>20 million for Nsane
>10 for CTR
>crickets and no games for years
>not even PS5 or PC ports

Sonic
>sells 1m-3m
>gets games, movies every year

why is this happening

sega profits and doesn't cry
activision profits and cry

crash is normie
sonic is autismal

>>712953884 (OP)
none of these games are fun

>>712953884 (OP)
Because nobody cares about Crash the brand, people care about Crash the trilogy of platformers made by legendary developer Naughty Dog.
Everything that is not those specific games flops hard, cause for Crash the actual brand IS the creatives behind it.

>>712954558
what does this even mean? CTR wasn't a plastformer and sold 10m
Crash 4 a new game sold 5m
all more than sonic ever done btw

>>712956032
You're on /v/, a dead board and when things start to look bleak most people resort to the usual rhetoric of:
>it was never good in the first place
>people are just fans of the media not the game

>>712954363
Super Mario is normie

>>712956346
the people who do that,
the games they like, no one talks about them here.
And if people do it's for a short time.

So they go to threads where people do care for what they're talking about,
and try to say: "people don't like this."

imagine making an objectively successful product and having your studio dissolved as a result

>>712957925
>the old problem plaguing Crash was people having little time to make games pushing out mediocre products in a years time and these games still made money but helped tarnish the brand
>the current problem plaguing Crash is unrealistic or bombastic expectations for an IP that laid dormant for a near decade and suffered an identity crisis in the past, desperately needing love and cohesion in its direction going forward

>>712953884 (OP)
when are the servers going to get fixed?

>>712957523
every sub 80iq retard I went to school with played crash

They need to rerelease crash trilogy with optional classic soundtrack like Spyro and ctr got.

>>712956032
CTR was still made by Naughty Dog.
Crash 4 was a flop given the money they put into it.
Sonic sales are middling but that's reflected in how those games look and play, they're not megabudget affairs.

>>712953884 (OP)
crash is unappealing, sorry
if you want your brand to get to survive as more than specific good games you need it to be appealing beyond its immediate use as a game
and crash, as a cartoon, is shit

>>712958574
what is this cope

>>712958592
hush darling

>>712958752
you can deny it all you want, the proof is in the pudding
the crash games that are good games sell because they're good games
as soon as anything else is happening that depends on crash as a cartoon character instead, it flops

>>712953884 (OP)
Its owned by Acti. They own CoD and other moneymakers so they expectations for all of their projects are retarded.

>>712959389
Astro bot despite winning GOTY didn't sell that much

>>712953884 (OP)
Because crash is trash

>>712953884 (OP)
Several reasons.
For example, crash is a shit ip and was only good on the psx.
Crash 4 was hated. Its on gamepass now meaning it underwhelmed with the sales and is banking on this paying off (it wont.).
Game awards mean nothing beyond a red flag. An industry that self felates is an industry that hates everyone else.

Is Crash 4 anyone else's biggest disappointment of all time? I can't believe it came out with as many problems as it did, while it looked so promising.

(KH3 is actually my biggest disappointment, but Crash 4 is in the top 3 for sure.)

>>712961440
>>712961713
sonicfags are seething god damn
Crash is a far more beloved character than sonic

>>712963004
>Crash is a far more beloved
So beloved that from 2004-2017 he didn't get a single good thing
Not one
Even Sonic got multiple stuff KEK

>>712953884 (OP)
Why are they celebrating this 6 years later? That comes up to about 3,336,380 per year. Oh! Wait-

>>712959389
>as soon as anything else is happening that depends on crash as a cartoon character instead, it flops
???? What cartoon?

>>712953884 (OP)
because Sonic is a flop in japan and mediocre in the west

>>712953884 (OP)
Merchandising. Sonic can carry movies, tv shows, games, comics, toys, apps, lunchboxes, books, stickers, dishware, furniture, bedding, shower curtains and even fucking waffle irons just because kids and manchildren love Sonic's design. Crash can maybe do stickers and apps but pretty much is just a game seller and nothing else and a big part of that is his redesign. I personally like his and Coco's look in IAT but I guess a lot of people didn't. Crash just doesn't make enough money from merchandise and that's where the real money is.

>give away game for free
>w-we moved so many units haha! just don't ask for revenue or proft ;)

>>712963004
Wrong.

>>712953884 (OP)
they're saving face after crash 4

>>712963495
If Crash should have gotten anything at the very least it had to be a 90s Animaniacs/Goof Troop inspired show in this style. They were sitting on a goldmine with this and now its far too late.

>>712958473
Where are you from?

>>712958241
Being Crash is suffering, like all you have to do is do what Crash 2 did, or at least what Crash 3 did, just don't go overboard with the fucking gimmick levels like WoC. Hell, Twinsanity was clearly a fine blueprint for future Crash games, it just needed more time in the dam oven.

>>712963004
Depends where you are from, unironically.

>>712953884 (OP)
>20m
that was all a psyop to force playstation players to buy their precious exclusive. Now that it is not exclusive no one cares

>>712956032
Where is generations?

why suddently they are shwoing all this numbers?

>>712963142
>>712963670
sales speak for themselves
the games and shit are because of rights dispute

>>712953884 (OP)
The same reason Ratchet and Clank still get new games despite never selling as great as Mario, the team LIKES making Ratchet games.

And that's the thing killing Crash. No one wants to make Crash games. Hell Naughty Dog only made Crash for Universal out of a contract it wasn't because Naughty Dog cared and if they did not enough as they happily washed their hands off Crash to make Jak. And modern Naughty Dog employees HATE cartoony games. And this is why Crash got handed over to different developers and it was more of a licensed deal so the quality took a dive.

The bottom line is no one wants to make Crash games and that's why you got so many low quality Crash games and now the brand is dormant because one more time no one wants to make Crash games. That's simply the way that it is. Crash is not a draw. He enjoyed a fluke of time on the spotlight but Crash is genuinely not that popular of a character and brand so gaming be it the gamers or the development teams could move on without Crash.

>>712963418
I mean his existence as just a cartoon animal character and the ip he's a part of. Sonic can have shit game after shit game but as a story, a franchise, he's just good enough that it powers through on sheer appeal. Crash doesn't have that, so any thime he's successful, it's entirely because the underlying game is good.

Sonic can sell a bad game because he's a good cartoon, Crash can't because he's a bad cartoon.

>>712964417
>Sales
Oh poor baby thinks sales matter kek

>>712958574
>Crash 4 was a flop given the money they put into it
what retarded cope is this? Crash 4 literally saved the fiscal quarter it was in after disappointing COD numbers (as stated in Activision investment documents)

>>712964540
>le story

Only Naughty Dog cared about Crash. Everyone else either had no idea what they were doing, were more focused on making a comedy act or missed the point of what made Crash appealing in the first place. Crash was huge in Japan and that's saying something for a western-developed game.

>>712953884 (OP)
Crash fans are annoying. Be grateful Crash sold great unlike eternal low sellers like Klonoa, Bomberman, or Mega Man or Castlevania. It happens all the time, franchises that used to be well known become Has Been Failures. Look at Star Wars now its merely Crash Bandicoot's turn. So get over it.

>>712964635
Yes, anon, if you want to sell merchandise, get licensed materials, make sure even a shitty game sells, you need the story and characters to be appealing enough that people care even despite the negatives

>>712964695
Mario exists

Anons if they ported CTR to PC you'd have to commit to the grind all over again and/or put money down for MTX, are you ready for that hell?

>>712964682
If it sold low and didn't get games it'd be understandable
but being popular and selling yet being dormant is annoying

>>712964810
dont know why people like to defend CTR bussiness model of MTX garbage with Fomo timers

>>712964682
>Be grateful
When you're paying money for something, you're not conducting a charity, you're doing business. If Crash sold good, they would have no reason to NOT keep it going. But in Activision's eyes, 5mil is bad. Just because those IP's you're a fan of isn't selling as well doesn't mean you need to shame Crash fans for making demands, they're the ones buying the games and want the best for it unlike you, who will likely buy anything with those IP's names on it just to be 'grateful' for a new game no matter how shit it is.

YOU get over Crash fans being smart with their money.

>>712954558
To be fair now the only people who care about the Crash trilogy are those who grew up with that. Crash's appeal is quite limited when you think about it.

And lets face reality WHY would Crash be popular long term? Canonically Crash Bandicoot is RETARDED. He's so dumb he makes Homer Simpson look witty. A character this unappealing is not going to win the hearts of the customers. The only character dumber than Crash is Tiny Tiger.

And it really doesn't help Crash that the franchise is somewhat ugly looking I can't believe characters like N Tropy, Cortex, Nina, etc are humans. For one thing they have abnormal skin colors. The only "normal" humans are Brio and N Gin and they are malformed. Its an ugly franchise and contrary to what you think ugliness doesn't sell.

The raw concept of Crash is not interesting enough to be evergreen in that people will want to do something with Crash's universe. And this is why Crash does not stand the test of time.

>>712964810
I stream and would simply monetize it

>>712965034
It's far better designed than all of sonic
Crash design is iconic and loveable and cute
N cortex is far better than mr egg

>>712964417
They do, it didn't do well. Keep coping, it makes me laugh.

>>712965017
>ou need to shame Crash fans for making demands,
but how you know if thouse demands are not just nit picks, because they will never be satisfied no matter what.
case and point, how some think NsT was the perfect come back, while others think it was awful as well.

>why is this happening
Toys for Bob missed literally the entire point and took a fat shit on the floor in front of everyone
And when everyone called them a fag for doing it
They sat down, and dragged their ass across the floor leaving behind a long drawn out shit stain: "ASSFAGGOT NAMED CTR"
Hoping to ruin google searches for the game people actually liked.
And then Activision got bought by Microcock

>>712964670
>Crash was huge in Japan and that's saying something for a western-developed game.

donkey kong country was also massive in japan. even DKC3 sold over a million there. shame how nintendo has bastardized rare's legacy. the returns games dont even have the kremlins, just very generic blocky characters

>>712963980
Jak and Daxter did the whole "open world Crash" gameplay better than Twinsanity.

>>712965034
>Canonically Crash Bandicoot is RETARDED
He isn't. He's zany and unhinged, but he's shown to be capable in many ways, letting his actions do the talking and being able to operate heavy machinery. He's a screwball character in a video game, which usually aren't dialogue heavy so there's no reason for him to speak.

The later Crash games missed the point of some of his goofy antics and thought that was his entire character. Crash 2 is a poor example because the game more or less had to progress with Crash getting the crystals for Cortex and he still thwarted him in the end.

Crash in the ND games is charming, yet cool with a little bit of a lovable goof.

>>712958752
I'm convinced crash died due to some form of negative karma accrued from all these images

>>712965307
Jak and Daxter wasn't hamstrung by Universal being fucking retards.

>>712962119
>KH3 is actually my biggest disappointment

And Kingdom Hearts 4 will sell badly for it.

>>712965291
I can't believe theyre actually making a new Spyro. I really, really hoped they'd stay dead

You know I could live with Crash dying the first time it was bound to happen and it was something we felt in our bones due to the deterioration of the IP. But a second time just means its chances of coming back again are lower now and the more time goes by the same problems continue to plague the IP. It just feels like an endless cycle of insanity for a series about funny animals smashing boxes and fighting mad scientists, magic gods and racing against aliens. And it reminds me of how simple mismanagement and greed are what kill IPs not endless mediocrity.

I still to this day do not know why Vicarious Visions or Beenox weren't put onto development of Crash 4. Wouldn't it make much more sense to get a team making a remake of an old game, then use that knowledge on a new sequel? The original level in N.Sane with Future Tense showed that VV knew how to make a fun level and Beenox shows they understand Crash better than the other two modern developers who had a crack at him. Did they really need to send developers to the CoD mines or work on other remakes?
Why Toys for Bob?

>>712965273
>because they will never be satisfied no matter what.
Never mind the people who did like Crash 4 and admit to its flaws.
>how some think NsT was the perfect come back, while others think it was awful as well.
But yet the N.Sane Trilogy sold well and was critically acclaimed in spite of its flaws.

You're gonna have people on both sides who dislike and like something at the same time. You speak as if people have to ALWAYS accept everything and not complain because they should be grateful for a fucking product they have to pay money for. There were tricks that the ND games did that the remakes and later Crash titles failed to replicate, and frankly, coming off the ND games, everything else feels like a shallow, hollow shell of what came before them, so I don't blame the ND purists for being nitpicky. Why should they lower their standards just because the publishers never had them to begin with?

The worst crime that Crash games post trilogy ever did was fucking up the slide jump. The way 4 kills all momentum is so shit, but I will not let Twinsanity off the hook either.

>>712965635
>And it reminds me of how simple mismanagement and greed are what kill IPs
Well to be fair, you could only MAYBE call it mismanagement this time.
What killed crash this time around was just straight up spite for people who actually liked the games, while also for some weird reason, designing it for youtubers who pretend to like the games.

>>712965641
CEOS and execs aren't supposed to be smart or introspective. They don't adhere to logic or long term goals. The Tony Hawk remakes were also done by VV and Beenox. Yes it would have made more sense to have them use the assets from the remakes, doing visual touch ups or alterations to save fucking money ironically. Yeah it would have made sense to keep that artstyle people were used to rather than making a whole new one which was again a problem thats stuck with the franchise since Wrath of Cortex. But Activision is not a logical corporation and now most certainly of all is Microsoft. Microsoft who killed Halo their flagship, their ace in the hole. Even George Lucas couldnt kill Star Wars with the prequels he didn’t make people lose faith in the messages of talking ghosts telling teenagers to use space magic to kill everyone in sight. But Disney killed it in 4 years time.

My point is incompetence and the lizard-men execs are killing everything we like. People so detached from basic cause and effect choice or common sense.

>>712966047
It just seems to counter-intuitive to me
>Make money
>Kill the thing that made money
>Don't make more money off of thing, sitting on it.
I know about the legal loop holes and tax shit that allows these companies to keep making money despite this shit, but it eventually has to crumble right?

>>712953884 (OP)
I don't understand why they haven't port CTR to PC.

>>712966685
they dont want people hacking the game and getting around all the microtransactions with a mod

>>712966685
Microtransaction crap and admittedly the online immediately shat itself to death because CTR:NF has zero faggotry deterrence.

>>712966217
It wont crumble because they have other people to sustain their other ventures. Blizzdrones who play WoW, Overwatch or the endless people who will buy the next COD and all of the MTX that comes with. Oh and Candy Crush too, thats a big one. For every man who wants mascot platformers like Spyro or Banjo to return theres another 10,000 people who feed Activisions bad and existing practices. I’m sure Rumble failing also validated them because they saw Crash as a non-profitable IP when turned into a strict multiplayer IP.

>>712965649
Then is fine they dont buy it, and I dont think they could get the game they want really. no matter who makes it.

>>712968020
In that case, don't chastise people for wanting the best for their buck.

>>712965649
>You speak as if people have to ALWAYS accept everything and not complain because they should be grateful for a fucking product they have to pay money for.
The problem is this is how most people think. With anything it could be something as ordering food at a restaurant and its undercooked.

>>712965291
Extreme mental illness.
Crash 4 isn't abysmal, it's pretty good but has flaws and Crash Assfaggots isn't something they got to choose to make, it's something the IP holder forced on them. But go off if it's what makes you and your brain damage happy

>>712965635
>And it reminds me of how simple mismanagement and greed are what kill IPs not endless mediocrity.

It's fucking crazy to me. It would be one thing if it was a stream of mediocre games tanking sales, but Crash sold 35 million copies across 3 games, all of which cost a fraction to make compared to most AAA games. Killing a franchise because Activision thought 5 million copies was "disappointing" is crazy to me.

>>712970653
>Crash 4 isn't abysmal, it's pretty good
No, it isn't, and you really should stop wasting time trying to force the opinion that it is.
The game's basically as polished and as finished as it can be without Wumpa League/Team Rumble being recycled into its own thing.
There isn't even the Wrath Of Cortex/Twinsanity thing people can point to where the game is unfinished and if they actually had the time to finish them it wouldn't be jank.
There isn't the Titans/Mutant thing where it's different enough for that to be why people dislike it.
IT'S JUST
BAD.

>>712956032
Anon, CTR IS a Naughty Dog game
He's right, the only good games were the ND ones

how much did crash 4 sold alone?
is it true nu Tawna crashed the franchise with no survivors?

>Waahh waah waah
Crash lost
Sonic will get Crossworlds

>>712971670
Regardless of sales
>2017 Crash N. Sane launches
>2018 Crash N. Sane goes multiplat (Spyro Reignited Releases, and Toys For Blob start work on Crash 4)
>2019 Nitro Fueled
>2020 Crash 4 is shat out
>2021 (4 months later) Crash 4 is dropped onto PC
>2022 Nothing
>2023 Multiplayer mode is recycled into CRASHFAGGOTS
>2024 Nothing
>2025 Nothing
>2026 (prospectively nothing)

>>712963004
>Crash is a far more beloved character than sonic
lol

>>712953884 (OP)
Activision doesn't need Crash, Sega needs Sonic. That's the gist of it. When we talk about Capcom leaving behind Mega Man, or Ubisoft and Rayman, Konami and Castlevania, these are companies who have far more profitable IPs and their platformers are chump change by comparison. Sega doesn't really have any Resident Evil tier IP to fall back on. Yakuza has been slowly gaining traction but still far from carrying the company.

that or the characters sucks.

>>712972426
konami's flagship ip is bomberman and before that it was contra. Castlevania been dead since harmony of despair that's like 13 years ago

>>712972527
Sales say otherwise

>>712972129
Yep

>>712972426
>Yakuza has been slowly gaining traction but still far from carrying the company.

Don't understand how its gaining any traction. In real life Yakuza are weak and dying out and got replaced by more underground criminal networks. And Yakuza is a shit series Kiryu has got to be one of the most NON criminal characters ever. Even Sly Cooper a cartoony racoon has characters who truly behave like breakers of the law.

But yeah Sega doesn't have much going on I suspect their new Shinobi and Streets of Rage game to be failures.

>>712972647
>konami's flagship ip is bomberman
Bomberman was former Hudson and even then it's not a big franchise. Maybe that Bombergirl thing I sometimes see posted makes them money because tits sell. But are you forgetting they have Metal Gear?
Konami's difficulty with MGS is just that it's heavily attached to Kojima and making a MGS6 without him would be risky. Probably why they keep betting on Silent Hill in the hopes of it turning into their RE.

>>712972940
Shinobi's probably screwed since SEGA are dumb and are sticking with Denuvo and their (Denuvo's) shills were being fags to SEGA's customers basically everywhere.

>>712973000
Bombergirl actually isn't that popular. It just has really desperate lonely coomer retards desperately trying to get people to start playing it.

>>712953884 (OP)
The Crash characters are trash. They look like lazily designed slop and ugly. And don't bother saying Coco because off model art is what's rescuing her. The Crash characters look unappealing and looking better than shit like Adventure Time is no big accomplishment.

Sonic on the other hand has great character designs. Sonic was inspired by Felix and Mickey Mouse. And though Felix has fizzled out Mickey Mouse has lasted nearly a hundred years due to his design. Sonic characters have great designs and better yet great personalities which also helps them gain spin offs. Crash characters are so lame you can't really rely on them for individual spin offs make a Dingodile spin off and watch it sell like shit.

>>712972837
>normies bought it on PS4 and Xbone because they have nothing else
>immediatly forget it after
great

>>712971518
You really should stop wasting time trying to force the opinion that it's fucking dogshit. You're huffing your own farts and magnifying every perceived flaw while also ignoring and omitting every positive the game has
>>712971670
publishers don't reveal sales so it's all estimates, dude trust me bros and liberally interpreted investor reports

>>712973186
>no YOU'RE trying to force the opinion that people don't like it
I can't state it any more clearly anon.
It brings me no joy that the game is shit.
I would strongly prefer if it wasn't bad, but it is.

Given Tony Hawk is getting more remakes, I'm guessing we're getting a Wrath of Cortex remake if microsoft decides to publish another Crash game. No clue what dev team they'll get to do it.

>>712973186
>omitting every positive the game has
The bad FAR outweights the good.

>>712973000
bomberman literally had a new game in 2023 and it wasn't outsourced shit like contra
>mgs3 remake
New games retard and bomberman is a cameo there anyway

>>712973000
Silent Hill at its foundation can never be like Resident Evil. RE is all about the cheesy B Horror with action and big guns. Silent Hill can't do that, especially since later Resident Evil games bank on having a merchant mechanic that sells gun upgrades and Silent Hill you are in a desolate town with no living humans who can be the merchant. And I know the new Silnt Hill F does not take place in Silent Hill the town, but it doesn't change the reality that you cannot force SH to be RE.

It just doesn't work like that. And about Metal Gear the biggest problem with Metal Gear is that the story ENDED. Its never been this evergreen property because it ended its linear story and its linear story is heavily fueled by events and politics of real life like the Cold War or Nine Eleven and the whole ai technology fiasco. Metal Gear is a very personalized Kojima opinion piece. You literally cannot have Metal Gear without Kojima. I mean you can try with examples like Metal Gear Acid or Ghost Babel but your results will be middling.

Konami is fucked when you think about it because they don't have a timeless brand they can exploit and no, Yu Gi Oh doesn't count that's a license Konami pays to make use of. Its not THEIRS.

Crash PS1 trilogy and N.Sane Trilogy are enough for me, both are masterpieces and probably my favorite platformers of all time.

We got three distinct games with their own style and appeal, as well as an extremely solid remake from devs who are clearly fans of the originals who treated the games with the respect they deserved. I'm happy with that, don't need to keep dragging the IP through the mud with incompetent devs who don't care

>>712973592
>bomberman literally had a new game in 2023
The one that shutdown?
>mgs3 remake
Not an original game so they won't draw the full ire of the Kojima fandom.
Konami in general is an oddity compared to the other examples I mentioned since they seemed heavily reliant on Kojima and when that whole debacle happened they practically left the console gaming space. Over the last few years they've been slowly trying to get back to it. Compare this to the other companies I mentioned who simply stopping making their mascot platformers because they had something else that sold far more.

>>712973985
Exactly, once Konami runs out of Metal Gear Remakes they are finished because in their catalogue they don't have timeless properties that you can sell.

Now Konami could try to hire talented young blood to make new original brands and if they're lucky they are timeless brands with universal appeal. But you need to get SERIOUSLY lucky to get that. And I don't see young developers doing that for Konami. Especially since Konami does have a negative reputation in the gaming industry about abusing employees. I think young workers prefer working at other companies or go indie.

pc doesn't matter, it's a poorfag platform
>bb-but $4k computers
99.9% of pc users are third worlders on toasters pirating shit at 20fps and editing the game files to lower graphics below the lowest setting

>>712974197
Anon I don't want to be a dick, but Silent Hill is WAY more popular than metal gear, not to mention they have Castlevania and Contra.

>>712971518
>"It's just le bad because I say so"
Seethe harder fag, Crash was never about difficulty but how it looked compared to Mario and Sonic at the time, and having a style that kept alive the cartoon feel while making it accessible for everybody was the right decision.

>>712953884 (OP)
They should put Crash in Crossworlds to end the feud war between the two franchises

>>712974581
>Seethe harder fag
Anon, you're literally crying that people think Crash 4 is shit and demanding that they stop that.
There's nothing for me to seethe about.
If anyone needs to stop seething, it's you.

>>712962119
>KH3

That’s a whole other thread topic

>>712974806
Eh, maybe I'm spoiled for the rather unique position I'm in, but I'd say I was pretty disappointed in both KH2 and KH3, largely for the way they play the same and are different from KH1.

Crash threads only stay around based on people arguing about Crash 4.

>>712974843
Also I straight up didn't play KH2 until it released on Steam last year.

>>712973848
In general I agree but in theory SH is more evergreen than RE since it's a series with constant new characters unlike RE with a recurring cast that's actively aging and sooner or later will have to be killed off. Some of their newer cast members aren't as memorable as Chris, Leon or Jill. But RE's action is always going to keep it ahead of SH.
>>712974482
I don't think that's true. SH has always been more of a cult series while MGS actually sells. Konami is just stuck between a rock and a hard place since it's such an auteur series. Castlevania and Contra are also more "retro franchises". A new game could come out but it's not going to be seen as anything more than a retro throwback like when Capcom made Megaman 11.
Personally I think Castlevania is bound to return one of these days and I think Konami are going to really try their best to make it relevant on the same level as some new From game but who knows. Maybe it's just wishful thinking.

>>712974843
yeah, 2 and CoM was where the Disney parts of the series stopped being fun, but at least CoM was shitty GBA game that made you tune out the shitty Disney levels, but that made people still hold hope that 2 would do it right and didn't so the whole middle of the game is a grindy chore

>>712963142
Despite the damage 06 did to Sonic, he still got a ton of stuff, it could have very killed the franchise, the only thing it killed was the type of credibility Sonic used to get on the same level as Mario and Zelda. 06 being bad is like if Mario Galaxy or Twilight Princess were bad, and this was next gen at the time too.

>>712963495
Definitely Merchandising, where’s the Crash Bandicoot Merch?

>>712974806
I'm more annoyed by how many people defend the current state of Kingdom Hearts. Every time critique is thrown at Kingdom Hearts the fans here say....

No Kingdom Hearts 4 is gong to sell great! We still have BAD Disney Movies and DAMAGED Star Wars with Mark Hammill being a shitty Leftist mouthpiece and the original story is actually BAD but that's what makes it cringekino and the gameplay has NEVER faltered!

I am tired of the bullshit. My hope is Kingdom Hearts fails and is discontinued. I don't mind a game series lasting for as long as possible but Kingdom Hearts became a MESS as early as Hey Lets Release The First Kingdom Hearts Sequal A PS2 Game on the Gameboy Advance. And from there it spiraled into a huge mess.

Kingdom Hearts DESERVES to fail.

I never understood crash, it's like subway surfers for furries

>>712963851
Damn a Crash cartoon adaptation would’ve been wild and goofy in the 90s well before the time of censorship where they could sneak in innuendos and other cool stuff that just wouldn’t work today since the internet is too big and everyone complains about stupid stuff on it.

>>712975104
>I never understood crash, it's like [bad thing it's not like because I'm mad about a game I'm completely unfamiliar with]
I wonder where the confusion came in

>>712974898
Resident Evil if you ask me has already ran out of fuel. And I hate what that one faggot Capcom executive said "That even if the characters in Resident Evil are fifty years old we will still depict them as if they have never aged." And now you understand why Chris who is FIFTY looks like he's merely a young college student (that and he takes steroids). Its disgusting.

And about the new RE game I don't like the annoying bland normie bitch female protagonist that the LOSERS who come here pretend she's this Sexual Bombshell. I am simply not playing that game because the main lead does not interest me. And that's another thing I hated the main protagonist of Resident Evil 7 and 8, some beta simp lame loser who died because he wanted his CRIMINAL wife to get away with her crimes. This is shit.

>>712953884 (OP)
According to VGChartz:
>Sonic The Hedgehog series sold 110 Million copies
>Crash Bandicoot series sold 75 Million copies
how does this little orange nigga do it despite having way less games?

>>712964482
>No one wants to make Crash games these days

First time?

>>712975190
you seem retarded

>>712975249

>>712964682
>Be grateful Crash sold great unlike eternal low sellers like Klonoa, Bomberman, or Mega Man or Castlevania

Don’t even get me started on Banjo & Kazooie

>>712974898
Castlevania's Netflix series was really popular for better or worse so Konami defintely has plans for new games.

>>712974898
For Castlevania to make a return it needs to embrace 3D action mechanics and I mean do them good because by NOW if you don't know how to make a 3D game on the basic level you are fucking dead. Look at Devil May Cry hell look at Ninja Gaiden which is around as old as Castlevania. It went 3D without problems while Castlevania is still stuck with wonky shoddy results.

No matter what you need to get Castlevania in 3D right or it WILL remain dead. Very few 2D games are respected in the modern day like Hollow Knight or Cuphead and as much as I HATE this one Undertale. Castlevania has no future in 2D. This is also why I suspect Bloodstained 2 to be a future failure.

>>712975282
I don't hold a completely irrational level of resentment for a game I can't even be fucked with becoming familiar with.

>>712965635
>mismanagement

Happens way too much for colorful cartoony game characters that aren’t under Nintendo’s care, well some may argue not even Nintendo can juggle their own characters accordingly.

>>712975387
Okay? Not sure what that has to do with anything. Fucking schizo

>>712975169
Political correctness cannot last forever but by the time it dies, so will the United States. Jewish funded Feminism has been a disaster for humanity. And to hell with diversity and homo shit. And since we're talking about Crash who was created by Naughty Dog I hope their new Ugly Dyke Movie Intergalactic is a failure so extreme it kills Naughty Dog and that they blacklist everyone in that shitty studio. Maybe if we're lucky angry Mexicans will kill Druckman and his faggot coworkers.

>>712975495
I don't think Klonoa is mismanaged. Klonoa is a failure because he has a bad concept from the start.

Klonoa looks stupid, he has HUGE Disney Dumbo Ears. How does Klonoa not hurt himself due to having long ears like that? Klonoa's gameplay is also not engaging it handles slower than even Donkey Kong Country because its a puzzle platformer so that's not exactly thrilling and fun.

The other thing really hurting Klonoa is the voice acting the characters speak with a Fictional Language that literally sounds Baby Like. That is lame as hell. Kids never want to play something that seems infantile which Klonoa sounds.

Finally the story, if you can take the story seriously despite the Baby Fictional Language the story in Klonoa games has a horrible formula because the set up of Klonoa stories goes like this...

Klonoa explores a world he meets people and new friends and then Klonoa leaves that world NEVER to see his friends again.

So that leaves us with no reason to get attached to anything because Klonoa always discards the characters he meets and in the case of Klonoa 2 the events of the first game are never referred to so its like not even the first game happened. Klonoa overall is shit and deserved to fail.

>>712973319
Problem is with remaking both WoC and Twinsanity is that a direct "remake" like N.Sane Trilogy won't cut it, they are going to have to be ground up new games adding in cut content or making the game more tolerable. Twinsanity will get the better side of things, since that game's cut content is very fucking well known, but WoC is going to be a harder sell considering what we got was a last minute game after the original concept got scrapped entirely.
If they do WoC, I hope they find some way for the bosses of the previous games to be in a more interesting place, making them stage hazards for the atlas sphere is wrong.

>>712975361
I agree. The only 2D games that really make any waves are indies and even then they're not as seen as big a deal as whatever AAA game is coming out just because it's 2D. If Castlevania were to come back and be actually relevant it would need to be 3D.
To bring this back to topic, Sonic would've died had they downsized the series just to 2D. Even if the games were masterpieces it would've been a death knell for the series. The fact that the series actually kept going in 3D even with everyone telling to stop is what kept it alive.

>>712975960
I mean they could always just do what they intended to do
Have the suped up with the elemental mask versions of the bosses be the bosses for warp rooms 1-4 with the brainwashed Crunch (he was supposed to be playable and was recycled for the other bosses since he had a way more polished model) only the boss of Warp Room 5.
Then there wouldn't be that completely weird out of place line at the end where Crunch was acting like he was brainwashed since that was a dropped plot point.

>>712976232
I wonder who each would've been? My guess:
>Ro-Ko: Tiny
>Wa-Wa: N. Tropy (Flow of time, get it?)
>Py-Ro: Dingodile (Duh)
>Lo-Lo: ... have no fucking clue, the answer might've been N.Gin but it doesn't fit him at all.

>>712953884 (OP)
Its Activition...Anon.
They dont care about Crash. They only care about games that make 10-20 millions in 1 week. Crash did not.

Just look at his recent game. It got shut down the servers in just a couple of months.

>>712962119
Except for a few details like new Tawna, no running shoes or the bloat, it's exactly what I wanted from a new attempt at a sequel to Crash 3 after all these years and I'm fine if that's the last we'll get of the platformers in this series.

That said I am curious how a VV or Beenox-made Crash 4 would've turned out but oh well.

>>712976524
>it's exactly what I wanted from a new attempt at a sequel to Crash 3 after all these years
You wanted a sequel to crash 3 to downgrade powerups to stage gimmicks, to have terrible level design and them expecting you to replay every stage like 5 times?

>>712975293
What disingenuousness. Each one of those is about a 2 hour game. That's 22 hours of content you're displaying. It only looks like a big list when you laboriously list every single robot master.
>YOU HAVE A LOT IF I MULTIPLY YOUR GAMES BY 8!

>>712953884 (OP)
crash bandicoot just doesn't have presence. he's like bomberman: a star from a bygone era turned complete stranger

>>712976703
also crash is nobody's baby. actishitzard and microshaft couldn't care less what happens to him. meanwhile sonic is sega's mascot and pretty much part of its identity, like what mario is to nintendo

It occurs to me that Activision is counting FREE GAMEPASS DOWNLOADS as "sales" for Nsane and Nitro fueled. Pathetic.

>>712976779
That seems very likely.

>>712976779
Pretty sure the number would be a lot higher if that was the case, but you can never really be too sure these days since the default tactic is to just completely bullshit all associated metrics and hope the precession of bag holders fail to notice

>>712976971
>the number would be a lot higher
It's double the confirmed sales we got five years ago. Note that the new CTR numbers came after the gamepass announcement several months ago.

>>712976592
Level design was great, they did fun things with the series' crate mechanics. Future Tense by VV felt a bit too copypaste to me in comparison. Them expecting the player to replay every stage many times is part of what I consider bloat and drags the game down

>>712977192
Why are you still comparing Crash 4 first month sales to the total of every other entry?

>>712953884 (OP)
jeetmakes won I guess

>>712974605
At this point, agreed. I'm just scared that drawing in Crash fans will lead them to saying it isn't as good as CTR or preferring to play as Crash in that
>>712976756
This

>>712977561
>Jeetmakes
>the only weird case was Vicarious Visions the devs behind Nitro Kart remade Crash 1-3 and Beenox for some reason remade the kart racer

>>712977681
Oh wait, did VV make the GBA games, or was it someone else?
I guess it's a little less weird if they did, but still kinda.

>>712976232
Crunch being the boss 6 fucking times is funny in context. Even as a kid I questioned the validity of him as this “super weapon.” He loses 6 times to Crash with elemental amplifications no less. Then he loses twice when having access to the elementals all at once and Cortexs help. They spent all this time hyping him up to surpass the MC.

>>712977874
It's on brand for Cortex. All of his "Cortex Commandos" suck in some shape or form. Crash included.

Just like Crash 2 improved on Crash 1, despite the several baffling decisions they made I think TFB would've taken the right lessons from Crash 4 feedback and improved upon it in 5 given the chance. I don't think this is the right move for Crash now though. They should either make CTR2 or an enhanced re-release of NF so that Microsoft has a big kart racer to compete with MK and Sonic. Sleeping on this franchise entirely is a stupid move

>>712953884 (OP)
>20M units sold
but literally nobody gives a shit about crash bandicoot
i think its like with the newest assassins creed where they say
>20 GORILLION PLAYERS
but in reality its gigacope and 90% of those come from the free game passes
lets be real, how often was the line
>bro, hop on crash team racing! (tm)
said on this planet? maybe 2 times?
everyone playing mario kart, not that its a better game, but who gives a shit about crash team racing

>>712978427
Personally, I don't say "hop onto CTR" because I refuse to renew any online subscription at the moment and unfortunately no PC means that that's the only way I will be able to play online.

>>712956032
I don't see Crash here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

the difference is sega doesn't have anything other than sonic

>>712980021
...What?
Are you stupid or something?
Or you Sonicfag only care about Sonic?
Literally Yazuka OR Persona OR FUCKING VOCALOID is more popuplar than your failed mascot furry

>>712953884 (OP)
Actiblizz being run by some of the greediest faggots in the industry thanks to both CoD and the early revival setting near-impossible standards, and T4B mishandling Crash/Spyro back to back sure as hell didn't help. Now they're in Microsaar's forgotten rape dungeon of industry-takeover alongside all of Rareware where Crash's ass will bottom to Banjo until they maybe decide to try again.

SEGA meanwhile makes everything on a shoestring budget since they're too retarded for anything bigger (see: Hyenas) and used to survive off arcades before 'rona killed that too, so they gotta milk and prostitute out what brand recognition they have to its fullest no matter how mediocre the Sonic zombie has become.

>>712980115
>Literally Yazuka OR Persona OR FUCKING VOCALOID is more popuplar than your failed mascot furry
>>>popuplar
You're not gonna find any of that shit here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises
or here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises
Sonic is way more popular than those literally whos.

>>712979019
Then why do latest sonic games sell like shit?

>>712978427
it remind me Horizon

>>712980785
Sonic Frontier sold three million and the game is half baked. Those are good sales for a half banked game. Sonic has the magic touch in that Sonic does NOT need to actually be good to sell.

Honestly I wish Sonic would actually start failing but it seems like the worse Sonic is the better the sales.

>>712965034
>Canonically Crash Bandicoot is RETARDED.
Crash learned how to fly a plane the second he got in one. He's insane, but he's not retarded.

>>712980115
>counting segagaga
>literal shitpost game that sold like 1 thousand copies

Maybe Crossworlds will put the crashfags out of their misery

PS/microsoft killed a lot of franchises just for the LOLZ

>>712981420
prepare for flop sonicfag

>>712981520
activision already canned crash 5, dunno why you are blaming microsoft

>>712981420
It's weird how their franchise is literally dead and they are still seething about Sonic for some reason.

I for one don't understand this crash/sonic rivalry, I like both games and hope the best for both.
Was this shitposting from the N.Sane trilogy days when forces was the latest big sonic game?

>>712965294
TF had good enemy designs bro

>click on crash thread
>dont see coco's cocos
The fuck you guys doing?

>>712981916
Just remnants from the dead /ctrg/ that got unceremoniously killed when 4 came out.

Team Sonic Racing was still the better game.

>>712953884 (OP)
sega needs sonic to survive
activision doesnt need crash

Sonic is on children's t-shirts and school bags.
They wouldn't be able to name a Crash character.

>>712954425
skill issue

>>712982430
Transformed is easily the best kart game since CTR and I'm so pissed that we never got a proper sequel out of CTR.
I haven't played the sonic only racing game so I won't comment on its quality.
I also want to be optimistic of the world one but so far I don't like how stiff the cars look

>lol no one cares about Crash
Someone post the Croc image.
It always feels like that with these old Playstation franchises. Apparently they're dead and buried and no one gives a shit yet usually sold way more than whatever the internet says is popular, because usually the fans of said Playstation games were normal people
Like Tekken selling more than Street Fighter, Crash and Spyro selling more than any other mascot platformer not named Mario, The PS2 God of War games selling more than DMC and so on and so forth

Crash 2 and 3, and CTR are the most simple fun I've had with vidya and I replay them every couple of years. I even enjoyed Crash Bash. Twinsanity was ok, and everything else was terrible (I kind of enjoyed Crash Purple on GBA when I was a kid)

>>712953884 (OP)
Your mom probably recognizes Sonic. Show 10 people off the street a picture of Crash and there's a good chance that they'd be clueless. What surprises me is how many kids apparently know and like Shadow. How did they learn about him?

>>712984280
How can you ask this question given the success of the recent theatrical Sonic Movies the latest one being about Shadow himself. Anyway Sonic has a new generation of future diehard autists because of those shitty movies which are reheated leftover nostalgia farts.

My hope is the new Sonic Movie 4 is the death of these shitty movies since its about Hollywood Jewish Feminism Amy Rose.

>>712984915
>How can you ask this question given the success of the recent theatrical Sonic Movies the latest one being about Shadow himself.
I meant before Sonic 3. Shadow never stopped being popular with kids despite him not showing up in much. And it's not like little kids were playing Adventure 2.

Crash fans fighting with Sonic fans are dumb. Sonic fans are not our enemies. The Sonic franchise is not the reason Crash doesn't get new games. Sega is not the reason Crash has not gotten any movies.

It's fucking Activision, and Microsoft. Every issue that the Crash franchise has, is because of shitty executive decisions. Nitro Fueled not on PC: Activision being short sighted retards. Crash 4 being a woke slopfest: Activision chasing idiotic trends for an imaginary "modern audience". Crash getting a mobile game: Don't you guys have phones? Crash getting a retarded spin-off game literally no one asked for by the studio that tanked their last big title: You better believe it, fucking Activision. Crash not getting a new game for years: Microsoft probably as a result of Activision's poor handling.

Don't hate Sonic, hate big corpo.

>>712984280
Everyone knows crash, he was huge in ps1

>>712983147
It's autists vs normal people as you said
it wraps preception since autists talk to other autists and don't see normal people so they think autism is popular

>>712983147

The “normal people” you speak of don’t give a shit about Crash past the PS1, however, which is a big part of why 4 underperformed in comparison to the remakes.

>>712963421
Sex with these creatures.

>>712953884 (OP)
Activision is cutthroat and rewards success with layoffs and being sent to the CoD/Blizzard mines.

Sega barely gives a shit and produces everything cheaply.

>>712976592
the anti-grav and time slowing were really fun gimmicks and I thought the level design was good. I do agree that the n.verted shit is atrocious though

>>712962119
I liked it more than 1 and 3. I really don't get the outrage.

>>712987939
I think some people let one or two minor flaws ruin the whole thing for them because they just can't accept that something wasn't perfect

>>712983147
Selling well in the moment doesn't mean you remain popular or were even very well liked. It's how you get stuff like Bioshock Infinite. Sold a gorillion copies, but nobody cares about it anymore.

>>712988037
I think that's half of it: some people wanted more of the exact same despite 1, 2 and 3 all being pretty different.

I think the other half is the same kind of people trying to force "Wokey Kong" right now.

>>712988113
yeah people correlate quality with sales but it isn't always true. Sometimes shit gets popular cause of external factors like lucky timing or whatever (see outriders mattering for a few months) and it's also why hidden gems exist

>>712988037
>>712988226
The aesthetics aren't that great for a Crash game I feel.
That and trying to beat everything the game offered has soured my opinion thoroughly, making some things I could've brushed off (Other character segments requiring you to finish the level normally afterwards) into genuine annoyances (These segments have their own wumpa fruit and gems).

>>712988231
I was more getting at being "popular" in the moment doesn't mean you stay popular. Pokemon is popular. Yokai Watch was a fad.

Crash definitely has more cultural impact and staying power than something like Croc, but no, he doesn't have the actual popularity of something like Sonic where he can sell on brand alone. The utter failure of a lot of the 00s games is proof of that.

>>712987625
>which is a big part of why 4 underperformed in comparison to the remakes.
5 million sales, more than all of recent sonic games

what are sonic games then? mega flops?

>>712987939

The asinine amount of filler creates a “death by 1000 cuts” scenario.

>>712988369
I like nu-crash and coco well enough, it was just tumblr tawna I didn't like. The rest of the aesthetics I didn't mind

>>712988369
It's fair to say you don't like the art style. I think anon and I were talking about the kind of people who treat it like a travesty.

I think the 100% stuff is dumb, but I think it's dumb in most games and worrying about it instead of playing the game how you like is goofy.

>>712988369
>trying to beat everything the game offered has soured my opinion thoroughly
yeah I like crash 4 because I didn't really bother with 100% completion, just a regular playthrough it's a pretty good time

>>712988439
You can literally just choose not to engage with that stuff. I understand that kind of criticism for games that force you to do stupid filler bullshit, but you really can just ignore it in 4.

>>712988475
See, the problem is that I had a blast 100%ing the original trilogy, even went through the effort of getting the platinum relics across all three games in N.Sane trilogy, so I was expecting a similar experience in 4. I was sorely wrong. I admit though that this is a completely biased outlook and not indicative of how a sane person would play.

>>712964670
>Only Naughty Dog cared about Crash
*original naughty dog
Current naughty dog has 0% of the old naughty dog devs

>>712988586
I mean yeah, and that's because 4's 100 is asking for extra stuff. The player can just do what would count as 100% in Crash 2 or 3 and the only sore spot would be time trials because the levels are way longer.

Definitely fair to say "that's dumb, they're dumb, absolutely stupid 100% requirements," but a lot of people take it as a huge game problem instead of the extrinsic validation being presented weirdly. Fuck, I think most people would be fine with it if the counter just went up to like 400% and the player hit 100 by doing normal 100%.

I always think of F-Zero GX for stuff like this: I am *never* going to 100% that game and get all the movies, and that pissed me off as a kid, but as an adult I realize it's a silly thing to get worked up over.

>>712988818
Can't say I fully agree because I am a person who does love doing completionist runs of games, but I know I am in the minority with that.

>>712988923
I get it. I was like that. And like I said, I think it works as a point of criticism. The way it's presented is dumb and encourages players to stop having fun.

>>712963980
>>712965307
>>712973319
Considering how 3D platformers are back in fashion, now seems like the best time to drop a Twinsanity redux. Crash 4 is fine and all but realistically it's not ever going to live up to anyone's expectations.

>>712988037
>one or two minor flaws
That's a laugh.

>>712988536
Being optional doesn't make it immune to criticism.

>>712990246
>excuse me sir this three course dinner is great but this dessert is just a cow turd
>you don't have to eat that, wasn't your dinner just fine without it?
>oh well in that case

Crash 4 is heavily flawed and just because you can ignore most of its worst parts doesn't mean much when 100%ing the originals were the most fun you could get out of them.

>>712990246
>>712990458
>Just ignores the rest of the reply chain where it's explained that yes, it is valid criticism and I also think it's stupid.

Only the best and brightest on call today.

>>712990458
>DanganRonpa character tells you to kill yourself.
>You do it.
>"Wtf, this game is shit!"
I think this is closer than a food analogy.

Reminder: The extra gems grind, and general bullshit in Crash 4 were actually stealth microtransactions. Activision were planning to sell you those skins if you didn't want to get gems.

Always online single player game, lol.

>>712990648
>yes, it is valid criticism and I also think it's stupid.
No, what you actually said was
>I understand that kind of criticism for games that force you to do stupid filler bullshit, but you really can just ignore it in 4.
Which is essentially just defending optional stuff for just being optional. Stop being disingenuous.

>>712953884 (OP)
Excellent, very nice, now show me the sales for stuff that aren't remakes of Crash's 4 acclaimed games.

I'll tell you right now, Crash 4 cratered to 25% of the trilogies sales

>>712990954
I thought you were responding to the other reply chain. My bad. Here, let me help you
>>712989030
>I get it. I was like that. And like I said, I think it works as a point of criticism. The way it's presented is dumb and encourages players to stop having fun.

>>712953884 (OP)
Honestly, these numbers are insane for a remaster of a platformer trilogy from the PSX. Shame about the hitboxes being worse than the originals'.

>>712978427
this, imagine trusting activision's (((numbers)))
>"this series sells more than fucking call of duty but we're not gonna do anything with it teehee"
yeah right

>>712990995
now see sonic sales >>712956032

>>712953884 (OP)
sad
crashbros....

>>712991440
NTA but Sonic games sell perpetually. Literal millions in years where nothing releases.

Didn't Toys for Bob do Spyro announcement teases a while back?

>>712993194
That's because it has games every year, multiple per year even

>>712956032
i´m pretty sure sega doesn´t care about updating sales figures as much as activsion does, not to mention this chart might not even be counting stuff like releases of the classic games or the adventure games into their sales figures

>>712976698
I don't get why people are pulling this ungrateful/greedy bullshit. Mega Man got a lot of games, all with their own flavor. No shit people want more of it because they like them. Same with Crash selling more than the other franchises this faggot here >>712964682, and ironically he brought up Mega Man too. Crash sold, those other series didn't. Simple as that. Take it up with the companies who make those games, not the people of a franchise completely unrelated to them.

>>712983147
>Someone post the Croc image
...which is the prime example of how something can sell well yet still not be fondly remembered?
what?

>>712990458
I can't believe Mega Man 9 would be so fucking shit, bros...

>>712976698
>It doesn't count unless it hits an arbitrary hour limit assuming you never make mistakes during your playthrough
Ok dude.
>>712994042
>I don't get why people are pulling this ungrateful/greedy bullshit.
Probably because only children and the mentally disabled talk about how they've been ABUSED and FORGOTTEN when the thing they like ends. Things don't go on forever, it's really not a big deal.

>>712983147
Thinking about how random social media people have dominated gaming discourse for so long that they've shaped what was considered poipular in the past as fiction.

Rare Replay (which included the first 2 Banjo games) is highly valued online. You know whose remake also didn't get praised (or reviewed) as much?

Croc: Legend of the Gobbos

>>712965457
never played kh, but the
>"this bad game sold well!? w-well surely this will reflect in the next game's sales"
meme has always been nothing but cope
it may have been true back in the late 80s/early 90s where your only information about a game's quality was the publisher on the box, playing the previous game or reading a paid magazine for nerds
but nowadays people watch trailers and reviews and shit, their purchase is based on far different factors than their experience with the previous game, especially when releases are like 10 years apart now, more than enough time for cattle to forget regardless, the number one factor right now is probably if their peers bought it or if they saw their favorite jewtuber/streamer play it
had anyone even heard of helldivers 1? did sonic forces' bad reputation stop frontiers from selling better than any sonic game in a decade? if crash 5 was pure undistilled kino and everyone was raving about it, would you (or anyone else) not purchase it simply because you didn't like crash 4?

>>712965034
>Canonically Crash Bandicoot is RETARDED.
That's post Naughty Dog Crash that's retarded. A retard wouldn't be able to pilot the vehicles he drives/flies or operate a fucking jetpack.

>>712994937
>Probably because only children and the mentally disabled talk about how they've been ABUSED and FORGOTTEN when the thing they like ends
>Wanting to pay money for a thing they like makes people retarded and childish
>Conducting business is being ungrateful
Never start a business, you'll fail before the first calendar year.

>>712972426
>Sega needs Sonic.
They really don't. Sonic is kept around because, like Pokemon, Sonic is extremely marketable.
Sega has been making literal billions off of pachinko in Japan thanks to their merger with Sammy a few years back. They can drop out of video games entirely and still be okay.

>>712996770
>Sonictards think they're in the same league as pokemon

>>712976453
>Just look at his recent game. It got shut down the servers in just a couple of months.
Rightfully so. They should have known better. ASSFAGGOTS is a dead genre, because why would someone EVER play any ASSFAGGOTS game when League and DotA(2) are right there? I'm not saying they're good games (they aren't), but they've ruled the genre with iron fists for years and that is not stopping any time soon.

>>712994042
>>712994937
>I don't get why people are pulling this ungrateful/greedy bullshit.
Because you faggots unironically tell fans
>"YOU HAD ENOUGH!! IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S TURN!!"
just because we had some short platforming games back in 19-fucking-90 something with a slow drip where we are lucky if anything happens in decade of nothing. I would never tell Crash fans they're WRONG for wanting more, but you seem to think that's OK for Megaman fans. Fuck off.

>>712997338
Anon, I'm >>712994042 and I agree with your stance on Mega Man and Crash.

>>712982430
>Team Sonic Racing was still the better game.
Team Sonic Racing was garbage, even on its own merits, what are you talking about? If you said SASRT I'd agree with you, but TSR? Really?

>>712996923
Not the point of the post, retard.

>>712961713
>It's on gamepass now
Every single Yakuza game was on gamepass too so i guess they're all failed games and won't be gettin new ones huh?

>>712997594
I am literally fresh out of bed and can barely see out my eyes. Sorry.

>>712997776
All good.
On that note, wasn't Mega Man 11 the best selling Mega Man game period? That speaks for itself that there's still a market for the franchise. Mega Man fans should be playing MM13 and waiting for 14 by now.

>>712988403
>5 million sales, more than all of recent sonic games
You forget that Crash is owned by Activision, who deems anything not performing Call of Duty numbers to be a failure. All the original Crash games sold 5 million each as well, but those games had a fraction of the budget Crash 4 had.
Also, where's Crash's movie? Where's his animated series? Where's his comic book? Where's his merchandise? Where's his podcast? Where's his social media presence? Sonic has all of this, while Crash does not, which is why Sonic still remains relevant to the public.
>what are sonic games then? mega flops?
Sonic games are infamously made on shoestring budgets, so even half a million copies sold will be a profit.

>>712953884 (OP)
crash is the nortubel of gaming that's why

>>712998183
>where's Crash's movie? Where's his animated series? Where's his comic book? Where's his merchandise? Where's his podcast? Where's his social media presence?

It's not the publisher or devs that do it. The merchandisers, tv/movie producers, comic book publishers, etc. have to approach you first. They license the product then make stuff.

>>712998000
Capcom has long been pretty unreasonable about sales expectations. If it ain't making Monster Hunter sales, they can't even spare a small dev team on it.

>>712954363
>autism gets you normalfag movies
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Sonic wins yet again.

ROLL THE WINDOWS UP

>>712997615
>post a twitter-tier nigger reaction pic
>has a twitter-tier nigger opinion
like pottery