Thread 713298089

This gpu really puzzles me. Just what kind of people can even afford this?

the math behind this gpu makes no sense. its 2x the fps of a 7900xtx but 4-5x the price of one?

Masochists who want
Incomplete (ROPS)
Old features tripped
Drivers that are still utter trash.

>>713298089 (OP)
Have you considered looking for a job that pays more than minimum wage?

>>713298338
this shit has so many driver issues on both windows and linux

>>713298185
7900xtx is poop, doesn't even have a good upscaler.

neets who blow their entire life savings on it and then proceed to do nothing but brag about it and walking midlife crises who genuinely enjoy playing AAA slop

>>713298556
the XTX doesn't need a fucking upscaler

>>713298564
That's a lot of projections in a single post

I'll just wait for the 60 series. It's not worth upgrading from my 3080 just yet

>>713298556
9070xt has fsr4 which is better than dlss4 according to several recent tests

>>713298338
if everybody is rich, nobody is, anon.

>>713298564
i have a mid life crisis and can't even afford a 5090

>>713298652
yes it does and TAA destroys native anyway. a 4070 for half the price using dlss will have better image quality/performance than a 7900xtx.

>>713298751
9070xt isn't a 7900xtx

>>713298089 (OP)
Me, all you have to do is have a job.

People who wanna flex and show others how much they can afford to spend
People who wanna AI slop without spending 20k on an actual AI GPU
People who really wanna play the worst UE5 slop on the market in 4K for some reason
People way too loyal to Nvidia

>>713298254
mine came with all the rops, though I guess it's not a first batch card. Drivers are fine, haven't notice any fuck up and I'm running it on dual monitor set up set at 165hz

>>713298919
9070xt is equal to 7900xtx pretty much
also both are beating the 5080 lmao
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103838/rx-9070-xt-beats-rtx-5080-in-cyberpunk-2077-3dmark-after-undervolting-rdna-4-hits-3-3ghz/index.html

>>713298556
FSR3 is plenty good for those of us that just play our damn games.

4k gaming is worth it and maybe I will learn how to generate AI images too

>>713298089 (OP)
I can afford it but i dont want a 600 watt gpu in my system. Shit is getting too crazy.

You would need to have at least 300k in your bank account for this GPU not to break your bank. In other words, most people who have this gpu don't know how to handle money. They can't actually afford it but buy it anyway for "reasons".

>>713299435
nuh uh i bought it with my autismbux

>>713298338
>Zotac
Almost

>>713298089 (OP)
I can easily afford several of them but don't really get much from it so I don't get it. Recently got a 4080super which is way more than enough for gayman and a massive upgrade from what I had before
>>713298806
that's not true anonymous

4090bros...we were defeated, we got too cocky, too arrogant....

>>713298751
>fsr4 which is better than dlss4 according to several recent tests
Post them please.

Oh, and I went from a 7900XT to a 5090 because quite frankly anything other than the flagship is gimped on purpose and I bought a new 4k OLED TV. The drivers are a fucking joke and the fact Ark Ascended runs better on a 4090 than a 5090 makes me mald.

>>713298089 (OP)
>Just what kind of people can even afford this?
I could. $2000 isn't much.

I could and was ready to buy one on launch day, but after sitting there hitting refresh for an hour before it emerged the UK had been allocated literally zero stock, had a real "what the fuck am I doing?" moment and bought a 7900 XTX for 1/3 of the price instead.

>>713298089 (OP)
Only people who have jobs, and don't live in Brazil can afford this card...

>>713298089 (OP)
i have an rog astral 5090.
was it worth it? not really but i also didn't end up on the streets because of this purchase. i'm not rich or anything

>>713299667
It's $3.2~ 3.5k

>>713298089 (OP)
>Just what kind of people can even afford this?
Get a (real) job.
Open a 18month 0% APR (((credit card))) with cashback.
Fund your build with the cashback.
Pay it off in a timely manner before interest kicks in.
Improve your goy score along the way, so you can make further investments later.

Is Palit good?

>>713299784

ironically i don t have a job, never will, live in brazil and have a 5090

>>713299998

Based thief

>>713299859
You remind me of these kids who have a payment plan for a Chrome Hearts sweater.

>>713298089 (OP)
I don't have other hobbies so it's easy to drop lodes of emone on PC components once every 2-4 years. I didn't buy the 5090 because it's a power hog for only a modest performance increase over the 4090.

>>713298089 (OP)
I can afford it and I have the one in your picture in my computer right now.

>>713298089 (OP)
I'm fine with 5080 4k performance.

>>713299853
I only buy from reputable retailers with a proper return policy. Never a third party. I'm not getting scammed.

>>713299646
its all over youtube, xitter, reddit, wccftech,videocardz,etc

>>713298975
Not that guy, but; I don't really see the point in spending 6000 USD on a fucking PC.
You'd have to go back to the mid 90s to find builds as expensive as they are now.

>>713300639
>2000 dollar GPU
>I'm not getting scammed

>>713299859
>Open a 18month 0% APR (((credit card))) with cashback.
Not a single institution would do this unless you have good credit history beforehand lol, at least if they're not retarded.

>>713301006
Isn't FSR4 free to use on Nvidia cards?

>>713301237
FSR4 is only for 9000 series on Windows.
If you're on Linux you can force it on 7000 series but there's a performance hit but its still better than native 4k both in visuals and fps.

>>713298089 (OP)
I mean I can afford it, but why the fuck would I spend $3000 on a GPU? It's actually insane.

>>713301148
I got my first computer in the mid 90s, back then it cost 8 thousand dollars, adjusting for inflation the 7 thousand dollar computer I just built is literally half as expensive as the one from the 90s.

I recently got a 5080 after 7 years of no upgrades and can't imagine needing more.

>>713301442
>memeflation
Crazy how many retards still believe this.

>>713302448
>I think the purchasing power of a dollar is unchanged over 30 years
And you call others retarded
Lol, lmao even

>>713299159
i'd rather have 4K no AA than temporal smearing.

>>713301461
See you seven years from now.

>>713302507
Almost all other PC hardware has remained the same price for the same tier of shit you're getting for the last 10 years, but suddenly after GPU corpos got caught bragging about scalpers selling their shit for 3x+ MSRP and they followed suit because they know their loyal lapdog consoomer drones will pay any price, THEN the excuse is "INFLATION".
The newest cope is now "TARIFFS." Sorry that you're a dumbass and think vaguely remembering your high school economics course matters in the real world, bud.

>>713302872
>ignores the entire point of the purchasing power of the dollar going down in favor of economy of scale production pricing being relatively unchanged
Retarded clown

>>713298089 (OP)
I can afford it but on principle i'm not going to pay 2-3x at scalper price, and i'm not going to subscribe to some "drops" discord server or install a bunch of apps.
Seems like it's never going to be publicly available to regular buyers and I imagine next gen will release before they actually produce any of these and the cycle will repeat, never managed to get a 4090 either. Doesn't seem like Nvidia really has any interest in making them and they're a glorified PR stunt.

I have a 7900XT that is fine for any games I play, I only want a 5090 for AI, I think anybody wanting it for games is kind of an idiot chasing the dragon but it is what it is. At least my Nvidia stocks pay out well.

>>713298727
>That's a lot of projections in a single post

>>713299435
I buyed it with paypal credit and I'll sell the GPU for even more months down the line!

>>713298089 (OP)
Most people finance it.

I can't AI gen on my little 9070XT without installing linux
which I won't be doing so it's over...

>>713298089 (OP)
I can afford it many times over, but I don't want it. That you can buy it doesn't mean even the MSRP is a good deal.

>>713302872
>inflation can't coexist with increased demand and other factors
damn nigger you really are a special breed of retarded

>>713303404
https://github.com/patientx/ComfyUI-Zluda
There's also the Windows Subsystem for Linux, which Linux users claimed would be discontinued, but this appears it to have been misinformation.
I personally quit genning because I got one too many accidentally-horrific results.

>>713298089 (OP)
>Have to wait weeks for my card to ship from Amazon

>>713303047
>ignores everything else I said because he's embarrassed at being a subservient drone
Good retard.
>>713303817
>shit I didn't say at all
Still ignoring the part about other PC hardware remaining almost the same price for a decade now. And actually, RAM has gotten cheaper on average too.
Reminder that CPUs are far more intricate and expensive to manufacture than GPUs and an i7 today is nearly the same exact cost as it was 10 years ago. Try again, theorytalking faggots :)

>>713298652
>the XTX doesn't need a fucking upscaler
The XTX does need one, because its choices are either TAA (shit) or FSR2-3(shit). FSR4 and DLSS at this point just grant objectively superior image quality. You are literally getting worse graphics on RDNA2-3 than you are with RDNA4.

>>713304897
>I think economy of scale production keeping costs relatively stable is equatable to inflation being fake
I'll keep repeating this until you stop responding you fucking cretin.
Inflation is easily tracked has gotten far far worse since the 70s.

>>713304897
>theorytalking faggots :)
that's what you're doing but you're too stupid to identify it
many factors influence price. prices going down or remaining stable on some things doesn't mean inflation is not occurring

>>713305116
>>713305189
>strawmans again
>n-no u
Buck broken beyond words.
Even entertaining your autism your own """argument""" here works against you, because for all intents and purposes EoS production should keep GPU costs down. It's entirely because Nvidia and AMD wanted to artificially inflate their prices to match that of scalpers, nothing more, nothing less. Any other take on this is corpo anus licking cope.
Funny how this is like the 9th time in a row you've conveniently ignored the fact their executives had leaked audio bragging about their hardware selling on ebay for 3x+. Activates those almonds ;)

>>713299998
he meant legally

>>713298089 (OP)
>Just what kind of people can even afford this?

I can afford it, but I ain't stupid enough to buy one. Not worth the suffering once your cables melt and the hassle to return and get replacements.

>>713299159
>FSR3 is plenty good
Lmao. This is the equivalent of insisting pig food is good because you've never tasted anything better than that.
FSR4 is several tiers of quality above FSR3. Frankly the best part of FSR4's release is that finally people stopped pretending FSR3 is good and finally admitted it was always a piece of shit, only resorted to if you had no other option.
Once you get a 9070XT or an Nvidia card (don't) you'll see the light and realize good image quality can still be achieved in the age of temporalslop, but not on older RDNA cards or GTX cards.

>>713298089 (OP)
>Just what kind of people can even afford this?
single professionals with plenty of disposable income because he was too awkward to have a family

>>713305326
Do you even understand what inflation is or how its measured?

>>713305440
It was marketed as THE 4K card, it can't even do it without fakeframe shit and the last few drivers have been total garbage too. They pulled the same shit with the 4090 and it cut corners all over the place too, like not having displayport 2. Supposedly the most "premium" and "enthusiast" hardware, but it couldn't even include tech that was approaching being 4 years old at that point. Embarrassing to say the least.

>>713301461
I was in a similar situation. Previous build was a Ryzen 5 1600 with a RX 580 8GB, upgraded to a Ryzen 7 9800X3D with a RTX 4090

>>713305326
no I mentioned 'increased demand' a few posts ago. We were never in disagreement about that, so why go on about it? Yes, increased demand causes arbitrary price increases. Key word: arbitrary. I was focusing on the thing that we didn't agree on.

>>713301006
The fuck am I supposed to see here?

>>713305583
Yes, and I realize it's used as a catch-all cope by corpos and their beloved ass lickers to shut down any and all complaints at blatant arbitrary price increases.
Reminder that Nintendo just got caught doing the same shit I already described, with the $80 game nonsense, with leaks already showing they were going to increase the base cost to $70 already and then saw everyone saying "TARIFFS TARIFFS TARIFFS" and bumped it up again.
I'm sorry you think it's just absolutely impossible for multitrillion dollar corporations to be scummy and somehow think this is all something that's just out of everyone's control, instead of being explicitly orchestrated by massive entities. Must be nice being a drone.
>>713305762
Pure autism, read above.

>>713298089 (OP)
I bought an RTX 4080 Super last year for 900 euro, I supersample old games to 8k while running newer games at 4k DLSS. I work a part time job with miserable pay, but I'm not a spendthrift and don't waste money on stupid shit, so I didn't need long to put some money on the side.

>>713305583
A $400 GPU purchased in 2015 would cost about $543 in 2025 when adjusted for inflation using official CPI data. This is calculated by multiplying the original price by the ratio of the 2025 CPI (321.465) to the 2015 CPI (237.017):

>>713305886
In 2015, Nvidia's flagship gaming GPU was the GeForce GTX Titan X, which launched at $999. Adjusting for inflation to 2025, that would be about $1,334.

>>713305868
>read above
>it's the thing I already spelled out that I agreed with when I shouldn't have had to at all
okay you actually are retarded and I'm not gonna continue to suffer you falling on your face and then yelling strawman and autism at me when you do it

>>713305868
>I don't believe in an easily measured concept that has only worsened for 50 years since the dollar was totally decoupled from gold
Praise the Jews

>>713298089 (OP)
I bought one for 2900 USD (cheapest in Europe I could find) and returned it after a month. It was nice to play BG3 and Cyberpunk at 240 FPS @ 4k with RT etc but the worry that I was going to damage it somehow with a faulty PCIe just made it not worth it. 3k invested is at least 300 dollars a year, that's the cost just to own it, besides however it depreciates.

>>713298089 (OP)
Is PC even the "master race" anymore? You can get a nice, used car for the price of this GPU, let alone the whole rig. While games are less optimized, more invasive, and more restrictive (such as with mods).

>>713299626
Not really...the 5090 is literally just a 4090 with watts and heat pushed to/beyond the limit.
I said no thanks when one was offered to me at MSRP.
Are there some games where I could use that extra 20% performance? Sure, but not at the expense of the extra heat and all the other shit the 5000 series is experiencing right now.

>>713306056
It's really embarrassing how you said you agreed with me, having to backtrack and say I'm right in saying that GPU prices aren't a result because of inflation and just because Nvidia and AMD are greedy. You just feel the need to keep responding because you don't want to actually own up for your previous retarded and bad faith claims.
Sad.
>>713306085
>another strawman
Yep, I bet that hairy corporate asshole tastes good for consoomer subhumans such as yourself.
Pretty soon it's going to reach a breaking point though, wonder how long these two companies will be able to screech "INFLATION! TARIFFS!" for? Will it take the 6090 being an MSRP of $5,000? Maybe $10,000? Or maybe the another SKU debacle and them selling a 6050 with missing ROPs for $1,500.

>>713306612
>he is so Jewish he must deny anything that suggests that printing trillions of dollars out of thin air would have any negative effects on existing money
Damn you are truly retarded or simply a jew.

>>713298185
NVIDIA is leveraging their technology suite (visually superior AI upscaler, DLSS4 FG etc) to justify the price of entry. Essentially what you're paying for is the ability to use their AI upscaling tech vs any competition.

>>713306612
Alright I’ll let you fall on your face just one more time. I didn’t backtrack anything. No backtracking is necessary if I didn’t disagree on arbitrary price increases happening. However, inflation is real and it is a factor as well. You’re clearly ESL so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on handling nuance. You probably are just stupid, though.

>>713298185
High end graphics cards are an extreme form of diminishing returns. AN RTX4070 Ti Super will give you 70% the performance of an RTX4090 while costing approximately half and drawing about 65% of the power.

>>713306781
>shit I never said
>"JEEEWS"
The irony of saying this while denying that companies would totally just 3x their prices if their consoomer drones would allow it is just... Mwah! Perfetto!
I couldn't have asked for a response with less self awareness.
>>713306965
>n-n-no I didn't
I get it, it must be embarrassing smegma covered corpo cock all the time and excusing them artificially blowing up their MSRP 3 fold in under 2 years, but this is sad.
Come join us again when you can be an adult and admit your mistakes.

>>713304057
fuuuuuck I still am still in the return window for this thing, erm...kinda want my AI genning to be piss easy only so I might just swap it for a 5070TI...yeaaa..

>>713301214
>unless you have good credit history beforehand lol
This isn't hard if you're white

>>713298089 (OP)
Imagine how much better this place would be if you needed to spend that much to own a device with internet.

>>713308345
You said inflation isn't real and that it's all merely corporate greed.
Pointing out that you're retarded for ignoring the continual devaluation of the dollar is justified and if it isn't wilful ignorance then you are merely a jew.

I'm probably gonna build a new PC soon and I wanted to ask, should I stay Nvidia or go AMD? Is there a big difference between FSR4 or DLSS? should I even have them on?

>>713309237
>should I stay Nvidia or go AMD? Is there a big difference between FSR4 or DLSS? should I even have them on?
Depends on your budget. If it's up to about 800-900 dollars, go AMD's RX9070XT. If you can find the RTX5070Ti at its intended price, go for that. If budget is above that, you go Nvidia always.
>Is there a big difference between FSR4 or DLSS?
Not a big difference, a minor one.
The main problem is that FSR4 is just available in fewer games and can't be swapped out as easily as DLSS. So if you go AMD, you will have to use the Optiscaler application to mod FSR4 into games. DLSS is still the better choice but the difference isn't big anymore, it's DLSS4 > FSR4 >> older DLSS >>>>> older FSR.
>should I even have them on?
FSR4 or DLSS4? Yes you should, or you should use them at 100% render scale as antialiasing (DLAA/FSR4AA). There's no reason to render games with standard antialiasing (TAA) anymore.

>>713309527
Thanks for the detailed answer, think I'll stick with Nvidia
minor aside, I will probably grab a Ryzen since I hear Intel isn't really worth it anymore, I assume that hasn't changed?

>>713306596
And what's the alternative? A shitty console where you have to pay a subscription fee to use your own internet connection, and to play games you don't own. Console hardware isn't even good, it's just that they pay devs for optimizing.

>>713309874
>I hear Intel isn't really worth it anymore, I assume that hasn't changed?
Correct, get a Ryzen X3D chip. There's pros and cons to Nvidia vs AMD in GPUs, but for CPUs Intel's been on a losing streak and AMD is the obvious choice.

>>713308464
You don't even have one. You're just an Nvdrone astroturfing. Otherwise, why even announce it?

>>713309237
>Is there a big difference between FSR4 or DLSS
Yes Nvidia's upscaling is a hundred times better than AMDs. DLAA is the best antialiasing solution on the market. If you're not a pixel peeper or have low standards then it might not matter though. As for frame gen, they're both garbage.

>>713310287
I have a steel legend from newegg that was 699. the fact it can't do AI without having to jump through a fuck ton of steps sucks ASS. The card is good for gaming.
(this is my second one because the first one was dead on arrival kek)

>>713309527
>FSR4 in fewer games
Its going to be native in more games, but any game that has FSR3.x can use FSR4 - there's a bit in AMD drivers that basically turn it on for any game, if you have a 9000-series GPU.

>>713309874
you'd be better off going for AMD 9070XT more likely for a GPU, unless you want a 5090 and are willing to pay for it. Its the same has it has been for the past 3 generations - NV on the absolutehighest end xx90 cards, but below that AMD is generally a better choice for cheaper, with more RAM.
>Ryzen
Yes, these are the best. Make sure you get a 9800X3D for gaming performance and a 9950X3D if you want gaming + multicore/creative stuff that uses more than 8c/16t.

>>713310393
>Yes Nvidia's upscaling is a hundred times better than AMDs.
Not anymore.
It is true that DLSS is a hundred times better than FSR2-3.1, but FSR4 released recently and it's a pretty good subtitute for DLSS.
t. 4070 ti super owner

>>713305857
the shadows on the grass flickering, I think

>>713310479
>AI jumping through hoops
That's more on the fault of AI fags who configure their shit exclusively with CUDA. The 9070XT does just fine with AI work if you or someone working on the project configured it properly to use ROCm / HIP or other compute, but if its only proprietary CUDA configured and you try to use it, no wonder people screech about AI no worky with 30+ sec to render what NV did in 5 - its like getting mad that you can't charge your electric car at the gas station by putting a few bucks of unleaded into it.

>>713310602
FSR4 is definitely an improvement, but DLSS4's new transformer model has made another leap ahead. Here's a good example: https://youtu.be/M6nuDOqzY1U?si=eVb64PxFvi5S9vXy&t=332
Just way more stable.

>>713308345
Illiterate retard

>>713298089 (OP)
>>713298089 (OP)
I got the astral 5090.
I'll tell you why i bought it, and that was coming from an rtx 4090 that i sold off. It was because the cards are getting higher framerates at higher resolutions in PCVR.

So there you go. That's your answer from me. I've got all my ROPs on the card accounted for, no melting connectors.

>>713298089 (OP)
believe it or not zoomie alot of people make $200k plus or have high networth and like personal computer shit as a hobby

they live at home/irresponsible with money (most people)/or genuinely successful.

I'm betting on mostly just irresponsible with money, OH and lives at home.

If you make $75k a year or more that means you will have $6250 to work with a month.
After rent and bills, you'll have $3000-$4000 in spending money easily. It's literally nothing if you're making enough money.

>>713309237
DLSS is marginally better than FSR4.
The actual issue is FSR4 adoption rate. It is SLOW.
If you go AMD, expect to wait a while before it is adopted more fully and quickly. Unless you are willing to use third party mods.

How much is a 5090 actually worth paying for?
I'm going to budget $6,000 for a PC upgrade next year

>>713299626
no thx, my undervolted 4090 is usually 200-300w, but can spike up to 380w. a 5090 is another 100-150w even undervolted. fuck that, i dont want a vacuum cleaner power consumption in my pc.

>>713311814
>How much is a 5090 actually worth paying for?
1600 max

>>713299626
3050Ti (75W) chads, ww@??

>>713298089 (OP)
I make good money and don't have a lot of responsibilities outside of paying my mortgage. I like playing with local AI stuff so the extra VRAM was the real draw.

>>713309169
I didn't say that at all, cute strawman. My point was that it's a dogshit excuse to justify GPU prices artificially being boosted to 3x out of blatant greed.
Try again, corpo ass sucker. Gotta be ESL.
>>713311003
Ironic

>>713298806
It is not a competition.

>>713311814
I have the same question. I was going to buy a pre-built with a 5090 for streaming/future proofing but these threads always make me worry. I just want something I can turn on and shut down without worrying for the next decade but then you hear about 50 series shitting itself...

>>713311256
>irresponsible with money
Yes, because you should never spend money on your hobbies and instead keep it all in the bank to never use. And you definitely will not get 80% of your money back after selling it in a few years for the next upgrade.

it should be illegal for you to buy this card if you make under six figs.

>>713313534
AND you should be limited to only driving a corolla or civic. You are NOT financially ready for more.

lots of seething thirdies ITT
it makes sense though, what's their annual income? I think India's average salary is less than 5k USD lol

>>713311814
I paid about $6500 (after tax + shipping) for a prebuilt with a 5090. No regrets so far.

>>713298089 (OP)
It’s only 3000 bucks, but why would I ever pay that much for a gpu which will be outdated in 2-3 years. Fuck Nvidia for what they did to the market.

>>713302813
Thanks, I can't wait for the price to double again.

If I could get a FE at MSRP, I'd drop 2k right now. The issue is all cards have minimum +200 from scalper tax. So even the 2500 models cost 2700.

What games can this GPU play that a 4080 can't play?

>>713314038
Not indian, but here in Mexico minimum wage is indeed 5k USD per year

As a software tester my salary is 14k USD a year, my pc with a 4090 was around 4k

>>713299159
FSR3 really only holds up on quality scaling at 4K, maybe balanced if you're not picky.
But really anything lower or at lower native resolution is just blurry for me.

>>713314362
Apparently people are calling bestbuy able to order them if they pay for national shipping.

>>713311123
>believe it or not zoomie alot of people make $200k plus or have high networth and like personal computer shit as a hobby
Yet those same people will be marching in the streets demanding communism and civil war because they can't pull together $200k for a home.

I can afford it but it's fucking retarded, it's for techbro redditors to show off to each other like all expensive hardware

>>713313330
>but then you hear about 50 series shitting itself...
Asus's cards put in a little read out in their GPU Tweak III software that warns about unstable voltages/or in other words a bad cable that is not playing nice with the card. It can be the cables themselves or a bad connection itself. But this would theoretically pick it up before a disaster happens and your connectors melt. I know it works because it's sensitive and does easily show a warning if you were to use some custom cable mod or something.

>>713315649
>but it's fucking retarded
It's not. you do know that 4090's price has skyrocketed right? to the point that you can literally exchange a second hand 4090 with a brand new 5090. same thing will happen with a 5090.

>>713315649
>it's for techbro redditors to show off to each other like all expensive hardware
What is the point of living if not to signal your richness to people online and prove you and the biggest consooomer.

>cheapest 9070xt at microcenter is $700
should i wait for a higher tier card at this point
i just want to gayme at 4k and i don't care about AI stuff

>>713298089 (OP)
>This gpu really puzzles me. Just what kind of people can even afford this?
The kind of people that make poor financial decisions

>>713315258
Its just a coin toss if the person at BB is cool or not, I've tried at two local ones.

>>713315649
>I can afford it
>but
You can't afford it.

>>713299859
>opened new credit card with no interest for a few months
>stopped paying in full
>goy score plummeted
The second I stopped giving a shit about credit score, it soared

i can afford to buy it, but i literally dont have any justification for buying it. its about 3000 and i think the 5080 is like 1k, and i dont know what use case i would have for the extra power. i dont even play many newer games. im in the market for a new pc as my current one is 5 years old, (2080)

>>713316146
Imagine if we just used an actually safe power delivery standard, like we did for decades beforehand, instead of nshittia cutting corners to the point where people have to regularly monitor their hardware themselves and see if it is going to burn their house down or not.
Of course fanboy consoomers don't give a shit though.

>>713298089 (OP)
What kinda fps will one of these get in Mirrors Edge with PhysX on?

If I don't plan on playing any games (old or new) over 1080p can I get away with using a 4070? Will most new games still struggle? again, I will not be playing any games in 4k.

>>713299626
The 4090 hasn't been defeated yet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdb5cX40T_0

>>713306596
of course pc is still the masterrace if you just upgrade with mid-range used parts only as necessary to keep playing the games you want. I'm still using my i5-6600 because it still works for everything I want to play, and the same PSU and case for the last 11 years, but I upgraded to an rtx 3060 recently. It's way overpowered and i can't imagine needing more for a long time.

Bros this is on sale:
https://www.ple.com.au/products/674720/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-5090-solid-oc-32gb-gddr7-white
Should I get it to play Doom TDA???

>>713318595
>tda
kys

God the 4090 was such a better deal back in the day it's insane.
>>713318595
AAAAAACK

>>713318595
>Zotac

>>713299567
There's absolutely nothing wrong with it

>>713318503
>buy 5090
>use 5090 as main card
>use 4090 as exclusive PhysX card
the way it's meant to be played

I will buy 6090 as well

>>713298556
>7900xtx
it has fsr4 on linux

>>713317580
I'm not excusing it. I don't think that it's a good thing that it's happening. But it never happened to me on my 4090 while i was using that, despite similar reports existing of melting connectors. So it's simply an experience i cannot relate with, especially regarding this current gen. I've had issues with hardware in the past on things that weren't even known to have widespread problems that were perhaps comparable to the fermi era, so idk. For me hardware failures if they ever happened were always unconventional and never related to the masses of user experiences. Even now some people say Nvidia's drivers are shit, and i agreed for quite some time that they were putting out terrible drivers. Then Doom TDA drivers rolled out and fixed practically all of my issues.

I have a 3090, was close to buy a 5090, but every single benchmark on youtube screamed "weak 600W card", so it's a clear no-buy.
Hopefully with the 6000 series it will be safe to upgrade.

In the meantime I just bought more frames on Steam, which also work with pirated games and any video thing on my screen.

>>713298089 (OP)
People with more money than sense.
A 5070 or 9070xt is already more than what you will ever need.

>>713298089 (OP)
>what kind of person can afford something that costs a weekly wage (fortnight if you're poor)
woah

>>713298089 (OP)
I can but I have no need for it.
I did buy a switch 2 and my laptop has a 4090 in it.

>>713321681
>A 5070 or 9070xt is already more than what you will ever need
lel

>>713298089 (OP)
It's for the top 10% and you're not included.

the same people that kept counter-strike's server running in the 2000's.
IT Admins at a minimum, for gaming and devs/fags for production

>>713304923
no because you play native ultra 60 nooob

>>713321681
yet you can't max out AC Shadows at 1440p, lol

Imma be real with you bros. GPUs shouldn't be this expensive. It's going to cause no one to build PCs anymore and just get consoles or steam things

>>713323918
I've legit just stopped playing new games since most of them are pozzed and derivative trash, so hardware becoming more expensive purely to line pockets only reinforces this sentiment.

>>713323918
>It's going to cause no one to build PCs anymore

Not really. It just means PC gaming (unless playing old games) will be a rich person thing. Like, there are watches that cost tens of thousands. How do the companies stay in business? It's because if shit is expensive, you can sell less of it and make the same amount of money. That's why PC hardware only ever goes up in price.

>>713324348
You need volume to sell games retard

>>713298089 (OP)
? it's not that expensive. it's 2 months wages, probably less.
if you own your home and don't waste money on other things, it's easily affordable.

>>713323918
No shit. You could build high end gaming PC's for a thousand dollars back when I was in high school, and that was only 15 years ago. Even adjusted for inflation no fucking high end GPU should be more than 1000 bucks by today's standards. I had an 8800 GTX, that cost me like 600 back then. Probably one of the best cards on the market at the time, and that's probably 900 by today's standards. A 5090 goes for 3,500 to 4,100 dollars on the market. Absolutely fucking absurd. Scalpers are only partly to blame, manufacturers encourage that bullshit from the get-go because that just means they make more money. Crypto was the worst thing to ever happen to PC gaming.

>>713324505
>it's 2 months wages
That's expensive you retard. A single hobby purchase shouldn't be 1/6th of your yearly income.

>>713324683
I think the AI boom is the issue. Nvidia was always the better manufacturer, but with AI, they've skyrocketed into the normie sphere and every investor is eyeing them like hawks

>>713324797
why not? it's my only "expensive" hobby.
i weightlift, but it's not expensive.
i read, but i pirate books. same for tv and movies.
i go out with friends, but i don't drink and we don't go to restaurants often.

but i game every day. why shouldn't i pay for the best experience?
also these cards last for many years. i might be saving money long term, while getting the best experience short term.

>>713298089 (OP)
IT wizards

Tranny streamers. I’ve got my sights set on a 490 and it’s like 700 dollars, and that’s just for 12gb
A good card that’s 16gb costs 1500+
Absolutely stupid

A carton of eggs used to cost $2
Now they cost $10

A high end gpu used to cost $1k
Now they cost $3k

>>713324505
If you can't earn the cost of a 5090 within max 30 minutes, you can't afford a 5090. You can tell yourself you can afford it all you want but every financial advisor would just laugh at you.

>>713325157
Both have inflated prices that cant be explained away with inflation alone.

>>713325360
>financial advisor
you guys sound like teenagers with a parody of how adulthood works.
i have many friends who do the lowest jobs, they work in food markets or as waiters ecc.
and they all waste thousands every year for week long vacations.
they literally live as poor people all year long, to then play rich for 1-2 weeks.
i don't. i don't travel. i don't like it and don't need it.
so, as i said, it's affordable with any job if you don't waste money.
i'd rather spend for stuff i can use for years than waste money for a few weeks.

>Go to microcenter
>5090 is 3.2k
>Ask Salesman why
>Says its the tariffs, blame the orange guy

NO ONE is buying 5090s. No one.
We're in a recession and only the craziest retards are blowing cash on that shit.
I've watched the stock of 5090s and the counts of in stock items only goes up.

Nvidia pivoted to consumer production because demand for AI shit has been plummeting for a year now.
All their sales numbers are lies created with fraudulent accounting, but no one cares because they are the tentpole holding up the illusion.
The bubble has burst but it doesn't matter, the central planners are keeping asset prices sky high in an extremely illiquid market that no one has the juice to crash. No one has the money or balls to overcome the structure of long positions.
But this is an extremely unstable situation.
Covid trained the NPC niggercattle to sit and stay, but if they snap out of it and start consuming and living like normal, or if any kind of big event happens, it will shatter the markets.

So the kikes are going to try to make that big event happen under their control and use it as an excuse to do more lockdown training sessions for the niggercattle.
WW3?

>>713326008
there are literally no tariffs on any of that shit

>>713326237
I'm a niggerkilling rapist

my 3090 is still doing 60-120+ fps at 4K. Why do I need a 5090 lmfao

does anyone know a way I could possibly modify the bios of a 5080 so it would read as a 5090 in hwinfo etc?

>>713326542
That's a 4 years old game

>>713326594
And? It's still performing for the games I like and want to play so it isn't an issue for me.

>>713326542
What a blurry fucking mess

>>713298089 (OP)
for me, it has been my midlife crisis purchase
I'm old, I have family, no debt, videogames are my main maybe even single hobby

but it was not a smart purchase and I know I can get better performance with less money by buying cheaper cards more frequently

Is there a substantial difference between RTX 2060 (8gb) and 5060 (8gb)?
Meaning will I notice a difference while playing games?

>>713298564
>life savings
>£2400
ha ha ha

>>713325360
What job do you have where you earn ~8000 USD per hour and somehow aren't busy enough to shitpost on here all day, anon? Larp it up for me.

>>713326719
facebook messenger compression

>>713326741
I have a 3060 and I’m wondering the same thing
I’m guessing you would yield marginally more frames per second in any high end game. But only ultra/high settings so every buttfucking setting on and still have no FPS drop.

>>713326542
the 3090 isn't a 4k GPU

>>713298338
This anon fucks a child

>>713326741
Yes obviously. Especially with RT. But the moment you go over 8Gb you are fucked even at 1080p. Don't buy 8Gb cards in 2025.

>>713298089 (OP)
>what kind of people can even afford this
It's more of a professional piece, where it'll itself in time. But for particular people it doesn't really make sense. You CAN buy I guarantee you, but you'd be better off spending that money in other more worth it things.
No one really need a 5090 for gayming.

>>713326741
you will generally have much higher frames on the 5060 but
>8GB
yeah, dont fucking bother. youre just gonna regret it.
16GB is the minimum you should be aiming for. just keep saving your pennies, kiddo. dont listen to the poorfag budget PC recommendations.

>>713326934
Only trannies use RT. Will 5060 give at least give 10 fps over 2060?

>>713316984
>can drop $3k on GPU
>you must be bad with money
you can't drop $3k on a GPU so you're bad with money

>>713326819
The point isn't to look for a job that pays you 8k an hour (though by all means it's okay to look for something like that and improve your life). The point is that GPUs are too expensive. And literally the only people who should buy it are rich as fuck people or I don't know, game devs, artists because they need it for their work or whatever. Either way, working 2 days or more for just one single GPU (not even the whole PC) is a retarded thing to do. But hey it's your money and as long as people are retarded nvidia will exploit it.

>>713327037
yeah fucking obviously it will

>>713327070
>But hey it's your money
Yes. You get it. Now you just need to learn to mind your own business

If I make big ass doinks on stocks this year I'll get a 5090

People think I'm financially irresponsible because I own a 5090 might be the funniest shit I've read here

>>713327182
But dunking on people having to work 2 days for one GPU is too much fun anon. I just did the math and I could buy 30 prostitues for the price of one 5090. Which I'd much rather do than give nvidia of all people my money. Jensen won't suck my dick.

>>713327070
Yes, GPU prices are retarded and I get the sentiment.
>>713325507
A week is probably the absolute longest I could tolerate a vacation where I travel somewhere. Shit gets boring very quickly.

>>713327285
No, buying a 5090 will always make sense if you are rich as fuck. If you aren't you are poor and retarded. Sorry it hurt your feelings.

>>713298089 (OP)
My autism tells me that if the letters "ti" arent there then it isnt good

>>713327314
>work
what? I don't work. I have two of them. lol

>boughted 4090 on launch
If the 5090 was 40+% stronger than my 4090 I would buy one. But it isn't because it's shit.

>>713327598
the 5090 is about 50% to 100% stronger when you start doing higher resolutions in VR.

>>713327598
It's about 37% stronger

>>713327367
>week is probably the absolute longest I could tolerate a vacation
for me it's like 2 days.
the second day i'm wasting more than 30 euros on food i could make in my own home for maybe 1-2 euro, knowing that 30 euros could give me months of gaming, i'm out.

>>713298089 (OP)
It's for the person with more money than sense anon.

The fools who chase 'PEAK" performance even if it's only by the margin of error window which is about 3-5% depending on the test, 3 average. The person who bought a 3090 for 2 grand then when they 3090ti came out they sold it for $1800 and bought a 3090ti.

that guy

>>713327706
so you have more sense than money.

>>713327285
what game?

>>713327384
what is rich or poor to you?

>none of /v/ has posted their 5090 yet
third world ass board

>>713328150
>none of /v/ has posted their 5090 yet
Nobody actually has one anon, they don't exist. There were only maybe 100 made and they were all sent to tech reviewers and influencers to generate hype.
The people claiming to have them are just hired shills who want to keep people talking and begging for them because it make Nvidia stock price go up the more desperately people beg.

What's even considered the ideal "price:performance" now?

>>713328425
I have 2

>>713328545
>I have 2
I don't believe you.

>>713328632
I don't care. You believing or not doesn't change reality

>>713328680
Sure and i'm Elon Musk.

>>713328753
it must suck to live in a world where you can't comprehend someone owning a couple of graphic cards

>>713298089 (OP)
I could, but I didn't because despite having money I still consider the cost-benefit factor of my purchases.

>>713328545
in SLI

>>713328787
Of course I can i'm very wealthy and own several companies.

>>713298089 (OP)
people with a job
>>713298185
its called diminishing marginal utility, it exists in every product and Service imaginable

>>713328818
no. One is in a vr sim racing rig, the other is in this pc I have on a monitor

>>713328012
What fucking question is this even. Rich is someone who can comfortably own a private jet and use it daily without it making a dent in his net worth. Poor is someone who has to work more than a week to afford a GPU (which is a retarded thing to do I can't stress that enough)

>>713328913
so in order to be able to afford a $3k gpu you must own a private jet?

>>713328913
so 99.99% of the population is poor?
let me guess, youre part of the 0.01%

>>713328985
>let me guess, youre part of the 0.01%
Yeah most of /v/ is in the 0.01%

>>713298089 (OP)
People were paying 3x MSRP during the crypto boom and covid. They sent Nvidia a message loud and clear. Besides that, the consumer GPU division makes up less than 10% of Nvidias total revenue and is only kept around as an advanced recycling system. They are literally selling us enterprise chips that didn't meet the standards, slap them on a PCB and put a price tag on the box.

what colour is your 5090?

>>713328985
I don't give a fuck about the population I just said what I consider rich, retard. But sure everyone is rich okay you win. Fuck off

>>713329286
you're the one throwing tantrums about other people buying graphic cards

>>713328941
In order to be able to afford a 3k GPU you should have at least 100% of money in a bank account if the GPU equals to about 1% of your bank account. Do the math faggot and then realise how retarded a 3k GPU is if you don't need it for your literal job.

>>713329124
Basically anyone paying attention knows that nearly every industry is going to either be run or augmented by AI within the next 10 years meaning high-end GPUs will be worth more than gold since they will be doing all the work. It's unlikely prices will ever go down meaningfully.

>>713329165
Mines purple with sprinkles. I'm CEO of Tesla.

>>713329320
I'm making fun people with bad spending habits which is quite enjoyable. You are the one throwing a tantrum because you are slowly starting to realise that your spending habit is retarded. Sucks to be you but it's not my problem.

>>713329384
You're projecting your own financial position onto other people.
I wanted more GPU power so I bought the most powerful. It's that simple. All the noise and drama you're putting on this simple purchase shows that you're nothing but a seething faggot.
>WHAT YOU PLAY GAMES AND BOUGHTED THE BEST DEVICE TO PLAY GAMES ON REEEEEEE
this is you. just another insufferable little twat on the internet

>>713329448
you know nothing about my finance, yet you keep trying to inject that I somehow can't afford it into the discussion. lol

>>713329492
Dude I actually like that retards are bending over backwards for GPUs. I make fun of it that is all. It's just helping my stock either way.

>>713329597
>muh stock
yet you can't afford a gpu.
lol

>>713329492
>Ayo I hads to have dems shiniest biggest gold rims in da hood so I boughts um with muh simuluz monez.

>>713329619
I can afford the GPU that I need and that in willing to spend money on according to my needs. I'm actually looking forward to other much more interesting things than a fucking PC part of all things. Also please work yourself to death for PC parts retard

>>713329638
even if I did why would it matter to you what I do?
If you can't afford 3k then I'd be more concerned about your own position rather than mine

>>713329697
>i can afford it but I buy other things
I can afford it and buy other things.

>>713329619
>muh stock
>yet you can't afford a gpu.
Never smoke your own product.

>>713329710
You can't afford 3k yourself unless you have 300k in your account retard.

>>713328913
Actually esl the term you are looking for is wealthy, a rich person cannot afford a private jet, charter only.
A wealthy person owns the jet and charters it out when they aren't using it.

>>713329739
>you are not allowed to have hobbies unless youre a billionaire

I can't think of a single good game that needs a 5090.

>>713330381
You are trying to justify your retarded spending habits to a literally who on a 4chan thread right now. Please cease your retarded activities at once, I beg of you. Continue to work yourself to death for PC parts.

>>713330449
Crysis

>>713330521
>just stop posting stuff I can't afford

>>713330449
I could only think of wanting to play upcoming games at 4k. Though if that is the case why not get a GPU being released closer to those games releases. At some point buying GPUs becomes a meme.

>>713330521
Nta but I have a 5090 and I don't have 300k in my savings account because that's utterly retarded.

>4090
>70k in savings

>>713330669
What is retarded about having 300k? I think even more would be better depending on your place of residence and cost of living?

>>713330618
You keep repeating that even though you can't afford it either. You're what's known as "hood rich".

>>713330749
Because having a lot of money in savings just to get taxed on it is for rubes that don't invest their money.

>>713330449
You're a contrarian that would say any game is shit to prop up your narrative anyway, don't lie

>>713330756
He is starting to realise it and lashes out at us for his retarded spending. Poor guy but I feel for him.

>>713330756
>but you can't afford it
>even though you already have it and buying it didn't change anything
lol , you're what's known as a "poorfag"

>>713298089 (OP)
I can afford this buy have no use for all the power.
>much higher gaming bang-for-buck with a cheaper card while still maxing out settings at 1440p
>no need to feel unnecessarily attached to hardware when the inevitable bug driving me to upgrade comes a-knockin'
>can just the cluster at work for any real GPU work like training
the highest end card almost never has any real use case outside of e-peen. you'll find a lot of weebs buying this because they want to generate images of their waifus as well, but remember that they paid $2000 to be the most annoying person in like 90% of the threads they occupy.

>>713323505
TAA is forced at native these days

I want one but I'm not paying $1000 over MSRP. Fuck these jew companies charging $3k+ for one.

they know motherfuckers will pay so yeah. the cost of any object is what idiots can be manipulated into paying for it.

>>713331080
>he bought a low end PC and thought it was money well spent

>>713330818
>even though you already have it and buying it didn't change anything
It did, it increased your risk. Based on your mentality and impulsiveness i'm sure you'll make many other poor financial decisions that will eventually lead you to crying about money in another thread, assuming you aren't already, as many others around here do.

>>713299859
>falling for the credit jew
Do amerimutts really?

>>713331262
>It did, it increased your risk.
Risk of what? I bought it cash with spare money I had
>Based on your mentality and impulsiveness
I buy what I want when I want it. I don't have to discuss it or plan my spending. I certainly don't cry about money as there's nothing to cry about.
It's fun watching you try to build a picture of me when all you're doing is showing your own insecurities

>>713331203
its presumably your own money to do with what you want ,even if I consider it daft.

>>713331203
>he bought a low end PC and thought it was money well spent
It objectively is money well spent, going from no PC to a low end one massively expands your options and capabilities. Upgrading to a high-end GPU offers marginal to no benefit beyond using AI or high-end graphics development.

>>713331356
If you want to purchase anything long term in America, you have to abide the Jew (Credit) Score. The best practice to have is to only buy things you can afford, put it on your credit card, and pay it all off at the end of the month. So many Americans fail this simple task.

>>713331410
Guess it depends on what you class as "low end".

>>713331398
>>713331410
so buy a console

>>713331448
Or, you know, you can just save some money and buy the shit when you have the cash and avoid the credit jew altogether.

Niggers should put 5090s as spinners on their rims so flauntfags can stop pretending that there isn't at least 1.5k of overspending butthurt in that price.

>>713331529
my credit card gives cash back on every purchase i make so by using it like a normal person I get free money from the bank.

>>713331529
That's quite tough to do if you want to buy a car or house in America. A car you can finance with 0% APR, but saving up $750k or higher to buy a house is no simple task.

>>713331579
>I think I'm so important that other people buy things just to flaunt it to me
lol

>>713331640
Thank god my house only was 250k when I bought it with cash and as a bonus it's now worth 500k.
All it took was 1/3 of one of my investment accounts.

>>713299061
AI sloppers actually better off buying 2 3090
only VRAM matter

>>713331610
>pay interest over loaned money
>get 2% cashback
>"hurr durr free money dude"

>having a dick waving competition over buying a house when you can't afford a 5090
ha ha

I do high refresh rate 1440p gaming. Why would I need a -90 card over an -80 card? Seems like a waste, especially since the money of a -90 card would be like 80% of the money for two (2) different generations of -80 cards

>>713331389
No insecurities needed, just basic financial knowledge based on how expensive the "thing" is that you have bought. Here is a AI explaining it to you

Budgeting Guidelines
Personal Budgeting: Most financial experts recommend using your net income for budgeting. The popular 50/30/20 rule suggests 50% for needs, 30% for wants, and 20% for savings and debt repayment. A GPU purchase would typically fall under "wants" or "personal/discretionary" spending.

Discretionary Spending: For discretionary (non-essential) purchases like a GPU, guidelines often suggest spending no more than 5–10% of your monthly net income on these kinds of expenses. However, for a one-time large purchase like a GPU, you might use a portion of your savings or a special fund.

>>713331720
Not everyone has $750k worth of investments. It's like saying "you can avoid being poor if you were born rich".

>>713331736
It's baffling how many amerigoys fall for this cam.

>>713301442
Well yes, because the tech was newer and PCs in general cost an arm an a leg in the 90s even without the extra hardware. Nowadays, there's no reason for GPUs to be as expensive as outside of the very blatant price gouging NVIDIA is doing because computer parts have been reasonably cheap up until 2017, when a bunch of meme shortages due to crypto/AI etc artificially thrust the price up due to their demand, along with actual shortages.

Saying that your computer in the 90s was expensive means jackshit when the general trend after the technology was more mature was for it to be between $200-$600 (maybe $1000 for a high-end one), not fucking $3000

>>713331851
shut up retard. Nobody cares about your autistic financial advice.
I have. You don't. You should be listening to me.

>>713331389
>spare money
No such thing as "spare" money just a roundabout way of saying you have no real plan for money management.

>I buy what I want when I want it. I don't have to discuss it or plan my spending
Exactly what I figured you are an impulsive buyer, who doesn't manage your money, many such cases.

>It's fun watching you try to build a picture of me when all you're doing is showing your own insecurities
I don't really care if you blow your money or end up in debt but i'm going to point out the stupidity of it if you're on here shilling GPUs or spreading FOMO.

>>713331987
What should I manage money for?

>>713331664
>hundreds of "lol poor" threads to cope with the purchase of a low quality card that would be unreasonably priced at half
>"n-no, it's not flaunting, you are not important"
Uh-huh

>>713331736
i have not paid a single cent of interest on this card, I either take advantage of 0% APR offers or I use it and immediately pay it off, effectively being a debit card with benefits. I then use those rewards towards further purchases. Yes, the trap some fall into is biting off more than they can chew, but to completely dismiss the advantages credit cards offer is foolish. Also realistically you're gonna have to pay interest on something like a home loan anyways unless you luck into an inherited home or somehow never get into any freak accidents or disasters.

>>713331984
Monthly Net Income Calculation

If $3,000 is 5–10% of your monthly net income (which is extremely high, but let’s do the math):

At 5%:

0.05
×
Monthly Income
=
$
3
,
000
Monthly Income
=
$
3
,
000
/
0.05
=
$
60
,
000
0.05×Monthly Income=$3,000
Monthly Income=$3,000/0.05=$60,000
At 10%:

0.10
×
Monthly Income
=
$
3
,
000
Monthly Income
=
$
3
,
000
/
0.10
=
$
30
,
000
0.10×Monthly Income=$3,000
Monthly Income=$3,000/0.10=$30,000
This means, to fit a $3,000 GPU under the 5–10% of your monthly net income rule, you would need to earn between $30,000 and $60,000 per month after taxes. This is unrealistic for most people.

Practical Application
If you want to use the 5–10% rule for monthly discretionary spending, you should not spend $3,000 on a GPU unless your monthly net income is at least $30,000. If you want to use the rule for annual discretionary spending, you would need an annual net income between $30,000 and $60,000 for $3,000 to be between 10% and 5%—but this is backwards, since $3,000 would be between 5% and 10% of $60,000–$30,000 only if the rule is inverted. For the standard rule:

If $3,000 is 5% of your annual discretionary (wants) budget:

Annual wants budget: $3,000 / 0.05 = $60,000

But using the 50/30/20 rule, 30% of net income is for wants:

Net income: $60,000 / 0.30 ≈ $200,000 per year

Monthly net income: $200,000 / 12 ≈ $16,667

If $3,000 is 10% of your annual discretionary budget:

Annual wants budget: $3,000 / 0.10 = $30,000

Net income: $30,000 / 0.30 ≈ $100,000 per year

Monthly net income: $100,000 / 12 ≈ $8,333

>>713332065
I don't have a net income , retard.
I don't care for your autism either.

>>713332126
People who do not have a net income are generally referred to as without income or having no income. In official classifications, terms like "without income" are used to describe individuals who report no earnings or net income at all. In the context of social class or economic status, they may also be described as part of the underclass or, in some classifications, as non-earners or dependent on social assistance

>>713332065
>idiot learned how to grok

>>713332176
ai response

Jealousy over unaffordable things often stems from a mix of psychological and social factors. Humans naturally compare themselves to others, and seeing someone with something desirable—like wealth, status, or possessions—can trigger feelings of lack or unfairness. This is amplified when people feel they’re stuck, unable to bridge the gap due to financial or social barriers. The emotion isn’t just about the object but what it represents: security, success, or social standing.

Scarcity mindset plays a role too—when resources seem limited, others’ gains feel like personal losses. Social media and consumer culture can intensify this by constantly showcasing lifestyles that feel out of reach, making the disparity sting more. Some psychological studies, like those based on social comparison theory, suggest people feel jealousy when they perceive others as “better off” in areas that matter to them, especially if they feel entitled to or capable of having it but are blocked by circumstance.

>>713331801
>people who are rich have lots of money in their bank accounts
This is how you give yourself away as someone who is too poor to even know how tax structure works and how paying capital gains is more preferable than paying tax on large sums of money in a bank account.

>>713328150
hello (snipping tool fucks up the brightness, looks better on my monitor)

>>713332316
I'm not in USA d>>713332316
>>people who are rich have lots of money in their bank accounts
who said this?

>>713332285
Why Do People Lash Out Over Bad Spending Habits?
Financial Stress:
Money is a major source of stress. When someone overspends, it can create anxiety for others who share financial responsibilities.

Broken Trust:
Repeated bad spending can feel like a betrayal, especially if there was an agreement to stick to a budget.

Different Values:
People have different priorities. One person might value saving, while another prioritizes spending on experiences or gadgets.

Fear of Consequences:
Poor spending can lead to debt, missed bills, or less money for important things like rent, food, or savings.

>>713332389
>no you're lashing out because you can afford things
lol your cope is off the charts

>>713332389
https://youtu.be/gPpC7KKVC5k

>>713332010
Home
Bills
Retirement
Investment
Family
Risk Mitigation

Even billionaires manage their money or hire people to do it for them. But i'm sure you will claim you are a loner badass with no family, eternal perfect health, and nothing bad could ever happen in your life to cause large unforeseen expenses.

>>713332573
>Home
paid for
>Bills
so small doesn't matter
>Retirement
I retired early
>Investment
yes got some
>Family
what about them?
>Risk Mitigation
lol fuck off retard

all this over a gpu. anon you really are a huge faggot

>>713298089 (OP)
this question is retarded
it's like asking who the fuck can afford cars
anybody can afford this shit, at the end of the day the question is if you're really retarded enough to buy a gpu for 2k5 dollars

>>713314714
>As a software tester my salary is 14k USD a year, my pc with a 4090 was around 4k
why the fuck did you buy a 4K pc if your yearly salary is 14k lmao

>>713301461
Literally installed my 5080 today. Upgraded from a 2080. It's great.

>>713332874
To be fair, even a multi millionaire who has made his riches from selling socks would look at a 3k GPU or 4k PC and think: "hey that's kinda retarded"

>>713305524
digital foundry fagots disgust me.
y'all wall lickers are what made gaming industry as fucked as it is now

>>713298089 (OP)
Professionals who cant afford RTX PROs

I just wanna mod elder scrolls vi bros but sadly that game will be guaranteed shit

Will i bottleneck my cpu if i get this? i have the 12900k

>>713298089 (OP)
>Just what kind of people can even afford this?
Streamers.
They literally write it off as a business expense.

anyone who isn't retarded can afford a graphics card

>>713333548
The epitome of "diminishing returns". Even Jensen acknowledges the 4090 as the "best investment anyone can make"

>>713335182
Is it really though? Just did an admittedly very shallow search on amazon and i see a 5090 being almost a hundred bucks cheaper than a 4090.

>have a decent job but requires me to live in the city
>get paid well but small apartment
>no room for a desk, chose to keep my piano instead
>laptops only
>have a 4090 laptop, very happy with it
>tempted still to upgrade to the 5090 ones because of the OLED panels many of them have
>look up 5090 mobile reviews
>according to benchmarks and LTT it's at best 10% faster than the 4090 and in some games slower
So what do I do? I'm not paying 5k for a new laptop with no discernable improvements besides the screen. It stands to reason since the 50k barely adds any new technology, besides just increasing power and paywalling some software. I've considered getting one of those high res micro-oled VR headsets coming out this year, but not sure it would even work like that, i.e. would be able to play flat games on a big screen in HDR via Steam VR.

>>713335473
>>have a 4090 laptop, very happy with it
aren't 4090 laptops a huge scam? like their performance improvement over 4080 laptops gpu are really weak from what i've seen
I had an offer for a 2500 bucks 4090 laptop but I didn't take it since it just seemed too expensive imo

>>713332874
I just saved some money for around 2 years before I got my pc. It's not like I have something else to do with my money aside from paying the bills and buying groceries kek

>>713298089 (OP)
>$3k on a gpu to play bing bing wahoo
I don't think I need more than a 3080

>>713335953
retard

>>713313025
it literally is

>>713335182
You do realize people are dismantling GPU's and shipping them without cores and/or memory, right?

I just bought pic related, can't wait to play some video games!

>>713335461
You do realize people are dismantling GPU's and shipping them without cores and/or memory, right? I wouldn't trust any Amazon sold GPU's that aren't sold directly by Amazon and even then I would only get the FE as it unironically is the best value for the price.

>start saving 20$ a month and be able to buy AMD's 2nd best GPU in 5-10 years
I hope my dad will still be working in America, so I can pay him to get it for me. No way I'm paying for GPU prices in my country.

>>713335637
Mobile 4090 is about 25% faster than the mobile 4080. It's lower price to performance but it's still noticeably better and with 4gb more VRAM too. 5090 laptop still has 16gb and hardly performs better at all.

>>713336729
this part also tips me off, why the fuck are the laptop 4090/5090 only 16gb

>>713336202
manli is fucking ass, cheap components, missing phases, no oc capability whatsoever

>>713336729
a mobile 4090 is a desktop 3090 with less vram

Nvidia sama save me AIEEEEEE

>>713318503
NOOOO I need to exclusively play this 15yo game with silly physx implementation nooooo

>>713298564
truth nuke

>>713337229
>gpu
>oc

>>713337229
>cheap components
you can say that again...

>>713298089 (OP)
>Just what kind of people can afford painting, photography, skiing, woodworking - all of which are vastly more expensive hobbies
oh right, normal people with jobs
hell, when you see girls horseback riding, the maintenance of those horses probably costs the same as buying a 5090 every month

>>713305857
dlss4 has forced sharpening that you cannot disable. the lighting ghosts with dlss4. look at the flickering on shadows. it basically looks wrong compared to fsr4.

>>713298089 (OP)
people with an adult salary but nothing adult to spend it on
e.g. me

>>713339573
complaining about things you don't own is a pretty bad cope

>>713339721
bot post? you replied wrong.

>>713339627
You should be saving it for your rent or house or whatever and vehicle/food. Nothing else matters now. I’m saving up now just in case my NEETbux run out so the apartment Jews can’t evict me when my parents die.

>>713339573
Why on earth would you use upscalers or temporal rendering in a game with anime/cartoon visuals? Makes no sense. You shouldn't even need antialiasing beyond the most basic forms.

>>713340059
that game has raytracing. msaa is not a option.

>>713298089 (OP)
Same kind that buys expensive cars, dentists and trailer park inhabitants. Just of the computer interest kind.

>>713298089 (OP)
I don't spend my money on a wife or family, have no debts, have a well paying job and I don't have any hyper expensive hobbies that empty my wallet. I walk around my house in cheap tshirts and old slippers. I put approximately 4 thousand bucks aside every month, after a few months of work it's very easy to afford a top of the line PC.

>>713309237
It you're only going to game then AMD IF it's MSRP and Nvidia isn't under MSRP. If the prices are close always choose Nvidia. If you do other things then gaming then skip AMD as well.

>>713298185
Cool it with the Antisemitism bro.

>>713339925
@grok explain how people can live like this

take the mid range pill
>cheap enough for literal neet to afford
>you'll get 144 fps in games that matter just fine
>not loud, low electric usage
>use saved money and time on food and gym

peruvian 3rd worlder
I own 2 5090
1 4090
1 3090ti
1 3090
1 2080ti
1 1080

>>713298338
sorry not everyone is a nepobaby

Nvidia gpus can be used for fluid simulations and a bunch of other heavy tasks, for gaming the 5090 is basically a waste of money.

>>713341714
What's up with projections itt?

>>713341381
Life finds a way.

>>713342785
>projection
So you're saying I am in fact a rich nepobaby since I was accusing you of being one?

>>713298338
Have you considered killing yourself because you're a pedophile?

>>713324797
Nigga, there are people that blow three times that on other shit. Cars for example, if you're seriously invested into modding your car, you can easily pass the 3k mark with parts for the engine and what not.
What makes the 5090, and the 4090 for that matter, expensive is that we are paying more and more and getting less and less each time, to the point where its not worth it anymore. Bad games, bad cards with physical defects, shit drivers, fewer features and smaller dyes.

>>713344726
Nigga?

>>713341397
>worrying about food and a gym
/v/ is a certified poverty board and it disgusts me

>>713330449
Starfield.

>>713344767
Ah forgive me...
*ahem*
NIGGER!

>>713344726
I know a fag whose mommy has bought him 4 different BMWs/ audi and he’s totaled 3 of them and claims the insurance money to pay rent
He hasn’t worked a job In his life and he’s 36

>>713344854
Kek

>>713345757
I want a friend like that

>>713330986
In what games specifically?
Everything I've played this year has had an option for zero AA- which is infinitely preferable to the alternative.

>>713344792
so you can't think of any good games either, huh.

went from a 7900 xtx to a 5090, not going back to amd until they get their shit together
>shit drivers
>shit RT performance
>shit upscaler
>shit power draw
>shit video editing software support
>shit clo3d performance
>shit blender performance
paying 15% less to have to suffer this bullshit is absolutely not worth it. i had no idea how bad i had it until i finally switched to nvidia, holy fuck im never buying amd gpus again (the cpus are great tho, love em)

>>713348031
>In what games specifically?
In the vast majority of them? Name 5 3D games from this year that allow you to turn off TAA (bonus points if they still look usable afterwards)

Even if a modern game allowes you turn off TAA odds are that it'll look terrible without it, because most games are now designed with the idea of a temporal layer. This is why turning AA off in STALKER2 for example makes the vegetation look horrifyingly bad. Devs design the LODs, articles, shaders, and distant objects with TAA in mind so they cut corners where they can, but once you lose TAA then it looks awful.

>>713298089 (OP)
I got a 4090 for 2k, I plan to keep it for 4 years, it comes down to $42 a month. Now I'm just saving $50 a month for my next gpu. With luck I could even sell my 4090 for $500

>>713348535
Khazan
AI Limit
Tainted Grail
Stellar Blade
Dolls Nest

>>713298185
It makes more sense if you realize it's as good as two 5080s (you can't compare AMD to NVIDIA yet)

>>713298089 (OP)
I can afford it but I don't need it
This is a strange concept to people in America needing to get anything and everything they can but in Japan this is how people think

>>713348715
buying things on credit is a terrible thing to do
don't fall into that trap

>>713349242
>on credit
I would never, I just put $50 away each month on a separate account, money is not burning my pockets like some people.

>>713349242
don't listen to this moron. building your credit score is one of the most beneficial things you can do

>>713349373
okay

>>713348904
>Khazan
>AI Limit
>Dolls Nest
Anime artstyle that looks more like 2D superimposed over 3D.
>Tainted Grail
>Stellar Blade
Valid, but graphically unambitious games.

So there are 5 games, you have a point, but you'll notice that none of them adhere to the "graphically complex full 3D" dichotomy a lot of console-oriented games follow. And that type of game is almost always designed around TAA.

>>713349373
there is no jewish score in my country

>>713349571
>graphically complex full 3D
what does that even mean?
Something like Remnant 2? It's slightly older but you can disable all AA in the options.

>>713345757
These fags are the worst, worst still when they decide to sell their piece of shit abused tub to someone else. I went out to look for a new car and stumbled on some A3 2005 really cheap, they guy went on saying the car was pristine but was "just a bit smoky", as soon as he hit the ignition the car was smoking harder than a yellowstone locomotive.

>>713349847
>what does that even mean?
Games with the "I'm going for realism and maximum detail" approach that ends up looking like smeared with a temporal layer but garbled & aliased without a temporal layer. Jedi Survivor, Alan Wake 2, Avowed, AC Shadows, Silent Hill 2, Space Marine 2, etc.

>>713350137
From that list, I've only played Jedi Survivor. I'm not at my main PC right now, so I can't load it up to check the settings out.

>>713350224
I have it installed, the game does not let you turn off AA. You can force it off with a mod but the game looks awful without it.

>>713298185
It's got way more than twice the power, plus much better at actual workload stuff like 3d rendering
>4-5x the price
Wut, it only costs 2x as much as the 7900 did here

>>713350326
I really can't remember being disgusted by any temporal artifacting it had, but I've also not played it since November.

>>713299435
nigger this overpriced graphics card costs the same as a minor car repair, it's about as small of a purchase you can get without not thinking about it

My 3090 can still run most things above 60 FPS at 4k. Anything that it can't can get the DLSS4 treatment.

>>713298089 (OP)
>Just what kind of people can even afford this?
The people who actually want to?
I know people who spend 10k€ a year on cigarettes + booze alone. I know some who blow on sports / horse races gambling and others on gacha gambling. Some hire escorts. Some go on nice vacations. Some do a combination of all of the above. Hell I just recently spent 6k getting some work done on my car.
Now does that mean the 5090 has good value? Hell no, but for enthusiasts who want the best available it's there. Personally I might have been interested if it didn't have the cable issues because dealing with RMAs is just too annoying and I don't even want to consider that possibility.

>>713352352
lol

I just want to AI gen so I stick with nvidia, AMD its too annoying to setup.

>>713344782
/v/ is a neet board

>>713321681
>A 5070 or 9070xt is already more than what you will ever need.
not when I'm playing AAA games with a VR headset

>be poor with shit pc
>"I'll just tell everyone with a better PC that they're retarded"

>>713298338
>all this seethe
good job anon kek