It wasn't WoW Vanilla that killed the MMORPG genre. It was The Burning Crusade, with its total focus on endgame content, arenas, and heroic dungeons!

If undertale and deltarune didn't have gay furries nobody would care about those games

wotlk killed it
wotlk had a disney/nickelodeon aesthetic with cringe cutscenes, cringe literal who characters and gearscore low-functioning autism

>TRUTH NUKE
>posts the most milquetoast opinion

MMO with tab combat is a retarded genre. What is the point, niggers? With something like diablo you gotta be a good gookclicker and know the build. With tab combat MMO, success depends entirely on how much of a neet nigger you are.

>>712798813 (OP)
You forgot flying mounts that work like a freeflying camera with no physics whatsoever.

>>712798813 (OP)
watch dogs is better than gta 5

>>712798813 (OP)
the
stellar threads on /v/ are all artificial hype
the amount of (you)s I'll get will confirm this

>>712798813 (OP)
Indies are long overdue to become a 6th gen AA lite but are still regarded as a special case by their fans because of a few single man devs, even though many indies nowadays have teams no smaller than the ones that made major 6th gen games

>>712798813 (OP)
redditjaks killed this site

>>712798813 (OP)
Zoomers will not buy GTA VI

>>712799116
here is a (you) for you.

>>712799142
What does this mean? Indie studios will do back in time to produce ps2 titles?

>>712798813 (OP)
>World of Warcraft was never good.
>Paying a subscription to play a game is not good.
>Paying for an in-game service is not good.
>Paying to use a skin is not good.
>Overwatch was never good.
>TF2 isn't good, no matter how much soul it has.
>Competitive multiplayer games are not good.
>Starcraft was never good and only made popular by bug men.
>Watching a stream for more than 2 minutes isn't good.
>Digimon Cyber Sleuth has a bad story.
>Army of Two would sell a million copies if rereleased and marketed right.
>Anti-woke shit is cringe.
>If a game looks trash, you shouldn't give energy into hating it or playing it.
>Araki ruined his own series with his gay twink designs instead of his white Ronnie Coleman builds in 1-3.
>Dragon Quest Builders 2 is better than Minecraft, and any other game featuring building.
>Fantasy Life is a shit game.
>Runescape was only good because of the British humour.
>Everyone should have a desktop PC for their office, and a living room PC for 4K games.
>Mario is soulless.
>The GBA is the only console good enough to stand side by side with the PS2.
>The PS5 controller is the best of all time. It mogs all others.
>Haptic triggers are amazing.
>Video-games, especially JRPG, should have AI models included so you can have conversations with your party members or other NPC. This includes forming relationships.
>Every Persona game is good if you completely mod out the conversations & story.

If you aren't playing VR shooters while wearing wrist weights then you are not a digital, internet knight for your people.
You are instead a jester jingling your balls, and acting the stories of the knights of your people.

>>712799450
What it means is
>Stop making ps1/pixelshit for fucks sake and just copy more good games than stone soup or quakedoomkem

>>712798813 (OP)
in the end, it doesn't even matter

>>712798813 (OP)
COD is still the best selling game in each year because it's filling a niche nobody bothers to fill

>>712798813 (OP)
This is the most correct post I've seen in years
Wow was at it's best when it was a chatroom with an RPG attached

>>712798813 (OP)
If you buy a game and hate that game you are a fucking retard.
Its 2025 its impossible for a game to release in a truly misleading manner. There's tons of trailers, demos, user reviews and usually at least one no commentary playthrough. There is ZERO excuse for buying a game and then going "Oh wow I don't like it" because it just means you didn't do even an ounce of reading on what the game was. Its an admission you bought the game because of loose word of mouth, FOMO/FOTM or just because it was cheap.
I'm not saying you can't hate certain games in general, I'm saying that you shouldn't own any games you hate because it makes no sense for you to buy a game and only after starting to play it realize you didn't like it. What you expect? It to be different form all the trailers and descriptions of the game? The game that's (genre) or (playstyle) you don't like will some reason not be that despite saying it was going to be that? Pure retardation

>>712798813 (OP)
Video games aren't getting worse.
They're better than they've ever been and just keep getting better every year.

>>712800124
This is true if you aren't AAA slopper

>>712798813 (OP)
I chudronically agree

>>712799856
kek

>>712798813 (OP)
I've been saying this for years. TBC introduced every single shit thing about MMO's. WotLK was a step forward and more polished game overall. It was the peak of WoW.

>>712798891
Spamton alone would carry DR through sheer meme value
I somewhat agree on UT though

Gaming has always been pretty shit.
Only a small percent of video games are actually worth playing.

>>712798813 (OP)
videogames are fun and i enjoy them.

>>712798813 (OP)
Left or right leaning politics are utterly irrelevant. It isn't about woke vs antiwoke
What's ruining vidya is normalfags and the attempt to appeal to the majority of lemmings that make up the "market". If games was properly aimed at whatever playerbase it whats to capture and adequately scaled in scope and cost, you'd not have the issues you have now.

RTS "died" not becasue of MOBAs like rtsfags love to bitch about but because everything they had to offer other (new) genres do better - building, tactics, strategy, planning, logistics hence why we have such genres as wargames, settlement and city builders, tower defences, production autismos, paradox painting simulators and so on.

There's nothing elite or prestige about fightans. The whole "you're afraid of 1v1 competetion" angle that fightan players are trying to push is simply a cope considering that card games, shit like clash royale and even chess are pretty popular.

>>712800550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJtiQa9WTD4

>>712798813 (OP)
Nobody would seethe or care about AI if the retards using it just did bare minimum of post processing and didnt use cookie cutter prompts that make it extremely easy to spot

>>712800724
My guy this isn't an SB thread. Probably re-aim your bot.

>>712800650
>1v1 competition
>card games
You can blame bad card RNG. You can't blame anything but yourself if you fuck up a duel, assuming that you don't get massive lags or something.
Notice how the most popular titles in all games are the ones where you have something (or somebody) to blame in case you lose, MOBAs being a good example.
People just don't want to admit that they're shit.

MMOs were never good

FF7 is fucking mid(gar) as far as the series goes. It's not bad, but the only reason people act like it was the 2nd coming of Christ: vidya edition was because it was babbies first 3D JRPG on on the playstation. The way you hear midwits go on about it you'd think tifa herself jumped out of the TV and put her pungent feet in your face.

>>712799897
>playing games for graphics and not for gameplay/story
Yup, mouthbreather alert!

>>712801003
Is that why fightan players constantly complain about connection, balance, input lag, netcode and gazzilion of small mechanics such as rage meter? Don't kid yourself, you love to blame others just like players in every other genre.
Once again, there's nothing elite about fighting games.

>>712798925
>cringe literal who characters
>t. newfag who didnt play warcraft

>>712799102
the hacking was extremely lackluster, but somehow the driving was better in watchdogs than gta 5

>>712798813 (OP)
>[People who play RPGs are] “depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games.”

>>712801116
>Completely ignores the second half of the post

>>712801163
This shit is universal to all games, even IRL. "I wasn't ready/the grass wasn't good/I have the bad shoes/she flashed her tits at me" etc. There's no point in counting it. There's a difference in things you can blame between team-based and 1v1 however.
> you love to blame others
If they fuck up in a game-losing way, yes. It's an objective fact. But If *I* fuck up, I'll admit it. I'm not perfect. I'm not playing tournaments with money prizes and my ego won't suffer from losing in a virtual time-waster
>there's nothing elite about fighting games.
I'm not saying there is. But at the same time there's nothing prestigious about any other game like chess. Except people have convinced themselves that there is because of cultural ties.

>>712801373
Truth. What's wrong with that tho? Customer is a customer.

>>712801418
"Dirty money" is a term that exists for a reason. Some customers are better than others. It makes marketing easier. You'd rather have normalfag families than actual, open nazis show up in your store.

>>712801398
>I'm not saying there is.
Well, my point was that /v/ermins love pretend the other way. Especially when someone makes another "why don't people play fighting games thread" this rhetoric is all there is.
When in reality it's just another genre like any other.

only the video games I like are good.
the video games (((you))) like are bad

>>712798813 (OP)
Remakes are all disposable trash made for a quick buck that will not stand the test of time.

>>712801501
>Some customers are better than others. It makes marketing easier. You'd rather have normalfag families than actual, open nazis show up in your store.
Normalfags are the reason modern gaming is such a trash. Same goes for sci-fi, fantasy and any other "geek" field that went mainstream.
Start making highly specific games targeted at austismos and your product will acquire defining features making them stand up and appear valuable. Product targeted at everyone often is either lacks artistry or ends up being targeted at no one.

>>712801296
I accept your concession.

>>712798813 (OP)
There has never been a western game with good writing.

>>712801508
>"why don't people play fighting games thread" this rhetoric is all there is.
I'm not seeing many people claiming that anti-fightanfags just can't handle the prestige. It's always either mechanical complexity or compfright. And in a way both apply to classic RTS, of which I am a die-hard fan and do enjoy the multiplayer. And what you've said about "the alternatives" is true, but fighting games don't have said alternatives. You don't get "blocking games", "juggling games" etc.Unless you count Smash Bros as the city builders of fighting games or something.

>>712801789
there's a hot take and then there's bait.

>>712801858
If you disagree with me then name one and I will laugh in your face.

>>712801763
thank you for already saying my line.

>>712801887
treasure planet: battle at procyon

>>712801952
Sorry, but you can't just put a 19th century novel into space and claim it as your own.

>>712798813 (OP)
It's changes to the overworld were good.

>>712802046
Treasure Planet: Battle at Procyon has nothing to do with the treasure island novel.
You just randomly guessed because you have no idea of the story.

>>712798813 (OP)
Xbox 360 killed gaming
>Paying for online
>Normalizing DLCs and microtransactions
>Gay achievements and try hard 'gamerscore' focus, ultimately affecting how developers designed their games
>Heavy focus on digital, including digital currency
>Homo avatars and degenerate online chatting experience
>Faggot multiplayer heavy experience games, having to deal with actual mental retardation on lobbies constantly
>Ads everywhere

Ultimately, everyone in the industry is at fault, because they would eventually adopt everything that the 360 introduced, but god damn wasn't that console the catalyst for every little fucking thing that's wrong with gaming and modern

>>712802107
It's based on that crappy Disney movie from 30 years ago. That movie was based on Treasure Island. Explain where the difference is.

If you can't put 1000+ hours into the game and and stull be hooked on it it's garbage

>>712798813 (OP)
thanks tigole

The ranked culture of online games has poisoned every multiplayer genre. Without rank, people will play online matches put try their best, improve, play again tomorrow. Before a meta was formed, a sequel was released and people jump to that. This encourages fundamentals.
Now with the introduction of rank, people grind these games. It's a job that autist use to escape the real life pain. You don't play fighting games to get good or have fun. You choose a fighting game that carries legacy skills, i.e, people won't try a new fighting game. Tekken will stick with Tekken, meanwhile Street Fighters players will stick with street fighter.
Even on fightcade, you'll be lucky to find an unranked match.
As long as the concept of rank exists, sbmm will exists, and multiplayer will remain dogshit.

> What if I want to play ranked?
You should not play ranked period.
> SBMM (50% Winrate, reward schedule)
> Ranked (Rewards themselves)
> Progression System (Sunk Cost Fallacy, fake currency equivalent of time spent, designed to sink your time, without even realizing)
Combining all this creates a perfect Skinner Box. In slot machines you can blame the luck. But these games "feel" like they are not luck based, meanwhile the things I mentioned above make sure that you'll never realize that you are winning/losing as intended. Not because you are getting good.
In a random matchmaking, you'll play with players near you everyday. You are still playing the same game, but you won't be hooked. If you are losing too much, you'll quit and maybe come back after a few days, and see if the mechanics clicks with you. And after sometime you'll move on to something else or a sequel if the company is dedicated.
Here comes ranked mode. The algorithm is efficiently designed to let you win just enough to not quit, but not too much that you quit the game if you lose. There are statistical algorithms at place, the average outcome of your next 100 matches is already pre-determined by the matchmaking system.

>>712801296
>warchief's godfather's abandoned son and brox's gay older brother's adopted son are main story points
>Humans other city's lord regent gets burned alive
Anon you need a GS of 980 to post in this thread

Multiplayer games are retarded.

>>712798972
There were several MMOs with action-like gameplay and they didn't exactly do great numbers. Part of it is for unrelated reasons but part of it is simple, MMOs have lots of downtime and combat takes a huge chunk of the time that isn't downtime, if you need to be 100% involved with the combat for hundreds of hours then then leisurely tab target is simply better.

>>712802269
> muh what about games without matchmaking
Yeah, but the ranked culture has spread there. Think about it, why does Fightcade need a ranked mode? It's was supposed to be a perfect replacement for arcades. You login, you see who is playing, and simply hop in for a match.
But they have to add "Rank", now people are grinding that shit clocking in 1000s of hours, metas are formed. For no reason at all.
They could've gone for number of matches "Win". That's it. But no, we need to have some sort of score that needs to go up or down.
Any multiplayer game where your skill is displayed by some "rank" or a score is dogshit. Your skill should be displayed in gameplay itself. Never play a game with "Rank" modes. Simple as that.

People should not need some external thing to verify their skill or achievements. Treat players as human beings, not rats.

>>712802183
yeah, the MOVIE was and successfuly made its own take on it. the game has its own story, loser. the GAME is not about the events of the MOVIE. its a DIFFERENT story.

>>712801887
anyways.
COD modern warfare 2 story,
bioshock,
dying light,
dragon age origins,
mass effect OG,
outer wilds
prototype OG
Morrowind
40k Rogue Trader
I can keep pulling up games with good stories.

TLDR: never play games that has a ranked ladder

>>712802342
>yeah, the MOVIE was and successfuly made its own take on it.
So where does it diverge from Treasure Island? I read the synopsis and it seems to follow the same story just in an outer space setting.
>COD modern warfare 2
Stopped reading there. LMAO.

>>712802094
nah, it ruined Garooch's gooch.

>>712802094
...and more changes should have kept happening rather than new islands pop up out of the sea that you play around on for a year and then never again.

You expand upon the world building you already established, you make people care about the world. You make it alive.

They could have ignored the low IQ naysayers and evolved the overworld as the game and story progressed, but nope. Will never happen now. Oh, and every expansion having two or three "Timeless Isles" just cheapens the whole concept.

>>712802435
>why would the naval warfare RTS with set a decade later follow a different plot from the movie
lol

>>712802435
>stopped reading there
oh so you realized you had NO chance of critiquing the rest?
Got filtered THAT easily?

>>712802551
I don't care about some random, crappy licensed game that was written by a liberal arts faggot. Explain how the film diverges from the source material significantly, as you claimed it did.

>>712802603
I have a retard filter attached to my brain at all times. Anytime something retarded comes towards me it catches it. So you are the one who has been filtered. Cawadooty faggot.

>>712802617
You cared quite a bit when you were confident you could guess the story.
But the moment you find out the story doesnt have anything to do with treasure island suddenly you dont care, hmmmmmmm?

>>712802684
I know that isnt true because you wouldnt be able to read your own name.

>>712802772
>But the moment you find out the story doesnt have anything to do with treasure island
Is Jim Hawkins in it?
>I know that isnt true because you wouldnt be able to read your own name.
Stop replying to posts that weren't directed towards you.

Redditors and 4channers only hate PvP multiplayer games because they're shit at them

>>712802835
>characters from the previous franchise CANNOT be used or its just the SAME story!
desperate, are we?

>>712802891
Why would you waste your time playing the same shit over and over again? You're just clicking certain points on the screen over and over.

>>712802923
You said it has "NOTHING" to do with Treasure Island. Care to retract that statement and admit defeat, then? Also, you sound like an idiot when you refer to Robert Louis Stevenson's work as a "franchise" as if it is a McDonald's restaurant or something.

>>712803009
Look, I get you are a salty faggot who is desperately grasping for straws.
But come on dude.
>its just treasure island because they made a game based off the end of the sci fi movie where the kid gets into the naval academy
is some WEAK shit.
I should not be able to filter you this hard with an obscure RTS game made to cash in on a kids movie.

>>712803112
Just answer a simple question, faggot. Was your claim that the game has NOTHING to do with Treasure Island true or false? That's all you have to do. Stop dodging the question like a weasel.

>>712802094
Thats just a lie.

>>712802941
How is that any different to posting on 4chan?

>>712803183
Yeah, it was true.
The events of that book have nothing to do with the story of the game.
Jim Hawkings is all grown up, a jr. naval officer, and is dealing with something else entirely.

>>712803228
>how is talking to people different from clicking points on a screen

>>712802260
Everyone in EQ hated him.

>>712803278
You didn't answer my question. Thread is entering the 99% auto filtered shitskin NPC section of the board. Please speak to each other now. Reply if you want but I won't be here.

>>712803264
Woah, woah, hold on kiddo.
>Jim Hawkings
Have you even read Treasure Island? It's Jim Hawkins. Unless you're saying that the protagonist of this game is an entirely new, original character named Jim Hawkings. Is that true? Your new claim is that Jim Hawkings is a new, separate character?

>>712803349
>NOOOOOOOO they used a NAME
awwww poor baby got filtered by a name
if you crash out over just one title, how are you gonna cover
COD modern warfare 2 story,
bioshock,
dying light,
dragon age origins,
mass effect OG,
outer wilds
prototype OG
Morrowind
40k Rogue Trader

you are COOKED lmao

>>712803429
Just answer the question. Does your little game, of which you have yet to describe what precisely makes it well written, follow the story of Jim Hawkins or an original character named Jim Hawkings? Which one is it?

>>712803485
>name a game and I will laugh at its story
>uh..... that game has the story of the movie its based on!
>uhhhhhhhhhh the story is the same anyways because it has the same character!
>uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh YOU tell ME the story so I can critique it!

but anon?
I thought I just had to name the game and you would laugh at the story?
What's wrong?
Why are you struggling so much?

Dark Souls 2 is great, the majority of people who disagree have been told so by “muh heckin video essays” and are unable to form their own opinions. The inverse of this applies to Fallout NV. It is good, but it is not the 10/10 that people have been brainwashed into believing because of a 12 hour YouTube video delivered by someone who sounds confident about it.

The Last of Us is serviceable at best. It only has the reputation it does because it was very impressive for a PS3 game. It does not hold up to modern scrutiny and consists of several tedious and repetitive set-pieces. The story is nothing original and the gameplay is boring. The Walking Dead tells the same core story in a better, snappier and more interesting way.

At their core, Nintendo make games for literal children. What people refer to as ‘pure’ gameplay is because the games are barebones experiences for kids. It’s not some bold design philosophy. The company has not truly innovated in gameplay mechanics since the Wii and the last first party game they released that showed any of that classic Nintendo style magic was Mario Galaxy.

Mass Effect 3 was never as bad as people made it out to be. By that point more people were online and able to be swayed by the mob more easily. Also, Mass Effect 1 is far and away a better and more interesting game than ME2.

Helldivers 2 is Reddit.

Stellar Blade is a solid 7 out of 10 at best, boosted only by artificial hype and gooners. At times it’s actually quite boring.

Skyrim is the best WRPG ever made, in spite of its flaws. Mods do not improve it because it was already perfect.

Chrono Trigger is the best ‘traditional’ JRPG of all time. This is not the TRVKE, but what is, is that the genre has not improved or innovated in gameplay or storytelling since then. The move to realtime combat was borne out of necessity because there is nothing more that can be added to the formula and it had become stale by the end of the PS1’s life.

>>712803570
Tell me, what makes a story good and how does your Treasure Island game meet that standard?

>>712803692
>nooooooo stop remembering what I said!
Come on anon.
Critique the story of the GAME
not the movie. the GAME
YOU said I just needed to give you the name.

>>712803682
>have been told so by “muh heckin video essays”
You're not wrong that DS2 gets more hate than it deserves, and a lot of the negativity does seem parroted from big name essay faggot youtubers.
Imho it's the second best game of the DS trilogy right after DS1.

Monster Hunter's original fantasy was always about HUNTING monsters not just fighting them. Which is why they spend so much time worldbuilding the lore, environment, natural factors to show how the monster fits in. You see the shit in the cutscenes? That's the monster hunter the creator is working toward and every new game gets closer to that ultimate goal. It's actually amazing to see someone refine their product to its optimus.

No person who has ever attached a pepe, jak, chad or other highly regurgitated image next to their post has never, nor will ever have anything of value to say.

>>712803682
anon you dont need to bait with skyrim like that.

traps are gay

>>712803758
You still haven’t told me what makes your game well-written. Are you incapable of that?

>>712803963
I just like the fact that anons get mad when you pepe. It's like a red sign above the post that says "i'm joking around" and you get serious anyway.
A good pepe can convey that feeling you truly feel with a layer of irony so your opinion is more rationally consumed.

>>712803692
Anon, that faggot listed Dying Light and Protoype as examples of good Western storytelling. You’d already won before you even replied.

>>712804069
Because you haven't critiqued the game's story like you thought you could just via being given the name.
Are you incapable of that?
Why should I aim for the moved goalposts?

>>712804125
then critique the story.

>>712804149
I don’t know the game’s story. You are supposed to justify your claim, yet you don’t seem to be capable of that.

>>712802287
>he didn't play during wotlk so he doesnt know the actual gearscore numbers
Tourist.

>>712799214
Your truth nuke is a replica.

>>712804186
>You are supposed to justify your claim
you claimed you would critique the story based off of nothing BUT the name.
You are demanding more because you can't actually do it.
I accept your concession.

Someone should make a bundled set of filters so that this place is culture war free. Only then can this place be saved.

>>712804232
>you claimed you would critique the story
Can you quote the post where I did?

>>712803682
There isn't a single thing in DS2 that is great, much less the entire game. Maybe not being locked to 8 directions can be considered great if you're a fromdrone. World design, level design, plot and combat are all bad. What else is fucking there?

>>712798813 (OP)
/v/ makes fun of storyfags but the majority of discussion is about single-player storyfag games
If they cared about gameplay as much as they pretended then they would all be playing multiplayer

I finished Elden Ring and the DLC. But after doing an entire straight run from Demon's Souls to Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro in prep for Elden Ring I'm a little..not as hyped for the same? Might just be time to pick up another series or something.

>>712804235
the discord troons would freak out when they realized their own bullshit would be filtered as welll

>>712804268
>>712801887
>if you disagree name one
ohhhhhhh admitting defeat already?
gearing up to cry about semantics because you got tripped up by the FIRST thing I thought of?

>>712804340
>If you disagree with me then name one and I will laugh in your face.
I already did laugh in your face. That is what LMAO meant.

>>712804389
so you can't find anything wrong with the story?

>>712804448
I haven’t read it. Tell me what made you call it a good story.

>>712799897
But they already do copy games. You may not consider the games they're copying good, but that's a (You) problem.

>>712804518
>anon is helpless. all he has is the entire internet
so you can't find anything wrong with the story?

>>712804576
You made the claim that it was a good story, therefore the onus is on you to back that claim up.

>>712804614
oh so you can't find anything wrong with the story?
I win!

>>712798813 (OP)
Call of Duty isn’t just alive , it’s thriving. It draws in ten times more players than most top games see in an entire year, and when the next Call of Duty drops, the cycle starts all over again. SAD but true.

>>712804640
You haven’t given me anything to talk about beyond the name of it. Looks like you’re stalling because you have nothing to backup your claim.

>>712802941
you've described basically every game in existence, you know?

>>712804681
>loser cries sour grapes
yeah yeah we already get it, you can't find anything wrong with the story.
I won, you're mad.

>>712804203
Correct, I didn't bother playing wrath because i'd already done naxx and I found the idea of rehashing an entire raid tier to be the laziest shit imaginable.

>>712804149
Dying Light is a fairly by-the-numbers story about shady governments and viral outbreaks. The core story of the man who turns on his employer to help the little people has been done a thousand times and done better.

Prototype is just “I never asked for this” with extra steps. There is nothing here that can’t be found in any good classic comic book.

Also the fact that you defaulted to MW2 over the vastly superior story of Black Ops also informs me that you are probably an idiot.

Please can you tell me why you thought Bioshock was well written? I think it is, but I’m curious about what you took away from it.

>>712798813 (OP)
7th gen was the worst console generation of all time and the current state of video games is a significant improvement.

>>712804746
I have yet to hear how any of that was bad.
Can you not find anything wrong with those games either?

>>712803963
Contradiction. Suppose you posted a pepe pointing at a sign texted, "Trvth nuke"? Your very post stating no one who ever posted a pepe had anything meaningful to tell?

>>712803682
Retarded babble nvke

>>712804731
Is that all you’ve got. So you think 5e game is well written because it just is?

>>712804746
I didn't play black ops, anon.
I cannot talk good for a game I didn't play.
I don't see whats relevant about comics with prototype either. this is about games.
dying light was more of a gut feel because I wanted to see where that other guy would go with it, but he got tard yarded by treasure planet

Its been a while for bioshock...
The betrayal is foreshadowed but hidden enough to catch a lot of more naive people.
The story of Rapture itself is of a madman finding out his ideals did not take into account humanity itself, which is a good theme.
You constantly play as a man trapped and bound to one thing or another, and ultimately the biggest freedom is gained not for you, but for the people you save and give a future to in the good ending.
I like all of that, but at the same time they gave you a limited chance to go down the same route of greed and short term gain every one else in rapture did, and a full on story end that reflects that.

Its been more than a decade since I went over the story, so that is pulled from my ass.

>>712805096
I think you are too stupid to look up the story, and thus deserve to be stuck arguing in circles about how you "didn't lose" like the tard you are.

>>712798813 (OP)
Hating popular things does not make you an interesting person, nor does it make you seem more intelligent to others

Sony's most valuable asset isnt its games but its marketing. Playstation would be in a dire situation if it wasnt for gaming media/journalism running defense for them and handing out high review scores for their games that are, to be honest, mediocre and the prime examples of style over substance. Sony weaponizes their loyal cultish console warring fanbase and its been working since the 90's.

>>712798925
You're right, but for the wrong reasons.
Wrath introduced dungeon finder and that was the first stone paving the way to modern wow hell.

>>712804012

>>712802108
You can always trust an American to sweep in, corporatise something, suck all the life out of it in the name of profits and move on when it’s dead.

Only thing I will disagree with you on is your stance on MP lobbies. Unfiltered interaction was a lot of fun for MP games. The move to private group chats or talking in Discord was very damaging for the often hilarious community interactions. I agree there was too much MP focus though.

>>712799165
Fact

>>712805190
Just tell me one thing you like about it.

Fromslop was never hard, modern gamers are just casuals and suck at video games.

Hollow Knight was average at best and the hype for the sequel is a meme parroted by chronically online trans kids and Redditors who never beat the first game

MP died after 2010

white knuckle is an allegory for the tran.ny creator's impending suicide and futile attempt to escape it

Hating things doesn’t make you cool.

>>712805703
I like how it shows a young man struggling to live up to his own ideals of what an adult should be and I liked the journey of going from being nearly helpless to a genuine threat to everything else in the game's setting.

>>712798891
It's just a bunch of quirky gays and troons that support those games

4chans quality will increase by 500% the day someone comes up with a way to filter images instead of just text

>>712805895
> I like how it shows a young man struggling to live up to his own ideals of what an adult should be
So anything that details that scenario is automatically good?

>>712805962
>shit nobody said
what a desperate L O S E R lmao

>>712806013
I quoted you directly.

>>712805929
grandpa moment

>>712805893
Vtrannies aren't real women, in front of or behind the screen.

>>712806034
Desperate L O S E R can't even remember what they just wrote

>>712806078
I just asked you a question. Stop dodging all the time.

>>712805893
explain the entire punk movement

>>712806106
>L O S E R is too stupid to understand the answer was given

>>712806127
A proto-woke pseudo-rebellion that only served to demoralize the West. Not the Vtranny poster.

>>712806181
Just give a yes or no answer, you /b/tard.

I stopped playing PvP games because its communities are sore winners as well as sore losers who sap enjoyment regardless of the outcome.
The only ways to enjoy solo pvp games is to ethier be a sore winner yourself who operates at the weakest form of competition (punching down) or to shut off the retards and focus only on competing with your pevious best, at which point you might as well play sp games.

Pvp have no socials lefts its all egoing in a ratrace to be the next esports meme. To get money off social media.
Pvp has become Hustling.

>>712806260
>name a game
>NO NOT LIKE THAT!
>answer my question
>NO NOT LIKE THAT!
Luh WHO
Suh HER

>>712806213
yet they are considered cool for the sole reason of rebellion aka hating shit

>>712806342
I am not a mind reader, ESL anon. You just weasel around like a retard whenever you’re pressed to answer a question. Such embarrassing, feminine behaviour.

>>712806396
>yet they are considered cool for
Demoralizing the youth the same way the hippies did a decade before, yes.

>>712799768
that is just basic /v/ behavior...where is the nuke?

>>712806427
>You just weasel around like a retard
Projection from a L O S E R who can't even critique ONE games story
>Such embarrassing, feminine behaviour.
incel rage over being a L O S E R

>>712800124
only if you play genshin, wuwa, zzz, star rail, fromsoft, nintendo...

>>712800172
western indie slop is no batter, most of these are cheap copies of metroidvania, harvest moon, diablo, soulslikes, roguelikes, deck builders, numbers go up, twitch FOMOs... there's almost zero fucking originality or risk involved.

>>712806531
I have answered all of your questions directly, you accusing me of being a weasel is laughable. I also reported you for avatarfagging, so enjoy your three day ban.

>>712799897
>Stop making ps1/pixelshit for fucks sake

Where's your game, anon?

>>712800124
based
the amount of indiekino I played during the steam next fest redoubled my love for vidya

>>712806610
>accusing me of being a weasel is laughable. I also reported you
Nta but come on you have to see admitting that is bitchmade behavior

>>712806610
>I am such a L O S E R that I will break the rules
you are the one refusing to critique the story of a game.

>>712806784
I despise people like you who think enforcing rules is some kind of affront. You’re like my neighbours who cry every time I call the police on them for their loud music and/or illicit drugs.

>>712806060
Thank you for proving my point.
>>712806127
They are the exception to the rule.

>>712806127
man, I miss when punk was about hating fat people and jews, now it's all faggot cringeshit

>>712806784
I find it hilarious that a mere 3 ace ventura images got under his skin so much...
wait.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAH

>>712806837
You just said it’s great because it’s a coming of age story yet you then denied that such a cliche makes a story good. So you are running in circles trying to justify your contradictory beliefs.

>>712806867
>Thank you for proving my point.
I'm not hating, just stating a fact. That anime girl isn't going to materialize in your room, no matter how much money you donate to some dude with a voice-changer app.

>>712806923
Avatarfagging is against the rules.

>>712805819
the voice of that dude doing the voice over announcement system makes my skin crawl, I hate when trannies try to sound like women it activates a primal disgust within me

>>712805110
>I didn't play black ops, anon.
I cannot talk good for a game I didn't play.
I don't see whats relevant about comics with prototype either.

So you concede that you have limited frames of reference and potentially broader reading comprehension issues and therefore do not have the qualifications to speak as an authority on what makes a well written story?

Fallout 76 is good now

>>712806972
…I didn’t think she was? You’re delusion my dude.

>>712804757
for sony maybe, they did hit rock bottom in terms of reputation during ps3 era for being greedy bastards, gained a lot of good will during ps4 gen but right now with all this service crap and almost zero 1st party output that good will is going to dry up fast, lucking for them they have no real competition left in hardware space. for nintendo it got absolutely better, switch was a major success and switch 2 will break all records not to mention wii library is pretty shit. xbox as a brand is basically dead, they bought tons of studios and are effectively the largest third party publisher in the world but considering game quality I'd say x360 was their golden age especially for forza, gear and halo.

>>712807086
Correct.

>>712806924
you asked for one thing, I gave you two, and you decided to stuff words in my mouth because you had no way to actually critique it.
peak L O S E R behavior.

>>712807003
you don't know what avatar fagging is.
>>712807007
>freaking out so hard he can't even greentext
>desperately looking to avoid having to critique anything by crying over me playing zombies instead of the campaign of ONE game.
I dropped COD because I got away from console gaming. sorry that it triggers you.

>>712807005
>I hate when trannies try to sound like women it activates a primal disgust within me
Same, its kinda like that thig when they try to put on a female smile but can't do it so they just look awkward and retarded

>>712807091
>I didn’t think she was?
The question mark implies you're unsure of yourself. You feeling okay?
>You’re delusion
Guess not, since you're second-guessing your very senses, including the text you're reading on a screen.

>>712806778
name couple of games you liked pls

>>712807086
Only good Fallout games nowadays are fallout 2 fangames made by eastern europeans

>>712807214
…??? Are you okay? What the hell are you even talking about?

>>712807161
> you don't know what avatar fagging is.
I do, that’s why I reported you.
> you asked for one thing, I gave you two, and you decided to stuff words in my mouth
No, I asked you if your reason for liking it could be applied universally, and you said no. So the reasons you gave are not your reasons for liking it, as you would not like those same qualities on another game.

Counter Strike is anti fun
Kojima is a bad writer, a bad executive, and a bad game designer.
GTA is shit and Rockstar has made 1 good game (Midnight Club Street Racing). They are easily the most overrated developer ever.
Super Paper Mario is a great game
Mario 64 is great except for the camera and controls which make it unplayable.
The Horizon games are fun.
DMC3 is the only worthwhile game in the series.
Fallen Order/Survivor is the only good rollslop
I don't care if games are woke as long as they're fun and well made/written.

>>712806865
It's that you need to brag about relying on authority to fix your problems, not about enforcing the rules.
>Loud music
Unless its constant who gives a shit? If anything its a sign the area's housing is shit if its that easy to overhear. I have to live near compulsively loud people all the time.

>>712807308
>DmC and Detroit
>”I like more than most”
Please explain.

>>712807295
>blah blah blah IM A SORE L O S E R
you don't know what avatar fagging even is and you didn't even know you broke the rules until after we laughed at you.
You then panicked and deleted the post.
L O S E R behavior.

You have had the entire internet at your fingertips and you still cannot figure out how to critique one game.

>>712807283
Originally, I was talking about you simping for a dude who changes his face and voice with AI to earn money from simps. Then you showed signs of uncertainty with both your internal and external world, so I'm guessing that little reminder was enough to shatter your paper-thin grasp on reality.

>>712807320
>relying on authority to fix your problems
That is what they are there for. That’s like saying I “rely” on a wrench to remove a bolt. Very childish way of looking at the world.
> Unless it’s constant who gives a shit?
Me, and that is all that matters. Don’t break the law and I won’t call the police.

>>712807440
> you don't know what avatar fagging even is
Already explained it, you’re just coping. I didn’t delete it either the janitor who gave me a warning for announcing reports did.

>>712807235
>project turboblast
>texnoplazm
>dead as disco
>sinker sound
>aeromachina
>pigface
>easy delivery co
>zakon
>everdeep aurora
>ratatan

>>712807569
So you got in trouble and I didn't?
Almost like I wasn't avatar fagging, L O S E R.
We are still just on the first game I mentioned, too.

>>712807503
Ahhh, I see, I see. You’re just a delusional fuckface with his or her head up their own ass. Stop rambling about nothing.

>>712807651
Janitors can’t ban people. They only mute and give warnings. Just wait until the mods get here.
So tell me why you liked the Treasure Island computer game? You mentioned the coming of age story, but then you don’t looks that in other games. So what specific qualities made you like it?

>>712807731
>a delusional fuckface
I'm not the one who thinks men can be women.

>>712807737
I got no warnings because I didnt avatar fag, L O S E R
>stop laughing at me and tell me the game I said could critique!
I was nice and gave you two things and you couldn't even handle THAT without freaking out and getting warned.
You would probably be permabanned if you ever figured out how to look up the plot yourself

>>712798813 (OP)
The death of the MMORPG genre was a slow poisoning from a combination of the top guilds of Everquest getting too much say in the development of the game before WoW took over and the rise of social media thoughbeit

>>712807737
>but then you don’t looks that in other games.
didn't this idiot accuse the other guy of ESL earlier?

>>712807825
You did. The mods will ban you when they log on.
You told me two things but when pressed on whether or not you actually liked them you immediately caved and said you actually don’t like those qualities universally. Now you’re just running in circles like a weasel.

>>712807508
Im saying passively aggressive remarks that you are using a wrench to remove a bolt is the retarded weasel behavior and you yourself got punished for breaking the boards laws for your own ego.
Unless attempts at reasoning with the dipshit neighbour failed and its the only option, calling the police on such trivial matters just makes you dependant, while wasting time that could be spent on actual crimes.

>>712807983
>ur in big trouble anon!
I don't think you even know how this place works.
>you actually don’t like those qualities universally.
full on schizo behavior
What a sad weasel L O S E R

>>712807997
>full on ESL rant
weasel-anon, what the fuck is wrong with you?
You are throwing a massive fit and breaking the rules.

>>712807997
That is an actual crime. It is not my duty to correct the neighbour, the duty is on the police. The police exist to enforce the law, I have no authority to enforce the law. You’re pretending I do for some reason. If someone breaks the law you use the tool that exists to correct the behaviour, which is the police. It is not a waste of time to have the police carry out the law. That is an insane thing to say. I have had multiple neighbours arrested for possessing marijuana after I reported them, so obviously it is not a waste.
>>712808043
>ad hom
The classic concession. Thanks for the laugh, retard.

>>712808130
why are you randomly ranting about HOA's and freaking out about your own lawless behavior, Weasel-anon?
this is a videogames board.

>>712804203
I played back then, and even I can't remember that bullshit.

>>712808195
What the fuck does HOA mean?

>>712799768
>Starcraft was never good and only made popular by bug men.
Starcraft is an amazing game even if you only play the singleplayer campaign.

>>712808130
are you a broken spambot or something, weasel-anon?

>>712808331
You already conceded, Treasure Island boy.

>>712808415
No, you did, L O S E R
you crashed out and got warned by the jannies as well for it.

>>712808458
No, you did. See >>712808130
Now go back to your mother’s cancerous teat.

>>712807308
|worst DMC is the only worthwhile in the series|

It's ok for cazzies to enjoy their slop

>>712808491
I don't need to leave just because a weasel L O S E R is crashing out.
I thought the mods were gonna get me, anon?
Where are they?
Where is my warning?
Where is your critique of the FIRST of many games I listed?
Do I need to speak your subhuman language, (बहनचोद?

>>712802107
Treasure planet is literally based on treasure island you dunce

>>712808731
this is about the game.
not the movie. stay out of the tard fight.

>>712808709
tldr. Fuck off, you conceded.
>>712808731
It apparently is a game about someone named Jim Hawkins, not Jim Hawkins, and therefore has nothing to do with Treasure Island. At least according to that Indian bloke who loved Jim Carrey.

>>712808913
Weasel anon, you lost long before you gaslit yourself into this line of thinking.
peak (बहनचोद behavior, except yours wont even let you.

>>712808981
I’m not reading your posts, ranjeet.

older games weren't that much better, here why
>you only remember the good ones
>you were more forgiving
>life was simpler and more fun therefore you enjoyed it more
>so when you replay it you are reminded of that time
>genres weren't saturated so everything felt new and interesting

>>712809025
you just did, weasel-jeet
>Indian bloke
so you ARE a pajeet?
London pajeets are still pajeets

>>712809028
The top 10 games of the 80s or 90s are better than the top 10 games of the 00s or 10s.

>>712809075
You already conceded. Why are you still crying?

>>712809140
you already L O S T, why are you still crying, weasel-jeet?
You couldnt even critique ONE game.
Out of a list of more than 6.

>>712798813 (OP)
>>712798925
>>712805528
You're all wrong. WoW is shit because life is shit, hard to find joy in anything when every fucking game is the same shit every release. Nobody innovates because they're too terrified too, rather they release the same COD shooter every 8 months or an MMO thats been in development for 10+ years (looking at you riot) quietly gets cancelled because the talent just doesnt exist out there to make such a game.

>>712809206
I accepted your concession, you can just fuck off now.

>>712809232
I accepted your L O S S, weasel jeet, and you are still here.
You can't even move onto the next game!
so pathetic, no wonder your sister won't even touch you!

>>712809232
>>712809206
>>712809140
stop samefagging eric

>>712798813 (OP)
KCD2 is genuinely a great game with only Musa being a downside, everything else is standard since the 2000s
Darksiders II shits all over any Zelda game ever released
Oblivion is better than Skyrim and Morrowind
Resident Evil 5 is better than Resident Evil 4
RE4make is objectively better than RE4 OG
RE0 is better than RE1make
RE1make is a downgrade from RE1, atmosphere wise
MGS2 is the best MGS game, followed by V
Deus Ex HR has actually good writing
Deus Ex MD isn't woke nor has any BLM messaging ( play the game to find out why )
STALKER Clear Sky is good and shouldn't be skipped
Sekiro is mediocre parryslop with shit level design
E33 is everything wrong with video games in 2025
DMC3 is a mediocre downgrade from DMC1
DMC5 is the best DMC game
Nintendo games are overrated trash made for journocasuals
the last good console was the PS2

>>712809301
nah, me and weasel jeet are our own brand of special.

>>712809289
TLDR.
>>712809301
I spilled coffee on myself, Eric. Are you going to fire me?

>>712809348
>L O S E R is so mad he is spilling coffee and cannot figure out how to do anything but reply
I win for Treasure Planet Battle at Procyon, CONFIRMED!
Next game, weasel.

>>712809427
It’s an Eddy Guerrero quotation, kid. It’s from before your time.

>>712809474
>WWE
I dont watch fake sports like a L O S E R, weasel boy.
I WIN for TPBaP
next game, L O S E R.
You said to name them, I named them, you L O S T the first one and got warned by jannies while also freaking out over your own fucked up life.
Next game.

>>712809602
It was from WCW, you dumb kid.

>>712809309
May as well just sink the entire boat while you are at it.

>>712808130
>I have had multiple neighbours arrested for possessing marijuana after I reported them, so obviously it is not a waste.
Confirms all I need to know. You are a soulless parasite who erodes goodwill and trust in communities to enjoy the power trip they feel off punishing irrelevant crimes, because relying on nanny state and hiding behind them over any inconvenence and having them take the blame is the easy option while you are too lazy to attempt convincing some retard to tone it down or even bother looking up the lame story of some faggots mid game. Claiming that the most milquetoast basic-bitch option of drugs, less harmful than numerous legal alteratives, as justification only further proves you are a monstrous snivelling fag who never questions why these laws are actually in place. Baffled at small-town corruption while actively reveling in the consequences of corrupt laws that seek only to punch down.

You have the mentality of a washed up elder who complains and ruins situations because they can and its all they have left with nobody shedding a tear when you die.

>>712808130
Shut up weasel faggot

>>712809658
Nobody cares about all the divisions of your fake sport.
WWE is as good as any other abreviation, L O S E R, and that literal who was in the WWE as well.

>>712809682
in short, a L O S E R mentality, right?

>>712809734
I don’t care, I never watched WWF. Just WCW.
>>712809682
You think the law erodes goodwill and trust and not psychoactive drugs? Are you from Central America or something?

>>712809816
>L O S E R can't even spell WWE right, uses a different abbreviation, proving my point right
another WIN for me!

>>712809860
It will always be WWF.

>>712809682
>less harmful than numerous legal alteratives
It causes schizophrenia. Stop defending nigger tier shit.

>>712809816
>You think the law erodes goodwill and trust and not psychoactive drugs?
this is not the thinking of a human.
this "person" does not live in the real world.

>>712809954
anon, the guy complaining about drugs seems far more schizo all on his own.
weak argument to make in this context, even if I normally would agree.

>>712810001
Why should you get a free pass to use a psychoactive drug and ruin the safety of my town? Dumb criminal.

>>712807616
>easy delivery co
looks comfy, I'll try it, I like how it mixes ETS2 with low poly ps one graphics.
>everdeep aurora
this one also looks interesting. did you play arx fatalis?

>>712810086
Aren't you ruining the safety of your town?
You can't even follow the rules HERE, dumb criminal.
You are a lawbreaker and law abuser.

>>712805750
trve

>>712810146
No, because I don’t traffic or possess psychoactive drugs. All I want is for the law to be enforced and for law breakers to be executed.

>>712810270
>law breakers to be executed.
LMAO
So you are just a full on psychopath who wants ILLEGAL murder to happen
Ok, freak!

>>712810346
No, I want the police to use their authority to legally kill drug users.

>>712798925
WoTL was where WoW peaked. Post legion was it's downfall.

>>712798813 (OP)
Video games are to achievement what porn Is to sex. A cheap and easy substitution people chase for a quick and diminishing dopamine hit.

Resident Evil Remake 2 and REmake 4 are the best games in the franchise. No ammout of crying about "old good new bad" will change that.

>>712810403
police arent legally allowed to kill people for using drugs, you psychotic rule breaker.
that's murder.
you are really just a nazi dreaming of murdering people you don't like, but you don't even have the spine to imagine yourself doing it.
fuck off to /pol/ nazi

>>712810453
Can you name 10 worthwhile achievements in life?

>>712810481
They can in my country.

>>712798813 (OP)
Older games, particularly those from the mid 90s to the mid 00s were, in fact, far better than what we have today. People disagree because of sunk cost fallacies regarding their 500+ games libraries full of titles that they will totally 100% play one day and not be left there to gather digital dust.

>>712810569
in your turd world pajeetland?
name it.

>>712810501
Nta but fucking Daisy is one of them

>>712810608
Indonesia. We have less pajeets than the US, Britain, Australia, Canada, or the West Indies.

>>712809309
>Darksiders II shits all over any Zelda game ever released
true. very underrated game. first one is also great zelda/soul reaver clone. the rest of your takes are retarded.

>>712809954
Overdose and usage before full development does correct
Meanwhile smoking and alcohol also damages full development, the former damages others lungs and nervous systems while the latter significantly increases the rate of violence and fatal accidents.
>Advocates for death penalty
I pray you are a troll and not the most bootlicking serf of mutts to exist.
You are a golem, the Ai replacing you will be merely an upgrade.

>>712810675
thats only for large scale trafficking of drugs lmao
you are a psycho who doesn't even understand your own shithole's laws.
no wonder you fucked up even the basic rules on 4chan and got spanked for breaking them

>>712798813 (OP)
Remakes are almost universally better games and more fun than their originals.

>>712810765
How come every drug defender constantly complains about the dangers of alcohol and tobacco? That doesn’t help your case, it helps mine. I think those things should be illegal too.
>>712810767
Indonesia != Bali
Stupid Aussie faggot.

>>712810501
> 10 achievements in life
Create something that you or other people enjoy x10

>>712810879
If I find 10 fart fetishists and fart for them does that make me a winner?

>>712810871
>turd worlder gets mad and babbles about random provinces
no one cares, psycho.
you couldn't even critique the video games, and now I guess we know why.
you live in a shithole and couldnt play them or something.

>>712810957
Name your country.

>>712811171
The US of A, bitch.

>>712811171
>I can already feel the incoming seethe about american superiority

>>712811263
>>712811275
>Amerimutt
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>712811324
>doesnt even have video games
>pretends he is superior
called it

>>712811275
t. JaMarquias Rodriguez

>>712811379
Sorry, nothing that far south in my genetics.
I am so white I act as a passive shield for any latinos around me, the ICE agents averting their gaze.

>>712798813 (OP)
Wow vanilla killed partying and dungeons. So it was definitely wow vanilla, it at the very least started the decline.

>>712810936
It makes you the kind of chud who gets triggered by my truth nvke. Thanks for playing.

>>712811372
>this is the guy telling you that Cawwadooty has a great story

The same group of trannies spamming femboy shit on every multiplayer game are the same trannies making Deltarune, TurtleWoW, Rune Factory, and Terraria threads. Notice how trannies are mostly on free-to-play games.

racial segregation was a morally good thing and we should return to it

>>712811498
modern warfare 2 had a good story.
the franchise in general doesnt.
Sorry you had to seethe over being a sad little indonesian L O S E R

>>712798813 (OP)
>>712798925
Wow was shit because it never moved on from Diablo mechanics. The only thing saving it was the 3D open world itself.

>>712811458
>Wow vanilla killed partying
This is so wrong. Playing solo was much slower.

>>712811454
> I am so white
Pure Bavarian phenotype?

>>712811528
America is too mixed for that.

>>712811601
the usual irish scottish mix with a bit of the german that mixed into that british.
even italy is too far south.

>>712811674
You must be rare, then. The US is only 12% white according to the latest census.

>>712804340
>the discord troons
Are they in your walls?

>>712811781
I doubt it.
Most cenus's are more fucked than you think because people try to game them via the line of questioning.
I have run into a few random ones that were supposedly for everyone but discarded your answers if you turned out to be latino.

>>712811826
He’s American, he would hear them if they were in his cardboard walls.

>>712811862
It should be censuses, not census’s. Even if the apostrophe was appropriate it would be census’.

>>712799768
You had mostly good opinions, a few outliers but mostly good.
Then I read this:
>Video-games, especially JRPG, should have AI models included so you can have conversations with your party members or other NPC. This includes forming relationships.
You are just another retarded zoomer. Your generation is the start of the end of humanity and the beginning into the future that the movie idiocracy predicted.

MMOs suck when they try to appeal to the Chinese and Korean audience. Their idea of fun is entirely different than ours. This makes people lose western players, but a gamble of an attempt to attract eastern players.

>>712811961
I don't care. not having to type formally and relax is a luxury turd worlders cannot afford because you sad fucks judge each other based on how well you speak MY language.

also I did misspeak, and the census I ran into only was accepting info from people who WERE latinos.

>>712800650
>RTS "died"
the real truth is it never died. it steadily grew and is still growing. it's just that other genres grew so much more in such shorter time, that in comparison it looked dead

>>712812067
Do Americans speak English? I thought it was Spanish or Portuguese.

>>712812136
>seething turdie cope

>>712812196
Not how quoting works.

>>712812235
>seething turdie doesn't even know what greentexting is
lurk moar, newfag turdie.

>>712812275
That’s a /b/ thing. Don’t use it here.

>>712798813 (OP)
/v/'s opinions are dogshit and this board is a joke

>>712798813 (OP)
1.There will never be another TORtanic. Stop trying to conjure one into existence.

2.If you actually care about console war shit you're on the same level as factory cattle.

3.If you hate how vidya is today there's over 40 years of games to play that are worth picking up and playing. Yes, even by your standards.

4. Every single problem with video games is downstream from the profit motive and corporate meddling. Not whatever schizo theory you've seen peddled here.

>>712812307
>seething turdie doesn't even know what they don't know
kek

>>712812353
Are you drunk, MaDariuquan?

>>712812515
is that what you do to hide the pain of being a turd worlder?

>>712812560
My country is better than the US.

>>712812515
>he doesn't know the phrase

>>712812615
>he says, using the american inventions on the american website to speak in the american language to the americans who's opinion he values.

>>712798813 (OP)
Liking popular things does not make you an interesting person and it doesn't signal that you're more mature than someone who looks at things critically. If you can't defend your opinions you never held real opinions to begin with. The default stance should ALWAYS be criticism unless proven otherwise, the reason for this is that the person selling something is trying to get your money from you, and there's an inherent conflict of interest there. The person being critical is only asking you to pause before parting with your money, which is an inherent act of good.

>>712812723
>Frogposter with a stupid take
Opinion Discarded!

>>712812694
This site was created using code from a Japanese site and is owned by a Japanese man. The World Wide Web is a British invention that was created in Switzerland.

>>712805558
>The move to private group chats or talking in Discord was very damaging for the often hilarious community interactions.
Well no one wants to get banned for calling their own friends a faggot because of nanny tier moderation. Women getting into the scene made it worse too since all they're good at is bitching for more censorship

>>712812626
>You dont know what you dont know means you dont know
English is a fascinating language isnt it

>>712810879
Trvth tsar bomba

>>712812807
explain how it's a stupid take or I'm just going to automatically accept your concession

>>712812851
>cope cope cope cope
made by an american hosted in america.
electricity and computers and the internet remain american inventions as well.

>>712812873
>means you dont know
no, it means you don't even know what things are beyond your grasp.
You can be aware of what things you don't know, but to not even be aware of what you don't know is a greater level of ignorance.

>>712812983
>Americans invented electricity

>>712798813 (OP)
Theres a few things wow vanilla killed in the mmo genre
>parties
>non-instanced dungeons
>resource management, especially on magic classes
>buff/debuff management, it started the trend of not being able to stack certain kinds of buffs and literally almost everything being short duration buff/debuffs that you use for “phases” like a burst phase or defending for a telegraphed attack
>introduced extremely rigid tank/dps/healer structure, less emphasis on mixed roles
>non-sterile utility
>non-linear gear progression
>equipment swapping

>>712810681
>t. zoomer

>>712812983
>electricity
Seriously nigger?

>>712812983
Electricity is naturally occurring, you fucking dumb mutt.

>>712812949
Easy, you're basically stating to be against shit just because. You felt for the "/v/ MUST be against everything ever!!" Meme.

>>712812983
>We what electricity n shit nigga

>>712798813 (OP)
Gmaing is just another decadent, hedonistic hobby for subhuman garbage.

>>712812983
Electricity?

>>712798891
Earthbound was successful so you're wrong.

>>712812983
Goddamn you’re an idiot.

>>712812983
>electricity
ameriGODS... I kneel

>>712814819
electric eels were invented immediately after ameriGODS invented electricity, insane...

>>712811980
>You are just another retarded zoomer. Your generation is the start of the end of humanity and the beginning into the future that the movie idiocracy predicted.
I'm so sick of characters having 3 lines that they can only repeat to infinity. Creating a model for the character, and having the AI respond as that character is ideal.

>>712813113
>>712813285
>>712813369
>>712813593
>>712814676
>>712814819
>turd worlds don't know what Benjamin franklin gave us
typical turd worlder L
if Americans didn't literally capture lightning in a bottle you dumb niggers would still be on steam power.

>>712811781
I wonder whatever happened to this kid.

>>712798891
Undertale and Deltarune are gay by virtue of their design, not because of their characters (which are also gay, both in execution and design).

>>712799165
Sonic was never good

>>712815032
Was Zeus American too?

>>712815170
anon... zeus was gay pagans trying to explain what lightning was and making up stories to shut their children up.

>>712813197
>Darksiders II did not meet sales expectations. While it was the top-selling game in the US in August 2012 with over 247,000 units sold, its total sales were estimated to be around 1.4 million copies as of November 2012, which was short of the 2 million units needed to break even for the publisher, THQ

>>712815032

>>712815413
no self portraits, please. I am not interested.
I know how thirsty you third worlders are for greencards now that walking across the border is out.

There are NO good jrpgs. None. Zero.

>>712798813 (OP)
Doom 64 is shit.

>>712815230
At least he wasn’t a mutt.

>>712815032
How did he capture lightning? I thought Americans invented it.

>>712815750
ancient greeks were bronze age mycenaean mutts mixed with anatolia, levant, and north africa.
sorry to burst your bubble, mutt.

>>712815821
he invented the use of electricity.
I forgot english is harder for you plebian turdies to understand.

>>712815821
>bumblefuck from whocaresistan doesn't have different words for lightning and electricity in his subhuman language
many such cases.

>>712815996
Isn’t lightning just electricity, though?

>>712816115
>isnt steel just carbon and iron?
Heavy is the burden of being the enlightened and educated first worlder amongst the muck.

>>712813114
vanilla wow does have linear gear progression. Just because chase items exist in earlier dungeons and raids doesn't mean it isn't linear

>>712816226
It’s literally just electricity, Ameritard.

>>712816552
if it was just electricity how come no one had electricity before Benjamin Franklin?
U S A
U S A
U S A

>>712798925
gearscore is just an early version of retails ilvl

>>712816682
Wasn’t he French or something? Or lived in France for long periods of his life?

>>712816241
Read the post again
>theres a few things vanilla wow killed
>non-linear gear progression

>>712816769
Benjamin was of english descent.
Thomas jefferson was the big francophile.
But only for OLD france before they became useless surrender monkeys obsessed with tantrums.
the last good contribution france attempted to make to the world was trying to send america the official kilograms.
Albion Perfidy saw privateers sink the ship.

>>712816839
oh my bad I did read it wrong.

>>non-linear gear progression
didn't everquest have similar gear design to vanilla wow?

>>712798925
>>712798813 (OP)
>>712809217
The entire appeal of MMORPGs was playing with millions of people, putting up with the most banal gameplay was the barter players made to have a fantasy chatroom. A bad game could only kill the genre if there was gameplay to ruin. The real death of MMOs was the iPhone and twitter.

>>712816941
Franklin was hiding in France during the secessionist war.

Presentation/aesthetic is 80% of any game.

>>712798813 (OP)
didn't TBC add a bunch of stuff to 1-60 areas?

>>712816769
He was an ambassador to france for a while.
easy way to avoid seething english post declaration of independence.
He returned to america a big damn hero.

>>712817123
which only makes sense. he was a BIG fucking name and just a civilian well past fighting age.
He helped keep france covering our ass as the upcoming champions of the world we rightly were.

>>712817205
>as the upcoming champions of the world we rightly were.
But between 1776 and 1943 you were basically irrelevant to global affairs.

>>712817325
>turdies don't even know
oh you poor uneducated hick
we were very relevant on the economic level before then, which is why everyone wanted control over us in the first place.
We were keeping things alive during ww1 and all throughout ww2 via trading.
The only reason russia managed to get ANYTHING done post WW1 is because americhads were giving them food, fuel, trucks, and steel. to let them zerg rush germany.

>>712817463
also the only reason the british didnt starve under the blitz, not discounting their own efforts with the commandos

I never played everquest but that game had expansions too didn't it? did they not do the exact same thing as wow expansions where they just increased the level cap and add stronger gear?

>>712817463
You gave supplies to the Soviet Union? What the fuck is wrong with you?

Why are we pretending the discovery of one person is the discovery of the nation of their nationality?
This is the sort of retard mentality that kills humanity as a whole. You are not thomas jefferson or benjamin just because you share their nationality.

>>712817005
He was comparing it to FFXI, were a higher level piece wasn’t necessarily better than a lower level one and gearswapping was a thing. Granted even though wow gear design was “similar” in design to Everquest everything else was what a standard modern mmo it just had less “convenience” and more grindy things.

>>712817668
If you look at it in a simple sense yes. But Everquest wasn’t a quest based progression mmo like WoW was from the beginning and there was a lot of less emphasis on solo. Theres also the class design standpoint. Vanilla Wow was just the beginning of the standard modern MMO and its the first mmo for a lot of people nowadays which makes it seem like the “nostalgia” bait. It came out around the time when a lot of millenials were in their teens and most of these never played mmos like ultima, everquest or ffxi

>>712817913
We were going to fuck them up after the germans but never got around to it.

>>712817913
>actually doesnt know this
Why wouldn't we?
Anon the heaviest german fighting and armor was on the soviet union side.
We used them as meat shields.
Hell, AMERICA was the ones who sold germany the resources it needed to BUILD its nazi army, prior to the war!

We used this to come out on top of everything after ww2 as the undisputed superpower the soviets could only larp as being after they got their hands on the atomic bomb due to our incompetent antispy measures.

>>712818075
also this.

>>712818075
You should have been supplying the White Army after the war like everyone else did. Arsehole.

>>712817463
>>712817913
>>712818075
>we
>you
Please shut the fuck up already

>>712818130
If you had supplied the White Army instead then the Soviet Union may have collapsed entirely before WW2 was even a thought.

>>712818176
>>712818250
Excellent point and I will concede on that front.
Might have been we were too busy trying to consolidate our gains.
The end of WW2 was effectively the end of large scale conquest (in the normal style) by the top level powers of the world, and we were the trendsetters for it.
I like to think america learned some right lessons in soft power after the war but learned the wrong way to implement them.
Not to mention the massive commie influence creeping into us by that point on top of internal problems from our racial issues.

>>712799768
>Anti-woke shit is cringe

>>712818191
No sowwy we're not abolishing group identities :3

W-world of warcraft?

>>712818539
At least you’re not denying that you are a moron

>>712798813 (OP)
vidya has been complete trash post-ps2

>>712799768
>Every Persona game is good if you completely mod out the conversations & story.
Lolno
The gameplay is a highly diluted version of smt with little care given to balance or difficulty.

>Iranian leaders keep getting killed despite hiding like insects in tunnels
no wonder the anti-americans are seething these days

Sexy girls in a game doesn't inherently make it good
Ugly girls doesn't inherently make it bad
Gameplay is what's actually important

>>712823120
NO FUCK YOU
MODS DESTROY THIS MAN

Dismissing pk ruined mmorpgs

>>712814451
Was it really? I thought it was a cult classic and that is by definition a game that sold poorly while being actually good harnessing a small but vocal fanbase.

>>712798813 (OP)
San Andreas was the first Saints Row game(derogatory).

>>712799142
Most indie devs couldn’t make and rig a 3d model to save their life. Pixel shit is easy to pump out by literally anyone.

>>712824806
>I had a summer internship as a 3D modeler and now I have ego problems.