Thread 712967186

Their first Switch 2 RPG is gonna look fucking amazing

I think it's a new IP

because their prior games looked so good

>>712967186 (OP)
I really hope is a new IP. I like Xenoblade but I'm getting a little burned out by the series. Or at least if it's going to be Xenoblade I hope it's a new concept and some reboot, maybe a new battle system.

>>712967245
True

>>712967245
Yeah, that's why their new game is going to look amazing, dummy.

>>712967438
I absolutely love sci-fi and monolith has been killing it with that genre. What exactly would you want them to make if you don't want Xenoblade?

>>712967186 (OP)
Still disappointed that there’s no switch 2 patch for the games. I wonder if Nintendo is holding them until a direct or something to wow people

>>712968184
A new RPG series

>>712967186 (OP)
probably
too bad they don't know how to make gameplay

>>712967438
Same. I felt excited by Xenoblade when it began but it's been 15 years of just Xenoblade following a similar formula. 3 is where it started to get a bit stale for me but I think the old dated hardware of Switch didn't help in that regard either.

A new battle system would be cool as I feel like I've had my fill of the MMO style of Xenoblade games and I feel like it's played out by now and been taken as far as it can go. It doesn't excite me as much as it used to.

I think it'll be a new direction for the series and a fresh start since new concepts seems to be a thing Nintendo is doing with Switch 2 software.

>>712968754
3 is stale because the game sucks
just look at this screenshot
>>712967441
where the fuck are the interesting landmarks? why is the whole world just a flat bowl?
the world design is terrible in 3

>>712967245
Yeah? What's the problem?

>>712968754
Would be a welcome change if it’s more action focused but I think it’ll be the same. The next one will just be more in line with X/Xenosaga’s level of tech.

>>712969642
Tbf while the world is absolute ass you can chalk it up due to plot reasons. But yeah, a world similar to 2 would be the best.

>>712969642
The world is a toilet bowl with xenoblade 1 and 2s worlds flowing down the drain.

>>712967319
>>712967371
what is that?

>>712967186 (OP)
If they could keep the same caliber of waifus and the combat from Waifublade 2, it could be awesome.

>>712968267
I just assume they'll release updates for all of them once they announce their new game as a means of cross-promotion "While you wait for Xenoblade 4, 1-3 and X will be receiving free updates for Switch 2"

>>712970557
2 needs the update the most, kinda funny it ended up being the worst aging game

>>712970291
wow, just like the story!

>>712970337
https://cgworld.jp/special-feature/202505-monolithsoft.html

Pics from their cgworld interview

>>712970219
>Tbf while the world is absolute ass you can chalk it up due to plot reasons
"It's bad on purpose" is not a good argument.

>>712967186 (OP)
>Nintendo open world slop
No, sir, I won't like it

>>712967438
I'm not even close to being burnt out by xenoblade games and I've been playing xeno games from the beginning starting with gears. They could literally release a new xenosaga game every year for the next 20 years like they do with Madden and I still wouldn't be even close to burnt out

>>712970694
3 aged the worst. Cope.

>>712967186 (OP)
I want X2
Bring the giant robots and make them combine into an even bigger giant robot

>>712967186 (OP)
Xenoblade X2

enjoy paying 70$ for mediocre open world jarpig gees

>>712967186 (OP)
Its Project Noah

>>712967186 (OP)
I hope it's action game. Doesn't matter if it's Xenoblade or absolutely new setting. Honestly, I feel like that most of JRPG creators always wanted to make action but didn't know how to make it cool so they stuck to RPG gameplay

>>712971440
Kino

Monolith found its new success with Xenoblade 2.

Since then their games have failed to meet the sales of 2 and it feels like they've reached their sales ceiling and keep selling to the same people every game.

Now they're probably gonna be looking to try something a bit different with the next Xenoblade or a new IP to try capture a new audience and more gamers and find their next success. Im looking forward to it.

>>712971751
I don't know. Monolith is the one major developer that still tries to give fan service, does it's own thing and doesn't really care about growing its audience. They've stayed as true to themselves all these years and there's like no one else in gaming who has

>>712972272
They can do whatever they want. They are the reason the switch is a huge success

Hey anons, I've never played any of the Xenoblade games. Should I start with the definitive editions or the originals?

>>712972272
>and doesn't really care about growing its audience

You're really naive if you honestly believe a developer under Nintendo making its own games with their own identity simply do not want more people playing their games and do not actively seek to attract new players.

Absolutely naive and hilarious.

>>712972586
Definitives

>>712968754
Xeno 2 being so anime tropey helps a lot so you don't realize the entire franchise kinda just is a retelling of the same story again and again.
The comedy is just way, way more fundamental to 2, it being so silly balances it being so tragic. while 1 and 3 are kinda more tonally coherent, not so many peaks and valleys of tone shifts.

>>712970891
3 should have the coolest enviroments on the franchise because it should be a "Best hits" of 1 and 2, it has no right being that mediocre when 2 is so beautiful and varied, (1 is Ok but you kinda get bored of how simillar everything is at Mechonis)

>>712972586
Definitive. X and 2 are my favorites but they're all good, at worst.

>>712972586
I could see a point for people liking the Art direction of Wii's 1. But that's kinda it, Definitive is better in every possible way. and X Definitive is not a technicall mess that requires you to waste like 25% of your Switch's internal memory to make it work like the og release does

>>712971640
Probably. But Final Fantasy went action and it sucked.

>>712972839
Uraya was my favorite environment of the entire series, and just the thought of returning there with it being featured on the cover of 3 made me so excited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeec-4RhzW0

They instead give us a hollow area and a handful of platforms with a spider here and there. I don't think they even brought back even an echo of the theme song either.

>>712967186 (OP)
I'm so hyped. I hope we can see it soon

>>712973087
>>712972990
>>712972712
Thanks, anons!

I’m more curious about the art direction/art style they’re going with.

Switch 2 is fully capable of realistic looking games, realistic character models. I feel like Monolith were trying to make realistic looking games but pivot to anime aesthetic in the Switch era due to hardware limitations and X’s failure on the Wii U.

I wonder what they’re going to go with. There’s no hardware cap on models and polygons anymore essentially. Keep in mind, they said Saito is not a permanent character designer and that they’re still looking a designer that can give them a monolith soft “look” (unique industry identifier look to their games).

I’m more curious about the art direction/art style they’re going with.

Switch 2 is fully capable of realistic looking games, realistic character models. I feel like Monolith were trying to make realistic looking games but pivot to anime aesthetic in the Switch era due to hardware limitations and X’s failure on the Wii U.

I wonder what they’re going to go with. There’s no hardware cap on models and polygons anymore essentially. Keep in mind, they said Saito is not a permanent character designer and that they’re still looking a designer that can give them a monolith soft “look” (unique look to their games that people can point out).

>>712972272
>doesn't really care about growing its audience
he literally spoke about the JRPG sales wall in the interview with Harada, he cares about being able to get more people

>>712973107
I disagree. Both remakes of 7 are good.

I’m more curious about the art direction/art style they’re going with.

Switch 2 is fully capable of realistic looking games, realistic character models. I feel like Monolith were trying to make realistic looking games but pivot to anime aesthetic in the Switch era due to hardware limitations and X’s failure on the Wii U.

I wonder what they’re going to go with. There’s no hardware cap on the model’s polygons anymore essentially. Keep in mind, they said Saito is not a permanent character designer and that they’re still looking a designer that can give them a monolith soft “look” (unique look to their games that people can point out).

>>712973139
>Uraya was my favorite environment of the entire series
You have become my favorite anon. I love that you fight Elma there in the DLC, but it made me yearn to fly around there in a skell/doll. Oh well.

>>712973343
Wii was even more power constrained and was arguably going for a more "realistic" art style. I think they went anime because they wanted to go anime. Xenoblade X DE leans into it more too. Plus their anime shading tech is some of the best in the business. Xenoblade 3 had fantastic character rendering, in particular they did an amazing job with lighting.

>man i sure wish monolith took xenoblade in a new direction!
man i wish you fuckers were this accepting of new directions 10 years ago. this game's reception scared monolith so much that even revisiting it they made sure to tie it into XB1. you're not gonna see the end of red-sword driven pseudo-fantasy(surprise it was scifi) shonen until 2027 at the earliest

>>712973139
uraya is literally the first thing I think of when I think of why I love xenoblade 2
>>712973349
it's also where chuuniGOD zeke is introduced

>>712973865
>this game's reception
I get that the game isn't for everyone but it's such a good open world game before there was too fucking much of it. It hurts to see it underperformed even on S1

>>712973673
They should have went full anime with X since they had Tanaka at his full power as a character designer doing his thing. They didn't have the skills, so they gave him potato faces instead, and then they all got traumatized by the reaction to it. Getting Saito on board was because they were impressed with how well Expelled From Paradise looked and animated. And thanks to him, they improved big time with facial animation and character animation in general. 3 was amazingly animated and looked just about perfect.

I think modern gachas have come close-ish. But I'd only put Zenless Zone Zero as the lone gold standard now for anime vidya at the moment.

>>712973865
X was the second game. It makes sense people didn't want that much to change. Now we have 4 games... This isn't pokemon with ultra autistic fan base, they can try new mechanics.

>>712967186 (OP)
Doesn't matter. /v/ isn't going to get excited unless they show the tiddies like Xenoblade 2. I think Nintendo made the call to go safe horny only

>>712973979
Uraya is like the backgrounds of an old PSX JRPG coming to life and just being fully explorable and teaming with life and wonder. Ribbi Flats came sort of close, but that was mostly just from the vibes of the music.

>>712967186 (OP)
ill be here when its just the same games at higher resolutions

>>712967186 (OP)
god I hope they ditch the MMOshit combat

>>712968184
A scifi action game. Not ARPG, pure action.

>>712969642
>where the fuck are the interesting landmarks?
You do know that 1&2 had a lot of empty spaces between the landmarks, right? Also, 3 is much bigger, so it means bigger empty spaces.

xenogears remake

>>712967186 (OP)
The action RPG they've been making since 2018?

>>712974846
Why? Their entire premise as a company is telling stories first and foremost. They like RPGs and do RPGs well.

>>712974930
X shits on the size of 3 and is also far more interesting visually and more fun to explore than anywhere in 3

>>712975037
Does not exist. Holy shit. Xenoblade 3 IS an Action RPG in Japan.

>>712974846
Nah they're an RPG dev. That's their forte.

>>712971751
They will fail, over and over again, because ultimately no one really cares about them and the games they make. They found the right audience, the should have realized that and scaled back on production. Instead, they will increase, shift focus, destroy designs, start having more trouble hitting deadlines, make excuses to Nintendo. Then Nintendo gets mad, starts gutting company and Monolith Soft doesn't exist in the next 10 years, Takahashi feels betrayed again and retires. This happens every single time with this guy and you would think he would learn by now.

>>712975000
They don't own the IP for that so very unlikely.
It's probably just going to be part 1 of a new trilogy.

>>712974846
Why? Play Stellar Blade. Let RPG devs make RPGs.

>>712973343
I dont think they'll use Saito this time. I think whatever it is they're making they'll want to differentiate it visually from the Switch trilogy.

It'll denote a fresh start and new direction for Xenoblade. Or a new IP

>>712967186 (OP)
Will it look better than your run-of-the-mill Unreal 5 gachaslop tho?

>>712975181
>This happens every single time with this guy and you would think he would learn by now

What are you on about? He's fine. They've opened an R&D department in the last few years and have used it to improve their dev efficiency and tech. Monolith and Takahashi have already taken their next steps and he's already directing a new game for a while now.

>>712975245
They would be shooting themselves in the foot. Like it or not, Saito's designs are what made the company. It doesn't matter if it's mech or character, going for anyone else is not only asking for already established players to spit in your eye, but you are taking a big chance on other designers not meshing with the style of game you want.

>>712975330
I'll see you in ten years when Takahashi tried to make Xenoblade 4 (it totally doesn't have anything to do with the last games, really this time) with the main character being a whiny bitch and everyone having "sensible" designs and it became the worst selling of the bunch.

>>712975201
They can probably buy it back dirty cheap. SE sold fucking Tomb Raider for pennies

>>712975340
>going for anyone else is not only asking for already established players to spit in your eye,

Nah Monolith fans are dedicated enough that they'll still be interested in their new game whether Saito is a part of it or not. You're overinflating his importance. Nobody cared about him not being a part of Xenoblade X. Nobody gave a fuck.

>you are taking a big chance on other designers not meshing with the style of game you want

That'll all be talked about and decided in pre-production. What arr you on about pal

>>712975439
SE has a major spiteboner for Takahashi for some reason. It's been over a quarter century since he left them. You'd think the suits he pissed off would have mellowed out or died by now.

>>712972272
>>712972367
What the hell are you autistic fucks talking about

>>712977646
Look at every first party switch game that's in any way ambitious and you'll find monolithsoft carrying them

>>712973343
Oh, I forgot one more thing. They seriously need to ditch the MMO combat for good. Looking at Xenoblade 3 combat animations and they look so good and high quality, but they’re stuck in this dated combat system.

>>712967186 (OP)
Considering CP2077 already runs in 360p in handheld I don't see them delivering anything above that.

>>712978114
What a retarded nonsensical post. No wonder ai impresses you.

>>712975103
No, the action RPG has it's own hiring page separate from Xenoblade and Zelda

>>712967186 (OP)
>>712967319
>>712967371
>>712970337

Monolith Soft did a little technical article about the new software techniques they're using at the studio.
They're using Houdini to generate geometry on a massive scale without the need to manually designing large scenes by hand. They showed off generative creation of terrain detail as well as a cityscape.
I expect whatever games they've been working on will have a gigantic shift in sense of scale compared to their existing games (which already have an amazing sense of scale).

>>712979848
Exactly. They also mentioned how this new efficiency in the creation of the world allows them to focus more on developing the gameplay. I expect new gameplay style in the form of a new battle system and other nuances.

>>712980184
It would be a shame if the new ip carries the xeno system. Its definitely gonna be different. Just like the monsters. I still expect noppons though.

>>712968184
Personally I could see them pull off an excellent Monster Hunter style Game (dont think they'd ever do that though)

>>712980286
Definitely. The battle system is probably the biggest thing holding Xenoblade back from breaking through the 3 million barrier

I want more people to become xenoblade fans other than Twitter trannies pedos and 12 year old sonic fans.

>>712980495
Xeno is great, and the new game has no reaso to be simpler and shallower.

>>712980584
>and the new game has no reaso to be simpler and shallower

You always get the retards who are bizarrely emotionally attached to the MMO gameplay in Xenoblade. It's so fucking weird kek.

>>712967245
For the Wii or Switch, yeah?

They would be selling way more copies if they didn't package such well made worlds/tech with dogshit combat

>>712980584
I'm talking about a hypothetical new IP that's aiming to be more mainstream.
Xenoblade 4 will probably continue building on the previous games. At least I hope so

>>712979848
big scale means we're much more likely to have mecha, too.

>>712982637
Let us make the 4 Mecha into 1 big Mecha... Please Monolith...

>>712982637
Not necessarily.
The image they used for hiring for the new IP team looked like hard fantasy, no mechs in sight. Good, I want them to try something new for once.

>>712984196
Escaflowne was hard fantasy, by the way.

>>712984196
>No mechs in sight
You never learn huh

No cuckshit this time, please.

>>712967245
Yeah