Switch 2 might go the way of the Xbox and just get skipped by third party publishers at this point
two more weeks fellow sony xisters!
>>713090769 (OP)>switch 1 never got GTA and COD>Still sold as much as the nintendo DS in around the same timeSomething is afoot.
This is the fucking Nintendo 64 all over again. Just use discs instead of expensive ass flash storage
>>713091109funny it's the same thin g trannyera said in 2017
oh noes I don't want to miss niggerslop of war 48
>multiplat ports that everyone already played on a better console years prior
>>713090769 (OP)They should try actually putting games on carts, that might help.
>>713090769 (OP)How about they actually sell physical games instead of key card scams?
I really don't want Bravely Default to flop, but I have to wait for the PC version
>>713091168Switch 1 didn't have digital key cards
>>713091109>just make the same mistake the PSP did and have slower loading times as an added bonusNIGGER.
feels like a wii u 2 in the making not gonna lie
>game key card
>game key card
>game key card
>game key card
>game key card
>game key card
Are they treating gamers like idiots?
>people dont want to buy games that have been out for months or years
Wow really no shit
>old ports of games people have played
Your panic is palpable
>>713090769 (OP)I guess that means PS5 is already dead...
Switch 2 launch
>06./00. [NS2] Rune Factory: Guardians of Azuma - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition <SLG> (Marvelous) {2025.06.05} (ยฅ7.980) - 10.877 / NEW>09./00. [NS2] Yakuza 0: Director's Cut <ADV> (Sega) {2025.06.05} (ยฅ5.400) - 7.486 / NEW >15./00. [NS2] Street Fighter 6: Years 1-2 Fighters Edition <FTG> (Capcom) {2025.06.05} (ยฅ7.990) - 5.350 / NEW>16./00. [NS2] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy HD Remaster <RPG> (Square Enix) {2025.06.05} (ยฅ4.500) - 4.963 / NEW>17./00. [NS2] Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition <Cyberpunk 2077 \ Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty> <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2025.06.05} (ยฅ8.480) - 4.070 / NEW>18./00. [NS2] Shine Post: Be Your Idol! <SLG> (Konami) {2025.06.05} (ยฅ8.000) - 3.727 / NEW>20./00. [NS2] Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S <PZL> (Sega) {2025.06.05} (ยฅ4.990) - 3.485 / NEWTotal: 39.968
PS5 launch
>19./00. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.11.13} (ยฅ8.800) - 6.045 / NEW>21./00. [PS5] Godfall # <RPG> (Playism) {2020.11.12} (ยฅ7.900) - 5.342 / NEW>25./00. [PS5] Assassin's Creed: Valhalla # <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2020.11.12} (ยฅ8.400) - 4.227 / NEWTotal: 15.614
>>713091393>this time for sure
>>713090769 (OP)Did Yakuza 0 Director's Cut have any QoL improvements? Like being able to skip the Nishiki walking intro or easily switching to Legend style outside of the pause menu?
>>713091393It has 1/3 of the Wii U's lifetime sales after 10 days
>>713090769 (OP)>we overcharged for a bunch of old games, why isn't it selling?Golly gee I wonder.
>>713090769 (OP)>nintendo console>buying third party gamesLMAO
>>713090769 (OP)>Don't actually sell you the game>Wonder why no one is paying for their shit
Are any of them new games?
>No, only BD is a remaster but it still looks like the DS game it originally was
Why would you be surprised then cunts
>>713090769 (OP)Switch has been my main platform since it came out and I bought a lot of third party games for it, these guys just need to be patient. I'm not made of money, for Christ's sake. That said, I did get Street Fighter 6 a week after launch because I wanted something other than Mario Kart.
>>713091453The Switch 2 sold 3.5 million units in 4 days and outpaced every other console by magnitudes.
Thatโs 3.5 million โpeopleโ who spent $500 on a system with PS4 specs, 1 game, a future library of $80 games that are digital only, and still has stick drift too.
What do you think?
>>713091846Seethe, I don't give a shit about better specs if the console manufacturers don't make any fucking video games.
>>713091846>What do you think?that you sound upset
>>713090769 (OP)Not a single original release on that picture
>>713091790Eh BD's improved sound quality, backgrounds, and smoother models with way less aliasing make it worth it for first time players or big fans of the first game
Still an overall lazy remastet
>>713091846*series s specs
And everyone knows Nintendo games will continually come, unlike snoy who only promises 1 PS5 movie a year
It's not surprising that people don't want to play Cyberpunk 2077 at 720p 30fps.
>>713092201C77 was the best third party seller retard
>>713092151It's not exactly series s specs due to the CPU limitations and battery life. Hopefully nintendo's next platform would have a CPU more powerful than a series X and have better than Xbox one X graphics horsepower in both RAM bandwidth and GPU rendering.
>>713091519>Japan100,000 is considered a success there. Do you think CoD only sold 4 figure copies in the world? It's an incredible small stakes market
>Why is no one buying our overpriced ports of years old games on cartridges that contain nothing?!
>>713090769 (OP)It's almost like people buy fewer games the more expensive they are.
>>713091227>>713091494>>713091504>>713091645>>713091992>>713092465If all switch owners already have a system for third party. Why would they ever buy a new 3rd party game for Switch 2 when they can play a superior version of it instead.
>>713091950You mean like Nintendo?
>>713091959Yeah, anyone would be reasonably upset when hearing about how people vote with their wallets for the worse.
Because you retards gave overprice hardware and overpriced games with cut content a standing ovation, companies are now going to copy Nintendo by releasing even shittier games at a higher price on consoles that are gonna be stuck in gen 8.
>>713090769 (OP)Itโs way too early to be making any definitive determination on whether 3rd party will do well on the switch 2 given the systemโs only been out for 2 weeks and these 3rd-party games are mostly ports of older games. Worth talking about yea, but itโs nothing to freak out over
Xbox never had games, that's why it comes in last every console gen
>>713091453gamers are idiots
>These games didn't sell as well as Mario Kart
Wow, who could have guessed?
>Third party support starts out alright but mainly filled with multiplats that cost more but offer less than they do on other platforms
>Don't sell
>Third parties don't invest in real exclusives for the system
>System is carried entirely by Nintendo's first party output, which is spread thin as the system is backwards compatible so they can't use remasters to fill gaps between notable releases
Pic unrelated
>>713093395Switch 2 is already at 1/3 of this things lifetime sales btw.
Also Mario Kart 8D is the 5th best selling game in world history
>>713090769 (OP)>Scat farter 6Capcom fighters suck ass, also, gkc
>bravely defaultAlready played on 3ds and not interesting on replaying, also, gkc
>puyo puyo tetrisshovelware on gkc, the absolute state
>yakuzaoverrated franchise, also gkc
>sonic generationsplayed it long time ago not interested in replaying it, also gkc
>hitmandont care, also gkc
I would buy Raidou, but gkc killed all my interest, I only would buy gkc games if spot them at dirt cheap prices
>>713090769 (OP)Squeal snoys, squeaaal!
>>713093530I have no doubt the Switch 2 will outsell the WiiU, it's a low bar and the Switch 1 audience is much stronger than the Wii audience. I just don't think it'll outsell the Switch 1.
>>713090769 (OP)Nobody is excited to play PS4 ports, not even the dumbest people on the planet(nintendies).
>>713092072Did they ever fix the bullshit loop to get the true ending?
>>713093649I don't think any console will ever beat the switch for multiple generations.
The only reason the PS2 has more sales is because a third of its sales were because it was a DVD player that undercut the cost of DVD players early on and later on Sony started dropping off millions of leftover PS2s in 3rd world shitholes for like $5 a pop to get rid of the parts they had sitting around
>>713096870It's not, he's just reposting it. It's from an even bigger faggot, Chris Dring, well-known snoygger.
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>>713090769 (OP)>don't put the game on the cartridge>why aren't people buying?>I wonder why the best selling third party cyberpunk gmmmmmmRETARRRRDS
the only reason to own the switch version of these ports over the pc version is to have it physical, how are they this fucking dumb.
>>713097027As much as I want to believe that, I don't think it's true. Normies are too stupid to know the difference.
I think it's because for Nintendo consoles you get Nintendo games, the others are window dressing.
>>713095916No one takes the Japanese market serious, not even the japanese. Unless its gacha shit but even the japs prefer nonjapanese gacha games
>>713090769 (OP)Nintendo hasn't put out a strong console for 3rd party games since the fucking snes
>>713097532the disclamer is huge on the cover, its like the mark of the jew, I would never touch it.
>>713097601>pure copiumKeep it coming.
the only selling third party games was the only non game key card third party game
>>713097701I don't need to cope we're talking 10k copies sold for 3rd party in the country of Japan. You can sell that much in a small midwest state in the US
>why aren't people rebuying games that have been out for 3-8 years already???
really nigga?
Why would people buy inferior 3rd part switch ports?
Buy it on PC and you get desktop and laptop / steam deck for portable.
Why would anyone bother buying physical on the Switch? (Either one.)
Changing carts is a pain in the ass.
>>713091306What's the difference between buying digital on switch or steam? It's not like square ever do price drops anyway.
>>713097601The only one is Fate.
But all of asia at this point sold their souls to gatcha
>>713097667Anon most parents I talk to don't even know ESRB ratings or what they mean, let alone read anything else about them.
>>713098302>Changing carts is a pain in the ass.It really isn't?
>>713090769 (OP)?
Most games available on PS5 are available on Xbox. And nearly all games shown in the last State of Play will come out on Xbox.
Reality of the situation is that porting games is easier than ever and it makes no sense to miss out on potential revenue. Even if games sell less on platform B than they do on A it doesn't justify skipping platform B.
As far as Switch support is concerned: Switch has more games on it than PS4, PS5, Xbox One or Xbox Series. Switch 2 will most likely get lots of games, especially indies and ports of PS4 era titles. Now as far as current-gen games are concerned, it will vary on a case by case basis. Reality of the situation is that certain games that wereade for PS5 might not be able to run on Switch 2 due to CPU limitations.
>>713090769 (OP)rise the price by 15%, get 15% less sales. act surprised that people didnt actually got 15% spare income to give you. shocking.
>It's another "Browns/Eric trying to instigate console war shitposting" episode
>>713098720>Even if games sell less on platform B than they do on A it doesn't justify skipping platform B.I forgot to say that sometimes you can justify skipping platform B (at least temporarily) by getting a bag from company A lol. Timed exclusivity paid for by platform holders is still a thing, somewhat
>>713090769 (OP)Is this going tobe first new AAA 3rd party game on the switch 2? If so I wonder how well it'll sell on the switch 2
Fellow nintenbro's wtf are you doing? We're supposed to show up the poors by buying $80 ports of five year old third party games! Come on guys we need to buy more third party games for the Switch 2 stat.
Despite paying $10 for Yakuza 0 for steam I know playing it on the Switch 2 will just feel right.
> all the download only carts under preform
> the best seller is the one that has all the data on it from the get-go
wow, its almost like the sane non-fanboy people who go for a console do it because they want to keep physical media for offline preservation
crazy huh?
>>713090769 (OP)This has been the case with every Nintendo console for 25 years. Tendies are not normal gamers, they don't consume anything outside Nintendo games and in the rare cases the do it has to be IP that are related or similar to existing Nintendo IP. You have to babify your product before bringing it into the bubble.
This is ontop of all these third party games being old as fuck and everyone who isn't a hardcore tendie already played them on a stronger system.
>>713099116Surely nintendo will change this once they see the backl-
>Snoy nigger still ignoring goy cards and going with his schizo ramblings
Weird he could easily bitch a lot about game key cards but if he wants the switch 2 to fail I guess he doesn't want things to get better.
>>713090769 (OP)>Toddlers don't buy third party titles>Somehow this is news despite this being a thing since the Nintendo 64 in the 1990's.QUELLE SURPRISE! CUE SHOCK! I AM SO SHOCKED!
...Why do you think third parties ignored Nintendo until the Nintendo Urine released and they could shove shitty waggle shovelware onto it?
>>713091109I doubt carts will get people to buy Shitcher 2: Assassins of Tendies carts. The simple fact is: Tendies don't buy anything non-Nintendo. So EA/et. al. should just ignore the system as usual.
>>713091306Who cares if it flops, the developer is dead, they shut down their game studio to focus 100% on middleware tech. I don't want another from whoever made bravely default 2.
>>713092784Yeah now you're getting it.
I think that everybody forgot that the kids who were 5-10 when the original Switch came out are 13-17 now. If they're getting a Switch 2 they almost definitely have a PS5/Xbox Sex at this point.
>>713098429Only an idiot buys digital games on a console. You're just renting it till the hardware manufacturer decides to stop supporting backwards compatibility in a gen or two.
>>713100179most based company in existence
>>713090769 (OP)>NEWSFLASH: people don't want to buy game key cartsWow what a shocker!
Notice how by far the most successful third party is one of the only ones to ship on the cart. All the others flopped because they're game key carts with large mandatory downloads.
>>713099983It's funny Sega is re-releasing Yakuza 0 (now with extended cutscenessโข!) on the system when Yakuza 1-2 HD on the WeeOoo flopped massively.
>>713100591? I still play my digital 3ds games just fine.
>>713092939It's not early at all. Everybody acts like the Nintendo ecosystem is wildly different from Sony and Xbox. Like no, there are like 50 million kids with Switches who only play Mario games, and the rest are teens/adults who like Nintendo games that also have a PS5/Xbox/PC. The myth that there are millions of hardcore Switch fans who only play on their Switch and would love to play Hitman if it wasn't for the fact that there isn't a Switch port is retarded
>>713096239lmao of course not
>>713099983No. People don't want these third parties because they are game key carts. Cyberpunk's been doing very well as it actually contains the full game on the cartridge.
>>713090769 (OP)No one buys Nintendo consoles for third party games, PC exist for that.
>>713091343No but it should have. Itโs just so much more convenient to have both the chance to store/sell physical media and also always have a digital copy that will never expire since Nintendo is still lets you download Wii games from 2006.
>>713090769 (OP)>ports of years old games aren't selling very wellColor me surprised!
>>713090769 (OP)>Resell old 5+ year old games (Yakuza 0 is almost a decade old)>Games are such classics basically everyone has played them already>"That'll be $70">"Why is nobody buying them?"Gee, I fucking wonder why.
>>713100674Are you too stupid to understand the point being made? I still own all the digital pc games I bought prior to the 3ds even existing and they continue to be supported on every new pc I buy, including handhelds like the deck. I don't need to keep my 20 year old pc to play half-life 2.
You have to pray your 3ds doesn't die and when it does you have to pray Nintendo doesn't shut down the servers that allow you to redownload your digital games on a backup 3ds that will cost 7x the price it launched at.
>>713100839Cyberpunk being the most popular non Nintendo game is not the same as it doing well, it's just doing better than the other games which are selling horribly.
>>713090769 (OP)nobody is going to touch third party games that use game key cards. chances are someone interested in the current third party games has a pc or playstation they can play those same games on and not have to deal with a format that combines the worst of physical and digital into one
>>713101264it's selling faster than TW3 port for switch 1 performed
>>713101320I love the narrative that Playstation or Xbox are somehow different.
The games are also not on the disc for those platforms.
>>713097903Why are zoomers so disengenic
>>713100179Yup. Why would anyone care about what people on the internet says?
Only an insane retard would ever do that.
>>713101396>it's selling faster than TW3 port for switch 1 performedWow, it's selling faster than a game that sold like shit on the Shitch.
>>713101396That doesn't tell me anything because tw3 had a disgusting switch port and I have no idea how that sold.
>>713101632probably because no one is buying the game card keys
it's simple
if you have the cash to splash on a switch 2, you probably already have machinery that can play these rereleases
>>713101186Ok? All digital switch games are tied to your Nintendo account and Nintendo themselves want that to be the case going forward. I still don't see the problem.
>>713101726it sold pretty well according to cdprojekt
>>713093534>Capcom fighters suck assThis opinion is crazy. Just say you don't like fighters in general.
>>713101478Most of the games there are on the disc for PS4/PS5 copies. Cyberpunk does require an online download, and Hitman needs the day one patches to not have a significantly worse experience. Everything else works fine without any kind of internet connection.
>>713101852Lol, Nintendo doesn't decide whether a game is backwards compatible or not, this is a problem even on pc but there you have fans and companies whose entire business model is selling and maintaining old games. On a console you are first beholden to the hardware manufacturer putting in hardware backwards compatibility and if they don't they have to make a software solution that causes issues which then have to be fixed by the developers, this is already happening on switch 2 and that is assuming Nintendo even gives a shit about making a software solution which I highly doubt they will after a gen or two.
Ontop of all this you are stuck playing your old games on the initial settings that were engineered for that outdated piece of hardware where it's often trivial to unlock higher resolutions and frame rates on pc. The only way you could see any equivalence between a license for a single piece of hardware vs a perpetual one that will carry over to every new piece of hardware (likely till you die) is if you're a retarded tendie.
>>713102959Brother I won't read all that. Just say you only have a PC and move on.
>>713103204I own a switch, you don't own a pc though. You're a boring corporate cock sucker and a waste of time so I'll accept the bitch concession you just made.
>>713090769 (OP)It's because they're competing with 1st-party games, which are comparably priced but higher in demand
>>713102043i like fighting games, but im more into SNK and ArcSys/Anime fighters
>>713090769 (OP)Why would anyone buy these downgraded games on a switch when they are like a quarter the price on pc?
>>713092784Because {insert literally any game title here} is perfect for the Switch (2).
For fucking 8 years tendies were portbegging non-stop and saying that literally everything would be better on their shitty little tablet because it was portable.
The dumbfucks either were too poor to afford anything else, despite buying every shitty game Nintendo dropped every month, or they loved buying a game twice just to play it on the city bus on their way to work or school because they couldn't afford a car.
>>713098054>Continuing to copeCOPE.
>>713100674Yes, and then what happens when your 3DS dies?
That's their point, moron: You have no means to backup those purchases compared to Steam. Hell, with Nintendo actively fighting against Piracy they're sealing that fate even harder than generations before.
>no one wants to buy lazy ports of games from 2020
No shit
>>713090769 (OP)I totally hope the capitulation to Western AAA and completely throwing your loyal otaku audience you aimed for during the Switch 1 under the bus was worth it, Furufucker
>>713104446the day steam dies/gets sold off to an even fatter fuck than GabeN is going to be one for the history books. The seethe is going to be hilarious.
>>713090769 (OP)Most people are fully aware that multi-plats on Nintendo systems tend to be the worse due to weak hardware, so they don't buy them unless they're actual Nintendo cultists that don't own anything else. It also doesn't help that they're usually more money and the games aren't even on the carts now.
Xbox on the other hand is purely because of the weak install base, turns out nobody wants to buy consoles if they don't have good exclusives, which is half of the appeal of them.
>>713090769 (OP)OH NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
>>713090769 (OP)[EXCELLENT NEWS!]
>>713090769 (OP)>Multiplat games that already released at least two years ago everywhere elsegee I wonder why aren't they selling well
>>713091615Where is it at now?
>game key cards
and nothing of value was lost
We're in the Nintendo greed cycle again where they make poor decisions and fail
A few million consoles sold is nothing if people will actively check which game cart has a key or not
And we know most devs are also greedy as fuck and will opt for keys
Software sales (which drive a console) will be bad
People will sell their overpriced tablet
The only good thing that comes out of this is that Nintendo will be forced to make good games again
>>713090769 (OP)>(has the game actually on the cart)Don't give me that bullshit by trying to insinuate that this is the reason why it's selling. Cyberpunk 2077 is currently the best selling 3rd party game because it's Cyberpunk 2077. The overwhelming majority of people have no idea what Game Key Cards are or what they even mean. Maybe for an insignificantly small percentage of people the game being all on the cart made a difference, but to even hint at the idea that 3rd party games aren't selling because of the Game Key Cards is a huge stretch.
>>713090964>>713091558>Tendies still say that after the Wii U almost killed the company.Getting cocky again, are we?
>>713105531>Don't give me that bullshit by trying to insinuate that this is the reason why it's selling.It is tho. When fucking Sonic of all things flops on a Nintendo system you know shit is fucked.
>>713105893Its a Nintendo handheld with mainline Pokemon (literally the strongest IP in all of human history) on it, its impossible for it to flop.
>>713091109>Hardcore nintendo fans that buy a new console day one bought the nintendo game>next big nintendo game in a month>they didnt buy ports of older games for full priceSHOCKED
Nobody buys nintendo hardware for third party games. On the switch first party games sold great and indies sold great, its what the user base wants. The people who'd never buy a switch anyway are the guys that are bitching, since the games they want to play are on systems they already own and they will look better on those.
75% of all game sales from devolver are on switch for example and other indies also let know they sold the most on switch by far.
Hell if you'd listen to online discourse, people fucking hate third party AAA, so this is based
>>713091109Irrelevant considering almost everyone moved to digital only, physical is just a bonus and even if they want to respect that since some scummy fucks (bethesda) just put a download code in the box and call it a day.
>>713106247Day one switch 2 owners already own a switch 1, with 150mil sold that's not that weird of an idea.
Sonic had a switch 1 version and they didnt let know there was a switch 2 version. Sonic autist bought the switch 1 game on launch and suddenly there's a switch 2 version with no upgrade path.
I WONDER WHY THAT DIDNT SELL
>>713105893>after the Wii U almost killed the company.Nintendo always sells hardware at a profit unlike Sony and Microsoft the WiiU might have performed poorly but it never aproached anything near killing the company especially whilst the 3DS was still going strong at the time.
>>713106247I don't think the issue is the game key cards at all. I think there is a much better chance most people just bought the game on the Switch 1 they already had and didn't double dip on Switch 2 than it having anything to do with game key cards. Again, regular people who aren't here or crawling around on gaming websites and communities even know what game key cards are. That isn't the problem.
>>713106636Agreed
>>713090769 (OP)>nobody wants to buy cuck cartswho could have guessed?
>>713091227But somehow Switch owners didn't act this way for the Switch 1? Doesn't make sense.
>>713090769 (OP)haha
fuck Gay Keys
Fuck Nintendo
>>713100948>>"That'll be $70">>"Why is nobody buying them?">Gee, I fucking wonder why.worked for Shitch 1, where they sold shit like Bioshock for full pricerino and it was even mostly a downloaderino
>>713107018Assuming you do not have the Switch 1 game yet and then are presented with the option of a Switch 1 version (game on cartridge) and a game key card - which is more expensive on top of that. Which one would you buy?
Anyway, the game key card right now are an issue exactly because of that. Maybe later their sales will improve once more NSW2 only titles come out.
And collectors, especially for collector games, will flat out refuse to buy them anyway. I bet Disgaea and Trails are still at 100% stock. Also, remember the uproar about Sega putting Raidou on a game key card for a 250$ edition of the game?
>>713107018>regular people who aren't here or crawling around on gaming websites and communities even know what game key cards are.It says on the front cover in the most ugly and noticeable way imaginable.
>>713107018>regular peopleThese people will notice it in the worst way possible when they buy a game for their kid physically and the kid goes outside to a friend to play it only to be surprised that he cant' because, download.
>>713108167>I bet Disgaea and Trails are still at 100% stockpublishers going "just fuck my shit up"
>>713090769 (OP)It's launch and nobody is going to buy the entire library
>>713100924nice ESL pedro
>>713108385yes, the pain must be severe.
only then will they learn.
desu
>>713108167>Assuming you do not have the Switch 1 game yet and then are presented with the option of a Switch 1 version (game on cartridge) and a game key card - which is more expensive on top of that. Which one would you buy?If I didn't have a Switch 1 and there's the Switch 2 version right there? I'd buy the Switch 2 version. I see a game I want to buy, I don't already have the game, and it's the version made for console I buy, meaning it's more likely to use the hardware.
>>713091276Why would that help? I just download all my PS5 games, and I'll download all my Switch 2 games.
>>71309184680% of those sales were scalpers trying to get some resells. which is why the actual games for the console aren't moving numbers like anybody estimated. just wait till the 2nd quarter sales for the console come out and it's dropped off an absolute cliff. everyone will be wondering why, but you'll know, because i told you. even if you don't believe it yet.
>>713090769 (OP)I will buy Bravely Default since I missed the original release. I might get Yakuza 0, but I might wait because I have all my other Yakuza games on PS5. But we'll see, I might just get the itch to play it. Maybe when it goes on sale.
>>713108558>I will buy the game and I won't check what the cover says>this is a scam release, what?>no, I will buy it anywaythen the retard goes home, will notice that it's a scam release, will get very upset regarding Nintendo and will stop buying shit like that
>>713103702Some people don't have desktop PCs, or they'd like their games to be portable.
>>713108739>since I missed the original release.Be happy, they released the original on actual physical cart.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=bravely+default+3ds&_sacat=0&_from=R40
>>713108703this kills the Netnendo shill
Netnendo on suicide watch
I genuinely don't understand why people are upset about game key cards.
>>713090769 (OP)>below our lowest estimatessounds a lot like the out of touch suits at square
>bravely default selling like shitgood, that would teach them not to make 3ds games and present them as bravely default 2 on the switch.
>>713108826The circle pad fell apart on my 3DS. I'd rather play the new HD version anyway.
Xbox problems were the lack of exclusives tho, hence why the platform is dying.
Switch 2 is kinda the opposite of that, hence record breaking sales based off one game (exclusive).
Iโve said this before. Third party has no power. Switch 2 will succeed (or fail) based on Nintendo owns output. They kinda have that sorted out already since the original Switch launch.
>>713090769 (OP)How much longer until Playstation starts looking like this? Snoys are getting boring with their denialism.
>>713100670>Yakuza 1-2 HDNot the same game, faggoo.
>>713108975You are lucky.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=3ds+console&_sacat=0&_from=R40
>I rather pay full price for digital rental of woke slopyikes
>>713102043Even DOA6 is better than modern SF
Xbox problems were the lack of exclusives tho, hence why the platform is dying.
Switch 2 is kinda the opposite of that, hence record breaking sales based off one game (exclusive).
>>713105531>The overwhelming majority of people have no idea what Game Key Cards are or what they even mean.Anon it's on the cover
>>713097258
>>713109050>Yakuza>not the same gamecould have fooled me
they all play like exactly the same "game"
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>>713109026That's about right. People buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games. The Switch had some of my favorite video games of all time, and I'm sure Switch 2 will as well.
>>713108975>$5 stick vs $500 console + $60 re-releasehttps://a.aliexpress.com/_mPzeV2b
>>713109148NIS have become such complete and total fuckups it's honestly hard to believe.
>>713109065I already bought a Switch 2 and I'll just play Bravely Default on it.
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>>713109148$100
>gay keyhahahahahaaa
>pay in 4 interest free paymentshahahahahaaa
>PLEASE BUY PPPLLEEEASSEEEhahahaha
>>713108754>Buy game>Put it in cart>Installs the rest the game like games have been doing for forever anyway>Play the gameI understand the issue game key cards have with the majority of people in dedicated game communities who are into collecting, but if digital games and installing/downloading games hasn't been a problem for PlayStation, Xbox, or PC after all the years they've been doing it, it's not going to be a problem for Nintendo either. You're just saying the same things the Xbox and PlayStation faithfuls were saying when this first started showing up in the 360 and PS3 days. I don't like putting it this way, but you are the minority in this. Game key cards are not that big of an issue to the majority of people.
>>713109198The Switch 2 version is $40
>>7131094315 is less than 540
Xbox problems were the lack of exclusives tho, hence why the platform is dying.
Switch 2 is kinda the opposite of that, hence record breaking sales (based off exclusives).
>>713109105People barely read the "E for everyone" ESRB label. They aren't going to stop and read what a game key card is.
>>713109384>installs the rest of the game>ShitchAre you retarded?
>>713109473I'd rather play it on my TV.
>>713109148>still at 100% stockBased, no one's buying this garbage.
>>713109384Shitch 1:
>insert cart>it plays>at worst there is a patch included, but that's a quick download of a few minutesShitch 2:
>insert cart>it doesn't play>it downloads for 3 days3 games later
>sorry, your internal storage is fullI'm pretty sure that even the most retarded normie will notice a difference.
>>713090769 (OP)>all games on disc>minor gamepad features added to ports>nintendoland free>More M rated games for early adoptersWii U launch was actually better
>>713109697>>it downloads for 3 daysIf your internet is that slow then you're too broke for video games.
The only game here justified to buy is bravely default to experience how it was artistically meant to be seen as for the first time, and even then it's a lazy remaster
>>713109697>at worst there is a patch included, but that's a quick download of a few minutesNo, at worst it's a 1GB cartridge and you have to download most of the content from the eshop because the publisher was a greedy fuck.
>>713090769 (OP)How many of those third party games are less than a year old? Because just in that image you've got Hitman WoA, which came out in 2016 but if you want to be generous the third season is still four years old. Bravely Default, Sonic Generations, and Yakuza 0 are all over a decade old.
It was baffling how hyped people got for ports of decade old games people got during the Switch era. It was kind of inevitable that you'd get diminishing hype returns on games which, again, are a fucking decade + old. Majority of people who would have bought them on Switch 2 probably played them on one of the various other platforms they've been available on for (once more) a decade.
>>713109746You cannot have actually posted that image claiming it's better unironically
>>713109845Only if they actually bothered to make that art or rather those assets in a proper resolution to begin with. It's a filtered, washed out mess when you see it on a proper TV.
It could have been great, but it's far from it.
>>713109768>no argumentsI accept your concession.
>>713109934that was the very very rare exception and almost never happened.
For the Shitch 2 that is the norm.
>>713109956M8 I'm playing it on a 65" 4k oled, the city, town, and instanced backgrounds are gorgeous
The dungeons look washed out and shit, as well as many npc models, but a ton of the areas look fantastic
>>713091109It kills a potential Lite but yes, a dock that installs games off a CD onto the Switch 2 would have probably been better because at least they wouldn't need to make games $80 to cover the cartridge cost. It'd also need more than 256gb of storage then though.
>>713109948>Darksiders>Mass Effect>Ass 3 >Zombie U>Ninja Gaiden >Batman>Call of DutyVs.
>Yakuza >CyberpunkYou had a bigger variety of games on Wii U, and were arguably better quality. The lack of a COD port on Switch is inexcusable.
>>713109934How much does Nintendo charge for their carts? Especially compared to blu-rays and digital?
>>713110145To me it looks washed out, I have the same setup expect only 55".
Niggas be acting like downloadable games are such a huge scandal
>>713110473The only reason people tolerate Steam games is because they're 2 dollars
>>713110473When the console only has 256GB and storage expansions are expensive? Yes, yes it is.
>>713110220>darksiders Awesome
>ME3>AC3Dogshit
>Zombi UMediocre
>NG3Actually semi good and fixed the game
>Batman>BO2Ran like shit on Wii U
Vs
>Cyberpunk >Yakuza >Bravely Default >HitmanAll good and run well
There's also Rune Factory as far as an actual console exclusive, and for multiplays theres ff7R, no mans sky, and. Deltarune. Plus unlike the Wii U, the Switch 2 actually has major upgrades for a shit ton of Switch 1 games, like both Zelda games, Splatoon 3, Pokรฉmon S/V, Bayonetta 3 etc. Wii U just played Wii games at 480p and whatever framerate they originally ran at
>>713110606I mean I wish my PS5 had more storage space, but deleting one game to make room for another isn't that big a deal.
>port a game everyone played already to an underpowered system
>charge more than the normal price of a new game for it
>your cartridge isn't even a real cartridge
>"What the fuck why aren't these entitled manbabies buying it"
10% wasn't enough
>>713110685>>Zombi U>Mediocreno, best game Ubisoft released in the last 20 years
>Batman>ran badlynope, Arkham Origins Wii U was the best version out there, least buggy
>>713110685>All goodnot physical == no buy
>>713110781I had a launch Wii U and coped like crazy but ZombiU was extremely mid
>arkham originsYou posted arkham city, which had major framerate issues on wii u
>>713109768>just buy an xbox360!
>>713110909City on Wii U had the most content
>>713111012And it ran like shit
>>713111060Just like Yakuza?
>>713091109Or release a docked mode only switch 2 that uses discs instead of carts, problem solved, handheld mode cucks get digital and game key cards
>>713110909>he was filtered by actual survival horrorcope
>you postedI didn't, I correct your dumb ass.
City had extra features, which also made it the superior release.
the only actual problem was a bug with the DLC on replays, but they replaced discs. Yes, didn't push out a patch, but replaced discs, at it should be
>Shitty rpg for fags
>Mass Effect / Cyberpunk
>Shitty open world game
>Assasins creed 3 / Yakuza
>Low budget 3DS port
>Scribblenauts/ Bravely Default
> Stealth game for journalists
>Batman/Hitman
Identical launch
>>713090769 (OP)On top of the MK bundle I bought Cyberpunk, SF6 and Bravely Default. But itโs not like Iโm a shareholder so not my problem I guess
>>713111438Okay so Yakuza and Hitman on switch 2 are the superior releases then
>>713090769 (OP)Xbox wasn't skipped by 3rd party developers. What are you on about?
Which publisher, exactly, is whining?
>>713109148Even if they dump stock I wouldn't pay more than $10 and even then I feel like a retard for a Game Key Card.
>>713091109>This is the fucking Nintendo 64 all over again.This, but I don't think there's a problem with the carts themselves, just what Nintendo is charging for them. The switch's success has made them cocky, there's no way they're still selling cartidges at a loss to get 3rd party developers in their ecosystem. Rather, they must think developers are so desperate to join to switch ecosystem that they'll pay whatever premium is necessary for it.
Have you seen their financials? Their profit margins are fucking massive now, they're making a fortune. Companies used to compete for market share by selling consoles for cheap (especially after launch) trying to get people in their ecosystem and compensating with software sales, but Nintendo stopped doing that once Iwata died and a literal banker took over. Now they earn a hefty profit on everything, and never lower prices even 5 years later when they can produce the same units for half the cost. After the Switch 1's success, I don't doubt Nintendo is trying to fleece developers too.
>>713111736False, the Shitch 2 doesn't have any new ways to play like AR. and there is no new exclusive content either.
>>713111802Its absolutely fucking is. Shit like Black Myth Wukong, nier and Stellar Blade are doing 2 year delays between release and Xbox ports. Its only a matter of time when they stop bothering all together.
>>713111985Mouse controls, eyetoy mini games.
>>713111990NTA but who even buys an Xbox these days? What incentive do they even have to bother with one?
>>713112072>PC has no mousenice one
>>713111943When did Nintendo sell consoles at a loss? When they fucked up with the 3DS and had to lower the price? Aren't they always selling for profit since they don't have anything else to fall back on?
>>713109528>>713109105When people start running out of space on their Switches 2 I think it's going to be very clear "why" that is. 50GB sized games being installed on a base Switch 2 would eat the 256GB right away. I'm someone who only buys physical and I have 100GB on my Switch 2 without the expensive MicroSD Express just from my Switch 1 collection transfers (patches, DLC to physical games).
Let's run an example since we have retards here. Normalfag buys a Switch 2 without a MicroSD Express and has these games
-Fortnite 36gb
-Mario Kart World 24gb
-FF7 Remake 100GB (yes, I'm not shitting you on Steam/PS4/PS5)
We're at 150GB with just 3 games. And if they transferred Switch 1 games, how high would that be before they're forced to buy those 50+ MicroSD Express cards? Talk about consumer ignorance all you want, but those GameKeyCards and digital size games are going to wreck havoc on the poor base Switch 2 storage space. And unlike regular MicroSDs, these are expensive upgrades.
>>713112090Sunk cost into game library/friends. Backwards compatibility all the way to OG xbox even though emulation is better and supports all games instead of 40%.
>>713112154No PC game uses dual mouse controls, correct.
>>713112090GTA6 nerds who don't want to pay for a PS5 Pro.
>>713112413>gay mouselolol
>>713091109They can't use discs because of the form factor of the Switch and Switch 2. That kind of design is either for their expensive flash cartridges or for downloading games digitally.
>>713112413stupid gimmick vs actual NEW gameplay ADDED to Arkham City + Origins
cope
plus no physical release == doesn't count
You would get a point if it was fully on cart AND the stupid always online DRM was removed, but it won't, therefore it will be a worse experience on Shitch 2, because you need 24/7 internet to actually play it.
And it's a checkbox "game" on top of that.
>>713098302For multiplayer games, maybe, you don't mean to tell me you cycle through several single player games every day, do you?
>>713111990Black myth and stellar blade are because sony and square enix has acknowledged they were being retards. Also game science is some random who developer in china. You act like EA or someone notable is skipping xbox when it's just random chinks and japanese publishers that sell 10k copies of games.
>>713109384>the rest the gameThe entire game, via internet as opposed to from disc/cart.
>>7131099653 day download isnโt an argument, its just a fucking lie.
I want to at least partly agree with you but youโre just acting like a moron
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>i-it's because they're all old ports!
Wasn't Rune Factory brand new?
>>713112554Nice goalpost move
>>713112306I've ran out of space on my PS5 and had to delete games multiple times and that has about 800gb. 50-100gb games are the norm, the recent Nioh 3 alpha was 34gb. 256gb of space in the modern day is honestly unacceptable. I don't even use my PS5 much, I only buy timed exclusives on it and 800gb is still fuck all.
>>713113289And it sold pretty decently, but ultimately its because they're key cards, them being old is only a small part of the problem.
>>713091846Evidentially they didnโt buy the gamekey card games.
>>713113126>Random chinks >10k salesLike it or not Chinks are the majority playerbase nowadays. Wukong made 30 million sales and Stellar Blade more than doubled the player count of Sony's most popular PC port. The fact that they are rejecting xbox is pretty damning for them.
>>713111802Xbox has the least amount of third party games because it sells like shit, has the worst most restrictive store policies, is hard to work on. Xbox is more dead than PlayStation.
>>713113347>hurr it has 2 mice, for that extra totally retarded "gameplay">that's newno
and you will get new mouse drifting and buy new controllers, like a cuck
a proper Nintendo would have simply added USB mouse support.
>>713090769 (OP)>own BD>own multiple Tetris/Puyo>own all yakuza>own slime fighter 6>donโt care about the other garbagewoooow
>>713113289It's 10 dollars more expensive for no reason.
>>713113640>where's the new gameplay >here's a new way to play games>WAIT NOT LIKE THATThere's never been a PC game that plays like DragXDrive. Closest is HOSAS mech games and even then it's not that similar. The only way you're getting more unique than that is with a new controller and that will get shit on hard unless it's a fitness device like the ringcon.
>>713114025>using a mice is newMaybe if you live in a bubble. Been doing that for decades on PC. Also
>unironically shilling for fucking crippleball
>>713114025>hurr instead of accurate keyboard buttons, let's use a retarded 2nd mouse>this is "new" gameplayno
>FagXDriveyikes
I hope you will have fun with your wheelchair DEI "game"
>>713113610>is hard to work onSame architecture as PC and Playstation, fuckhead.
>>713114210>using two mice is new Yes
Why do they think ports of 5 year old games would sell.
>>713109148make a collectors edition but decide to use a keycard, hmm yes
>>713114253Give me an example of "new" gameplay then. Its looks as innovative as Arms using motion or splatoon using gyro.
>>713114324An Xbox Series X and an Xbox Series S dev kit, faggot
This is a repeat of the Wii U launch, kek. And it'll scare off third parties for another decade.
>>713114431Pikmin1+2 on Wii
Metroid Prime 1+2 on Wii
Arkham City + Origins on Wii U
ZombiU on Wii U
Super Mario 3D Land on 3DS
Super Mario 3D World on Wii U
etc.
>>713114415To be fair that one game with the weird alien also had a collector's edition and also had a physical scam release included, where only the tutorial was on cart
thankfully the PS4 got a full release on disc.
>>713090769 (OP)this is prolly people not understanding or not wanting game key cards. I get it.
>>713090769 (OP)>all game key cardslol
>>713114624All of those use existing technology. So if two mice is derivative then so are those games.
>>713114461Same thing, lying third world console war faggot.
local GS had like 2 in stock when i did a walk-in after work and picked one up.
Do any of the Xenoblade games get performance upgrades?
>>713114762>existing technology of the Wii, the 3DS and the Wii Uare you now pretending to be retarded?
>no, no, PCs had 3D screensno, they don't
>but PCs had Wiimotesno, they don't
>but PCs had dual screen gaming with lagless wireless touchscreensno, they don't
>>713114762>two mice>hahahayou are retarded.
btw. PCs support 2 mice. But controlling a game like that is fucking stupid.
>100 keysvs
>2 or 3 buttonsre
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>>713106247Also Hogwarts Legacy, I don't know which sold better overall but Hogwarts Legacy came out AFTER cyberpunk, and it's more normalfag friendly, if being a game key card wasn't an issue Hogwarts Legacy would be selling as well if not better than Cyberpunk
>>7131149283D gaming existed since the NES. Dual screen was on DS. Six axis predated the Wii. If the existence of one mouse games makes dual mouse derivative then none of the listed games are original.
>>713115047>Supports two mice Name a game that actually integrates two mice into gameplay
>>713115356https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p53jhaxCrg&t=483s
cope
(this is also retarded)
>>713115260>the NES had a 3D glass free display>Six axis is a Wiimotelmao
even Nintendo is unable to reproduce the accuracy of the Wiimote, retard
>>713115457That's a VR game, all of which are based on PSmove/Wiimote + Nunchuck
>>713115559>it...it doesn't counthttps://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=2813
Amiga Lemmings
cope, you fucking retard
>>713115541>Virtual console is glasses freeYes
>Sony implemented Gyro firstCorrect
>>713115615That doesn't play like Drag x Drive
>>713115559>based on Wiimote+NunchuckNunchuck isn't a mouse, retard
>but Hitman is totally original and not based on mouse+keyboardare you retarded?
btw. you can map keyboard buttons to mouse too, but that's retarded, and no one in their right mind would want to play like that.
>>713115729you asked for games with 2 mice
now you change goalposts, faggot
>DiversityDrivefuck your wheelchair shit
>>713115782>Nunchuk isnt a mouseVR controller is a Wiimote
>>713115865>a controller isnt innovative because I don't like the politics of the character designsAt least we know why you're actually butthurt
>>713110359Can't remember but it's something like 14 to 16 dollars each
>>713091519Now compare it to the Switch 1
>>713115120Everyone who owns a S1 already owns Hogwarts
>>713115996>a controller is innovative, because I have 2 controllers of the same type, instead of just one>and I revert 100 buttons to 3Brilliant shilling
I hope Nintendo pays well.
>>713116084You have yet to show a game that uses dual mouse in the same way the wheelchair game does. Like it or not it's new gameplay.
>>71309151940k for all games on console that sold 1,000,000 units in the region is fucking terrible.
>>713116013Sorry it's actually modified PSmove controllers.
>>713116163>Hitman is disabled now and is in a wheelchairFuck your woke shit
but btw. if that was real and Hitman was in wheelchair on the Shtich 2, that actually would be original and new. Of course that's not the case.
If you actually played on Wii U, you would know that there was actual new gameplay added to the game.
>>713116262also wrong, idiot
you have no idea how Wiimotes even work, dumb fuck.
Resident Evil 5 used the Move-dildo controllers and it controlled like shit
meanwhile RE4 on Wii controlled perfectly.
Figure out why
>>713091519A bad launch lineup with higher prices is my guess
>>713114904please respond
Maybe they should try releasing new games, not old games that are already available on other systems.
>>713114884That's why they aren't getting any games, faggot. It's more pathetic being an Xbot then it is being a Snoy.
>>713116469Gyro is different from an IR sensor, wiimote plus uses both. VR controllers still use Move design philosophy.
>>713116469>Figure out whyBecause it used the GameCube controller, r tard.
>>713110698Most of the studios pulling the key card bullshit are japanese studios, and those had hardly if any layoffs
>>713116649>wiimote plus uses both>VR controllersare faggot
>Movewas faggot and copycat of the Wiimote, but badly done
>>713091306Fuck pc gaming
>>713116676No, Gamecube controller was optional.
RE4 Wii edition controls well because of the Wiimote.
If the Wiimote and the gay Snoy Dildo controller were the same, RE4 should control as well as RE5 on the Piss3, but that's not the case.
>>713116723Both uses Dual mice in different shells
>>713090769 (OP)Might as well, with how censor-happy ninty has been for the last several years, ramped up in the last few especially.
>>713116637They're both getting the same games. Why do you lie so much?
>>713116927you are gay
and it's inaccurate as fuck.
>>713117065Mice are the most accurate gaming peripheral ever created
>>713098302As opposed to changing discs? Yeah, give the cart.
>>713116965Mother fucker, you know how many games have the Steam, Switch, and PS logo over the Xbox logo, many. Xbox is just a AAA slop machine. The people that defend it are retarded brand shills.
>>713113217isps have a grip on everyons balls, and in rural areas 10mbs or less is 60 or 70 a month. this argument means nothing. i had blue one for the longest time pre 2017 and it took at most 2 days to download a big game at that time.
>>713113640Pretty sure the switch 2 has USB mouse support
>>713117495Pretty sure that the shitch 2 requires you to use $90 shitcons, instead of connecting 2 proper mices for $5.
Playstation however supports USB mice, as it should be.
>>713090769 (OP)Switch 2 will become the new WII U when third party devs bail out because no one buys they Key card scams.
Its all Nintendos fault for only having 1 64GB card for the Switch 2.
They should have had 3 types of options like switch 1.
>>713117287>no argument>adhom attack>unrelated statementAnd that, class, is how you break a shill.
>>713117184Sure, once you break the sensitivity down to the autistic level.
>>713117542Kinect is better
>>713116057Anyone that bought nogwarts legacy on switch 1 is a fucking retard, that port is borderline unplayable dogshit
>>713109148im just so turned off that majoirty of third party is just game key cards. its shitty.
>>713117692The Wii U had great exclusive games.
The Shitch 2 seems to be getting woke slop only.
>>713117740the only good thing about that was the artbook.
>>713092465>overpriced>>713092585>more expensive$80 today is literally less expensive than $60 back when you grandpas started gaming in the 7th gen.
>>713117839Nintendo, keep telling yourself that.
Good luck with your Shitch.
You will need it.
>>713092072Maybe if it was $19.99
>>713117827Yes. But thirt party left the console because of 2 things. 1 .Their games sold worse on it.
2. Nintendo forced everyone to use the tablet on all the games making them run worse, because the Console was not strong enough to run both at the same time when the game was too demanding.
Don't feel sorry for any of these publishers. There's nothing on those game key cards and 90% of the upgrades so far are just unlocking the framerate. They didn't actually do anything to optimize or improve the game. Sega literally just released Shadow the Hedgehog with an unlocked framerate and called it a day. They could have just made that into a simple patch
Okay, but where's the hard numbers? Chris Dring never posts that. Also the third-party that complained is strongly believed to be Take-Two and their Civ7 port, which flopped everywhere lmao
>>713100179Holy based
>jap company gets backlash >ignores it or writes an apology about how they'll try to do better next time>western company gets backlash>"Here at AAASlop, we employ a diverse group of workers and we support the current thing. It has come to our attention that nazi chuds shitposted about our game, causing it to only have 3 million players instead of the 10+ million sales we are owed by the market. Don't be a chud, buy our game and stand strong with current thing!"
>>713117771>I must defend my dying brand
>I cannot afford thing so I must hate on thing
Ayy lmao
>>713118343>Nintendo forced everyone to use the tabletfalse
they also didn't force any dev to use the Wiimote.
>because the Console was not strong enough to run bothBS
>>713118489this is why you have game key cards lol
>>713096625The Switch got a massive boost from Covid. If you look at sales charts, it had kind of flat lined two years after the console released. There was a huge boom in video game collecting, and every other hobby, during Covid, and that was what reignited the console sales. The Switch 2 will probably start to stagnate in three or so years.
>>713098302Nintendo first party games will hold their value forever. No one gives a shit about PC games, but you'll always be able to resale a physical Nintendo game
NINTENDO SWITCHY 2 WINS AGAIN
>>713098302you will end up doing the same changing the micro sd genius, the switch was one of the few consoles where you needed to download something, more than an update, to play, because the full game was inside the cartridge, especially with first-party games, if the game doesn't come there, it doesn't make much sense to buy the physical catridge and it's better to stay with the digital download
the big three are trying so hard to erradicate the physical format
their users don't know that in the long run that will hurt them and they will be buying games at $100 dollars that they won't even own, it's not like with pc, but console companies want you to think that and that it's the same thing as pc gaming
LOOK AT ALL THESE LOSERS IN HERE TRYING TO DEFEND XBOX AND PC GAYMEN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PLAYSTATION AND NINTENDO WINS AGAIN BABY. CHERRY PICKING AND BIASED. I WIN BYE BYE
>>713118836>No one gives a shit about PC gamesanymore
but physical PC games:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/205360358639
Fuck Valve
>>713103420Emulating Switch on your pc is not the same as owning a Switch lmao
>>713117898>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE FACTS AND STATISTICSSorry, I forgot that the right makes arguments purely based on vibes and manosphere propaganda.
>>713090769 (OP)And who will it hurt? 'cause it surely won't be Nintendo.
>>713119146>no, no, you see 3rd parties sell very well uhhh>everyone loves gay keys>EVERYONE!!!!>cries
>>713119239>sell no 3rd party gay keys>no income for Nutendo>3rd parties tell Nutendo to fuck offworse:
>no income for indies either>indies tell Nutendo to fuck offAnd all you get will be woke trash, managed by Treehouse.
It's over.
>>713090769 (OP)Why would anybody want to play 4 year old ports in shittier quality on the shitch 2?
Those who are poverty stricken cannot afford such trivial devices, this is why they browse message board forums to vent being poor and join the vain wagon of hate on the next big thing because they know deep down inside they want it. Imagine waking up and not having a gaming PC, a PS5 Pro, and a Nintendo Switch 2. Such is life.
>>713091109nobody gives a shit about physical, you decrepit boomer
>>713116251That's not for all games, that' for all 3rd party games. Mk8 sold gangbusters.
>>713114904>>713116572They confirmed a few days ago that all the xenoblade games would get upgraded
>>713090769 (OP)Actual Switch 2 owner here. While I would love to believe people are rejecting key cards the reality of the situation is more about the new pricing of Nintendo. By making games like Mario Kart $80 and others $70 the major releases are straight up cannibalizing the sales of the smaller ones. Nintendo platforms were always Nintendo heavy of course but there is a difference between telling the userbase they have to save up for $80 games plus Amiibos + whatever Nintendo makes up. Cyberpunk and such outstanding releases have the same effect.
What outsiders need to understand is that in the current Nintendo landscape - for the average user - Mario Kart World, Bananza and Cyberpunk are absolute priority purchases for the new system. Maybe Guardians of Azuma if you like physicals but you are already saving up for Metroid and Pokemon A-Z. And because these games got very expensive (ok you probably got MKW as a bundle like everyone else) you will think twice of buying anything else for the system. I rather get the Bananza Amiibo than a third party whatever. It is not about keycards or digital. It is about big releases pocketing the surplus money you previously spent on third parties. This is happening elsewhere to various extent. A few big online games take all the money. A few big releases ask for more and more while smaller games suffer.
>>713119482Keep buying gambling microtransaction shopping cards.
>>713119482We are boycotting game key cards which resulted in rock bottom sales, so yes everyone does
>>713120519lmao, keep hallucinating. this is the last gen where there will be anything but digital storefronts
>>713090769 (OP)The selection of third party games kinda sucks so far. Out of whatโs pictured in the OP I would get Yakuza 0 and MAYBE Bravely Default. Everything else looks like spam lol
>>713120408Nothing they say really contradicts anything or what am I saying. A few big releases are starving out everyone else. You can have 40% third party sales but if the majority of it is Cyberpunk then the others can say they barely sold anything.
>>713120686the cannibalization theory is far less plausible if the real numbers on the ground show that 3rd party games aren't actually performing badly to begin with. this is just a couple of retard publishers who thought they could get away with no effort because it's the switch
>>713090769 (OP)Cyberpunk is only selling because shitendo fooled everyone with corpo bulls high tall saying it was just like the ps5 version,,,,kek fucking tards
>>713120310>I rather get the Bananza Amiibo than a third party whatever.Why did you forget about the TotK Amiibos? Those look nicer.
>>713118343>Nintendo forced everyone to use the tabletNot trying to defend the Wii U, but that's not true at all.
NSMBU and Pikmin 3 were early 1st party Wii U games and you could play them fully with the Pro Controller without ever touching the gamepad.
W101 and Bayo were the same and both were 3rd party funded by Nintendo.
Assassins' Creed, COD, Resident Evil, etc. were the same.
Hell, Tropical Freeze had a black screen on the gamepad, they didn't even bother moving the HUD there or at least adding a fixed texture splash screen.