really hope they don’t fuck up the soundtrack

I wonder how much they'll expand on the Silent Hill mall. There's many locations in Silent Hill that are very short, like the police station.

>>712596991
I totally forgot about the mall, that's a very good prediction

>>712596109
The new combat really changes the tone and atmosphere. The combat in the original fucking sucks but it gives the game an eerie and depressing tone. SH2R overstays its welcome, it turns the game into a shitty action game where you tactically clear every room and corner. Isn't it funny when the western SH games like Homecoming did exactly the same thing and got flak for it but now it's suddenly the best thing ever and the original is irredemable unplayable garbage?

>>712596585
Lenart (the director) confirmed that the solution to the riddle of all the strange photographs scattered through the remake is indeed the message "YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR TWO DECADES"
https://x.com/Mateusz_Lenart_/status/1853189523745730675
There's also a ton of little details in the game corroborating this.
It's not quite looper James as there is still some room to discuss what it actually means but it at the very least confirms James going in circles for a while.

>>712590574 (OP)
They are going to add a super secret ending where you save Lisa and live happily ever after, and then I will forever kneel to Bloober.

>>712595035
Its okay for a psp game. Its genuinely the best western Silent Hill anyway.

>>712596949
Playing through Alchemilla Hospital in modern graphics is going to be FUCKED if they keep this song in https://youtu.be/MkipzzWyLF4

harry gets given 'an actual character' and is now le troubled man with sins to bear like james

>>712596825
>Well Kaufmann definitely sealed her deal hehehe.

>>712597246
I just hope they keep these little fellas in.

>>712597081
>The combat in the original fucking sucks but it gives the game an eerie and depressing tone.
>>712593256
This, I was shocked by how utterly depressing and eerie the combat's tone was in the original.

>>712596991
The town was supposed to be bigger, but they just flat ran out of time. That's why the first area is so much bigger and more detailed with little nooks and crannies than the other two.

>>712597081
>unny when the western SH games like Homecoming did exactly the same thing and got flak for it but now it's suddenly the best thing ever and the original is irredemable unplayable garbage?
I never played Homecoming so this meme that I keep hearing about doesn't make much sense to me.

The only change I'll accept is them giving Harry this outfit in the bad ending.

>>712597246
>if you aren't a secret twist bad guy you don't have a character

Hope there's no map for Nowhere. Will modern gamers be able to handle it?

>>712597171
I think it would be really funny if they add an ending where Cybil and Lisa pull their pants down and start bouncing up and down on my cock

>>712597536
haha lol yeah that'd be really funny imagine

>>712597171
A Bad End where Harry gets SLUGGED.COM like all the hospital staff and Cybil would be kinda based.

Anyone else get into Psychic TV after playing Silent Hill?

>>712597457
Ran out of time or ran out of megabytes? I know a bunch of monsters were cut.

>>712597782
Do you also like Coil and current 93?

They are going to make rule34 of Lisa getting vored by the lizard boss from the school

>>712597813
>rape apes in the remake

>>712597484
Homecoming was trashed by survival horror fans for being action shit. Believe it or not the genre wasn't always an over the shoulder brawler with dodges and parries.

>>712597970
can't blame them honestly, harry had cake

Its going to be interesting to see what they do with the combat in 1 since most of the enemies are either shorter than you or flying.

>>712597354
You can make a webm of RE3 where you run around Nemesis and make the combat look terrible too and that game has tight as fuck gameplay.

>>712597942
I like Coil's Love's Secret Domain and Horse Rotovator, but those are probably their most accessible albums. Haven't given Current 93 a try.

>>712598367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7_akk8HFM8

>>712597994
>Homecoming was trashed by survival horror fans for being action shit.
That's pretty funny considering Silent Hill 1's Henry is an unstoppable juggernaut capable of firing a sawed off shotgun like a pistol and SH3 might as well be the most action packed of the classic era with the amount of weapons you get and the enemies the game throws at you.

SH2H is probably the only game so far that actually takes the premise of a no-guns everyday man having to arm himself to heart.

SH2 remake worth it? I see it is on sale and I've had it on my wishlist for a while.

>>712598814
Yeah, it's pretty good.

>>712598814
It's worth it, the monsters aren't pushovers in the remake.

Man I love Silent Hill music.
https://youtu.be/xKiys1Tf26E?t=1334

>game is set in 1986
>handgun is from 1993
I hope they fix this in the remake.

>>712598814
it's worse in some aspects but it's still really good. the amount of extra details and shit they put into the game for no reason really made me feel they actually cared about this stuff. things like james getting bags unders his eyes and hotel slowly getting more and more damaged as you go through it are really the kind of unnecessary effort that you don't see often in games these days. at least the things I dislike don't feel like they are bad because they didn't try hard enough

>>712590574 (OP)
who this Becky looking character?

>>712598814
Only play it if you've played the original first

>>712599059
Great artists steal, chud.

>everyone gives the new Mary shit
>never bring how she did a great job for the letter to Laura

>>712590574 (OP)
I might be wrong but i think they might respect her this time. Woke era is coming to an end, i don't think many games will remain with those ugly / uncanny characters for too long.

Games that will remain like that on purpose, won't manage to sell games.

>>712590574 (OP)
Will the remake feature Lisa's iconic casual outfit?

>>712599670
I never felt they downgraded maria like that on purpose. She still makes tons of innuendos and just acts like a hoe. It's just that her head was too big lol.

>>712599607
You're right, I totally forgot about that. That was really good. Shame about the endings (not just her voice acting, but the script and presentation/direction were way worse than the original for Leave and In Water)

>>712599894
It's noticeably just a lack of proper talent and direction. I hope they learned from the experience at least and can do a better job with 1.

>"Shattered Memories is the remake" fags finally BTFO
nice

>>712595172
>they redo this scene but with the toilet broken or missing, only a hole in the ground

>>712596481
>pic
Yeah, the camera angles made the original so much more interesting. Top image: James is literally staring into the void, and the camera makes its unimaginable depth the focus. Bottom looks like James is a dumbass who's about to fall into concrete pit--it completely understates the metaphor of his going deeper into his psyche.

>>712600195
remake haters dont even know how to operate the "choose file" button, it's no wonder they prefer to play walking sims than actual challenging games

>>712600195
Oops, meant for >>712597081

I'm curious how far they are going to go with the remakes. If SH1 does well, which I don't think is going to be an issue, then it's SH3 Remake next. The question is will they stop there or will they go and remake SH4. I don't really know what they will do after that.

>>712600342
SH3 Remake is already in production. "Project G" is Project Gillespie, codename for SH1R. Project H is Project Heather, codename for SH2R.

>>712595172
Do you think Team Silent left out the toilet as a joke? What are your theories?

>>712600517
oops I meant Project H is the codename for SH3R, obviously

>>712600342
That's kinda the issue with every developer lately. Remakes are all the rage, and it seems as if they can produce nothing new that even comes close to their old output.

Konami is remaking MGS3 1:1... but does anyone have any hope of them actually pulling off a MGS6? Do THEY even think they can?

FF7R isn't doing nearly as well as anyone expected, but FF16 demonstrates SE sliding backwards into just copying outdated trends instead of making new classics like they used to churn out.

It seems like the creative spirit is completely gone from the AAA industry and they are simply coasting on their old catalogs while hoping for a genius to fall into their laps before they run out of material to rehash.

>>712600342
Probably no more remakes after 4, if they ever go that far. Konami would have to reach out and talk with the studios that made the other ones, right? That's too much work for Konami. I do wish Origins, Shattered Memories and Downpour got PC ports though. Still mad they shelved that Downpour port.

>>712600517
>sh2 remake is good
>sh1, sh3 and mgs3 remakes will probably be good
good timeline

>>712600517
Do people give enough of a shit for a Silent Hill 4 remake?

>>712600342
>>712600641
lol you guys forgot about silent hill f and myriad of other SH games or something? they will maybe remake sh4 but that's about it

>>712599409
the nurse from Exorcist

>>712600706
sh4 is a good concept shit execution type of game. desu it's a really good candidate for a remake

>>712600772
>lol you guys forgot about silent hill f and myriad of other SH games or something

Gonna be a FF16 situation. Mid as fuck and kill any momentum the series gained.

>>712597171
how can you save a ghost?

>>712600872
Become her ghost husbando.

>>712600872
Town magic, I ain't gotta explain shit. Have Alessa do it as thanks.

>>712600787
OH N-

>>712598814
see >>712599525

>Random Polak slavfags are now literally copying Team-Silent's 25 years old home work to make them, Jewnami, and the Sweet Baby Inc some easy zoomer bucks
Fuck this gay Earth

I wonder if Kaufmann murdered Lisa or if she ODed on the drugs he was feeding her

>>712598814
>SH2 remake worth it?
Fuck. No.
It's absolutely disgusting UE5 DEI-make.
Plays like Homocoming x RE4R.

If you "must" play that trash, PIRATE it.
Do not give Jewnami and the other fags a penny for this garbage.

the retard is here

>>712601040
I cant wait until they get to botching heather its gonna be hilarious

>>712601050
The former.

he's in every SH thread, just filter his images

>>712601162
>tfw I instantly understand who you're talking about even though you didn't say who it is

>>712601116
The opinion of culture warriors that don't play vidya is worth less than nothing.

>>712601215
>Just ignore your eyes bro
>pretend things are not true

>>712600787
Also Lisa from Dead & Buried

>>712601116
>tech has advanced enough that they can make the entire game look as good as SH2 prerendered cutscenes
>"nah, lets design our own characters and make them ugly"-Bloober

>>712600706
I think SH4 is a game that would benefit greatly from a remake that wasn't 1/1 with the original game.

>>712601359
Correct. The nu-SH2 fags literally have never played a Silent Hill game before. And never will.

>>712601753
it does not take a Sherlock to figure out why...

>>712601050
>>712601171
Im pretty sure it was Valtiel that killed her

>712601972
>n-no u!!!
Doesn't even merit a (You).

>>712602135
he's right though. why else would they defend an obviously downgraded remake over the acclaimed originals?

>>712590574 (OP)
Really want to rub those thighs so badly

>>712602035
btw, the source for this is the comic Silent Hill: Cage of Cradle.
>n-not canon!
eh... I tend to agree (if its not in the game it aint canon). But it WAS illustrated by Masahiro Ito and written by Hiroyuki Owaku so...

>>712602442
I believe u anon kun ur so smart uuaaah [embarrassed]

>>712600706
Yeah. You know how people say remake the games that need it? This is one of those games

>>712602135
>it's still seething

>>712603493
Why would you download a miner when its on gog

>/pol/tard filename
Yet another contributor to the enshittening of /v/ over the last decade.
>>712603620
He just wanted le epic screencap. He's posted the same exact image 7 times. He gives more thought to the game than I do, and I actually played the thing.

>>712603753
i thought the archive has search disabled

>>712596117
disgusting

>>712603972
different site or?

>>712603620
>Why would you download a miner
Imagine using the 30 years old "YOU GET A VIRUS BY WAREZZING A GAEM!!" meme in 2025.

Also the game only got on GOG recently. This was day 1.

>>712603753
The vatnigs are still seething that I didn't waste a dime on the demake.

>>712604072
b4k

>>712600574
Kauffman is full of shit, he harbors his shit, and does not need a toilet

>>712604119
died a while ago didnt it. i guess it moved different domain?

>>712604229
Yeah, it's arch.b4k.dev now.

>>712604308
ah thanks

>>712602027
>sweet baby inc
how deluded are you?

The second the Silent Hill remake is released, nobody will want to play the original. I'll miss watching women on Twitch trying to play the original Silent Hill.

>>712600653
>>712595035
>>712596430
Am I the only one who wants a remake of SH Origins? But I want it to be done by an asian team only. Ideally former members of Team Silent.

I want to see the "Japanese made" version of SH Origins.

>>712605656
No thanks.
Also, I don't think the magic ingredient of Team Silent was their nationality, it was their love of western horror.

>>712605656
I want Konami to release the PC version of Downpour that they made but never let go

Get ready to be kissed by a fully 4K model of an old hag at the end of the remake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D55dq_Ffhx8

>>712608891
Hope Bloober keeps the blooper reel.

>>712606528
>Ackchyually, I don't think the magic ingredient of Team Silent was their nationality, it was their love of western horror.
Uh, what western studio has ever surpassed a Japanese made horror game? Huh?

Yeah. That's what I thought.

>>712610729
No Japanese studio has ever surpassed Team Silent.

>>712590574 (OP)
I'm still hyped. SH1 was the best SH and best survival horror ever.

>>712611394
I agree, it's also my favorite game ever in general. The design and pacing are so tight. There is not one part of the game that makes me bored or annoyed. Maybe trying to figure out where to go in the Otherworld streets after you leave the mall the very first time I played, but even then it was mysterious and stressful in exciting ways

>>712611148
You... are not wrong.