Thread 713116140

>studio is 40 times smaller than an average studio
>design models and draw every texture on windows 98 software
>render it in a “server park” that’s weaker than a chinese smartphone

modern devs: “It’s literally impossible to make a game look like this”

Explain

One is a lazy college graduate, one was a white man trying to make enough money to purchase a wife in the highest inflation since Germany

>>713116140 (OP)
I'm really curious how good a game could look nowadays with pre-rendered backgrounds. Sad noone will ever attempt it.

>>713116140 (OP)
Here's the short answer
Everything they did in old games was faked. All textures are flat, all lighting baked, all physics preprogrammed, all geometry as simple as it can possibly get.
Modern devs have to do it all for real. Take the FF7 remake for example. They had to take a bunch of pre-rendered CGI and jpg backgrounds and turn it into a real 3D game.

>nooooo they did it because they had no choice, full 3d with total freedom of camera is superior!!!!!!
i hate modern devs it's unreal

>>713116140 (OP)
it is impossible when you have no talent

>>713116140 (OP)
>modern devs: “It’s literally impossible to make a game look like this”
The modern dev isn't talking about using pre-rendered jpgs

>>713117116
you do realize the models used for these prerenders would pale in comparison to what is done in realtime nowdays?

>>713116940
>No, we have to lazily paste in models into a scene and let Unity and Unreal 5 default settings render the rest, because otherwise it’s cheating!

>>713116940
>erm normal maps and baked lighting are not possible anymore!

>>713116940
no I want them to go back to faking it I don't mind

No yranny niggers demanding all the actual devs waste time in white guilt meetings

>>713116140 (OP)
Why did you post the remake instead of orignal?

>>713117308
>pale in comparison
No not really
Most re engine games look great

>>713117308
>>713117538
>>713117594
>Bro just use jpgs in your game with free camera and dynamic lighting

>>713116940
>Modern devs have to do it all for real
no they don't

>>713118229
this has nothing to do with what I said nigger >>713117308
, you're making excuse for modern games not being able to do at least as good as models from prerendered that had less polygons and lower textures res than what is done today in real time

I understand a lot of dev hate
But this is retarded
You can't have jpgs in a game with free camera movement and close up 3d environment

>>713118309
Ok

Now add free camera

>>713118476

so don't have free camera movement

>>713118476
why are you obsessed with jpegs you mongoloid?

>>713118416
>Why aren't you doing very specific lighting that only looks good and readable from certain angles in a game where you can freely move the camera

Yeah i wonder why

>>713118670
Because that's what they are.
If you wanna look at pretty things just follow blender artist they make s lot 3d models that look great from certain angles

>>713118637
>Just make an entire different game bro, I'll buy it i swear

>>713118727
>FREELY MOVE FREELY MOVE FREELY MOVE
will you shut the fuck up and kill yourself nigger? There is nothing stopping it from looking good at multiple angle what the fuck are you even on?

>>713118583
I don't care about the camera. A lot of games with free camera movement have shit cameras

Modern devs actually have to make a 3D space visible from every camera angle

They cant just lazily make a jpeg

>>713118637
>so don't have free camera movement
Sales: 15
Sorry tobu rst you bubble gramps but there's more people on the ISS right now than gamers interested in fixed camera games in 2025

>>713117116
>>713118229
>>713118476
>>713118583
>>713118829
insufferable samefag with room temperature IQ. Probably a jeet trying to justify his outsourcing job on unreal engine 5

>>713118907
>nothing stopping it from looking good at multiple angle
There is this thing called composition
And if you have really strong composition with High contrast from one angle it'll look weird from another angle

Maybe download blender and some pre made map models and fiddle around with it

>>713118974
>>713119016
>>713119117
pajeet is sweating hard

>>713119095
You are just wrong
Kys

>>713119183
>I've never done any kind of art in my life but I know more about it than anyone else

>>713119209
>>713119321
>SAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE FIXED CAMERA

>>713119385
you know nothing about rendering or art direction.
Just post actual 3d games with good lighting you stupid faggot

>>713119731
I'd rather a game look good at one angle over looking like shit at every angle

render 96 is proof that a lot of the magic comes from camera manipulation, I'm not saying it doesn't still look cool but it feels a lot closer to any generic modern game with dynamic shadows then you'd think, the effect is pretty muted when you're moving freely.

>>713119731
>>713119859
>SAAAAAR YOU CANNOT HAVE A GOOD LOOKING GAME IT'S IMPOSSIBLE SAAAAAR 90s TECHNOLOGY IS TOO COMPLEX SAAAAR

>>713119858
Then play those games
They still make smaller games with fixed camera angle
Look up isometric and 2d tag on steam

>>713120061
I do, you dumb jeet

>>713116140 (OP)
Crazy how Crapcum went from this to Wilds, absolutely fell off in terms of optimization and innovation.

>>713119995
>No argument just name calling
Just Post good looking 3d games instead

>>713119859
>doesn't understand the difference between real time rendering and rendering out camera angles of a model at extreme settings and taking screenshots of them to serve as level backgrounds
Not OP but you're the retard that doesn't understand that there's no reason we can't still have prerendered backgrounds. You're such a spoonfed vegetable it's beyond your comprehension that a vidya can still be made using older techniques.

>he's already devolved into screaming stale kitboga memes at everyone who disagrees with him
Called it.

Can we use AI to convert RE's prerendered backgrounds into real 3D environments? Are we there yet?

>>713120216
how does being a niggercattle feels like? I always been curious at what goes in the mind of lesser species.

Resident Evil 8?

>>713120117
Then what's your problem?
You fucking retard
>Why don't they make games like this anymore
>They do
>Ik, i play those games

>>713116940
the imposition of limitation was what forced them into greatness

we need to go back to a time where there are no "game engines" that you can just download and start developing a game with. games were better when programmers were forced to have mechanical sympathy with the devices they were developing for. if a game ran poorly in the 90's it was because the devs were bad or were trying to do too much (which most gamers respected). nowadays games run poorly and look and play like shit and people still buy them.

give me an Xbox 720 with a 12-core PowerPC CPU and custom AMD GPU
or a PS6 with a Cell Engine 2 and bespoke RSX GPU
maybe a simple ARM-based console that only plays games, no network stack, no web browser, no media features

our devs are led by retarded managers that no nothing other than to extract wealth from the gamer. it has to stop. return to tradition, get rid of the god damn bloat.

I want a box that hooks up to the TV and a controller and slot to shove the game in. that's it

>not op but [the exact same nonsense op is claiming]
>shifts to posting stale terry davis memes after being called out

>>713120216
do you work for grove street games

>no argument just name calling

>>713120234
What would be the point of that? They serve their purpose as it is

>>713120480
know* nothing

>>713120437
You tell me, jeet. You're sperging out pretty hard in this thread

>>713120480
Yk you can buy and play indie/aa games

>>713120480
>a simple ARM-based console that only plays games, no network stack, no web browser, no media features
Please. I'm so fucking sick of gaming platforms being part time social media. I keep all my shit on invisible so nobody bothers me when I'm playing a fucking video game

>>713120740
>Answer the question why most 3d games don't like that
>Jeet Jeet Jeet Jeet
You are the one who's sperging out

>>713116140 (OP)
Modern “developers” don’t want to learn how this stuff works and they don’t care. They just want to press a button in Unity to make something that’s halfway close to what they originally had in mind and ship broken buggy junk to millions of people.

Especially indie developers. Never seen a sadder group of people who clearly have nothing but disdain for the video game medium. Indie developers fucking despise video games, and just use the medium as an extension of their social media presence, a way to gain clout and farm more people to join their pisscord servers.

>>713120171
>>713120517
>>713120637
>>713120989
>SAAAR ITS IMPOSSIBLE PLEASE SAAAR

>>713121197
>Stil no real argument
You are just a moron

>>713121087
>Dude Devs actually hate making video games
And i thought other guy was the biggest retard in this thread

>>713121315
>post good looking 3d game with the same kind of render as old school prerendered game but realtime
>y- you still have no argument!!!!!

>>713116140 (OP)
Why do indie games take so long to come out? It's not even about AAA's long ass dev cycles anymore, that's mostly due to corporate bullshit, indies can be guilty of that all the same. I look at some of them that have taken over half a decade to develop and all I think is "I know jack shit about game development apart from programming and I could have done that in 3 years".
Is the competency crisis extending to people not being able to do something properly AND in a timely fashion?

>>713116140 (OP)
>have hilariously bad voice acting
>remake it and try to take it seriously
>now just have pathetically bad voice acting

>>713121534
Whole argument was about fixed camera angles

>>713121087
so the guy making this game actually despises old school survival horror? like when he was making it he was constantly scoffing and tsk tsking at the primitive methods he was employing?

>>713121583
most of the indie Devs aren't full time Devs and obviously can't hire people
Also issued like
>No ideas how move on or execute certain thing
>Demotivation
>Scams

>>713121786
>>713120171
>>713120171
>>713120171
>>713120171


CONCESSION ACCEPTED

>>713122108
You should hang yourself

>returns to spamming stale, moldy kitboga memes
>jannies ignore the most obvious gr3 "trolling outside of /b/" case possible by op because le funny engagement metrics go up XD
>post quality continues dwindling

>>713120216
>crying endlessly
>pic crying about board culture, which concern trolls about discussion quality
Yep, that's a tourist.

>>713121752
they didn't take it completely seriously. it was still intentionally wooden and b movie just toned from picking up random nobodies of the street in tokyo to read lines. reasonable decision, trying to fake the latter just would have been obnoxious.

>>713121583
Even AA games in the 90s and 00s were more polished than what we get now.

>>713121752
>cares about voice acting in a game with a meme story
unironically retard

>>713122471
They should have just used the original recordings.

>>713122535
not really.

>>713121916
finding one exception proves the rule
most indie is pure slop

>>713122365
calling a nigger a nigger isn't trolling, but I understand that reality and facts are deeply disturbing to trannies. Also I already accepted your concession.

>>713122416
You are an obnoxious faggot

>>713122536
Imagine playing House of the Dead, and instead of the hilariously over the top dialogue; you get Emma Watson, Kristen Stewart, Sean Bean, and Ming Na Wen trying their best to sound like they're in a spooky situation. It's worse by far.

>>713120480
>maybe a simple ARM-based console that only plays games, no network stack, no web browser, no media features

Anon, I don't think you understand the point of modern electronic devices is data collection. The entertainment part is just to keep you engaged with the device longer so it can collect more data.

Just like television shows were invented to keep your eyes on the Advertisement Box.

>>713122718
it would be amazing

>>713116940
>Modern devs have to do it all for real.
Why?

>>713122625
You're a retarded subhuman who doesn't belong here, who also has no self awareness.
You have to go back.

>>713123005
You are xitter tourist who came here because for some jeet reposter

>>713123243
>n-no u [ESLbabble]
Shocker. Looks like anon was spot on.

>>713116940
you're pretending like devs nowadays aren't offloading all of this work on raytracing

Japanese superiority.

>>713123467
And upscaling.
And frame gen.

>>713123336
>Xitter tourist is seething
Lol

>>713123467
>>713123810
Last time I checked
Smaller games don't use any of that
You can play those

>>713116940
>Modern devs have to do it all for real.
Nope modern engines automate many things and all AAA developers now outsource to malaysian and indian 3D asset farms. Soon AI will do most of it.

I love prerendered backgrounds

>>713116664
I don’t know why Capcom doesn’t even try for something on REmake’s scale with re engine.

why is every single thread on here started by disingenuous faggots and filled with racism? are yall really THAT angry at how shit your life turned out?

>713123840
>ESLbabbler is engaging in shitposting while crying about "shitposts" (posts he doesn't like) and projecting about tourists
A tale as old as time.

>>713124035
I don't think jeets can do art direction or level design

>>713116664
it takes effort

>>713124363
Not profitable enough
Because vast majority of people don't care for fixed camera

>>713124485
can't you just go back to plebbit already?

>>713124797
i use both. unlike you jaded pessimists, i dont have a superiority complex when it comes to the websites i use.

>>713125205
it's not about superiority, it's about the fact that reddit fags like you are insufferable and permanently offended, so I kindly ask you to fuck off to your echo chamber.

>>713125420
>reddit fag
if anything i use 4chan more. im not gonna listen to the words of some basement dwelling NEET who probably smells like cum and cheeto dust. plus its funny that i made a pretty innocuous statement and you immediately went on the offensive. perpetually offended, as per usual with /v/. keep it up, its entertaining me greatly.

>>713125205
eat shit you filthy nigger
you are scum

>he actually admitted to being a redditroon
It was banter earlier ESLbro, but you really DO need to go back.

>>713125623
>n- no u!!!!

>>713125758
pretty funny gif, thanks for contributing to my heckin reaction folder.

>>713125671
aww the /v/tard is upset at me. how cute.

For all that crying about rule 3 you're doing a bangup job. Amazing """discussion""" there.

>>713125760
keep seething. its fun to watch.

>>713120216
>>713122365
wtf is "kitboga"?

>>713126131
youtuber who waste the time of this faggot's fellow scamming jeets on the phone

Who stands to gain from derailing an objectively on-topic and completely harmless thread about the lack of optimization and innovation in modern vidya?

>>713124170
Do you think a prerendered background by a big name like Capcom would look insanely good? Or would they fuck it up because of incompetency

apparently it's impossible op sorry

retards will blame troons and jeets but can't do it themselves KWAB

Well yeah, game dev studios are just like any other tech company and hire troons and thirdies for 1/4 the price they'd pay their native residents.

>>713129436
Can you do it?

>still reddithomo quipping
I don't need to be a mechanic to tell you when a car is totaled, ESLretardbro.

>>713130094
What's the difference between you and a jeet or a troon if you're just as retarded?

The difference is I'm not claiming to be well versed in making and fixing shit in games, nor am I depriving people of positions who actually are qualified.
Anything else, assblasted thirdie?

>>713130571
>depriving people of positions
You know Carmack and Romero just made a game right? They didn't need a corpo to give them a position

>>713116140 (OP)
this looks like nortubel

>>713130571
So you're a retarded troon jeet but you just don't get paid? KWAB

>but whataboutwhataboutwhatabout
Dishonest.
>responding twice
Damn, you're hopping mad.

>>713116140 (OP)
>40 times smaller
What does that mean? A 40th of the size? Multiplied by -40?

>thread about lazy nigger devs
>look inside
>seething brown slinging poopoo
at least he held himself back
not outright shilling for nvidia and fakeframes took a lot of willpower I bet
still gay tho crying about rayciss posts on the fourth channel

>>713124035
>Soon AI
>Soon AI
>Soon AI
>Soon AI
>Soon AI
>Soon AI

>>713116940
Nigga all games are fake

>>713116664
Closest being pre-baked lighting? Devs stopped doing that in favor of raytracing.

its like wanting to watch a movie with a camera you can look around with. the only time you'll see anything interesting are very specific angles and vistas the devs spent lots of time on. just like how it was with pre-rendered backgrounds and baked lighting but you can also view boring shit like a dusty corner I guess? is that good?

>>713116140 (OP)
>weaker than a chinese smartphone
Wait are Chinese smartphones actually weak or is this burger propaganda?

>>713135930
almost all smartphones are made in china

I remember getting a VHS with a trailer for RE1 Remake with a magazine back in the day.

>>713116940
>faked
>you have a process of making baked lighting, normal maps, surfaces, bump maps.. etc
>faked
More like anyone with talent got the fuck out of gaming because all the little turbo cucks started to show up around them. No I don't want to work with some faggot who pretends to get along with the girl boss. No I don't want to have some bullshit meeting about projections that does absolutely nothing but waste my time I could be making the game.
Lost are the actual game devs who would spend 100s of hours overtime loving every minute. Thats gone and buried. Except for indies. AAA are slop because they turned it into a full regulated job where next to no one actually plays the games they make let alone games at all.

>>713116664
i mean, it could look like this, or better.

>>713116968
Say that again

>>713136757
an ad for interior decor?

>>713116140 (OP)
>"Why optimize when brute forcing is easier? Who cares about the results?"

>>713116140 (OP)
Skill issue

>>713116940
Well I wish they'd start faking it again

>>713116140 (OP)
That's all pre-rendered, you're literally just looking at a static picture with the illusion of depth. While you can make a game look amazing with pre-rendering, it comes with the limitation of not being able to change perspective.

>>713116940
Obvious bait

>>713118051
Because it's the superior version, just like RE2R is better

>>713116664
HDRP is basically the modern equivalent.

Easy, OG devs weren't devs at all, all of them had other professions like painters, musicians, etc.. modern devs are, in their best case, some whiteoid who learned to use autocad at very early age OR in its worse case, some indian.

>>713118974
so now they make games that look bad at all camera angles

>>713116664
does this count
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2844850/FANTASIAN_Neo_Dimension/

>>713116140 (OP)
>modern devs: “It’s literally impossible to make a game look like this”
They're not talking about availability of computing power.
They're talking about the fact that art schools shit out a bunch of talentless Marxists who spend 4 years learning how to draw potato-faced Tumblr characters with vitiligo.
The entertainment industry is undergoing a crisis of lack of talent.

>>713116940
You might have a point if games weren't regressing in terms of physics.

>>713136757
>polyester couch and carpet
mmmm microplastics

>>713145230
Actually it’s white guys that are producing this slop. No amount of shit posting can change this fact

>>713116664
Pillars of Eternity did it

>>713116140 (OP)
Because you don't want the older look, you want the higher end version of the older look. The whole "I just want it to look the way it used to" statement always fizzles the minute a dev actually makes something that looks 20+ years old. This is already shown by the fact that you're not posting the original version; the Gamecube didn't output at 1080p, dumbass.

Devs already know this, and they know you're not happy with just having a 3 hour game with a small number of areas that makes this work a lot easier too.

>>713120480
>wanting esoteric hardware
You are the absolute worst kind of pseud.

>>713116940
I'm good with them faking it though. What did we,as players, even gain? Destructable environments?

>>713124657
They can't, and that's why you get abominations like the Moogles and other stuff like the generic PS3 NPCs and bizarrely out of place props in FF7R. That was all outsourced to Lakshya Digital.

>>713145573
it looks even better on gamecube

>>713145530
what part of that post mentions race? take your medication.

>>713145530
>white guys
Trannies, to be extremely specific.

>>713118229
How about you dont change a game with fixed camera angles into generic over the shoulder slop

>>713145238
Older games
>here's a ball rolling around a stage
>here's a light fixture swinging around
>here's some barrels floating in water
>here's a building you can destroy....into basic decorative pieces that just go flying to look nice
Newer games
>here's a fully destructible area where everything you turn to rubble is also a proper, interactable physics object
>knock down a crane so it can slam into and bust open a building
>collapse this house on one side so it becomes a bridge/ramp up
>blow in the roof in order to have it slump in and create cover
>also this is all fully networked online in a fast pace shooter environment

Yeah, sure buddy. Physics are regressing.

>>713146142
>here's a fully destructible area where everything you turn to rubble is also a proper, interactable physics object
>knock down a crane so it can slam into and bust open a building
>collapse this house on one side so it becomes a bridge/ramp up
>blow in the roof in order to have it slump in and create cover
>also this is all fully networked online in a fast pace shooter environment
Name one game

>>713146142
By newer games you mean 2004? lol

>>713146142
What fucking newer games are you describing? The Finals and literally nothing else?

>>713116140 (OP)
Pre rendered was basically doing diorama, it will be beautiful in yhe hand of talented or passionate person

>>713146295
Have you ever played the finals?

>>713145446
bro do you eat food on your carpet?

>>713148139
shit is so scripted

Talented devs are too expensive to have them develop a video game so studios have to hire jeets or fresh graduates or similar lowest common denominator code monkeys. Everyone who knows their shit have moved on to better paying jobs that are unrelated to gaming. The closest thing to a well paying job adjacent to gaming is working at nvidia or AMD RTG.
To have talented devs develop a game you'd have to limit the studio to 30, 50 tops and pay them well. They won't be able to create enough "content" for the modern 50h bloated slop so people will complain the game is too short. Blame modern gamers who prefer filler content because it makes them feel better about their $70 purchase.

>>713148262
>moving the goalpost
I accept your concession.

>>713145131
well it looks like shit, so no, it doesn't count

>>713148262
this is a game you can play right now and literally blow through walls to flank people and level buildings.
the video is showcasing an update they want to do where something like the crane would obliterate a lot of the building it hits rather than just creating gazillions of chunks of debris that get in the way a bunch at the bottom as currently happens in the game

go look up any video of it, not even specifically about destruction, but gameplay in general, blowing the floor out from under people when losing a fight, blowing up buildings to trap people, knocking through walls and shit to get away is all incredibly common.
the gameplay objectives are basically defending an object your opponents need to channel on to take over, so very regularly when you have defenses setup people will just blow the floor out from under it to drop it down if it isn't already at ground level, or blow off the roof to shoot down.
idk why I am defending this game, its been out for fucking years now and its a playable fps everyone knows about.

>>713136873
kek

>>713116140 (OP)
Blame indians

>>713148076
look up polyester shedding.
then think about what your feet are grinding off the most when indoors.

>>713121583
What i find the most baffling is that people still treat indies like they are all made by 1 guy teams, when there are plenty of them that are made by teams the size of which could churn out the same quality of a game in shorter time in the 90s-2000s.

>>713148453
If it was 2005 I'd be hyped right now.

>>713148752
sounds like you didn't think a game like it could exist and are still coping
>>713146295
literally every point you bring up is in the game

I named one
so fuck off

>>713126731
They would fuck it up. Modern jap companies cannot do SOUL anymore, not with that kind of specific thing. I can't even imagine Capcom doing something like that again, not even in a hypothetical, they've quadrupled down on using their MUH REALISM engine to the point where classic beloved characters like Dante and SF characters all have realistic models nowadays and look fucking weird but Capcom loves it anyway since they've been seeking western pandering for decades now.

>>713148824
>sounds like you didn't think a game like it could exist and are still coping
What? destructible environment is nothing new.

>>713148959
>uhhh actually I only was asking if that game existed to see if YOU knew one, I already knew a bunch like that!!
I accept your concession

>>713149130
>uhhh actually I only was asking if
Not me I didn't ask anything and the original post that started this said games were regressing in physics which is true and there are a thousand examples. Your (one) game doesn't change that.

But modern games do look good

Re7
Dead Island 2
Kcd2
Metro exodus
Nu hitman
Death stranding
Ready or not

>>713149291
>regressing in physics.
It's a Damnn shame
Most games have little to no interactivity outside of core gameplay loop

>>713116140 (OP)
Modern devs don't know how to build their tools, anymore. They fags only know how to use what's provided and porrly at that. This is what degree-fagging does to an industry.

>>713116140 (OP)
>I'm Redfield
Who the fuck even is this guy? You reboot the series and then suddenly shove this square-jawed gorilla in my face like I'm supposed to clap because “omg it’s Chris”? Bro, I don’t know who the fuck that is. What, I’m supposed to have played some crusty-ass PS1 games from 1996 that look like they were animated in PowerPoint just to *recognize* this dude?

If you’re rebooting the franchise, reboot the goddamn franchise. Don’t half-ass it by injecting these dusty fossils from 25 years ago like they’re household names. Your nostalgia-bait doesn’t work because new players don’t care, and the old fans? They already hate everything you’re doing. So who exactly is this fanservice for?
Capcom out here trying to please people who already moved on, while alienating everyone else. Incredible.

>>713149291
>name ONE
>uhh actually it has to be more than one
I can name dozens of games that have released in the last few years doing cutting edge shit with physics. you asked for one and got one, even with the specific extra criteria.

>>713149610
Chris appeared in 10 games in the series including 8. 11 if you count one of the mobile games. He's not exactly some random character from the olden days. faggot.

>>713149695
I didn't ask shit from you idiot.

>>713149886
>it wasn't me
>I just responded to the posts that proved me wrong and got upset about them
right

>>713149824
>Not even brushing up to the tip of his point
The new 'Chris' was a bag of excuses for the changes for a character that has been established since RE started having discernable faces. The prime excuses were "We wanted him to be easier to cast for movies (Then they just netflix it anyway) and "He looks more like the original." You know, the one. The roblox/tekken character? "
>What, you don't recognize him on instinct? Fucking weird, you must have only been playing the game since 5"

>>713149886
Sars?

>>713149291
I'm actually the anon who asked you to name one, and you named one, that other guy is some other fucking faggot. Christ you stupid fucking zoomies need to get with how to post on an anonymous imageboard already.

>>713150508
Whoops, meant for you >>713149695

>>713149695
>I can name dozens of games that have released in the last few years doing cutting edge shit with physics.
You could but you won't.

>>713150508
>>713150552
>>713150603
we can see the post times
you don't fool anyone samefagging like this and coping about it.

>>713116664
>I'm really curious how good a game could look nowadays with pre-rendered backgrounds
Photorealism on stills has been possible for about 10 years, it'd look the same as using photographs

>>713150826
I'd post a screenshot proving I'm not >>713150603 but you're just going to spiral into a schizophrenic hallucination that I just removed a (You) with 4chan X or used the inspect element function, or hell, just opened it up in fucking MSpaint.

>>713121087
you are a such a fucking retard

>>713149610
He's the MC of RE5 and surely you're not so much of a zoomer that you can't handle a 7th gen console game.

>>713151035
Oh yeah, RE5. Coop shity rip off from re4, yeah i remember

A lot of devs are stuck up their own ass.
Reminds me when I read a interview with Mikami, who didn't get that some people wanted the old style games back.
It's just ignorance combined with what I like to call "new thing better by default", James Cameron is a good example of this in the world of cinema and how he is absolutely skullfucking his old movies with AI slop upscaling.

>>713151608
A lot of movie remasters have denoise shit that ruins everything.

>>713151648
You forgot the piss filter, which is also a thing with modern remasters.

Is it Arnie or a wax figure at madame tussauds?

>>713151608
reminds me of thief.
they made the scene with diamonds a cold blue to make it look better in the director's cut. but instead of just editing that scene, they just applied a cold blue filter to the whole movie and ruined it. it was director's best film from decades ago too.

>>713149430
https://youtu.be/zxzBMbStY-M?si=63ynfM_HFPAW57Cr
https://youtu.be/MI2i71LjA-0?si=82VpCQxSxDhmrHpv
https://youtu.be/bfP5KcjCqEw?si=gDphekcLqBIQjJTU

>>713151648
>denoise
I love the HDkeks who take a 360p anime, denoise it and upscale it to 4k without filling in details, which makes it look really bad. whats even funnier is that this niche title that they talked about so much that it got a remaster, they go ahead and seed the new botched hd release and stop seeding the only torrent for the older good release. thus killing the legacy of their niche title. sometimes the new release even has entirely new background art cause they needed to make it 16:9 to sell.

>>713146142
here's the first dead rising vs the latest one with less features than the first one

>>713116940
teaching gamedev in unis was a mistake.

>>713151991
unlike the first game, all the women zombies were 4/10 at best. also all the playable characters had really annoying personalities. the game itself was fun but the diablo like looting meant that every fun weapon would die out in 5 minutes or less. the voice acting was what really killed it for me. unbearable.

>Watch some old technicolor movie on my oled, beautiful colors everywhere like something out of a painting
>Turn on nu movie, it's all dull and coated with a piss filter

>>713152174
Pretty much the 1970-90s random autist just happened to stumble into video games because he needed a job was the peak.

>>713152282
>>713151701
>piss filter
sure its true that the colors are samey as they forgot what color theory was. but do you people simply not recognize warm vs cold colors anymore?

>>713152024
Any time I wanna torrent a TV/movie I always have to find one that isn't denoised to shit.

>>713152264
>all the women zombies were 4/10 at best.
nope hills and beach a lot of hotties
also nu hitman also has many hot npcs

>every fun weapon would die out in 5 minutes or less.
only in early game, late game you can fix them easily and use them for rest of the gmae

>>713152483
how easy is it to do coop on steam?

>>713152282
it's tiresome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8EJDIDYNw
this came out in 1976

>>713152556
no idea dwag, i played solo
cuz i have no friends who bought this game

>>713149886
>saints row reboot
>dead island 2
I just feel bad for deep silver

>>713152621
dead island 2 was a solid 7/10 fun game with cool procedural gore

I finished 7, Village, re2-4 remakes, re4 original. And what should i play next? Im afraid .jpg background Re games, is it worth it?

This thread was officially ruined by the retarded low iq pajeet unreal engine crusader.

>>713152829
fag

>>713152829
resident evil within?

>>713152616
>epic game store account needed
no wonder. every time I ran epic's launcher, my computer would lag. this persisted for 3 years before I gave up on their store.

>>713120216
edit the part where DS2fag is fighting DS3fag like this:
>DS3fag is just a chair with a "DS3" sign stuck to it
>behind DS2fag is a crowd of people punching the back of his head while he flails at the DS3 chair

>>713152923
>make a thread on false premise
>get called out
>JEET JEET JEET

>>713116140 (OP)
this image should be posted in every thread with OPs like >>713152198 where it says this is what gamers want or gaming is healing. no bitch tits isnt what gamers want. its just one element in the package. we want pleasing aesthetics, good looking characters, fun gameplay and nice stories. we want ALL OF THEM together. AAA publishers are targeting the audience that doesnt like games and doesnt get any of the things I listed, and so AAA games has nothing I mentioned and instead has content made to grab your attention and get you addicted to the game, not to make you enjoy your time with the game.
gaming is only healing when we get
>pleasing aesthetics
>good looking characters
>fun gameplay
>nice stories
again

>>713153310
i think some AAA games have those things

>>713153236
>false premise
Nothing was false in what op said. No modern dev can make graphics that look as good as RE. Thats why you are the jeet, soulless machination

>>713153418
last one that did was lords of shadow 2.
many AAA games that came after missed one of those elements.
nearly all AAA games in recent years had none of those features.

>>713153505
i listed bunch of game that looking fucking great and impressive
>>713149430
and there's more.

>>713153545
>many AAA games that came after missed one of those elements.
true specially story

>nearly all AAA games in recent years had none of those features.
nah you are being a jaded faggot

>>713116968
Man that background is so beautiful, haven't even played ff8 in maybe a decade or longer and still instantly recognized that was windhill or winhill?Reeve's town.

>>713153779
>>713153779
The most beautiful prerendered visuals on the PS1 must be Legend of Dragoon though, shit's gorgeous especially the volcano areas.

>>713117116
He should tough.

>>713118229
Don't use dynamic lighting and free camera.

>>713119095
holy shit what a perfect example of how fucking cancerous discussion on /v/ is these days, you have someone making genuine points about why something is the way it is on one hand, and on the other, some newfag who read the word "pajeet" for the first time yesterday spending todays sugar rush spamming it in a thread when he couldnt argue the actual point anymore
i guess i forgot it was summer, you need to be range banned for more shitflinging than any indian ever could

>>713116140 (OP)
We can't bake lighting, it's the lost ancient technology of the 90's elders

>>713154429
don't play games with free camera
as simple as that

>>713146142
>>713147983
>>713148139
>promo video
He was right, physics are regressing.

>>713152716
liked the trailer for 2 more than I did the one for 1. I know 1's trailer was some legendary marketing that got millions to buy the first game. but this one is just more enjoyable and memorable to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWFaj4IQ4ro
>2014
where did the time go

>>713148959
Note, the other guy isn't me, the one who made the original post. It's posts like yours that are why I worded mine the way I did: destructible environments are nothing new, but something that was super impressive visually like Red Faction Guerilla--where you can knock most of the level down--don't actually have that much going on with the destruction beyond that.

Games like The Finals are unique because the rubble and such isn't remotely just a visual detail or effect, and the way rubble and collapsible buildings stay are full physics-driven terrain that fully impacts gameplay in a multiplayer environment is something that you don't really have any other examples of. It's a true next-gen game.

>>713116940
>They had to
They really didn't, actually. They could have just not.

>>713156861
noita already did it back in 2020

>be square enix
>be lauded for pretty pre rendered graphics rendered using super computers
>be square enix
>use live rendering of games with problems like hair shimmering
>be joke of industry
why they dont go back to pre rendering is beyond me
unlike ages ago, where everything was pre rendered and pre baked, everyone is doing things live and things look bad.
if square enix did prerendered prebaked stuff again, it would look much better than the entire competition and they would be kings of pretty graphics again

>>713156714
>2014

>>713121752
REmake's voice acting is fine though?

>>713157118
fuck wrong image

>>713116140 (OP)
Erm buy the 5090 and enjoy your Raytracing and ai chuddie

>>713156898
No it didn't. Noita didn't get multiplayer until very recently, and it's through a janky mod that only has to worry about cooperative play when it comes to networking logic. I'd even go as far as to say Noita is also more focused on the alchemical, rather than execution of destruction and physics within the same context as The FInals, but I won't deny that it's there and a valued part of play.

Pre 2010 devs were competent people being overworked and paid peanuts.
Post 2010 devs are incompetent people being paid sawdust.
And for anybody wondering, you can use old stuff like baked lighting and nobody would give a fuck. Raytracking is a gimmick and most gamers can't even tell when it is implemented.
The only reason onions devs do that is because they were all taught by the same "press a button and your engine will make shit for you" coursera college dropout teachers.
They have no concept of how anything functions and just mindlessly copy paste instructions.
For even more horror, don't ever look at zoomie math test. They memorize 2+2 = 4 but have a nervous breakdown if the question is 2+1. Those are your future "engineers".

>>713157279
whos talking about coop you retard
every and I mean EVERY pixel is part of the physics engine in noita. which is much more precise than your "every object has physics" engine. pixels are smaller and thus more impressive than objects.
also finals isnt a game, its the exam period for high school.

>>713149291
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS IT MAKES ME MAD

>>713157741
>whos talking about coop you retard
Me. I specified multiplayer in the post you were replying to. You aren't reading the posts you're replying to.

>>713156868
Noo! Don't goo!

>>713157489
Look at this teenager basement-dweller high school dropout, being an expert on software development from when before he was born.

>>713157489
>he uses 2010 for the cutoff for "devs"
A key problem is the background of the devs, a modern young dev can be just as good or better than a older dev but it is unlikely on average.
You had a transition of EE into CS and now the modern batch of slave labor for game development are either CS or game design/coding as the greater demographic foundation of who is churning shit out.
Competency has just been getting worse with the numerical increase of manpower which is normal.

Luckily AI will probably solve that at some point.

i follow many 3d artist
they make really good stuff
but no studio would hire them as the lead artists or art director because their vision would be too expensive, riskey and make out sourcing impossible

>>713158291
I am sorry 2+1 caused you to have a aneurism.
>a modern young dev can be just as good or better than a older dev
Nope, score inflation makes that impossible.
>CS
Nobody who finished CS post 2015 goes into gaming.The pay is a joke and you have plenty other options. Recruiters try to nab people during their first year and make them quit.
>game design/coding
This is the big problem. All these "game design courses" are simply atrocious.
>Luckily AI will probably solve that at some point.
AI is being trained on their garbage. And soon AI will be trained on its own garbage which is even worse. It ain't looking better.

>>713153779
FF8 backgrounds are all gorgeous but winhill is the one that always pop first when I think about FF8. Would love to live in a similar country side town.

>>713155105
cool story nigger, your games are still shit and you'll never be a developer.

>>713116664
i would just let AI re-scale it to modern resolutions, i don't trust modern devs even for anything as simple as that.

>>713116664
REMake was the peak of that artstyle but Tormented Souls is the closest attempt since. Also those Mimimi games before they shut down

>>713116140 (OP)
>modern devs: “It’s literally impossible to make a game look like this”
literally nobody said this

>>713116940
>>713116140 (OP)
do ya'll not get this is how UE5 is able to have these crazy graphics now, its all faking//rendering pictures in a 3d space rather than loading individual models. Its like you're walking around inside a picture that constantly updates to your every move

>>713148669
>>713121583
why are you retards comparing full-time employees of companies to hobbyists making games in their free time? You think home owners should be mowing their lawn as often as professional gardeners too?