Thread 712891845

>What is better: to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?
I like how the game doesn't actually answer this idiotic question

>>712891845 (OP)
if its so idiotic you should be able to answer it pretty easily anon

I would suck Paarthurnax's cock.

>>712893424
Since when do dragons have genders?

>>712893208
does it matter?

>>712893460
When I willed it into existence.

>>712891845 (OP)
Both lead to the same result, so is up to you if you value more something that was already good or something that worked for it

>>712893703
you say it because you're brown and you are evil by nature, the few non whites who are civilized are famous for that very reason but let me ask you this Jamal ibn Ahmed Xin Ping - is it better to be healthy or go through arduous rehabiliation?

>>712893849
Muttoid you need help, and no, MCdonalds isn't help

>>712891845 (OP)
What is Skyrim's story even about?

>>712894067
seethe

P.S meds aren't white either Mariano Paparazzi

>>712893483
REEEEEEEE!

>>712894147
unironically it all boils down to
>big evil dragon wants to destroy the world
>in order to stop him another token good dragon helps you
and that's it
no plot twists

>>712894285
Yeah i know i played but what i was asking is what did it even try to tell? like what were you supposed to be left with after you finished it?
They try to give some shitty semi plot twist at the very end with "oooh maybe the world was meant to end and alduin was part of the natural cycle and you might've fucked up" but it never goes beyond that

>>712891845 (OP)
I'd dragonrend the evil nature from his cock and balls until oblivion can hear his shouts of ecstacy if you know what I mean

>>712891845 (OP)
Evil doesn't exist but let's assume it does.

The person that struggled has knowledge of how a mind of a single evil person worked and knows of at least one way to fight one's nature which could be applied to others. However, it's not necessarily applicable to others and isn't strictly necessary in order to help others change their ways. A once evil entity probably caused harm to others while one that was always good probably didn't. It is implied the once evil entity is now good but it's not explicitly stated; they might've become something in between.
"Good" is also not well defined.

While overcoming one's nature is commendable, it can be said it's better to be born good. Effort is not, by itself, a virtue.

>>712891845 (OP)
Born good is better.

>>712894147
Dragons... go kill em..... when you get around to it..... or don't.
Don't overthink it.

>>712894147
Breking the cycle of world reincarnation by having a really boring fight with a dragon that was going to hit the reset button.

>>712891845 (OP)
dragon deez nuts

It's up to you to think about it. To me, the latter is better for many reasons. People who are good by default may not understand how evil works, and be taken advantage by it. They might also just be "good" by the virtue of never having been tested by circumstances in life. A rehabilitated villain will have a better understanding of himself and morality in general because they had to gain wisdom to overcome evil.

>>712893849
Is the journey important? Does it make you stronger for having had to overcome and learn? It makes a difference

>>712894147
Skyrim was founded by ancient Nords killing all the local dragons who ruled the realm, but they had to send the leader dragon, Alduin, forward in time because they could not beat him. They wrote a prophecy that Alduin will come back because they knew they sent him to the future. Now, we have come to that future year where Alduin was sent, and it appears the god of time Akatosh has granted you a dragon’s soul so you might beat Alduin, and you do.
It’s a little neat

>>712894340
What does morrowind or oblivion try to tell?

>>712894340
That your character is the actual Jesus Christ of the setting sent down to save the world from the time-eating Satan Dragon who’s tied to the origins of the realm of man by being their ancestral enemy they had not been able to fully defeat, until you come. It’s an exercise in lore and living mythology expressed through an epic northern quest, designed to make clear you are creating history the same way the people in the past did.

>>712898303
Morrowind - ancient cultural wound that has plagued a race for thousands of years, the eucatastrophe of you finally resolving it. Imagine living in this time, it’s like recovering the arc of the covenant
Oblivion - decay of a once great empire as it suffers both within and from the outside, the greatest of men such as Traven, Uriel and Martin sacrifice themselves so the world might live another day. The true duty of a leader

>>712894340
>oooh maybe the world was meant to end
mario accepts the answer "i don't want it to end" as a valid point

>>712891845 (OP)
Because it's deliberately moronic.
Nature or nurture is still debated. Answer that and you'll be a step closer to answering your own dumb shit.

>>712891845 (OP)
Right but why should I even trust Dragon Mario here anyway? Dragons are snakes, schemers, haughty creatures. He was Alduin's 2nd in command. He helped you defeat him so he could take over and lead the dragons "to make them learn to be good."

Am I supposed to believe that when even after I still get attacked by the sky lizards? He fucking played you. I get it, that for gameplay purposes, you have to keep the dragons around but still I like to theorize.

>>712894147
dragon bad
kill dragon

You guys aren’t media literate about this and you take tone and scene for granted

>>712894147
>skyrim's story is such mind-numbing trash that all the replies got it wrong
Skyrim's story is about a dragon god who abandons his role of destroying the world in favor of ruling the world instead. To defeat him, you need to acquire the ULTIMATE WEAKNESS of all dragons: an almighty shout from the distant past. This terrifying shout makes dragons... land on the ground... without meaning to!!! And this is the main MacGuffin that the entire story revolves around.

>>712891845 (OP)
You can argue that the second one is true.
But commiting atrocities and then going "Oh I greatly regret it now" doesn't mean punishment should be avoided.

>>712899849
Good service can be penance

>>712891845 (OP)
> Hitler is totally sorry now so we should be cool with him.

Paarth gets the axe because he deserves it. Only weak willed individuals refuse this simple truth.

>>712899656
If that is all your brain could comprehend it is no wonder you think Bethesda's writing is bad.

I bet you think Morrowinds story was a trip to a volcano to destroy the macguffin that the big bad needed to reach full power. Or was that Lord of the Rings?

>>712902305
Morrowind's story isn't that special. It's strength is the weird world and the ambiguity that let's you come to your own conclusions.

>>712902718
> The story isn't good but if you pretend it is it is.
Huh? You sound like a hipster talking about jazz. "It isn't the notes they play, it is the notes they don't play."

>>712902305
kys rolstonfag

>>712902963
You really do miss him don't you?

>>712894285
>>big evil dragon wants to destroy the world
>>in order to stop him another token good dragon helps you
wrong
>big dragon created with a specific purpose succumbs to his nature and tries to dominate the world, setting himself and his followers up as rulers
>in order to stop him his younger brother, a dragon who rose above his nature, helps you to defeat him and restore order to the cosmos