Drake Sword is a genuinely really good early game weapon if you're smart enough to drop it once you get access to elemental weapons (which is really early on) and don't upgrade it. The special R2 is actually kinda useful too.
Carried me through the first half of my first play through. Found it without a guide too. Now DaS is so easy for me I completely forgot it even existed until this thread reminded.
Post weapons LITERALLY only you used
>spending 50 durability to AoE invaders
nothin' perssonel kid
Unironically a good weapon ; a straight upgrade to basically just about everything you could have at this point. It becomes bad really fast, but it acts as a nice reward and crutch to help new players to get a feel for the game.
>>712655304Light Crossbow. It's outclassed by the Heavy Crossbow, and all crossbows are outclassed by bows. Bows in general are just worse than using melee weapons or magic, so I'm pretty sure no one ever used the Light Crossbow.
Except me. I just think crossbows are cool.
>>712655304I was the faggot trying to use bows while invading/getting invaded.
You can guess how well it worked.
>>712655608I was hoping you were going to pick the real contararian's choice of ranged weapon.
>>712654203 (OP)No one found this without a guide.
>>712655871not gonna lie I don't even remember where that piece of trash is, I just remember trying it and getting shit on because it was too slow.
>>712655304>Dank Silver Tracer>Parrying Dagger>Chester's Set>Chameleon>Red Eye Orb>Sen's FortressYep, it's backstabbin' time
Silver Knight Straight Sword sexo
>>712654203 (OP)Why didn't they ever attempt to another weapon that scaled like shit later on?
>>712657976Isn't that basically every weapon that has shit stat scaling?
Butcher knife my beloved...
>>712658073No, low scaling weapons tend to just have outright high power and high requirements and usually beg for shit like being buffed.
Drake Sword is uniquely designed to be very strong early game but dogshit by the end. They've never done anything like it again.
Though perhaps this because they acknowledged that players like their little meta level spots and also want all builds to have some viability, hence why you don't see many weapons like Artorias Greatsword anymore.
>morning star, winged spear and zweihander just there for the taking next to the shrine
they never did that again
>>712658442you can get morningstar in majula bro
>>712654203 (OP)that isnt the claymore
>>712654203 (OP)i played dark souls 1 for the first time a year ago and i dropped balder side sword in two kills and it carried me upto and including gwyn
>>712655304I like how it sets itself on fire every swing. Also features backflips to accidentally kill yourself with
>>712655304i tried to use this weapon at the end of my DS1 playthrough, it felt like the AoE dealt piss poor damage for PvE bosses. is there something im missing or is it really just a multiplayer/normal enemy tool?
its crazy that none of the weapons since DaS1 try to reach the same highs as the bladur swag sword. Nothing comes close except some of the trick weapons in BB
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>>712655304Jagged ghost blade my beloved
>>712659281Drakeblood greatsword in ds3 hits that level of swag, only i used it tho
I like longsword but claymore is just so much fun
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>>712655304this thing, poisemaxxed, and using sunlight blade generated a lot of hatemail.
>>712655304Eagle Shield
Not really a weapon but I feel like people shit on it because it's not 100% physical. But that stability/weight ratio is unbeatable.
>>712659040It has no scaling, so it's great for low str/dex builds. I think it's the only dragon weapon that can be buffed, too.
can you guys pick what i should use in my next playthrough
>lifehunt scythe + bloodshield
>ricards' rapier + faith flat damage buff
>bow/crossbow/avelyn
>>712654453>he found out to shoot the drakes a hundred time in a very specific place so it doesnt fly awaywho you trying to fool?
>>712660202Crossbows are fucking miserable to use, don't do it.
Some of the most fun I have whenever I go for a slower playthrough is the period of time when unupgraded/+3 max weapons are still super useful, so I mess around with pretty much everything I get.
Wish they'd try a game without any kind of weapon scaling so I can do that for the whole game.
>>712660282Needing to upgrade weapons is the single worst part of the souls series
>>712660231Is it really so hard to believe I thought I discovered a cheap way to kill the dragon with a bow and arrow only to discovered it just gets you a sword? I'm sure a lot of people discovered it.
>>712660543nah, that thing was everywhere because of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrzrP4OnolE
>>712660826It's the only way they can stop you from becoming OP. You can grind for souls. Upgrading forces you to actual progress.
>>712655304Battle Axe my beloved
A Lightning Battle Axe was really close to perma stunlock invaders. It brought me endless joy watching most of them underestimating it and get scared the living shit out of them if it didn't outright kill them.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*WOOSH*
HAHAHAHAHA
*WOOSH*
Flipping motherfuckers never expect to be knocked on their ass!
DRYLEAF ART FAGS REPRESENT!!!!
>>712660918that's fucked up
>>712660918huh, basically the Chain Saw beam in ER is like a modern version of this.
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ONLY i used this
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>>712664296I wish power stancing existed in 1.
>>712660231>wow this boss sucks ass>oh cool i can cheese it from this spot and kill it early lol dumb devs>get swordIs that really so hard to believe
>>712654203 (OP)Rolling for BKS is far superior, once you get it you don't need anything else.
>>712664960Im about to try powerstancing for the first time in 2, do you guys have any suggestions for cool weapons to powerstance?
Im going for a dragon transformation guy with 0 adp, if that makes any difference
>>712665241for me it was
>wow this boss sucks ass>*keep banging my head against the wall*>*cut his tail with a claymore*>*dont use the drake sword because i thought it looked ugly*
>>712666696Pursuer UGS
Non-memewise though, Warped Sword is an early get, has a great moveset and powerstances with a lot of stuff.
>0 ADPlmao
>>712667138>This weapon's unique power stance moveset does not properly pair up with other swords, due to none of them having a second hit to apply on the spin attack on the strong attackhow much of a problem is this in practice?
>adpi started deprived and put no points in adp, honestly thus far ive had a great time rolling through or around the attacks of bosses like smelter demon
it just feels a lot more fun than dodging into attacks, and it even works in pvp as long as i land some nice hits and parries
Whenever I find the Claymore in a Souls game I'm done on the weapon front.
>>712667858Just do some science with it, I don't fuckin remember which weapons do and don't jibe well with the Warped L2. All other curved swords and katanas should be perfectly fine at least. Manslayer is a classic combo with it for blazing fast poison procs but you get that one pretty late
>ADPFair enough if it works for you, really rustles my jimmies personally when I perfectly dodge past an attack but take damage anyway because they made the Drakekeepers' weapons have hurtboxes a mile wide for no fucking reason
used it for the entirety of ds1, ds3 and ER
>>712667858>>712668663Also you could just Ascetic No-Man's Warf and get two of them, that'll certainly work.
Been playing with the Artorias swords and it's super fun. Having the extra int/fai utility is so nice too. First ds1 build I've done where I use all 3 magic types. The cursed weapons are kinda pointless for killing ghosts though since they can still stunlock you easily without transient curse.
>>712654203 (OP)I remember the first time going through dark souls without a guide and this carried me all the way to anor londo, it blew my younger mind that my attempt to chess the dragon with a bow got me this, still ended up using the claymore like everyone else though
>>712654203 (OP)The Flamberge. In every installment from Demon's Souls to Dark Souls 2. Loved the animation in 2, wish they kept it. Everyone says it was amazing in Elden Ring, but I didn't care anymore. Animations looked like ass for a supposed Dex weapon.
>>712668663>perfectly dodge past an attack but take damage anywayseems like you didnt perfectly dodge it then, anon
seriously though, the hitboxes for 2 are actually really good aside from a few instances which was surprising for me considering how everyone shits on it. for me its the problem that when you roll and the edge of their hitbox hits the edge of yours and you took full damage. like everything makes sense, but it doesnt feel right you know?
>>712670087>when you roll and the edge of their hitbox hits the edge of yours and you took full damageAlmost like this is exactly what I meant buddy
So many attacks in the game where the hurtbox intersects your hitbox for way more than 6 frames
>>712670416Mixed up hurtbox and hitbox, kill me
>>712670416...almost like I knew what you meant and I was agreeing with you
>>712655608You're supposed to use bow like parry. Only fire to interrupt attackers or rollcatch them.
Why did they make you stumble like a retard for no reason when you whiffed halberds in this game?
>>712654203 (OP)you live inside the drake sword?? ((please wait a while before making a post, even though I already fucking waited. what's up with that??))
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>>712670658>The hitboxes for 2 are actually really good aside from when they're complete trash garbage
>>712670845yes. thats what Im saying. both statements are true, dont make me post a bunch of links to hitbox videos knowing damn well you wont watch them
>>712671012Post them anyway so I can post a "didn't watch lmao" reaction
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>>712655304Warpick
its solid + you can get it early
thrust damage + leo ring
>>712660231Anyone that played demon souls would do the same
>>712654203 (OP)>makes the perfect noob trap wish they did it more
>>712671208im posting them and also a picrel to get more people to notice my post so more people can agree with me and not you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXUd_4GGsz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FuWj44oFpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNgdjyhgN6g
>>712654453>found out without a guide toowhy do people lie like this? Are you lying to yourself because you know you're shit and googled how to make the game easier?
>>712671706uuuuuuoooooooaaaaaaaahhhhh i don't know what it is about your post, but suddenly i notice your posts a lot more than before
>>712660840Yes because you definitely don't have that many arrows and would stop. Kill yourself.
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>>712666696Powerstancing is overrated and only really gets good once you can wield 2 UGS at once.
>0 ADPHave fun having literally 0 i-frames and longer animations on flask/item uses.
ADP is a shitty stat precisely because it works like a dump stat for every build in DaS2, yes, even "Sword'n'Board" builds need it because there are some attacks that you literally can't block regardless of your shield or character stats and how quickly you can block is also governed by it. You want enough ADP to reach a minimum of 92 AGL but always aim for 100 AGL regardless of build.
>>712672429Powerstancing trades viability for rule of cool, or PvP munchkinry if you have brain damage
2x longsword is objectively more cool than 2-handing a longsword, even though the latter can keep swinging twice as long before you're out of stamina
>>712655304Claymore. Baemore. My main in every game.
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>>712655304shotel + shield. how do you like that?
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>>712672703I remember these fuckin swords draining a 40END stamina bar in 3 swings or so, so not worth it
>>712658935fuck the backflips, the kick is so much better. I don't think i've used the backflip intentionally
I'm a simple man: All I need is a big fucking sword.
>>712655304I like the silver knight sword.
I like the baldur side sword.
I like the painting guardian's curved swords
I like sexo con tu mama jajajajajajajajajaja
>>712655304Serpent Sword. Took half an hour or more to farm from the serpent dudes at the entrance of Sen's Fortress.
>>712672618I haven't played DaS2 PvP since... The release of SOTFS, DaS PvP has always been a crapshoot thanks to the shitty netcode that FROM uses along with there ALWAYS being glaring balancing in every game. Soul Memory also just ruins the entire multiplayer aspect for me in DaS2 and they could have gotten rid of smurfs by simply just adding a numerical value to all gear (and its upgrades) and then adding player level ontop of it and calling it "Power Level" and then splitting invasions/PvP into brackets, something like:
>(Char lvl)+(Gear specific "worth")*(highest piece of upgraded gear in your characters inventory)="Power level"
Thank you for carrying me through the entire series.
>>712660543>mfw farming for several hours just to get it and use it earlyworth it every time
>>712673224It's called Man-Serpent Greatsword, actually.
https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Man-Serpent+greatsword
2% drop chance lmao
>>712668937I stumbled into using it for my entire first ds1 run.
I thought the mechant that had it was an enemy and I instinctively attacked him.
I then picked it up, put a few points into dex and then never found anything better for my build
After a while I felt kinda locked into using it since I didn't level Strength at all and it felt like all other good weapons I had were strength weapons.
I like it though.
>>712655304That big ass dragon greatsword that has a windscar R2
I used the dragon body stone and iron flesh to be an iron dragon. It was really dumb, but sometimes people would try to trade with me and get fucked, and sometimes they’d get cocky while shooting at me from afar and get OHKO’d by a windscar they didn’t expect.
>>712670087>considering how everyone shits on itthese are in its vast majority
>people who didnt play the game and parrot shit>people who got mad at no i-framesthe game is almost specifically made for dodging without iframes to be reliable
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This is all i need
My first run was a pyro and I used the hand axe the entire run. The moveset just felt great, every other weapon felt slower or weaker.
>>712654203 (OP)>Club>bonk everything>headed for quelaag>see BIG club>Bonk everything else bigly
It's so easyyy
Happy-go-luckyyy
>>712655304This is the weapon that I beat Dark Souls with on my first playthrough.
The Titanite Catching Pole.
>>712654203 (OP)>non-scaling damage so it's never overpowered except in the beginning>can't be buffed>expensive to upgrade>projectile is costly to the sword due to the durability it drains from itface it kids, you beat the game if you used it all the way through.
>>712675894>TitaniteYou just made me remember how good I felt when I learned how to defeat the Titanite Demon for the first time. It's a joy I can still remember to this day. I think I was on my tenth or so death against one, then it just clicked. Oh, what a good day.
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>ignores your positioning
how does one beat the hellkite drake, new game plus hes kicking my ASS with that spam fire attack..
>>712658102Not thick enough.
>>712673545Just buy one from Shiva. You did take the master key, right?
>>712658227Perfection. Something about the weight of the animations and sound just hits different in DS1. It might be busted, but it's also a ton of fun.
Beat the game with mostly the Claymore and the Man Serpent Sword.
Sword choices were pretty limited on a pure strength build.
>>712658227Based. You don't need anything else.
>>712660282Yup. That's the "That part" of ER for me; the point where I have to start committing to a few weapons and can't just dick around with whatever as they drop
>>712686076>have a massive open world with fuckloads of dungeons>only a few dungeons reward things that help every run>this makes replaying 90% of dungeons worthless in subsequent runsI really don't know what the thought process was.
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it does look extremely goofy, but i will be always a little mad the four kings sword was made to be used by players, but never implemented legitimately
>Make cleric
>Only use mace
ez
Let me guess, you need more?
>>712666696The importance of ADP is way overblown desu, it's not like you need to roll that much in 2. Positioning is key
>>712658935Both of her weapons were great. Chaos Blade was my go to in every game
>>712685170Wrong.
You could dual wield TWO zwei in DS2.
>>712654203 (OP)man I can't go back to dark soles games after elden ring, the weapon movesets are mostly so good and fluid
>>712672429>ADP is a shitty stat precisely because it works like a dump stat for every build in DaS2,so far in my 1st playthrough i put no points into it and rolling is more fun that way. i just wish consumables were faster
im just using a light shield and predominantly dodging
>>712675894I did the same
I agree that ADP/agility affecting roll i-frames is a shitty mechanic. They should have simply removed all ways to increase the ammount of i-frames on the rolls.
>>712654203 (OP)The only issue is how puny it looks, especially two handing it.
>>712655304i've only used claymore and man sword desu
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The Executioners Great sword my love
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>>712655961Do the 15 different orange messages telling you exactly what to do count as a "guide"?
>>712691376na, i like it
I think it was a good idea, and its implemented fine enough. they just needed to make the description for what it does a lot more obvious for retards to understand. the same retards who somehow join the Champions covenant
>>712654203 (OP)>start new playthrough>always end up with this, power within/fire tempest, and the edgiest heavy armor possible
>>712654203 (OP)Demon's Souls? The Zweihander.
Dark Souls 1? The Murakumo.
Dark Souls 2? Dragonslayer's Crescent Axe.
Dark Souls 3? Astora Greatsword.
Bloodborne? Threaded Cane.
Elden Ring? nothing, game sucked
Haven't played Sekiro, probably won't. Kinda tired of FromSoft games.
>>712693707>uses turbonormieshitter weapons in every entry>too dumb for eldenkino
>>712693483but then people are gonna start rolling through attacks with iframes. i dont like that. i want everyone to have no iframes
>>712693839what are yours?
>>712693947make it so instead of a roll, its just a dash like Bloodborne and doesnt offer have iframes, just moving your position.
yeah, i'd buy that
How is it still the ultimate game of all time /v/? Why can't anything surpass it?
>>712655304The weapons that had a cool magic type of attack with the R2 were objectively better than the ones that don't though. Wish more weapons had this going on.
>>712693947Iframes were always a retarded concept that only existed to mask shitty hitboxes. If you actually try to roll out of an attack in a sensical way, you get hit anyways ("""shockwaves"""). Instead you're supposed to use rolls to toggle godmode and magically phase through the enemy weapon. Doesn't even fucking matter which direction you're rolling towards so you might as well roll into the damage.
>>712673136everyone liked the balder swag sword
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You factually actually tractually mactually don't need anything more nor should you settle for anything less.
>>712695001>you get hit anyways ("""shockwaves""").not really, not necessarily at least
specially not in ds2because its actually made around that
ironically, sekiro, the game where it least matters, has some laser perfect hitboxes. but it doesnt mean much for the average attack because of how strong enemy tracking is
>>712696165I need RANGE, could care less about poke R2s
mace ds
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>>712688932I mentioned this in another thread but I find it both hilarious and depressing how the mundane easy to obtain weapons absolutely out class the lore heavy legendary boss soul weapons.
(Grave)lord Sword. I still love killing negros with it in PVP. And the Gargoyle Halberd too when I was invading at SL 1
>>712664296>who are you?>forge your weapon?
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>>712666696Main hand broken straight sword reduces stamina costs for some weapons below their initial cost. washing pole is especially good with this. Slap a status effect on it to make up for the damage.
MLGS with another magic/enchanted sword
Obligatory bone fist majestic greatsword red + blue smelter swords mention
Dual thrusting swords, bonus points if one can parry
Not powerstancing specifically but wielding two weapons with different physical damage types is very useful because of how generous 2 is with left handed movesets
Avoid dual reapers and halberds, it looks fucking stupid and has giant stamina costs. Some unique movesets like Santier and Yorgh are also gutted when powerstancing.
>>712672429Does ATN alone give spell users enough agility? I usually get 15-20 ADP out of habit but on paper it doesn't sound so bad considering most spells are ranged.
>>712701651>bonus points if one can parryim parrying people practically every time i pvp, will try dual thrusters
>>712697712>Gargoyle Halberdcriminally underrated weapon
for a normal playthrough its literally better than bkh
>>712701816Do you gesture before the riposte?
>>712692642Dark Souls 2 has a serious problem with ultra heavy weapons literally looking like turds.
First time for me?
DeS: lmao Crescent Falchion
DS1: Claymore graduating to the Artorias Cursed Greatsword and Dragonslayer Spear
DS2: Greatsword
DS3: Quality Longsword graduating to the Sunlight Straight Sword graduating to Lionheart with the Lothric Banner
BB: Ludwig's Holy Blade graduating to the Moonlight Greatsword
ER: Greataxe with Wild Strikes
I also literally always have a bow in a secondary slot.
>>712702148>sees turds everywhereSaar...
>>712654203 (OP)Retards get the Drake sword in Dark Saars
Giga chads rush the Shadow Tiger and feather out in Shadow Tower
>never appears in another game
>>712705448what the fuck is that
Man i'm being filtered in dark souls 3 by the twin princes. I have beat this game 2 twice already but this time i'm getting destroyed. I hate this fight, i hate going to this fight and every time i try i play worse and get frustated more.
>>712705596im not a fan of that fight myself. found it too spammy
dont really have advice though. sorry, fren. hope you get 'em
>>712705493velka's rapier
>>712655961If you didn't try cutting the tail off of everything after the first time you found out you could get weapons from them, you're a low iq drooling apebrained niggermonkey
>>712705786Thanks anon, i will keep trying. I hate the fucking teleport, you lose him, and then he can make several attacks, so it's just a damn lottery. And then fase 2 is the same shit but with shitmagic flying at you. Fuck this piece of shit i'm cheesing them.
>>712705916how would you know?
>>712654203 (OP)>when you realize you dont need a bow to get a drake sword
>>712708373Ive no clue why this picture was posted I selected something else
>>712708420it still works though
>>712655304Moonlight Butterfly Shield post-patch. It was fun invading with, I got the impression most people had never seen it before.
>>712655304Yes I used the Morning Star
>>712655304I used this and quickly learned that I had way too little stamina. I fought fume knight super early for no reason so I got a side arm blacksteel katana to make that easier. I ended up using that in the left hand and this in the right, two-handing one or the other for different bosses.
>>712709000power-stancing those fucks in ds2 was fun
>>712706840By cutting off the tail of the gargoyle by accident, then using the White power of prefrontal cortex to apply this strategy to other enemies
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>Slashes you across the face with the first R2, catches your roll with a poke with the next one
God damn this thing was my shit.
>>712659425The amount of banshee farming...
>>712710025>by accidentand if you didnt?
>>712710436The original argument was that no one found it without a guide
I contest that anyone who did happen to cut the gargoyle tail off, a good number of people, would make that connection as long as they weren't terminally niggerbrained
A game where everyone would find every "secret" is a soulless design philosophy
>>712671831I just shot an arrow at the drake (could only reach the tail), saw a number pop up so I farmed some souls, bought arrows and shot it for 15 minutes.
I'm sorry you're an npc with no creativity and curiosity.
>>712692060I'm sorry, but I have also used it so you have to delet your post.
>>712655583>>712654363It becomes bad really fast to the point it's not worth the time or effort. A +5 Claymore does near enough the same damage, and all the resources to make it +5 are on the way to Andre.
>Moveset is incredible
>A in Strength scaling
Yep, it's bonk time.
>>712661148I used it briefly. Percival was my main in Knights of the Round so when I got the drop I was like "cool". killed the gargoyles with it but then in sen's fortress it seemed useless.
>>712658227>he put points into dexterityLMAO what a FUCKING FAGGOT
>>712658227I had to switch to the black knight sword at the very end to beat Gwynn. It was pretty kino just raping the other bosses with it the zweihander.
i gave up my DS3 SL1 run after getting stuck at twin princes / soul of cinder / nameless king
should i hop back on and try playing again or what
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>>712655304I enjoy modest weapons. Warpick would be a good choice too.
>>712660918I've spend over 500 hours into DS1 during 2011-2014 most of it pvp and am not even familiar with that shit.
>>712697423>easy to obtain weaponsThis thing wasnt easy to get.
uh, so what was the best wepaon in ds1? Zweihander? Katana folded 9000 times? Great scythe plus parrying?
>>712697423oh yea, forgot about fully buffed mace, OP as fuck
>>712654203 (OP)This shit was never good, Im part of the use the first black knight weapon that drops for the whole game gang
Shitty drakesword users take like 2 minutes to beat Queelag while I killed her in 5-6 hits
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>>712655304No Idea how uses this is but the lifehunt scythe was a fun endgame weapon, did pretty good damage just have to watch out you dont bleed yourself
>>712654203 (OP)>Let's just shoot that random dragons tail 50 times with a crossbow and see if it happens to drop a unique weapon.Wiki game.
for me? it's pic related
just walking around and everyone dies besides me
>>712718502I just bleed myself anyway when using it
Reverting crystal halberd/lightning spear for a boss weapon is always cool
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>Weapon looks cool
>It's shit
>>712655304>obsidian GSMah nigga
For me, it's the Twin Princes GS. You never see it because it's only obtainable at the end of NG+ and deals low damage to balance out its busted beam art.
>>712655608The light, heavy, and arbalest are all extremely oppressive in 3's PvP for their ability to instantly put out an aoe hitbox at range. The trick is to un-target and manually aim your shots.