F
https://www.patreon.com/posts/dreamsettler-has-131929898

Well that sucks.

>>713209043 (OP)
What did they blew all their money on?

How do you fail to create a glorified newgrounds game

Damn son, I just wanted more Hot Dad jingles

>>713209043 (OP)
that sucks, one of the few things I was looking forward to

>>713209043 (OP)
>it's cancelled because um we had a budget and a design document and it was really complicated and we made a lot of really cool stuff um everyone did really good work chowderman recorded a lot of music but um it's cancelled
cool

>>713209652
>watching some random youtube video
>not really paying attention
>some outro music comes on
>I-is that fucking chowder man!?!
I didn't realize until then he was an actual musician.

>>713209043 (OP)
>spend all this time making a fake internet engine so fags could make their own fake internet pages
>drop it
All I wanted was Hypnospace 2 with more Chowderman and Fre3zer

Damn, guess I'll shonk some dank nubs to dull the pain.

>>713209043 (OP)
Damn, that sucks.

>Make “the internet was always leftist, nerd-chud”: the game
>Try to sell a sequel
>It dies
AAAAAA HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN

>>713209043 (OP)
>erm hi everybody, games cancelled but I gotta go to bed so watch the video
>video: hey everybody, games cancelled, we worked a lot, but games cancelled, hotdad made music and we worked real hard but no reason given games cancelled, Ill make a text post later but YAAAAWWWWWN IM SO SLEEPY
why not make the announcement after you slept?

>>713209841
>2001+24
>not being a klyfta chad
https://youtu.be/bRkHPmJrVtA?si=79gxpbwZPEKwQYsF

What miserable news.

Coolpunk is officially dead

>>713209043 (OP)
>I can’t find the motivation to do my job
Ah, he’s a loser.

>patreon that's making them 4 grand a month on top of the sales from Hypnospace and the Zane shooter
Dream Settler is cancelled
what the fug

>>713210015
Why delay the announcement when you can delay the explanation?

>I am offering refunds for the most recent Patreon payment (sorry, I can't afford more than that)
The fuck did he spunk the hypnospace money on? Does he have a gambling problem?

>>713210181
Because in the announcement I would like an explanation, both should come together. Your cancellation announcement cant wait 8 hours?

>>713210165
well you see uh the game had a spreadsheet reader and we made like a um a flash thing and everything was great and um for that reason the game is um cancelled

>>713209043 (OP)
What a damn shame, fuck did they even do with the money

>>713209043 (OP)
But...but I was waiting for it...

>>713209043 (OP)
Fuck........
I was really looking forward to this,

>>713210165
4grand is nothing when paying a dev team. Not to mention hypnospace is 9 years old, the profits from it are barely dribbling out. This is a project that should have started much earlier

>>713209043 (OP)
this was unironically the only game besides the new digimon i was looking forward to

>>713210275
We’re not going to get any better explanation that]n
>I’m unmotivated or maybe burnt out
>The project was more complicated than we could handle and we dragged it out too long

>>713209043 (OP)
If Routine gets formally cancelled I'ma bout to lose it

>Hi everyone, Jay here. This is a difficult time and I need to go to bed so I'm going to keep the text portion of this brief.
so make the announcement tomorrow...wtf?

>>713210051
S-SHUT UP!

>>713210275
No. The sooner people learned its cancelled the sooner they can stop paying it. No need to explain why they should cancel yet

>>713209043 (OP)
Fuck man, I was looking forward to this so much

Eh, the second half of hypnospace kinda sucks dick anyhow, trolling Faudiolists or whatever was retarded, should have angled the game on mystery URLs instead like when you type in www dot google dot com SLASH vader and find holy shit theres a whole secret star wars game.

>>713209043 (OP)
I've literally never heard of this game; and I promise I don't care now.

Sucks to suck, I guess?

>>713210498
>coolpunk is extra fucking dead now
cant even bwl in this situation

Sort of seems like artificial problems

>>713209043 (OP)
>thanks for the free money, idiots

What a shame. Hypnospace Outlaw is a one of a kind game. The kind of kino that you have to dig hard to find. I guess I'll be thankful we got that, at least.

Incidentally and on that subject, do you guys know of any games that can even attempt to scratch a similar itch to Hypnospace Outlaw? I have Desktop Explorer (Pic related) wishlisted but that's literally all I can think of. I'm not really looking for Analog Horror or Hacker type shit. That gives a different vibe even if it seems superficially similar.

I would've thought that Devolver would get behind them since they published their previous game Dropsy. Oh well

>We do want to release or at least show much of what was made, but there still wasn't any gameplay or even a fake internet to see
Hol' up, how long has it been since the game was announced? I would have though the fake net would have been the first thing that got hashed out after the story, even if it was just with placeholder stuff.

>>713210775
he took the money and ran

Now I'm worried about Broken Reality 2000

>>713210275
It's a natural progression for Devs to leave the gaming industry after a decade or so because they realize it's one of the shittiest jobs on the planet.

>>713210775
it sounds like they made all the functional components but now that it's time to build a real game with them he's noping out

NOOO WTF
This was one of the only cool projects keeping me going, Hypnospace was a nostalgic masterpiece ,_,

>another aimless schizocore game that depleted it's loosh-harvesting potential

Let me guess the daily dopamine dose from people patting him on the back started going down so time to cancel this and go all in on some similar project that is going to bring the dopamine back to not-gonna-unperson-myself-today levels

None of this makes sense, even from a scam standpoint.

They made a patreon just 3 months ago. What changed?

>>713210775
it makes sense to a degree, hypnospace was built using a page builder and fake "language" they made just for the game. they needed music and videos recorded for plot beats ahead of time too like the coolpunk stuff and the mindcrash
doesnt surprise me that scope creep is probably what killed the game. imagine getting multiple albums worth of songs, videos recorded for fake youtube, fake newspapers and all this worldbuilding and then needing to build a game around it

>>713209043 (OP)
This actually fucking sucks

Going to fucking rope

>>713209043 (OP)
nice patreon scam lmaoo

>>713210957
Idk, I feel like that sort of thing should motivate a person. Sure maybe its overwhelming, but when youve got a passionate team thats like "LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF WEVE MADE" its profoundly shitty to pull the plug.

Damn, that fucking bites

>>713210775
They mentioned before it was more than just webpages like hypnospace. Its more like some of their older games where there was a 3d eviroment you could be around.

>>713211108
i hope at some point we do get to find out what the killing stroke was for the project because it seems like it couldve been a lot of stuff beyond just funding

>>713210951
They're mentally ill and were no longer receiving enough attention.
Also they need to take care of their disabled sick grandma.
Pet also died.

>>713209043 (OP)
WTF

BUT THE HOT BUTTER ICE CREAM

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2133850/Broken_Reality_2000/

my only hope.

>so lazy you can't even make a proper announcement

>>713211108

Things move fast these days if you're addicted to the trend-chasing and so on. Making a project like that seems fun and you get a lot of attention and pats on the back but then you realize that you now have to commit to like ... a year or two of actually doing the legwork and suddenly you don't feel like doing that anymore.

It's easier to just shut it down and then move onto the next project and start it all over again.

>>713209927
Drugs are bad
You can't take them NO

>>713211320
he's tired okay. it's bedtime

>>713211189
I think he lost the sauce. Channeling and invoking that pure late 90s early 00s SOVL isnt something that comes naturally. Hell, I think thats why he wasted so much time making the bullshit fake myspace geocities builder instead of just fitting shit into the hypnodpace codebase thats already there. I think hotdad and all the others were on fire with cool new shit and he wasnt able to write up more oldtech boomer blogposts

>>713211359
Im not even made the games cancelled, anyone else feeling sleepy? Lets all stop talking about it and go to sleep Zzzzzzz.

>>713211442
Zzzzz meatballs... zzzz ahh spaghetti... zzzz... fresh-a ravioli... zzz...

>>713211256
Heat n sip THIS *unzips dick*

>>713209043 (OP)
Damn... I was looking forward to this
This is a major blow to the Christian game dev scene

>The very short version is: We got a budget this time. We tried to plan the game from the top down, more or less, where we kind of knew all the beats that would happen and what expensive things we could afform to film or have made for the game and how much money we could afford to pay a programmer for X amount of time.
>And because money is involved, you kind of have to go by the schedule and I've never successfully made a game based on a design document. It's hard for me to find motivation, like, find motivation to work on anything for a stretch of time and I've not been able to do it this way where I have a design document and then I follow it. I HAVE to like improvise, like in Hypnospace, like I'm pretending to be a character and making stuff, and then following these trails to make new stuff. Things bloom from other things and then it becomes a big hollistic thing at the end. And if I had to explain it to anyone or put it in a design document, I couldn't do it. It just comes like a tree growing over time or something.
>Also, because of how complicated our core features were in this game, the thing I was really excited about, it was called "Oomph", it's like a fake flash. If you think of the Hypnospace Tunezie, it was a music sequencer but you hit like tab and then you go to a visual mode. And so you could tween little animations that are also synced to the music sequencer and then you hit tab to go back to the music. The aesthetics would have been flash-esque and there's a little bit of hypercard in its simplicity too, with a bit of vector graphics. But whatever the case, we had to cut that. My cool Oomph, which was gonna define the whole look and feel of this era, and cutting that was like... Well, what do we have? We have HTML pages, I can do forums... And blogs... But like, but, I knew why we had to kill it, it just wasn't gonna happen.

1/2

He's still supposed to make a new episode for Slayers X at some point in the future

>>713211302
They need to increase the movement speed, the first Broken Reality was a slog to play through because your movement is painfully slow.

>>713211256
fuck you now its going to be stuck in my head for another month

>We just way overscoped, things were so complicated and so fancy and so amazing. There's a spreadsheet reader, you know, there's everything in this game.
>Yeah, almost five years of my life. I mean, I did make Slayers, so, that was a fun diversion, but... This was the big one I had so many hopes for. And there's some cool things you haven't seen, maybe I won't mention them yet, but we'll figure out how to show you them. And the Chowder Man was gonna return. He recorded more music for this game than for Hypnospace. I want to do right by the music, so maybe we'll figure out how to like release their music and promote it in a way that reaches people.
>We were gonna settle on making a little tour game that could show you what we made, but that kind of... We just needed to stop this. Because of money and practical concerns.
>>Maybe I've just been burnt out this whole time, I don't know. I'm sorry, everyone.

2/2

Sounds fair to me. Sometimes creative spark just works like that. What is conducive to making a game, in like regimented hard work, isn't what is always conductive to being the passionate kind of person that can make Hypnospace Outlaw in their own spare time. Big shame, though.

For the record, he specifically said that the publishers and his fellow developers did nothing wrong, and that it was just an issue of him being an odd duck.

>>713210470
If he posts it now he can immediately spend a few blissful hours unconscious and not thinking about his failure instead of all day.

>>713209043 (OP)
NO REFUNDS!

>>713211802
Guy is exclusively on Bluesky btw

>>713210165
4k a month is fuck all

>>713211968
some refunds*

>>713210223
Sounds like he wasted it. He paid programmers but then couldn't do his share of the effort. They bit more than they could chew. I can relate to that. Ambition is an harsh mistress.

>>713209768
he also does react content streams where he talks about jacking off while covering the screen in gifs

>>713211804
>there was gonna be a flash animator you could make music in and tween animations to sync with the music
>basically a microsoft 3d movie maker

>>713210392
>>713212017
Where are you people living? four thousand USD a month lets you live like a king in like 95% of the world.

>>713211906
>sounds fair to me
Hyperinflating on gay features noone fucking asked for in your sequel to geocities SURPRISE ME and falling on your own hyperinflated sword while reeling in patreon bux is fair?
Nah

>>713212290
>actually thats a lot of money if you choose to live somewhere without indoor plumbing

At least there's still Elation for the Wonder Box 6000

>>713210957
This. The vison was amazing, but $4k in patreon money isn't going to pay for any of that unless you really gimp said vision, then what's the point?

It's ultimately better to know when to fold 'em than to just make a half baked game. It is a shame, but that's just how it goes sometimes.

>>713212331
Anon, Hypnospace Outlaw itself was made pretty much entirely out of "useless features" that were there to capture the soul of the game. This was gonna be the same but focused on mid 2000s flash stuff. You take the "gay features noone fucking asked for" and no one would have given a shit about this game.

As for the patreon, apparently they only started it 3 months ago and this guy is going out of his way to refund the past month. So he got to scam people for 2 months at most. Big whoop.

>>713212512
>only 4k a month on my for profit game I intend to sell for money
....

owned

He had a kid shortly after Hypnospace came out. My guess is that shifted his worldview from looking back fondly on his past to looking forward to a future for his kid.

>>713212512
he literally says in the video that he's going to start making apps for kids or something and that it's not going to make him any money. the idea that he just can't afford to finish it makes no sense

>>713212653
In the video he says that he's thinking of pivoting to children's entertainment

>>713212653
He says in the video that he wants to make games for kids because he feels like there aren't enough good ones of those, so that's definitely part of it.

>>713212653
having kids? in THIS economy?

>>713212290
That's decent income for a solo dev to live off, but not so good if he's also needing to pay employees

>>713212290
For one person to live in a shit place sure, but this is a team of at least 6 people so that needs to be split, and if they have an offices thats another chunk taken out of that money

>>713212792
Theres plenty if you look hard enough.
>t.father of 2
Gcompris, the old jumpstart games, literally every super nintendo game

>>713212524
That anon doesn't play video games, and is brown, and he gets very upset when people talk about video games he can't play because he's a poor underage brown getting groomed by discordtrannies.

>>713212564
Anon you can only go so far into the negatives before banks start demanding money

>>713211302
Im more looking forward to this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2684630/Endacopia/

>>713212290
>>713212842
and trying to be a big sequel to Hypnospace. That kinda project would need like 5-6 digit number amounts of money.

>>713212863
anon while i dont disagree with you about that. isnt it a bit worrying you need to go back 30 years to find decent children's entertainment, edutainment and enrichment?

>>713210697
N-n-no one?
Damn.
Guess Hypnospace Outlaw really is one of a kind.

>>713212960
In the same way it worries me that there are barely any decent games for anyone in the last 20 years?
My 6 year old plays tetris on my PSVita, you think she gives a shit that it came out 10+ years ago?

>>713211804
Sounds like a project management failure combined with apathy or laziness.

Inexcusable when you're taking people's money to deliver an advertised product, imo.

t. project manager in tech

>mfw finished first game very recently, ready for more only to be denied.

>>713212417
Indoor plumbing comes in at around the $400+ mark so anon is right, devs cutting and running.

So what the hell happened to all the Hypnospace money? The guy must have made multiple millions, I don't get how someone can just make a lifetime of security disappear in like 5 years

>>713212792
Thats actually a good thing, there are fuck all edutainment games anymore while the 90s and early 2000s were fucking swamped by them. Probably better to have that shit than them getting groomed on roblox. Even kid focused games have shut down their servers and barely any have replaced them

>Another eternal vaporware to strike from my wishlist
grim
next will probably be Compound Fracture

>>713213152
>he doesnt know about Iready

>>713213138
The guy doesn't need to be destitute and homeless to realize that he ran out of game development money.

Very sad, but deep down I think I knew this was coming. A year or two ago he made a post admitting that he hadn't touched Dreamsettler since he announced it and he was having a hard time working on it. He instead chose to make a DOOM/Duke Nukem clone based on Zane. That was a bad sign to me. Seems like the success of Hypnospace gave him a burst of inspiration to create a sequel and announce it, and then after he announced it and actually had to make it, it all fell apart

deeply disappointing, was one of those games i'd look up news on every once in a while

>>713213278
>one thing exists
>this replaces the thousands that used to exist before it
nah kids need a fuck more than one option

>>713213289
Announcing a game before you even know it can work is a big mistake
Why market a concept that's entirely in your head?

>>713211804
>>713211906
damn its rare that devs learn the scope creep problem after TWO successful games

>>713213405
Alright bud, good luck with neoFreddy Fish

Hypnospace is forever going to be one of a kind.
What a damn shame, fuck I'm actually upset.

>>713209043 (OP)

Is Slayers X good, at least?

>>713210775
he spent a lot of time making Slayers X, which sucks because I thought that I was supporting Dreamsettler development by buying into that.

>>713213510
Eh

>>713213557
It sounds more like he specifically did Slayers X because he wanted to find a distraction, kind of like when I technically feel like I want to finish a game in my backlog but then I go look for newly released games that I may want to play instead.

>>713213408
Well in this case, he was just taking a concept that already worked and doing it again. Instead of 90s internet like Hypnospace, it was going to be 2000's internet. I can see how he'd feel like
>I've already done this before. I know I can do it again, so I'll just go ahead and announce it ahead of time
before even planning anything. Not saying it isn't a big mistake, but regardless, I understand it

>>713213138
handling money is a skill unironically, people that aren't used to it lose it in increasingly retarded ways
he likely put too many eggs in the basket and hired too many people and overpaid them

>>713213510
No. /v/‘s love of this series is pure astroturf. Both it and Slayers X are total Civvianni nerd culture gentrifier garbage full of overtly abusive left-wing politics and ironic Garfield pipe strip bullshit. Set up a Windows 95 VM with 86Box and play some of the games stuff like this and Dream BBQ pretend to rip off instead; they’re free and a lot more fun.

>>713213510
its decent but it also has a lot of intentionally shit game design like weird level layouts and some weapons feeling like shit. its perfectly playable and i enjoyed it but its kinda hard to recommend unless you want to play zane's shitty childhood doom wad

>>713213813
ignore this retard, he's a schizo that has been spamming every hypnospace thread with his mental illness

>>713213813
in ENGLISH, doc

>>713213813
fuck you hypnospace is great
but yeah slayers x is only carried by it's fumes and is well below average

>>713213510
it's a perfectly competent boomer shooter and the concept is kind of funny but that's pretty much it

>>713213152
No point pandering to a shrinking demographic.

>>713213813
Never played Slayers X but Hypnospace Outlaw is pure kino
>B-B-B-B-BUT MY LEFTISM!!! MUH WOKE!!!
You're gonna have to accept at some point that not all of /v/ got mindbroken by politics in 2012-2014. Leftists can make good games. In fact, they do it more often than right-wingers do, unfortunately.

>>713213138
>>713213797
this
its so easy for people to think "we have a lot of money" means "we have infinite money" and your cash burn can easily get way out of hand

>>713214115
Cause right wingers predominantly are in jobs that are way more secure than being a video game developer
It is what it is

>>713211108
you can't buy food with motivation anon
they realized they didn't have the money to do what they wanted to do, it sucks but at the end of the day not being bankrupt takes priority over making a video game

>>713214115
The left and the right are the same demographic and I’m not going to play or enjoy games that come from either of them. Get raped.

>>713213813
>overtly abusive left-wing politics
What? Are you being abused by the politics of a videogame?

>>713213510
if you like the Build Engine style of retro FPS you'l probably get a kick out of it

>>713213813
this post smells like curry

>>713213813
hypnospace outlaw is one of the only explicitly christian video games there is you faggot larper

I wonder how much of Hypnospace Outlaw was a commentary on it's own development cycle.

Dylan being representative of Tholen being a creative with more ideas than sense, driving himself to finish a project and trying to look past the things that just weren't working. Then, R3eckoning being a manifestation of what Tholen actually thought of the resulting product of Hypnospace Outlaw. Certainly frames the finale of the game as being Tholen making himself wrap up the game and send it off with what little was working satisfactorily, and feeling sorry about all the time he wasted practically screwing around.

>>713214189
Get a dayjob then, youre siphoning money from people with much worse living situations than you

>>713214269
2deep5me

stop fucking responding to him he's been doing this shit to every goddamn hypnospace thread for at least over a year by now
god this place sucks, mods dont give a fuck unless someone makes a thread that they personally dont like

>>713214345
I don't mind jannies allowing culture war threads on the catalog, but it would be so nice if they did something about the schizos that inevitably try to ruin threads that are meant to discuss vidya with culture war bullshit.

>>713214301
good bait

>>713209043 (OP)
Wasn't Vargskelethor Joel supposed to be voicing someone in this game?

>>713214263
Why is he exclusively on Bluesky, then?

>>713213813
>7 replies instantly
Knocked it out of the park, you did
I suppose they’ll have to post more Anticapitalist Gumshoe Gooper (tm) memes to counteract your sick burn

There were NOT that many Christians on the internet in the 90s

>>713214456
>its another gay lib who stands for some nebulous principle of morality takes advantage of retards through donation sites episode

Jay had a kid and burnt out after Hypnospace. That's the whole reason he made Slayer, to do something simple and short. He also took like a year long break from Dreamsettler when he had his kids while his programmers were doing all the technical OS stuff. There was a tweet where he basically admitted he didn't start any of the writing and didn't feel passion for the 2000 internet compared to the 90's. Him being eccentric and mood/emotion-driven instead of a serious professional is what led to Hypnospace being so unique but the guy is clearly not meant to be in charge of a larger project with multiple employees. I hope he comes back with a smaller project at some point.

>>713209043 (OP)
I don't understand, they made two games so you'd think they would understand how to manage a game's budget and development priorities
But if I'm getting this right they don't even have a demo? What the hell? I just refuse to believe this was a budget issue because both games were successful and he even has a seemingly successful patreon

I feel really bad for the team around him. The programmers building all the new features and all the musicians making new music like Hot Dad.
Judging from his Twitter/Bluesky history he basically didn't do any work for over a year on the creative side of things while still paying for two programmers which he just kept busy by having them create all those features he was unable to create actual content for. Really sad.

>>713214528
Elon Musk is The Anti-Christ.

>>713214345
>WAAAA WA WA WEE WOO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN MISTREATED DON’T LIKE ME INJECTING MY PROPAGANDIST LEFTJOCK SADISM INTO NICHE NERD COMMUNITIES A BOO HOO HOO

>>713214585
if your living situation is so terrible then why are you donating to patreons? again, good bait

>>713214620
He was just following the vibes and it was luck his two games were good. He tried the same formula here but with a bigger scope and failed.

>>713214620
victim of early success, the dude had a bunch of succesful small games where his fly by the seat of your pants style worked

>>713209043 (OP)
Twenty-five...you let me down...you let me down down down down down down down down down...

>>713214345
Have you truly made it if your game doesn't have a needlessly obsessed and angry schizo on /v/?

>>713214637
That's fucked, but I imagine he was just under so much pressure to perform creatively that he just shut down and avoided it.
Surely the programmers can find another writer and use what they have to make their own version?

>>713214727
Not me, other people, I dont promise poor retards a product for just " a cup of coffee a day" just to fleece them. Taking advantage of the retarded is morally wrong

>>713209043 (OP)

No fucking way

>>713210697
>>713213056
None easily come to mind since it's all Vinnyslop bait-and-switch horror

>>713210678

>>713214845
Mentally ill attention whores should always be shunned and ignored.

>>713214853
Yeah but now Hotdad is gonna have to release all his music for youtube pennies with no game to bolster their viewership

>>713214857
a fool and their money...
Why is that my problem?

>>713214637
Yeah, this is insane considering how long it's been in development.

>>713214972
the money's put to better use paying for jay's kid's diapers than this guys diapers

>>713215095
wow they got literally scammed lol

>>713209043 (OP)
Aw. That sucks. I was looking forward to that.
Pic unrelated.

>>713213138
This fag has never seen what happens to anyone who wins the lottery.

>>713215056
Its your problem when you pretend you have any authority to measure a persons morality. Go on Bluesky and circlejerk how good of a person you are while you siphon money from the mentally ill....

>>713210697
There are a few games that try to emulate a virtual desktop environment
>Last Call BBS - emulates a era a little older then Hypnospace. More a sandbox game then Hypnospace is.
>Hacknet - lots of terminal-puzzle games in this sub-genre.
>https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8500 - it's actually a interactive microgame in webgl.

Also, there is a lot of programming puzzle games that use this aesthetic.
>Shenzhen I/O
>Comet 64
>TIS-1000

>>713214853
>Surely the programmers can find another writer and use what they have to make their own version?
Uuuh lol

>>713212290
5k is like a 60k a year job.
youd get a little over 4k after taxes.
60k is an entry level salery for many jobs.

>>713215095
>i never started
Thats fucked up

>>713215267
>zacktronics games
But Im fucking stupid

>>713215083
I relate to him so much, bros

>>713215413
You don't have to be smart to beat Zachtronics games.
You only have to be smart if you're going for leaderboard scores, so just don't do that, that's lame anyway.

>>713214620
It sounds like the big thing is that the idea of re-inventing Adobe Flash + Windows Movie Maker was more involved and expensive than he realized it would be.
Then just releasing the blog/art/music content for you to browse through without any gameplay felt like a copout to him that he'd rather just wash his hands of. Personally I think I would try to pivot to releasing the content they have as a DLC/official mod pack for Hypnospace.

>>713214853
Anon the guy had zero fucking idea on what the game was even supposed to be about. He just wasted everyone's time on shit like minigames and simulating excel and windows movie maker

>>713215557
>gumshoe gooper

>>713215557
Its just more john blow faggotry
>BRO I MADE A GAME WITH ITS OWN GARBAGE COLLECTOR
you dont have to make flash and a spreadsheet reader, and a DAW, you just need to make shit that looks like flash, and a spreadsheet reader, and a DAW. Players arent going to give a shit that you made a fully functioning Operating system when you can make the illusion of a fully functioning operating system at 1/1000th the programming costs.
>oh boy I cant wait to program a functioning start menu in C
>100000000 lines of code later
Vs
>If BUTTON CLICK SPAWN WINDOW WITH SHIT
>IF SHIT IN WINDOW IS CLICK LOAD BULLSHIT SPREADSHEET READER WINDOW THAT LETS YOU TYPE IN BOXES AND THATS ABOUT IT

fuuuuuck

i mean the movie maker alone might be worth teh game's price. if it's as good as early 2OOOs stuff i could make some AMVs on it

>>713213056
shrimpOS

>>713215745
I kinda had this worry from the announcement when there was no mention of being an enforcer again or similar story, and that it was just going hard on being an aimless exploration of a fake OS and programs.

>>713215095
>there's no actual 'game' because i never even started making it
how shameless do you have to be to even type this

>>713215970
Cheers, I'll try this.

Clean it up jannies

>>713213056
Mainlining.

>>713215961
I don't know, if all you want to do is drag shit onto a timeline then you can use everything from Capcut to, pft, Blender, free video editors aren't special anymore.

>>713216274
>>713210017
pichula

>>713209043 (OP)
they realized how edgy 00's internet was and didn't want to actually make that game because they're a bunch of basedlennials

>>713210697
>>713213056
Windowz 98 NetTowns

>>713210017
>>713216274
ENFORCERS ENFORCERS ENFORCERS

this is the only game I wanted to play before I die of beefbrain

>>713215267
that scp thing is the most trooncore thing i've subjected myself to in a while
>cynthia
>ada
wonder where he got those fucking names from
as with many things, i'm both impressed and disgusted with these autistic men

Fuck. I hope there's still a possibility for a Slayers X 2 at least.

>>713215265
its time to take your pills
everyone applauds your impotent rage over what other people do with their money though, I bet jesus is giving you a big gold star.

>>713209043 (OP)
Why does this read like a suicide note

>>713209043 (OP)
oh for fucks sake

>>713213056
>>713215970
you should also check out Frog Days, or at least its soundtrack
https://youtu.be/7wKjPbHFX4I?list=RD7wKjPbHFX4I
it's forever unfinished but what's there is really something

Damn, devastating news. Fake internets are so rare in vidya and a whole one dedicated to it was a great idea. I hope GTA6 has one...

>>713216886
have you seen the video? he's crashing out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH3UbgEWBxg

>>713210697
It's kind of funny to think that there's an actual audience now for DEREK SMART'S DESKTOP COMMANDER

>>713216886
He knows he's killing his career and any good will he built up.

>>713211302
I remember the first game getting pretty bad by the end, but looking forward to this

>>713217146
and half that audience wasn't even born yet when the trailer for DEREK SMART'S DESKTOP COMMANDER was made

>>713209043 (OP)
God DAMMIT.
Hypnospace was my GOTY of 2019. This was one of the few upcoming releases I had any hopes for.

>>713217425
everything is going to shit, dragons dogma 2 came out and it was an unfinshed mess, games iv waited for years for are getting cancelled and its way too hot to play anything right now anyway

I wish the programmers could cut the unfinished bloat and find a writer.

This is truly the worst timeline....FUCK

I'm actually fucking upset about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pBaaknLGqg

devastating
is this really not a pr stunt

>>713210852
They changed the release date from 2025 to "coming soon" recently. And took down the trailer. It loads nothing on the wishlist screen.

Sounds more like it wasn't even started

>>713218020
People are supposed to be getting refunded for their last contributions to Patreon and he's advising people to turn off subscriptions. It's over.

>>713218079
Yeah, kind of a dick move to his programmers.

can't find the words to describe exactly how over it is right now
we may truly never be back after this

Honestly my day is ruined.

Can one FUCKING GOOD THING HAPPEN IN THIS YEAR FUCK THIS WORLD
GOD

Hypnospace was that one game that felt like it was made specifically for me.

>>713215095
>I never started making the fake internet or puzzles or characters or anything
>but there are a bunch of super neat minigames
This is about as misguided as game development can get.

This was the only game I was actively excited to play in the future, I am beyond upset.

Dont shed a tear for this fucking idiot. He invested in crypto in 2021 of course hes bad with money.

I feel bad for all the patrons but i have zero sympathy for him.

>>713215413
You don't need to be a computer scientist to beat Opus Magnum, Infinifactory or ExaPunks

That last one might surprise you when you look into it, but trust me, it's true

>>713209043 (OP)
thank god I didn't know a thing about this game, I just thought "cool, more hypnospace" and never checked back on it.

But damn, if I were the guy I would hire a creative and try to do something with what he already has

>>713210470
kek

>>713211227
>My life is so fucking shit
>I better stop the free money im getting, that'll fix things.

>>713209043 (OP)
>No half-handed cloud leitmotif.
That's like, -10 soul points to the whole project. It was doomed to fail desu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q930zbAUPqg

what unmedicated ADHD does to a mfer

>>713220325
He doesn't want to scam people. That's why he was open before about the adversities of the project: >>713215083

>>713218975
Don't really care about him so much (beyond normal human empathy), but that in this day and age it was one of the few video games I was actually looking forward to.
I've been an internet rat since 1989, and first found Ishkur's Guide to EDM because I used to shitpost on the digitally imported forums.
And then playing hypnospace outlaw, and seeing pic related.
Sure, it was nostalgia, but god damn it was some legit nostalgia, and I really don't think anyone who wasn't there at the time can really get just how deep some of those cuts go.

>>713215095
Should i murder him? I've seen him at the market a couple of times and my life is kind of over anyway so i wouldn't mind ending up in jail. The fact that he is being so shameless about it makes me thing it's a bit of a signal that i should murder him.

>>713220736
My man, take a tolerance break from the internet.

>>713209043 (OP)
I'm so fucking disappointed. This was one of my most anticipated games of all time after playing hypnospace. I hope they release as much unfinished content as they can and/or shelve the idea and/or find an angel investor. I need my chowder man fix.

>>713212290
Anon i make over 4k a month and i definitely dont live like a king lmfao

>>713220736
>Guy actually admits his faults, doesn't try scamming people and moves on with his life
>This is murder-worthy
Meds, bro

All of you anon excited for this should have been subed to the patreon just sayin

>>713221159
I was and am.

>>713221159
honestly first i've even heard there was a patreon

For me, it was the Sport Anthem song on the Trennis website

>take money
>don't even start making your game
loving every laugh

>>713212290
>saar do the needful for the indian coder
fuck off

>>713221159
the patreon was only out for a few months and in his words it was "last-ditch"

I guess you could say he let us down

>word salad schizobabble game with unclear purpose or planning makes dev fold and turn the entire project into woe-is-me pity party

>>713213813
Thats some cool word vomit you got there, too bad im not reading it

>>713221721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_L6ysOSEb0

>>713221159
Listen if you want me to invest in your game I want to see a prospectus and estimated ROI.
And obviously, money wasn't the issue.
And honestly this is a game I played for free on a gamepass trial, and I made it a point to go and buy it at full price on gog because I liked the game so much and it hit such a specific niche with a small dev where I feel like my purchase is more meaningful.
A big AAA dev really doesn't need my money, more importantly I don't think they've earned my money OR my time. But if you make a game, even if its really short and sweet but fun or interesting or unique and not coming from a big bloated dipshit publisher/dev I'm happy to fork over some money, when its available for purchase.
But I got bills to pay and mouths to feed. I'm not giving some person I don't know money (especially not a recurring donation) because they said they might someday make a video game if I'm lucky.

He seems genuinely upset with himself in the video, this isn't some cynical "take the money and run" thing.

KEEP ME IN YOUR GRAVEYARD
KICK ME OUT OF HEAVEN
DROP ME INTO FIRE
NOTHING LEFT FOR ME

>>713221938
Yea he's upset because he blew all that money on simulating windows movie maker on his game instead of the actual game

Justice for Gooper.

>>713221275
https://youtu.be/GLBKObE4iYs?list=PLFXsJvwJnizV1DQI5sZ0JudZCrm6i2ZqN

Let's face it.... Zane sucks. He's probably ugly in real life so he has to go online and be an A**HOLE to everyone. His mom probably drives him to school. What a motherflippin little moran.

Download this image if you agree that Zane sucks it.

>>713221938
Maybe he should've tried making a game instead of a schizo simulator for a handful of "fans".

This is fishtank-tier game developing.

>>713221938
he sounds like needs to be put on suicide watch unironically

>>713222164
Sounds like something an AI can shit out in half a second.

>>713217975
>follow me on bluesky
Any and all interest evaporated.

>>713215095
Classic indie game dev trap. Get stuck spinning your tires developing systems and frameworks for making things instead of just making things. That and scope creep

>>713210697
Roottrees Are Dead has a similar"fake internet" thing, but it's way less robust. The game is very good if you liked Return of the Obra Dinn though. You basically scroll through fake sites and articles to piece together a big genealogical mystery. Base game is free on itch.

>>713212924
>still no news
is it over?

>>713221938
I mean, that was obvious from the get go when he cancelled the Patreon 3 months in. If he just wanted the money, he simply wouldn't say shit and let the money trickle in until it eventually dissipated.

One day im gonna open /v/ and its gonna be Silksong

What's even left to be excited for?
Phoenotopia devs have already quit game development after the financial failure that game was, Itsuno's game studio with a bunch of legendary japs closed down, Shadow Hearts' successor devs got scammed by a trannylator and are currently undergoing a lawsuit to get their money back and I've already given up Heart Forth Alicia too

>>713221278
The patreon was open for 3 months and he's refunded the last month. So this "take the money and run grift" made a grand total $8000 in 5 years while also burning the profits from his released games.

good, hypnospace was just artificial nostalgia anyway

>>713211083
pizza tower and garbanzo quest succeed, why.

>>713222198
>tfw you weren't zane
>you were brassy kid

>>713222814
I'm excited for uhmmmmm Gimmiko.

>>713209043 (OP)

>>713222814
>Phoenotopia devs have already quit game development after the financial failure that game was
They haven't you fucking retard, they already have a steam page for their next game

>>713223226
Corey is way cooler than that loser Zane

>>713223226
I think most of us fall somewhere on the spectrum between those two

>>713209043 (OP)
>yoinks the money from boomers
>leaves
ahah based, get fucked nostalgiafags

>>713222164
no fuck you I just finished listen to the rotor tapes I can't go down another klyfta wormhole

I have no idea why he wouldn't develop the actual base game/web page shit first and then add whatever minigames second as he goes along.

>>713215095
>People pissed he didn't have the stories yet
Given this style of game its not that suprising. You need the 'fake' internet first because you can start adding mysteries to it.

>>713211906
>Sounds fair to me. Sometimes creative spark just works like that.
No that's fucking cope.
Creativity is hard, yeah. But you can't just go
>eh, the spark wasn't there, creativity is hard
That's not a creativity problem, it's a discipline problem. You're meant to push through it anyway, and the creative spark might ignite partway through the process. Or maybe it won't in which case you'll have a sub par or shit product, but even in this scenario you'll at least have a product.
And in the case where the spark is reignited, then you might have that great product you always aimed for anyway, or something close to it. Or at least closer than no fucking product at all.


I am fully aware that creativity is difficult. But I still find people like this infuriating.
It's not fair. It's immature and undisciplined. It is excusable for a child but not an adult.

>>713221938
U r right we should giv him more free money for being a fucking retard nigger so he can stop being so le sad :(

>>713222814
for me it's travelling at night

>>713223551
while I think he obviously went about it a bad way, you can't discount the fact of how many websites were basically entirely built on flash from the era he's trying to recreate

BWL

>>713222527
2025, year of the Spoony.

>>713209043 (OP)
FUCK I was really looking forward to this. Hypnospace Outlaw was special.
Dreamsettler must have been too ambitious.
Well at least the dev is being brutally honest instead of continuing to string people along like a lot of vaporware devs (coughgrummzcough).

>>713209043 (OP)
This video seems like a cry for help. Dude is clearly struggling on some emotional level, looks strung the fuck out too.

>>713223281
I legitimately wasn't aware, thank you, you've made my day

>>713210697
Not really a fake internet thing, but more of investigating the data on a broken device and piecing together what the setting is like and what happened to the device.
https://corru.observer/

A warning though, it's not finished yet and it attracted THAT kind of fanbase, even if the game doesn't pay attention to that kind of thing at all.

>>713223732
>Disco Elysium inspired
>set in post-WWII Europe

Wish Lucas Pope was still making real games instead of shit for a literally who handheld.

>>713209043 (OP)
Goddamnit

>>713222814
>What's even left to be excited for?
Silksong
Dice Gambit
Word Play
One Way Heroics 2
Bananza

>>713224125
>One Way Heroics 2
Is this real?

>>713223595
I'm not surprised that a bulk of the writing would come late so you can think up what kinds of people and situations would develop around the other content, and then branch off , crossover, and bounce characters against each other.
Though I would've expected them to have some form of early outlines or rough concepts for characters/sites that had popped into his head over time.

>>713222814
>Rogue Trader Lex Imperialis
>Nivalis
>Total Chaos
>Showa American Story
>Dark Auction
>Donkey Kong Bonanza
>Metroid Prime 4
>Stranger Than Heaven
>Romeo is a Dead Man
>Artis Impact
>Quartet
>Silent Hill F
>Resident Evil 9
>Deltarune Chapter 5 to 7
>Digimon Time Stranger
>Berserk B.I.T.S
>Neo Junk City
>Outrider Mako
>Pathologic 3
>Holstin
>Outward 2
>Catechesis
>Afterlife Pahrmaceuticals
>Abyss X Zero
>The Big Catch
>Megaman X Corrupted
I'm sure there's a lot more

>>713224125
World Play felt kinda meh.
Competently made but didn't understand the appeal of Balatro.

>>713224523
That probably would have been a good idea, that way the knew some sites they had to add.

>>713222814
Deltarune.

>>713224524
>He thinks any of those will turn out good

>>713224370
>Is this real?
Yes.
https://silversecond.net/contents/game/OneWayHeroics2/

>>713224740
>>>>>>>>deckbuilder
WHY

>>713222814
>What's even left to be excited for?
Cotton Rock with You!
Cotton Reboot! High Tension!

Two whole new games about my wife! I'm excited!

>>713224731
I get everything else but why wouldn't Rogue Trader turn out to be good? Owlcat has been consistent so far and this expansion has the same staff working on it

>>713222814
Rune Fencer Illyia.

>>713224878
no fairy no buy

>>713225124
Standalone Silk will be playable in Rock with You judging by the footage they've shown, and hopefully she won't be Exa exclusive.
I'm not sure if High Tension will have standalone Silk like its predecessor, it wasn't mentioned in Shooters Fes like Dark Cotton, but it's still possible.

>Free flowing creative type gets broken by investor controlled timelines
Tale as old as time. The second he brought up never using design docs in the same breath as "investors" the picture painted itself.

>>713224740
>picture related
Man. What bullshit.
Forcing him to recreate his entire dev blog stretching back to the development of wolfrpg and even further back. Because FC2 all of a sudden decided not to like dlsite and stuff?

>>713222814
>What's even left to be excited for?
whatever's in store that is still not announced?

>>713222883
>the citadel
>cunny
>he doesn't know

>>713209043 (OP)
I can't believe this ended up being a scam, I haven't felt this scammed since the new studio made by old members of Looking Glass launched their first game, I don't know how they became so shit

>>713212017
>>713210392
pay me 4 grand a month or you're a poor retard.

>>713227402
i am a poor retard and i wish i had 4k a month

>>713222883
I spent 5 minutes cackling at this image. Kino shitpost. So good I'm not even gonna nitpick it.

>>713223614
>Make a shit game right now even though you completely lost all passion and drive for everything you wanted to do about it to begin with
Nah

>>713227756
If you're a solo dev maybe you can think like that.
But do you even realize how fucking egotistical it is to think like you when you're part of a larger team?
Or if people have already given you money?

>>713227864
Two whole months of Patreon, big whoop.
And he paid all those people for the amount of time they worked.
Blow it out your ass.

>>713228337
>Two whole months of Patreon, big whoop.
What about all the other devs who worked on the game?
And maybe you just think it's morally just to scam the publisher?

>>713228583
>What about all the other devs who worked on the game?
They got paid for their work, retard.
>And maybe you just think it's morally just to scam the publisher?
It's not a scam. He wanted to do the game, then realized he didn't have it in him. The project failed. Any self-respecting publisher has cancelled projects in its history.

>>713209043 (OP)
gaming is fucking dead. im gonna kill myself

>>713228723
nta but they scammed the publisher by not doing any substantial progress into the game despite being many years into development. It's basically the same situation as YandereDev, System Shock 3 or that Black Panther game.

>>713213813
Wtf? Where are the left-wing politics anywhere in Hypnospace? The dude’s a Christian. Are you talking about the Gumshoe Gooper shit? Are you schizophrenically viewing the whole game as a scathing criticism of capitalism, the way an unhinged leftist would?

>>713229102
See the replies to this post >>713222814, there's still plenty to look forward to

>This was one of the only games I was looking forward to.
I was a fool to ever hope for anything.

>>713229178
While Jay himself said he wanted to keep politics out of the game, and out of Dreamsettler, there is a hidden page in Hypnospace that's very pro-socialist and pro-union.

>>713209043 (OP)
Good riddence troonslop

>>713224524
>The Big Diaper

literally the only game i was looking forward to for years... i get why it was cancelled, but i was really looking forward to messing around in the early 2000s internet again...

>>713229436
From what I remember that page seems a bit tongue-in-cheek given how feverishly pro-unions it was.
I think they ended up befriending one of the old people who didn't like them?
I could be completely wrong.

>>713229689
Literally what's wrong the big catch? I liked the demo

>>713229764
One of the devs is a diaper furfag. I personally don't care if it stays out of the game and its fun, but culture war warriors try to tortanic everything these days.

What's the most painful cancelation?
https://youtu.be/kInzteQhbf8

>>713229697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-g5-Gc87Gg&list=RDM-g5-Gc87Gg

>>713210697
Dum-dum kind of, you have to finagle your way through a goofy OS by doing tasks similar to Hypnospace to solve a mystery. No horror slop or anything related.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1131530/DumDum/

>bluesky

>>713230930
Twitter forcing you to make an account to view tweets is gay, bluesky doesn't (yet) so I am fine with it.

>>713210436
It's likely he's burnt out because he's under the stress of putting it out on 4k a month. Other anons are laughing about this but that is just not enough even to do a "simple" game anymore.

Well, that fucking sucks. Hypnospace is one of the few modern game franchises that I genuinely love.

>>713231010
On the other hand, Bluesky barely has worthwhile exclusive content/users. Pick your poison.

>>713217070
It will, but… it’s 2020’s social media tiktok Twitter internet.

>>713231215
I thought of getting bluesky to follow all the artists I like but then i found out most of the public block lists take out anything related to anime, figurines or VNs which means the content I'm interested has nothing to gauge post popularity.
TLDR: barely has worthwhile exclusive content/users

>>713231458
Phew, good thing it didn't come out while Trump was president!

>>713231215
People are slowly migrating to it, unlike all the other twitter clones which flopped and died after a week.

>>713231919
People are literally fucking off back to twitter because their bluecry metrics are terrible and the purity spiraling of the lefties results in frequent cannibalism lmao

>>713222318
Jay has a bluesky account too. I'd say all the pink + mascot is more concerning.

Shame. But why was it announced so early if all they had at the time was an idea?

>>713232369
Same as everything on Patreon, to milk money

>>713232431
The patreon was made 4 months ago, and he's refunding the previous month.
The game was 'in development' for years.

>>713232031
i love how r/games still bans twitter links
they're so butthurt about the election
eternal leftist derriere devastation

>>713232524
That was noble of him.

>>713232597
Yet if twitter screenshot threads were banned here, board quality would increase.
Interesting how things work.

>>713223961
I couldn't give a fuck if it was Gone Home inspired, I'm just happy that AK is finally going to try and deliver his writing through some kind of actual game instead of some sort of plate spinning timer babysitting sim.

I hate the internet now, bros. Can we just make this world real?

>>713229432

Post your desktops in memorial

>>713233062
already did >>713209686

>>713232757
it's funny that most of the subreddits with twitter link bans are still ok with twitter screenshots

death

>>713233493
its funny how you go to reddit enough to know that

>>713212960
he'd have a point if he didn't let his kids get hooked on games at all
he's just a "be like me" dad

>only refunding 1 month of patreon subscriptions
lmao, what about the other 3 months you scammed retards out of money?

>>713214263
He thinks the game is "whitewashing the old internet" because no one says nigger or faggot in it.
He doesn't get that that's not really the point, because he has crippling autism.

>good... it was woke because... dev is on bluesky (never mind that hes been an outspoken christcuck for years)
>it was a scam because... he took 4k a month for two months on patreon and offering refund for the third month (never mind that he burned his own money for five years)
you people are so mindbroken by tortanic concord bullshit holy shit

>>713235325
ok what about the 8k that he didnt refund

>lol sorry guys, we got all the art, programming, and music done, but when it came to actually making the game i got bored!!! bye!!!
so what's the dev's plans to continue making money after this because i don't see anyone being retarded enough to dump money into his next project considering he's revealed himself to be a quitter grifter.

>>713209043 (OP)
Thank fucking god i pirated hypnospace... if i knew my money was just gonna go to the void ill be so fucking livid.

>>713235884
Edutainment vidya

>>713209043 (OP)
Every single response btw is troon hug box shit, too why do people feel so happy to flush money away??

>>713209043 (OP)
Im actually this fucking close to killing myself
Hypnospace is easily in my top 3 games ever

>>713236056
Don't kill yourself over a game, make your own vidya

>took the money and ran

>>713236056
have kids and buy Jay's edutainment games in 6 years

>>713215267
Uplink is still better than Hacknet

>>713222427
The last news was seven months ago and it was basically just "fuck off and let me code man"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONU-buMNOk

>>713223614
>>713227756
If you only ever work on things you're 100% inspired to do you will never accomplish anything significant.

I had no idea a sequel was in the works, but that's a bummer. What's going to happen to Gumshoe Gooper bros?

>>713236629
baffling how there's still not a single hacking sim(lite) as good as Uplink all these years later
hackmud is interesting but it's too much like work, sometimes you just want to LARP as hackerman by clicking on buttons really fast

>>713237093
>>baffling how there's still not a single hacking sim(lite) as good as Uplink all these years later
Onlink?

>>713237482
That's a mod of Uplink, it doesn't really count.

>>713237591
Well I wanted to recommend it anyway, but you're right, Uplink is still the GOAT.

>>713237482
I mean that's cheating, it's just a really elaborate Uplink mod. Still good though.

>>713223232
I promise that it won't get cancelled and will come out this year
t. gimmiko dev

>>713211936
This. As a living failure, this is the optimal strategy.

>>713210697
Welcome To The Game 1 and 2 are horror games about going through Teh Deep Web.

>>713236629
>>713237093
Is this game as inaccessible as it looks?

>>713238810
Uplink? Nah. It's got some 2000s jank but it's not that hard to get into.

>>713209043 (OP)
Based
Christcucks get what they deserve LMAOOOO

>>713209043 (OP)
>I need to go to bed so I'm going to keep the text portion of this brief
>did excellent work and are brilliant coders and they'll need work soon
>there still wasn't any gameplay or even a fake internet to see so it's mostly minigames, music, and video content
>I am offering refunds for the most recent Patreon payment (sorry, I can't afford more than that)
Literally money stolen without ANY gameplay to even show.

>>713238810
that's the genius of Uplink, it looks like incomprehensible hackerman bullshit but in practice it's a pretty straightforward spinning-plates puzzle game with some fun thematic gimmicks
really sells the fantasy without requiring intense autism to figure out

>>713209043 (OP)
Can't people sue this dev?

>>713240279
No.

ALL MY HYPNOCOINS ARE WORTHLESS NOW!!

>>713240595
Not even their publisher can sue them?

>>713238929
ANOTHER VICTORY FOR SCIENCE
ATHEISM FOREVER

and nothing of value was lost

>>713231919
2 more weeks

I legitimately feel sad. The first game was filled to the brim with soul.

How do you make the templates, minigames, and get all the art, then get too fucking lazy to actually make any webpages? Is this guy retarded? You have a majority of the fucking assets and code done just hire a writer and fire everyone else.

>>713244120
I really don't understand it either, why can't he pass off the assets to someone who cares about finishing the game?

>>713239123
Not to mention, it's basically over once you figure out the "trick" which is the first hop being that once place with garbage security.
Nothing more funny than hacking a bank in the first ten minutes.

>>713212290
I live in Portugal and my 4k after tax isn't nearly enough when the fucking rent is 1.7k.

They should make a game where you're a rogue AI hacking from device to device. I remember a game like that but I stopped playing once the pirated build had a bug that kept you from moving from a roomba or something.

>>713244675
Duskers?

>>713209043 (OP)
are you fucking kidding me

https://youtu.be/CF0_hgW3ssU

>>713244706
Midnight Protocol

>>713244943
Ohh, that one.
That reminds me, I vaguely recall they added a real-time mode.

>>713244120
Sounds less like he's too lazy to do it, and more like he feels too... stuck? Hypnospace Outlaw's development was pretty freeform, Jay was pretty open about development. Originally it was gonna be about the Outlaw minigame with the player being an Enforcer that was gonna catch "bad guys" online with a few pages included but as he developed it, he realized it didn't make much sense and he had more fun writing the pages so he changed the game to be about the fake internet instead, with Outlaw only showing up a few times for plot reasons.

Dreamsettler having the concept and all these assets already in place means he has less room to experiment, combined with expectations and him sounding really bummed out that he couldn't make that Flash clone work out, makes it sound like he burned out before he even began properly working on it.

Indie devs really thought the lockdown-boost would last forever and spent like crazy.

>>713209043 (OP)
That video made me just feel sad for the dude, he seems genuinely ambitious but has some kind of 'tism mental block stopping him from putting ideas on that paper and I bet many aspiring indie devs must relate to him on that or something

>>713209043 (OP)
And here I am still waiting for Bob's Game.

>>713246297
that guy's site disappeared recently, and I don't think there's anywhere else on the internet to find him or his stuff

he recently announced another project

>>713213116
Most reddit post I've seen in a bit

>>713246636
Oh boy, he's lost it.
I'd rather just go play random hypercard games in Baskisk II.

>>713247430
>having a job is reddit
nta but shouldn't it be the opposite? Most of reddit are feds, then most of its "real users" are a bunch of lazy faggots who never accomplished anything in life and are trying their hardest to get attention while on 4chan it's really variate.
Or am I missing something from the post?

>>713246636
>synced to the 40-minute album

>>713246636
>genre hopping game and "multimedia experience" set to an album
Just say it's a movie game you fucking retarded dev, I hope he goes bankrupt for all this shit

But I boughted Hypnospace Outlaw and Slayers X

>>713247601
Shut the fuck up HR npc

>>713210697
They almost got it right with supernatural forum in YIIK and it would've been a lot better if cental focus was on it instead of Alex hunting for vaguely ethnic poon.

>>713247852
I know you're shit posting but legitimately curious as to why human resources were your first reaction
I don't know if it has to do something with where I live but I think I've never met a single decent human being working on HR for some reason

>>713246636
>stole (you)r money to make a shittier game that you didn't ask for
Why has this become common lately?

>>713248130
I blame patreon. The patronizing model of funding art is fundamentally flawed and ruins artists. Often without them even realizing their mindset has been affected.

This is what happens when you don't have a job and you rely on spending other people's money. If he was spending his own money, he wouldn't hire expensive devs from San Fransisco.

>>713248207
>>713248307
he only got like 2 months of patreon money. not exactly a lot

>>713248543
It always happens after they start a Patreon, though. Without fail, it corrupts artists' mental state into a lazy stupor.

>>713248543
How about all the funding from NoMoreRobots, his publisher?

>>713228723
>They got paid for their work, retard.
That doesn't mean they still wouldn't have preferred their hard work to not go to waste just because the lead creative of the team lost his spark.

>>713209043 (OP)
>we'll never get the frutiger aero era third game

FUCK

>>713212564
Do you think developers work for free until a product launches? retard

>>713209043 (OP)
At least we got this game. Which was honestly the best thing to come out of the Hypnospace Outlaw idea. It was quite novel and original.

>>713222814
>Shadow Hearts' successor devs got scammed by a trannylator and are currently undergoing a lawsuit to get their money back
Source? First I've heard of it. So far the story always was they couldn't find a publisher

>>713248082
I'm prettey sure that just having a job in general is what's pissing that faggot off.

>early 90s nostalgia pandering
Oh no, what a tragic loss.

>Thanks for the 8-12k you can't refund
Based

>>713211804
>And because money is involved, you kind of have to go by the schedule and I've never successfully made a game based on a design document. It's hard for me to find motivation, like, find motivation to work on anything for a stretch of time and I've not been able to do it this way where I have a design document and then I follow it.

I remember hearing Masahiro Sakurai talking about once production starts, he makes damn near zero changes to the game from the design document. With him managing many many many more developers and still pumping out games on a timely fashion, hearing about these difficulties about following a design document make me appreciate his work more.

>>713250179
Just tell the grocery store to put it on your tab and you have a big hit coming in a couple years

>>713248951
not my problem

Feature bloat will fucking wreck your project. Should've just focused on doing a frutiger aero core sequel and worry about the other shit later.

>>713213813
Disgustingly based. All the roaches come out screeching when you point this stuff out.

>>713209043 (OP)
>The couple of only games that look interest is now cancelled.
WHY VIDYA IS SO GAY

Aw man

fuck

"So yeah I'm gonna spend 10 minutes explaining like a weepy retard that we got literally nothing done in 3 years, go fuck yourselves, also I want to make kids software now." Fucking avant garde cocksucker man.

>>713248951
Thats on them. If they just gave him free money they're retarded. If they had a contract with him tha. They'll settle that as written.

>>713211302
they already delayed this like twice, I'm losing hope. really loved the first game

the only things I'm looking forward to now are broken reality 2000 and ssr wives

>>713261220
The annoying thing is that the programmers did get a lot done and created this whole wysiwyg editor and custom markup language and at least one fully fleshed out minigame that is playable standalone...and I guess Jay just didn't work on anything until the editor was ready? And now he realizes that he's burnt out?

>>713265706
Looking at his Twitter he was ready to give up for a long time, terrified of the whole prospect which while understandable is a nut-up-or-shut-up moment. He could finish this and make a million whogivesafuck pieces of software for kids after, but naw he just gets to mumble like a panty waist and admit to getting nothing substantial done in 3 fucking years.

>>713267548
I knew there was something off with how long the game was taking and how like half the dev streams were dedicated entirely to fucking around making pages and songs in hypnospace instead of working on dreamsettler stuff.

>>713267548
>both Lucas Pope and Jay Tholen will now exclusively make games for kids

>>713218045
Anon...
>>713265667

>>713248012
Vaguely ethnic pussy is vitally important.

>>713212290
They're not living in fucking Venezuela bro. And it's a dev team not you living in thailand fucking ladyboys

What a shame

>$3,664/month
>this dude earns 2x+ than that

>>713210470
you dont understand, hes at the end of a long day of not making the game

>>713238085
Hello mr Zizou.
I won't tell anyone about Loli in Tomb of Friends.
I like you are games.

>>713272275
I'm glad that Jim Sterling made himself so repulsive that not even shitposters care to share his opinions anymore.

>>713273430
To be fair it's not like he's got anything new to say.

>>713212290
Anon i know your mom pays most of the bills but 4k isnt much for a month, especially when its to pay for a team developing something.

>>713252196
https://www.rpgfan.com/2024/11/25/penny-blood-studio-sues-former-publisher-alleging-unpaid-funds/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/698202724/#q698208702
Armed Fantasia's development at least went smoothly despite all of this so it's still likely that it will eventually come out but Penny Blood will depend if they get their money back or not seemingly

stop repeating the past, become new

Amazing how hard the last one was streamer astroturfed only for the guy who had to make the actual game with the assets to bitch out.

No refunds! Threadly reminder to buy nothing from indie tendies.

One day later I still refuse to accept that it's gone, any chances of development being restarted in the future if lots of assets have already been made?

>>713276835
oh like 100% that's happening
don't belive anyone else trying to say otherwise. they are just haters
just trust in yourself and me

Guess it's time to replay Hypnospace.

>>713276835
if the problem was assets with no code, that'd be fixable and some other team could semi-easily come in to patch things up while preserving the original vision
unfortunately it looks like the exact opposite problem where they've got a mostly complete skeleton of a game with no content written for it

>>713269537

>>713215961
>2OOOs

>almost never anticipating a game
>the one time i do it gets cancelled after zero news for 3 years

shame on me for looking forward to something

>>713278841
Ye

>>713244908
I still love his music but I made the mistake of watching one of his streams recently and found out he's a mega lib with TDS.

>>713280548
Physiognomy never fails.

>>713221159
Didn't know there was one. I feel like he purposefully didn't promote it well so he could justify cancelling it.

https://youtu.be/mdOCpwe67eY?si=4fY26FdSUleyTPvI
No glamocaster fans

>>713211302
Unironically same. There are a few other games I'm waiting but nothing will be like Broken Reality. Easily one of my top 10 favorite games

>>713211302
At this point same. Dreamsettler cancelled and Legends of Old released with rancid features that betray the original vision, both on the same day. Please don't let me down Broken Reality 2000.

>>713222814
For me it's
>Away From Home
>A song of sunlight
>Demon Tides (Pls fix Beebz model)
>Sinker sound
>Crescent Tower
>SSR Wives
>Danchi Days
>BBS Magica
>Broken Reality 2000
>Fault Milestone two side below
>Hyper Team Recon
>Ice on the Edge
>Love Revenge
>Project Mix
>Sinthome
>Star Fetchers

>>713222814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgqr6mm6ZuI

>>713286139
>star fetchers
kino, shame escape from porkbelly wasn't longer. I'd love being allowed to play sanyati as a sort of NG+

>>713277382
and as much as people are (justifiably) shitting on jay right now, he is genuinely an excellent writer who was the reason hypnospace was as emotionally resonant as it was. replacing him isn't an easy task

>>713288240
I agree. Escape from porkbelly was such a tease

>>713236629
true, hollywood hacking is way more kino than command line hacking (i know hacknet's CLI is simplified to the point where it's basically hollywood hacking but it's still not the same)
>>713237093
the problem i had with hackmud was that it was clearly intended to be a pvp experience where you could hack other players or pull eve online-type scams or whatever, but the game has like 20 active players who have op defenses and are all friends with each other so there's no pvp
consequently all you can really do is the pve puzzles which turn into actual work really fast (i'm not writing a qr code reader that can deal with missing bits in under 500 lines of javascript, fuck off)

>>713288757
zero chance they find someone who can just sub in for Tholen's writing without it being glaringly obvious. Absolute worst case scenario would be a community sequel getting hacked together from whatever ends up getting released.
This whole thing vaguely reminds me of the Sunless Sea/Sunless Skies situation where they replaced an extremely good author with an extremely distinct writing style with a bunch of fanfic-tier wannabes

>>713290012
This is the problem with most hacking games. Hollywood hacking is fun for most, realistic hacking that requires coding is only fun for deranged autists.

>>713291095
Sunless Sea guy writing for a fake internet game would be kino.

Since I see people talking about "hacking games" and before the thread hits limit and dies.
Any good hacking simulators? I have only played hacknet and enjoyed it. I don't mind coding, I like programming.
I guess I'm looking for something "realistic enough"? kind of thing. If that makes sense lol

>>713211347
YEAH

>>713236779
>7 months
yea its dead. or hes just gonna leave people in the dark til its out

>>713291926
Exapunks comes to mind.

Very sad. Hypnospace Outlaw is a perfect example of writing that seems like a big shitpost on the surface, but is full of meaning underneath. It's the kind of writing I like best.

>>713257121
Just remember, anon, no matter how hard they try to make you feel completely alone, I’m out here too.

>>713291926
hackmud is all real coding

>>713286139
>>713223281
>>713223732
>>713223232
>>713224524
>>713225103
>>713287090
Thank you very much!

>>713292171
>>713292498
Cheers! Thank you friends

>>713214467
Did he talk about it? I noticed he apparently streamed again today