>Blizzard
>incompetent
>unmotivated
>DEI
>woke
>troon employees
>can't make good games
>100's of private wow servers exist
>file copyright strikes against a private wow server they fear the most
Why can't they just compete by making better games?

>>712900045 (OP)
is project epoch good? i remember it being in "development" for years and kept getting delayed.

There's no need for transphobia in your post to make your point.

So when is this getting released?

>>712900151
Do you say the same when blizzard and other game devs force faggotry in their games, trailers, announcements, social media, etc. to make a point? it's a two way street

>>712900045 (OP)
>step on big company copyrighted material
>take no precautions
>'oh no, we're getting pushback'
ok

>>712900045 (OP)
nice finally a great wow private server that isn't made by an insufferable trann-

>>712900503
You know there are many private servers and videos on private servers on youtube, right? blizzard targeting project epoch because they are threatened

>>712900564

Making better games requires skill, sueing people is a benefit only the rich can enjoy. If you are poor, you lose the case.

>>712900738
this didnt have to be a faggotjak

>>712900149
It's coming out on the 26th of july but looks very promising.

>private-slop

>>712900779
That's true, but I find that wojak in particular really funny.

>>712900687
they just said they're doing the whole classic plus stuff now that sod ended, what did people expect?

>>712900045 (OP)
>Stole game assets and game ideas
>NOOOO, why are you deleting my hecking videinos!
No shit, faggot

>>712900151
No ones afraid of troons. There's not even such a thing as trans. You haven't transformed into a woman. You will always be a faggot.

>>712900815
this nigga pays blizzard monthly to play vidya

is turtle good?

>>712900825
Keep posting what makes you happy anon. The trannies can get fucked. Wojak used to be ours.

>>712900738
Context is someone asking about built in quest helper or quest addons

>>712900045 (OP)
>Blizzard and retail players on suicide watch?
check
>troondle players crying over Epoch already ?
check
>namefags trying to keep their cattle to stay with them turtle
check
looking forward to release

>>712900983
If by "good" you mean 90% chinese population. Tranny devs and GMs who power trip CONSTANTLY(no seriously) and perma ban for the biggest bs reasons, and sell BiS accounts. Then sure its good.

>>712900347
no, blizzard is /ourcompany/

>>712901109
-> >>712900339

>>712900045 (OP)
>PvE server
Good riddance

>>712901108
Twow still haven't recovered from the chink invasion?

I'm using this as an excuse to ask
thoughts on ascension wow?

>>712901108
>90% chinese population
this isn't true at all

>Tranny devs and GMs who power trip CONSTANTLY(no seriously) and perma ban for the biggest bs reasons, and sell BiS accounts
how's this any different than blizzard themselves?

>>712900045 (OP)
Isn't the actual code used for WoW private servers just an open-source attempt at reverse engineering the original game (i.e. Blizzard does not own it)? Is there a reason these modders dont just make a new MMO with it instead of slapping Blizzard assets on top of it every time? TurtleWoW sort of does this except it's still a WoW server

I had interest at first, then this shilling started.

>>712900851
epoch has been in the works before sod was even a thing retard-kun

>>712901307
how's that relevant for anything?

>>712901265
>classless server
>look inside
>classes

>>712901305
this, any time other people get hyped for something I lose interest

>>712900503
there are millions of wow videos and no one cares
suddenly they get awfully picky, coincidence? I dont think so

>>712901265
funserver tier. they've completely lost the plot and their developers are completely retail-brained and filling the server with dogshit systems and RNG

>>712901275
>how's this any different than blizzard themselves?
>b-bu-but blizzard does it too

Also its not a lie. The majority is chinks.

>>712901275
>how's this any different than blizzard themselves?
i also don't play modern blizzard's dogshit
this isn't the epic own you thought it was

>>712901265
Fun server. Freedom of speech is allowed. No p2w shit. No tranny devs/GMs. I'll happily shill for it cus ive played for many years. Ive a friend who shitposts jews on global chats daily and only gotten muted like 3 times when he goes extreme overboard. Never banned either kekw

>>712901265
I don't like it, feels like retail but you grind autistically for a minmaxed build over and over hoping for getting the right skills you want to make some op build. One thing I like about vanilla is you aren't doing retarded high numbers worth of damage.

>>712900286
July 26

Gee it's almost like someone went and mass reported their videos, perhaps someone with a similar server who fears potential competition...

>>712901759
retail

>>712901251
Twow made a chink server and forced chinks to migrate to it. I haven't seen chinks on Twow in a long time.

>>712901759
no way

>>712901746
Thats only on the elune server which is just a seasonal server that gets deleted and your character transfered. On the area52 server you get to pick your skills, no rng shit.

>>712901759
you mean retail classic? yeah

>>712900687
>>712901549
Anyone can make a claim. It's an automated process.

>>712901265
Only good private server.

>>712901829
Thats a complete horseshit lie. They havent forced shit and they still have over 50% chinks on the "english" servers.

Makes them look like schizo retards if they truly believe Blizzard gives a fuck.

>>712901619
>>712901661
one you pay for one is free, retard

>>712901895
Go ahead and start posting the same 2 pictures of the tranny admins to keep shitposting mate.

Sars do not redeem illegal servers, plese play classic and buy gold from my bot business, thank you sars

>>712901278
why make a new mmo that's going to be like wow instead of just making a better wow

>>712901965
free dogshit is still dogshit

>>712901278
and the art and assets just magically phase into existence yeah?
also blizzard cultists unironically have no interest in playing anything that isn't warcraft

>>712901868
except this isn't anyone, it's blizzard themselves

>>712901895
post screenshots of your chink population proof

>>712901958
>blizzard doesn't care!
>>712902106

>>712901278
What >>712902097 said
both the assets, and the unironical nostalgia for wow

>>712901278
>>712902097
Why would anyone play your homebrew game with some of the worst fucking gameplay known to man attached to it?

>>712900781
Holy shit it's been like 3 years. What the fuck?

>>712901278
Having access to all the wow source code and all of its assets means they can basically build whatever they want with the tool set.
The real problem is Turtle WoW used the vanilla client which really limited them and is forcing them to port it over to unreal engine 5 to be able to have more control in what they can and cant do.
Epoch is using the wrath client which means the clients less janky and more powerful but also they have access to everything from vanilla to wrath asset wise to build all sorts of cool shit like you can see in the WC and DM redesigns.
Also, using the source code to wow to just scrub everything out of it from skills, classes to all the assets is completely retarded.

>>712902375
how did they get access to wow source code + other blizz shit?

>>712900983
Yeah it's good. The faggot who replied to you first has an autistic hatred of Turtle for unknown reasons.

>>712901975
>>712902204

Anyone can make an account and see for themselves as they interact with others.

I see torta troon and his faggot gm friend is up early today eh?

Kys torta you will never be a woman.

>>712902310
I mean they have put in a lot of work honestly, there isn't a zone that they haven not added anything to, a ton of changes to existing dungeons and some new ones, raids, quests, professions etc...

>>712902437
Don't know, probably reverse engineered by some autist or a leak happened.

when are boomers going to grow up and stop playing wow?

>>712902567
never
blizzard groomed them into being good little cultists who can't consume anything but blizzslop

>>712900339
>>712900045 (OP)
Ion has always been a shit muncher that doesn't understand the game. Even before he was hired by blizzard his entire asshat guild were 'STOP HAVING FUN IN WAYS I DON'T APPROVE OF' cunts.

>>712902448
No its not torta. Your server is diarrhea

>>712902567
When someone actually makes a good mmo (it isn't happening).

>>712902310
Feature creep and merging 3 versions of the game into 1 creates a lot of bugs

>>712902634
Keep seething you autistic little basement dweller

>>712900045 (OP)
can we run this locally or do we have to use their shit servers?

classic andies ruin everything bros. it's not enough that they killed private servers so they could play on a worse private server that costs money but now they are running the only good thing we've had in years by shilling it on reddit, youtube, discord, twitch etc. there are failed "content creators" who couldn't make it in classic trying to make a name for themselves on epoch
wish we could go back in time when this game was played for fun

>>712902540
they banned you for being a fag now you're butthurt

>>712902685
The only one angry here is you. Everytime an epoch wow thread pops up you're in here with your fellow troon GMs shilling for your diarrhea water server.
Again, kys you will never be a woman you axe wound freak.

>>712900151
you are mentally ill you freak

>>712902738
Shut up nerd

>>712901759
Turtle's channel got deleted too after the UE5 video.

>>712902567
name another mmo worth playing

>>712902769
Had i been a fag they would've welcomed me with open arms. I'd probably been made a GM.

>>712902814
I haven't participated in a single epoch thread, keep seething though boogeyman autist

troondle leave

>>712902893
You're not convincing anyone tortafag

>>712900151
>transphobe
This is like calling racists negrophobes.

epoch will fail they hardly changed the classes at all.
No shaman tank?
lmao dead on arvival

Someone prove to me that this isn't Whitekidney or Shenna with another rugpull, show me their donation structure and where the company is based out of (probably Cyprus). Until otherwise this thread is literally just turtlewow shills pretending Epoch isn't also Turtlewow

So, real q. When are they going after turtle wow

>>712902836
you will never be a "content creator" and you will never make a living doing gdkps on a private wow server. go back to your zoomcleave o algo

>>712902938
You're like a retarded monkey dance for me, little monkey

>>712902993
No shaman tank is the only thing im disappointed with, they did let you be a 2 handed shaman again though.

>>712903004
They have sent them a few C&D's. they just ignore them.

>>712903004
Honestly, I hope they just go after Turtle because of how obnoxious the team is. Sucks for the actual players, but what an insufferable group of faggots.

>>712903017
What part of "shut up nerd" didn't you understand?

>>712903047
what about the warlock changes? destro keystone being sacrifice and no felguard?

It's okay if anyone except Nintendo does it

>>712901829
You're a fucking liar, anon. Those bugs are still hacking, too.

>>712902021
because there are extremely obvious limitations to using an IP someone else owns? They could make a better WoW and just not use the actual assets or call ot WoW

>>712903083
>no felguard
?
https://www.project-epoch.net/classes/talents/

>>712903004
turtle is based in some eastern euro shitblock, they wipe their asses with C&D.
>>712903085
fuck nintendo

>>712902997
You may very well be right.

>>712903127
Ah they added it back finally.

>>712902624
he was never supposed to know anything about the game
he used to be a lawyer. his job is to do PR for the jeets behind the scenes

>>712900564
>>712901068
so how does that make them trannies

>>712903127
okay they added it back. forgive me after 3 years I wasn't following every update.
they had removed it before.

>>712903054
How are they able to ignore them while everyone else gets shut down?

>>712901412
keked
>>712901607
>>712901725
>>712901746
>>712901882
thank you for the responses anons, i appreciate it
if you don't mind me asking a second question, how's the community? like interacting with it, grouping with randoms for dungeons, raids, etc.

>>712903083
Drain Soul does like double the damage, consumes mana per tick and has exucute, some other affli buffs

>>712902375
I just fucking explained it's NOT the WoW source code, it's an open-source, crowd-accumulated codebase/source that most private servers use that mirrors WoW as close as possible, the only actual genuine WoW code that is used (to my knowledge) is that of the actual client, but everything else is just something a huge group of autists made over time

>>712900045 (OP)
>100s of private wow servers exist
>vanilla vanilla vanilla vanilla vanilla
how many times can you play this shit?
why isn't there one server out there that makes MoP better or turns WoD into what it was supposed to be
just the same annoying retards playing 1-60 classic over and over and over for 20 years straight

>>712903291
Because they host in places where they cant ignore them.

>>712903138
>>712903004
Turtle website is registered/hosted in Iceland and all of their servers (Esylium, Vanilla+ etc) donation structures are to a larger company which is based in Cyprus.

Shenna herself is either Ukranian or Russian and when she steals your credit card info from the donation you made it will be used to purchase some underwear from some eastern euro Tommy Hilfiger type store

Just play Turtle WoW

t. shadow priest with pre UKH BIS

>>712902375
they don't have the source code are you fucking insane?
it's either mangos or azerothcore,

>>712903310
Theres a lot of fun people but theres also a lot of WoW-types. You know suoer antisocials

>>712903267
>insufferable
check
>wow pserver dev
likely a check

>>712903436
hows the player population?
suggest a good class that's fun.
should I play shadow priest?

>>712901746
>He plays on Elune

>>712903345
turtle and epoch are vanilla+ meaning it's not just classic, but classic with updates

it's no different than old school runescape with updates or if bethesda released more content for skyrim

>>712900151

>>712901746
>>712903540
elune seems like the most fun server with roguelike aspect, but im more interested in their CoA and Classic + servers. when are those comming out?

>>712903415
Shenna aka torta is a man.

>>712903415
pretty sure its like Kazakhstan

>>712903345
People like vanilla the most and want to play more vanilla which is why people had to go to blizzcon and beg for blizzard to let them pay them to play it again.
Also if you like vanilla you tend to enjoy the leveling experience and these servers have stuff like new dungeons or quests or race / class combos to make it slightly different.

>>712900045 (OP)
What did this retards expect? Honestly...
Don't you all remember Nostalrius? It's been proven that blizzard will shut down any meaningful project.
And this idiots keep making big promotional videos and announcements all over the internet. Don't be surprised if they shut it down within a week of release. What a waste of time and resources.

>>712903521
Dead on the English side. Filled with chinks to the brim. In fact their main clientele atm is chinks. Most english users have quit because of it.

>>712903676
wtf that's awful

>>712903650
esl post

>>712903620
how many times you gonna say torta in this thread anon, we don't care, the server is free

>>712903521
booming since recent patch
Shadow priest is tweaked a bit so its very viable

Honestly Disc Priest DPS or melee hunter are most fun right now.

>>712903345
Because everything past vanilla is literally just raidlogging, and that's the only reason to play them. Meaning the only new possible content they could add is a new raid and that would be retarded.

>>712903521
it's one of the biggest servers and probably the best one, don't listen to that fag spamming about "torta" and "chinks"

>>712903709
I can give you free diarrhea if you want. Want it?

>>712903676
what are you talking about, all the chinks are on the chink server, english servers have 12k+ on at most times. SW and Org are always packed.

>>712903620
No, Shenna is 100% a eastern euro woman, crogge has been hidden for so long that nobody really considers him part of the show but he's undoubtedly still around.

>>712903650
>Nostalrius
blizzard bought them, and they sold out

>>712903521
The pop averages on 10K on the pve server.
Most people play paladins because they were buffed a lot.
Anyone talking about chinks or trannies is just a shit poster.

>>712903802
>defending the tranny

Thanks for proving you're turtle troons. Go make your own thread like you did 2 days ago. Faggot

>>712903650
Nice try Blizzard shill, but Nostalrius didn't get shut down they sold themselves out.

>>712903841
Most people play paladin because one of the devs is a paladin main and sucks at the game and keeps buffing them and refusing to nerf back to original stats. Why dont you say the whole story you turtle troon?

>>712900045 (OP)
>Why can't they just compete by making better games?
Same reason modders and fangame makers can't compete with original games.

>>712900045 (OP)
I vowed to never play a private server again, but that did look genuinely very impressive. The trailer just kept going on and on with new content.
Gives me a vain hope that, maybe, Classic+ could actually be not-shit (it's going to be shit). Surely it's not hard to make new content when everything is so low poly, and there's one unique line of VA per dungeon at best.

>>712903650
Nostalrius shut down on their own thinking blizzard would give them dev jobs. Blizzard has no way of doing anything to a server unless the owners are dumb enough to host it in america. All they can do is throw a hissy fit like this one and coppy strike youtube or other social platforms.

>>712903809
>>712903650
>nost
>literal babbies first unscripted buggy overpopulated server
>entire dev team was selling gold and items/charaters in true Crogge/Shenna fashion
>Blizzard invites these money grubbing retards in
>These money grubbing retards don't bring their entire crew
>the crew they don't bring gets the entire private server scam exposed

>>712903925
>Warrior still top DPS chart
Shut the fuck up, brownie scum

>>712903992
>I vowed to never play a private server again
why

>2025
>playing wow
wow...

>>712904048
something wrong with playing old games? tell us what you play anon

>>712903345
Because it's the simplest to work with.

After wotlk, their clients are increasingly more difficult and complex to mod.

>>712903857
>stating a fact is defending shenna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4jv6li0N7k
this video was made before you even played on any of these servers, Shenna is a very ugly woman

>>712900983
It's okay but i quit years ago when they were hacked (i think they were hacked several times) and the GMs couldn't properly restore my items. I guess it's my fault for registering on their stupid website with the same account details but still.

Also i felt like it was a bit p2w with how you could buy 36 slot bags for real money and stuff like that.

>>712903521
Look here man. Notice all the shills know exact server stats and how many "supposedly" play. (Not the first time private servers exagerate numbers) these shills are the turtle GMs themselves. They've been doing this for many days now everytime an epoch thread pops up. The turtle engine is also heavily rumored to have a cryptojack which is why theres so many complaints of microstuttering while playing the game. Thats the whole reason they want you to play the "free" server. Even if you dont donate theyre still getting money from your gpu.

That said. Go ahead and play their diarrhea server if you want. But i heavily recommend you to not grow attached to your character. The GMs there are known to power trip and abuse and permaban you for anything and i DO mean anything. One guy had his character deleted cus he never talked to anyone.

All in all, plenty of private servers to go around.

>>712900339
Reminder this guy was a Wilmer hale DOJ stooge, the top positions at actiblizz is full of literal glownigs (hence the lgbt shit)

>>712904179
>Notice all the shills know exact server stats
>10k
>12k
>exact

>>712904031
>doesnt prove me wrong
>but warrior still top dps xdd gotcha

Fucking retard turtle troon

>>712904306
Ah yes the torta approved
>tell everyone our numbers are 10k or 12k
Routine.

You turtle scum are nothing but detritus.

BROOOS I CANT WAIT ONE MORE MONTH AAAAAAAAAAAAAA RELEASE IT NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>712904089
was this suppose to be funny? an entire channel dedicated to private server people

I'm gonna play a dwarf shaman named Lilrichnigga

>>712904528
It's more of a documentary

If this is using TBC balance, does that mean other tanks than warrior can actually tank at higher levels?

>>712904627
It's not using tbc balance, just the tbc talent shell. You can just look it up on their site, they have all the spells and changes.

>>712904496
It's just 39 days left, stay strong brother. Soon we'll able to go home.

>>712904740
Shit I meant to upload this.

>>712902567
only MMO that ever felt like it had potential to actually rival WoW was WaR, I even stopped subbing to WoW. The Realm vs Realm combat was fun, you could actually level up by just doing PvP. I was camping early Greenskin zones with a dwarf engineer specced to toss grenades at everything (with a grenade launching turret) terrorized lowbies for a good chunk of time lol. Armor could be dyed and the game just felt great (also you couldnt move through another player so lets say to Blackorcs could stand in a tunnel and block the thing) raiding other players forts and pop-up group quests with 'zones' that gave loot to everyone depending on how much they contributed

and then EA pulled the plug 1 expansion pack in.

>>712904627
yeah most likely

>>712904740
>>712904785
I mean that's pretty accurate private server game play.

>>712900339
imagine giving money to this clown

So we're all going undead paladins right?

>>712904740
>Spamming nigger
Bros I'm excited to go home

What makes this server good or different?

>>712904740
Someone got perma banned with a smile that day

>>712900781
stupid to release the same time as Ascension WoW

>>712904953
If you're literate in anyway you can answer your own questions here

https://www.project-epoch.net/

>>712905010
Too many words on their website.

>>712900045 (OP)
That's how copyright works retard. It's literally how it works. As long as blizztards keep paying for the slop that is official servers they'll just go after these non stop. They lose nothing.

>>712905005
I play on ascensions bronzebeard server. Its ehh.
Theyre clearly trying to compete against epoch but epoch has 3 years of development over them. Im definitely trying epoch.

>>712904997
he probably made a post on /v/ saying
>say word
>money stolen

>>712905010
>Battle shout is still 2 minutes
cringe, why in the fuck does someone think this is good design to keep?

>>712904196
the nose knows

>>712904081
thank you, a real answer

>>712905149
You fuckers get bladestorm, you cannot complain.

>>712905113
copyright is a meme

>>712904046
It always ends in disappointment.
I miss my homies from the one I played for ~6 months, it was all taken away in an instant.

>>712901305
A sure sign that the server will turn into a desert in a couple of weeks
/thread

>>712903676
Bullshit, there is even australian guilds and mine (which isn't the biggest aussie guild) has over 50 people sign up for Naxx now.

>>712900045 (OP)
Just don't steal next time, pretty simple

>>712905330
it is, but that's how it works, Blizzard could literally pay some indian lawyers and copyright scare daily all the private servers

>>712900045 (OP)
Wow if it had Soul:

Alliance:
High Elves, Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes
Expansion: Draenei (the cool ones) or Draenei (Actually Eredar)

Horde:
Trolls, Orcs, Tauren, Goblins
Expansion: Ogres/Mok'Nathol or Pandaran

Sentinels
Night Elves, Furbolgs, Wildkin, Keepers of the Grove/Dryads (probably biped equivalent)
Expansion: Redeemed Satyrs or Tuskarr

Nonplayable:
Undead, Blood Elves, etc
3 Factions, simple themes, The pretty faction, the monster faction, and the furries

This looks pretty fun.

>>712901265
Systems on top of systems on top of systems on top of systems. Shit is overly complex and feels like an Asian F2P MMO. Also:
>Level scaling

>>712900151
You don't need a particular reason to be transphobic.
Transphobia is its own reward.

>1.12.1 content with 2.4.3 class balancing on a 3.3.5 client
the fuck?

>>712900045 (OP)
Why not just C&D the whole server? Unless it's hosted in slavland like Turtle and DMCAing a Youtube video is all they can do. Which is pretty fucking funny if true

>>712905629
Still after 20 years, alliance-frogs are still mad they didn't get Blood elves

>>712905629
>Wow if it had Soul
>Gnomes
Stopped reading right there.

>>712905983
>Unless it's hosted in slavland like Turtle

>>712906071
Every race needs one worst option. It's what makes the other options better.

>>712906071
gnomes were in warcraft before you were born, zoomer

>>712901234
>pvp in 2026

>>712906039
Let's be honest, Horde only got the, because their faction was dying. Given horde elves allows them to be "outcast" and "pretty" basically a tranny farm.

>>712906160
You love to see it

There was a peak in WoW and we are long past those days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz6j-W7QUCg

>>712906224
why do people no longer like PVP?

>>712904740
>>712904997

>>712906189
I was born in 95, gnomes are fucking weird and ugly and most people don't like them.

>>712905010
>introducing exciting pairings like the Dwarf Shaman and Undead Paladin.
ahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

NOPE

>>712906316
Because most people understand world PvP is bad and provides nothing interesting.

>>712900045 (OP)
Are they adding more quests to Silverpine so I don't have to go to the barrens every time I play as horde?

>>712906534
They're adding more quests yeah.

>>712906534
Apparently, if the info on their site is to be believed, there's nearly 1000 new quests, so probably yeah.

>>712900687
>blizzard targeting project epoch because they are threatened
>Multibillion dollar company threatened by a small project

Guys, What level of delusion is this?

>>712906534
Yes. They also added a reputation system similar to Tranquillien from BC to both Silverpine and Darkshore with good rewards like green shoulders and a blue ring at exalted to incentivize people to level there.

>>712906606
>>712906625
Nice.

>>712906637
>delusion
You don't remember nintendo doing this kind of shit constantly to fangames? Why wouldn't blizzard send a dmca to a classic+ private server, especially now that blizzard is making their own classic+?
Blizzard has always been ran by greedy niggers like when they tried to sue valve over Dota 2 by saying since dota 1 was made as a WC3 mod they should own it and its why in WC3 reforged it makes it so any custom games you make in it blizzard owns.

>wowoids still chasing the dragon 20 years later just so they can suck the fun out of the game once more and ruin it in 2 weeks

>>712906370
lmao

>>712900045 (OP)
Based Blizzard, Epoch looks like shit

>>712900045 (OP)
>Why can't they just compete by making better games?

they have 13000 employees, imagine how fucking rotten that company is with needless woke hires. From Software has 400 employees. I'd imagine every decision at Blizzard goes through 20 feminist and that's why they can't make any good games anymore, on top of that they literally canceled all their good developers and only hired woke fucking retards.
Current Blizzard is just a fat rotten corpse someone needs to put to an end.

>

>>712906637
>what is nostalrius
Why do you retard talk about stuff you know nothing about? Just shut up if you can't add anything and you don't know shit you retarded child.

QRD?
I only play on Ascension because it's the only one doing something different other than "muh vanilla" or "muh teebeesee" or "muh wootalk".
Man I miss old UO pservers and their retarded but fun faggotry.

>>712907243
>"waaah the dungeons are to hard"
>you're shit at the game and your gears shit
Based

>>712907243
How do dungeons get harder by adding TBC talents and abilities????

>>712906637
>Multibillion dollar company threatened by a small project
Blizzard is no longer able, or willing, to operate competently. It makes sense that it would be at risk of losing customers to people who are.

>>712907421
Because retards are still playing the characters and tbc talents and abilities doesn't mean tbc damage. Everything has been scaled down to vanilla and made harder ontop.

>>712907123
13,000 people in the woke army.

>>712907243
imagine imposing gear requirements on fucking leveling content
yeah sorry you can't join our RFC run, you're still using whites on some slots, should've researched which quests to do, now you're gonna do them all and overlevel the dungeon. sorry buddy!
LMAO this server is gonna be dead within days

you can use backported Weakaura addon on Epoch unlike Troondle

>>712907536
goodbye server

>>712900738
Every jak is an extremely low quality post.

>>712907430
>threatened
they're not threatened, they're just eager to steal their ideas and make tons of money, just like with nostalrius and classic

Time to get those quality of life addons ready

>>712907421
they're making every dungeon on par with a TBC heroic.
dont want to cc that lv 11 trogg shaman in rfc?
guess you wipe.

>>712907692
>guess you wipe.
guess the server will wipe

I'm gonna make ERP addon

>>712907756
I agree unironically the point of nilla was it being so easy any retard could perform in it.

>>712907590
Classic was done by around 40 people. Can you imagine what 13000 people add to this company? With this many employees, they should shit out new games yearly. Compare that to From Software.

So why is this a thing when Classic exists?

>>712906637
small projects are doing what a gigantic company with thousands of employees can't do, they are not only threatened but humiliated. companies feel the death by 1000 cuts

>>712901278
You could at this point yeah, there is enough tooling now to just totally make a fully open source WoW-like with totally original assets, world map and content
People want to play modded WoW though, not Original The Game Online.
A homebrew WoW total conversion could be cool definitely but I doubt you will ever see one.

>>712907606
Most clientside addons work fine, so I'd assume yes.

>>712907885
Did you pass second grade reading class?

>>712907885
Because Classic is dogshit.
>no new content
>filled with bots and RMT
>layering
>$15 a month

>Challenge modes
I always enjoy these and then later they add more and I get demotivated because I enjoy playing one character, but hate missing out

>>712907421
>How do dungeons get harder by adding TBC talents and abilities????
They increased the HP, damage and added a bunch of additional mechanics. Some of the bosses like sneed hit significantly harder than anything in the deadmines while other bosses like smite had a new mechanic that would give you within 2 seconds if you didn't cheese the fight.

>>712907337
It's going to be vanilla+, it's going to be using tbc talents and abilities and it's going to be in the wrath client.
They've already shown about 6 new dungeons with some for leveling and some for end game and they've redesigned WC and dead mines, plus they're going to redesign Dire Maul when it drops.
They've shown two new raids with Uldum and Grim Batol.
Raids and dungeons get new bosses and new mechanics, stuff like the turtle in WC spins around and you have to dodge him which was really cool to see.
https://youtu.be/ZeFB19qBCEQ?t=385
It's not going to have a pay2win cash shop like turtle, it's just going to have cosmetics. Also if you hate faggots in transmog you can turn transmog off entirely.
Raids and dungeons are getting slight stat squishes so naxx gear isn't going to be retardly powerful and when they reach naxx they can make new gear without it being insanely more powerful.

>blizzard about to announce and launch a new classic fresh server
>blizzard sends out copyright strikes and cease and desist letters to all the private server hosts
>all the private servers get shut down
>blizzard announces and launches the server
>all the private server players subscribe and player the new blizzard server
AN ANNOUNCEMENT SOON BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

why aren't the turtle-wow and ascension-wow youtube channels struck down by Blizzard?

did Project Epoch forget to give Blizzard their cut?

>>712900151
>transphobia
We need a better word for this. No one fears the pedophile groomers except for children. The people on 4chan HATE trannies, not fear them

>>712907421
The betas had a level boost function to test later zones and dungeons, which gave you a set of greens that was basically 10 levels below you, so a bunch of retards boosted characters to level 45 on a class they have no idea how to play, while wearing level 30 greens, and went to do dungeons with 4 other retards like them thinking it was going to be a wrath aoe fest, then proceeded to eat shit. Clear enough for you?

>>712907421
new mechanics that are overtuned.

>>712908260
you know what's so funny about classic, that the company is eternal asshurt about it because nobody wants to play retail trash.

>>712908483
wow they're "reimagining" it just like cataclysm did, can't wait

>>712908483
>2/3rds hp
>standing in the fire
>not only standing in the fire, running entirely thru it from one side to the other
>die
No shit. It just looks like dungeons are also going to be a higher level minimum which is fine.

>>712908483
>run through fire at half health
>WOOOOW how was I supposed to know that would kill me that's so stupid A-A-A-A

>>712908216
WOW THEY REMADE WC JUST LIKE CATACLYSM DID!!!!11111
"CLASSIC"+ HERE WE COME!!!!

>Good map remodels
>3.3.5 client
>Class balance and new skills
>New and remade dungeons
>Good new quests
No wonder people who invested time on turtle are seething. This servers looks like it will be everything turtle promised, but never delivered

>>712908483
this looks like garbage

>>712908868
turtle never promised to be cata 2.0, in fact the point of turtle was to not go overboard with retarded "redesigns"

>>712908627
They aren't asshurt at all, its literally a money printer, its why Holly Longdale was hired for said money printer.
>1999 Everquest is still a money printer to this day
>Holly Longdale is responsible for said money printer
>Holly Longdale came up with the idea of re-releasing yearly servers with minor changes for the mentally ill to re-live nostalgia
>these people re-sub and pay to play every single new server
>blizzard sees this
>blizzard offers her the bag
>blizzard now has yearly event servers
Blizzard could LITERALLY re-release classic fresh servers yearly and these mentally ill people would come re-sub every single time and Everquest proved this.

>>712907606
>weakaura
>for vanilla+
you're the reason classic is such a shitshow with you troon retail addon
as if the game needed to be even easier, lmao
>I'm gonna minmaaaaaax a 20 years old game!
that's why classic is and will be shit forever, because of tards like this anon (and many others in this thread)

>>712904196
he’s also a jew

>>712908868
>>Good map remodels
yeah enjoy your goblin/gnome towns even more
>3.3.5 client
lol
>Class balance and new skills
Yeah TBC abilities are "new"
>New and remade dungeons
Just like cataclysm lmfao
>Good new quests
Just like cataclysm lmfao

>>712908974
>they aren't asshurt at all, its literally a money printer
>the company that said for years we will never get classic
>with their loyal cultist saying the same thing and how bad classic was and how it would never be successful

Why do you talk about stuff you know literally nothing about? You retarded underage. Fact is that nu-Blizzard employees were triggered over classic successful and outperforming their trash retail version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33NLcvCmnKA&t=82s

How many fucking WoW private servers are there? I've seen adds for them on fucking YouTube.

lmao it's just the youtube channel, Blizzard literally doesn't have any power to shut down the server when it launches. But I bet there will be ddos attacks from both Blizzard and Turtle, so Epoch better be ready.

>>712909174
>7 years ago
living in the past, blizz doesn't give a shit now.

>>712900045 (OP)
they just took down the youtube channel? the rest is still fine right?

>>712909341
yeah, he said for ion to cry about it

>>712900045 (OP)
>what if vanilla
>but we ruin it
Where have i seen this before?

>>712909291
>living in the past
You were wrong here buddy, that's the reality.
>blizz doesn't give a shit now.
yea, after they have 4 different versions of classic suing nostalrius and forcing them to shut down the server, while retail is a ghost town and only relevant the first 3 weeks in a expansion.

>another subhuman retard seething about addons

>>712909375
hows it ruined?

>>712909291
>now
bro, the last time blizz gave a shit was in 2007, before activision

>>712908216
this actually looks really good wtf?

>>712908483
this doesn't seem bad at all if you know it's coming
he does the charge, you move to the side, take maybe one tick of fire damage instead of dying like a retard

>>712909403
>baby retard can't use his pwecious wittle addons that play the 20 years old easy game for him

>>712909403
wait are they killing addons for this?

>>712900339
Early Life Check?

>>712900045 (OP)
It's been 21 years how many times are you people going to play through the exact same content with slight variations chasing the high you felt when you were a child

>>712900045 (OP)
>Another shitty WoW private server
As if there aren't a million of those already

>>712902875
>mmo worth playing
there are no mmos worth playing and that includes wow

>>712909716
people still buy pokemon games.

>>712909660
no, they're hands off on addons for this

>>712909807
Comparing yourself to pokemon players is not a good thing

>>712900045 (OP)
>round the clock shilling
pajeet/10

>>712900983
Ran by same grifter behind elysium who would constantly defend the rampant chinese population because she was selling gold to them and got caught.
If you're okay with that, then it's okay. I would sooner play it than pay for official classic.

>>712909737
There are very few that are worth playing, this one looks promising.

>>712907243
Who are they making this shit for? Clearly not the classic player base. Niggers are literally gonna be rage quitting in droves at fucking RFC and Deadmines.

There isn't a single thread on /v/ where the word tranny shill or pajeet has been used. /v/ is a sad sad place

>>712909716
The game is just addicting as fuck. It's crack in video games.

any good private servers?
>>712910037
what do those words mean?

>>712908343
>no replies to this post
this thread glows

>>712900687
they are targeted because they are promoting their shit
if you want to rip off companies you are supposed to keep it on the down low

>>712900151
> transphobia

Nobody is afraid of you faggots we just think your repulsive. Blizzard killed wow so hard their number one streamer became a political voice.

>>712910131
Genuine question, do you actually play other video games or do you pretty much only play wow

>>712909174
anyone would be pissed if they were a minwage codemonkey handling the "modern" version and everyone would rather play the flawed version from two decades ago

>>712901265
It's okay. Ascension is decent, I'd play there after they release the new branch of the server with new classes though. But for the meantime the best server is Azeroth at War which will open again in like five months. Funnest time I had in WoW in my whole life because of the community and the custom races.

>>712910197
only wowtards would be stupid enough to think some shut-in goblin who wipes his bloody boogers on the wall would know jack shit about the real world to make political commentary

>>712910228
I don't play wow at all anymore, it's a waste of time. I played Nightreign the last days.

>>712910228
There are people in this world that only play Blizzard games and it's very disheartening. They won't even entertain the idea of playing anything that isn't WoW or Diablo it's insane. I've had people try to tell me Diablo Immortal wasn't that bad of a mobile game.

>>712910242
CoA is rushed garbage. most specs play like reskinned specs from classic or retail and the "illusion of choice" retail talent tree faggotry is dogshit

>>712910026
Gatekeeping mouthbreathers is supposed to be a bad thing now?

I love when third world poorfags lose :3

>>712910429
>gatekeeping mouthbreathers le good actually
>WTF why is nobody joining my group? DEAD FUCKING SERVER

>>712910312
nigger i haven't played wow in over 4 years, i came here to laugh at faggots in here defending the trannyfied slop blizzard shits out.

>>712910429
This, I'm happy the worlds and dungeons will be harder. It means that dps shitters will understand at least basic mechanics like threat by the time I have to deal with them.

>>712910367
Compared to pretty much every other free mobile game the gameplay is good, but it's worse than other mobile games when it comes to monetization so it's not worth it

>>712910568
that does not relate to anything i said

>>712910596
Or it just means they'll feel more forced to buy max level accounts from the creators who are known to sell accounts. And then be even more clueless.

>>712910367
>I've had people try to tell me Diablo Immortal wasn't that bad of a mobile game.

The game is literally unplayable without spending money on it.
Blizzdrones are like Apple cultist, at best ignore everything they say. They are retarded corporation drones.

>>712910694
but enough about turtle

>>712909854
good, i can't imagine playing druid without a mana bar addon.

>>712909854
>want to make the game harder
>still let people cheat with addons
FUCKING RETARDS

>>712910429
There's gatekeeping and then there's making the tutorial difficult for some reason. It's fine if they made 40-50+ dungeons slightly harder but deadmines/RFC? Really? Why is smite spamming fire puddles that nuke your hp? Especially when your healer probably has no abilities to deal with it.

>>712911003
I never played on a private server. How easy is it to find compatible add-ons?

>>712911014
>the tutorial
Nigga 1-10 is the tutorial for this 20+ year old game everyones already played thousands of hours of, WC and DM are the first real tests. If you don't know how to press your like 3 buttons you have by the time you're in WC or DM you're just straight up mentally retarded like this jackass >>712908483
>>712908483

>>712910429
mmos are for mouth breathing dysgenic subhumans

>goes in a thread about things that make him mad
>gets mad and starts throwing shit everywhere

Why are /v/ermin like this?

>>712900151
Well done

Don't worry lads, I'll still gonna play Forsaken Ret Paladin!

Dark Lady watch over you

>>712911128
you just download addons for that specific client, so any addon made for wrath will work for epoch when it comes out.

>>712911128
Incredibly easy, unless you're looking for something hyper specific.
Both curse and wow interface had version control,I don't know if they still do but years ago people just downloaded them all and backed them up.
Pservers also run all on the last patch usually so it takes out any ambigiouuity on what versions you need, also if the version is popular enough people make modern addons or fix old addons.
very common with nilla and wotlk, less common with other versions of wow but still happens from time to time if some autist likes that version enough.
you could probably google it and find it.
now

>>712900045 (OP)
Ive played through all 3.5 Betas of this fuckass server and can tell you all that it's just powercrept bullshit for the sake of being new and "hard". Ive said this almost every Epoch thread in the past year.

>New content is new for the sake of being new: A new cave next to Undercity with 3 respective quests to kill peons, loot boxes, and kill the taskmaster, isn't fucking NEW. Instead of Vanilla+ it all feels like Cataclysm quests, in a straight chain in the same zone, and all in small hubs/in same areas for convenience, sound familiar?
>On the other hand, the REAL interesting quests are done enough: Reworking the entirety of Makriks Wife quest chain to be more than one thing. Nice way to spice up the quest we know, but also make it new. In 3 fucking Beta's this is the only 'remastered quest'. Missed opportunities regarding most quests. Some quests that ended on cliffhangers DID get followups, but cliffhangers were few and far between in Vanilla.
>Gear sucks so fucking bad that walking into 5-man dungeons with Quest greens is a slap to the face. Dev's have said plenty of times that it'll feel better with custom Epoch gear that they've hidden from us so far, but that just proves powercreep is happening.
>Dungeons range from annoying to fucking cancer. Most of the dungeons required specific comps like no melee/dispells/poison dispells/rogue to unlock door INSIDE, constant niche things that NEED to be dealt with.
>Class balance is already looking to be insanely busted. Im looking to main Priest and we have so much tools and utility that it might not even be worth going any other healer class, it's a joke

I'll play it but Im not going to wear the rose tinted goggles. It's going to be another tryhard fuckery like Classic was.

>>712911291
Dude healers are oom casting like 5 rank 1 heals while leveling. Which is enough to heal all those people once hence why he's probably even half hp in the first place.
Making low level shit hit harder and have more hp in general is retarded because you have no tools to deal with anything outside of long CD hp pots.

>>712900045 (OP)
What's their lore justification for undead paladins? Furthermore why were undead priests ever allowed? Wouldn't their own abilities destroy them?

no thanks i'm going to continue playing my Single Player Project private server where i don't have to rely on other retards creating drama or going afk or quitting the game after getting their loot or refusing to help anyone else out unless there's something in it for them thanks
the worst part of WoW is other players and that goes for both retail and pservers

>>712911634
same reason undead priests are a thing, they just power thru the pain. undead paladins new racial seal is based around that which is pretty cool.

>>712903291
You only have to give a fuck about it if its running where its enforced.

>>712911539
Epootrannies have no real answer to this lmao
DoA

>>712911634
>What's their lore justification for undead paladins?
they don't need one there's like atleast 2 undead paladins in vanilla. sir zelik and some guys in the argent dawn.
> Furthermore why were undead priests ever allowed?
same reason female druids got allowed or male night elf priests got allowed, blizzard thought it'd be weird if undead priests could only use shadow no matter how much sense it made.
it doesn't destroy them but does hurt them and burn them internally.

>>712909174
You realize retail entered maintenance mode right?
>blizzard starts doing classic releases
>money graph skyrockets
>blizzard looks at retail releases
>money graph way way down =(
>blizzard announces retail will no longer be releasing expansions as they have been but instead drip feed release them AKA retail is entering maintenance mode
War Within released in August 26, 2024, it got zero new content until season 2 March 4th 2025 which was cut BFA content and since March 4th its gotten nothing else added to it other then MORE BFA content which was them re-adding visions which was timegated for over a month and the hype "content" for the next quote on quote "expansion" they are releasing is them adding SHELVES

>>712911630
>Dude healers are oom casting like 5 rank 1 heals while leveling.
I've always noticed this blizzard are niggers.

Is the war within worth playing you guys got me back on wow.

>>712911987
no, retails absolute trash

>>712911914
It's almost like you get more abilities/gear options/lower rank heals to use when you level. The only solution to doing this is to make low level healers gods which is what happens in retail.

>>712909669

Father may be greek, but his mother is Jewish. Don't be fooled by his last name.

>>712911634
That one paladin in naxx (sir zelick or whatever) is the entire justification for it. One unique case means any mere undead can now be a paladin apparently. Even zelick existing is treads that fine line but they make an exception in his case. Paladins (the anti undead/demon specialist) are supposed to be so devoted to the light that being reanimated would be an affront to everything they hold sacred and would just kill themselves anyway
Priests are a little different since they aren't "infused" with the Light like paladins are. They can manipulate it and when undead Priests do so it hurts them. Their flesh attempts to heal then rots every time they cast a holy spell. An undead paladin would just fucking explode

>>712906160
>One host to take down for a multikill.

Bobby would do that if it gets him a yacht, but he ran.

Retail is actually dead. It'll more to some endless evergreen type content with no new expansions after the last titan. Probably go FTP too and start selling tons of shit in the cash shop.

In some ways it's a monkey off of Blizzard's back and may allow them to innovate again. In reality they're not going to make anything worth playing.

>>712911539
it doesn't ruin the entire world by putting fire and lava everywhere so it's better than cataclysm
every quest is just "fetch item" or "kill mobs" anyway
skill issue
this has always been the case and does a good job preparing players for endgame content. try doing bwl without a rogue to disarm the traps or tranq shot and see how that goes
class balance never existed in any version of WoW, retail, classic or private

>>712911987
if we're judging by the wowg thread unless you're mentally ill dog fucker gay furry, no

>>712912068
down ranking without and + healing gear is retarded.
you end up spending more mana casting more spells and thus fucking your already low manapool and you'll never get the 5 second rule to help you regulate the mana regen.
yea you can spam a lesser heal but you'll just go oom, there's no increase efficiency or no significant efficiency if you dont have +effect gear which hardly exists at low levels to begin with.
even if you did have this gear, spells that have < cast times suffer a penalty from those effects.
The issue is mana, I wish I could piss on your face for saying something so fucking retarded in such an obnoxious way.
>it's almost like
it's almost like you don't know what you're talking about.

>>712912186
good riddance to bad rubbish. if i live to see the day blizzard goes bankrupt or dissolves i would die happy

>>712912350
>Here's something retarded and factually wrong
Fuck off retard who probably blasts someone with a full rank holy light that heals for like 2x someones max hp then wonders why he's oom immediately.

So, what's the difference from any other Pserver?

>>712900045 (OP)
Blizzard could DMCA them and kill the project, instead they just strike a video which does nothing? It doesn't make any sense.

>>712912615
>yoooou must be overhealing!
the's the only argument for not using max rank heals at low level, but i'll be honest if you're too retarded to notice you'r over healing with your rank 5 over your rank 4, you're probably over healing when you spam rank 4 and going oom faster anyway.

>>712912745
They can't, the servers dont operate in america so they have no legal way of stopping them. All they can do is shit their pants and throw a hissy fit.

>>712900339
>it's real
never ceases to amaze me how far things have gone that you can be so openly racist and everyone is cool with it as long as it's against white people. the kikes really do have a stranglehold on the mind of the masses

>>712911818
There's a lot of weird and contradictory shit lore-wise that's eschewed in favor of game balance and simplicity
>why do the Priests in the cathedral of Stormwind teach you shadow spells?
>why doesn't Benedictus or Duthorian flip the fuck out if you cast shadowform in front of them?
>why can I ride through the trade district on a dreadsteed with a void walker out?
>why do the Orcs knowingly allow their kin to practice fel magic?
>this one is at least acknowledged in game but why the fuck do the Horde accept all the horrific shit that the forsaken are doing?
It would have been really cool if Blizz gave more faction flavor by say making Horde Priests only practice shadow magic and give them 'shadow healing' spells whereas the Alliance counterpart got all holy ones, and maybe making Warlocks an Undead only thing or something. Also in a world where magic and the Gods (or cosmic Light aliens) exist why would you wanna be some dickhead warrior or thief when you can be a Paladin?

>>712901265
It's the wow equivalent of a fy_iceworld only cs server. I don't give a shit about a wow vanilla version without the pace of original vanilla

>>712912729
No trannies allowed

>>712908216
Grim Batol only has a raid portal for a future tease. Uldum won't be out late until 2026/2027 because it's post AQ.

>>712912729
>So, what's the difference from any other Pserver?
This one is paying for a troons tranification

>>712912832
Who's spamming? I'm talking about being able to heal the whole party through an AoE in a fucking leveling dungeon.
You're just too fucking retarded and too fucking angry to talk about anything relevant or meaningful and just make shit up to be mad about. I'm not putting max rank rejuvs on DPS that just took 70% of their hp as damage. Nor should you expect these people to just never take damage again when the leveling boss is spamming retarded mechanics on a private server that probably runs like shit.

>>712908343
>>712910168
Turtle channel was shut down after the UE5 trailer but they made another one.
Frog posters are 80 iq.

Who the fuck asked for redesigned dungeons in classic+?

>>712912927
Oh, that makes sense, i'm gonna enjoy watching them pee themselves over the server then

>>712912929
>why do the Orcs knowingly allow their kin to practice fel magic?
they try to make it seems like thrall tolerates them to keep them out in the open but the reality is after, the last thing doomhammer would have told thrall is to crush the skull of every warlock he ever meets.
it's really weird they'd let them back into the fold.

>>712911634
The same justification blizzard had when they made any other class but male nelf be able to be druids.

>>712913132
Thats turtle

>>712911539
>A new cave isn't fucking NEW

>>712913053
>>712913132
I'm getting conflicting information here

>>712912729
Turtle wow operated on the 1.12 client which is a massive piece of shit. Epoch runs on 3.3.
That's the only reason I'm interested in the server.

>>712905673
Shit
reading this makes me think Bear tank would be pretty fun and viable

>>712913240
The kud screenshot is from turtle, that guy's retarded

>>712913132
>pic

>>712900687
They love to do the same to Ascensions videos which is always funny

>>712913234
Explain how a cave full of the same NPCs and quests you've seen 100 times already is new

>>712908868
>class balance
>good quests

lol, they have gone back and fourth with class balance so many times, they should have just stuck to 2.4.3 talents. A lot of the quests do have that custom jank unless they polished more since the last test.

>>712913335
wrong

>>712913393
>A lot of the quests do have that custom jank unless they polished more since the last test.
That's literally the reason didn't release then but 6 months later?

>>712913135
very few bosses have aoe effects and if they did yea just put a fucking rejuv on them retard.
oh nyo orinos my instant cast!
this is goal post moving at it's finest.
>actually i was talking about this hypnotically situation i never mentioned
fall of your horse asshole.
>but epoch devs said they'll have loads of aoe damage on bosses low level.
then it's fucking over the servers dead.
you know what I do when the felguard in RFC fire novas the group on normal server?
fucking nothing want to know why? becasue some dps dick being at 70% isn't a fucking concern for me?
want to know how'd go oom? caring about it at all.
the guy you replied to pointed out that these classes don't have the tools to deal with these encounters, if they turn dungeons into an affair where you healer has to be deep resto to survive and you cannot put a feral druid in okayish healer alt gear in, well yeah gg you just made doing dungeons on your server in a pug a massive chore, it's one thing to fucking jizz all over max level dungeons, he's saying fucking low level dungeons is going to have blowback becasue classes will struggle and yeah unless it's all avoidable damage like retail, I fucking agree.

>>712907243
I hope they don't give into the shitters. Turtle is doing a good job filtering people with Upper Karazhan too.

>NOOO I WANT MY FREE LOOT, MOMMY HELP

lmao

>>712912257
Alright wise guy, I was limited on space, let me come up with a bit more nitpicks.

>UBRS (now a 5-man dungeon) has a secret mechanic on the final boss that oneshots you, unless you have 3 (THREE) Talismans of Ascension (Yes, the key that takes forever to grind for one person) Use the item that has no distinct Use text to give them a shield that blocks the oneshot move throughout the encounter. This is a secret mechanic btw, they don't want you to know this info yet. Hard for the sake of being hard.
>Every Rare mob now has some unique green tied to them, no matter how stupid or niche. They weren't all active on the Beta's to keep some mystery, but the ones I saw ranged from Level 20 Trinket, Day/Night give a Moonfire or Sunfire on hit. Pretty cool! The other one was [Broken Spear] that dropped from Broken Spear, -5 Spirit -5 Stamina Halberd, like really awkward unusable bad, just for the sake of being "unique"
>Adding to that last one: Rare spam out the ASS. Maybe it was a Beta thing, but every Rare was up ALWAYS. Their new rares are almost always the same model/same color as every mob around them. It's almost fucking annoying. Blue Water Ele in the middle of Blue Water Ele's
>Trailer sells people on the idea of 1600+ new quests. Which means, split that in half for 800 Horde/Allliance, split over 40 zones, give or take a couple from Silithus and Moonglade, so like 20 new quests per zone. Which really isn't a lot, especially when you 'know' they're embellishing by counting breadcrumbs and junk
>Also, from personal experience, questing did not feel any different once you got to higher level zones. You cannot refute this one. It just didn't. 40-60 felt like a slog of the same quests you've done before, especially Tanaris pirate hats and EPL Tirion's Kill 80 things and come back. Blatantly obvious flags that shouldve been reworked but haven't.

>>712913234
Eat up the new cave goy, it's got the same 3 quests you'll love! Different NPC models and everything!

>>712908868
>class balance and new skills
aka make warriors dogshit and give paladins everything from tbc and wrath

>private server where the devs gradually lose all sense of restraint and see themselves as geniuses and arbiters of a franchise they don't own
Hey we feel that goldshire and razor hill need to be redesigned because we know better.

>>712913580
No one is stopping you from playing THE TRUE classic experience on the blizzard servers, little boy.

>>712913358
Anon if a new tunnel opens in real life everyone calls it the new tunnel even though it looks like all the other tunnels....

Do pserver mods ban for stupid reasons or are you allowed to have fun?

>>712913543
>Their new rares are almost always the same model/same color as every mob around them. It's almost fucking annoying. Blue Water Ele in the middle of Blue Water Ele's
so it's blizz-like?

>>712900149
It's horseshit like every WoW private server
Don't let the shills trick you into thinking their buggy garbage with 70% uptime is any better than Blizzard

>>712900339
>I'm not racism btw

>>712905629
>Soul
>Nonplayable undead and blood elves
>When they were playable in wc3
gtfo

>>712913658
No one is stopping you from committing suicide

>a thread about thing I'm interested in? Boy howdy, I'm sure to find engaging conversation here!
>oops, all shit stirrers and falseflaggers!
I'll wait for the fucking server to release, fuck this website.

>>712913335
I see, well it doesn't hurt to try it out, it can't be worse than turtle or blizz.

>>712913806
>can't be worse than turtle or blizz.
Yes it can

>>712913543
>20 new quests per zone
20 quests per zone is actually fucking massive. most zones only have 20-30 quests as it is.

>>712913797
At this point, you're better off doing your research and drawing your own conclusions. The short of it is that they all got their pros but glaring flaws, just depends if you're willing to overlook them.

>>712913762
back to watching stream streams on twitch and farming gold for you token shiteater

>>712913854
seething turtletranny

You lot should be thankful all Ion did was nuke the youtube. Microsoft are very protective of their IP. It'd be a shame if their lawyers had to get involved.

>>712913854
You would need to teleport the entire population of california to tel-aviv and force them to make a wow server to be worse.

>>712913543
>UBRS (now a 5-man dungeon)
Good, people 10 maning UBRS was always retarded.
>has a secret mechanic on the final boss that oneshots you
Cool, just like the shit you see in the BRD arena like the heart punch.
>Every Rare mob now has some unique green tied to them
Good.
>Adding to that last one: Rare spam out the ASS.
Probably just for testing since it is a beta.
>Trailer sells people on the idea of 1600+ new quests... so like 20 new quests per zone.
Good, that's a lot plus the higher level dungeons like the ones in stone talon will definitely help the leveling speed with these vanilla rates.

>>712904196
>the top positions at actiblizz is full of literal glownigs
CoD was the beginning of the end for gaming. Gooberment realized how effectively it could be used for recruitment and immediately made the power move to grab it. Blizzard was acquired due to WoW's mass popularity allowing for easier demographic control.
Problem is glowies are always either a bunch of miserable goons or a pack of vultures looking to exert and abuse whatever power they can get. They had no fucking clue how to properly run the game and because they're glowies they didn't trust outside teams to work for them without a short leash.

>>712902814
lmao i know who this is
keep it up based autist

>>712900564
Good, filtering those who can't read is one of the more efficient way to limit the invasion of fucktards.

>>712902814
based

>>712911539
>>712913543
this guy whines almost exclusively about things that sound exciting lmao

>>712913234
this is the fucking problem will all these Classic+ servers that are all the rage recently. turtle too. it's just more "kill 10 bears" "fetch 10 bear asses (not every bear has an ass)" "kill king bear" "talk to an npc on the other side of the map" "go into a cave that looks just like every other cave in the game and kill 10 cave bears". always the same mobs, always the same layouts, always the same mechanics. there is no innovation anywhere to be found.
yeah great the devs made a quest that use mobs in the ass-end of the zones nobody ever killed for any reason so you are no longer forced to clear out every quest in the level range to keep going when using classic's dogshit 1x rates. good job you accomplished the same as upping the 1x rate but with more time and effort.
and then the leveling experience ends and it's just the same fucking shit as any other server
how the fuck is this making or breaking the game to anyone? it's genuinely baffling

>Race: Dwarf
>Skin: White
>Class: Warrior
>Spec: Fury
>Calling people niggers: yes
Yep it's gaming time

>>712900825
Based

>>712913543
I actually like the RPG mechanics like needing that stupid key to beat Drakkisath. 100% this is going to piss people off though.
But i do think the best part of Epoch by far is the first 20-30 levels, which is quite similar to actual Vanilla. The rest of the dungeons do not get a new WMO like DM/WC, so the polished experience is frontloaded.

Turtle is more consistently all over the place, with janky looking areas like tristfal uplands at 15-20 but then you got good shit like Gilnaes at 40 (still a bit of a bumpy map but not bad for 1.12)

>>712914469
I agree with you, cata was the only time blizzard added quests that were actually good.
classic + needs to do shit in the same vein as cata.

>>712914469
I dont even know what the fuck you're even arguing about, yeah people who like vanilla want more of it and are in a thread where a server that promises that is being discussed?

>>712914091
I don't think the stonetalon caverns is coming at launch. It's also meant for level 60's.

>>712913762
>mfw Canada becomes the 51st US state and America gets full access to the suicide pod

>>712905673
>Wolfshead and Manual Crowd Pummeler are dead
Fucking hell, I don't want to start losing days of my life once again because they fixed huge parts of my most favorite class in any MMO ever.

>>712914469
This is just an excuse to explore the world and spend time in a zone, and that works. What would you have instead? Retail slop bombardement / vehicle quests? Fuck that shit. I regret the time where all quests were just slow "collect 50 bear ass" ones everytime I play retail.

>>712900151
It is even easier here than it is on /pol/ lmao. Nice one anon

>>712905673
>Sulfuras is now a legit BiS weapon for cat druids
Well, I'll be damned, they will need to buff Atiesh pretty hard for it to be better than having a chance to fireball the enemy's ass every second.

>>712913135
hey I thought about my tone with you earlier and would just like to say I'm sorry you're right it was too angry. my wife's going physiotherapy right now so i am probably lashing out, sorry about that anon hope you have a good day.

>>712914792
Ah right its post launch but its not for the 60s. The STV dungeons definitely in tho for the 40s.

>>712913551
Arms warrior is getting bladestorm, keep crying though.

>>712900045 (OP)
>hosting their server from UK
they will be killed instantly kek

>>712915086
They're changing sulfuras and also nerfing it item level wise because of the item level squish.

>>712915086
Naxx gear should be nerfed and they shouldn't pussy out on it like Turtle did.

>>712905673
oh great. if i wanted to watch druids get their cocks sucked nonstop i'd just play retail

>>712915086
the on hit is normalized relative to your attack speed and has an altered PPM

>>712900929
>>712902991
>>712908374
>>712910197
So easy to spot ESL retards

>>712915406
Given their wording, I was fully expecting the proc chance to be normalized to the weapon's speed and not your current attack speed.

How overpopulated will Paladin be on Horde side now that undead paladin is a thing?

Should I be a paladin or druid? My friends going to heal slut so I'm going to tank.

>>712915543
Will just be like turtle, paladins will be 1/3rd the population.

>>712913240
Both have tranny devs and devs with gender pronouns desu. /v/ thinks epoch is a redpilled server by /pol/

>>712915631
paladins are 1/3rd of the population on turtle because they're the devs' favorite class.

>>712915528
I mean it's possible but surely not right?

>>712915710
you have to be severely mentally damaged to still be playing world of hormonecraft in 2025 tee bee eff, troonerism is always a step away

>>712915737
That explains why Ret isn't top dps and Melee stacking gets punished in UKH.

>>712914635
Oh I get it, I've played enough Turtle to be upset that every major content patch includes a new amazing super cool leveling hub for... the Badlands levels 35-40. Not even the jank of the area but the real substance of it was lacking.
Hyjal was a great addition, not gonna lie. Actual tangible upgrades at max level and some varying upgrade paths outside of raiding. New currencies for these upgrades, new enchants, that's the kind of content worth something. Even Tel'Abim was good, with the new cooking recipes, minor upgrade paths, and new places to put new quest objectives. Actual substance, unlike Lapidis and whatever the other one is, those are such garbage I never go to them during any questing route. Nothing there except the most dense mob density I've ever seen in any zone. You can tell it was their first attempt and never went back to balance it.

>>712915810
Honestly the real problem trans people have isn't that they're trans, it's that technology hasn't gotten to the point where we can shape flesh.
if that guy was thin and blonde and had tier 2 paladin retribution shoulder pads would you be mad about it?

>>712915858
good thing ret has other roles they can excel at, unlike rogues who are outperformed by warriors in every way and have nothing else going for them but the meme subtlety support build with tank-tier DPS

>>712915810
i always knew purple judgment faggots were subhumans

>>712905673
okay, i absolutely have to play this shit now.

>>712913262
What is the advantage of 3.3 over 1.12?

>>712915458
don't quote me in your autistic shitfit I DO NOT care kthnxbai

Just read the list of Ru-Ru's on Turtle WoW and I must say it seems to be the MMO equivalent to Reddit

I shall be passing, thusly.

>>712916192
are you kidding? have you fucking seen the interface options for vanilla? the game doesn't even have built-in autoloot

>>712900045 (OP)
>20 years of playing the same game
why are wowdrones like this

>>712915810
>go check out /wowvg/
>its nothing but trannies avatar posting
yep its over

>>712915868
Tel'Abim is a comfy little zone and it's nice to get in a couple of easy levels on the way to 60. It's also has a nice quest chain to get an epic gun.

Lapidis and Gillijim's need another polish pass, really obvious they are Turtle's early custom content and it shows.

>>712903083
[ S E E D O F C O R R U P T I O N ]

>>712915868
i can't wait for the next patch to come out so early 30s will finally have an option besides same fucking humiliation ritual of going to STV
this shit should've been addressed sooner

>>712916505
vg threads for stagnate games are nothing but the same like 8 people replying to each other all day for months, it might as well be some discord group chat.

>>712916192
With modern mods dynamic shadows is the only thing i miss. Without mods 1.12 has a lot more issues like no auto loot, performance, resolution issues, poor add on support etc.

>>712916386
you can't say nigger on epoch either faggot

>>712916859
>you can't say nigger on epoch either faggot
We'll see

>>712916804
I have leveled 3 characters to 60 on turtle and honestly skipped STV each time. You really don't need to go there anymore.

>>712916804
I feel the exact same way, and everyone here will defend Epoch tooth and nail that 20 quests in the Barrens will completely solve anything 40+ of having to do the humiliation ritual of Pirate Hats in Tanaris for the umpteenth time, or Vulture Bones in Shimmering Flats. New features are enough to blind these apes, with the promise of new content.
They'll soon realize it's not just Turtle that suffers from that shit. Turtle is so fucking blind that they advertised the Boar Only Challenge out their ass and didn't add a single Boar in the 34-47 bracket, it's a joke.

>>712917062
whats you're route? or do you just do dungeons?

>>712917062
oh yeah i can just stay in hillsbrad/duskwood longer which give subpar xp from overleveling and i've also done a million times as well or get cockblocked by wetlands' elite quests, thanks faggot real helpful

did Alexensual delete his YouTube channel? I was hoping this would make him come back and give us another memorable meltdown

>>712912729
This one isn't out yet so people can tell themselves that it won't be dead in a month.

>>712907602
Sorry, I don't want to suffer through a run of RFC with an undead warrior tank with a two-hander and less HP than my warlock.

>>712917250
Kneel.

>>712917490
so why did you invite him? dishonest prick you know that's not what is being discussed

>>712917596
I didn't, I joined the party after he did. And it is what's being discussed. The game expects you to have a certain level of gear regardless of your role or you just won't contribute. You also need to have training and your weapon skills at acceptable levels. It's entirely reasonable for players to desire that you actually be fucking equipped to do the goddamn dungeon without being carried.

>>712917226
I do the dungeons once for the quests really.
I don't have anything like an optimal route but i usually just go around Wetlands, Duskwood, Swamp of Sorrows, Artahi, Dustwallow, Thousand Needles etc, they all have new quests and green quests give full exp. Obviously tent spam and maybe war mode on helps if you wanna do that.
New areas like Hawks Vigil and Sorrowguard Keep etc are good little quest hubs. You might only need to do STV if you have slow and steady or cbf hopping continents every now and then.

>>712916859
lol
more about the banal levels of "pvp" behaviour rules, tea bagging in this server would be an insta ban no questions asked

cant do this, cant do that. cant have fun motherfucker! sweet server ill play something else.

>>712907602
iirc rfc is 14 minimum? why bring someone that’s going to miss 80% of the time and body pull half the zone

>>712918130
because the dungeon is piss easy and there's no mechanics? do parsebrains fucking really?

all this tranny shilling is pointless, this server will be dead within a month

>>712918310
You severely overestimate how competent the average shitter looking to get carried is.

>>712918310
we got a badass here who’s never wiped in rfc, vc, or wc

>>712918310
>because the dungeon is piss easy and there's no mechanics?
Not anymore apparently, sorry you got fucking filtered by RFC.

>>712915096
You're all good chief sorry you're going through that hope things get better for you.

>>712918541
how the fuck are you wiping against bosses with no mechanics?

>>712900851
>they just said they're doing the whole classic plus stuff now that sod ended
what no they didnt

>>712918381
Ywnbaw

>>712907602
I do think they will give in and nerf the dungeons after launch but i do think dungeon spam is one of WoW's biggest weaknesses and a good example of players optimising the fun out of the game.

No double exp tents and harder dungeons you can't AOE farm means people will have to explore the world and see the new quests/sub zones. This is something they kinda wanted to do on Turtle but they know shitters will lose their mind if they can't sit in SM for 10 levels cleaving shit down.

>>712918746
you’ve never had a bad party that died repeatedly in rfc?

>>712918848
youre the one shilling a private server for an ancient game that only trannies play. acquire taste faggot

>>712907602
this. the server will be infested with the kind of subhuman parsetrannies that infest retail classic. nobody wants to deal with passing gearscore hoops or having their talents inspected when they can simply keep questing. there's enough of that at level cap

>>712918784
nta but they did, you can go read the post where they announced sod was finished yourself or go find the survey for what they want changed in classic+

>>712900339
It's insane that people can now say this and not get slammed by the media

>>712916401
>>712916859
So basically nothing.... You can easily change interface options using addons. You can also enable autoloot using a tweak. Performance in WoW is not an issue at all if your PC is not over 20 years old.

I can actually think of one thing - WoW VR works only on 3.3.5 so maybe I'll play a bit for some vanilla VR experience.

>>712918993
just admit you play a dps no one wants to bring to a dungeon man, its fine.

>>712918924
in classic i've wiped to overpulls, mainly from retailbrained/newbie tanks who bodypull, yes, but repeatedly? no, never.

>>712913543
>>712911539
All you're doing is selling me on the server, retard.

what is it with singleplayer private server players feeling the need to... tell everyone they're playing alone?

>>712912101
false. not a single sauce about her mom besides her name is Evelina Rosa

>>712919057
Macros are shit on 1.12 too. They miss a lot of functions. There are too many issues to list exhaustively, just play it yourself and you'll see.

>>712918993
I dunno, i think it will be a lot of dad gamers who get rekt by the more difficult dungeons due to chain pulling, no CC and simply not kicking shit.

>>712919232
classic is tuned lower than private servers

>>712920008
i meant "classic" as in "base game WoW, no expansions". i've never played retail classic because i'm not a dumbass who gives money to blizzard for a (botched) experience that i could have for free.

>>712904196
It explains why I naturally hate him as much as I do. These glowniggers coopted Blizzard to kill it from within. Blizzard hasn't been good since 2004. I used to think it was the Activision merger but the company was already going downhill before then. You don't magically one day to partner with the worst company in gaming, there was precedence in bad decision making in 06/07 too. I remember all too well.

The fresh wow server is filled with deranged trannies that completely ruin the game because WoW is the only thing that they are good at and they minmax the fuck out of it. This is going to be 10x worse with deranged european schizo's that will probably dox you and send you death threats if you fuck up in a dungeon.

>>712920450
lol just dont fuck up then retard, literally get good, imagine sitting here making up scenarios of where people are out to get you on a wow private server thats not even out yet

>>712916192
1.12 has much more soulful weather
oh wait that's an advantage for 1.12 not 3.3

>>712920450
This has never happened to someone that didn't deserve it

>>712900045 (OP)
>>file copyright strikes against a private wow server they fear the most
I thought Turtle WOW was the most fearsome server?

>>712920843
>it will be different this time i swear
wow players really have zero pattern recognition

>Playing MMOs

>>712902624
Ion is a lawyer by education and training
Still amazes me he became lead dev
Lawyers are the worst romantic partners second only to welders

>>712921014
i've never been doxed or sent threats probably cause i don't wipe in fucking RFC, get good retard.

>>712900687
>Advertise stealing others work
Didn't work for Marathon, isn't going to work for Epoch either anon

I'm afraid that 50% of alliances population is going to be dwarf shaman.

>>712918310
any good private servers?

>>712921559
no

>>712901275
>>90% chinese population
>this isn't true at all
what is the majority then?

>>712901278
its a lot easier to steal someone elses work and name to make your flash-in-the-pan server for some easy cash then doing the hard work of coming up with an original concept and art

>>712921559
All of them are better than any Blizz official one.

>>712921675
>90%
>majority
>faggot

>>712921757
none of the people working at blizzard right except for maybe one or two had anything to do with the creation of wacraft.
the video game industry is one industry where people can inherit your legacy and fuck it up.

>>712901265
It's good for a funny 1-60 leveling experience, but the server overall has gotten out of hand with how much stuff you have to grind and restrictions/nerfs they have enforced which ruins the fun of discovering new builds and playing how you want.
I enjoyed fucking around on it years ago with a buddy and just leveling together with the draft system.

>>712901278
is this bait? vanilla WoW is a dogshit game in a vacuum, if it didn't get hard carried by WC3 it would have flopped massively

>>712909785
well there's the problem
I don't want to hang out with groomers in VRChat
I don't want to play webfishing with groomers
I don't want to play Elden Ring by myself
I don't want to play Nintendie Switch
I don't want to play FOTM streamer bait game

>>712921083
>Lawyers are the worst romantic partners second only to welders
Where do accountants fit on there?
Asking for a friend.

>>712905673
>druids getting buffed
this angers me.

>>712922629
brownie mad other classes getting better

>>712922365
sounds like you want to find a time machine back to the 2000s then

>>712922737
druid has always been the brown class

Fuck I don't want to wait a month