>Made Code Veronica not numbered title despite Mikami wanting it to be called RE4, resulting her becoming less popular because it's a spinoff
>decade later they star her in another spinoff, change her VA for literally no reason and make her slightly uglier in Revelations 2
>make her a complete goblina uggo and butcher her character in RE2make
Why does Capcom hate Claire so much?
they know their retarded fanbase will eat anything
>we want the movie audience
To be fair CV is a shite game
>tried really hard on Normal
>did somewhat ok with kills and saves
>still over 10hrs
That's the best I can do. It was very worthwhile to play it again with Chris.
I am installing Biohazard 2 Sourcenext Rebirth edition now. Hyped.
>>712657272because resident evil is now for its realism
>>712656784 (OP)>>decade later they star her in another spinoff, change her VA for literally no reason and make her slightly uglier in Revelations 2And Rev2 was the best RE game post 4. Better than OG 1 I'd say.
My first play through on VEasy.
>>712657564
>>712657502>25 years later still seething about exclusivei'm sorry
>>712657272Absolute cinema
>>712657502Nah it's pretty fun
>>712657646>And Rev2 was the best RE game post 4.Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>712657997>Do you have a single fact to back that up?he played with a friend so of course he got fun
i also have fun drugging myself and drinking vodka with friends
>>712659795that wont save you in those shit co-op games
>>712660030fug I posted wrong vid
>>712660073well you did hit the right barrel at least
>>712656784 (OP)They also shat on Jill
>RE5>she becomes Wesker's ninja sex doll>ReRE3>Ugly girl bossAnd now they're probably going to be using Nu-Jill for stuff, as seen with the last movie.
>>712660073Reminds me of my first RE4 playthrough. In that truck section, I thought you were supposed to run for the hole in the cliff. Only to be ran over lmao.
Matt even exposed Capcom for screwing him and Alyson over.
>>712662848>going non-unionDamn, I might start liking Capcom now
>>712656784 (OP)>>Made Code Veronica not numbered title despite Mikami wanting it to be called RE4,This is false.
Never, at any point, was CV in consideration to be a numbered title. Here's how it went
>1998The following titles are in some stage of development:
BIO3 (PSX)
Code Veronica (DC)
BIO1.9 / 2.1 (PSX)
Survivor (PSX)
Zero (N64)
Throughout the year, several events occur including Code Veronica's protagonist being changed from Jill to Claire (a decision made by Sugimura due to Kamiya rewriting RE2's ending without Sugimura's input) and Zero being shelved as the 64DD flops and development on the N64 stalls in preparation for new hardware from Nintendo.
>1999BIO3 is cancelled as Kamiya is pushed from Producer to Director on the new Sony hardware, the PlayStation 2.
Mikami, not wanting to disappoint fans of the games, decides that one of the projects in development for the PlayStation should be given the BIO3 title, and between Survivor and the EX. BATTLE styled 1.9/2.1, he decides that 1.9/2.1 should have the name. The game is given an extended development time to compensate and everything past the Downtown Raccoon City section is added in this time.
In 1999, the following are in some form of development:
Original BIO3 (Cancelled)
BIO4 (PS2)
BIO3 (PSX, Releases)
Code Veronica (DC)
Zero (GCN, shelved)
Survivor (PSX)
CV was never at any point a numbered title. This is a rumour that has never had any basis in the reality. There was never any opportunity to take a numbered title as we know there was always one in active development while CV was being worked on.
>>712662848They brought him back for Death Island though, and that was after his RE2make VA had already done Infinite Dankness.
>>712663976It's likely how we got Lily Gao.
>>712666674Yes, in an attempt to make amends to him after fans brought attention to this tweet.
>>712664784Damn dude you know your shit, what can you tell us about re3.5 aside from the same shit every YouTuber says. I heard the script the castle build was finished, but never found
It's been a while since I've replayed REmake 4 but isn't the second cop meant to be alive when they set him on fire?
>>712666674It kinda makes sense though. Matt has a really deep voice so it fits middle-aged Leon for RE6 and Death Island while Nick's higher pitched voice works better for RE2 and stuff set around RE4 like Infinite Darkness.
>>712667530There wouldn't really be that much change between 28 year old Leon and 40 year old Leon.
>>712656784 (OP)why do you sound like a kpop stan account on twitter
>>712667028Lily was part unionization of the RE2 VA and part 'Muh Ashun Representashun'
>>712667242The scenarios for all builds was finished and a lot of them were just sold off to individual collectors, not an involved story.
For the build everyone was interested in (Hallucination / Hookman), here's the details we know:
>Leon is part of an Anti-Umbrella Organization (Gaiden makes reference to it, though when Leon became the lead of BIO4, Gaiden became non-canonical)>This is the same organization Chris is a part of, which is how he was able to locate him for Claire during CV>He is investigating around Central Europe for leads (similar to how he dispatched Ark Thomphson to Sheena Island)>While there he goes to a village that seems to be comprised entirely of Umbrella agents who are acting coy>Leon investigates a derelict castle near the village and discovers a single zombie. After dispatching it, he wonders how an isolated zombie ended up in the castle with no signs of a further outbreak or lab >The main scenario of the game would involve a similar setup to CV- Leon goes to Spencer's castle and at the same time it is attacked by Wesker's HCF, the HCF unit being wiped out and it is here that Leon becomes infected From there, it is likely not too dissimilar from the existing games we have. RE4 itself does not have much in the way of original writing- perhaps the only original concept to it might be Ada Wong since she has no equivalent in the other builds or what we know (Trish, perhaps?).
Krauser is a standin for Vergil from Stylish BIO4, but he may also be a standin for either an early iteration of Spencer or an early iteration of Wesker.
Saddler/Salazar are absolutely earlier versions of Spencer though.
As another thing, the prologue section does make mention of Leon becoming aware of Sherry's capture by another organization, which is in reference to Wesker's Report, where his group took Sherry after RE2.
This prologue section is freely available- it's called "Diary of a Madman" if I recall.
>>712667768>Skirts & legsYes pls.
>>712667892>>part unionizationSo Lily became union when she took the job?
>started playing Biohazard 2 SourceNext Rebirth
>it's great
>massive upgrades over the original game
>hype
>>712656784 (OP)Darkside is her canon look in my head. I don't care about the other games, or how they destroyed her in Revelations.
>>712668093The combat in this game is really really terrible and I think their constant cheap shots at religious iconography to be eViL is cheap and in bad taste
>>712668093>western legs with actual calves>not the toothpicks asian devs likeNice.
>>712668602Sounds cheap. I will play it at some point. I am busy with the Resident Evils series now.
https://youtu.be/rnXYodVHIz0
when are they going to remake it? It will be funny to see NuClaire do this action hero stuff.
>>712668093tight jeans>
https://www.gematsu.com/2021/10/tormented-souls-for-ps4-xbox-one-and-switch-launches-in-early-2022-new-outfit-and-weapon-update-launches-october-28
>>712657272Its funny how this shit literally happens in the middle of Paris lol. Its not some middle of nowhere town like Raccoon City. Like why did the police and government not get involved when a fucking attack helicopter was shooting up a building lol
Code Veronica and Devil May Cry 1 have similar feel.
https://youtu.be/YIue51ggD9c
I want to see this kino moment in the remake
>>712668850>>712669258They already skipped over it.
>>712667768nudity like 1st game?
>>712656784 (OP)not even a real character, just a reskinned elza walker.
Dusk Golem said Code Veronica and 0 are the next remakes.
https://youtu.be/j4jGRpfbxhs
>>712668263No, Jolene Andersen joined a union after she did the 2 remake so Capcom recast her for the 4 remake with Lily.
>slap some classic mods on RE4R
>everything doing his turtleneck tends to have UV stretching issues
>also forgot he has a fucking double chin so he just looks like some chad meme in Leon's wear
>another "fully equippable" player character confirmed for Requiem
Grace only shitters, how are we coping?
I'm still waiting for that anon from the other thread to follow up on explaining this. They only did the first few tiers and stopped
>>712657272CV came out 2 years before the first RE movie.
>>712667976It would be cool if those builds got released like 1.5 did. There was also that zombie build that nobody got info from aside from getting scrapped immediately.
>>712670319Oh yeah I saw that image a few weeks ago and tried to make sense of it. There's like random file names and random unknown shit
>>712670257having leon is not a big surprise. a big surprise would be the game having several characters like RE6. So Leon and Claire and Chris and Jill and Ada.
>>712669795He's always wrong with resident evil shit
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Thoughts on the RE2 Seamless mod that HQs all backgrounds, menus and some effects?
It's a nice graphics upgrade if you are interested but I kinda prefer the original chunky version of the backgrounds, it makes the gameplay more focused and your character for some reason.
https://youtu.be/Nk0W1qylTVQ
https://youtu.be/Nk0W1qylTVQ
>>712670539The Hookman build never really existed either. It was just a proof of concept with a few heavily scripted rooms shown off in the demo videos.
>>712671581He said they were remaking 0 to tie it into the upcoming movie he claimed was adapting RE0. Which couldn't be further from the truth. He should stick to making up bullshit about videogames instead of making up shit about movies.
>>712669429false
they are going to REmake it before RE5R
Why does duskgolem make shit up? do people give him money?
>>712670257wat? its the opposite, fags here were complaining you're going to have to play as Grace only even though we already played as female noob in RE1 and RE2
>>712662848I remember seeing a stream by Alyson Court talking giving an update on Resident Evil or something, the crazy thing is though, she was streaming from her bathtub. Who the fuck streams in a bath? Crazy cat lady shit. Love her voice though.
I wasted like a million ammo into the giant zulu warriors before just giving up and using my rocket launcher ammo. I should really just use things and not be greedy
>>712670257>SpeculationCant wait for The Full game comes up and SHUT UP you morons...Holy fuck you people are annoying
>>712675131Another fully equippable playble character is no longer speculation after yesterday bro. We don't know who it is exactly yet but Grace is not the only main character.
>>712669530Most you'll get is her in her underwear and stuck with needles like acupuncture.
>>712656784 (OP)Here you go OP.
>>Helena took her position in six, thus Sherry and Claire not getting a reunion.>>Leon took her motorbike gimmick.>>Claire wears the same dull Karen clothing, with that red jacket.>>Just "I smell shit face Claire", no more Genki Claire in Rev2.>>Pretending Claire is terrible with children in Revelations 2>>Never depicted reuniting with Sherry following Code Veronica.>>Claire's return to the series was desired by fans.>>Reappears in a new film and made damsel in distress (acceptable the first time).>>Shown again in a retelling called The Darkside Chronicles, and playable on a Nintendo system you'd have to buy.>>Claire's reappearance in Resident Evil 6 was anticipated by fans.>>Sherry, Leon, and Chris were all present in Resident Evil 6,except Claire.>>Reduced to a few name drops and remarks In RE6.>>Fans wanted Alyson back.>>Recieved a different voice actor and Tobey Mcguire Claire in REV2.>>The game is merely Code Veronica copied and pasted with a dash of TLOU.>>A manga depicting Claire being thrashed and rendered useless is released by Capcom.>>Capcom participates in an online bloodline joke.>>Never seen again until Remake 2, which had a different voice, face, and attire.>>The in-game character is criticized for being weird looking.>>Capcom goes back and purposefully makes Claire look retarded.>>Irons beats Claire, which is simply Capcom venting their resentment on the character. Also wasn't in the orginal Resident Evil 2.>>In an effort to forget the previous iteration, Nu-Claire posted everywhere.>>It's up to modders to correct her shoddy alternate costume.>>Seen being tossed around by Mr. X in the REverse trailer>> The release of Infinite Darkness. Claire is beaten once more and hardly appears in the film.>>One costume was included in the Fortnite release, and it was only half as good as the STARS pack. Sorry Leon.>>Locked away in DBD.>>Not even a Christmas sweater.
Yo big shoutouts to Phase Zero
>>712673024If they wanted to remake it, they would've already done it.
They wouldn't randomly decide to go out of order and do 4 before it, and Wesker already being around in 4 shows that they don't care if he first came back in CV. 5 will likely just fold Umbrella Chronicles and Lost in Nightmares together.
>>712673531She's a bit nuts. Apparently she had a normal channel and one where she posted her crazy stuff where she takes her clothes off and shit.
>>712657272Milla swears Alice is merely Jill, but the reason is she wanted to be Jill. However, several of Alice's moments featured elements from Claire. Furthermore, Alice is Claire without the R and scrabbled around.
>>712675734Moira was given her empathy with children in Rev2
>>712679473Log off Chris.
>>712657646>And Rev2 was the best RE game post 4. Better than OG 1 I'd say.Someone get the retard bell out
Honestly, CV is the only game that needs a remake due to dated graphics. RE5 and RE6 still look great. RE1 and RE0 still look great, but the tank controls and prerendered backgrounds date them.
>>712664784What was the original Bio3 supposed to be?
>>712667768>>712668093>Made by LatinxNo gracias
>>712656784 (OP)>resulting her becoming less popularNo it's because Code Veronica wasn't very good.
Even if it was a numbered entry the same thing would have happened.
Claire is a fine character, but she got overshadowed by Leon in RE2 and she's just not as iconic as Jill. Rev2 was kinda dildos. I like her in RE2make (despite the occasional odd expression), but again, Leon.
>>712680830It was just HUNK on a boat retrieving a G-Virus sample.
4th Survivor was kind of a KH secret boss moment in that context, setting up the next title.
It wasn't too heavily planned though, it was more of a distinct idea that was kind of aimless which is why it was so easy to scrap. Its plot would've also, presumably, tied into the events of the Ada audio drama for BIO2.
In the audio drama, "The Female Spy Ada Lives!", Ada intercepts the exchange point where HUNK was meant to dropoff the G-Virus and tries to steal it (though if I recall, it's ultimately lost once again for both sides). This would then lead into BIO3 where HUNK needs to attain another sample of the virus.
The state of RE at the time of 2's completion was an interesting one, since it was completely unrecognizable. Here's a brief rundown:
>Ada was "on her way to return" to Leon (post-Drama)>Leon was about to deployed on an Anti-Umbrella mission that would end with his replacement (Gaiden- perhaps Ada would save the real Leon?)>Jill and Chris would be leading an anti-Umbrella operation against the Ashford Family (Early CV, before Kamiya changed Claire's final lines Jill would've been the lead)>Sherry was on the run from Umbrella after getting separated from Claire and Leon, but escapes with new character "Meg" to CanadaAnd the big one
>Rather than Raccoon City getting nuked, a combination of Umbrella soldiers and US soldiers wipe out Raccoon City and surrounding towns using napalm (the soldiers are called "Epidemic Prevention Soldiers")But RE3's ending pretty thoroughly nixed a lot of this, and then BIO4 being about Leon got rid of the rest.
>>712680548The main reason I'd want CV to get remade is so we get more RE2make-style gameplay. Ideally the story and gameplay content would be radically different from the original.
>>712656784 (OP)They also removed her red hair in remake2
>>712682069Did any of these concepts survive in some other forms? Like maybe the boat thing was repurposed into Dead Aim or something.
>>712682094The main reason I'd want CV to get remade is to make Steve less awful in every way possible. Or at least to kill him off much earlier. Or just not have him at all and replace him with, I dunno, Billy Coen or something.
>>712682792HUNK showed up in the very first trailer for Revelations 1, which was set on a boat. Revelations 1 had a different plot in general originally, before the final one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0xReoS2nA
0:29 to 0:31
>>712682792Possibly.
The whole secret agent on a boat idea probably did just turn into Dead Aim for example, as for the rest...
>AdaThe RE3 Epilogue maintains some of the more human aspects of her character, but by RE4 she's pretty thoroughly changed to keep up with Leon's new pace.
>LeonCompletely changed several times from Gaiden to BIO4 to release RE4.
>Jill and ChrisJill just got slotted into RE3, likely occupying a similar role to her CV incarnation since 1.9 didn't really have a real main character if I recall.
Chris just maintained the role he was going to have since he stayed in CV.
>SherryHer narrative was changed to being captured by Wesker's HCF, but due to BIO4's dev hell this got dropped and by Darkside it's just that the government had her all along.
>Raccoon CityOddly, RE9 seems to be depicting the city like it was destroyed by napalm rather than a nuke or series of bombings. But other than that, that was completely dropped.
>>712683306>>Oddly, RE9 seems to be depicting the city like it was destroyed by napalm rather than a nuke or series of bombings. But other than that, that was completely dropped.The Paul Anderson movie faggot claimed Paul came up with it. What a lying piece of shit.
I love resident evil and hate all of the harder difficulties. normal is the only balanced one
>>712657564On normal difficulty you can leave the mansion without firing a single shot
You just need two flash granages (one goes for the dog so you can get the fake key and another to the boss/elder crimsom head).
>>712683515Paul Anderson did influence the series a lot as well, that's pretty difficult to deny.
Few things off the top of my head:
>The logoOutbreak
>Laser HallwayRE4, Umbrella Chronicles.
>Red QueenUmbrella Chronicles
>CloningUmbrella Chronicles
>Reconstructed Hazard Sites Umbrella Corps.
>BOW Pseudo-Psychic PowersEvelyn in RE7
>Returning to Raccoon CityRE9. Yes, Capcom had never really shown any intention of going back to RC at all. There's the Outbreak cliffhanger ending showing scientists studying the ruins, but that's it, no BIOHAZARD DASH like concept or anything.
This isn't anything uncommon for Capcom though.
With Umbrella Chronicles, that was because UC was both an introduction and a prologue to RE5, so it incorporated movie elements to keep casual fans engaged and go "Wow, this isn't that complicated!"
But beyond that, Capcom does a lot of field testing in extended media.
Rebecca showed up in "the STAGE" before Vendetta.
Albert Wesker was resurrected via clones in the Netflix series, which is something Capcom suggested they include.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lisa's more neutral role in the latest film was something Capcom pushed to gauge interest, as Lisa is now (likely) to appear in RE9.
>>712683972Has anything good ever come out of a video game movie besides Kano becoming Australian?
>>712661459God Jill is the perfect woman in Umbrella Chronicles
>>712667976Based knowledge anon
>>712670434Itโs clearly stylized after the Matrix film.Also they changed Steveโs hair to look like DiCaprioโs.
>>712668523Darkside Chronicles RE2 Claire is peak Claire
>>712668523>how they destroyed herShe was in her 30s anon.
>>712684248>Jill is the perfect womanyes
>>712684656>RemakeNot my Jill
>>712684702That's alright, she's my Jill
>>712683972The extra information is acknowledged, but it's not what I wanted to know.
>>There's the Outbreak cliffhanger ending showing scientists studying the ruins, but that's it, no BIOHAZARD DASH like concept or anything.The fact that the scientists are practically in the city indicates that they intended to utilize it again, as it likely never materialized. With the way the plot was progressing for the remaining characters. However, I believe Anderson played Outbreak and simply got ahead of it.
>>712685050>This is where we both go our Separate Waysโข available now for $9.99What did Leon mean by this
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>>712656784 (OP)>Why does Capcom hate Claire so muchThere's a Ada fanboy high up on capcom who makes it his mission to prop up ada by putting all the other female characters down.
This is why if I was put in charge of the RE series, I would kill Ada off permanently, Maybe also reveal she had a secret kid with Leon that the big bad captured and that Leon retires to raise or something.
>>712664784I still find it very odd that Code Veronica is so important yet it is somehow a very obscure title in the playerbase. Isn't like you couldn't play it on other consoles either considering they made a revision later.
>>712685226You can't kill Ada they'd just say it was a clone
>>712685229Well that's because it isn't important.
It was intended to be important early on, but so was every title of that time. By this point, CV's relevancy really extends to t-Veronica, which is most an obscure factoid than anything else.
>>712685327Then we will have to do the impossible, Find the Ada capcom simp and suicide him in fortnight.
>>712683306>Oddly, RE9 seems to be depicting the city like it was destroyed by napalm rather than a nuke or series of bombings.it doesn't really look like either, just an amalgamation of pictures of rubble that artists have seen
>>712685050Capcom was retarded as fuck for not including that dress in the game
>>712683972>field testing in extended media.>Rebecca showed up in "the STAGE" before Vendetta.Allegedly that wasn't intentional though, the writer of Vendetta said they only settled on Rebecca after a negotiation process with Capcom.
What's even the reason of returning to Raccoon City?
Yeah it sounds cool but there's really no point since everything is nuked.
>>712685814Thermobaric/"experimental" bombs, low to potentially zero radiation yield. They basically vacuum-bombed Raccoon City and then hoped nothing would come after it after that, die off without sustenance.
>>712685941how can they even confirm the virus didn't get out of the city limits then
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>>712685941except the trailer showed like half of the downtown looked completely untouched
so i guess they just dropped one bomb and were like yeah it's probably fine
>>712685941>after it after thatout of it*, my brain is fried today. Also honestly there's probably some secret super villain bullshit made in the "one place no one will ever look" logic, or some remnant of the Birkin shitness.
>>712686002Don't ask me what the writers probably don't care to know themselves. It was always not nuclear since RE3, but the Outbreak devs thought it was nuclear, and Degeneration went out of its way to make the nuke be a media assumption. The logistics behind "surely nothing will ever leave Raccoon City after that" is entirely on the writers who likely didn't plan ahead some 27 years.
>>712685390but I mean it is like a high point because the hype of wesker debuts here. I really liked that and other details.
>>712686150they tried to do the eva thing but forgot to give their non-nuke nukes a catchy name
>>712686080They must be retconning it to have been a napalm bomb or that is one utterly pathetic nuke
>>712686297Well it wasn't really a hype moment for Wesker to return. It was more to the effect of a "huh, he's back" and that was it.
It also didn't actually explain how he came back.
>>712683306>Gaidenfrom re fandom:
>the game was never considered part of the series timeline ("canon") by the writers of the series, despite a statement from Hiroki Katoh
>>712686374it was always a conventional warhead
the actual reason it looks like that is just the art design not thinking too much about it, same reason there isn't any greenery
>>712657646It was surprisingly good for a spin off but lets not get carried away.
>>712686434The Gaiden canon debate has always been a hot one (PU had like, a 30 page thread about it), but I generally see it as something conceptualized with the idea of what the canon was and it was always going to be discarded as soon as someone else wanted to use Leon but didn't care for Gaiden's ending, which is what ended up happening.
>They ruined Leon
>They ruined Claire
>They ruined Jill
>They ruined Nemesis
>They ruined Carlos
>They ruined Nikolai
>They ruined SH2's James
>SH1 and 3 Demake on the horizon, so they'll ruin Heather too
I HATE CORPORATE GREED AND NORMALFAGGOTS WHO KEEP GIVING THEM MONEY
WHYYYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>712668093Too bad this game sucks ass.
>>712685814https://youtu.be/jg6nGWSRdqA?si=V6-65W20CjQJEtZg
>>712687318It's actually hilarious to me how Outbreak presumed Raccoon City is one gigantic multi-cratered, irradiated death zone, and now it turns out "oops actually it was mostly intact and radiation-free, it's just a bombed American Chernobyl now"
>>712657272>goes from a college student who survived a zombie outbreak to an action star who watched The Matrix onceI can understand Leon becoming an action star since the government hires him and gives him the super spy training to become a super cop but the whole Claire thing is pretty half assed.
>>712687535That's her Redfield genetics awakening after the crisis thanks to the training by her former STARS member brother
>>712656784 (OP)I love the mention in Outbreak.
He survived, prove me wrong?
>>712688316Another note also mentions Dario Rosso as Losso
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>>712689236It's funny seeing these TL quirks, like, this is so obviously some guy in the office at midnight going fully automatic transcribing katakana to English, automatically switching the 'Ro' to 'Lo'.
Since Requiem sorta ties into Outbreak is it worth a playthrough?
>>712691225Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah I guess....
>>712689037That was a fake.
>>712689037>RE9 opens up>We see footage of "Wesker" falling into the volcano and dying">Cuts to a man in the shadows watching the footage >"I knew that clone was a waste a time...."
Requiem will fix everything
>>712693020>>Chris posting
>reinstall RE6 after not touching it since 2013 based on my last played log on steam
>fuck around and get into mercenaries, play some rounds as Sherry
>what the fuck, I can slide, I can jump back onto the ground, I can freely roll around, I can dodge roll, I can quick shot, I can basically parry with the right timing, it just keeps going
Why the FUCK don't we have a standalone Mercenaries game with all the main characters and iconic locations to fight in? Seriously, this game, on the combat side, is actually amazing. And the 3DS game doesn't count.
>>712693574capcom has spent decades being committed to the goal of making the worst possible decisions when it comes to multiplayer RE
>>7126935741. They don't know how to make that movement anymore
2. Normalfags don't care about/like Mercenaries
3. As seen with ReRE4, CRAPCOM doesn't understand Mercenaries either
>>712693574>> 3DS game doesn't count.It's entertaining for the first few days, and I enjoyed attaining SS in all areas. When you get to the end, it feels a little hollow, and I wish they had expanded the cast. I wished for greater character inclusion, and to be honest, multiple modes with their own distinct features. If Capcom was the first to use Overwatch/Marvel Rival dynamic, it would've been a success. Could you imagine Capcom vs. Marvel Rivals? However, that ship has tragically sailed, therefore they'll need to come up with something else.
>>712693574>reinstall RE6stopped reading there and already know you regretted it
>>712693020Chrisposting aside people who ship those two (and Chris/Jill for that matter) have got my respect. Some of them have been on this boat for 10-20 years and still going strong
RE3 has some pretty cool mods
So is separate ways any good? that shit never went on sale even 2 years after release, thinking about pulling the trigger now
>>712693574That's kind of the thing with RE6: the campaign is dogshit if hysterically contrived and absurd, the Mercenaries once you actually know the mechanics put basically every other TPS that isn't something like Vanquish to shame with how much you can do and the capabilities at your fingertips. You don't need all those moves, and the game never even bothers to teach you how to actually use them worth a damn, but it's kind of absurd that Capcom made an awesome combat system for a terrible game that straight up doesn't take advantage of it whatsoever.
>>712697989It's pretty short but it's good I think it's worth $10
>>712698073how replayable is it? I played the OG separate ways once and found it okayish.
I'm between this and darkest dungeon to grab and play during the weekend
>>712698173I only played through it once
>>712697997The amount of BBW mods is wild. Shame most of them aren't on nexus
I suppose I should think about not killing every enemy I see
>>712661459Best Jill and Best Resident Evil. Raid Mode is the best thing that's ever happened to this franchise. Although, Revelations 2 Raid Mode was a big step down sadly.
>>712698358Conserving ammo is crucial yeah. Especially on higher difficulties
Not looking forward to granny Ada
I got RE7 and 8 years ago but only played the vanilla versions, now capcom is offering bundles with all the DLC for like $10... are these games worth revisiting for the DLCs?
>>712698358It's fine, just change Sheva's weapons. She's shit with pistols and smgs, she just wastes ammo. Give her the rifle.
>>712697989>So is separate ways any good?Best RE DLC Capcom ever made, longer the RE3 remake lmao, has a lot of new bosses
>>712693574>And the 3DS game doesn't count.Mercenaries 3D is amazing and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Second best Mercenaries after 5
>>712656784 (OP)Where muh Alfred senerio
I tried going back to RE4make and something about the movement feels off...
it sucks how re3r was abandoned
>if you play RT no mods
>if you play mods, no RT
>>712656784 (OP)Because there is some roastie who self inserts as Ada at Capcom and she has been boycotting the rest of the heroines
>found an ada look alike OF whore with big natural booba
>somehow lost the bookmark and forgot her name
damn it
i learned from the remakes that people had ball webcams in the 90s also usbs.
Maybe thats just Umbrella.
I love OG Claire and Sherry!
>>712710796might coom to the sniper rifle figurine
what a fuckin cool pose
DAMN
I started playing Village.
It's a pretty good time so far. Pretty rough start, but gets better as you progress into the Castle.
I just made it to the Beneviento house.
Looks absolutely incredible though, makes me excited for RE9 since it's not on last gen consoles like Village
Are the Revelations games fun anons? Which main numbered entry are they most comparable to?
>>712710956revelations 1 is pure trash shovelware
rev 2 is just like RE6
>>712711082Rev 2 is the best TPS character action game ever made? zammm. I must try it out!
>>712707780If an Ada fan had so much power, then Ada would not be cut out of RE8.
>>712698704Every RE7 DLC is fun except Daughters but Banned Footage comes in a bundle so it's fine.
Not finished with 8 yet and planning on playing both Revelations too. Bit on an RE overdose lately lol
>>712711424Gotta play em all before 9 comes out after all. has to be done, yep.
New Leon/Ashley game when?
>>712656784 (OP)>Why does Capcom hate Claire so much?Her views don't align with Capcom's core values...
>>712710892Requiem is going so be more like RE7 (it has the same director). I forgot how easy storage management was in Village I hope that doesn't come back.
>>712675131At least one of the leakers who mentioned Leon did so while talking about all the shit we saw in the original trailer, long before it was shown. So, yeah, it's happening.
>>712711528I don't think there even is any storage management in Village. Unless this changes when I get further in.
I got out of Dimitrescu castle with like 150k Lei and could buy all the storage upgrades at the Duke and never had any issues with storage before getting the upgrades in the first place.
>>712711674That's what I mean. Since they gave crafting components and key items their own storage you never run out of room. I played on hardcore and never had to sacrifice an item. Shit was stupid.
>>712657564>>712657690>played re for the first time>never played re before>mansion and stuff was really kino>but then you learn you can actually leave the mansion>suddenly you fight giant snakes>then you fight retarded alligator goblins>story is about le perfect human beeing againI liked the whole mystery concept, tank controls werenโt bad but
>please knife, go back knifeWas meh. Ready for R2emake and 3. then I will play the ogโs and probably skip straight to 7
>wasted all these years on freaking Ethan and Rose
What was Capcom thinking?
>>712712042Letting DEI touch slops instead of contaminating masterpieces.
>>712712601>new cast is a straight white couple>DEII'm surprised you can still type with that much brainrot
>>712712042ETHAN SHUT UP
ETHAN STOP
ETHAN YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ETHAN GO AWAY
>>712712042>CHADthanYOU'RE SUCH A FUCKING MOLD
I LOVE IT
>>712711946>probably skip straight to 7>Skipping 4, one of the most highly praised seminal masterpieces of vidya history
>>712711946No. You should try RE2 first, it's cinema.
>>712711946No real reason to play the originals if you're already playing the remakes.
>>712656784 (OP)>why does capcom hate Claire so muchHuh... Jill Valentine? The OG alongside Chris? Only gets 2 games after her debut, one of which is a 3DS title that feels like a mobile game.
At least Remake 2 was a great game and a great introduction of her to a new audience.
Remake 3 was trash and for people who are new to RE, a terrible way to know Jill.
>>712697834I did my speedruns as Lady, and it was great.
>>712687535Outside of that FMV she really doesn't do anything too over the top.
>>712670257This is Alan Wake 2 all over again
>>712710892I loved all of Village. It felt pretty much just like 4-2, and you can't go wrong doing that in my books. I'll probably play through it again and finally do the DLC whenever the native Switch 2 port comes.
>>712713870RE:2 was not a great introduction for Claire considering it completely changed her character and storyline.
>>712711082Don't listen to this faggot. 1 is fantastic, 2 is not as good, but raid mode makes up for it.
>>712712601What the everloving fuck are you talking about? Kill yourself.
>>712714478>1 is fantasticEvery enemy is effectively the same enemy, the level design is terrible, it has a dogshit and nonsensical storyline, and even if you work past all of that, you get the ugliest version of Jill yet who is only playable for half the game.
>>712714478ayo dis nigga goin around scanning grubs n shit for bonus points and to progress the mission
with some jeet tier gameplay
the type of game a gta V character would be seen playing during a cutscene
>>712657702What exclusive lmao it cmae out on literally every systems at the time except xbox and pc
>>712656784 (OP)Code Veronica's only value is explaining why Wesker returned in 5 and 4.
So Capcom should make both Code Veronica and RE5 not canon in their remake-verse.
Remake RE1 again where Wesker never died.
>>712714653>Code Veronica's only value is explaining why Wesker returned in 5 and 4.It's funny how quick retards who haven't played CV are to act like they know what happens in CV.
Fun fact: CV NEVER explains how or why Wesker came back. Nobody asks him how he's still walking around, and at no point is it ever addressed.
>be me circa 2010
>14 year old
>never cared about resident evil
>for some reason buy RE5 on PS3, blitz through it, 100% everything and get the platinum trophy
>never buy another RE game ever again
i still don't really know what was going through my head back then
>>712657564>>712657690That's not unusual.
The game is atrociously paced and wastes A LOT of your time by making you burn corpses.
>>712674294Just shoot them in the legs and kick them.
how come both Capcom and Konami are so adverse to giving the first games a remake
>>712714791Konami literally are doing that right now. I know there's been rumours for years about Capcom doing RE1, but i genuinely think they know just how good the Gamecube remake is and they can just keep re-releasing it.
What did you think who is this guy? Spencer or Brandon Bailey?
i feel like RE isnt really a zombie survival/killing game at the pro level, its more like Zombie dodger 9000 or a zombie dodgem.
>>712662848I don't blame Capcom and other japanese developers for hiring non-union VAs over union VAs because of that dumbass strike they did back around 2015 - 2016, that brought that on themselves.
>>712714947>but i genuinely think they know just how good the Gamecube remake is and they can just keep re-releasing it.The first one isn't part of the same series as the other remakes.
The 2-4 remakes are all stylized as the BIOHAZARD RE: series, whereas the 2002 game is just "biohazard". That RE: stylization is also in the west, though harder to spot (the R and E are coloured red in the logos, unlike the main games).
I imagine if Capcom were to do more remakes, 1 is just a given if they're doing 5, but I also think those are the only other games they'll remake.
Capcom probably likes the convenience of every title just being numbered, which is why they've skipped over CV, merged elements of Survivor into the remakes, stuff like that.
>>712714791Silent hill 1 remake was already announced
Resident Evil 1 has Jill, so they're avoiding it
>>712715325maybe they are saving the RE1 remake because they want to kickstart an alternate plot line.
>>712656784 (OP)There's no turning back time. Did you know that the director of Resident evil 7 hates the original games? He revived the series and they trust him completely. So enjoy it.
Ada is so fucking sexy is insane
Followed by Rose
Then Jill
Then Sheva
...
...
....
Rest are meh
>>712714947yeah but Konami is doing it only for easy money. they treat all of their franchises like an afterthought and will outsource everything they can to other devs because it's the cheapest option for them.
Capcom at least has a respect for its original creators and art and knows where to stop before becoming too corporate and greedy. They actually fucking make games instead of handing it off to other studios. They care about being actual creators and creating art instead of just being a soulless conglomerate corporation that only cares about money and nothing else, like Konami
>>712664784Wrong. Mikami wanted Code Veronica to be called Resident Evil 3 while Nemesis was intended to be the spinoff game.
>>712715479You can keep posting how they fucked up the cinematography in the cutscenes however much you want, the rest of the SH2 remake was excellent. The remake of 1 will be too, and you'll seethe for years.
>>712690994The only connection so far is that Grace is Alyssa's daughter who's one of the 8 main characters in Outbreak 1 & 2. If you want try the Outbreak games feel free, they're good even if you're playing single player.
i just want more of the urban american re2r/3r its awesome.
>>712710956Revelations 2 is like re5 but you can control your partner too
it's a very fun game and has the best extra mode (Raid Mode)
RE5 Should have been an all Ex-STARS members showdown against Wesker.
RE6 duos should have been Chris/Jill, Leon/Claire and Sherry/Ada
RE7 should have had a real protagonist like Grace.
RE8 should have come after RE4R and featured the new protag alongside agent Ashley in the role of Chris in the game.
>>712715545Kill yourself. Don't even think about it. Just do it. The world and video game industry will be way better when you do.
Your opinion also doesn't matter. The corporate outsourced trash was forgotten about within a month despite being a cash-in nostalgia product based on the only SH game that mainstream ever cared about. UE5 SH1 imitation made by europoors will be forgotten about even faster and will make 30% money that demake 2 did. After that Konami will change the studio and make even cheaper homogenized UE5 versions of games they made in the past back when they had creative devs and were relevant within the industry and will make even more shitty outsourced spin offs until they run out of money and will kill the series and leave the industry yet again.
>>712715414Daddy Chris is hot.
>>712715246Union-VAs are shit anyway.
Stick to theatre actors.
They're better trained and it's a larger talent pool.
Resident evil 8 they wasted the opportunity to reveal that Umbrella was run by literal actual monsters. That would have been funny and would have explained why Umbrella is so evil
>>712715246Wait, the current strike isn't a new one?
>>712715809I think Revelations 2 is the worst Resident Evil but it has its moments. I disliked Raid Mode compared to Revelations 1, and the framerate literally stops whenever you open a box on PS3, its also really ugly...
but on the other hand, being really ugly is an advantage for Revelations 2 unlike for RE6.
>>712715971Sorry, brown, but i will never forget Silent Hill 2 from Bloober Team, no matter how hard (you) trying to be angry.
>>712716195It's a different one. The one they did back then was demanding more pay or something like that
>>712716018He was ugly as fuck. U too, old man
>>712715964The Wesker showdown sucked in general. Fighting Wesker at the other Spencer Estate in the DLC was more appropriate.
Ethan being a nobody who trained for RE8 was perfectly fine and refreshing. Having Chris, Leon, Jill or Claire struggle to survive in a house full of hilbillies would be unbelievable at this point. Also Ethan is basically a victim of the new threats after Umbrella, and that gives us and Chris a motivation to fight on.
>>712664784>This is false.>Never, at any point, was CV in consideration to be a numbered title. Here's how it wentRetard, Miami himself said it was supposed to be names Resident Evil 4
>>712716235I don't give a fuck if you are playing this corporate homoginzed garbage that. I mean it's sad that I'm forced to live in a world filled with primitive and shallow jungle monkeys like you who don't care about art but it's more about dirty animals like you giving money to big corporations that don't care about art in the first place. Supporting evil corporate greed and making the industry worse.
Again. It doesn't really matter in Konami's case. UE5 imitation by random eastern europoors is already forgotten by the general public and SH1 will be forgotten about even faster and make even less money aka the only thing Konami cares about.
100 years from now people will still play the true original 2001 Silent Hill 2 created by Team Silent. No one will remember the corporate imitation.
>>712714791>>712715326>forgetting about REmakeare you retarded?
>>712715414>Did you know that the director of Resident evil 7 hates the original games?based
>>712716951>game already has a remake>why isnt capcom making a remake of a remakefuck off
>>712717030You have mental illness
>>712716730>Having Chris, Leon, Jill or Claire struggle to survive in a house full of hilbillies would be unbelievable at this pointi didn't mention them for RE8?
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>>712714791>CapcomIt has already been remade
>KonamiThey literally JUST announced a SH1 remake this week
>>712716915>>712717030Fuck off autist. The first remake was in 2002 and is blatantly not in the same style as the 2-4r games.
If they did a remake it would be a remake of the remake but the og. You know this you are just being a sht brained lying autistic dumb fuck
>>712716836You sound like a broken record clinging to nostalgia like itโs a religious experience. Silent Hill 2 remake is pure cinema like Lost Highway if it let you smash your traumas into the floor with a lead pipe. This isnโt just about "graphics," itโs about atmosphere, immersion, and control. facial animations alone give more psychological weight to James than any of the stiff, tanky nonsense from the original ever could.
You talk about โartโ while defending decade-old PS2 fog and static faces like they were some holy relics. Letโs be real - the only โartโ back then was in the CGI cutscenes, everything else looked like budget-grade placeholder assets. remake fixes that. Poles didnโt "imitate," they elevated, they kept the soul and gave it a body that doesnโt move like itโs coded in MS Paint. You donโt care about โcorporations,โ you just canโt stand that someone improved on something youโve built your identity around. Meanwhile, Iโll enjoy a deeper, more brutal, and more emotionally resonant SH2 experience while you keep jerking off to pixel fog and calling it "true art."
ignoring all the /vr/min shitpostong, Capcoms remake series is the best thing to hit gaming. Because now every company is doing high effort remakes.
They literally set the bar, as in this is how high it has to be to be successful.
Now we get SH2 remake, Oblivion remake.
Nostalgia fag hipsters lost so hard. Genuine fans won.
>>712714791same with MGS
>start with 3 not 2 or 1lol
Why is RE4R so dogshit while RE VIllage is actually wholesome & chungus???
>>712717301let's face it, you liked SH2 demake only because it has himbo dilf james and you're horny femcel (or trans)
>>712712897>>Skipping 4, one of the most highly praised seminal masterpieces of vidya historyDunno anon but the game looks really incredibly high action paced to me and heavily action movie like. But maybe I will try it.
With Anime I mean
>>712713090I will play both versions
>>712713530Wasnโt re3make heavily gutted?
>>712717668i wondered what her backstory was, she seems to really hate men, perhaps she tried to be normal and date men but couldn't hide the fact she was a monster
So shes basically a giant femcel.
>>712716029>>712717668Here's your (you). Re Village just beta version of re4r. With no gore or good action segments.
THAT'S THE WRONG FUCKING HOLE ANON
>>712717759In game document literally shows she was almost got killed by assassin (male) and in boss fight she stabbed to death by that dagger of assassin she has held for hundred years (yes that's fucking retarded even for RE )
>>712657613Up to this point, the franchise was about regular (but still capable) people in over their heads in an extraordinary circumstance. CV marked the beginning stages of the shift over to superhero anime bullshit, which the movies and then RE4 then picked up and ran with.
>>712717982but doesnt her back story go back farther, she was a socialite or something
the thing thats wrong with the RE series is how the series departed the US to be a globe trotting adventure series.
With some exceptions like 8 would be pretty good as a spin off, which it is basically.
>>712697989I don't know but I'd rather not hear Ada's horrible VA speak.
I'm tired of pretending 7,8 aren't good,
these are silly fun re-imagining of original hexalogy and billions miles better than re4r(trash) and re4rfags should eat the bullet
>>712718147Well, it seems like 9 is returning to be only in America.
7 was also exclusively in America.
>>712717301You sound like a 13 year old middle schooler who doesn't give a flying fuck about art and just screams about wanting to have a newest most shiny toy. You only care about what is considered by mainstream as the new most "TOP TIER GRAPHICS" and don't give a shit about the artistic intension of the crators behind art and and don't care about understanding them. You have the most simplistic, primitive, juvenile, and robotic jungle monkey mentality there is and disregard everything that doesn't perfectly fit into your square box.
Silent Hill since its inception was created from its limitation that forced the devs to be creative and come up with new artistic ideas and experimentation that led all the Team Silent games to be so deeply personal and one of a kind passion projects. The eerie fog that creates a feeling of fear of the unknown. The far-off camera that makes you feel like an alien resident in an alien world. The actors who were chosen because of them being nobodies who didn't even receive a script to sound lost and confused on purpose. Surreal cinematography and camera angles that makes the player feel like they were experiencing someone else's dream. Etc. Etc. Team Silent was always going against established conventions and threw away the idea of mass appeal for the sake of following up with their vision. That's how a deeply personal piece of art is created.
Your new shiny toy is simply that. A toy. A corporate product that steals the ideas of actually creative people from the past while following up with all the predictable established popular corporate trends for the sake of following the cold mathematical calculations of businessmen in big suits who only want money. The only reason it exists in the first place is because Konami was starting to bleed money because of their pachinko business falling. The existence of disgusting creatures like you makes me sick and reminds me why this industry stopped being a creative art form a long time ago.
>>712715537This is false in the sense of what was happening at the time.
Maybe Mikami said that later, but his involvement with games that aren't RE3, REmake, and RE4 is extremely minimal.
There was never any point where CV could've been in consideration for the title. The BIO3 name was already taken before it went into development, by the project Kamiya had been a producer on for the PSX.
>>712716812Yeah, this is what I mean.
It's Mikami saying shit about a game he had no involvement with 20 years after the fact. At the time there was no opportunity for CV to have been considered for BIO3 and BIO4 wasn't in consideration until a point where a BIO3 was close to shipping. This isn't Final Fantasy where they have the next 3 numbered titles all in development at the same time.
The closest thing Mikami said to this, at the time, was that he felt CV was the "real 2".
>>712718391>>712716836>>712715971i've felt what you feel, anon
i can't find anything wrong with what you've said
>>712717739>Wasnโt re3make heavily gutted?The original is also shit.
>>712715479It's shit, it changed the whole tone..
>>712717739RE2 Classic Rebirth has optional quick turn, auto aim and reloading like RERe.
>>712718391Entertaining read, thanks
>>712718391Youโre not defending โart,โ youโre just high on nostalgia fumes. SH2 was a janky, low-budget PS2 title that got lucky. The remake shows what it shouldโve been: deep emotion, cinematic atmosphere - and actual gameplay. You can shoot and hit enemies without the clunky PS2-era nonsense. It's tight, responsive, and brutal- not a chore.
playing SH2 after max payne was laughable. One had fluid, badass gunplay. The other had you flailing around like a drunk puppet in a fog machine.
You glorify technical failure and pretend itโs vision. Thatโs not art- itโs delusion. remake doesnโt erase the original. It buries it for good reason. Stay mad in your sacred landfill.
>>712718493Zoomie, kindly shut your whore mouth. Just because your shitty remake sucked doesn't mean it's because the original was bad. Actually play the game next time, you can even emulate it on your phone if you're poor
>guy makes a classic RE2R fixed camera mod
>but not for RE3R
I dunno unless im missing something and its in his api. I found firstperson mode and its cool
>>712718901I did.
>Downtown is about 50% backtracking>every area after the train crash is just "Explore one half, and if you chose the wrong half I hope you enjoy backtracking here once you've done it properly"It's a game more interested in wasting the player's time than actually providing an interesting gameplay experience.
>>712718391anon please stop. he's already dead. have mercy on him
>>712718957the only thing i remember from the og 3 is Memesis appears more often in more random ways
>>712656784 (OP)>and make her slightly uglier in Revelations 2She's peak in Rev2, pedo.
>>712718886I honestly don't know what conception of art one must have to readily believe that a bunch of randos who had no involvement with the creative process can waltz in and "improve" said art.
What if I thought the Mona Lisa was unfinished and it needed bigger tits and curly hair? I'm not altering it to suit my tastes, I'm making this awful, drab painting into TRVE art.
>>712719069She has Tobey Maguire's face.
>>712718886the other anon is talking about artistry and creativity
you're talking about technical gameplay
how do you not see the difference? the other anon is completely in the right
>>712719117>le olde games were artFuck off zoom child. They were severely limited because of technology
>>712719225Yeah, and paintings were limited by being a medium where correcting mistakes was difficult to impossible. They need to be remade using digital tools.
>>712719225you're repeating what he already said
>>712718886whats REALLY funny is people who defend tank controls, never actually lived in that period. Because at the time, tank controls were criticised for being bad controls. And it wasn't like they couldn't use something else because other games had normal controls
>>712675734>Pretending that Clare is bad with kidsOne way to fix this would be to reveal that Clare had a Daughter off screen between games, which she dumped on Jill from a young age. That and her "Parenting style" resembles more a supportive big sister rather than a actual mother, mostly cause thr closest thing she had to a Father was her older brother.
>>712719267no i am not retard.
>>712719261A remake doesn't stop the og from existing or being enjoyed.
>>712719176She looks like an attractive adult which is what normal adult males like but obviously not what you like, pedo freak.
>>712719373It pretty much does in the case of Silent Hill 2 for any newcomers.
To play the original Silent Hill 2, you have to have access to or be able to do one of the following
>A PlayStation 2 with a copy of the game (which now for upwards of $150)>An Xbox with a copy of the game (which is edging towards $100)>A PC with the know how to emulate and find dumped isos or where to find abandonware and how to patch it (and where to even get the patch)And Konami deliberately rejected the idea of remastering the original 4 Silent Hill games with involvement from staff that worked on them, you can learn about that in the Short Message BTS materials.
So yes, this remake is in fact stopping the original from existing. In fact, your sentiment earlier completely contradicts the idea you're trying to get across here because you are a gigantic pussy.
Earlier, you stated:
>It buries it for good reason.
a better way to do Nemesis would be if you could actually "kill" him by either incapacitating him knocking him unconscious for 15-20 minutes
or forcing him to evolve into boss stages. Besides that he should always be pursuing the player.
>>712719587you are just retarded, im sorry. Your thoughts are schizo. No, SH2 doesnt stop anyone from playing the og.
Konami already did that with the HD collection.
>>712719875>Your thoughts are schizo.You're Indian.
Anyways, I explained in details the issues with this and that Konami itself blocked remasters of the games from happening. The intent has been and always will be to erase the originals.
>>712719957I rest my case, just another mentally ill poltard with no clue what hes discussing trying to nostalgia fag.
>>712719990>poltard>hes>discussing trying>nostalgia fag
>>712719957You are a tard, Konami lost the source code to 2.
>>712720071>The SH2 remake prevents people playing the og>the og source code was lost decades ago
>>712720108>>712720152Not having the source code doesn't mean shit, most remasters are done without access to the source code. The Kingdom Hearts remasters are among the best remasters from the PS2 era and they were all done without any source code on hand.
You people are gullible retards.
>>712656784 (OP)Darkside Chronicles was the best she looked and it was all downhill after that.
>>712720223Please stfu you are a simpleton.
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/Silent-Hill-HD-Collection/C1NL49GLS561
I'm in the Beneviento house and it's too scary bros. I got up from the Old Well after getting the breaker key and now everything is completely dark.
>>712720301I'll address both things you potentially could be saying here.
>Look dude, you can play SH2 right now!With a myriad of issues so bad that several members of staff came out and said the remasters were a disgrace, and even beyond that they are popularly considered to be the worst remastering work ever done for a video game.
You could also be saying-
>This is proof you can't do a remaster without the source code!Which I already disproved. Most remasters are done without access to the source code, in fact. Hell, the best versions of Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time were built by hobbyists without any access to the original source code.
>>712719176that's a good thing
I always wanted to fuck toby if he were girl
>>712670319nigga just mashed random words together and made an ""iceberg""
>>712685226Somehow she doesn't look Chinese enough.
>>712720450Just stop, you lost the argument. You CAN actually play it and my point wasnt the loss of source code means you cant do a remaster.
Its that the SH2 HD collection is bad because IT WAS MISSING THE SOURCE CODE.
you autistic retard
>>712720462They really should bring this nigga back with some crazy melee combat moves.
I know RE9 is most likely going to have Leon at this point, but I really want to see this crazy bastard playable in another game.
>>712720564>Its that the SH2 HD collection is bad because IT WAS MISSING THE SOURCE CODE.Its bad because it was made by a group of incompetents who were proven to not actually know what they were doing and dodged out of work on the game, per the HDC's producer.
Again, Kingdom Hearts- no source code but still a mostly faithful version of the games.
Super Mario 64 PC, done entirely by fans with no source code whatsoever, and it's 1:1 with the original.
No source code is no excuse.
reminder that 8 strongly implied the origin of everything in the series was an evil lovecraftian space alien god
>meteor crashs into romania
>ancient civilisation built around it
>long time later, cult forms in the village
>Miranda makes primitive BOWs mixing worms and mold
>Inspires Spencer to create Umbrella and do the same thing with viruses
>>712720826how is that an evil lovecraftian space alien god
>>712719323Tank controls were always a conscious choice.
Not liking them is fine but they're chosen because they're limiting and what those limits do.
>>712718886>picit's kind of impressive how all of those polaks completely missed the point of every single scene in the game
>>712720674>Again, Kingdom Hearts- no source code but still a mostly faithful version of the games.They never said they didn't have the source code. They said they didn't have the art masters and had to recreate them.
A lot of these remasters and ports are claimed by retards on the internet to have been created without the source code. That's almost never true. Silent Hill, for example, wasn't missing the source code. They just didn't have the release version of the source code.
Not having the source code is a big fucking hurdle to cross. Mario64 is a relatively very simple game. Not having source code is still a hurdle but nowhere near as a big a hurdle as some other games.
>>712721434Nah you dont understand shit. The old games you worship are not perfect, tank controls was a mistake
>>712721597>tank controls was a mistakewhat is wrong with tank controls exactly? i've never had any problem with them in any game i've played
>>712721597I'd put money on you being unable to tell direction on a fixed map that doesn't rotate for you and you dislike reading any book with third person perspective.
>>712721589>Not having the source code is a big fucking hurdle to cross.>Nomura: โKingdom Hearts 1 was created a long, long time ago, so actually the original data was lost. So, we had to research and we had to dig out from the actual games available, and recreate everything for HD. We had to recreate graphics, and it was actually not that easy.โStill isn't an excuse by the way as SH2-4 all had fully functional PC versions to work on and then base a remastered port on. SH1 is the actual biggest hurdle and it's highly likely most assets are still available from the people who worked on the game, considering Sato won an award for his FMVs and Toyama has always been immensely proud of his work.
>>712693574>Why the FUCK don't we have a standalone Mercenariesthere wasn't one for the 3ds? not that anyone with half a brain plays on tiny screens
>>712698358>giving ammo to shevanah, just stop giving ammo to the worthless bitch
>>712717509>genuine fans wonno such thing
if you like the demakes you were never a fan
>>712721748I'll put it this way, back then game developers were still figuring out the best way to make games.
Commercial 3d games were still in their infancy and they simply copied actual tank games.
Its the same reason for some inexplicable reason some boomer assholes kept insisting every fps game have aircraft controls as an option.
>>712721760I'd bet money on you being a retard.
>>712721748They are shit, anyone that likes them is being a moron.
Its fine to like "old game" but dont pretend the shit parts are good
>>712687497Capcom realised they can't set a game in a crater and nukes aren't asteroids.
>started RE1 ages ago
>got soft filtered so put the game down expecting to come back in a week or so
>it's been 18 months
>completely lost momentum
>refuse to buy another game in the series until I finish 1
>still have RE0 still in my library also
fuck
>>712721780In your quote he only says they had to recreate the graphics. That's quite a specific thing to say and excludes source code.
For years it was "fact" that Bluepoint Games did all their remasters without ever using the source code. Someone actually asked them about it once and they said it's complete horseshit and they did use the original source code and without access to that code porting the games would be infeasible.
>>712722231yes... thats because lots of these projects get hold of a copy and reverse engineer it.
>>712722226>>refuse to buy another game in the series until I finish 1thats how it should be
>>7127222261. play on easy
2. RE0 will be even worse
>>712722073>Commercial 3d games were still in their infancy and they simply copied actual tank games.Keep telling yourself that zoom zoom. That period had been long over by this point. There were concole release games that used camera relative controls.
>>712722298Faggot im 40. You have no clue what you are talking about, you are the zoomer, you are also probably a retarded slav.
>>712722231>"the original data was lost">"recreate everything for HD." He says graphics as a further example, ESL.
And Bluepoint DOESN'T use the source code. They reverse engineer the games to build a PC version they then work on.
>>712722345>Its the same reason for some inexplicable reason some boomer assholes kept insisting every fps game have aircraft controls as an option. >40lol, lmao even
3/10 for effort zoom zoom
>>712722226just play the better remakes
>>712722403>just play the demakeskill yourself
people that worship old games like they weee designed perfectly intentionally as an aesthetic and every bad bit about them is le soul.
Have something severely wrong with their brains, its got to be autism
>>712722403>better>cut content instead of extending the og game
>>712722450remakes won autist. You kill yourself
>>712722503It'll be okay grug, you won't be a midwit retard forever. Maybe.
>>712722272No, they don't.
Reverse engineering what is probably hundreds of thousands of lines of compiled code is not technically feasible.
>>712722348>And Bluepoint DOESN'T use the source code.>Digital Foundry talks tech - and more - with Bluepoint Games.>One of the things I do have to say is that when you look at the original engine source code, there's obviously areas where Japanese developers have a little bit of a different mind set, different practises than we exercise here in the States...They get the source code, you retard.
>>712722503>people that worship companies got something severly wrong with their brainsfifty
>>712722578>midwiti rest my case again, its a fucking alt right poltard, pushing his toxic shit on 4chan
>>712722606>says the retard worshipping a commercial product made by a companyfuck off back to pol
>>712693574An expansion on RE6 Mercs or an expansion on Mercs 3D would have been so good.
>>712722626I was being kind, you don't even qualify for the height of the bell curve.
>alt-right>poltardJumping at shadows?
Need to find ANYTHING to dismiss something instead of being the least bit critical?
There is no hope for you.
>>712722172but WHY are they shit?
>>712656784 (OP)>and make her slightly uglier in Revelations 2Rev 2 is supposed to take place like 20 years after RE2. she's supposed to be old
>>712722226Just play 456 you worthless nigger
>>712722284I might consider easy at this point
>>712722403I've played 4-6, REmake 2/3, Rev1, I usually rarely play out of release order so I've been trying to fix that. Was considering playing OG2/3 on my vita before I got stuck.
>>712722589>original engine source code>engine
>>712722226>>712657690I was soft bricked for decades, the last 2 weeks I finished it, both characters.
Now I play RE2OG and it's great, easier too because you learn the tricks with 1.
>make a save where you are in a good place with health and plants>go out and get crazy, go here, there, try to push forward even with mistakes to learn the way>reload the save>do the route again but now knowing how to>repeatDon't reload because of health or ammo immediately. The game gives you stuff in the next corner.
The bosses are not very difficult, the map and planning the routes is more difficult.
>>712722975>One thing also to keep in mind is that when we say we're running the two engines side-by-side, each engine kind of has their own area of responsibility, so whereas the original game's engine is really just running all the game logic, it doesn't have to deal with any rendering, any sound stuff, any file loading... all that stuff is done in our engine, so each engine essentially has their own area of responsibility and so you're not really doing a lot of the same work twice.When they say "engine" they are talking about the game. Bluepoint basically take the original game's source code and move hardware specific shit into their own wrapper engine and leave the game logic as it was.
>>712723395>all of this to effectively agree with meSH2-4 all have
>v0.9 or higher source code>fully functional PC versions>art assets on file with guys like Sato and Ito There is nothing stopping remasters from happening aside from Konami. Ito and other staff of the original games had approached Konami with the idea of remastering the first four games. Konami denied them.
>>712717301>you just canโt stand that someone improved on something youโve built your identity aroundIf he wasn't dead before that one, he sure is now kek
What a slap
>>712724940he got raped and murdered in the next reply
>>712718391You have one good point about some choices being artistic deliberated, but everything else falls apart when you realize that corpo greed was a thing back in the day, too. Those people were screamed, chastised and called fools for failing to deliver on very thin budgets and then called visionaries when the game miraculous did well. I understand the rosy retrospection because I'm still deeply under the spell of some of those games, but don't be misguided by it.
>>712693574>mercenaries game that includes the entire main cast of heroes and villains with outfits and levels from different era of the franchise>playing as Jill on the RE0 train>playing as RE2 Claire in the RE8 village>playing as THE BIG CHEESE in RPD>playing as Lady D in the Spencer MansionI'm fucking dreaming
>>7127253831/10 bait post i say. at least you tried. your entire post falls apart when you realize that devs made original things based on their own original ideas for the sake of making them even despite small budgets and had an actual creative freedom unlike modern devs that simply copy what's popular, remake something already made by someone else, and as a result make things because they simply want to buy a new car or a pool
>>712718886>The other had you flailing around like a drunk puppet in a fog machine. You glorify technical failure and pretend itโs vision. That was a thing back then, though. Remember this was before RE4's debut. There's no such thing as technical failure through hindsight. Whoever got that right, like Capcom did in 2005, simply went to be lauded as a game changer. You are basically saying "why didn't they turn into legends by completely innovating a mechanic in the industry?". They did their best with what the constraints they had, be it time, scope or budget and should be judge on these merits.
>>712725383anon, corpo greed has existed since they've existed but that's not what he's talking about
there's different corporate culture across all corporations and some allow more creative freedom than others - that anon is talking about a product which was the result of a certain level of creative freedom within a corporation which isn't really allowed anymore
combine that with technological constraints and you will get a masterpiece that can only be replicated afterwards but never bested
>>712660589>>712661459>>712713870Heh, now I understand Jill Claire ship. It's because they both got benched by Capcom
>>712727240>>712727380>look like dudesGee, i wonder who drew these...
>>712727597It kind of looks like Jill
>>712727597>the same eye color so its the same person!you crapcum drones are fucking retards
>>712657646Based. Revelations 2 is heavily underrated.
>>712669009Let's be honest Resident Evil story never made sense. It's like James Bond or Marvel.
>>712668523She looks cool in Revelations though
>>712722226If you're talking about REmake all you have to do is learn how to bait zombies. Once you're comfortable with that you don't even need to have weapons for the majority of the game because you're just juking everything.
If you're playing with modern controls it's literally brainless because the amount of movement you have trivializes any encounter compared to tank controls.
Here, I loaded it up to give an example of how easy it is even with tank controls.
>first time playing RE2OG
>just found Ada
>she sounds like a bitch
>game is cinema
>about to go back to get the final chess piece
>>712714791> REMAKE REMAKE REMAKE REMAKE REMAKE PLEASE GIVE ME A REMAKE REMAKE REMAKE, JUST REMAKE EVERYTHINGSlice your wrists
>>712722226That's me with Village right now.
>>712728712Poor anon is about to find out how much Ada has been retconned.
>>712717301>Letโs be real - the only โartโ back then was in the CGI cutscenes, everything else looked like budget-grade placeholder assetsYou're an inbred retard and I will piss on your grave
I am pretty sure I also fucked up my Claire game.
I read in a review or something that if I leave stuff as Leon, Claire will find them. But I have hoarded the fuck out of my box with plants already..
>>712728712
>>712714791the first game already got a remake and its the only good one
>>712727240>>712727380>>712727463I like this claire but butchjilldesign reminds me of Arcane s2 that fucking retarded trannyfotmbullshit
god Arcane generals were one of the most terrifying demonic realm I've ever seen
>>712728525It made enough sense up to RE3, I'd argue
>RE1: muh combat data in a forest mansion>RE2: virus is leaked in the city, teasing of future viruses and taking down Umbrella>RE3: same virus same city, you see another POV and interact with Umbrella's task forceIt's Code Veronia, 0 and 4 that fucked it up. The former for going full animu in its story with Marcus and turning Rebecca into someone she clearly was not in RE1, CV for introducing a new side plot that goes nowhere with the Ashfords, and RE4 for stating Umbrella's downfall happened offscreen due to stocks. With Wesker and Spencer being killed off in 5, RE had nowhere to go because it hadn't built up any more plot hooks (or it had abandoned what few things you could count as leads, with RE9 now picking up after Outbreak of all things).
>>712728712>Leon A Claire BOh no no no no no no no...
>>712729650Just now even Leon complained, he asked me to save the SMG for her. This first play through is pretty much cooked..
>>712729209It's not herbs or anything. It's only a handful of things.
Which shutter?
Extra inventory slots/SMG?
Moth GUEST code and the room it unlocks?
>>712730397I wired the bottom one and I got the extra slots. It's fucked, I can feel it. Mikami likes to fuck us this way for being hasty.
>>712728695>that movement>tank controls
>>712730597No, it's fine.
That corridor just gets flooded with zombies when it shorts and it's easy enough to clear out/through.
It's good you left the SMG, you can only get more ammo for it in B scenario.
>>712730815And I am doing great with slots. No reason to have 10 with Leon at all... Maybe I will reload..
>>712730331My wife and daughter.
Why would they release RE9 before an Outbreak Remaster? How hard can it be to just do a basic port of a PS2 game to Steam and PS5?
>hire woman
>she starts crying and saying the character is bad
>change it to stop tears
>company fails
Again?
>>712714047>still no RE x DMC game where you can play as both Clare and LadyAll well, at least we have mods
>>712731331Leon probably needs them more than Claire and you generally have less shit to carry at once in the B.
>>712715078While I do think Spencer survived via the plot armor virus and will show up in re10, He's also english and that voice in the trailer is clearly american.
I can't stop playing this game
>>712716149How would the RE fanbase react to Spencer being a Demon from hell?
>>712731586Imagine the foursome
>>712731718>re7&8 already completely jumped the shark, so who careswould be my reaction
>>712656784 (OP)Alyson Court's a national treasure
Well, a damn fishdick boss attacked me in the septic sewers.
>>712728712
>>712732012Who's the fourth girl?
>>712732210She is and I love her.
>>712732034Pretty sure the shark jumping moment was in 6 or even code veronica depending how much or a purist you are.
>>712656784 (OP)Whats the best way to play Code Veronica on PC?
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>>712733239no 6 is a fair take as well, what a fucking shit game i'll never get over it
>>712714791what a retard ahahahah
>>712733460Emulate DC, don't play CVX
I'm at the Moreau fight. The Beneviento and getting to Moreau has been blazing fast. I wish there was a bit more to those two. I also feel like Beneviento will be a huge drag on a replay.
>>712733460Just Dolphin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGargv8ikEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGargv8ikEU
>>712735504>I also feel like Beneviento will be a huge drag on a replay.It is. I'm holding off on resuming on my playthrough because of her section. It was literally made for streamers to go AAAAAAAAAAAAAH, thus giving the game some notoriety. It's fucking stupid. I hate it, I hate everything about it and then they put that fucking hack in charge of RE9. I hope the game goes down as the shittiest entry ever.
>>712735975>I hope the game goes down as the shittiest entry ever.Retard
S.T.A.R.S fits are still unmatched
Resident evil 1.5 fucking when
When did you realise Resident Evil has always been a terrible franchise?
>>712736690Never. It was canned.
It makes no sense why Capcom ignore Jill so much when she is so popular and beloved by the fanbase. She is probably the 3rd most popular character from the entire franchise after Leon and Wesker.
>>712737032I love her and she's objectively best girl but they don't know what to do with her.
>>712656784 (OP)RE4 and RE5 are the best Resident Evil games, period. Pure action with a unique atmosphere you just donโt get anymore. I tried all the demakes, and theyโre not even close. Just some weak shit running on the RE7 engine and RE7 itself is a fucking YouTuber ride with โhide and seekโ gameplay for babies.
Fuck that garbage. I wanna grab a shotgun as a badass like Leon or Chris and blow a mexican or niggers skull into the sun. Not crawl around like a bitch hoping Mr. Tall Guy doesnโt see me.
I even tried the old-school stuff like the remaster of RE1 - filtered hard. All that backtracking and clunky shit? No thanks.
God, I miss games like RE4 and RE5 so fucking much. Just pure kino.
>>712736276Pretty cool guy
>>712656784 (OP)Kino Claire/RE thread OP.
I still think the best part of RE4 is leon not calling luis by his actual name
>>712656784 (OP)>This would solve all of capcoms problems
>>712698281Where should an individual source such mods? Weight gaming?
>>712656784 (OP)I'm playing CV for the first time (just entered through the "hawk" symbol door) and there's barely any ammo (I've picked up 5-6 ammo packs so far) and most of the zombies and dogs take 5-7 bullets.
But then I've used the knife.
Holy shit, I can swear this thing is is made of Hunter/Licker claws.
Can she top Ethan Winters? What are your overall expectations for Grace?
>>712741018she can top me desu
Hope they haven't dropped the The Connections plot stuff
>>712730597i thought mikami wasn't that involved in the specific of 2
>>712656784 (OP)>>make her a complete goblina uggo and butcher her character in RE2makeyou gay
>>712718391Nothing about the silent hill series is โone of a kindโ - thatโs like saying the original Alan Wake has artistic merit.
And this is coming from an enormous silent hill fan.
Know what youโre speaking on before you talk shit.
I'm just finishing off 8 now. 7 and 8 are retarded on all levels. I thought 8 was going to be decent when playing the castle section, but the game is gimmicky and dumb after that. The first person combat is also terrible and Mother Miranda on hardcore is a massive bulletsponge. I now have no hopes for 9. Hopefully the REmake team can keep making games with good gameplay and stories less retarded than "If Christ spent 5 minutes talking to Ethan or if Ethan partnered with Heisenberg, all of this could have been avoided.
Wanted to do a RE4 Remake run with only weapons you can find naturally in the game (no buy) but realized the first sniper is super late into the game, how would not have one until chapter 11 impact the fun you think?
>>712742268With Alyssa's passing in 9, I believe it might resurface.
>>712743864>dosyn't have any argument for his retarded take>has to resort to calling himself ENORMOUS SILENT HILL FAN on an anonymous internet forum where everyone is a nameless nobodyholy kek. you are beyond pathetic
>>712680548The prerendered backgrounds are what make REmake and RE0 still look great, retard.
>>712744052Do it. You'll be dumping most of your upgrades into the silver ghost anyway and that with the laser sight is highly effective against bosses for what it is.
>>712724940Fucking Redditor
Why no Outbreak remaster?
>>712745662Constant stress can physically age a person dramatically.
>>712745851It won't work with 3-4 people running around guns blazing with TPS camera. And Capcom hates fixed camera.
I'm playing the Rose DLC now. Why is Rose, the super bioweapon trained by Chris, afraid of basic zombies? And why is she acting surprised that he has powers? Why are 7 and 8 so fucking stupid and bad?
>>712730179>>712730331Claire and Jill are great examples of how to make a strong female character right, without sacrificing their feminine qualities. Something they completely forgot about in RE3 Remake, funnily enough
>>712729602RE2 was somewhat willingly able to suspend belief. RE3 went full retard when you find out the entire city had puzzles designed by Umbrella and it just stopped making any sense.
>>712718957you're just bad at the game, its so cool in 3 that whichever half of the area you choose to explore results in different cutscenes and encounters, something rare in this series
>>712745474Yeah i think I'll just do it anyway, just seems like a fun run
>silver ghostI love that gun so much, don't think I've ever used another one outside of my gun only run
>>712714719Wesker's report explained it and was part of Code Veronica.
https://youtu.be/NnfTRxRc2D8?si=-1Ew4JJD8ayFxzYm
>>712748228strong female is a goalpost set up for faggots and retards that anons have unironically adopted as one of their own
women dont need to be "strong". and it's not a metric/goalpost that we need to strive for
>>712748487>mfw I'm not American and don't give a shit about your shitty culture wars
Is this girl not a fucking bioweapon? Someone explain this to me.
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>>712740232>>Wesker challenges you.
>>712749801Wesker may be the apex of humanity genetically, but he loses to anyone with a drop of demon blood, Let alone a son of sparda.
>>712750470Wesker is Vergil in blue, and we know Leon is Dante's father.
Wesker/Vergil will go all out for Claire, and even the scoreboard.
>>712750784>and we know Leon is Dante's fatherLeon may be proto dante on a meta level, But how could Leon be Dante's dad when i'm pretty sure Dante might actualy be closes to Chris's age.
Plus the Redfields hate the Weskers on a genetic level.
>>712751027Leon is Dante father, far as the orginal concept for RE4. Well, Claire has her own mind, besides Chris.
>>712751147>Leon is Dante father, far as the original concept for RE4Back in the RE4 days, Dante or should I say Tonys father was Oswald Spencer, who was quite different from his final version. Datne and Leon aren't related unless Leon turns out to be that Dante clone created by Mundus.
>>712751367No, what I meant in the orginal RE4, it was assumed that Leon would be infected and die. But they scrapped it and still used that infected superhuman Leon and made Dante. Even in the orginal DMC, Dante bears a resemblance to Leon.