Thread 712939626

PC gaming is dying.
There's a few things left but the platform is stagnant. I wish it weren't so, but that's where we are.
At least I was there at it's peak, 2003 - 2012.

We won't have any real good PC exclusive shooters because CoD killed the genre.

We won't have any more good actual MMORPGs because WoW turned the entire genre into low effort trash.

We won't have any more RTS because everyone who made them is retired or dead.

Emulators. Even now Sony and Nintendo have teams of lawyers suing anyone bold enough to host a site.

All that's left is CoDtrash and gachaslop. That is the future of PC gaming.

@grok why is PC gaming growing in Asia?

mmo games suck my ass nowadays, and they were the online reason I played on PC, beside minecraft. Emulators are still great IDK what yr talking about.

>>712939626 (OP)
>PC gaming is dyin

people have been saying this since the early 2000s

>>712939687
Yes, PC gaming is growing in Asia. In fact, the Asia Pacific region is projected to lead the global market in revenue for PC gaming hardware according to Grand View Research. Several factors are contributing to this growth, including a strong esports culture, increased internet penetration, and the rise of social media and streaming platforms.

Shooters generally aren't that interesting in the first place without significant levels of extra mechanics added in, generally I won't even touch them if they're not a borderline or full blown imm sim.
>any more good mmorpg's.
There hasn't been a single good mmo since tibia or ultima online, wow is garbage do a flip.
>no more RTS
Your only actual argument
>no more emulators
You are beyond stupid.

>>712940241
Thanks @grok

>>712940226
PC marketshare has been declining since 2018 tard, look up marketshare in 2018

>>712939626 (OP)
>t least I was there at it's peak, 2003 - 2012.
>2003 - 2012.
>peak
LOL

>>712939626 (OP)
>We won't have any more RTS
You just got Homeworld 3.

>>712940241
>penetration

>>712939626 (OP)
>At least I was there at it's peak, 2003 - 2012.
Lmao more like 1993 to 2005

>>712939626 (OP)
Exclusives are bad, I don't mind everything being able to play the same games. Because then the best price/performance would win the console war and not retarded brand loyalty. I'm perfectly fine with consoles being mini pcs performing sufficiently or even good and pc being the high end. Would help hardware and not slowly kill it like this console war retardation people got indoctrinated into by greedy marketing psyops.

so what kind of spam is this?

>>712940532
>Exclusives are bad

>>712939626 (OP)
PC gaming peaked in 1999, you missed out OP.

>>712939626 (OP)
Retards like you have been saying PC gaming is dying since the 90's. PC gaming is alive and thriving thanks to current gen consoles being basically gay low end PC's themselves. PC gaming offers the highest resolutions, graphical detail and most FPS out of any platform. Look at the most recent release of Stellar Blade as a great example of why PC gaming is superior. Nude mods within 24 hours. Boom.

The real peak started with C64 and Amiga and ended on 2007 when ICancer released and masses flooded the internet

>>712940718
>win 11
Unusable.

>>712939626 (OP)
>snoy gets a functional monopoly due to xbone shooting itself in the foot with the xone reveal
>snoy goes full antijapan
>suddenly "home console" (read: non-nintendo) gaming stagnates, with AAA goyslop becoming uncharted clones and indies becoming walking simulators about depression

>steam gets a monopoly
>steam goes full antijapan
>suddenly PC gaming stagnates, with AAAA goyslop becoming rollslop and indies becoming deckbuilder roguelites or vampire survivors clones

history doesn't repeat but it often rhymes

>>712941463
>>steam goes full antijapan

>>712941463
>>712941548

>>712940718
>two fucking grand for a gpu that can't even run MH milds at 60 fps 1440p without goyscaling or fake frames
PC gaming is dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1U1S2FWR4

>>712941548
>>712941614
>Steam became the PiS6.
>The only JP games being released on it are westaboo goyslop from SE and crapcom.
Sounds about right.

>>712941774
No loss since jps can't make anything worthwhile.

>>712941463
Anon, japan is one of the top providers of slop media currently. Look at animu shitting out 20 series with only slight alterations in premise while animation quality slowly approaches the quality of the 4 frame action scenes of the 60s even tho most is shat out with the help of a computer.

>>712941779
didn't SF5 flop everywhere but on the switch?

>>712941926
For me every fighting game is a flop, except Fairy Fighting.

gotta love steamgoys going mask off on being snoys 2.0 lmao

>>712940532
spoken like a true commie libtard

>>712942478
>wishing for a competitive market is communism
Lmao, buck and brainbroken. Enjoy your vidya kolkhoz

PC gaming is moving to handhelds and phones. Desktop gaming feels like it's at a recent low.

>>712939626 (OP)
Are you the same fag who keeps posting those threads about how Bomberman is dead?

>>712939626 (OP)
It literally is dying. PS5s are $399 plus Black Ops 6 and a fully haptic controller and it can run literally any AAA game at 60fps and with at least decent fidelity. PCs cost thousands and require large amounts of upkeep, troubleshooting, hackers in multiplayer games, delayed releases that console gets first, etc. Pointless.

>>712944540
>and it can run literally any AAA game at 60fps and with at least decent fidelity.

>>712939626 (OP)
What? You don't enjoy endless consoleslop?

>>712944675
You do realize it was even buggier on PC and it has been fixed now right? This is just slander with no basis now.

>>712944540
@grok is pc gaming dying?

>>712945041
PC gaming isn't dying—it's thriving. Data from Steam shows over 38 million concurrent players in 2024, with peaks like January 2025 hitting 36 million. The global PC gaming market was valued at $39.9 billion in 2023 and is projected to grow to $44.6 billion by 2028. New releases like Black Myth: Wukong and Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 smashed records, with millions sold on PC. Hardware advancements, like NVIDIA's RTX 5090, and platforms like Steam Deck keep pushing the ecosystem forward. Posts on X reflect strong enthusiasm, with users hyping new games and PC builds. Mobile and console gaming are growing too, but PC's flexibility, modding culture, and raw power keep it dominant. Claims of "dying" often come from console fans or outdated narratives, not reality.

is this the new schizo spam tactic? just screech impotently that a whole market is actually dead because..?

>>712939626 (OP)
>At least I was there at it's peak, 2003 - 2012.
Ironic statement considering how many AAA companies abandoned PC around the time when gen 7 consoles released.

>>712945195
>new
>suddenly
Consolesisters have been saying that PC is dead since what, 90s?

>>712945167
The 5090 isnt even accessible for the vast majority of people and soon enough high end GPUs are going to be 10k to run 60 dollar digital toys. Even if you bought a 5090 youd still be locked out of GTA 6 day 1 and Death Stranding 2 here in like a week or so.

>>712939626 (OP)
So the worst thing you can say about PC Gaming is that's currently the best play to play everyone else's games?
Sounds good.

>>712945274
That's a good thing.

>>712945369
It cant even run the biggest entertainment release of all time. How is that the best way to play?

>>712945167
Steam is just the PiS5 pro pro.
Actual PC gaming is dead.

>>712944952
It ran better on PCs on launch and it runs better on PC right now.

>>712945512
>It cant even run the biggest entertainment release of all time
But it's the only platform that will run Starsector once its out.

>>712945550
GTA 6? I dont know about that

>>712945530
Can I play HoMM 3 on ps5?

>>712941698
I was a skeptic too but DLSS4 is impressive. You have to see it in person to appreciate it. It really does work.

>>712939626 (OP)
Here's the thing about PC that consoles will never have. You can just continue to play old shit and not pay attention to modern slop.

>>712944675
>Console peasants think this is playable

>>712945586
>Fuck! Better switch my argument.

Reminder that AC NIGGER SHADOWS sold most on ps5
That's how desperate they are
Your turn

>>712946240
That was my argument to begin with

>>712946280
No, it wasn't.
>>712944540

>>712946473
I said PC gets delayed releases that console people get first. GTA6 would be included sir

>>712939626 (OP)
10 seiries was peak of pc gaming lol

>>712946525
> PS5s are $399 plus Black Ops 6 and a fully haptic controller and it can run literally any AAA game at 60fps and with at least decent fidelity

>>712946587
Keep reading
>delayed releases that console gets first, etc. Pointless.

>>712946691
So you didn't say what I quoted?

>>712946741
I did but delayed releases for console people first is a part of my quote

>>712940836
There's literally no alternative.

>>712939626 (OP)
Other way around desu,PC gaming is doing better then ever while consoles turned into bad PCs for poorfags. Except the switch I guess

>>712946813
I beg to differ.

PC needs a new physical medium in the form of hot swappable SSD-like cartridges that hold up to terabytes of ROMs. They can also be partitioned to have save data and mods. If GabeN did this with steam carts then I'll buy more PC games.

>>712946974
I don't think there is any real demand for this and the cost of physical media and distribution would make hardly anyone buy it

>>712946974
Little game themed usb stick would be fine. I don't think they need all that shit, maybe the save file dump. But it's nice to have a physical representation of thing you like.
>>712947370
Than why is the quickest pricedrop often the physical copies you can grab of amazon?

>>712947370
I think there will be once people understand what it means to own games and be happy. It might be a niche now but I want to pioneer this tech for movies and video games someday.

>>712946974
>>712947370
This, I'd love for big box PC games to make a comeback but when a PC game does get a physical release, even if it sells gangbusters on steam the boxed copies just sit on the shelf at walmart until they're $20.
That and Best Buy and every other store that sells PC games are phasing out physical media entirely.

>>712947640
>Than why is the quickest pricedrop often the physical copies you can grab of amazon?
This has no connection with the cost to the developer compared to steams current model where they can get the largest games to people for a couple of cents

>>712939626 (OP)
>2003 - 2012
I will mash your stupid fucking cunt skull in you little shit

>>712947853
Isn't it like 30% a copy?

There is no reason to play any console if you aren't a fan of Nintendie shit and can afford a decent Pc. Cope all that you want but it's the truth.

>>712947640
>Than why is the quickest pricedrop often the physical copies you can grab of amazon?
Because they want to get rid of them, because they don't sell, because everyone's digital-only now.

>>712947938
That's what they take, their cost to add some more files to their servers and pay for the bandwidth is trivial

There's also the advantage of running the game from the cart instead of installing it on PC. You can even install updates to the card if you like. Plus you can use empty SSDs to quickly and safely swap your own stuff instead of relying on cloud storage and ToS. You might be able to back up your steam games to the drive as well.

>>712947982
Correct. Also, Switch 2 will be emulated sooner or later.

>>712948034
So a physical copy that circumvents steam would be financially feasible because for a fullprice title that 30% would easily cover the costs of medium, packing and shipping thrice over.

>>712948159
You are asking for them to eat the cost of a 100gb+ decent quality SD card or something essentially the same since it would require flash memory with most major releases

>>712948308
Why should they reduce their cut and partially divorce users from their own platform, and no it would be pretty expensive a 128gb SD card currently goes for about $12 and shipping wouldn't be less than $3

>>712948389
Big game companies suck because they want you to own nothing and be happy.

>>712948637
I'm just argueing for physical media, not for steam. 12 bucks consumer are peobably 3 bucks bulk business. Let's add another 3 for a fancy box and you'd be at 9 which soon gonna be a whopping 10% of a full price title compared to steams 30%. Wasn't too far off with thrice over.

>>712948289
at this rate with all the emulator devs moving on to pis5 out of spite of the normalfags using emulators against nintendo, expect a fully working pis5 emulator before the switch 2 one even boots

>>712948637
If it's an Acti-Blizz game then you already need a Microsoft or Battle.net account to log in and play online. Same with EA Origin and Uplay accounts.

I bet if one major game like GTA came to PC on blu ray then people would start buying blu ray drives and blu ray PC games would come out.
A decade ago obviously, it's too late now.

>>712948698
This is true but digital distribution is still the path of least resistance(cheapest) for consumers, studios and distributors.

>>712939626 (OP)
We literally had Steam Next fest for the past week which wasn't only either CoDtrash or gachaslop. RTS is alive and had a bunch of demos there. It's true though about PC exclusive shooters and MMORPGs but all of gaming is pretty much going down the drain at the moment, it's just hard to accept it's an established medium and the early 00s aren't coming back when every platform had their own niche and had plenty of compelling games.

>>712948893
I doubt it's that much cheaper to buy SD cards in bulk since they are already such a commodity item with a large market

>>712948896
Why would you make an emulator that doesn't play games?

>>712949093
Well, it's a guess, not sure about sd cards but you can get usb sticks that cheap in bulk. Why you think so many companies give them out like they did with ballpens.

>>712948896
It probably helps that the ps5 and Xbox are literally just pc hardware

>>712949275
Those tend to be a bit smaller and the quality of those things is poor I've had so many fail after just using them a few times to install windows or similar

>>712949058
List the games, I'm not even asking for a nebulous "but it has to be GOOD" while I dismiss everything, I simply ask you to list them at all.
However, you cannot list:
>RTS games that are sci-fi slop.
>Walking simulators (defined as games with little to zero combat focused on MUH NARRATIVE)
>Anything with deckbuilding mechanics.
>Vampire survivors clones, as they are somehow more mindless than musouslop.
>Wipeout/Fzero clones.
>"J"rpgs that aren't made in japan by japanese people, especially not if they are chrono trigger or earthbound clones.
>Pokemon clones.

Good. Consoles are the soul of the gaming industry. PC is an annoying combination of elitism, upgrading and troubleshooting.

>>712939626 (OP)
Hey, Anons. I got a PC deal that I'm about to close in a few days.
It's an i7 10700k, 32gb, 256nmve and a 12gb 3060 rtx for $593.
$1.016 with 2 monitors 1 4k 27" and the other 1080p 27", with a glass case.
What you think of it? Can't wait to play some fucking games!

>PC gaming is dying
Two more weeks!

>>712939626 (OP)
>exclusive
Trans

>>712950093
Buy each part used and build it yourself. Go AMD and use arch linux
Tv>monitor but ymmv

>>712939626 (OP)
>it's peak, 2003 - 2012
pc gaming was well into its decline by the late 2000s

>PC gaming peak
>2003-2012
Consolezoomer thread

I wish the shit tier competitive gaming trend would die so we could just have fun games again

>>712950771
the only issue mw2 has is no dedicated servers.

>>712939626 (OP)
>PC gaming is dying
>the retard said at its peak, even reestablishing itself in Japan
said every single RETARD every single year since Radio Shack sold the Tandy TRS-80 Model I 1977
Assuming you don't die of your birth defects, you'll be saying it still 40 years from now, too.

>>712939626 (OP)
>PC exclusive
Why do you want exclusive?
>host a site
Emulators are distributed not through the websites anymore

>>712941926
SF5 was never on the Switch. It sold 10 mil by the end of its support.
SF6 is the one that just released on the Switch 2 but the majority of sales remain PC/PS4/PS5. That's at 4 mil.

>>712950720
It's a second hand setup I'm buying. I thinks it's quite the deal, specially for the 3060,

>>712950946
that genie is never going back inside it's piss bottle, to this day ecelebs still make videos about single player vidya like they are competitive goyslop
>10 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT [GAME]
>HOW TO GET AS STRONG AS POSSIBLE IN [GAME]
>[GAME] ALL BOSSES FULL GUIDE
>[GAME] ALL COLLECTIBLES GUIDE

>>712951064
>the only issue mw2 has is no dedicated servers.
thats a pretty big fucking issue, we are still dealing with its effects today
>not balanced for lean
and no, it wasnt the only issue

>>712951548
>no competitive bullshit
>no microtransactions
>no gamepass
everything else is just gameplay

>>712944952
elden ring doesnt run at 60 even on the PS5Pro lil bro

>>712951998
Surely it can, elden ring can run on a 11th gen igpu at 720p at 40fps

>>712939626 (OP)
gabe ruined pc gaming by squeezing the fuck out of developers and turning games into repetitive low effort crap. consoles are the future. once gabe dies the pc storefronts will become fragmented and support will die off.

>>712952932
>consoles are the future
correction, nintendo consoles are the future, as they are the only ones NOT forcing devs to cheap out and make constant 90% discounts to have any relevance in the algoyrithm
>once gabe dies the pc storefronts will become fragmented and support will die off.
hopefully that happens sooner than later, as western indie markets are already on their deathbed thanks to steam and steamies pushing for pointless graphic bloat or else games get called "shovelware"

>>712952684
lmao he doesnt know

>We won't have any real good PC exclusive shooters because CoD killed the genre.
Echo point nova, cruelty squad
>We won't have any more good actual MMORPGs because WoW turned the entire genre into low effort trash.
There never was, technological limitations and nostalgia.
>We won't have any more RTS because everyone who made them is retired or dead.
Tempest rising, warno, darfall, broken arrow
>Emulators. Even now Sony and Nintendo have teams of lawyers suing anyone bold enough to host a site.
Emulators still in progress to this day because of forking.

>>712954391
>Echo point nova, cruelty squad
two games in almost three full generations since the ps360
one of which is a meme indie game with a schizo plot and graphics
riveting

>>712954817
The Citadel, Severed Steel, I am your beast, dread delusion
Also I didn't ask for your dumbshit opinions, if you don't like good games go play warzone or valorent