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I actually really like this game.
>>712761210 (OP)we need more content asap
Then post actual gameplay
The alpha was a lot of fun but I worry they wont fix any of the issues and instead only work on cramming as much mtx in as possible...
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/v/eddit shills really are just braindead 'jeets
>>712761397but this is 100% what will happen
>>712761397$200 costume gacha is coming just like the first game
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>>712761324>le post game play posti'm not downloading davinci resolve and a bunch of video editing tools just to post a webm and have retards like you say "LOOKS LIKE SHIT!"
>>712761309i'm starting to really like delia's playstyle and the combos are starting to flow. i wonder what her full skill tree is going to look like
>>712761210 (OP)My new girlfriend looks like this, but her tits are tiny. I often imagine dressing her up like this.
>>712761210 (OP)>fun gameplay ruined by gook monetization>let's do the same shit for the sequelgod i hate this shit, why can't they just make costume unlocks like stellar blade.
>>712761923How big is her cock
>>712761973I thought this one was p2p though? Which SHOULD make it less mtx heavy
>>712761210 (OP)show panty and I will think about it
>>712761210 (OP)damn Nexon finally released a vindictus remake? so is it like an open world mmo like everyone wanted from the original?
When is the full release?
>>712761898>LOOKS LIKE SHITIt does yeah
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>>712762064i've only seen screenshots of the shop but there's already tons of little things you can buy for ingame currency
>>712762303maybe this year? who knows, they haven't said anything about a release date
>>712761898>i wonder what her full skill tree is going to look likeThat's pretty much it. From her kit in the original the only things that's missing are making her 3rd active skill spammable, her Zenith/Rose Crush buff that gives defense, stamina and attack speed, and her alternate smash attacks. In the original every smash combo she had has an alternate attack done by delaying pressing right click for a half second or so. In Defying Fate those are her smashes by default, and I just don't see them bringing back her default smash attacks.
>>712762789Really? Some of her skills don't combo into anything right now so it'd be weird if they stay like that...
Also holy shit this guy is annoying to fight (but cool)
Does the original game have aggro indicators? Because holy fuck it's annoying as shit not knowing when to actually block or dodge
>>712761898>i'm not downloading davinci resolve and a bunch of video editing toolsAre wincels really too computer illiterate to use ffmpeg?
>>712763476Not really.
With the exception of Fiona having a dedicated taunt skill (which was added WAAAAAAAAAY later on), the original didn't really do the whole "tank dps healer" trinity. All other means of aggro control involved manipulating enemy AI, like somehow spamming sit on Titan would cause him to aggro on the person doing it, or running around in one of the corners of Lakoria's map would cause her tail attack to focus on that character for all but the last hit.
>when the guy with aggro just keeps dodging in a circle so no one can hit the boss
i do not enjoy mutliplayer in this desu
How do i play delia? Get full bar and charge strong? Or use it like lanns dodge
>>712765240combo
use the thurst
block and counter
that's it
>>712764587I remember 1 asshat Kai who would do that on purpose on Neamhain just to pad up his damage numbers.
>>712765337Whats the point of charge strong???
>>712763584keep your tranny shit to /lgbt/ no one wants to hear about male pregnancy
>>712765548you can chain it with combos
>>712761210 (OP)So this game is basically a Korean fantasy take on The First Descendant? I mean Vindictus wasn't really a 'open world' MMO to begin with, so I guess it kinda makes sense to use with Warframe/TFD/Destiny mode.
>>712765240You use your bar for your tab thrust, ideally you use it as your iframe to avoid getting hit and land in a better position to start winding up your next finisher.
>>712765628it's a coop souls with korean white women that you can dress up like skanks and whores
Is the demo still up? How many more days?
>>712765628It mostly follows the same from the first game, but it does share a bit with TFD before they added Freyna/Ines/Serena/A-TAMS.
>>712765860just under 32hrs i think
>>712765974ah shit, is there another one coming? not sure if i'll finad the time to play tomorrow
>>712766129we don't have any times for another, I'd imagine since this is called an alpha we'll get a beta at some point as well but you never know
>>712765617explain? does the thrust have invul? it feels like it
>>712761210 (OP)>$22 per skinyeah no
>>712761210 (OP)Is this game actually fun or is it coomer shit
>>712766373yes, it's not the best or anything but it's got a fun base so far and the coom is nice.
>>712765628It will be a liveservice Monster Hunter. Basically a boss killing game.
>>712766373theres a demo why dont you go download it and form your own opinion zoomie
>>712761210 (OP)I also like the game but it runs like SHIT on my computer. I need a new GPU anyway but god damn.
>>712766987if it makes you feel any better it kind of runs like shit on a 5090 too
>>712766920Why don't you have the balls to give your own?
delia is fuckig garbage im going back to fiona
>>712761210 (OP)Meh. Looks like a button mashing arcade game to me. Pass.
>>712767405if you button mash with delia you'll just die
>>712767179why so you can just call me a "shill" if i say anything positive about the game
>>712761923>My gf looks like this>can't see face because - veil>but her tits are tinySoo.. your GF looks nothing like OP pic. Got it.
>>712767514No, that's why I asked for opinions
>>712766373That isn't even a fucking binary question retard.
A game can both be fun and pandering by using sex sells.
So the answer to your quesiton of "is it fun or is it coomer shit", the answer is yes.
>>712763097>male and hazor both have two revives leftfucking pros.
I havent found a blood lord party in 3 days.
and yes, that anon is right, most of the kit for these characters is available in DF right now, though some of the "chain links" are missing, which they will hopefully add in.
If It makes you feel better, the original was the same way, you had your kit pretty early and it wasnt until years later they added to them, they focused alot more on interesting bosses in the first season (which this is going to be replacing), as opposed to spamming characters or expanding movesets.
>>712767778>TFDCoomer shit, not fun
>GF2Coomer shit, not fun
>ZZZCoomer shit, not fun
>Nier AutomataCoomer shit, not fun
>Stellar BladeCoomer shit, not fun
It is.
>>712766987>>712767170if it makes you feel stupid it runs 60fps on my rtx 570
https://streamable.com/aekpot
hey idiots here's some gameplay
no i'm not a professional esports action gamer
yes i died at the start
and yes i'm still having fun
>noo why is there music that i don't like playing in the background
because eat a dick
>>712767405Arcade games never looked like this, zoomzoom.
>>712763097>Some of her skills don't combo into anything right now so it'd be weird if they stay like thatThat isn't any different from the original with ion thrust only connecting to two smashes and one active ability. I don't even remember if you can ion thrust from her counter back then because the counter attack back then is the 3rd skill in Defying Fate.
>>712768157is that really the music you were listening to while playing the game?
>>712767969Reads more like you have impossible standards for fun than the question being binary.
>>712768157>No loss rape animation0/10 'game'
>>712768157so is this just a remake of old vindictus?
i remember that shit from like 15 years ago
>>712768157Is that thing stealing animations from MH?
>>712768721couldn't tell you, i never played the original. the combat is extremely weighty though so you have to commit to attacks...like dark souls
>>712766373The VDF alpha is fun but disappointing if you played the previous game. If someone were to ask me if they should download the game I would say "no unless you really like soulslikes and/or titties." We'll have to see how they will respond to the feedback with changes in the beta to know where this game is going.
>>712768157you people listen to the weirdest shit
>>712768157>https://streamable.com/aekpot>aekpotfucking hell the link's randomly generated but somehow has the name of one of my guildmates in vindictus.
WHAT DOES THIS MEME?
>>712761210 (OP) I hope the equipment system ends up similar to the og Vindictus. It was a lot more interesting to farm for all pieces/weapons of a set and upgrade it all.
>>712768721Yes, its 1 to 1, the only thing new are checkpoints and target lock.
Fucking retarded people keep calling it a souls clone when its literally s1 vindictus, which released a year before dark souls.
>>712769060I played the first game for the first almost 10 years of the game/or however long they took to release the first Neamhain redeemers and I really like this alpha.
>>712769198I like this system, what I want to return are titles and the side missions, like getting +1 crit for killing tyrant with a spear in his right eye.
>>712769305Then use lann, this game plays like the original if you have a 0 attack speed.
>>712769216>its 1 to 1Let's not be disingenuous here. The game added those things, but it's decidedly less than a 1:1
>no slashing high>no berserker spirit>no crit fishing for furies>no clashing>no heavy stander>no sub weapons>no mob grappling at any time, have to stagger them to do cuhrazy execution>no using objects as makeshift weapons
>>712769558Brother, its an alpha test. The secondaries are in the game already being used as traversal utility, clash was already shown in a trailer, and the director is oh dong-seok, the director of the original, he said their goal with DF was to recreate the original vindictus which is now long gone because of the post s1 changes.
Besides, if it were to release without a crit stats, or wrestling and objects (those last two are the least likely to return because they only existed to begin with as a result of the engine and nobody used them after the novelty left), its still 1:0.99, which is close enough.
Its certainly not a fucking souls clone.
>canโt make your character fat if you want
Slop
>>712769558we get it, you're gay.
>download demo
>Choose character
>Oh okay, lets see the customization of each character
>Game now stuck on that character, can't delete, can't change character
Well shit. Guess I ain't playing this demo.
>>712770303you can easily delete your char in the settings...
>>712770303you unlock the others after a few missions iirc
>>712770356Huh? Where?
>>712770363I don't want to do that.
>>712770456its under account
>>712769558A lot of good points, but I will never understand defending a mechanic that purely relies on RNG or needing to go out of your way to build for crit just for it to be even half reliable, and then being stuck with 1 smash to spam for the entire 10 minute raid (DC, jump smash, LR)
>>712770565Thanks, I'll check it out. Later because I already uninstalled it.
>>712770005>Brother, its an alpha test.Brother, it's the second of who knows how many more alpha tests. Feedback about the discrepancies from the original was already given. Karok's Clash has been relegated to a blue attack counter that literally everyone else has, just with an added button mash mode (see https://youtu.be/PbW7pVmHlKw?t=166). That it's there in that manner means it may as well not be clash at all because everyone else has it without the extra shit.
>Besides, if it were to release without a crit statsBut that's the thing, it DOES have crit stats in the form of the "fatal attacks" or whatever the term in the tool tips was for when your hits do EPIC LONG RED GASH EFFECTS, yet even with that Lann still doesn't gliding fury off of those.
>Its certainly not a fucking souls clone.Oh it most definitely isn't, and anyone who says otherwise is fucking retarded.
I'm just against the idea that the game is somehow a 1:1 adaptation of the original.
>>712761210 (OP)its alright but it feels very rough
can see why its still in alpha
>>712768157looks slow, not fast paced spin2win at all like the original
another soulless coomer cash grab, what a surprise from nexon
>>712761210 (OP)after playing the original for a week my conclusion is this one is a sovlless cash grab that feels worse to play and also runs worse
>>712769345Really? Some things really let me down
>things missing from character skill kits, like Karok's clash, or getting worse like Lann's crit glide being changed to only being available after certain skills>skills don't require SP except for Delia's thrust, they're all the exact same use case, just use them on cooldown because they also make the boss flinch unless it's White Tyrant/Blood Lord>no secondary weapons>checkpoints invalidate all of the gameplay between bosses>no part breakoff>no bonus objectives like kicking a boss to death>no giant wisp boss in the perilous ruins, just gnolls>no rematch with gnoll chieftain where he goes apeshit, he mcfucking dies after the first round>no giant worm boss in hoarfrost hollow, just kobolds (there's that one yeti at least)>missing translations of more unique missions like the perilous ruins mission where you gotta kill 100 constantly spawning gnolls in an arena and then the boss spawns in right afterwards, or the kobold boss that you have to defeat in a short amount of time or he bolts, or the trio of kobold bosses with slingshots>weapons and armor are completely cosmeticI understand that at least some of these are because it's an alpha and will probably (hopefully) be brought back for the beta
>>712770574Because with Lann it's hardly RNG. Everyone else in full endgame gear will always have less crit than Lann, and he can crit off of pretty much everything. Hell, he can even crit off of his windmill recovery attack, which is him fucking breakdancing.
Why does fsr at the highest performance setting not improve my fps by even 1 frame?
>>712770906Oh yeah and I forgot
>no armor break
>>712770958cpu bottleneck
>>712770721we get it, you're gay
As someone who couldn't play the game as their server was dead, I am looking forward to the single player.
Hope the nickle and diming isn't too bad. Is the game really perpetually online though? Any response from devs after backlash?
>>712770906The one I miss the most are break offs. Grouping with someone who can break Titan or chain Thor's tongue is just different. It has a lot of missing stuff but the core gameplay is the game I stuck around with for years.
>>712770948Late s1-s2, you had to choose between crit or being kicked off boats for being def capped by raids.
I get it, it's a sense of progression most games just don't have anymore but the point still stands, it becomes a mechanic that's reserved just for endgame geared Lanns and still relegated to primarily spamming the one smash that has the most number of hits at the time.
>>712770958Have you tried not being gay?
>>712771518>muh s1 and s2You really need to stop looking at the game through an outmoded lens.
>>712771040my 9800x3d has never gone past 65*C but this alpha keeps pushing it
>>712768839No it was one of the souls games stealing animation
>>712771463>Is the game really perpetually online though?Yes. You cannot disconnect from the server even in single player
I really hope they bring back SP and lower cooldowns
>>712771620Anon, why else would I reference any other season when the director specifically said he wanted to bring back the season 1 style of the game?
>>712771784Because the style he's talking about, as evidenced by the lack of even basic things like subweapons and objects and throwing, is the whole aspect of trekking through a series of levels before getting to the boss.
>>712770653>Brother, it's the second of who knows how many more alpha tests. Feedback about the discrepancies from the original was already given. Karok's Clash has been relegated to a blue attack counter that literally everyone else has, just with an added button mash mode (see https://youtu.be/PbW7pVmHlKw?t=166). [Embed] That it's there in that manner means it may as well not be clash at all because everyone else has it without the extra shit.Explain to me how that is functionally different.
Are you mad about clash NOT being in the game, or that everyone how has a clash?
The clash also means that the rest of your party has more time to dps, while normal blues are instant and only give knockback.
Karoks used to do this in raids, going slow on the button mash to give us more time.
>But that's the thing, it DOES have crit stats in the form of the "fatal attacks" or whatever the term in the tool tips was for when your hits do EPIC LONG RED GASH EFFECTS, yet even with that Lann still doesn't gliding fury off of those.I guess I misunderstood, I thought "fatal attacks" were the "E" prompt after a full stun bar.
Remember that before rise (or maybe ignition, dont remember exactly) stats were on the small end and lann's crits couldnt be minmaxxed, so if the choice ends up between making a big deal about stats so lann can guarantee glides or just keeping them as combo extenders, ill choose the extension every time.
>>712772301It's probably my fault for multireplying and I thought it was regarding Lann's crit caps, but yes I do agree that it's missing a lot of the features and too streamlined. It's kind of similar to how MH Wilds is boring as shit because a lot of the side stuff was gutted in favor of QOL. But in the end I'm still overall positive because it plays like OG and they completely removed attack speed.
>demo is about to be taken offline
Damn I should have been playing this instead of SB
>>712763097I still need to beat the raids. Got them both below 50% HP, but haven't been playing the last couple of days. Not really interested in multiplayer, so it's going to take a while to learn to Solo them with Lann.
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>>712771701....but why?
What is the functional difference between the cooldown and the SP bar?
Dont bother, I'll tell you:
>sp bar requires attacks to build>cool down can be abused with kitingthe problem is that nothing in this game so far has given you a reliable ability to kite, meaning that the difference becomes:
>sp bar requires attacks to build>cool down requires time to build At that point you have to start figuring which requires more effort, and considering that youll be attacking regardless since running isnt an option, you could either express this all with a second attack based gauge for delia and new attack-based gauges for the other characters, or you could express it based on a time-based gauge.
Its such a pointless change to make, but its also pointless to change, and frankly because the team is tiny and using unreal engine, im willing to bet the whole reason they went with CD was because for the pre-alpha it was a ready function and since nobody but you complained they just went with it.
>>712773391Why not just accept the random aggro as an additional challenge? Vindictus tends to be pretty friendly to reflex players, I've literally never learned an attack pattern, I just know that if something looks like its about it hit I'm going to slipdash it.
played the Demo and its pretty meh. its a step down from OG Vindictus with the streamlining and turning into a soulslike. the battle pass is ass as usual and i can already tell the mtx is going to be the same as the first game's
>>712772845>The clash also means that the rest of your party has more time to dps, while normal blues are instant and only give knockback.>Karoks used to do this in raids, going slow on the button mash to give us more time.Anon, that doesn't matter because blue attacks aren't a thing in raids.
It would have been great to establish "hey, Karok is still credit to team" with either white tyrant or blood lord, but they didn't.
>genderlocked classes again
pass
So when the game expected to fully launch? Kind of enjoyed the alpha honestly. I'm assuming Q3-Q4 2025?
>>712773832You're assuming that you wont have co-op in the main game, despite the fact that the follower system is giving you a stand in.
You dont think the final game is going to have completely random pugs for raids, right? That its not going to have a friends list, or option to play with them?
I wish we could go back to a time when alpha and beta testing was something you had to apply and sign an NDA for, people are so fucking impatient now and basically want to be mad at shit.
On the steam forum theres a whole group of people rage posting that the game is going to be be "$60 +$22 per outfit", a total fabrication for the purposes of raising their own blood pressure.
>>712774217its very likely going to similar to warframe where you can either co op or solo, its up to you. Its probably going to be really grindy as well.
>>712774217>"$60 +$22 per outfit", a total fabrication for the purposes of raising their own blood pressure.you're right because its going to be much more expensive with more gacha and battle passes
>>712773665I actually didn't mean to respond to anyone.
>>712774446$22 is actually a really good deal considering what you get. It's a premium skin available at a generous value.
>>712761210 (OP)>tfw pc is too weak to play the gamebros...
post webms for me...
i couldn't make it...
>>712774512>$22 is actually a really good deal considering what you getgood goy
>>712774217I'm not assuming shit. I'm operating on the features they've provided. They have the infrastructure for matchmaking/multiplayer. We all have the same maps. If they intended for the regular sections to be multiplayer they could very easily have added the matchmaking part in the fast travel menu.
I'll definitely be giving it a go when it comes out for real in 2055, assuming I live that long
>>712774475oh sorry, for some reason I thought you were referencing that you were the guy annoyed about aggro.
>>712774446except that none of that shit happened to the original game until han jaeho took over, who was specifically put in charge because he was a salesman, and he is now so reviled by koreans that nexon literally avoided putting his name on "dave the diver" because the last game they did that with tanked based on his jewy reputation.
Nexon is most likely going to release it as a single, $60 release like khazan but the director said releasing episodically is also possible. They will only be doing season 1, episodes 1-10, they have no plans to continue service after that unless it takes off.
>>712774382They wont make it grindy, it should be clear from the alpha they want to focus on the single player. If anything comes up as far as grind I expect it to be for raid boss specific drops, which at this point seem like they will be mostly cosmetic, since this upgrade system seems to care more about the amount of unlocks rather than what you unlock.
It certainly cant be as bad as warframe. I'm still trying to play the story in that shit and right now im stuck grinding to make a faggot voidrig in order to continue despite being years of content behind everyone else.
>>712763584Most lintroons can't use it, either.
>>712774446TFD is also by Nexon but it doesn't have gacha, you just buy outfits from the store. Not even the retarded dye ampoules.
Not saying it's all rainbows and sunshine since this is still Nexon, but I have reason to be cautiously optimistic.
>>712773282>still positive becasue ... they completely removed attack speedbut delia without attack speed just feels gutted
>>712775257warframe grind isn't bad. Honestly most endgame players say the grinds are too fast these days, you run out of stuff to really quickly and there are frequent 6 month content droughts
>>712775460TFD is restoring my hope in Korean devs
>>712761210 (OP)I tried it but the parry timings were completely fucked up so I dropped it because it wasn't very fun
Whoever thought it was a good idea to have you press the parry button like half a second before the boss hits needs to get fired. There are so many other parry games like Sekiro or Lies of P to look at for inspiration, you should know that having the enemy hit you when their weapon is above their head and not when they're about to actually strike you is fucking terrible
>>712776134what the fuck are you even talking about
>>712775859too lazy to get up but same
>>712776237the shitshow of an alpha they just released
>>712761324https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScCPQpLtyxo
>lann has no iframes on his dash attacks
literally unplayable
Does Vindictus do collabs? A Nier collab would be sweet.
>>712761898a bunch of video editing tools known as ffmpeg and your own fucking command line
>>712776696They should do a collab with Horizon Walker so I can have this outfit in game and gift Delia 100 terrariums to cup her milkies
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>>712776696Once upon a time.
TFD is getting a Nier collab in the coming months so maybe Vindictus can also get SE's town bicycle.
>>712767340Parry and R1 opens her kit
Is this appropriate attire for a 2h warrior?
Is Hugo still here? I'm not a gooner so playing dress up does not interest me. If I cannot body slam monsters and smash them with giant rocks, I will not play.
>>712776696A long time ago. They did SAO
>>712777004 and King of Fighters.
There was also the very first April Fools event that was a Half-life "collab" in the sense that it gave all the currently available characters a crowbar weapon.
Fucking stupid,polar bear fuck sliding across the map to hit you with the most bullshit 25 hit combo ever
I'm 100% sure that if you forced eveyone to play Delia the demo would been way more succesful
>>712775783I'm sure anyone at the end thinks that, but the fact that I just want to get to 1999 and play it but I have to instead play through 10 hours of story content with 20 hours of grind between the missions is kinda fucking crazy, especially when the content I'm currently stuck on is half a decade old.
Why would a required component for old content even need to be RNG based to begin with? Who at the endgame is currently regretting that there wasnt enough filler between quests leading up until that point? We all know what they are actually regretting is finally having finished a prime steel path bullshit build with all the craziest nofun mods they could find.
>>712777419Is that Kyo Sylas? I'm almost sure Mai is Arisha, with her down's syndrome retarded face. Iori is Kai and Yuri is Lynn.
>>712776412>>712776134I honestly cant tell if this is a skill issue that your brain is masking for your ego, or If your framerate is so bad that you literally dont see anything between the "raise arm" and "strike"
>>712777419>April Fools event that was a Half-life "collab"you sure? I thought it was celebrating the steam release.
btw those crowbars go for a fortune now, I made bank on all the old collab items.
Going from my Delia in OG Vindictus with 91 attack speed to playing her in DF is fucking painful.
>>712761210 (OP)I really wish it doesn't run like absolute shit. Stellar Blade looks a million times better yet runs about quadruple the FPS for me and has no stutter.
>>712777685Genuinely I still can't figure out what he's saying. Is he mad that they hold their attacks? Because even when they "release" you have like half a second to still hit the parry button before it actually connects. The parry is literally instantaneous otherwise, and the window is generous as fuck. Baffling series of posts.
>>712776696I hope they collab with Stellar Blade. I would love to see EVE continue her journey in the world of Vindictus.
>>712777419Don't forget the metro cop mask
>>712761210 (OP)>I actually really like this gameI need the final build/game on PS5 (Pro)
>>712777850what GPU do you have, it runs pretty well on the 50 series even on the potato 5060, apparently there are were some issues with 40 series gpus so it may be drivers, but if you are on something like a 30 series or an amd gpu you are fuck as you cant disable lumen
>>712777561A majority of the raging about the game is in the difficulty, and she is the second most difficult to play, so that seems like a disaster.
They should have made the difficulty selection tied to a character, so "easy" gets lann and "normal" gets fiona, then once you finish the first part and unlock followers you can swap out, or choose delia
Karok should not have been an option at all, fuck he sucks to play, I forgot how ass pillar is if you dont have any attack speed.
>>712761210 (OP)Bikini doko? Does Korean game ban bikinis since blue archive has no bikini?
>>712765628It's an ultra generic linear hack and slash with a TINY bit of soulslike mechanics but some of the sexiest video game models and best jiggle physics to date
>>712761210 (OP)I played Karok back in base game once upon a time
Does he still snap niggas in half and use a cestus for propah bashin?
>>712775031>good goy>>712774512 is a fag goy. Boot lickin' ass nigga.
>>712767969ZZZ, stellar blade, vindictus has no bikini.
>>712778080really? i thought the demo was quite easy, the only fight that gave me troubles was Chimpuu and that was because i couldnt see shit half the time and my frametime was ass, i cant solo the blood lord though
>>712778227No to either one. Demo is pillar Karok and he doesn't fold trash mobs like laundry. You can't even grab enemies until you fill up a stagger bar regardless if they're a boss or a regular monster.
>>712778121There's a couple bikinis in Stellar Blade so its not a ban from SK. The Vindictus devs are on record about making the outfits less lewd this time around so its self inflicted
>>712778289well that explains it, hopefully for the next demo they fix it
>>712778325Blood Lord is unironically easier than White Tyrant. If you can solo bear, you'll easily get Blood Lord with a handful of tries.
His phase 2 is even easier than his phase 1.
>>712778401Is Blue archive not representing Korean game as whole?
People only ever show the boss fights, is that basically the point of this game? Are the regular enemy AI really that easy and boring? I didn't play vindictus back in the day 'cause I was a poorfag as a teenager and by the time I got my own PC I had already lost the desire to play it.
>>712778401Anon, you really shouldn't interact with the bikini retard.
All that ESL does is shit up korean game threads whining about all of one game not having any bikinis in it.
On a separate note, I wonder if they'll bring back placeable objects in this game.
>>712777841try being a fio main for 15 years and having to use "q" to guard
I tried to swap for "space" but then dodging reds becomes impossible. I have sent in multiple survey complaints telling them to map them both to space like in the first game.
>>712777859He's talking about when games pull that bullshit of the:
>sloooooow windup>sudden whip forwardDark souls 2 had a tonne of that shit, and it fucks you up because you expect the physics to make sense, if he has to heave up the weapon because of its weight, he cant also snap it closed on your head like a mouse trap, and if he can because its not actually heavy, it shouldnt hurt so bad.
The problem is that it doesnt happen.
The pre-alpha had that issue for a few attacks, but this test doesnt. The closest thing is emuloch's weird sexy pose role where he throws the blade down slower than you expect.
I will say that there is something weird going on with hoarfrost hollow. In the prealpha chieftain did that "dinner plate spin" shit where he did not need to commit to his attack direction (but you do) and so you couldnt really position against him, and emuloch was even worse, but in the alpha chief now commits to his attacks, while emuloch still does that shit, along with one of the other fights (dont remember which, maybe the foreman?)
>>712778121you'll get bikinis with inner armors, assuming they add them
So this this going to be a traditional singleplayer/coop game, or just more live service shit that'll close down in a year?
>>712778623The alpha is currently always online and losing connection boots you to the title screen without being able to get back in until your net is back on.
Are there any costumes with thongs instead of panties
>>712778848This game isnโt for ass enjoyers unfortunately
>>712761210 (OP)well I think it sucks ass like all Korean online games
>>712778495that phase 1 is pure rage material
>hee hee, try again fiona>hee hee, try again fionaI just use lann now because he pisses me off too much. In the original vindictus id be shieldbashing and focalpointing the shit out of him, but that isnt really an option here.
>>712778325Did you play on easy or normal? It also depends on character, lann is the easiest to use because his controls arent all fucked up like fiona's and he's fast. Chimpuu emuloch is a little bullshit because of his tracking, but I also struggled against that stupid foreman prick (the "secret" boss in the middle that isnt on the main path)
>>712778543Yes.
Even regular Vindictus at this point is just a boss rush simulator. But it does have amazing combat so it's fine.
>>712778382Oh man that's lame isn't there a way to complain about that? Does he do anything cool with pillar? I never used it
>>712765628>The First DescendantNo, why the fuck would this game be another warframe?
>>712779019>isn't there a way to complain about that?if you want to become a discord tranny, there is that route, they accept input there.
You can also do it in-game (only 24 hours left for that) or wait for a survey online.
If you dont want to do any of that,tell me what you want and I'll send it in, ive been responding to every single survey with demands for heavy stander cancels and a combo dodge/block option for fiona.
>>712778951Yeah. The claw swipe variations make it so hard to properly plan a punish. I just ended up using block counters or jump smashes with Delia instead of PG LLRR.
>vdf when im done with tfd
Korean gaming is back, baby
>>712779259>jump smashesI literally forget about this every time I play.
In NA we only had jumps for about half a year and they were never worth it if you werent lann, so It never registers for me as an option because my brain thinks im just playing vindictus with better graphics.
>>712776696When it was first released there was a collab with Valve because they used the Source engine
>>712779503It's technically not worth it for Delia either since it doesn't build resource.
>>712779503Same. I played a ton back then but I can't imagine you guys who never stopped playing. It's not a great option, but it's still getting damage of an opening to hopefully speed him up to p2 where you can actually do shit.
>>712761898just use webmforretards, retard
>>712775859I just closed the game, but for me its #2, dyed with a silver blade, gold hilt and brown grip.
For lann I use the scimitars, and for fiona I actually like her default the best.
>>712779431Not until Blue archive gets bikini this summer again to normalize the sale, just like Shin Changsop did.
So when the full game releases, will there be a Vindictus General on /vg/?
Will it be as bad as /tfdg/?
>>712783590there used be a vindictus general back in the day, it was about as "bad" as any other general really
we had /mmog/ too, good times playing dragon nest back then...I think I remember it getting totally killed when the old /gw2g/ spambot got attached to it
>>712783590Probably.
Probably worse since it'll attract Souls-fags.
Vindictus Defying Fate for $60 here I come!
>>712783982Well, this should be fun then.
>>712784018What will the Souls-fags say if they're bad at the game?
>>712777841Is that a dog behind her?
>>712761210 (OP)The gameplay kinda sucks but it's alpha so I can forgive it. I hope they improve it.
So when is the full game coming out? This alpha is blue ballsing me.
I mean, not literally. My balls are empty but that's besides the point.
How did you guys feel about the stun gauge mechanic? I felt like it took a bit too long to build up.
is the beta still up?
I hope nexon doesn't fuck it
>>712761210 (OP)I like the veiny tits. More games need huge sloshing veiny tits in them
>>712761210 (OP)I hate the forced multiplayer boards. Even at Solo party, the boss barely flinch. The multiplayer is so barebones y'all just attacking the shit with no teamwork, the boss is forced to switch targets every time it attacks for the sake of it. Fucking hell, was the old version the same? Because the soulslike combat is just fucking bad for multiplayer
>>712761210 (OP)How do i unlock costumes? In the demo at least.
can I play the game after the alpha ends tomorrow or it will be inaccessible?
I played a bit of the beta and was fun.
Is it gonna be an mmo like the last one? Or how is this different?
>>712785556The skills increases the gauge faster. I bet we'll get CD builds in the future while bosses will have higher gauge requirement to counter you. Nioh2 had similar gauge but you're forced to focus on one (purity for faster gauge increase with fatal attack or element for more DPS instead)
>>712785747Play the game, do the battle pass and earn the coins. The ingame currency is what's used for now to buy costumes in the alpha
>>712785556I think it's gonna be fine when we get the rest of the gear and an expanded skill tree.
>>712763584>linux troon he's some sort of epic hackerman because he can paste commands on a terminal
>>712786065that's sad. i will miss the titties. i only started playing yesterday.
>>7127855921day 20h I think?
>>712786147>i will miss the tittiessame bro..
>>712785832Basically, in town you can currently see other players, and there are 4 man raids like in early vindictus, but I wouldnt expect it to focus on multiplayer this time, they are aiming to improve the single player experience with multiplayer elements.
Well, I'm about done for the day.
Good night vindictus general, I'll see you in a year when the game finally releases.
I played for over 60 hours and i never touched karok or delia
>>712789295>I'll see you in a year when the game finally releaseslmao
>>712761210 (OP)Too bad the combat is a little lacking.
>>712769558also
>cooldowns for what were once smash attacks>no fucking stamina
I prefer the gameplay and mechanics of OG vindictus
I don't know why everything has to be a fucking soulslike these days
is there a tldr of how you manage to end up fighting aodhan in the new content
tons of the "character gameplay" type videos use him
>>712790195>is there a tldr of how you manage to end up fighting aodhan in the new contentHero exposes truth about Macha manipulating prophecy to stir endless conflict. Survivors of Royal Army that got suckered now join the hero and form an anti Macha alliance, establishing a truce with fomors that have also learned of Macha's bullshit. They extend the alliance to the Crimson Blades for more manpower but Aodhan can't let go of his family getting killed by fomors, so he wants to be put down as someone that can't know peace with fomors.
>>712761210 (OP)i didnt like the floating and aimbot combat of the bosses, feels cheap and lazy
>>712790736>so he wants to be put down as someone that can't know peace with fomors.damn...kino...
I kind of want to play through the story again since season 3 was where I kind of stopped understanding what was happening, thought it wasn't finished when I last played.
>>712791228Early season 3 is super messy on account of the whole time being in flux dual timelines shit on top of the pontiff's court scheming. it gets muddier with the introduction of Berbhe and the Nemedians and doesn't really clear up until just before it goes into season 4. Season 4's story is much more straightforward.
>>712763584hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha faggot
>people aren't even boob posting anymore
grim
Just did blood Lord Solo with Lann and got him down to 25% health. Best play so far. Once I beat him all I have left is bear and I will experience everything with Lann. Probably won't touch the other characters until full release.
>>712789443>Too bad the combat is a little lacking.It's a fucking downgrade from OG Vindictus in every gameplay aspect.
>>712794198Did you give feedback?
>>712761210 (OP)>still no mods that give eve a golden hip/waist ratiowhy is life so unfair bros
>>712761210 (OP)>The absolute dogshit pay to win MMO is acktschually le good because I can coom to it.Just watch porn.
>>712794376Wrong gook game thread nigga. This isn't Stellar Blade.
>>712794508>Vindictus>pay to winHasn't been this since maybe 7 years, or whenever the fuck they started doing outfits in gacha.
>>712794609They all look the same lol
>>712761210 (OP)I hope they release this soon i need a new mmo to no life in
>>712794912It's not an MMO. It's a Souls game with intentionally simplified combat compared to its predecessor.
>>712771518They tried to circumvent the crit & crit resist problem on Lann by giving him 1k stabs which gave a temp crit rate buff & later giving him a passively increased crit cap, though I don't remember if that was just free 10% extra crit rate or you needed gear to reach it.
I do remember the pain of not critting anything just as S2 dropped because I wasn't really super geared up
>>712794912https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu_eDxflkMc
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Why do people hate the demo?
>>712795552probably runs like shit and has expensive as fuck skins.
it's a nexon game.
>>712795552Primarily, probably because it runs like shit. It seems like every single gnoll ass hair has physics.
I heard that it leaves shit behind on your PC even after you uninstall it. Is there a guide on how to get rid of nexons spyware?
>>712761210 (OP)It's p2w as fuck isn't it? You paid thousands to get your character to look like that didn't you?
>>712767969Sounds like a YOU problem
No not coom game was ever good
>>712795904it's an alpha with no monetization yet, we don't know how the main game will be but likely cash shop bullshit like other nexon titles.
>>712795552A mix between the following
>combat is too hard>more than half the people on steam are on ancient hardware that cant run the game properly>combat is even worse in those ancient hardware because the lower your framerate the more input lag you have >tons of old vindictus players being mad because the game is different there also driver issues on the 40 class series which is basically what most people on steam that can run this game properly are using, which either cause crashes or worse performance, if you can get the game to work properly and have good framerates the combat feels massively better specially as you can react to the delayed attacks instead of predicting without messing the timing
>>712795621you can buy all the skins with the in-game currency that you get from either farming bosses or completing the battle pass, i got virtually half the store after one day of playing why do you even shitpost if you did not even bother installing this shit
>>712796185nexon employee mad lol
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>>712796185nexon would never make the system more predatory in the actual release
>>712761210 (OP)is this the sort of shit where you have a bunch of preset characters with names and personalities that you happen to be able to edit the appearance of, or do you make your own character?
I'm interested in the game but I want to make my own character
>>712796560premades you edit
>>712796103>more than half the people on steam are on ancient hardware that cant run the game properlyBro I'm on a 4080 and this game still stuttered. High fps is meaningless if its its inconsistent.
>>712795552Game is pretty boring too. The only good thing going for it is coom
>>712796606It's fucked, why do they do this shit...
>>712798156can't even edit the face so you are stuck with Bonnie Blue like abominations
I don't think it's bad but I'm really not enjoying the combat the same way I do the OG.
>>712783590Generals for games with character creators always devolve into the same clique of faggots talking about how much they want to jerk off to each other and the threads become unusable.
>>712798771i get it with this game at least..
>>712798771Sounds like all generals desu
>>712795621Anon, none of the skins cost real life money and you can afford them after like 4 bosses or something. What are you on about with them being expensive?
>>712799567>thinks mtx will continue using in-game currency at release
>>712799694Speculating on shit for full launch is still not a valid reason for the fucking alpha retard.
>>712799739You are cucked beyond belief thinking otherwise with that publisher.
>>712799886>duhvelopers!Nigga that'd be like criticizing Stellar Blade for being shitty gacha slop because Shift Up's prior products were gacha slop.
Fucking retard.
>>712799972Nexon's been doing this for decades, imbecile.
>>712776416>Souls-likeOff my wishlist.
>HAHSX
>>712800112>duh decadesYou've existed for decades as well, I highly doubt you still shit and piss yourself.
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>>712800194Who are you trying to convince here?
>>712800168My first impressions after playing the demo is that it's just a really generic action game only somewhat aping random things from soulslop. There's no stamina meter so you can just spam attacks and dodges as much as you want and for some reason you have those abilities that are underpowered relative to their literal ONE HUNDRED SECOND cooldowns. The skill trees are also absolutely pathetic. But that sums up most chink/gook soulslikes, they can't commit fully so you get this unholy amalgamation of a normal free action game + souls that doesn't really satisfy.
>>712800528No one. I'm just saying that as far as stupid things morons on the internet like you do, "I downvote this thing for stuff it's not doing but knowing these slimy devs is going to be a thing they WILL do, trust me, I'm from the internet" is just about the dumbest thing to do. It's literally what
>>712774217 said about dumbasses inventing things to get mad about.
>>712800592dark souls has truly rotted your brain beyond repair
THE FINAL GOONDOWN
DUN DUN DUNNN
DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN
unpopular opinion: I like sanyaa
pic unrelated
>>712800168it's not
you don't know anything about action games lmao
>>712804615I never much cared for the dash slash spam type characters personally
>>712761210 (OP)I hate UE5 and lumen in particular, especially when it's Nexon using it. TFD has the same issue where in some places lumen fucks up and the shadows look like they have a 2000% film grain filter applied to them despite being on max settings.
>>712761210 (OP)Is lann in? I just want to faceroll and grind for vanity characters I don't actually play as
>>712761898Delia is the most boring character. Both her counter and dodge are easy, her attacks are on the slower side. That's all that is to her.
Fiona is for counter
Lann for dodging and playing super aggressive.
Karok is for having slower attacks, but also power stance through attacks making you look like the boss if done right.
ok ill try when its 1 day left
When will this game actually release
>>712810239That's today
>>712811970We don't know
>>712810239it end in like 18hrs bro
>>712768157it took them 15 years to remaster vindictus s1 on stuttering engine 5 and they didn't even bother to add more than 2 combos and a counter
it's going to end up as gooning simulator after 2 months with population of 3000 players at this pace
>>712761210 (OP)>Only pictures are just characters or cutscenes AHH yes the stellar blade phenomenon
Shan't be buying your shilleed coombait garbage
Begone indian
>>712815367kill yourself bot poster
i will buy all coom games. i will keep this companies on business by myself. i love these games. i will forever play them. i have a lot of money.
>>712817019post moar anon im saving each an every one of these
>>712768157>>712768157this looks like shit
isn't she cold
why did he roll like that
what the fuck are you listening to
why is it snowing i hate the cold
your ugly
>>712816869i wish i could be this powerful
>>712761210 (OP)>this makes american seethe and angry
Delia sucks ass
Just admit it you delia players just want to fill the heroine of justice succumbs to dick fantasy
>>712817693i play her because cute girl with big sword is peak. also i find her fun still
Did any Fionafag manage to utilize her alt counter?
I tried to use it, but with every boss using combos it seems unnecessary risky trying to keep up your combo
>>712761210 (OP)Remember, if you lose or die you must delete the game, you do not deserve to be part of this Invincible community.
>>712817693Polearm Lynn isn't here yet, and so is hammer. I never got to play Delia seriously back then because I stopped playing shortly after her release, so it's a toss up between her and guaranteed furies Lann. Who am I kidding, of course I'm gonna pick Delia's veiny tits.
>>712816869based coomerchad voting with his wallet
>>712768157i have no problem with your choice of music however having in game music still playing while listening to your own is psychotic
All these years Vindy music still slaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTw86rLr7HM
Fill the survey you tards
https://x.com/V_DefyingFate/status/1934506326467748168
>>712817693I just want evie
I don't know why they added delia before everyone else when she wasn't even one of the OGs
>>712775859Same with them all given a new paint job, too. That last one with the Findium was actually pain, though. Just because the multiplayer bosses are a bit busted for the time being.
>>712817693She lets me cosplay a character from the story I'm writing, so, no. Though, I do have rape fantasies with her.
>>712777685>>712777859The issue is that you have to parry when the swing is at its apex not when it's just about to hit you. It's very counterintuitive to someone who has played this kind of game a lot. I've gotten hit by a swing when the weapon wasn't anywhere near me (yet) and normally you would parry like half a second later but not in this game
>>712816869>i have a lot of money.h-how much we talkin?
>>712817084I guess I could make a few more.
But what do you like about them so much?
>>712817693I just like princess knights bro.
>>712761210 (OP)I enjoyed the last demo but this demo crashes on my PC during the start menu for whatever reason.
>>712762273its a solo co-op spinoff. seems oaky but loses depth over the original
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Don't forget to say goodbye to Tieve's pet spider bwos.
>>712821247the way this game looks just scratches my brain the right way, your character looks very nice too
>>712821351You can't use the latest graphics drivers, you gotta use an older one.
>>712821106uhmmm like 6 figures
>>712821521Well, the beta is almost over so fuck Nexon.
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>>712821403>hi pet spider>*stares*
I liked old Vindictus as the really big guy back in the day. Is he in this? Reviews say its slow and boring but I can look past that if he's in it.
>>712821106sweet jesus, that's an outfit in the game?
idk how the fuck theyre gonna do it but they better fix this shit.
LOW QUALITY. DLSS HIGH PERFORMANCE AND MY GPU IS STILL FUCKING 73 DEGREES CELSIUS
>VinTITTUS
>a game featuring veiny bouncing boobas and outfits you would normally only find in loverslab
>still put my chick in a tin can
>>712796103>combat is too hardyou mash buttons and press dodge, you simply have to learn the boss moves
>more than half the people on steam are on ancient hardware that cant run the game properlyruns fine on my 3080 which is considered hilariously outdated nowadays
>>712824271>3080 which is considered hilariously outdated nowadaysWhat kind of fool says that?
Does it still keep armor damage and transformations? I loved the Paladin/Dark Knight.
>>712761210 (OP)Be real with me chingchongman, can I pirate this shit when it comes out or is it yet another always online dogshit?
>>712817937Bro thats just fiona.
Deflect was originally introduced so fiona could cope with her shit dps in the newer raids that prioritized attack speed, Its most likely in this game so she can cope with specific bosses like emuloch, tyrant and blood lord, dont expect to use it regularly because most enemies so far have pretty clean windows.
>>712820991My dude, you are having some sort of performance issue.
For a perfect parry/precision action you need to wait until just before you are struck, if you were actually guarding any time before that the boss would be slamming your skull to the ground.
I just tried doing what you describe and got creamed, I dont know what else to tell you.
idk if i did the survey properly
>>712827672My game ran fine, wasn't choppy or laggy at all. I can parry in Lies of P without issues but here I have to parry overhead smashes when the mace starts to come down not when it's about to connect. Something about the game is completely fucked and I didn't enjoy it, especially when playing it right after LoP
>>712827391yeah ok, doesn't answer my question.
I like the idea, but it just doesn't seem worth it over shield counter unless you go for TA autism.
The only issue shield counter has is that it seems to prematurely end a boss' stagger window. It seems like using heavy attacks ends a boss' recovery window prematurely.
Her light attack combo is pretty fast, so when there is an opening you can usually just do the full combo.
You can't really get in a kick between most combos so you have to deflect everything and hope there is no delayed or unlockable attacks.
Might be decent on Blood Lord, because he has no attack windows, but the time between his attacks might be to big.
I tried it on Emuloch which wasn't good with all the unlockable attacks mixed in. I don't think Tyrant is much better.
>>712817693Delia is only fun on the game running Source. Can't beat perfection after all.
>>712829489and because Valveniggers never release Source2 Nexon now have to make their shit in UE5
>>712829489and because Valveniggers never released Source2, Nexon now has to make their shit in UE5.
>>712829954Sorry, still in development lmao
>>712761210 (OP)>no shortiesyawn. wake me up when there are mods that decrease the height by alot atleast.
>>712761210 (OP)>No bunny suit>No magical girl costume>No swimsuit
Where the FUCK are the blueprints
>>712828421>bro i played edgy pinnocio!I 100%'d the pre alpha and the alpha, I took notes and sent off criticisms, I paid very, VERY close attention to the details here and I'm sorry to say that you are having a hardware or reaction time issue, simple as.
The precision action has a window that starts a few milliseconds before the hit and ends as it hits, you are trying to claim that the window starts in the windup and ends during the swing, which is easily disproven by simply playing the game, I am being extremely charitable by assuming its your hardware and not you being a fucking retard.
>>712832441I unironically had a better time in the other demo they did a while ago, not sure why the parries got worse in this one. Same pc.
Lost any interest in this game after this demo unless they come out and fix the shitty hitboxes
will there be another one?
>>712832889parries are still easy, Delia wasn't even in the first playtest.
Blue parries are weird, because the timing is different to the other parries and I don't think they existed in the first playtest.
I agree with you that you have to parry ahead of time, but its not a huge difference and not uncommon. I faintly remember a game that made it so you have to parry on time because the damage trigger was delayed after the hit.
I think it was MHRise with Longsword.
>missed the demo already
this is why online games fucking sucks.
>>712832889Same, the new one felt easier, red gnoll red attack has smaller and easier to dodge aoe this time. Also the blue parries have a really inconsistent timings between enemies it's sometimes easier to just get the fuck out of the way since they made aoe smaller
>>712830412Not a loli, but I'm waiting for lynn at least
>>712823584>max settings 62 fps>high settings 66 fps>medium 69fps>low 74 fpsThe fucking optimization in this game is shitty as fuck. Even at lowest settings you can't break 100 fps. UE5 is a fucking shitty engine my god
why did they give evie's spot to delia?
why does delia not have the timing based followups?
why is everyone so slow?
why are block and dodge on different buttons when it worked so perfectly on one?
>>712829124The damage of your combos increase the longer they are, fiona should be going for her amaranth kick (combo 4), literally every other combo is "oops, I dont have time for that", followed by a cancel+block (which isnt in this game yet) or a deflect + smash combo.
Ultimately you should aim for an amaranth just before an enemy hits, deflect, and get a second amaranth out for free. Fiona's DPS is highly technical in the original and while not as robust as of now in DF, its still the most technical of the current cast.
The only bosses I have difficulty getting kicks on are blood lord and emuloch, who both force me to use deflect even for shorter combos.
>>712835313evie a shit. it shouldve been Vella
>>712835789there is no way they would put vella in as is. xcut would be on a cooldown or have some kind of chargeup time or do next to no damage because she would be way better than the rest of the cast
>>712835313Because Delia is more popular than Evie
Because they turned the game into a souls-like from a character action game
Because they turned the game into a souls-like from a character action game
Because they turned the game into a souls-like from a character action game
>>712817693>one of only 4 characters currently available >dainty princess with a big sword>has both dodge and blockShe was my pick when I finished the ruins as Lann and wanted to go through Hoarfrost Hollow with a different character
>>712835313They havent figured out how to make evie work yet, but she will likely be in the game because evie was the DF director's character design from the original game.
The director is from the first season, I wouldnt expect too much as far as "where is my favourite marginally different character and their quirky traits?" She may have additional changes (its only an alpha ffs) but they may also keep her as the "not quite lann, not quite fiona"
Nobody is slow, pre-ignition update all the vindictus characters felt like this, go back to the first game and unequip everything but the free trainer gear from the recruit npc, youll see what 0 attack speed looks like
Block and dodge are likely separate because of the unreal engine's presets and/or controller support. Unlike the rest of you I actually sent in feedback instead of whinging, so im sure it will be addressed in the future, as the fixed a great deal of problems from the pre-alpha based on feedback. (though they would have likely done more if not for all you fucking faggot coomers telling them you will only play if they spend all their development time perfecting tit veins)
>>712835313Didn't Evie have heals and rezzes? They may not want a support character in this game
>>712838662mr. nexon marketing shill, this isn't reddit you don't double space here
just a tip for next time
I really really want to play this but I guess I am just too fucking DOGSHIT at souls-likes because it took me like 30-40 attempts just to kill the retarded red gnoll chieftain as Fiona...
>>712841457>anon asks four different questions>instead of quoting each one or creating a wall of text i separated themniggerbrain, I await your cope
>>712842084switch to lann, he's the easiest, or delia, who is in the middle.
You can also select easy mode, there isnt a big difference (not anything big enough to be easily noticed at least) except that the stun bar seems to build faster and you dont get absolutely obliterated if you miss a precision counter (it seems to do about half the damage of normal if you whiff it)
>>712842992>select easy modeor just go kms already
>miss a precision counterthe blue attack? that was the easiest part about the entire bossfight...
>>712843359the blue attack is fucked because it has a different parry timing than the other fucked up parries on that boss
imagine being conditioned to parry wrong the entire fight and then randomly the boss throws out something you need to parry in a way that makes sense
How did we go from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVPMRjnwaQ4
to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKlqd-TwdRQ
What a downgrade.
>>712843898like i said i have no problem parrying the blue one what i struggle with is the yellows
>swing-swing-yellow.... dodge it>swing-swing-yellow again... dodge it... oh teehee this is a DIFFERENT yellow that is delayed by 0.5 sec so you get fucked now :)
>>712761210 (OP)Good, because countless western women cannot relate to these same body standards.
>>712823337yes it is and holy shit that was a lot of spilled semen during this demo
>>712844487you literally just remove attack speed
you are comparing content released almost 10 years after the game's release to the content that was available essentially at launch
>>712835590getting kicks on emuloch is easy if you avoid the shield counter. I only had trouble with Delia doing the full combo because of her delayed last attack.
>>712835313they wanted it to be slower more methodical. OG Vindi was slower until Rise I think, not as slow as DF but still.
You should've played Lann in first playtest, his combo almost looked comical
>>712837665Scythe is way cooler than just a big sword that is in every Souls game. They just did it because its more popular. It would have been Hurk if that didn't make a 3rd male.
>>712839228many characters have many things. Karok doesn't even have his clash in the game nor can't throw away his pillar.
>>712845314This.
A better thing to use would be a sword Lann or sns Fiona from the original to DF because Delia's moveset is largely intact from both versions, whereas the other two I mentioned not only go through speed reductions but have a lot of their movesets gutted.
>>712844981how do you manage to find the exact matching skin tone in the color presets? is it a specific color palette?
>>712844487oh yeah, the good ol, <only the very last attack matters for damage>
You somehow managed to make Delia make looker better in DF.
I'm unbiased because I never played her in og.
>>712845672you just eyeball it from the preset colors, no wheel for custom colors afaik
you can use an armor piece that shows your skin then zoom in and compare altho keep in mind it obviously won't look the same in different environments
>>712843898>this fucking pinnocio casual keeps seething>gets told by the guy struggling that part isnt even hardblown the fuck out.
>>712795552I skimmed the reviews and mostly Anti-Nexon seethe. If you played a Nexon game you know what you're getting into. Expect pay win elements, massive grind, premium coom.
>>712845858he uses 2nd smash all the time in that macha video, are you blind?
yes, delia's biggest damage comes from the ion thrusts and 3rd smash, this isn't news most characters are like this but you can't always use it
>>712845941forgot to mention you can probably go the other route and change your skin color to match the limited set of dye colors instead, if it's possible to do that, haven't tried tho
>>712845941>>712846097I hope dyes will be easy to farm because you'd need a fucking metric SHITTON of them...
>>712846187>farmlol
lmao
don't worry, you'll be able to buy a pack of 10 for $5.99
>>712845531>getting kicks on emuloch is easy if you avoid the shield counteragain, like OG vindictus where you basically used to choose between combos and tech'ing or counterspam
That said, after they gutted large shields (and thus reduced HSC efficiency) and added counter buffing I ended up having to conform to counterspamshit and now I am broken. I dont think I got a single kick off on emuloch in DF, either during pre alpha or alpha.
I am too stoopid to play arisha....
>>712846187unlikely
>>712846292prepare for the worst
so when's the official release?
>>712846187>>712846292You'll get a whopping 2 dye ampoules in a seasonal event to hook you and compel you to buy a pack from the store
>>712846354>too stupid to play any post s1 characterthats sad, anon.
>>712846474in what way does that post imply that at all
I played both delia and belle
arisha is too many keyboard presses it makes my head hurt
waiter more chudslop please
>>712846803sorry we dont serve trannies here, please leave the establishment
>>712846354use the whip, parry and mash light attack
I enjoyed it but my computer can barely run the game and there are no graphic settings, by the time I made to hoarfrost or whatever I had all but given up on the game. Oh well I guess. Fuck it.
>>712846187If it's anything like the original game, you get to buy it from the inn using the same resource that you spend on skills.
>>712761210 (OP)Delectable leg muscles.
>>712846724Arisha is just as braindead as the rest of them, she's just pointlessly obtuse while being so. Though I'll admit that belle is exceptionally simple.
>>712845592I think Lann is pretty solid in DF except the active skills. For some reason you have to active that 7 fury 3 times and you can only do 6 hits.
The active skills for all classes are shit, just click button for big damage with some having a follow up attack.
>>712846067i never said I didn't see it, most of the video is still just hitting those last (two) smashes while filler attack out of range.
Is the missing second smash your only complaint?
Maybe its better in og but the video you posted isn't very convincing. I don't even like Delia in DF.
Those look way more engaging though I hate that ridiculous Rise endgame speedup, but old-old Fiona is just shield bash spam
>Lannhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlmzTbbdKV0
>Fionahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z882NsEUE2Y
>Old Staff Eviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5r5y5ttjk8
>>712846724>arisha is too many keyboard presses it makes my head hurtThis is an even easier arisha now that they reduced the key input needed to start ruin blade. If you're still struggling just switch to whip like
>>712847512 said and spam stringendo.
I yet to see pantyshot from the OP pic
>>712847776good
go be a nigger somewhere else
>>712848125I didn't post that video
delia only has three smash links
that video uses almost her entire kit except maybe her first smash which is mostly pointless except to get keen sometimes
>horrendous dialogue that goes on for half an hour before any real gameplay
>enemies have 3 attacks
>ultra generous parry window
>spam the same combo string while occasionally doing a shield bash
>get a companion, he just rushes in and dies a lot
>game spawns 3 archers on perches that I can't reach while I'm fighting 3 melee mobs below
Not for me I guess, nice tits and ass though.
>>712849035they absolutely flopped the enemy variety in chapter 1 and threw a lot of people off, which was a terrible mistake
>game spawns 3 archers on perches that I can't reach while I'm fighting 3 melee mobs belowyou can destroy their perches
>>712849035>combat isn't Bing Bing wahoo new every second>any encounter with challenge is too much effortwhy do xommers struggle to enjoy anything?
>>712847971He's not wrong though that Arisha requires more keypressing than the other characters. Everyone else you just press tab or hit space then right click or just press Z and that's all you need to do. With Arisha
>Oh you did ruin blade? Don't forget to WASD otherwise you'll do shit for damage.>oh you did do that and the enemy is still open to another attack? Don't forget to do the follow up by hitting SW>good job blocking that attack with counter blade buddy. don't forget to hit SW for the follow up attack.>oh you didn't want to be in mana blade stance after the follow up? You should have pressed AD then!And the whip also has that shit too with mana transition and mana agrement.
>>712849221I thought I took a swing at them, but I guess it didn't register.
>>712849228Yeah I hate souls shit, sorry.
>>712761210 (OP)is the demo good?
i always wanted a fun mmo but they are either too expensive or too boring or too dead
ive tried tera/wow/gw2/tibia/lineage 2/ black desert
guild wars would be fun but i realised to be a good experience you need to purchase the expansions
>>712849405a 24 year old go-getter would just download and try it
>>712849854you have a whole fucking thread you can read
>>712849035yeah everything between the bosses is stale. You can't even style on normal enemies anymore because they are so spread out. Needs more stuff like traps and small platforming segments, or simple physics puzzles and stuff you can destroy along the way.
They should tell you the story along the way, now that they have voiceactors
>>712849221>you can destroy their percheskek, someone complained about this in the og Vindi
https://youtu.be/GNkNDCJC35w?feature=shared&t=809
im genuinely surprised my thread is still up.
Would this be a good thing or a bad thing for Vindictus?
I mean it can't get worse than Nexon has always been right?
>>712851436True. It'd only be a little better.
>Stellar Blade but shit
I'll pass
>>712851436Dunno how it goes for TFD but as far as Vindictus goes, Nexon pivoted their monetization from pay2win to pay2coom. The answer to your question relies entirely on how monetization is handled in Tencent's games.
>>712851528I don't see the point of your post. If Vindictus Defying Fate ends up being a premium game I'll support it.
>>712851634the point of my post is that the gameplay is much worse than stellar blade's
>>712851715Its vindictus, go do your DMC5 larp elsewhere, nobody is impressed.
>>712851572I'd honestly take pay 2 play over any of the other shit, especially if it had costume unlocking like
>>712851528Vindictus has always been fun to play but it just has dogshit monetization. I respect Stellar Blade for having so many unlockable costumes instead of selling them for money, I don't think I've ever seen that in a Korean game, and even western games would sell all of that as """microtransactions""" for 20 bux per outfit now
>>712851780when and where did I mention DMC5?
>>712819810>he doesn't have 5 audio sources playing at the same time at all timesyou are weak
>>712849390>I thought I took a swing at them, but I guess it didn't register.dw i did too initially with the same result and gave up but decided to try again
>>712852005The thing about this is Stellar blade in relation to Vindictus, or any other game that does monetization like this (or even subscriptions as it was in the old days) is that the former is a quick thrill. Their devs made the game with a defined start, middle, and end in mind. In the case of the latter, it's designed with the intent to be on going. There's a start and an end in mind, but the middle is a blank space they can pad with anything they can think of to keep the game going on for years.
You play Stellar Blade 15 years later and it'll be the same game, with nothing new to do in it. As evidenced from all the old fags in this thread, you pick up Vindictus 15 years after the game had come out and there's shit for them to do that wasn't there when they first played it.
why isn't there hdr support
>>712850692he's more complaining that the game has the "climbing" mechanic but doesn't actually use it even when it might make sense from a combat perspective (i.e. climbing the towers to kill the guy on top)
he's also right about most things about the game from a new player perspective, Rise basically gimped the game's growth forever.
Yeah, I know that the combat against appropriately leveled bosses is good as hell and it doesn't actually take that long to get there and to expect everything until then to be a boring slog but it's stupid to expect any new player to take your word for that and be fine with mashing left click through the majority of the game's story the first time they play it. Feels like they would have been way better off just adding an alternative pipeline for veteran players to go down that got them through all of that quicker than completely gutting and remaking all of the old content for every new player.
>>712761397That is the issue. they call it an "alpha" but this is the game, ,the gameplay, the loop were getting. Theres no secret mountain of content thats gonna come by 2026 and they consider it release. Itll just be more bikinis and nipple tape. No male content. And no fixing the combat issues. Theres a signifigant issue with no attack speed variables in a game like vindictus where the goal is to get to your 4th smash asap over and over. The biggest bosses dont even have fatigue meters to make some sort of high stun damage build even viable.
>>712850692I remember this video. The retard complained about how he's never felt the need to do anything more than spam left click when he's playing Kael, aka a character whose combos only come from left click.
>>712852979It doesn't matter what character you play, you don't have to do anything except press left click for the entirety of season 1
>>712853069If you want to take 10 years to beat it, sure. The smash attacks do vastly more damage than your chuck liddel left clicks on any other character, making the fights go significantly faster. Kael (and sword Arisha) break that rule because their smash attacks are bound to left click along with their normals.
>>712853314You're being a bit facetious to take everything so literally. Season 1 bosses die in an amount of smashes you can count on one hand, especially the early ones before you get to raids (which still die in seconds). You can clear every boss and every raid with the same combination of button inputs on basically any character, it straight up doesn't matter what you do. The new player experience is fucking terrible. Him playing anyone else would not have changed how he felt or what he said at all.
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>>712853602>Him playing anyone else would not have changed how he felt or what he said at all.Guarantee you it would and he'd bitch about how his mashing left click didn't make the character's attacks feel like it had any oomph to it, because again, left click attacks do fuck all.
>>712851436nexon is bigger than korea itself, how and why would tencent even "buy them out"? who is giving up the shares?
>>712852005I also prefer pay2play, but nigger, ive playted vindictus for 15 years straight and never spent a dime, why do you fuckers act like gooner costume gacha is some kind of fucking requirement?
>>712853753I've never seen someone so vehemently defend the braindead retarded Rise changes. Insane. You can see the same complaints from anyone else who attempts to try out the game for the first time. What difference does it make if I walk forwards, press LLLRR on delia, and the boss dies instantly on repeat for 10 hours when I first pick up the game? It gives you all of these tools but no reason to use any of them until you've been facesmashing your keyboard for 30 hours.
Just for the record you can kill the early season 1 level bosses with just left clicks in seconds, and all of the random trash between levels that you spend a majority of the time slogging through? Literally single hits.
>>712854024>2.28THoly fuck.
>>712852979half of the video is basically
>why is the game not Dark Souls 3>why is the early game so easy>why does the game throw mechanics at me without explaining>why is the tower not indestructible so I can climb it to kill the archer>why has the game verticality without forcing some gameplay aspect with it>why does the game have a hub town when the gameplay is just level based>eww tits>turns off game after 8 hourshe has a few valid points, but its weird hearing him complain about early game when virtually every MMO is a snoozefest at that stage.
>>712853069The left click thing is even weirder because he clearly mixes in other attacks, but then comparing it to Dark Souls out of all things that barely even rewards you for using more than R1
>>712853639using skin tone with this and bending over actually gave me a boner
>>712854156>Literally single hitsLiterally not. Stop being so full of bullshit. With left clicks alone it'd take you at least 3 hits to kill a basic bitch gnoll.
>>712854383you can see him one shotting all of them in the fucking video
>>712854468https://youtu.be/GNkNDCJC35w?t=511
You mean this video? Where Kael (being the newest character at the time this was made) comes with new dude in the game damage buff having to two shot a gnoll aka not one shot it?
>>712854269Nexon gets regularly sued by the korean government for breaking laws on gambling, but they just pay a few million out and go on with their day.
People REALLY underestimate how addicted korea is to gacha, and they seem to forget the flood of stories we got out of there of internet cafe deaths, neglected animals and starved children.
>>712854383>>712854468I played as Fiona on normal and it took me 4 leftclicks and a rightclick smash to kill a basic bitch gnoll what am i doing wrong? sometimes they'd even survive with like 1% hp
>>712854281The dark souls comparisons are annoying and retarded but unfortunately that is the world we live in at this point, everything and anything is going to be compared to it. Even retards in this thread are doing it The primary reason the game struggles with new players is because it presents such a braindead level of gameplay to every new player that tries it. Hell, you can't even really enjoy new characters as a veteran player because you always have to slog through the same old Rise content that doesn't require a single ounce of thought every time. The level skips they do help get through some of it but the last time I did that it only got me up to season 2 which is still about as easy and braindead to play at this point with all of the gifts they give you.
I don't think every MMO doing it is a valid reason to not complain about it, this shit has ruined about every one of these korean MMOs I've ever played because they all eventually do it to help maintain the long-term playerbase. They guy the leveling content, remove parts of the story, completely restructure everything to make it as fast as possible to get through, and give you endless free +10 gears so you can faceroll through everything. It's fucking awful.
>>712854915At this point you are arguing that it's not a horrible experience because it sometimes takes two hits to one shot trash mobs instead of one
>>712761210 (OP)I would like to like this game, but it crashes every 15 min for me ;_;
>>712855083>At this point you are arguing that it's not a horrible experience because it sometimes takes two hits to one shot trash mobs instead of oneNo, I'm arguing that you're just as much a moron as he is because "y i fel stronk wen left click" while playing the character who only combos through left click.
>>712855049Defying Fate is not the same game. Defying Fate is like the game was before they made all of the early content a joke so you can get through it faster. In the MMO vindictus you played through essentially the same content and story you are now in Defying Fate and it was a similar level of difficulty, though maybe still a bit easier back then. Things in Defying Fate still feel chunkier than I remember. At a point in the past (like 8 years ago?) they redid all of that to keep up with new content and now they gift you gear and nerfed all of the enemies so it's easier to get through.
You aren't going to one shot trash gnolls in Defying Fate. It's not balanced like that.
>>712855501>Defying Fate is like the game was before they made all of the early content a joke so you can get through it fasterIn the original Vindictus, when Lann and Fiona were the only characters, you totally demolished gnolls with full combos, even having OVERKILL damage being shown to make you feel good about how much you completely pwned teh noob gnolls.
He's complaining about how at times not even a full combo kills them.
>>712855727That's what I said right after. I don't think he was complaining he was just confused.
>>712855501>>712855727i am not complaining, i was just confused since ppl claim that they literally oneshot the gnolls while i have to do a full combo and pray i dont get hit by a stray arrow so i thought i just suck at the game
>>712770005>Nobody used grapplesI used grapples well into S3 because grapple kills restored HP
>>712855083my issue isn't that he compares it to DS, but DS has a much harsher learning curve and can be easily beaten with just left clicks. Dark Souls doesn't even make much use of its verticality either. It's okay when DS does it because everyone knows Souls games are le hard. If Vindictus would throw the White Tyrant at you as the second boss I'd bet a finger that he would complain about learning curve.
Either that or he fails to understand that most player picking up an mmo would be equally appalled about possibly failing a quest early on.
Early Vindictus game was always easy. Sure it got worse, but even more tragic is that you have 5 times as much trivial content, while still having to run through just as many copy and pasted levels.
>make it as fast as possible to get throughI'm afraid this isn't exclusive to korean MMOs, the last two Monster Hunter games gave you overpowered starting gear once the expansion dropped. No explanation that this trivializes early game.
>>712856910I just liked pushing gnolls against a wall and kicking their sternum in.
do i go back to the OG? i havent played since 2017/8
I think the enemy attack timings are much easier to read in the original but that might just be because I have looked at them for so long.
>>712770005>nobody used them after the novelty leftnobody used them because they filled no purpose, the damage was laughable. It just looked cool and made the game more interactive even if it was useless.
Mining bombs are more fun than picking up a shiny, kicking down a bridge by cutting ropes is more fun than flipping a switch, setting up a campfire before a boss was comfy (the buff was neglectable).
I hope most of this stuff finds its way in the game, because its soulful as fuck at the very least. Stuff that no Souls game has.
god bless games with muscle sliders
>>712804615>>712821106>>712853639too bad you can't still see the veins with this setup
>>712854468This is because he is using the power leveling +12 equipment given to all characters nowadays to speed through the S1 and S2 stuff
It didn't use to be like this ...
>>712854098>why do you fuckers act like gooner costume gacha is some kind of fucking requirement?that's literally the point of the game, you're insane if you don't think so
I've come to the conclusion that I simply don't like playing nu-Delia. Fiona is just more fun than her and works better in the new game.
>>712767969If you unironically didn't find a single one of those games fun then you actively thought they were fun BECUASE of the sex appeal and absolutely nothing to do with the actual gameplay. Which means you're a tranny.
I miss delia's alternate smashes, having to wait on falling comet always felt so good
>>712761210 (OP)i've been grinding the white tyrant, I finally killed him solo without taking any hits with Lann
there's a few moves that can vary from no follow-up to 2 follow-ups, I can hear the scummy devs laughing when I get hit by those gay ass swipes
I really hope they optimise it, I go from 100+fps solo to 20-30 dips with other players using abilities that is absurd
>>712844981>>712845941at this point they should embrace it and just have an official nsfw patch
>>712848125>Open Lann video>DreamwalkersKino, that was literally me
>Normal modeWait a minute what the fuck is that shit
>>712860671>I go from 100+fps solo to 20-30 dips with other players using abilities that is absurdsomehow that problem manages to plague the game even across engines
>>712860671its time to get a 9800x3d
>>712860845>official nsfw patchthat'll be 49.99 to unlock the monthly subscription plan of only 14.99 (needs to be active for the nsfw patch to work)
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/227685-vindictus-defying-fate-playtest-remove-clothing/page/3/#comments
fellas....the mods are going to be fantastical
>>712860901>Wait a minute what the fuck is that shitIn the old days you had Normal, Hard, and Hero difficulties for dungeons and raids. Nowadays for raids you have training, the regular raid, and hero+.
>>712862770Yeah I know that
What the fuck is that guy doing on Normal
I'm pretty sure Keaghan had Hard mode and they added Hero later
Didn't Normal slow them down too? Or was it that Hero sped them up?
>>712863172Normal and Hard had the same attack speed. The only difference was that Hard had slightly more HP and hit harder. Hero had noticably more HP, hit harder, and regular mobs/minibosses had special prefixes that affected what they did, like Ladykiller did more damage to female characters or Sharp had higher crit rates.
>>712862770I think raids didn't have Hero. I don't remember what was the difference between Normal and Hard
>>712863372Yeah that brought back some memories
Some of them couldn't be launched and was basically a fuck you
You could get some nasty combinations of the wrong trait on the wrong enemy just being satan
>>712863372Oh, and also Hero raids all had the mechanic of "if boss is below x bars of health = increase attack speed".
>>712863434Raids had Hero mode, but didn't come with it right away when Hero mode got implemented. IIRC by the time hero lvl 60 raids got implemented end game content was already either the last part of s2 or the beginnings of s3.
>>712853639no veins alas but bending over with this is cum
I added my boss to steam and he saw me playing this on Saturday for like 10 hours.
>>712864239now he knows you are straight and a dedicated gamer, good stuff anon
why did they add breast veins but not veins everywhere else?
>>712864315pretty sure there's thigh veins
getting some webms before it goes offline
>>712864593but what about arm veins and face veins
they gotta do the whole shebang
and where's the thigh/ass jiggle? capcom has the entire gaming industry beat
>>712864706MOAR, THANK U ANON
>>712864706If they turn all this shit into microtransactions I'm gonna jump out of my window.
>>712864927Hope you live on the first floor, anon.
>>712864927I don't see how else they plan to pay their team to port over 15 years worth of stuff from the old game over.
>>712864751>>712864818well thread hit bump limit with that very post so not sure I'll be able to get them all out, there's a couple more I have recorded
mainly a dance and the wave with wakipai
>>712864927I'm glad you're prepared for it then
>>712865029sniff
>>712865183make a new thread if necessary plz
>>712864927of course they will, that's why they let you try everything now. so you come back later and want it back and spend that money to get back what you had before.
>>712864927even if we get a $60 launch with some outfits in game there's gonna be SOME kind of paid system for more outfits. battlepass or dlc outfits at the very least is practically bound to happen and they will be juicy outfits to encourage spending
>>712865493well spent anon
>>712865550DLC packs would be a preferable alternative. Still kind of scummy but at least I'd be able to enjoy the base game with what's in this test.
>>712865352If the base game costs money and it's still got a fully kiked MTX shop then I hope Kim Jong Un invades worst korea while America is preoccupied with Iran.
https://streamable.com/k41pf3
jesus christ
they should just make it a porn game unironically
>>712866009I wouldn't mind if they made it 18+ but I still like that it has an actual game just with some lewd outfits more than if it was just a stereotypical porn game
damn I'm used to boards where it takes like 2 hours to hit page 10 /v/'s catalog is fast as fuck, I wanted to do one more with just the breathing animation because it's kind of sexy
vp9 takes too damn long
>>712866009uhm akchually I like the gameplay and have for a long time
just add nude outfits and i'd be satisfied
>>712865803indeed
unmatched gooner game
>>712866290vp8 still fucks
>>712866345don't worry about the mess, delia will handle it
shit was 4.04 MB the first time, barely made it
>>712858208Said like someone who didnt play the first season.
Its absolutely provable that Han Jaeho, the second director was responsible for the goonification (and casualization) of the game, In season one the holy wing half plate was considered risque, and male and female characters wore the same sets of armor, it was not until season 2 when vella was released that they started making sex specific armor and releasing pornographic outfitters.
>>712858467Thats probably because the game was clearly designed with the original duo in mind, which is why they arent sure if they can make evie work and havent even mentioned kai, I think delia was added because she's the closest thing to the original ludo and they needed something else in the game.