Thread 712831268

Are we still winning famitsu brothers?
What do Jonathan Switchy and Olímpio think about this?

In America, their competitors are Netflix and AMC Theatres

>>712831268 (OP)
>>712831512
Eric you lost and got raped by Cacioppo

>>712831268 (OP)
Woah, the ftc feels the same way

>>712831268 (OP)
sonygroes got btfo so hard by nintendo they now don't even consider them competition

damn that’s the hardest cope I have ever seen this shit is on next level

I hate Genkai so much.

>>712831268 (OP)
Nintendo's business is so shit that they're not even on the radar!
Dat 31 > 8 'fraidaroo

>>712831268 (OP)
Good call, it was bad for company moral.

>>712831268 (OP)
They lies we tell ourselves.

Reminder that Sony used this argument in court and we're humiliated for it.

>>712831268 (OP)
>except for in Japan
But they're getting utterly raped in every hole in Japan, shouldn't it be the opposite?

>>712831552
You forgot Sony's greatest enemy: Youtube.

>>712831552
Sony sama please take Zelda to be your bride...

>>712832070
Saar please do the nintedful...

>>712832070
That was extremely funny. No wonder why Jim Ryan had to run for the hills. Between him going to courts all over the world to cry about Microsoft like a kid throwing a tantrum and Concord being the biggest media failure in all human history I'm surprised they didn't shoot him.

>>712831268 (OP)
It's Schroedinger's Nintendo.

To the courts: Nintendo is a huge and dangerous competitor they need to fight tooth and nail against.

To their investors: Nintendo isn't in the same market and its success doesn't impact Sony at all.

>>712832070
This too.

>tendies really don't play games
>they only care about their fantasy war with Sony to feel relevant
AAAIIIIEEEE

>Sony really doesn't have games
>they only care about what they can steal from Nintendo
ACK

>>712833223
at least tendies have games to play

>>712831268 (OP)
Oh really OP?

Why would a company that makes more from PSN in a year than Nintendo does in 5 care about their competition? I genuinely don't think either company has any real animosity anymore

>>712833930
What they're really worried about is the lost revenue from free to play games.

>>712831268 (OP)
well yeah, they are in different markets. no one in the market for gta, cod, or most of the big game of the year contenders is going to buy a switch. you buy it for the bing bing wahoo and you buy a playstation(or pc if you're smart) for everything else. it's not a competition despite how much fanboys want to pretend it is. sony completely dominated the home console market. it's a dying market but sony pushed out both nintendo and microsoft.

>>712834431
>it's a dying market but sony pushed out both nintendo and microsoft.
then why did they sell less than switch?

>>712831268 (OP)
Sony senpai don't say those things!

>>712831268 (OP)
Based take actually, they're right

>>712834503
because the switch is a handheld.

>>712831268 (OP)
Reminder they admitted Nintendo is a competitor put of massive desperation to stop MS from buying Activision and the judge just laughed.

>>712834580
handheld/console hybrid*

>actually we don't see them as competition so we're not getting blown the fuck out
kek

>>712831268 (OP)
>la la la I can't hear you la la la Nintendo doesn't exist la la la

Buckbroken as fuck

>>712834632
the handheld aspect holds it back and that's why it doesn't get the same games. it's why it's not competition. if you want to argue that handhelds are destroying home consoles right now that's a separate and very valid argument. but pretending it's a home console is not true, nintendo got pushed out from making home consoles after the wii u.

>>712833930
>posts a screenshot of a question
Don't let Olímpio know what's the answer, his life depends on Nintendo's imaginary wins over PS!

>>712831721
I think the argument is this:
1. Businesses have different domains.
2. PlayStation's domain is not the same as the Switch/Wii, etc.
3. PlayStation is performing far greater in it's domain than Nintendo's platform, while Nintendo's platform is performing far greater in it's own domain.

Kind of like how Windows can never really be challenged in the corporate office domain, but it can be challenged in the home and mobile, which are different domains.

I'm not a snoy, but the argument does make sense. Sony really can't compete in the nostalgia, low-power handheld, children's market. While Nintendo can't compete in the hardware/software market. Those who are interested in performance and aren't poor go PC anyways.

They literally do not compete with nintendo ever since dropping vita

Implying otherwise is retarded, every single decision and change they've made were focussed on countering microsoft

>>712834174
They don't but tendies are mentally ill, you know the rest.

>>712835193
whats the answer, eric?

>>712835236
This is fine, but the problem is that Sony suddenly treats Nintendo as competition whenever it's convenient for them. It's the flip flopping that makes them look pathetic.

>>712835463
The no games switch 2 is shit, you need a PS5 to get a great experience on big screens.
Something like that.

>>712831268 (OP)
oh nononono

>>712835696
nope, definitely wasnt the answer. try again

>>712835702
>>712835784
31 >8

>>712831268 (OP)
They’ve basically accepted that Nintendo has taken a part of the market and won't even try to go after it.

what is blud on about

>>712835784
It was, cope, Olímpio.

>>712836135
>PS5 is designed for an immersive gaming experience, and this includes the innovative DualSense controller features as well," he says. "We believe PS5-level performance is required to achieve a great experience on big screens. And in this way, we have provided a unique offering for players and creators in this current console generation."

nope, doesnt look like it

>>712835609
Sony treats them as competition when they are in direct competition. Asking the ps4 to compete with the switch is like asking HBO to compete for disney adults attention, they aren't even remotely the same audience. Their handhelds were competing for the same children as the DS so they had to be treated as such.

I think its a mistake for Sony to completely abandon children and it will fuck them in the near future, the ps2 and ps1 were still objects of desire for 9 year old kids, nobody under 16 wants a ps5 and once youre over 18 you realise that console gaming is for retards and you should just buy a PC.

>gay tendies fighting for their lives
>all they care about is Nintendo being mentioned in the same breath as playstation
OOF

>>712836406
>S2 sold the fastest in history
>fighting for their lives
what did you mean by this?

>>712831268 (OP)
>"In a bigger scale Nintendo is bringing a young audience into gaming and some of them when they grow up might graduate into more mature systems like PlayStation or Xbox."
lmao

>>712836507
>>S2 sold the fastest in history
And? This doesnt matter to anyone other than Nintendo's shareholders.
The only games y'all have are a $80 shitty ass Mario Kart and a $10 console manual.

>>712831268 (OP)
Its really true, sony isn't competing with nintendo at all, its not even close

>>712836980
Im curious what you think is making tendies "fight for their lives" if money doesnt matter

>>712836372
>I think its a mistake for Sony to completely abandon children and it will fuck them in the near future

Not even that, just entertainment for everyone. They could bring back Ape Escape, they could create a new Toro & Kuro game and release it internationally, they could revive Fat Princess, they could revive Sackboy, hell if you want to increase the age, they even have several FPS series they completely abandoned like Killzone, Resistance or SOCOM, and they could do all of this with AA budgets, but they have dug themselves so deep into the high-end graphics scheme that the only things they have left are either movie games, from which God of War of all games suffered, or live service MTX-heavy games that die in a matter of months, like Foamstars.

Even saying that Sony wasn't competing with Nintendo is a blatant lie when the PS Portal is an obvious Switch knock off that even fails at that and instead is compared with the Wii U, while Foamstars was designed as a response to Splatoon, but they managed it in the worst way possible. I actually feel bad for Gurihiru because their designs were overall pretty cool.

>>712836406
Xbots won.

>>712835609
Nintendo does the same anon, see the ongoing Palworld lawsuit which was 100% because Sony partnered with Pocket Pair, but at the same time works with Sony when it's convenient for them like with movies, music and anime.

>>712831268 (OP)
There is no competition in Japan because Sony is basically a dead brand there.

>>712835702
>arbitrarily choosing different time lengths
How desperate you have to be to make this shit u, this is beyond pathetic.

>>712831268 (OP)
Not wrong, Nintendo doesn't even make home consoles any more and Sony crashed out of the handheld market too

>>712837406
>Sony is basically a dead brand there
*PlayStation
Saying Sony is a dead brand in Japan is ignoring like 99% of everything else they do, including music and anime

>>712831268 (OP)
This isn't news. Nintendo has been marching to the beat of their own drum since the Wii to the point where they really aren't competition to MS and Sony. It's pretty much always somebody owns an MS or Sony system AND a Nintendo system. Aside from hardcore tendies who were never going to buy another system in their lives, there really isn't anyone who makes the choice of getting Nintendo OR something else, it's always Nintendo AND something else.

>>712837245
>"fight for their lives"
Getting BTFO by internet strangers for buying a $600 kids tablet with no games and then coping with "MUH SALES".

>>712831268 (OP)
They tried this in the FTC case against Microsoft and had to backtrack on it. Are they really trying to play this card again?

>>712836948
If Nintendo is for kids what are people like Olímpio who is a 40 year-old faggot even doing here?
Why are tendies always fighting over kids... I'm sorry, games for kids?

>>712831552
kek

>>712837528
True. Like you said I mean playstation.

>>712837570
where is the switch 2 selling for $600?

>post after post with tendies seething that their made up rivalry only exists in their pedo fagmitsu threads
KEK

>>712837643
To be honest, if SIE where to just ask Aniplex to make games based on Aniplex IPs and actually give Aniplex some creative control they'd probably be able to reclaim some of the Jap market. Especially since Aniplex is supposedly going to go hard on Madoka content after the movie comes out this year and I don't think Type-Moon or Aniplex would be opposed to a AAA Fate game made by BluePoint or something, so long as Nasu writes the story.

>>712837662
Nowhere, it's 800 in most countries.

I know someone who always fights over kids!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3FT-0FypeM

Well they can't just find new sales data for the PS2 again and no amount of COVID cope will change the fact that the Switch 2 sold a lot better on launch than anything else, so all they have left is pretend that it's not competition

>>712836372
>once youre over 18 you realise that console gaming is for retards and you should just buy a PC
Very true, especially now that sony is porting it's exclusives to PC.

>>712838032
Is he good at Smash Bros? He might be on team.

>>712836372
Aren't Nintendo's main userbase adults in their upper 20s/ low 30s? Even saying Sony abandoning the children's market isn't accurate because Nintendo does a lot of sales outside children.

>>712838015
not even close

>>712838442
>Even saying Sony abandoning the children's market isn't accurate
This wouldn't be accurate at all considering Astro Bot and Team Asobi in general now exists and based on recent interviews they want to create more Astro Bot and family oriented games.

>>712838450
Check Brazil

>>712838216
>pre tariffs boost and scalpers
>31 > 8

>>712837945
if sony did that and then put them on that new handheld they're releasing along with the ps6 then that would probably go a long way to claw back the japanese market. honestly all they need is fgo: offline as a ps6/handheld exclusive and it'd sell units like crazy.

it's really baffling sony didn't port fgo arcade for one of their live service games either. jim ryan was so dumb it's unreal.

>>712838710
favela monkey confirmed

>>712831268 (OP)
true they don’t make portable kid games

>>712838717
>coping still
lmao

What's the future of playstation? a handheld? the console format is declining, zoomers only care about portable things, also the vita was trash cuz you could play everything on the ps3, so what's the point of doing the same shit.

>>712838935
>they don't make games
FTFY

>>712831268 (OP)
Yeah, no shit. Sony's market is dudebros playing cod and fifa so nintendie is not really a competitor for this niche. How is this hard to understand? And it's not like sony could make anything to gain over nintendo fans, they are the most loyal fanbase ever created.

>>712838450
9 countries isn't most countries in the world, it's not even the same price across Europe.

>>712838975
>What's the future of playstation?
Handheld and console, they are basically the only ones in the console space now and they sell them at a profit and we already have leaks of a new PlayStation handheld to be paired with the PS6

>>712839108
>most countries
>those dont count!
>posts 2 more countries that arent 800 dollars either
outstanding job, anon

How Sony can save themselves:
>Put every first party title on their emulation services for PS1-2-P
>Hire RPCS3 developers to collaborate with their own emulation devs to make a PS3 emulator for this service
>Utilize smaller talent or dictate studios to focus on smaller scale projects using legacy IPs- do not put restrictions on them short of approval from original staff still at Sony (i.e., Naughty Dog develops a new Resistance game, gets approved by Insomniac leads)
>Heavier push into PC, announce your emulation services on PC as available on Steam with complete service integration including netplay support where possible
>Hire independent developers to make new IPs for you or work on legacy IPs
And most importantly of all
>During this heavy rebrand effort, have one State of Play every month from July to May, each one having various nostalgia stingers to reel people in (i.e., in July they have Resistance 4, in August they announce PS3-on-PS5, in September they etc etc etc)
>End this year of big events with a MAJOR PlayStation Showcase in June
>Announce the PS6 alongside new IPs they've been saving all year, and the big announcement is a complete retooling of PlayStation All Stars
>it is now a pure platform fighter with a roster encompassing PlayStation's entire history
>If you have already played a game in the roster, you automatically unlock them without doing any Arcade Mode, with bonus costumes and minions for further trophy completion
>It will be available on PS6 as a free title celebrating the history of PlayStation and the fact that the PS6 will be the place where all of PS' history and future is available

But instead of any of this, they'll announce four more live service flops and we'll get dripfed the fifth port of Jak 2.

>>712838975
>vita was trash cuz you could play everything on the ps3
Tendies can't even use google LMAO

>>712839150
So they're doing the Vita again?

>>712838975
they fucked the vita and fought tooth and nail to make people buy 2 copies of games only for switch to let people play where they want, if they had brains they would have had a portable ps4 (switch2) already

>>712839330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etPnVNCol_s
snoys don't even know their consoles LMAO

>>712838442
HBO is not in direct competition with disney+, an adult who wants to watch hbo shows is not going to weigh that decision against their desire to consume cartoons made for 6 year olds. you're either a nintendo adult who plays childrens games, a parent who is buying nintendo for their kid or a late teen/adult who is buying movie game shit and granturismo for themselves.

>>712839441
>and fought tooth and nail to make people buy 2 copies of games
Their first parties always came with a digital code for the Vita version. PS All Stars and Sly 4 in particular came with Vita codes for me.
Most of the Vita-PS3 titles were released on Vita way later, very few released on both at the same time.
Vita also wasn't good enough to be a portable PS4.

>>712839150
>we already have leaks of a new PlayStation handheld
which will cost an assload of money and have to compete against the steam deck and xbox console, and sony's going to have to start a new handheld division to make games

>>712839302
>>Hire independent developers to make new IPs for you or work on legacy IPs
>>legacy IPs
Californian PS don't care about the old japanese IPs, this is why Japan Studio is dead, the face of playstation is The last of us and God of War

>>712839475
>>712838975
PS3 remote play is a SEVERELY gimped service on Vita.
PS4 remote play is the one that actually works, the PS3 one only works with like ten actual PS3 games.

>>712838975
sega

>>712838745
>jim ryan was so dumb it's unreal
Honestly, you basically have a branch in the same company that makes and owns some of THE most profitable anime IP's in Japan and owns not only the studio by the rights to, except for the main story, one of the most profitable gacha games in history and yet you never have the idea to make a game out of any of them??? I mean think about it, the PS6 handheld is going to be a thing, Sony owns a lot of the rights to Bocchi the Rock, one of the most popular IP's in Japan and SMEJ essentially owns some of the most popular Japanese artists, not only for anime openings but in general in Japan. Sony managed to get BTR fans to re-buy a Sony XPeria solely because it had BTR branding and a BTR OS, you can't tell me that a BTR rhythm game on the handheld wouldn't move some units in the Japanese market, especially since at that point S2 would have already released and S3 would have already been announced. This would be an overall net benefit to Sony since it promotes their IP, promotes their own artists and promotes the BTR idol group they formed with the VA's recently. Just have the VA's slap in a couple extra exclusive songs in the game and make it decent, instant cash grab.

He's right, in the west they're different audiences.

>>712839475
>nigger thinks remote play on the Vita is the same as playing vita games on the PS3
Olímpio...

>>712839569
You'll survive.

>>712835236
>PlayStation's domain is not the same as the Switch/Wii, etc.
The problem is that you can't really separate gaming out like that. Whether they like it or not they're competing in the same space since the majority of third party titles are on both systems and given the choice people pick the switch over the PS5 unless of course they can't get it on switch.
>PlayStation is performing far greater in it's domain
Well of course they're the only ones in their domain. That's the point of that viewpoint, it's basically the same as that nonsense "high end" gaming market they made up for the Actiblizz trial because if they don't then Nintendo completely dominates in every regard selling far more units of software while also being of considerably higher quality and having a higher output.

>>712839927
That's all you can say! That's all you can say!

>>712839783
during the ps3 and even early ps4 gen, sony was working with companies like bandai namco for big ips like idolm@ster and sword art online. they were using their animation studios to make anime to advertise the games that were playstation exclusives and they did the same thing with atlus and persona. sony was at their best when they were actually make full use of their separate parts to work together instead of whatever the fuck they're doing now.

i swear sony saw the money fgo was making and assumed they could just make mobile games forever for infinite fgo levels of profit and then it backfired horrendously on them. there was a world where instead of dropping the vita, sony would release new fate games on it instead during the height of fgo and potentially become the most popular handheld in japan.

sony's jewishness will never cease to amaze me
>if we redefine the meaning of words we win!!!
yeah no shit

>>712840316
It's the only way Sony can pretend they have any advantage. Why do you think they're switching their metrics to those of a mobile game developer?

>>712839475
>vita was trash cuz you could play everything on the ps3

>>712840316
>>712840428
the future looks dark as hell, everyone is making handhelds, and nintendo has a huge advantage.

>>712838717
>31 > 8

So this is going to be your new cope, I guess screaming about Astrobot like a spoiled child didn't work.

>>712840031
survive what?

>>712840428
>Sony is pretending
The irony of a mentally ill Ninpedo posting this in an anonymous board!

>>712840578
It's not surprising. Even the creators are ashamed of Astrobot being nothing but a digital Funko pop.

>>712840581
Being a cultist that caps for the official console for homosexuals aka the switch 2.

>>712840771
none of that has anything to do with what we we were talking about, so Im going to assume youre just seething as usual

>>712831268 (OP)
Game Freak knows.

>>712840878
knows what?

>>712840268
>sony was at their best when they were actually make full use of their separate parts to work together instead of whatever the fuck they're doing now.
Aniplex and SIE might have unironically had a falling out when Jim Ryan took power, that's around the same time they stopped actually working together as much as they did before, and after he left they started to work together again as seen with the announcement of the Ghosts of Tsushima anime that Aniplex are making for SIE. Wouldn't even blame them if that's the case. Hopefully they start working a lot more closely in the future, since Aniplex is going to start pushing more Madoka content after the movie releases the PS6 and handheld might potentially be able to ride that wave seeing as Madoka fans have been starved of content for the past couple of years now.

>>712840878
We know.

>>712831268 (OP)
So what was the survey about the Switch 2 for?

>>712840268
>they were using their animation studios to make anime to advertise the games that were playstation exclusives and they did the same thing with atlus and persona.
Anon, they didn't make the persona anime until 5.

>>712840878
Kek

>>712841586
They made Persona 4 Golden too.

>>712840878
It's really telling about the quality of their garbage to see everyone acting like this is the first time they announced something outside of Nintendo, not even not being on a Nintendo console is news since both tembo and giga wrecker weren't on Nintendo consoles at first

>>712831268 (OP)
>Nintendo doesn't show up
Except when they go complete suicide watch?

>>712841772
>PLEASE TELL US WHY ARE YOU BUYING SWITCHES BUT NOT PLAYSTATIONS
This is so fucking pathetic

desu
nintendo only sells videogames and hardware/peripheriie

MS and Sony are both having a way broader portfolio and can tank flops way more easy by cross financing

>>712841771
I think the main ouotrage is "how are you making something that looks(not runs, obviously) this well but scat/vomit ran like complete shit, you fucking hacks"

>>712841701
Oh yeah, the Golden anime existed.
They should have stuck with AIC.

>>712831268 (OP)
>except for in Japan
>The only country where Sony has zero ground to stand on against Nintendo
lmao

>>712841586
>Anon, they didn't make the persona anime until 5.
Aniplex made the Persona 4 anime, they produced it though it wasn't animated by A-1 at the time since they where busy with making SAO and other projects they had picked up.

>>712841897
sony doesnt have a broad portfolio at all though

>>712831268 (OP)
so when is the ps5 getting games?

>>712831268 (OP)
We won Xbros, Nintendo is dog shit confirmed!

>>712842000
>How Nintendo views Sony

>>712841951
>Aniplex made the Persona 4 anime
They made the Golden anime, not factor of hope, the original or the p3 movie.

>Market research? What's the point of doing that?
>Sure, there is the issue of time lag between market research results and actual user demand when a game is released. But Nintendo creates the market. There's no need to conduct research anywhere.

>>712841995
Music, Film, TVs, Cameras, Phones, speakers, headphones, semiconductros

what are you talking about?

Well yeah, it's a kid's console, you could argue that all consoles are for kids, but Nintendo is the one that targets them

Very organic.

>>712831268 (OP)
It's sad. Shuhei was a cool guy but the moment Sony got BTFO his mask dropped completely

>>712842209
is bayonetta 3 and metroid dread for kids?

>>712841995
31 > 8 says otherwise.
Cloud streaming?
Physical games?
Subscription service?
Bringing their ips to the big screen (nintendon't handed over Zelda to Sony out of desperation)
Accessories (best selling every year and not made of cardboard)
VR
Etc

Feel free to come up with a completely retarded cope in the usual tendie fashion that will for sure make Nintendo turn things around.

>>712842478
>31 > 8 says otherwise.
28 billion in debt
>.subscription service is a positive
lmao

>>712842478
>Revenue

>>712841995
>sony doesnt have a broad portfolio at all though
>Music (western and japanese)
>Anime
>Streaming
>Phones
>Speakers
>Headphones
>Financial services (incl banking and insruance in Japan)
>Cameras
>Medical Imaging
>Semiconductors
>Movies (western and Japanese)
>TV shows (western and Japanese)
>Advertising
>TV's
>professional audio equipment
>Sensor's (they own 55% of the market share)
Need I go on? That's not even touching on a lot of their software divisions.

>>712842478
That's playstation, the mentally ill tendietranny said SONY!

>>712842748
Don't cry lmao

>>712842713
>Olímpio ran
Predictable.
Sony pictures also owns Columbia pictures and a movie theater chain.
Compared to a jew owned company that outsources the development of their slop games for toddlers and makes cardboard accessories lmao.

>>712831268 (OP)
>Sony doesn't view Nintendo as competition
Same cope like when Wii was obliterating their PS3ple lol

>>712843378
>Compared to a jew owned company that outsources the development of their slop games
meanwhile

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2025-the-first-plausible-sony-handheld-specs-leaks-emerge-but-how-capable-can-it-be
Switchy bros?!

>>712843652
Stop being antisemitic, sir

>>712843861
>Weaker than Switch 2
>$699
>No games
This isn't looking good, Snoysissies...

>>712843652
I always forget about this. Just looking at the PS Store shows the Indian talent they're cultivating.

>>712842415
Did something happen?

>>712843861
yours for the low low price of $700!

>>712844020
>If only you knew how bad things really are

>>712843861
>NO! WE AREN'T COMPETING WITH NINTENDO
>B-b-but here's our own handheld so we can recoup some of the market we lost to them...
You really haven't thought this through, did you?

>>712844029
The jannies pet is having his usual Nintendo seethe session and spamming the board while trying to pretend Nintendo is "losing"

>>712843861
why do they keep going with AMD? FSR isn't up to snuff.

>we don't view the as competition except in the second biggest market for videogames
Kek

Also
>The Nintendo Switch 2 has shattered US sales records, becoming the fastest-selling video game console in the country’s history
https://twistedvoxel.com/nintendo-switch-2-sets-us-launch-sales-record-with-over-1-1-million-units-sold-in-first-week/#google_vignette

>>712843652
>over 1 billion potential PS owners
Why isn't Nintendo doing anything about it? All the larping about Sony's business and the best tendietranny comeback is Sony leaving Nintendo in the dust...
And don't forget about China, another dead market to Nintendo, the future is grim.

>>712844312
>Great news for Nintendo Switch 2 coming from mainland China – it seems that the system is doing very well despite no official launch.
>According to e-commerce website JD, which is offering Nintendo Switch 2 parallel imports from Hong Kong, the console sold over 400,000 units as of June 4, 2025. This is an increase of 70,000 units from late May.

>>712843861
>overpriced handheld shutting the last shreds of retards complaining about Switch 2's pricing after the release of the thing BTFO them hard
>Most likely at +$600
>No games compared to Switch and Switch 2
>Switch 2 has at least Switch games working better at 720/1080
>PS handheld will struggle reaching 720 and stable framerate with modern games
>sold at loss
Can't wait lol

>>712843861
>Switch doesn't show up
Not again...
Sony's handheld sounding way better than the Xbox rog Ally.

>>712831268 (OP)
>except for in Japan
Except for the one place where they're unequivocally being blown the fuck out? I guess.

Isn't this guy not working at Sony anymore? Lmao

>>712844607
It's sad to see Yoshida go full blown rabid Snoy

>>712844034
In reality the switch 2 costs more than a PS5 despite being nowhere near one.
Sony's handheld won't be as good as a PS5 so we don't have to worry about it costing $700 (pre tariffs) like the switch 2.

>>712844825
>In reality the switch 2 costs more than a PS5
delusion isnt healthy, eric

>>712833223
SWITCH 2 WON

>>712844194
The handheld is for us gamers, not to make seething pedos like you even more unhinged.

>>712840058
> The problem is that you can't really separate gaming out like that.
I really don't agree. Porsche and Toyota don't really compete, yet they are both car manufacturers. They both run on the same roads and transport people around.

People buying a PS5 are buying it for reasons that are different from those buying a Switch.

> Well of course they're the only ones in their domain.
They're not though, they're competing w/MSFT. And it hasn't always been just Xbox, since Sony used to compete w/Nintendo right up until the Wii back in 2006, when Nintendo was pushed out of the primary gaming market.

> Nintendo completely dominates in every regard selling far more units of software
okay, I now realize I'm talking to a teenager. I don't care to defend the PlayStation brand, but I wouldn't use the word "dominate" to describe Nintendo's position outside of Japanland. Nintendo's performance is as volatile as the weather, while the PlayStation platform (unfortunately) has been highly stable for 30 years. This is because they are the leader in the primary gaming market, a market Nintendo left years ago.

> considerably higher quality
jesus christ anon

yeah, I think my points still stand.

>>712842641
>playstation only

oh you gullible retard

>>712844825
>In reality the switch 2 costs more than a PS5 despite being nowhere near one.
Third world here; no, it fucking doesn't.

>>712842445
justified they moved hq to commiefornia then burned everything and demoted him into corner desk

>>712844508
>Snoys and normalfags are really expecting this to seal Nintendo's fate
It will never not be funny.

>>712844312
>W-What about Nintendo?!
Oops!
2 billy PS6 sold to Saar and Chang Jiang.

>>712844508
>>sold at loss
NTA but Sony stopped selling consoles at a loss from since the PS5 launched.

>>712843569
>ps3 ended up winning against it's competition xbox
>ps4 dominates
>meanwhile nintendo has to gimmick
>sharted the bed with piiu

>>712843861
>ai slop chip
yeah what else is new

>except for Japan
Christ, Yoshida. If you want to lie at least lie about a different market than the only one whe have solid data for.

Japan software sales - 2024 / total
01. NSW - 15.160.018 / 144.803.865 <76,89%> (333 new games)
02. PS5 - 3.424.588 / 8.828.408 <17,37%> (186 new games)
03. PS4 - 1.129.962 / 63.205.525 <5,73%> (102 new games)
04. XBS - 2.759 / 22.217 <0,01%> (3 new games)
00. ALL - 19.717.327 <100,00%> (624 new games)

Japan hardware sales - 2024 / total
01. NSW - 3.525.232 / 35.053.816
02. PS5 - 1.715.964 / 6.643.042

>>712845182
Switch 2 is $500 in the US
PS5 is $399 with 2 games
I have seen a screenshot of the switch 2 with no games costing more than a PS5 with 3 games in Mexico.
Yes it does.

>>712841906
Pretty much proves GF is like CC2 they use big name franchises to fund their other projects only difference is CC2 will put effort in everything they work on even generic anime games I'm sure if Nintendo could they'd have Monolith work on Pokemon now.

>>712845416
>>ps3 ended up winning against it's competition xbox
and not beating the Wii
>meanwhile nintendo has to gimmick
never 4get how sony made move to copy the wii controller

>>712845089
So you admit Playstation got BTFO by Nintendo?

>>712845750
Nintendo doesn't BTFO Sony

>>712845593
This dirty out of the box?

>>712845810
>>712845810
outsold every sony handheld in h2h generations and the switch destroyed the PS5's sales

>>712845810
So you admit they got BTFO'd by Nintendo?
Sony Aniplex also releases Switch exclusive games and avoids Playstation at any cost.

>>712845403
>NTA but Sony stopped selling consoles at a loss from since the PS5 launched.
Sony always sells at loss with the hope they stop selling it at loss midgen. By that point they expect the system having traction and good amount of software being released for it and the audience shifted onto the new system.

>>712845416
>ps3 ended up winning against it's competition xbox
>Wins by 0.5
>for the runner up place
>and still ended up in red numbers
>Implying graphics isn't the biggest gimmick of all
>Implying PS4's success was due its own merit
>Clings to the only mistake Nintendo ever did and that didn't even put them at risk

>>712845662
Down here PS5 is at +$500 with Switch 2 being a slight lower price.

>PS5 is $399 with 2 games
>implying PS5 has games

>>712845748
Or how they copied the Wii U just last year.
Clony's gonna Clony, after all.

>>712845931
>company which sole operation is kids toys outperforms company which operations are extremly broad
many such cases

>>712846073
they actually bragged about the portal in their investors meeting when asked if they're monitoring the switch 2 getting third party support

>>712845951
>Aniplex
who?

>>712845810
Sony has a technical record of 2 (PS1 and PS2/4) wins versus at least 4 of Nintendo (DS, 3DS, Wii, Switch). And that's only because GC was good as well despite PS2's massive success.

>>712845416
Pretty insane that people think the PS3 was actually successful when it wiped out all the profit made from the PS2 lol

>>712831268 (OP)
I guess making games is also left out from business analysis

switch 2 $484.00
ps5 $449.00

>>712846073
>Clony's gonna Clony, after all.
>copies Nintendo = fails
>Somehow Sony is also now copying Xbox
Who the fuck thought doing the same mistake as Xbox was a good thing?!

>>712846175
>w-who cares about sony's video game division
luh mow

>>712846274
thats because nintendo does everything to market their things to every audience
they don't have anything else
they have to

shit even my mom called my xbox a nintendo
that's how in herently tethered videogames is to the name nintendo
it's like with apple
apple could bring out the worst products ever (heck they are already) and it will still outsell samsung phones
doesn't mean apple has the better product

>>712846358
>$35 difference
that's nothing and switch 2 has games already.

>>712846493
>shit even my mom called my xbox a nintendo
>when you did it so well you became synonym of your market
NINTENDOMINATION!!!!

>>712846627
>inb4 food analogy
this shit is like saying mcdonalds make the best burgers

>>712846493
>doesn't mean apple has the better product
Apple never had a good product unlike Nintendo. Is this a subtle cope about Switch?

>>712837468
I think they're doing that to show just how insane the Switch 2 sold compared to everything else, even PS5 had to take a month to sell as much as what Switch 2 did in 4 days

>>712845046
>Porsche and Toyota don't really compete, yet they are both car manufacturers.
Anon, that's because you can separate vehicles given they're made for different purposes. A van, car, jeep, sports car whatever, they're made for different things.
A video game is made for entertainment and no matter how many cutscenes you put into a game an action adventure game like Horizon Zero Dawn is still going to be an action adventure game competing in the same space as Zelda and Elden Ring.
>People buying a PS5 are buying it for reasons that are different from those buying a Switch.
Technically yes, after all, the software isn't selling so it's mostly just brand loyalty selling it.

>They're not though
They are. Microsoft has all but dropped out so who are they supposed to be competing with?
>when Nintendo was pushed out of the primary gaming market.
Anon, in gen 7 Nintendo was, again, dominating the console space.
And primary market? There is no primary market. It's just one market.
> I don't care to defend the PlayStation brand, but I wouldn't use the word "dominate" to describe Nintendo's position outside of Japanland.
Anon, they've been selling more software worldwide, this isn't something you can argue not to mention the switch outsold the PS5 in most regions until very recently due to the sunsetting of the switch and that was completely obliterated by Switch 2.

>jesus christ anon
Are you trying to say that Sony's games have been good when they're not only shorter than most games made 20 years ago but have less mechanical depth?
I'm willing to bet you saw that statement as praise for Nintendo rather than a slight against Sony right? We could be talking about just about anyone else and there would still be a considerable quality gap between them and Sony with Sony being below. I mean, I don't particularly like say Monster Hunter Wilds but as a game it's longer and more complex than anything Sony has ever shat out despite being the worst MH game to date.

>>712846813
i own a switch, a ps5 and a pc with a 5090
not bothering with a switch 2
money isn't an issue

>>712845046
>I think my points still stand
They don't, you're basically just parroting the same nonsense coping mechanisms they are out of some twisted sense of loyalty to them rather than knowing what you're talking about.

>Sony still subscribes to the 'young people will grow up and play playstation' line of thinking

Man, that's so outdated it's not even funny.

>Nintendo is just a competitor in Japan
This dumbass really thinks that Playstation has the NA market cornered huh?
The fucking Switch outsold every goddamn Playstation console.
And I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy since I actually do like both Playstation and Nintendo consoles

>>712836089

Proper chattin shit 'cos he's cackin his y-fronts bruv

>>712847849
It's so hilariously out of touch since they're not even making games targeting adults. They're specifically targeting kids since they're the only ones with the free time to sit and bear their condescending and overly intrusive storytelling for such a small amount of gameplay.
If they really wanted to appeal to adults then they would have just taken Nintendo's approach, which is just making core focused games.

Most of sony's revenue is from their digital store so he's right.

>>712831268 (OP)
Reminder that the court of law says Nintendo raped Playstation.

>>712848426
Well there's Stellar Blade but Sony is only now being forced to admit that it is the kind of game people fucking want.

>>712848178
This never happened tendie.

>>712831268 (OP)
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
Nintendo is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, outside of those circlejerk Famitsu threads. Must be a big blow for /v/intendo.

>>712847645
>i own a switch
>when Switch 2 outperforms it by a wide margin
How big is your buyer's remorse?

>he bought a ps5

>>712848954
switch has outsold every PS console in the US and japan, and until sony magically found 10m more consoles over a decade after they stopped making PS2's, it will match PS2 probably within the next 3 years

>>712831268 (OP)
Shuhei doesn't work there anymore. He got foreced out along with every other noteworthy jap and was replaced by a white man.

>>712846059
Not exclusive, not a game, right?
I gotchu sis.

>>712831268 (OP)
this is normal since nintendo has the handheld console monopoly and sony has the traditional stationary console market alongside xbox.

no use viewing a market your not a part of as "competition"

>>712849612
>nintendo has the handheld console monopoly and sony has the traditional stationary console market alongside xbox.
Uh, the handheld market died anon.

>>712849612
>ony has the traditional stationary console market alongside xbox.
>record low selling xbox
not a very high bar

>>712849939
the switch is the only one left

>>712850080
better than another monopoly

>>712850159
>better than another monopoly
Is this "no money is better than too much money" logic?

>>712831268 (OP)
>They don't count except where I say they count

That's not how it works Yoshi.

>>712831268 (OP)
Do you think they would come out and admit Nintendo is on their brain 24/7?

>>712850159
>the switch is the only one left
No, it's portable but not a handheld system. It's very much a home console and treated as such with companies just making the same games for it as they would any other home console.
The gameboy, DS, 3ds and so on had their own style of games and when games were "ported" to it they required whole new versions. Technology has reached the point where handhelds and games designed for them aren't necessary.

>>712831268 (OP)
>because show more
Interesting argument

>>712850503
Their fanboys don't, why would they?

>>712850585
It's still a handheld console when not docked.

>>712850816
You'll never understand the difference between a portable system and a handheld console.

>>712831268 (OP)
Sony is too busy failing even harder than Nintardo. All they're making is freemium games that are flopping.

>>712847428
The issue with PS5 was there weren't enough made though, nobody could get their hands on them.

>>712850816
>didn't understood the ad campaign
oof

>>712850939
And you'll never understand hybrids

>>712851228
Jokes on you I drive one

>>712851135
Skill issue, Nintendo took this long to release the Switch 2 because they were preparing enough to hsve enough stock available.
And it paid off.

>>712851135
if only sony could have held off the release and made more consoles...
if only

>>712853161
>scalpers got fucked over
BASED Nintendo

>>712850503
Never directly.

>>712845089
In what way is the success or lack thereof of Sony cameras or TVs when we're discussing VIDEOGAMES?

>>712849296
not at all
i play some on the ps5 and some on the pc
especially controller heavy games like souls games, actiongames like god of war and resident evil, silent hill games which i always played on consoles since the first games and that hasn't changed
playing those with keyboard doesn't feel right so i can buy them on the console
helps that those games come first on the console and are ported later

>>712848426
Kids are not playing shit like God of War. It's all white people with daddy issues and Brazilians for some reason.

>>712854012
>actiongames like god of war
If only that game was combat heavy

>helps that those games come first on the console and are ported later
Sounds inefficient; you could buy the controller and then get the PC version. The PS5 is redundant when it has no exclusives of weight... or good amount

>>712853938
i already said that a nintendo flop hits nintendo harder than a playstation flop because sony can subsidize its entertainment franchises with other franchises money

>>712854208
i could say the same about the switch games since you can emulate them on a PC

it's just a lazy approach at videogames

This makes sense to me. Like who ONLY has a Switch and no other gaming machine or PC? A Nintendo machine is typically something someone gets as a secondary machine to play Nintendo exclusives while they play other games on their PS5 or Xbox or PC.

>>712854343
>i could say the same about the switch games since you can emulate them on a PC
Emulation =/= official releases. So no, you couldn't say that.

>>712853161
The reason Nintendo took so long to release the Switch 2 was cost-cutting.
Not sarcastic here: they genuinely wanted to keep the system cheap for kids.
If they cared about power or an early launch, they’d have paid hundreds of millions to jump the TSMC fab queue. But instead, they waited until they could squeeze a deal out of Samsung — a company with a streak of failures in contract manufacturing.
With the original Switch, they capitalized on Nvidia’s Shield flop. Now with Switch 2, it’s Samsung’s falling out with U.S. chip clients.
Nintendo thrives off other companies’ misfortunes.

>>712831552
ROFL MOVIE GAMES

The competitor to sony is largely fortnite and gacha because when people play eternal games they aren't available to buy and play single player games that sony outputs.
And also other forms of entertainment, like threaters, tv. They are fighting over your time.

>>712854450
>But instead, they waited until they could squeeze a deal out of Samsung — a company with a streak of failures in contract manufacturing.
Doesn't sound like cost cutting but fishing for a good fucking deal.

>>712854394
>A Nintendo machine is typically something someone gets as a secondary machine
Congrats, you're now looking at Nintendo systems in the same way everyone saw Sony consoles. It's the whore system to the primary where you buy all of the multiplats.

>>712854450
Anon, you haven't explained your stance here.

>>712854394
Cope mindset; the main system is the one driving with its games, multiplat machines the secondary one.

>>712844373
It's basically pointless to officially release in China since all software needs to go through the government for approval, meaning not many games get released. It's better for all companies and the Chinese themselves to rely on the grey market.

>>712831268 (OP)
Shouldn't Sony shareholders sue Sony management for being this petty toward Nintendo?

>>712854746
As someone working in the semiconductor industry, I’m just genuinely impressed by how aggressively Nintendo cuts costs — and how effective they are at it.

>>712835702
enjoy your 5-7 first party games over the next 7 years

>>712854974
Anon, that's quite literally what every single company does.

>>712854974
>I’m just genuinely impressed by how aggressively Nintendo cuts costs — and how effective they are at it
When Sony did it with PS2 it was fine. As long as you keep being effective at it

>>712832513
Microsoft shareholders were actually unhappy about the 75 billion dollar Activision purchase because 75 billion dollars could have been used to buy OpenAI, instead. Even Microsoft's 10 billion dollar bid to buy Discord would have been a better purchase than Activision

>>712854420
yeah, you are right
switch games run better on emulation

>>712854902
They could sue them for not doing everything they can to make money.

>>712831809
Why does he always use exclamation marks?

>>712855120
Yeah, but that implies people cares about performance in their games and that has been proven wrong for decades now.

>>712855108
Source? God I hope it's real.

>>712838442
Miyamoto no longer cares about video games and wants to be Japanese Walt Disney and build Nintendo theme parks for his remaining lifespan. Should Nintendo buy Universal Studios next?

>In 2022, the Universal brand was valued at $12.88 billion. This valuation reflects the brand's strength across its various divisions, including Universal Pictures, theme parks, and other entertainment properties

>>712840316
I feel like only the Sony camera division does not act retarded. Look how Sony managed to successfully shill mirrorless cameras to the entire camera industry. Maybe Sony should consider promoting the smart people in their camera division to the other Sony departments because clearly, Sony's video game division is the lowest intelligence division in their entire company.

>>712831268 (OP)
>Number 2 insists they don't care about winning, being a distant 2 is fine. We're uuuh not even competing.

>>712854394
As I grow older I care less and less about multiplats.

>>712831268 (OP)
there's panic behind the scenes

>>712854974
I am actually disappointed that Nintendo decided to work with Samsung instead of TSMC just because Samsung desperately offered a better deal than TSMC. Nintendo should have looked at the far future and realize Samsung ain't catching up to TSMC

>>712854394
>while they play other games on their PS5 or Xbox or PC.
This here is the key thing. If you want to play every game on the market, you need to go Nintendo plus any other platform. In other words, Switch 2 is the only one mandatory gaming machine. It may seem secondary because it doesn't have full multiplat support, but it's growing fast. Look at Wii U's nonexistent support, then Switch 1's middling support, then Switch 2's "oh fuck get as much shit on it at launch as possible" support.

Sony have their head in the clouds, assuming that everyone who buys a Switch 2 is eventually gonna drop it in favor of Playstation, but each year there's less and less reasons for Nintendo-only fags to "graduate". They still have games like GTA6 to rely on, but even that won't last forever.

>>712846813
c'mon now, apple has good products
they're just overpriced

>>712854773
Well I mean it doesn't really matter which is primary or secondary. The point is I doubt anyone only has a Switch and nothing else. If someone has a Switch they more than likely have a PS5 or Xbox or PC as well unless they are a super normie who only play animal crossing and mario kart but even those people are likely to have a ps5 to play fifa or call of duty.

>>712853889
The irony here in my opinion is how reliant Sony is on titles like Fortnite and the fact Nintendo always made titles that appealed to everyone, not just kids. There's people in their 50s still playing 3D Mario/3D Zelda.

>>712849612
Huge cope, it's a console. The fact Sony fanboys still tries to pull this shit is hilarious.

>>712845416
>ps4 dominates
In the beginning. Sales completely stalled later when Switch came out. The entire reason why Sony has been increasing prices so much is to milk the consumers they got left.

>>712855895
TSMC is fucking full of electronic brands wanting their shit which made them jack up the price big time. Samsung has alot more fabrications for nintendo to use to minimize conflicts and maximize hardware production as well as being cheaper. Do you want to pay PS5 pro prices for a switch 2?

>>712855703
Really? Most games are multiplats these days. Sony and Microsoft barely even put out any exclusives anymore. I can't even remember the last PS5 exclusive game. I think it was Spider-Man 2 but that was like 2 or 3 years ago I think.

>>712831268 (OP)
>n-nintendo?? what's that, haha!
>no man, we don't think about them at all! really!

>>712855896
Anyone who calls Switch 1 or 2 secondary are retards. For tons of adults it's what gives them any gaming time at all and they don't need any other system. Doubly so when Switch 2 can play the slop titles like Fortnite and COD.

>>712855895
>he thinks Nintendo never sees the long term
Anon, that's the ONLY thing Nintendo always does.

>>712856086
>The point is I doubt anyone only has a Switch and nothing else.
For gaming they do. I, personally have a shitty smartphone and several consoles but the main ones always boils down to Nintendo or the one that has the exclusives like PS1 and PS2. This is the case for most; their mobile platform they play on, it's not their main one despite having more time spent on; their commitment might not be there (this is why phones never took off as gaming platforms beside gacha).


also, you're counting PC as game system instead the appliance it is.

>>712856317
I cared about multiplats when they were still good. I remember when Mass Effect came out and it felt like everyone played them, oven dragon quest. Now they come out and the only people playing them are youtubers making "haha look how pathetic this game is xD"

>>712856286
To be fair, Samsung’s falling out with major Western companies like Apple is largely due to their notoriously low production yields — so bad that some have seriously considered shifting production to India.
Given Nintendo’s emphasis on quality, it’ll be interesting to see how they plan to address this issue.
Honestly, I’m looking forward to hearing their side of the story a few years down the line.

>>712856012
Not even the Mac was good.

>>712856317
>Most games are multiplats these days. Sony and Microsoft barely even put out any exclusives anymore
Speaks volume of why their brands are weaker, seeing less selling units and need to move on to different markets to get their profits. As if being enough reason to not buying one was big and bad enough.

>>712850585
the fact the switch masquerades as a home console and is able to dock with "current" gen ports doesnt mean its not a handheld.

you could dock the gameboy and gba games with addons, you could dock the PSP, its no different.

the fact is they make dedicated hardware that is portable, sony or xbox does not do this. The only closest competitor is the PC market which began repackaging laptops into gaming tablets now that integrated graphics are usable.

>>712855896
Most games have been cross gen ps4/ps5 games and they will work fine on Switch 2 but big current gen only games coming out in 2026 onwards probably wont get switch 2 versions or if they do i expect them to be pretty jank.

>>712856589
>I cared about multiplats when they were still good. I remember when Mass Effect came out and it felt like everyone played them
Anon, I'm afraid to inform you that multiplat stopped being good in the generation when you though they were good. The last time of good multiplats was early-mid gen 6.

>>712856485
I wasn't trying to make a big deal about it or anything. You can call the PS5/Xbox/PC the secondary one if you want. The point was just that if someone has a Nintendo machine they probably have another gaming machine as well.

>>712856840
>the fact is they make dedicated hardware that is portable, sony or xbox does not do this
The xbox 360 board can be turned into portable; it's not about making it "dedicated".

>>712856589
Its funny because Mass Effect 1 was xbox 360 exclusive lol

Remember that PlayStation are the only ones to raise the price of their console (multiple times in fact) after it's release

>>712857063
I think Xbox did it recently as well but nobody cares about xbox this gen so nobody really noticed.

>>712854394
why would I get anything else when I have Switch? Docked Switch 1 is just as powerful as a ps4, and Docked Switch 2 is just as powerful as ps5. Actually faster with some games.

So yeah, no thanks. All I need is a Switch. It's pure snoy, microbaby, and steam cuck COPE in this post.
>ohh, uhhh... I have ps5 already, but.. It couldn't satiate my needs so I also got a switch 2.

Face it, loser, the switch is the only console you need. If they made it into a phone as well, it would be the only device you need. Full stop.

>>712857276
They raised everything. And even have another GP increase in the works, imagine there's people using GP lmao

>>712857432
>why would I get anything else when I have Switch?
This but for me; it's Switch 2.

>>712857432
I don't think you need to have this hostile attitude desu. If you only want to get Nintendo machines that's perfectly fine.

>>712856840
>coping this much because the $800 humidifier lost so hard sony is going to jump ship to the PS6

>>712857778
>coping this much because the $800 humidifier lost so hard sony is going to jump ship to the PS6
>Selling as much as the PS4
>Sony actually selling it at a profit and not a loss
Yeah, sure tendie.

>>712831268 (OP)
>How Sony views Nintendo
>Sony views

right

>>712857913
>Selling as much as the PS4
>With more units being sold at loss in comparison
That's... flex I think.

>>712857913
>>Selling as much as the PS4

>>712858081
>With more units being sold at loss in comparison
Sony has been selling consoles at a profit since the PS5 launched retardbro, they had announced this back in 2021 and virtually everyone on the board knows this, aside from tendies that is
>>712858086
>Can only pull up Japanese numbers and not worldwide

>>712858086
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>>712857712
You only think I'm being hostile because the truth hurts.

>>712858245
>Sony has been selling consoles at a profit since the PS5 launched retardbro
No, they always sell at loss. PS5 stopped being sold at loss midway through.

>>712858305
They used to always sell at a loss, they don't anymore. This has been known from since forever ago.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22609150/sony-playstation-5-ps5-loss-profit

>>712858305
its still at a loss, the price hikes are the concord tax

>>712857006
it is, thats what makes it a console, specialized hardware....

>>712857778
idk what you are talking about, i dont own any consoles

>>712858297
I dunno. I have every current gen machine and a PC. I dont really use much of them though as I hardly ever play games in general.

>>712858305
>PS5 stopped being sold at loss midway through.
NTA but 2021 isn't midway through, that was about 8 months after it launched

>>712831268 (OP)
Ah yes, the ostrich strategy of simply pretending it’s not there

>>712858459
>Article states "not being sold at loss anymore"
They were clearly selling it at loss.

>>712858509
>thats what makes it a console, specialized hardware
Then explain the Xbox 360's board being made portable by ytubers of all things.

>>712836372
>I think its a mistake for Sony to completely abandon children and it will fuck them in the near future
Is this not the case for Nintendo as well? I don't see kids playing Switch on social media. It's all millennials. Actual kids are mostly playing fornite/minecraft/etc. The teenagers I know either play freemium slop or gamepass. My niece loves pokemon dolls and has every eevee variant, but got bored instantly with the game when I bought her the Eevee version.

>>712858836
thats just a mod, you can mod anything you can get your hands on from phones to laptops to consoles to software.

explains why they're just letting steam and nintendo gobble up their market share, as long as theyre beating microsoft their metrics are met :^)

>>712843652
THIS is why I want them to fail. All jeetified corpos have to go.

>>712858916
Sony lost by thinking they were "mature" so forgot about younger audiences, even if Nintendo doesn't do this they still have the edge of being part of the pop culture of the medium; so they always may have the young audience hook to them + the diversity of their IPs in their trunk which has quite the range. Sony outright neglected it just like they did with Ape Escape

>but got bored instantly with the game when I bought her the Eevee version
Maybe because it was shit.

>>712843652
Not like India is the only place they are doing this
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/china-hero-project/

>>712856895
Nah ME was fun. 2 as well. 3 eeeh less so but still.

>>712856964
People on gaming forums just got a echochamber look on things. Tons of casuals only got one console.

>>712858991
>thats just a mod
That's not a mod. There's no invasive change to the board; it's effectively the 360 board as portable.

>>712859185
>Game about the evolution pokemon
>You can't evolve it
I am eternally mad. 5000046200000007 years from now in my last reincarnation before the end of the universe, I will still be mad.

>>712832070
you don't get humiliated in court, that just means Japan has a broken corrupt system

>>712858916
>? I don't see kids playing Switch on social media.
That's because kids generally don't use social media.

>>712859449
>kids generally don't use social media
dyrbi

>>712859449
they're still in danger once they become teenagers

>free from sns
>in full danger of braindead child's cartoon quality
such a bad time to be a kid ngl

I wanna address the fucking "different markets" cope for a sec

Just last gen, if you wanted to play, say, Tokyo Gargleblaster 1, PS4 was the only way to go, maybe a western Xbox port if you were lucky

The Wii U was dead, the wii couldn't run anything demanding and the 3ds was a fucking toy performance wise

Whether that sold 10 million or merely 300k, 90% of that was literal free money for Sony, in addition to the ududal DLC or MTX or whatever

Now?
Tokyo Gargleblaster 2: Switch edition, may look uglier but sinec it caters to a different demo than Sony's cinematic sad dad output, it means the Switch 1 gets to keep a piece of that very same pie, which was previously entirely for PS

Next year? Tokyo Gargleblaster 3: dick punch edition doesn't look as ugly as 2, releases day and date on a console with a better form factor and to an audience that already had it on switch 1 and is ready to support their fave franchise on switch 2, and then, sony's pie gets inevitably even smaller until it becomes a "maybe if you're lucky" port

Worst thing you can do is let the opponent have the full lane, or market in this case, every shot you don't take is a missed one and Sony ahsn't hit a target in years by now

>>712858916
Reninder that most social media is carered to your algo, but i can assure you, there's fucktons of kids playing nintendo stuff, either by themselves, or because their parents got them the machine

>>712859326
unless that guy sells it and provides a platform with specific revisions on the new hardware i dont see this as a competitor to the normal xbox

>>712859949
There no new hardware; it's literally opening a 360 and taking away it's board making it fit with a portable device's margins. The controller requires heavy modding, the board just cornercutting like disposing the disc reader and such. Same thing can be done with GC... for the ones that didn't think 3DS was portable GC somehow.

>>712859949
>There no new hardware
i know thats why its modding

>>712860520
There's no change of parts or components iirc; it's not modding. It's the very same home system's board fit into portable size disproving anon´s claim of being dedicated the key of the matter.

>>712844029
He does this every single day.

>>712860918
>no change in components

id how you can make an xbox portable without changing how its built, strap a monitor to the back of the console? still needs to be plugged in to work tho so hardly usable

>>712861592
Yt has videos where it's the size of those shitty new "handheld" PCs like the Xbox thing they announced this week.

>>712836948
this reminds me of Sega making games for mature audiences.
Sony feels they might going SEGA in a few failed console gens

>>712857969
the slow shift in narrative as the years go by is amazing

>>712837662
in third-world shithole, then again that is price of the bundle

>>712861753
cool

>>712831552
>>712832210
yeah this is a joke but it's also true. besides games there are bunch of other shit fighting for our time and attention, youtube, netflix and other streaming services, spotify, facebook, twitter, reddit, tiktok, twitch, influencers, journos, news sites, even this shithole. geoff recently said something about 1600 new games released on Steam every year, there's also goypass undervaluing your full priced games and nintendo raping your ass on home turf. it's not easy to be a triple A snoy game in 2025 trying to expand market share when everyone's attention is elsewhere and most ppl are fatigued with uninspired western slop. profit margins are lower than ever and slipups like concord hurt a lot. cod still makes billions but black ops 6 cost between $600m and $1bln to make. gta 6 estimated cost is higher than $2bln and it's impossible to say if it will surpass gta 5 in sales.

>>712831268 (OP)
Sony doesn't feel Nintendo is competition because Nintendo is in the business of making games. Sony doesn't have games.

Sony doesn't view Nintendo as competition because Nintendo makes baby games for babies. It'd be like viewing Fisher Price as serious competition. It's just silly.

>>712865038
>It's OK when Sony does it

>>712865038
>Fisher Price

>>712865038
What's your guys' obsession with Fisher Price? Why that brand specifically? Why are they brought up so often on /v/?

>"but outside Japan PlayStation people clearly see Xbox as a primary competition.”
what? How? Xbox has been near nonexistent this gen while switch has been a runaway success.

>>712865785
Literally the only reason I got an Xbox is because it was the cheapest and most easily accessible alternative to a PC for games during covid and I basically haven't touched it since I got my PC, unlike my switch and soon to be switch 2

*cough*

>>712835236
>Sony really can't compete in the nostalgia, low-power handheld, children's market. While Nintendo can't compete in the hardware/software market
What a worthless fucking cope answer.
What nostalgia was ARMS using to sell 3mil copies?
Ring Fit Adventure is at like 15mil. Splatoon did 5mil on the WiiU.
Astral Chain crossed 1mil as a fully new IP in like 2-3 months.
Never mind that BotW is very different than prior Zeldas.
Nintendo has ROUTINELY sold more software than sony has even has their consoles struggle, especially first party software.
Stupid faggot belly end twat.

>>712866448
Where can I access this survey? I'd like to say to Sony to make some fucking games and exclusives myself

>>712854216
>i already said that a nintendo flop hits nintendo harder than a playstation flop because sony can subsidize its entertainment franchises with other franchises money
That depends.

>>712831268 (OP)
>Playstation doesn't view Nintendo as competition
Okay, what other lies does the Sony Man have for us this time?

>>712865652
Considering he's the schizo brainlet Brazilian Macaco, Fisher price is one of the more famous baby brands for baby toys in Latin America

>>712866835
These niggas spout retarded talking points because they truly believe what Sony's saying, not necessarily out of fnaboyism, but Snoy's shitty propaganda is what they seriously believe to be true

Half the people here in /v/ have a critical lack of self awareness, that goes double for graphic fags, snoys and "mature" gamers

>>712841771
>tembo and giga wrecker weren't on Nintendo consoles at first
That's because nobody gives a shit about those games

copeny

test

>>712845613
College Football and COD sold more copies on PS5 each than every single game sold in the Japanese market combined in 2024