High-end PCs are a never ending trap
and with games becoming more and more demanding, the more trapped you become with the urgency to keep updated

>>713177040 (OP)
Dont play shit games
Upgrade once every ten years

/thread

>>713177040 (OP)
I just buy decent midrange stuff every few years, it's a pretty manageable hobby expense wise.

I've never needed like, 80 or 90 series stuff even when I could afford it, that's usually well past the point of diminishing returns

>>713177040 (OP)
how so?
I build a high end pc every 5-7 years, give old one to family and sell the gpu since they don't need it.

>>713177040 (OP)
>shalom! i am a journalist and i think humans have no agency over their own actions! give me ad revenue clicks!
Screenshot threads of reddit, twitter or gaming articles should be a bannable offense. Not three days, not thirty, permanent.

>>713177040 (OP)
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE HARDWARE

>>713177897
I used to upgrade once every year basically until 2018 and decided to build a high end pc. Only just upgraded from that literally 2 weeks ago. This is the only way to do it imo.

My previous PC cost less in the time I kept it than I would have spent on online for consoles in the same time period.

>>713177214
The problem is the 5080 is now a midrange card sold for hyper flagship prices so when you buy your upgraded "midrange" gpu you are picking up dog shit entry level hardware that will age like milk

This is why I appreciate AMD for never letting AM4 die, they made upgrading much cheaper and easier. They're even doing the same shit with AM5.

>>713177040 (OP)
okay, $80 game enabler

>>713177040 (OP)
Stop playing AAA trash. Journos and the industry are in cahoots, trying to condition you to spend more money with less resistance. You should pirate their garbage and laugh in their faces.

>>713177190
I do GPU every 5, CPU+MB+Mem+GPU every 10. Storage as needed.

>>713177040 (OP)
>the more trapped you become with the urgency to keep updated
To play what? My RTX 2060 does just fine because there's no new slop actually worth playing.

I upgrade the GPU every generation.
I upgrade the CPU each time it's worth it.
If I'm not doing this I might as well play on console.

>tfw you can't afford a trap

>>713177040 (OP)
>Tanveer
Go be poor and brown somewhere else.

>>713177040 (OP)
That's ironic because nothing shown in that image is high end

you could argue the 502X since it has a high end price, but its a heavy piece of shit

>>713177190
If you don't change out your motherboard, CPU GPU, and ram every 3 years MINIMUM you are a revolting poorfag.

>>713178501
You people really obsessed with these trio

>>713180815
>mangled seething English instantly outing himself as at least two of these things

>>713177040 (OP)
I have a 5900x, a 4080, and 64gb of ram and the most demanding game I play is Rimworld

>>713177040 (OP)
>games becoming more and more demanding, the more trapped you become with the urgency to keep updated
don't tell me he says this "problem" is solved by buying a console that is already at least 5 years behind high end PC at launch

>>713180939

>>713177040 (OP)
You can still play most games with a i7 4790 and rx 290 from like 12 years ago, and that was high end at the time. The last 3 generations of cards didn't significantly increase performance. If you aren't retarded and don't have fomo, it's very easy to not chase components.

>saar singh

I don't care about 4k, anything over 60fps or meme shit like raytracing so my PC parts are never too expensive. $1,000 every 5 years or so.

>>713177040 (OP)
Everytime I think about upgrading my PC I take a look at the games coming out and realize there is nothing worth upgrading for

I bought a $3,700 gayman laptop for $2k in 2022 and I have yet to encounter something I can't play at 1080p 60fps with DLSS and shit turned off. I think it's hilarious how much money you tards spend on the highest end of components when you're just watching youtube videos and jerking off. It's not like you guys are rendering video or actually using AI for anything productive. You're just consumers.

>>713179107
Get a job so you can keep up with inflation poorfag.

>>713177214
All the Nvidia numbers have been switched up from previous generations. That's why there's no discrete 5050, it's called 5060 and costs 300 bucks.

8700k/GTX1080. I've got more than enough money to buy whatever I want but I refuse to pay the current prices for GPUs. Once I'm unable to play the stuff I want to play on this PC, I'm done with gaming in general.

>>713178743
this is true, though the 5080 overclocks to perform as well as a 4090 stock, so it's a bit better than midrange

but the thing is the industry has no where else to go
everything is stagnant and no one is going to upgrade their hardware anymore because it offers absolutely nothing in terms of experience

so things will age better now

>>713180815
>>713181191
Good morning saaars

>>713178743
It started with the 4090 have almost double the cores of the 4080. This made people think the xx80 is now dogshit when it isn't the case a generation ago

>>713182326
Kek, my 1070ti from 2017 has the same output as that laptop you wasted 2k on and you're whining that other people waste too much money when buying pcs

>>713179391
Why would you even pirate AAA?

>>713182862
This relabelling greedy rat shit started over a decade ago. It has just devolved to the point where a 5080 is barely even mid rage

>>713180815
Add reddit to it as well

>>713182757
Thats what we thought until UE5 and awful programming optimization around the board struck. So now its buying hardware for AI bullshit like fake frames, which only retards will do.

This is a fantastic thread of people bragging about $600 tier GPUs which only have 8GB VRAM. Now with all the GTX 1000 Pascal posters here from 60 to 70 to 80, those cards had 6-8-10gb VRAM. 10 years ago. Today it's 8GB entry level. Fascinating.

>>713183487
GPU market is a complete scam but retards kept buying so the price just kept going up. People are unironically using frame scaling & frame generation on $1000 GPUs and acting like nothing is wrong with that. Fucking insanity.

>>713177040 (OP)
I am not a retard i buy an above average PC for like 2000$ max and then i use it for the next 6-8 years.
And only if a new game i actually care about comes out and wont play on it.

My old I5 6600 whit a 1070 whit 16 gb of ram that cost me 1400$ back in the day lasted me 7 years.
I even played Tekken 8 and SF6 on it for a whole year before i upgraded and even finished Elden ring on it.
Irony is that i upgraded to a I7 13700 4070 32GB ram not that i found a game i cared about that did not work on my old pc but rather i wanted to avoid the upcoming inflation and price hikes due to AI like how crypto affected prices.

>>713177040 (OP)
In the 90s you could buy decent hardware and then be struggling to play a new release in only 2 years. Now you have graphic cards like the 1080ti that last nearly 10 years at being able to play most games.

I really don't see the argument. 3080 is nearly 5 years old and still plays everything at decent enough quality.
>Uhm but you can't do native 4k faggot settings!
Ok.

>>713183602
The VRAM hit for FrameGen is tested to be 1.5VRAM at 1080p and somewhere between 2GB-3GBVRAM for 1440p to 4K. Essentially what FrameGen does is predicts the next set of fake frames to render, but it needs the VRAM legroom to do it. Like humor me and pretend I'm explaining this to a child. A large canvas with a painter, the AI predicts a larger picture but it needs the "thinking" cap so it will enlarge the canvas. For this technology to work the AI has to have the headroom to think about how big the canvas will get. This type of technology that NVIDIA and AMD support with FrameGen only worth with VRAM.

It's a feature set of a product that won't work correctly unless you jump from entry level to mid level GPU prices. I don't know what the business term for this, but damn it is fucking greedy and blatant lmao. I get second hand embarrassment when PC gamers brag about 1080p today, when PS4 Pro was faking 4K in the mid 2010s and Xbox One X was close it as well. 8 year old devices. As old as the GTX 1000 Pascal family and we have PC gamers talking about "yeah 1080p is still great, I the performance and value for $400 8GB cards is fantastic! 1080p!"

>>713182935
Okay and? I can't bring a 1070ti with me when I travel and use it for anything, it's useless by itself.

>>713177040 (OP)
I got a 3090 on launch at MSRP when I built mine right before lock down. I’m not looking at upgrading SHIT until at least 70XX series and by then hopefully I’ll have finally mustered up the nerve to kill myself. Your move, gaming journos.

>>713184208
If you do actually travel often its understandable.
But you would be surprised how many retards buy a Laptop and never take it outside their home.
Basically paying extra for profitability they will never use.
Id rather just get a used switch or tablet alongside my phone if that alone is not enough for the rare times you do travel.

>>713183120
>a $1500 card is barely even mid range
the fuck kind of planet do you live on

>he doesn't buy a new computer every 3 years
I don't think you should be wasting time playing games, try to earn more instead

>>713184752
The planet that sells 16GB cards for 600 dollars. And the GTX Titan was $999 11 years ago.

>>713177040 (OP)
>oh noes, I have to spend $15000 every 2 years
I would have just spent that money on steak for 6 months.

>>713177040 (OP)
>be a wait fag
>dont care about new games because their all shit
>very happy.jpg
Not my problem ranjeesh

>>713177040 (OP)
I built my used 3090 and 10900K PC in 2021 and it's still holding up nicely and thermals are perfect. I drive a 1440p monitor and the only games I have low frames in are UE5 shitfests and something like Cyberpunk, but I still had a good time playing it with DLSS for a stable 60 fps, even with ray tracing. It's not even that games are becoming more demanding anyway, it's just that devs are becoming more incompetent. BG3, which is visually a beautiful game and came out 2 years ago, runs on every semi-modern system at high settings. Then look at something like RDR2, which is like 8 years old but still mogs most modern games graphically, especially the UE5 blurfests, and you can run it on a 1060.

>get told cant be hired because no exp out of college. continue to get told this for 12 years
>34, still have not had a single job that pays more than $20k/yr
whats it like being able to afford a bed, food to eat, and things like video games? making 30k/yr seems like some lottery winning fantasy

>>713183602
Isn't this because of crypto and proompting, tho?

>>713178743
>the 5080 is now a midrange card
How so?

>>713177190
Basically this, I have a 5090 and the only games I've played in the last six months is Fallout 2 and Kenshi. OP is assuming that everyone is playing the latest and most current games. Nope. New shit is generally mid or a DEI-festival.

>>713180478
"I must spend money on new things all the time" is poorfag mentality, though.

>>713185248
what was your degree in?

>>713177190
This. I basically build a new PC every 10 years for the fuck of it. I don't even buy the best components every time I do it. When I have to start reducing game options and the resolution and still can't get a good framerate I know the time is near. People who do constant upgrades are wasting their time, and money. The only thing you should be doing is cleaning out the case at least once a year

>>713177040 (OP)
>Build PC with 550W PSU
>Smaller than matx case
High end components don't even fit in my bad boy.

I have a 1660 super with a 768p monitor kek, I can run the games I want with good graphics and more of them with 100 frames, I just hate unreal engine 5 shit that warms my gpu like stalker 2 (I made it playable with frame gen and xess ultra+ on medium to high) and fbc firebreak, was playing a bit o diablo 4 with everything high except medium textures.

>>713185554
Retardology

Still using my 1070 8GB

>>713177040 (OP)
Upgrade only qhen you need it don't buy the penis enalrgement card that's all

>>713185248
I didn't go to college and I make around $80k/yearly. I live alone and have no friends or family so I feel bad most of the time. But outside of that, yeah. Getting whatever I feel like getting is dope.

>>713185554
no matter what it is youll greentext it and says its stupid

>>713184539
Why the fuck would someone buy a laptop with no intention of taking it outside their home??? the fuck

>>713185815
Because MUH it looks cool and mush extra space in muh room.

>>713185554
Lesbian poetry.

>>713185631
Congrats little PC master race bro on having a PC build that's 10 years old and can't play modern games since those are Raytracing mandatory now like FF7 Rebirth and Doom Dark Ages.

>>713185730
Then maybe it is, brokeanon.

>>713177190

fpbp

>>713177040 (OP)
>"dude you are trapped!"
>have 1660ti on a i7 2600k
>play shit like factorio, point and clicks, picayune, noita, etc or 30yo classics
>haven't played AAA game since forever
>haven't played AA game since code vein
what am i supposed to be afraid of, exactly?

>>713180478
I have more money than you though by not doing this absurd nonsense you are proposing.

>>713185914
Why would he want to play those games tho?

DLSS fixes that. Just use more aggressive DLSS as games get more demanding.

>>713185982
Nothing, this is a normalfag problem.

>>713185503
why?

I'm only running a 3060. My graphics card is the worst component on my PC, and because I spent a little extra on RAM and a CPU, it still runs just about everything at 60fps or better. As long as you're not shitting your pants for the highest end graphics on the most poorly optimized games, it's FINE. People obsess over their graphics card, dump a grand into one component, cheap out on the rest, and piss themselves when their games keep crashing. Modern graphics cards aren't worth it, the highest graphics settings don't make a game more fun, the vast majority of games will not fully utilize even a 4080. Buy a better CPU, get a faster hard-drive, put another stick of ram in there. It's like dropping a 600hp engine into a stock civic.

>>713185914
I don't give a shit about those games though. Pic rel is my desktop and what I'm playing.

>>713185503
What do you spend your money on, if you're running on an Atari ST? I have a few thousand I set aside for upgrades because I like playing games and I don't like compromising on quality. That money could be invested and rolled over, for what benefit? I'll be miserable because I'm not playing vidya.

>>713186226
femboy games

>>713186221
No, I think you're internalizing being priced out of PC gaming and what the market reality has become. "Modern graphic cards aren't worth it", okay. The 3060 wasn't that good when it came out either and hasn't gotten better with time. 4K 60FPS should be the minimum for PC GPU these days.

Just sell shit as you upgrade, what the fuck? Even my GPUs barely lose any money now.

>>713186226
That's more of a case of your PC choosing which games you run rather than you.

>>713186226
I think what gets lost in this argument is that people like anon forget that millions of games exist and not everyone is playing, or interested in the newest blockbuster AAA title. Some people go their entire gaming career never touching the stuff. Especially within the last decade. Some kids are ignoring the big developers entirely.

>>713186289
nta but what even is that kind of question? do you think people only have vidya to spend money on?

>>713177040 (OP)
I'm not buying a $3000 piece of shit brick just to play one game

>>713186470
He asked you what you spend your money on. Why don't you answer him?

>>713186289
You'll be miserable if you cant play the latest triple-A cinematic pozzified slop?
This has to be a (((journalist)))

>anons mad that not everyone wants to play slop
lol
Hows that Tencent dick taste in your mouth?

>>713186453
The RTX 3060 wasn't cheap when it came out. That's what that anon has and he's already getting thrown into Low Medium settings at 1080p because NVIDIA and AMD want you to buy the cheapest then you feel squeezed out and you upgrade quicker to the middle or upper tier. And it's been working exceptionally well for their business practices, much more for NVIDIA. People who sell 8GB cards are always doing out of buyer's remorse.

>>713186587
still nta
i spend money on
>my garden, where i grow crops
>photography equipment
>my house
>camping
>my wife
i'm getting into another hobby which will be a bit on a more expensive side, but i need a license first
this is not counting the usual living expenses and occasional one-off stuff

>>713185914
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth runs on high 50fps on the GTX 1650 4GB if you use tools to bypass the block that prevents non RTX cards launching the game.

>>713186226
>1080p
>UK
>basketball score
>start menu in the center
>search bar
>widgets
>recycle bin on
>GeForce Experience when it's been dead for like a year now
>HiFi Rush
The only good thing you've got going on is Goat Simulator.

Just don't fall for the 4K meme and you won't need the overpriced junk.

>>713186789
what if you've already had years of surplus cash to buy everything you require for other things?

>>713177040 (OP)
Ryzen 5 3600
Geforce RTX 3060 Ti

runs everything worth playing
even gives me delicious AI slop

>>713186789
Spending money on your hobbies is poorfag mentality, though.

>>713186762
Yeah, bit of a moot point though. Because again, millions of games exist.

>>713186874
That's an 8GB VRAM card btw. Which is practically worthless.

>>713186916
yes, 100% of your money should be invested to make a good profit. Then when it comes to spend the profit on things you like you can't because if you do you're a poorfag

for GPU i usually upgrade every other gen but it was impossible to find a reasonably priced 5080 so I'm skipping until the mid gen goygrade instead. plus more VRAM and Physx support is needed.

>>713177190
This. If game devs want to be retards and target cutting edge hardware for their games I simply won't play them until I next upgrade my PC (in about 5 years).

>>713187010
Worthless for what? It works for me just fine.

>>713185332
Because you NEED to turn on RTX, PT, DLSSMFG, TAA, post-processing, motion blur, and chromatic fucking aberration, duh.
If your game doesn't look like a pile of blurry ass, how else will strangers on the Internet know that you have excessive disposable income?

>>713186789
I write everything off as a buisness expense for the most part. Be smart when doing your taxes and you won't have to invest much at all.

>>713186916
if you say so anon
>>713186869
i don't quite understand the question, are you asking "what if you were a milionaire"? then i'd prolly buy a new high-end pc, is that what you wanted to hear?

>>713187092
He fell for the 4K meme.

>>713187013
That logic fails when the "things you like" are AAA consoleshit woke trash that plays itself

>>713187093
Haha, that's a valid point. People need to know that my trustfund is bigger than theirs.

>>713186843
or you could fall for the 4k meme and just play good games instead, since those are either old, not demanding or CPU-based

>>713180478
I upgrade RAM as needed, but I only do full builds once every 10 years. If a PC doesn't last you 10 years you are wasting your money and making poor decisions in your build.

>>713185730
it was marketing, wasn't it?

>>713187010
I can use a 1660 super 6gb just fine by changing a bit of textures and shadow settings and other things, only unreal engine 5 games give me problems

>>713185123
I was 100% ready and primed to upgrade when this current gpu gen hit the market. I've been waiting since 2020, I have even older components in my PC, still sitting with DDR4 and shit. I waited, saw the prices, waited some more. I checked prices and made a test build to see what I'd get for optimal price/performance ratio.

I'm gonna wait some more.

>>713187096
the discussion is people who are saying it's poorfag mentality to buy new things.
You were asked what you spend your money on, which you listed a bunch of things.
Your response sounds like it's from the perspective of someone who usually has very little money, so has to choose wisely on how it's spent.
The perspective of people who are buying new PC parts is that they've already had money for months and years so have bought everything else. They don't need to choose wisely. If it turns out to be a bad purchase then can just buy something else.

>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=8gb+vram
>I do not recommend an 8GB card
>It would be a bad purchase to have an 8GB card
>Please avoid 8GB cards
>Don't waste your money on 8GB cards
>>713187142
>>713187092
>>713187437

>>713187013
But not reinvesting the profit to make more profit is poorfag mentality. You should never spend money except to make money, and you should ragepost on 4chan when people enjoy video games. Bonus points if you call someone a goy and a jew in the same sentence.

>>713185959
>law/medicine
>LMAO WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY
>business, marketing
>LMAO HE THOUGHT HE WOULD BE BILL GATES OR BEZOS, MEME DEGREE POINTLESS
>criminology, psychology, chemistry, physics, international relations, sports medicine, etc
>LMAO POINTLESS

In some ways youd be right. They're all pointless because 90% of jobs literally dont give a shit what your degree is in, and many dont really care if you have one at all.

>>713187498
The 30 year old postpooooooner

>>713186396
Hi shill, we can tell you dont play videogames

>>713187147
your logic fails when you figure out your opinion doesn't actually hold any weight with what other people choose to do

>>713187582
you missed off the guy with a GTX1070 and 1080p screen telling you to cope.

>>713177040 (OP)
just buy on a delay (for both hardware and games) and only play at 1080p
I'm rolling with a 5700xt I picked up for $120 and every single game in my library plays great with it.

>>713187598
The trick to having a lot of money is not spending any of it, and when you do think you want something you look at the price and decide that you're actually very okay with what you already have.

>>713187551
And this is why I have a fiduciary. Wasteful is for the peasants.

>>713187673
The RTX 3060 was a $330 MSRP card that was sold closer to 400 dollars. Year later it's not even good enough for Medium Native 1080p 60FPS. Much less 4K, which is what the PS4 Pro and Xbox One were doing in the mid 2010s. Bad value per performance is pro consumer awareness.

>>713187885
you let someone else control your finances?

>>713187860
you're literally playing cookie clicker with bank number.

I can sum up the poorfag argument.
>"NAME ONE GOOD GAME THAT REQUIRES MORE THAN I HAVE"
>how about X or Y? I love those games
>HAHAHA GOYSLOP YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING
This falls apart because people have different taste. Some people want to play something new because they see virtues of said game.
Buying hardware is a use case and budget thing.
>can't afford the greatest, but want to play as much as possible, so buy a budget price range
>don't care about new games, so buy an older card or stick with what they have
>want to play the newest stuff at the best details, and has disposable income, so buy the flagship
Being mad about anyone being in these categories is faggotry to the nth degree.
>BUT WOKE MOVIESLOP DEI GOY JEW ETC ETC ETC
Nobody really cares. If I listened to fags on /v/ about what's acceptable to play, I'd be enduring shitty gunplay in Deus Ex or toddler romances in FFIX. Instead, I play what I want to, and spend my money where I want to, and I'm reasonably happy.

>>713180815
GOOD MORNING!!!

>>713187580
>source: youtube influencers

>>713180478
I'm glad me being poor pisses you off so much. Yes, I will praise indie pixelshit over AAA slop. I will hold back the entire industry by holding onto my GTX 1080. And you WILL cope as I call your games bloated because they can't run on it.

Death to graphix whores.

So many of the recent builds on pcpartpicker are literal kids if they can get a PC and play games and you have to settle for a switch 2 you need to reconsider things

>>713188048
the jews hate me because I am a black hole, the money I have will never reenter the economy and I am still happy

>>713177040 (OP)
That's why I'm poor, so I can't get in that vicious cycle.

>>713186762
I have 3060 with Windows 7
I play mostly older TW, Starsector and some other indie games
why I would want more?

>>713188350
you do you. but why do you feel the need to inject what you do onto others?

>>713187965
Yes, my family has had the same wealth management firm for the last 9 generations.

>>713184208
My pc is the size of a small camera bag, I can literally fit it inside one and put it in a backpack. Only an idiot buys a gaming laptop instead of building an SFF pc

>>713188521
and they don't allow little timmy to buy a new PC.
lol bless

>>713188326
steam hardware survey says everyone runs 1080, some 1440 on high/mid settings on shit monitors but the publishers still insist on creating 500GB monstrosity games that are priced out of everyone's range and hardware requirements that are in the 1st percentile and most of those people don't even want to pirate their trash.
it makes no sense

>>713188592
No, I can buy whatever I want. I just don't because I'm not a dullard.

>>713186226
do me a favour, open task manager and screenshot how many processes you have running

>>713188650
so people who buy what they like are dullards, but you're not one because you don't and leave your money in the hands of other people.
I think you're just the family spastic to be honest

>>713188428
what? when did I do that? I said I waited to upgrade my PC and then I decided not to do it because I didn't want to pay what they ask for what they are trying to sell

>>713188650
I think we're being attacked by the brown OP who is angry that we decide not to spend money despite being able to afford it. I think he believes he is having one conversation instead of two

>>713188946
I'm not the OP and I'm not brown.
It's funny watching people claim they have lots of money all because they chose not to upgrade their computers.

Any game that won't run on an old 780 simply isn't a good video game.

>>713188631
I did the math a while back when people were claiming half the users couldn't run FF7 Rebirth, and it came out to like 68% had a card capable of mesh shaders (which means 2060 or 6600 or better).

Law, medical degrees, engineering (real engineering not cs), and business (if youre good looking, extroverted, and have a nepo connection) are decent degrees. Everything else is worthless

>>713177040 (OP)
It's true, I don't even want to see UE5 games in full clarity. They look absolutely disgusting.
Thank god for TAA and low frame rates.

I made my first $million by not buying $3000 worth of computer parts every 3 years

>>713186226
literally all shit except for Chadman Origins

>>713189184
Business degrees are beneficial in general if you want to climb the corporate ladder. You can literally move from a cashier job to a regional manager in a grocery store within a couple of years.

>>713185914
>you can't play cinematic pigslop like nuDoom and Final Fantasy Soiven
oh nooooo haha

>>713177040 (OP)
I always bought 60 series gpu every other generation and it was always enough for me. I don't understand why buy 70 80 or 90 if you are on a budget. 1060 was great for its time, 3060 12gb was great and now 5060 16gb suits me perfectly, I'm sure it will last until ps6 games

>>713189471
you can't run games which work on consoles?

>>713189540
Why would I want modern console slop? Are you gonna try advertising Uncharted next?

>>713189701
>why would anyone want to play all those games which my dogshit computer can't run
I don't know anon

>>713189540
You want to play games that exist on consoles?

>>713189840
Maybe my "dogshit computer" already plays the good games, and anything else isn't even worth mentioning.

>>713189056
have you seen the price for a decent PC lately? anyone spending that without serious thought and intent is an idiot. either a poor idiot, or a rich idiot, but an idiot nonetheless. being careful with money is how to retain what you have

>>713177040 (OP)
I'm good at building/selecting components that last me a decade or longer.

>>713177040 (OP)
A decent gpu (5090) is only 3k
Upgrade every second gen (albeit the even gens, not the odd ones so wait till the 6xxx) and you're golden
If you cannot afford 3k every 5 years or so then there's something wrong with you
Plus not to mention the rest of it is like only 2k

so all in about 5kover 6 years

>>713177040 (OP)
with this in mind, 1080p or 1440p?

>>713177040 (OP)
I'm sure this is a bait post but I just thought I'd share my perspective anyways.

I had the same gaming laptop with a GTX 1070 in it until my laptop was destroyed with a bunch more of my shit when my apartment flooded last month due to a burst pipe. Apartment insurance paid me out more than the crap I lost was worth, so honestly it worked out.

I got that laptop on sale in the summer of 2018. It was perfectly good at playing Helldiapers 2, space mureen 2 and marvel racists, which were the main three games I've been playing with my friends.

I just got a laptop with an rtx 4070 in it on sale for the summer - time to do the same thing for another seven years at least.

Constantly upgrading to the latest and greatest is an entirely voluntary hamster wheel to hop onto that will never satisfy you. It's not 1995 anymore computers don't become obsolete in nine months anymore. And I don't have a desktop because I don't much care for them at all, I just like building them for my friends for free I think hard tubing is fun to set up in desktops with crazy luminescent colors.

>>713190098
Why is it always poors who judge what others spend money on?

>high end

If my parts were high end again, i'd still play on medium. I don't care, i just want decent frames.

>>713177040 (OP)
you don't actually get trapped unless you're a moron who wants to play all modern unoptimized slop
and the latest GPUs are garbage stay away from nvidia unless you like wasting money like a mongoloid

>>713190338
what are decent frames?

>>713177040 (OP)
Might as well claim buying a TV is a trap.
Lack of self control isn't a machines problem.

>>713189990
How do you know if you can't play them?

>>713190514
anyone who buys food has a poorfag mentality

>>713190549
I know a bad game when I see it, and the "fans" are all soi chuggers who can't explain why it's good, without resorting to ad hominem or popularity fallacies. ANY game where the fandom has to pull up metacritic, for example, is a guaranteed stinker.

>>713190660
>I know a bad game when I see it,
How?

>>713190586
Yes.
>Here's how eating food traps you in life forever.

>>713190805
nobody needs to fill their food cupboards up. anyone who does is a retard. I know, because I've never done it myself.

The worst part is the monitors. I don't want to get another monitor but I have a 4070s Ti and it feels silly that I only use 1080 because that's the best my monitor puts out.

>>713190894
don't you have a modern TV ?

>>713190767
My mystic third eye. Git gud.

>>713190937
Yes and playing on it is ass, I hate doing it.

>>713191013
they use the same panels as monitors. unless your tv is some really bad chinese 50hz thing lol

>>713177040 (OP)
pure bullshit

>>713190470
60. if i have to drop to low, i don't care. i can upgrade my pc, but as long as it's playable i dont mind.

>>713177040 (OP)
Oh yea, having to upgrade every five years is a huge problem trap I guess....

>>713191207
you know high end parts do 100s of frames?

>>713191010
this - it just works
my sixth sense is never wrong. I only ever make mistakes if I stop listening to it

>>713177040 (OP)
Facts. The more powerful pc I have, the less games I feel motivated to play.
I went high end with my current build 5 years ago and it scratched the itch. I doubt I will ever go high end again. If I were to choose again, it would be mid-range 6core cpu with xx60 gpu.

>>713177040 (OP)
>and with games becoming more and more demanding
>still run on the steam deck somehow
Are you working for nvidia?

>>713191380
and that's how you ended up in a situation where you can't buy nice things

>>713191440
so games are best on console?

>>713190894
If you can afford a 4070, you're clearly not poor, yet you're still using monitors from c. 2012 ? Why? Do you not use your computer for anything else?

>>713187093
My 5080 can run all that shit just fine. I just don't.

>>713191473
When the game looks exactly like a game you played before, you have a good way to tell if its any good.

>>713179515
This is the patrician way.

>>713191549
running a new game at 30fps 720p low settings will look similar to running old games at 30fps 720p low settings

>>713191618
A gears of war shitty clone looks like gears of war, regardless of how much "middling episode of walking dead" you add to it.

>>713191549
You know what I noticed? Nobody panics when things go according to the plan, even if the plan is horrifying. If, tomorrow, I tell /v/ that Nintendo sold the same game over and over as Pokemon versions, nobody panics because it's all part of the plan. But when I say that one little texture gets reused in an Unreal Engine game, well then everyone loses their minds!

>>713178743
5080 is not a midrange card lmao

The 5070 is firmly where the midrange is and desu I'd consider the 9060 XT and 5060 Ti to both be midrange as they both slightly outperform the PS5 Pro.

>>713188326
You're not holding back the industry with a 10 year old GPU. Games with optimization aren't even stressing current cards the same way that Crisis was infamous for, they're just poorly optimized based on assumptions derived from the shared memory on consoles.
The industry is far more held back by the stagnant controllers that are at best hovering around 7th gen capabilities (motion controls on the dual sense) and at worst hovering around 5th gen capabilities (dual analog and nothing else on the Xbox).

>>713178743
>the third most powerful GPU that can OC up to about on par with the second most power GPU is midrange
What the fuck am I reading? Midrange is like a 4070.

>>713191834
Have you considered not looking at gears of war clones if you dislike gears of war?

>>713192063
>5080 can OC to a 4090 guys
nope

>>713177897
basically this, built a 5090/9950x3D combo, gave my old 3090 to my sister and built her a new PC so she wouldn't fry her MacBook with the intensive art softwares she uses, and my little bro has my old 5800x CPU with my old 1060 6gb, though I'll be getting him a better GPU maybe at the end of the year.

>>713191507
Hmm personally I wouldn't say that because I don't find consoles interesting. When I do play vidya, I prefer it on pc and the idea of building a mid-range pc (or using older gen parts) just excites me more nowadays.

>>713191349
DLSS doesn't count, faggot.

>>713192079
>Have you considered using your psychic powers to preemptively stop any video with something you dislike from even loading, specially when its a thing that has a billion dollar marketing campaign?

Sadly we live in a world where australia is still intact and there's no giant robots with heated axes and people born with weird powers in space
So that is not feasible.
However, i can judge a game quickly by looking how it is played if i played a similar game before, and no amount of marketing money will make it good for me.

>>713177040 (OP)
lol I'm still playing games on a 2060.

>>713192264
>it doesn't count
who says?

>>713192298
People who know AMD are the good saars. They are the winning saars.

>>713192281
the more you post the more retarded you sound

>>713192298
Mostly the part where games have motion and DLSS looks like dogshit in these cases

>>713192168
OC'ing a 5080 gives you performance within about 5% of a 4090 at 4K, and that's even with a big VRAM difference. Don't shitpost about things you don't understand.

>>713192453
>motion
That's frame gen. Not DLSS. Good to see retards are out in force

>>713192510
run me a benchmark on your 5080

>>713185248
You were supposed to do internships during your college years to gain experience, but you were surrounded by psychotic boomers who are seemingly allergic to giving such simple advice. That said, you can literally just make shit up on your resume and more than half the time they won't even do their due diligence in confirming it because there are so many applicants for any given position.

>>713177040 (OP)
I'm not trapped until I get a job that actually requires the good shit.
Until then I'm gaming on console priced parts for console lifespan amounts of time.

>>713192518
you're still using AI shit. that makes you the pajeet.

>>713192559
Are you fucking stupid? Just look up any benchmark for OC'd 5080s online. Please don't be stupid enough to pretend those magically don't count. Please, please don't be that fucking stupid.

>>713192446
Brain is busy cooking something else, but to try to make an actual point, you can get a pretty good idea on how a game plays by just watching a video of it if it's a game very similar to one you already played.

>>713177040 (OP)
Maybe if you have no self control. I just turn the settings down.

>>713177040 (OP)
property is prison and also theft

>>713177040 (OP)
Simply buy the best possible hardware but use a much lower resolution than it was inteded for and cap fps etc as needed. It will last you the longest. I bailed on the hardware upgrade train after the 1080 and decided to stick with 60fps at 1080p and don't regret it at all.

>>713191508
I got it when I built my computer that had was using a 2060 in 2020. It's 1080p 144hz with a good screen and I just never thought about it until a month ago.

>>713177040 (OP)
I don't care about playing the latest slop anymore. Old games/indie titles is all i really need now, no need for me to upgrade anything for a long while.

>>713192518
Nope, DLSS.
All TAA solutions works by changing the previous frame to look like the current frame to accumulate shit like sub-pixels, shadow details all that.
And when there's a lot of motion, it is just harder to perform make the previous frame look like the current frame.
If your mom's ass was covering half of the frame on the last frame, but she's out of the picture in the current frame, you have to either just fill the gaps with the low resolution, noisy current frame shit, or invent shit.
DLSS is better than regular TAA at that, but it's still not perfect.

I'm baffled games are still selling record units and hardware are still being sold out at release, how can anyone look at the Switch 2 or 5070 and think they're worth the money is beyond me, like how retarded is the average consumer.

>>713177040 (OP)
>"IF YOU WANT TO PLAY LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE NEW RELEASE IN MAX YOU HAVE TO UPGRADE CONSTANTLY"
literally the most braindead most retarded argument against owning a PC

>Everything runs like shit these days because of stupid proprietary middle ware designed for the explicit purpose of making the performance of older hardware "worse"
>You can avoid this by just not playing games that are terrible and not worth playing anyway

>>713192656
>I can't
I know.

>>713192878
>image quality is important
while running a dogshit computer with old GPU and low res monitor
lmao

>>713192518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJUn7Kc3W3A

Here, have this absurdly exagerated case to see what i mean.

(360p stretched to 1080p, super fast game).

>>713192820
for a long while, people laughed at the guys who bought a 1080ti for 1080p but they're still going strong today

>>713193060
If your computer is so good, why you need DLSS? if it was actually high end, you should be able to play modern games with FSAA at the maximum resolution and refresh rate of your screen.

>>713193079
>posts DF video with a 1080p DLSS upscale from 360p
lol still runs better than your pc

>>713185123
Waitfags who skipped 40xx got fucked when 50xx was revealed to be dogshit with barely any improvement tbf

>>713193187
>I like high FPS
>without DLSS
>on my shit PC
this is what you've said. retard

>>713177040 (OP)
Moreso consoles, at least PCs can alter settings. Consoles run games at lower than lowest settings to get 40fps with drops

>>713177040 (OP)
>tanveer singh
SAAR SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE HIGH END PC PARTS SAAR YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTARD

>>713193297
They should optimise it!!!!! (notice I spelled "optimise" in this way to show I'm not a third world amerishart. I give away 60% of my paycheck to pay for insurance for refugees, and pay 30% sales tax on everything. Life is better)

>>713193470
you don't get high fps without dlss on a shit pc.
I don't give a fuck what your larp is with your money either

>>713193556
Imagine being so dumb you can't tell it's sarcasm.

>>713193605
imagine being so retarded you thought it was funny to post

IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTERS

>>713192960
https://youtu.be/G-99ziZT4M4?si=VxoaH-u6q106hcw3
Now do your mental gymnastics and explain why it doesn't count.

>>713193641
>can't read sarcasm due to ESLitudositismness and likely autism
>moves goalposts and goes "WELL IT WASN'T FUNNY"
No joke is funny when you don't get them.

>>713177040 (OP)
I got my PC back in 2021. I can play newly released games at 60fps 1440p (clair obscur) just fine.

Clickbait. Its laughable to anyone who was gaming in the 90s that these people are yelling about high end PC components trapping you, at a time when your hardware 'lasts' far longer and plays games at high end settings far longer, than before. Part of it is because of console homogenization using basically low to mid grade PC components, part of it is common engine usage, and MUCH better support for API / SDK aswell as tech like Vulkan, as well as commodity hardware. In the 90s you could spend $3000+ on a PC and it may not be able to PLAY a game next year at all, depending on the architecture, components, and a fuckload of other things from that era.

>Recent video card garbage
The issue is that Nvidia in particular has been spendin the last 5 years stewing about scalpers getting big bucks during the cryptomining boom, so they wanted to sell for more and more. NV has been shitty in other ways, such as spending the past several years pushing raytracing and other tech with MASSIVE penalties to performance and questionable benefits, so they can push their DLSS as the only way to make this garbage playble. Despite FSR and XESS evolving as well, NV is really the ones spending the money - jusit as they did with shit like PhysX and GameWorks - for their own benefit, and ensuring that game devs and especially engines like UE5 to push those features despite lack of optimization and limited benefit in many cases. Now, its a matter of keeping-up-with-the-Joneses for everyone else over the past years to always claim they're using RT and the like. Much of this has to do with Nvidia's changeover to being an LLM/compute company over the past few years, so they've basically bent gaming into the things that favor them - a major reason that even with the fucking 5090 they still highlight DLSS with framegen vs raw power. Lets also remember Trump's stupid tariffs jack the prices again and give cover for greater profiteering as well.

>>713177190
My last pc I built was 10 years ago. I just ordered parts to do a 7800x3d build, 4790k did me good for longer than any other cpu I ever owned.

>>713193985
DirectX specifications roll out slower due to Moore's Law grinding to a halt. It's getting harder to jam more on a die. From 2003 to 2006, you had 4 revisions of DX9 come along, and then DX10.

>>713193470
>brown person seething about america.
Wow never seen this one before

>>713192913
the average consumer is brown, so pretty fucking retarded

>>713192195
does your sister need anyone to motorboat her clit?

>>713194338
>another ESL autist not being able to read dripping sarcasm
>calls someone else brown

>>713194527
Oi guv, inshallah, oym being facetious aynoy? Poppycock!

>>713194517
she's 30, single, so be my guest

>>713194626
>literally referred to giving away 60% of paychecks and stupidly high sales taxes
>ESL thinks I was seriously defending that bullshit

>>713194273
This is true. There's also more progress for alternatives in OpenGL and especially Vulkan. Some of DX had more to do with Windows' development and support including the transition from Win9x to WinNT, and then a number of other features where updated Windows versions were "required" in order to roll out newer DX features, especially with DX10 and newer (DX 9.0c was one of the last old style DX, with 10, 11, and 12 all predicated on using the newest Win OS each time. MS also does this with other stupid shit like how the Thread Director update for thescheduler is basically necessary if you're running Intel 12000 series or newer, AMD 16 core X3D CPUs, among others but is only available on Win11)

On the hardware side though, Moore's Law is slowing and becoming more expensive to fabricate high end CPUs and GPUs (also the fabs themselves are more limited almost down to TSMC and to a lesser degree Intel which do their own work but has been...less than desirable over the past few years), so yeah its a lot of things going on

>>713177040 (OP)
You can just put DLSS to balanced and turn down some settings, it's not hard.

Most games are still on PS4 and can scale down well.

>>713194778
I dont care, browny brown

>>713177040 (OP)
The solution is to not play shit (aka modern AAA) games and not be a mindless consumer. Build a new PC, upgrade the gpu a few years in, a few more years in do a full rebuild. Play your cards right and 90% of your components will last 10+ years. Replacing shit every other year for no reason other 'bigger number go higher' is mindless consumerist behavior.

>>713196330
You don't understand, I need top shelf components to run minecraft.

>>713177190
fippy bippy

>>713192453
DLSS quality looks better than the original half the time and just as good most of the time if you aren't going pixel hunting next to a chainlink fence.

>>713177040 (OP)
I've got a 3060 and I'm not getting anything new anytime soon, I'm starting to realize that games (AAA or not) don't have to look good to be good, as long as the gameplay loop is fun then that's all that matters to me. I'm also more than happy running at 1080 and 60fps. pic-rel.

>>713177190
My 10 year build (4770k+GTX1080) is reaching its end. What GPU should I get now to last me 10 years?

>>713199373
1080 is all you need. Don't play goyslop for pajeet shill consoomer paypigs with buyer's remorse.

>>713177040 (OP)
My 3090 runs everything
no i don't need to play garbage AAA turds

>>713177190

>>713199373
I went from a 1080 Ti @ 1440p to 4070 Ti Super @ 4k and it's been pretty comfy.

>>713177040 (OP)
What "urgency", you retard?
Nothing has been made for the last 7 years worth updating hardware for.
Only actual piss drinkers give a shit about fake frame gimmicks and higher numbers with fuck all to show for it and worse graphics, optimization and coding than we had 15 years ago.

>>713199824
No good games require electricity, AC shill.

>>713177190
Ok dobson

>>713177190
Nah, while 10 years is a good rule of thumb it's really all in what you're looking to play, and what you have. You could be running a 980ti today, and be perfectly happy.

>>713177040 (OP)
Last gen used high end pc components are often a very good deal though op.

>>713179391
I can't even think of a modern AAA game that's worth pirating. Maybe RDR2? The gameplay, quest, level, and character design sucks, but it's pretty to look at.

>>713190109
Is it worth it when people buy your card for 400 dollars in a few years?

>>713177040 (OP)
Damn, it must suck to be poor.

>>713177190
>Dont play shit games
>Upgrade once every ten years
Most sensible person in this thread.

>>713202029
>play good games
>upgrade when a new flagship comes out

I suspect GPUs have hit a plateau unless you really want framegen. The 4070s and 5080 aren't too far apart in actual frames.