>SWTOR releases in the early-2010's
>Everyone on /v/ hated Jennifer Hepler for her writing contributions
>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing
>Problem is, she wrote all the class stories

Why did Millennials and Gen Xers bitch and moan about her? All the class stories were actually good. She said like one stupid thing about wishing she wanted to skip all gameplay and only focus on story. Was her hate that deserved? And no, someone said they removed her writing that's not true.

Jennier Hepler did nothing wrong.

>>713109827 (OP)
Girl gabe

>>713110017
fpbp

>>713109827 (OP)
>they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3"
no we don't

>>713110226
Yes we do. If you actually just ignore the MMO aspects and just play the class stories everyone has said they were good. and they are.

I always liked TOR. Gave me twi'lek slave.

>>713109827 (OP)
The game is actually really fun, some of the writing isn't really that good. But its one of the better star wars games right now.

I miss making fun of Hamburger Helper and Stampy Woo. End of rine ding dong bannu


__________________

>>713109827 (OP)
Watching people revise history is fun, up until the point you realise they're not doing it intentionally.
They genuinely have such atrophied standards that they see it as better than what they're used to and give it a pass.

>>713110662
>Watching people revise history
No one is revising history. And no one is talking about Ambrov. I've been on here for years and I continuously see people saying SWTOR has a good story (except for the expansions) which funnily enough, isn't the story that Hepler wrote.

>>713110662
There's a general in the multiplayer board >>>/vm/1658729

>>713109827 (OP)
>>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3"
Lmao
Nice headcanon, retard

>>713109827 (OP)
imperial agent and lightside sith warrior are the only good stories, everything else is complete trash.

>>713111939
see >>713111858

>>713109827 (OP)
I praise it as the predecessor of veilguard.

>>713112354
No, it's not as bad as Veilguard. Not at all. There's racism and slavery and not the kind that brings up awareness on the issue but just as a backdrop of the Star Wars universe. No tranny shit either.

>>713112127
See what subhuman
That there is a tor thread full of shiteating retards? Neck yourself

>>713112492
Alright I'm sorry I just wanted to say people still like it and play it. It did have a shitty launch for sure but the game being shit is beyond exaggerated.

>>713112431
Veilguard was the logical conclusion to what people complained about back then. Retoactively defending Hamburger Helper is asking for another veilguard.

>>713112727
>Veilguard was the logical conclusion to what people complained about back then
What was so bad about the writing in SWTOR?

>>713112982
It basically was a steep decline from what people expected of bioware and shown the beginnings of writers inserting their "own vision" while ignoring the base product.
Going "it wasn't that bad yet" is like wondering why people were complaining that the bus was steering towards a pool filled with shit just because the short drive before crashing in it wasn't that bad.

>>713113763
>shown the beginnings of writers inserting their "own vision" while ignoring the base product.
Can you give me examples?
>Going "it wasn't that bad yet" is like wondering why people were complaining that the bus was steering towards a pool filled with shit just because the short drive before crashing in it wasn't that bad.
Stop it with the word salad.

>>713113926
>word salad
Not going to bother since you just told that you not won't/can't read it anyway.

>>713114161
Alright Ted Cruz if you don't know the population of Iran you don't know anything about why the writing in SWTOR is bad. Got it.

>>713109827 (OP)
Because she said something incredibly stupid about "old white men" referring to fucking Tolkien.
I frankly don't have an opinion on her writing, I just think she said something incredibly daft.
I gave Miyazaki (the Ghibli one) the same level of shit when he said stupid shit about LOTR.

>>713114262
DAMN!!!!!

>>713109827 (OP)
DING DONG BANNU
END OF RINE

>>713109827 (OP)
Pure cope and revisionism. The only good storyline at any time SWTOR was relevant was the sith rogue storyline. Everything else regarding story in that game was shit or alright at best.

In retrospect, Hamburger Helper wasn't nearly as bad as the level of writers we are getting today in woke games.

>>713114646
>Pure cope and revisionism.
Then why is there a general? >>>/vm/1658729

>>713114726
>In retrospect, Hamburger Helper wasn't nearly as bad as the level of writers we are getting today in woke games.
Fucking this. So much this. And eveyrone is too ignorant to realize this!!!!

>>713109827 (OP)
DA2 was bad and her interview in it was cringe but she sounded like a pretty unapologetic female gooner which is rare today. That said from what I've seen the only TOR questline she wrote on was the Smuggler which is one of the worst.

>>713111983
JK is decent if cliche. I'd argue SI CAN be ok if you accept that your character isn't very smart I guess.

>>713115386
>That said from what I've seen the only TOR questline she wrote on was the Smuggler
That's not true she wrote all the story classes

>>713115537
You got a sauce? From what I looked up all the class questlines had different main writers, though she may have contributed to the others to some degree.

>>713114726
>>713114953
slippery slope is not always a fallacy

>>713115876
It's not a slippery slope when she didn't write any woke shit in it.

>>713109827 (OP)
someone post the quote

>>713115537
This anon is retarded.
>>713115714
You're right. She did the smuggler story and did random writing sporatically on different planets in SWTOR. Also did the silver quests. She is a senior writer but in some websites they scrubbed her name out of it because of the harassment.

Which makes it even funnier, because if she didn't write the majority of SWTOR writing then she really didn't even fuck it up in the first place. Her only controversy she stirred was some stupid shit but had nothing to do with her writing. And somehow it snowballed in her ruining SWTOR.

>>713115914
From what I remember she was the one gushing about having sex with Merrill and Isabella, so she came across like an unapologetic gooner which is pretty rare for women today.

>>713109827 (OP)
>they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3"
When the fuck did this happen? God I hate this board why do I keep coming back after so long

>>713109827 (OP)
she was goofy and fat and female
she honestly didn't deserve all the hate, just some of it
she was a canary in the coalmine in regards to Bioware though

>>713116485
Still not woke shit

Did Hepler do anything after TOR?

>>713116692
Well that was my point so yes.

>>713116769
Last game she worked on was Inquisition apparently.

>>713116906
>Well that was my point so yes.
Not really. I don't think she was trying to make a lesbian statement

>>713109827 (OP)
Proof?

>>713116958
>>>/vm/1658729

>>713116946
Bruh I was just using that to support that she likely wasn't involved in any sort of 'woke' shit. You're arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

>>713109827 (OP)
da2 released and was shit, people were looking for a target to vent their frustration at and a dumb looking fat woman is an easy go to for when you're a teenager/college kid. the reality is that hamburger helper did nothing wrong but bitter autists will never admit that because that would be admitting that all the time they spent on a chinese cartoon forum 14 years ago was a waste of time and the existential crisis that would cause is too much to handle.

>>713117147
No my apologize I misread.

>woman
>woman talking about sex
Mainly it was antagonism to DA2 generally and misogyny. Jennifer Helper is emblematic of EA corporate interference somehow, ignore her prior contributions

>>713117607
Hello???

>>713109827 (OP)
>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3"
Literally no one has ever said that. The writing drove off a cliff as soon as they ditched class-specific storylines

>>713109827 (OP)
>Was her hate that deserved?
Yes, fat "people" deserve all the hate and mockery

>>713120347
What's it like being a fucking psychopath?

>>713109827 (OP)
I just played video games mostly, SWTOR was always good but tortanic invaders are addicted to drama

>>713120451
>SWTOR was always good but tortanic invaders are addicted to drama
That about sums it up. I will always agree what Hepler said in past interviews is retarded. But it spiraled out of control and ultimately lost the sauce.

>>713109827 (OP)
What sort of niggartarded revisionism is this? Hamburger helper didn't write any of them.

>>713120371
Fatty got triggered lol
Go eat some cake lardass

>>713120802
How about show some compassion? Sick fuck.

>>713120552
She was one of the 3 writers, yes

>>713109827 (OP)
>all class stories have good writing
keksimus
only the imperial agent was universally acclaimed as "good" and that "good" is set against the standard of MMO stories of the time (like WoW)
and even then much of what made it good was the novelty of a cloak and dagger story without involving the Jedi/Sith and Force shit. Its what make people like Mandalorian/Andor nowadays, sometimes you just dont want to deal with the midwit pseudo-religion of Light Side/Dark Side that Lucas perpetrated
and: news flash, much of what made people like certain routes over the other was more on the companions, and its exactly what made Baldur's Gate 3 so prominent: sex fucking sells. Give the player the pretense of a relationship with a fictional character and they will slurp it up, no matter how good or bad the rest of the game is
I rest my case so dont bother replying.
You made a shit thread, kys

I don't reply to fags, sorry.

>>713110496
>Hamburger Helper
Kek, I remember that. Where did those 15 years go?

hamburger helper made this thread
i've had this favorited since it came out
https://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/

>>713114838
because it's the star wars mmo, that's it.

>>713109827 (OP)
>>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing
Citation needed faggot

>>713109827 (OP)
>company makes something shitty
>people agree it's shit
>years later, retards and younger folk show up and say the shitty thing is good
a tale as old as time

>>713109827 (OP)
>Ummm you said X thing but if I invent a scenario completely separated from reality in my head where you said Y afterwards then that contradicts the X thing you said earlier, why would you do this thing I literally just made up?
Seek help.

>>713121372
How about you show me where you hide the forks?

>>713122612
There's an active general

Things got so much worse after her that she is a genius writer in comparison

if this game sucks that bad why isn't it dead? it has 10x more than star trek online

>>713109827 (OP)
What happened is that /v/ was flooded with r*ddit faggots with low standards. We tried to tell them to go away by saying things like "Shut the fuck up faggot" or "Go back to r*ddit" but they thought it was some kind of funny joke like "haha 4chan you're so wacky" when in reality I just thought they were faggots and that they should go back to r*ddit. Fast forward to now and r*ddit faggots make up most of board excluding bots, shills and illiterate indians.

>>713123378
That means people play it not that i's hailed as anything, retard.

>>713109827 (OP)
>>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing
Who are you quoting?

>>713124009
Go read it yourself retard. Look up past posts, do a search everyone says it.

>>713124408
Why? I don't play it and I didn't even like 2. But I can recognize a general doesnt mean universal praise after all WoW and FFXIV generals exist.

>completely ruin exile and revan
>true successor
Yeah nah fuck off

It sucks because the only thing that sucked about it was the launch. And Hepler's controversy also amplified it and made the impression it's a shit game. Now, it's fantastic, I consider it a Kotor 3 if you exclusively play the class stories. This game was made pre-Disney, before Disney turned it into shit. Back then, no one liked it. But now that I think about it.. It's really not that bad. Disney 10x has far worse Star Wars stories than SWTOR. Deadass.

>>713109827 (OP)
>hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing

>>713124740
>>713124640
Why does it have "very positive" reviews on Steam?

>>713124815
Reddit likes it evidently.

>>713124875
>Show evidence that people like it
>Erm, a-aktually it's Reddit
Absolute BASED retard

>>713124921
>redditors aren't human
uh... based?

>>713124815
Revisionistbros, how do we respond?

>>713124921
>/v/ used to hate this game but now they praise it
>never happened
>but these other people, who probably always liked it, like it gottem

>>713124921
>OP talks about /v/
>I talk about reddit
>room temp nigger retard can't comprehend two lines of text
Sad!

>>713109827 (OP)
This was considered comically fat just 15 years ago

Probably normal now

>>713124815
How do you make a counter argument to this? People are accusing OP of being a "revisionist" so it does seem like people like this game. You should really give this game a shot. It's better than most nu-Star Wars sloppa.

Who? All I see is the spokesperson for Hamburger Helper

>>713109827 (OP)
100% everything after launch was done by a different team. I bought 3 physical copies on release.

>>713109827 (OP)
Whoever wrote the Imperial Agent's storyline has to be a former fed, it's insanely good.

>>713125729
>it's insanely good.
it's ok at best, stop exaggerating

>>713109827 (OP)
I liked her writing in Dragon Age: Origins (I'm pretty sure she did the underground part with the dwarves). It's at parts silly with the politicking, and then you go really deep underground and you have these women warped into Darkspawn brood-mothers.

go to bed helper.

>>713125495
I got collector's edition

>>713109827 (OP)
Don't be a goddam nerf herder OP. Helper is terrible at anything involving gameplay, by her own admittance.

HOWEVER, she has actual nerd power, and I'd take her on any AAA over the shitheels like the ones who fucked up Veilguard, or AC shadows or dustborn, or Outlaws, or POP, or a dozen other AAA and AAAA pieces of complete shit.

She really belongs in the vn space.

>>713109827 (OP)
>they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3"
I challenge you to find one (read 1) singular fucking post that states this. At the very best anons are praising the sith warrior plotline as kino, but no one, I say NO ONE, would claim that swtor is a worthy successor the Kotor 1 or 2.

>>713127237
>Helper is terrible at anything involving gameplay,
huh she's a writer isn't she?

>>713127296
Keep looking in the SWTOR reviews I believe in you anon! You can do it!

>>713127297
yes, a writer for VIDEO games. The narrative should blend in properly with the gameplay, the interface. The character interaction. See Roberta Williams or Warren Spector for examples of that. Maybe Avelone on a good day vs a bad one.


Her shit is disjointed from gameplay. That's not a complete killer, and it also depends on the game structure, but she's most suited for low or no branching shit like sudo 51.

>>713128025
Have you played a Bioware game before? It plays exactly like it

>>713128115
Consider the bioware games AFTER she left to her era.

>>713110350
Ignore the basic fandation of the game and it's actually good? Wow.

>>713124815
>Release date 2011
>currently 2025
>68k reviews
k
that still isnt KOTOR3 OMGSUPER GAYME!
Why are you such a weird fag?

>>713109827 (OP)
>Only writing credit is co-writing Smuggler, which is the worst fucking class story in the game
What is the point of this thread?

>>713128440
>that still isnt KOTOR3 OMGSUPER GAYME!
You sound like a faggot millennial. Look up the reviews, they hail it as a spiritual successor. Obviously, it's not Kotor 3 but it's the closest thing that we have to one.

>>713128458
>What is the point of this thread?
That Swtor is good. And the story/writing isn't as shit as most people would believe.

>>713128727
There are one or two class stories that can be classified as "surprisingly OK" and Hepler didn't touch either one of them.
2 out of 8 in an MMO that is bad to begin with is pretty shitty.

>>713128925
>Very positive reviews on Steam
I don't know anon. Would I rather listen to the abundance of positive reviews or some random retard on /v/ saying, "it's shit" without really elaborating

Really hard to decide here. Anyone know?

>>713129076
I mean, feel free to tell me how Hepler's work on Smuggler at all measures up to, say, Operative or Warrior. You can manage that much, right?

>>713129280
Whatever fuck face. You're annoying.

>>713129336

>>713123929
>>713123929
>>713123929
This nigga rules

>>713129076
Smuggler is by far the shittiest story in the game, only even managed to force myself through level one and it was torture.
Every other story far exceeds it, even the most robotic zogbot goodygoody playthrough of trooper.

>>713130067
>Smuggler is by far the shittiest story in the game,
It literally plays and sounds like a Han Solo story it's really not that bad.

>>713130067
you got to fuck a sith in that right?

>>713109827 (OP)
If she wrote the Sith Inquisitor story she's pretty based. It was pretty good.
Murder and mayhem await.

>>713130263
>>713130365
Male smugg gets to fuck a lot.
As for playing like Han, I guess it does, but I don't like Han at all. I would have preferred being an actual smuggler rather than a soldier that's allowed to skirt the laws a little.

>>713128458
Is there still a story tier list? I thought Bounty Hunter/light version? were some of the most liked all time. I think the melee sith guy was up there too.

>>713109827 (OP)
I look like this and I eat like that

>>713110350
>ah, master jedi, i heard you were here
>please kill 169 zimbwimbs and collect their AV cables, otherwise the sith will use them to blow up our munitions depot!
>the location? why, the very next area, right next to the 44 gorkis and 27 bumdumps all dropping jumbo bbc vibrostaffs that you'll need to collect for the sith do and use them to steal our farm supplies!
>also my 12 cousins all need your help, there's an unsellable item and some xp in it for you! i'm sure in 500 hours you'll earn enough for an apartment on coruscant where you can display wall arts and such, oh mighty jedi

>no imp trooper class to mirror republic trooper
>no republic spy class to mirror imp agent
>no wholly unique bounty hunter and smuggler classes to pick a side after their tutorial planet
also locking lightsaber types to advance classes was dumb

>/v/ standards have dropped so astronomically low that unironically a drooling retard is defending the story of swtor on /v/ and using a /vg/ general and steam reviews as his proof.
Grim times

>>713109827 (OP)
>Was her hate that deserved?
yes, you fucking retard

>>713110496
>Stampy Woo
END OF RINE

>>713131517
If there is one, I haven't seen it. Majority opinion in the occasional SWTOR thread is that Operative and Light Side Sith Warrior are the only two really worthy of your time, and I would agree. This is with the huge caveat that the game itself is not good and to only bother if you are absolutely fiending for some Star Wars.
Personally I'd rank BH towards the bottom.

>>713113926
>word salad
disingenuous AND pretentious
bad copy, you shouldn't get paid

>>713109827 (OP)
>>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing

SWTOR is dogshit though

>>713114838
>then why is there a general
there's a fucking kenshi general for christ's sakes, you act like that means anything
t. 600hrs in kenshi

>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing
do troons really?

>>713109827 (OP)
People shit on her because she said she didn't like playing games, not because of her writing.
I never understood the hate. She is a writer, not a game designer or programmer so who the fuck cares if she like to play games or not.

>>713109827 (OP)
She's kind of a fujo, but yeah she ain't do shit

>>713132695
>when you convert the CO2 from a white woman's braps into breathable Oxygen

tortanic was years ago
whats up with the shills?

>>713133096
>People shit on her because she said she didn't like playing games, not because of her writing.
But the problem is lots of people got mixed up in the shitty launch and it somehow got lumped with her ruining SWTOR

>>713132835
I'm like 90% sure people liked whatever lightside BH was.I just looked it up and a lot of people say Imperial Agent is top 2. Honestly I thought they were the same thing.

>>713133283
just wait until you find out people like to talk about video games

>>713133464
all i see is one retard trying to convince people that /v/ actually likes the game

>people bitch about Hamburger
>shill GW2 instead
>GW2 got Hamburger that is much worse than Hamburger and destroy the story and lore to shit tier with her fanfic

>>713109827 (OP)
>>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing
This has never happened

>>713133525
>all i see is one retard
But it's not. The only retard is you.

>>713133591
keep telling yourself that lmao

>>713133585
Look at the Steam reviews

>>713109827 (OP)
I unironically have a fetish for women like her.

>>713133429
I don't blame ya. I can imagine normals liking BH a lot these days because the story is more about Mandalorian stuff than actual bounty hunting after the 1st act.

>>713109827 (OP)
Jennifer Hepler did not write them all. She contributed bits and pieces such as certain quest lines. The main contributors / writers to each class story are as follows:

>Smuggler and Jedi Knight
Hall Hood
>Jedi Consular
Joanna Berry
>Trooper
Charles Boyd
>Imperial Agent
Alexander Freed
>Bounty Hunter
Randy Begel
>Sith Inquisitor
Rebecca Harwick
>Sith Warrior
Neil Poliner

OP is, as always, a colossal ass shattering faggot.

sure smells of viral marketers here
what is EA bleeding money and their only resort is to go on /v/?

>>713114161
i despise people like you
you make broad sweeping statements just vague enough to sound legit, but whenever you're asked to elaborate, you are like "nah you're too stupid to understand so its not worht the effort", a lazy and pretentious deflection.
suck on a 12 gauge for me, you waste of oxygen

>>713133585
>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3" and all class stories having good writing
>This has never happened

>>713133865
>Hall Hood
You're right but Hall did not write the smuggler, hepler did.

>>713133868
>viral marketing a near dead game in 2025
no you idiot. they would rather push bigger games than that

>>713133924
You sucked my cock that one time
The sentence above is proof that you can't say it's never happened

>>713134059
you got proven wrong retard. now suck MY COCK

>>713134058
thats what a shill would say

>>713134004
This is a common misconception, and this information can still be found on the SWTOR forums and in various interviews if you search for it. Hepler did contribute to the smuggler story and other quests, but Hall Hood did the majority of the smuggler story, or at least the biggest parts of it. Jennifer Hepler never actually got to take over an entire class story, she only got to do certain quests, NPCs, and a few of the story beats.

>>713133924
>grasping at straws on steam reviews
kekaroo

>>713133856
I played Inquisitor (I only really cared about PVP) and apparently from those lists everyone hates it.

>>713134290
smuggler story was my favorite desu
and i don't remember a single thing from it

>>713134395
Unfairly maligned, I think Inquisitor is a distant 3rd place -- not my favorite but still miles above what's below it.

>>713109827 (OP)
I never played the game, so I can't attest, but back then, she was probably the biggest issue we had with games at the time. Seems so quaint in retrospect compared to all the bullshit going on today in games.

>>713134648
>3 years before GG
It's incredible how much has changed and how much damage they caused.

>>713134648
It wasn't about her, it was about having somebody working for a major dev which plainly said they don't like videogames which is something most people had come to suspect since games started collapsing in quality towards the end of gen 7

>>713134290
>This is a common misconception, and this information can still be found on the SWTOR forums
No, she wrote it. It's on the official blog. https://blog.bioware.com/2012/06/11/interview-with-senior-writer-jennifer-hepler/

>>713134339
It's not when a lot of reviewers are making it to be a Kotor 3. Just look at the upvotes. That's enough proof for you, real shit.

>>713134648
>she was probably the biggest issue we had with games at the time.
It really wasn't. The game itself had a lot of issues, crashes, lags, typical first day MMO shit and people were pissed. But now, I think it's hella good.

>>713134821
>Act 2 and 3 Smuggler
SHE LITERALLY TOOK OVER WHEN THE STORY GOES FROM BAD TO SHIT!
Holy fucking moly man, thank you for showing me this

>>713134891
>upvotes
back to >>leddit shill
what the fuck is up with marketing trying to piss in an ocean of piss?

>>713135164
Not an argument. Upvoted good sir!

>>713134821
balmorra's world questline was decent
i fucking hated alderaan though
can't remember much of tatooine and NS

>>713134891
>muh upvotes
lmao kill yourself

>>713109827 (OP)
I thought her name was Hamburger Helper.

>>713135273
I don't care how much you hate Leddit but I made a good point. It supports my statement that a lot of people call it Kotor 3, hence the upvotes. 1+ upvote to you good sir!!!

>>713109827 (OP)
No she didnt.

The Imperial Agent is the most recognized class story and the guy who wrote it didn't have much to go on as the other classes just copied characterinaction from OG classic characters

>Liked Sith Inquistor line when it launched
>look up who wrote it
>Hall Hood, a literal who
>his credits are Bioware shit starting with TOR
>later Ghost of Sushimom

Huh, at least he's getting better stuff now I guess.

>>713114262
Give me the delegates

>>713109827 (OP)
Swtor has a bad story. At least jedi guardian story. The launch story was so boring. It was always do x good thing like help weak person or forgive bad guy and then the opposite was the dark side choice where it was always comically over the top.

>>713135656
>Sith Warrior writer went on to Mass Effect 3 and Andromeda
Dog wtf happened

>>713135904
might just depend on what quests he wrote

>>713134821
Yeah, and people still act like it was rumor or hearsay when the receipts have been sitting there for over a decade. It’s wild how revisionist some folks get just because time passed. That blog post was ground zero for a lot of the backlash. Like it or not, she became the face of a deeper shift in how Bioware wrote characters and stories around that era.

Yes

I hate that Star Wars pretends forgiveness is so “good.” Imagine a guy just raped your family with a lightsaber, better forgive him for good karma points!!! So fucking stupid, forgiveness used like that is evil.

>>713109827 (OP)
Something she said trigger them for some reasons

>>713122509
>15 years ago

>>713123929
Neo /v/

Can someone post the webm with the sith neck roll already?

>>713109827 (OP)
>Years later, they [HEADCANON]

>>713109827 (OP)
>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3"
Lol. Maybe on Planet Retard.

>>713110662
/v/ermin are always disingenious cunts. Everytime a remake or the likes come up, they do it

>>713109827 (OP)
I think that if she didn't have such a dismissive attitude towards gaming at the time, most people back then would have been okay with her. It was the holier-than-thou aura she gave off that rubbed a lot of gamers back then the wrong way.

>see a star wars thread
>be reminded of pic related every time
Will Star Wars ever recover?

>>713142623
No. Even season 2 of Andor sucked.
But it's fine. Whatever.

>>713128601
look up a game with actual reviews that's in the same vein, like oh say the The Witcher 3, 2015, with 750k reviews and 6k of them recent. Or how about the successor to Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, the one that just came out 2 years ago having over 600K reviews. Actual 3rd entries in their franchises.

>>713142623
i had no idea this guy was some sort of major character until they put him in fortnite

/v/s hate was always misguided. video games don't suck because there are a few women working in the industry

The game IS shit, the fact that the SoR and KotFE/ET expansions were even APPROVED is an insult to the people who enjoyed the original games

Agent and Warrior are still the best stories though
t. Imperial only player

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>>713143408
I don't like the SWTOR players treating the game as if its some gospel for KOTOR3 when all it does is disgrace KOTOR and piggyback off its predecessor's success before becoming just another WoW clone.

I just started a few weeks ago and finished the Sith Inquisitor story and am now playing a Sith Warrior. Inquisitor was OK. I played dark side on that and it was just a fun power fantasy story with a decent-ish story. Nothing really amazing, but for an MMO, it was nice. The Warrior story as a light side has been more interesting so far. It's definitely the most "RPG" MMO story I've played.

I do hate how fucking far apart everything is, though. I wish mounts were faster. The combat is fine if you play MMOs, nothing really to talk about there. It's just WoW.

>>713145357
Oh and the other complaint I have is the re-use of lines that I assume is in all class quests.

"Murder and mayhem await!"

and

"Consider me warned."

>Years later, they hail SWTOR to be a true successor as a "Kotor 3"
eat shit lying retard, literally never happened

She paved the way for many shitty woke karen writers to ruin western gaming

>>713123490
Because it doesn’t suck
It’s the only mmo besides wow where you can find dungeons and pvp/raid or just whatever the fuck
Yeah some of the new writing is fucking bad but it’s got Voice actors and the original stories are pretty good for replay ability. TORTANIC was always a good game with liberal writing