AVA IS DEAD
THIS GAME IS YOUR 2025 GOTY

If she's actually dead then it's a day 3 Wikipedia summary read for sure maybe

source on death

Shes in the game so maybe she will die but you'll hate it this time because they will give her great character growth even though no one likes her period

>>713362602
>>713362607
just trust me chuds
>story trailer
>no ava
>no tannis
>no lilith
>amara is going around with ava's pet
She's dead

>>713362710
They'll tease her death but she'll live and there'll be a lot of passive aggressive dialogue about it pointed at everyone who hates her.

>>713362724
lillith is in the game though. Finding her was in the quest they showed off a month or two ago

>>713364323
Yeah but she's also dead

>>713362401 (OP)
I watched some gameplay the other day, looks okay. More of the same really. Cannot for the life of me workout why they got rid of the mini map.
Utterly bizarre design choice.

>>713362401 (OP)
Remember when the series aped the mad max aesthetic? The fuck is this shit?

>>713365279
as long as the load time to open the map is sub half a second, then I dont entirely mind the top of hud skyrim style waypointing

is that not ava on the cover, just a bit older? like that's her right?

>>713362401 (OP)
I see a nigger on the cover.
Sorry Randy, you know the rules, no buy.

>>713365727
no that's VEX (it rhymes with SEX)

>>713365279
They're adding a combat minimap you can turn on at least which is nice.

>>713365279
I'm more confused by the weird double downing they've been doing in defense of it. Some of the excuses make no sense like randy saying a mini map would drastically ruin performance

>>713366343
it's probably a pain to implement
desu I only check the minimap to see if i missed some legendaries

>>713362724
This is too much to hope for.
One of the first quests is to find lilith. If they do retcon ava and the associated dogshit plot I might actually give the game a shot.

>>713362401 (OP)
did they bleach the viking guy?
wasn't he a brown muslim in the reveal?

>>713367325
no was always white

>>713362401 (OP)
No psycho?

>>713369135
There's a fine gloss on the physical box because (you) are the Psycho ™ for buying it. Sorry digitalbros. You gotta use your screen reflection.

why do you faggots care about the story

>>713372634
yeah I don't get why people care either. If the story is shit, just skip it. Just judge it by the gameplay

>>713365727
That's totally Ava who changed her name

>>713362401 (OP)
Who's top mid?
Crazy that the only good character is the viking

>>713372634
A bad story can, and will, drag down the experience
>just skip it
you can't skip some of the dialog that never fucking stops unless you download mods

>>713373338
rafa the operative/assassin character

>>713362401 (OP)
God I wanna be able to enjoy Borderlands again like I did 1 and 2 but its been to long since they've made a good game. I hope it fails and the company finally goes under. Borderlands is their only successful franchise.

Give it to me straight, is S&S back?

3 > Tales > Wonderlands > 2 > TPS > 1 >>>>>>> New Tales

Can't wait for BL4. Will buy it when it's 80-90% for 5-10 bucks and all the bugs are fixed

>>713373908
I was so mad they weren't back in 2. Bandit fucking sucks

>>713362401 (OP)
>BL3: Siren is uggo black muscle girl
>BL4: Siren is cute white goth girl
Did Pitchford somehow become based in the last 6 years or something?

>>713374352
She was worse than a Nigress
She was a Jeetina

>>713374352
>that thing
>white

>>713373938
>3 higher than anything

2 is the only good games you retarded nigger

>>713373908
No, you've got Daedalus now which makes guns that shoot two ammo types.

>>713374663
>Best combat in the entire franchise (prior to BL4)
>Best build diversity and skill trees (BL4 looks to be better though)
>Best endgame content (again, BL4 looks to be the best in this regard)
>Best gun design and manufacturers
>Best campaign DLCs in the franchise (overall, best is arguarbly Tiny Tina or Claptastic Voyage)
>Miles easier to farm for guns than any other game (after Eridium reroll was introduced)
3 is miles better than the other games in terms of gameplay, not even Wonderlands comes close.

BL4 might get the crown though, they're doing a lot of good stuff with it.

>>713362401 (OP)
Yea not playing bnwo vax anti-chud propaganda trash even if 2k said they stopped doing it

>>713375617
3's story is so dogshit I can't be bothered to replay it, whereas I can replay 2 regularly. I was being hyperbolic in my post but I would rate 2 over 3.

>>713376001
Having to go through the story 3 times per character just to get to uvhm fucking blows.

>>713374352
her action skills seem pretty lame though except for the one that lets you use eldritch blast. cant seem to find any footage of people using it though

>>713373908
no they replaced dahl too

>>713374352
Amara is cute you dumb retarded weeb bitch
>>713373938
Holy based weebgod, I kneel

>>713376140
Fair but like I said I can replay it regularly. I can't do that with 3, the story annoyed me too much.

BL3 is the best because you can play as the best VH of all time

>>713376601
That's not Gaige
Moze is cool though

>>713376714
you can use deathtrap in bl3

>>713376601
Zane was much more fun

>>713376995
Huh?!

>>713376001
3's overall story is pretty bad (the Calypso stuff, the planet conflicts like Rhys vs Katagawa, Eden-6...all that is fine IMO), but 2's three playthrough system, awful scaling, terrible endgame (Slag + OP levels are cancer) makes me wanna die just thinking about it.

2's strong point is the campaign, but is complete ass once you finish it. 3 becomes amazing once you finish the campaign and can focus on the good shit (takedowns, trials, slaughterhouses...) + all the great DLCs.

>>713377159
deathtrap is in the gay dlc but they don't do shit lmao

>>713362401 (OP)
do i need to play 3 before 4

>>713365842
>>713372953
can wait for vex to demand 50 barves for deadnaming

>>713372854
>If the story is shit, just skip it
kinda hard to skip when the door wont open and quest wont progress until you sit through the mandatory two minutes of verbal diarrhea

>>713377913
*can't

>>713378064
Missing the forest for the trees.

>>713372634
whats the point of playing a game at all if you don't care about the story and characters?

>>713378201
the trees are shit and the forest is not worth it

wild west dlc was kinda cool tho

>>713362401 (OP)
>Even the boxart still images look like they were rendered on a ps4
*hurk* "modern gaming" everyone.

I still think Athena was the most fun character to play as in any of these games.

why does the girl in the middle look disjointed

>a chink a nig an albino and a jeet
oh boy i cant wait to see what the final two vault hunters are

>>713378421
You're too stupid to understand a common idiom. It's over for you.

>>713367325
no they made the negress girl boss and gave the chuds their white viking man but made him a onions

>>713362401 (OP)
I will only play as Gaige, Moze and Vex

>>713378760
whatever you say, bl3 writer

>>713374061
...why? S&S had nothing going for it.

I'm male but I played as Lilith in BL1, Maya in BL2 and Athena in the Pre Sequel.

>>713378752
Rafa's actually Mexican. A bunch of Youtubers showcased his skill tree and there were a bunch of random Spanish words in there.

>The retard with the giant pants is a Traunt, maliwan combat scientist girlboss supergenious hackergirl exxxtreme
im tired of rope-haired riri williams already
>>713379032
oh, well thats noticably better, i guess.

I don't know what character to pick as they all look underwhelming.

>>713379742
you should pick the totally badass nordic warrior
>whose actually an albino brown and is a giant teddy bear with a poets soul and is very non-threatening and non-toxically-masculine and tells his friends stories to uplift their spirits

i never tried Siren in these games, i might do it with this one

What siren powers did commandant Steele have?

>>713378760
>if you don't agree with me it's because you don't understand what I'm saying
no, retard, it's because the retarded shit you are saying is retarded, retard.

>>713373938
This is bait.
You can tell by the ranking being mostly right, except for the obvious 2 for 3 swap.

>>713379941
Same. I always go for the assassin-like character (which have been males so far). I think I will go with the siren in this one.

>>713362401 (OP)
i unironically like borderlands and dont care what /v/ thinks

>>713378296
Because 3 and Tiny Tina's are the best playing entries and I don't care for the stories in the Bordershits games.

>>713379903
I made a bet with my buddy the Viking is going to be gay or at the very least bi. There is no way they will release this game with a straight, white, male character.

>>713380457
>This is bait.
We know your post is. No need to tell us outright.

>>713377014
Zane, Zer0, Mordecai
They always are the fun class ime.
Which is a shame because I would like to play as a magic flavored character too (which I only did in wonderlands).

>>713380885
BUT MUH DEEP EMOTIONAL CONNECTION WITH THE HECKIN LORE

>>713381049
Zane doesn't fit that archetype.

I wouldn't even hate ava (that much) if they didn't kill Maya in the most boring predictable way to facilitate her """growth""".

>>713381226
Zane is the most fun AND is an operative, which is close enough to the other character's archetype.

>>713378752
a trans

>>713380056
asembling a key and same powers as lilith cause alpha concept she was lilith

>>713376001
I understand the hate for 3's story, but I do. Kt understand being fine with 2's or even being able to stomach multiple playthroughs of that shit. No joke, some of the worse written garbage I have ever suffered through and I can't believe people were okay with Burch actively shitting on every single character from 1.

>>713362401 (OP)
Are they going to fix the horrid performance of BL3?

If she gets domed like 5 minutes in after being a terrible leader I will consider buying on sale; if she exists at all, I will never buy on principle.

>this will make people want to buy our game

>>713381636
I realized I was retarded since she has to exist to die, so I will tolerate the 5 minutes leading up to her death.

>>713380056
>Steele didn't get tentacle raped by the destroyer
what a waste. that thing should 100% have a bone to pick with sirens

>>713381374
>Mord
Sniper
>Zer0
Sniper
>Zane
Not a sniper

>>713380096
Kek got his retarded ass

>>713381589
1 is the best written entry in the series. fortunately no one plays these games for the writing

>>713381802
I can snipe with Zane.
Maybe you are autistically overfixating on one particular, non-essential, and contingent element associated to the broader archetype I originally meant?

>>713381589
Handsome Jack makes 2 a lot more entertaining than 3.

>>713381589
Cut them some slack: they played it when they were 9 and thought bonerfart was the funniest thing ever.

>>713381967
STOP UNIRONICALLY LIKING HANDSOME JACK, CHUD!

>>713376601
Moze deleting everything with rocket launchers was my favorite playstyle of all Borderlands so far.

>>713381932
I can snipe with Moze and Amara but am not stupid enough to group either of them with the snipers.

>>713382106
You keep doing the autism thing...
kinda sad to witness so clearly

>>713382037
Evil dads are always charismatic and no amount of homicidal bitch psycho daughters can deny it. But I am curious about how often this trope keeps popping up and I get to see some unruly retard bitch get pissed and get as deranged or more than daddy dearest but suddenly because dad's a sicko this means that she's allowed to be a retarded rabid animal.

>>713378610
TPS had some of the best class kits.
123 classes all have mostly fire&forget skills and skill trees that just multiply numbers and make it so you don't really have to shoot as much or accurately or care for elemental effects.

>>713378943
kinda gay ngl

>>713381731
Where's the 4???

I'm unironically kind of hopeful for this one bros.
The Vault hunters all look decent, even the blackie is a Truant so there's a 0.01% chance she'll actually be really funny.

>>713381731
Looks AI generated

>>713362401 (OP)
>2025
>Borderlands
Please, stop...

>>713362401 (OP)
She is literally on the cover??

>>713382310
inside randy pendrive

>>713381731
It's not horrible box art but it's no BL/BL2.

>>713362401 (OP)
>caring about Borderlands after 2
>giving Gearbox money
Why are you faggots like this?

>>713382384
Did randy really get his paid shills to call some character "the blackie"?

>>713382513

>>713382154
>Ahh, I love playing as Mordecai. His mix of sniping and pets is the best.
>Zer0 turning invisible and sniping is cool too.
>The character that's most like that in 3? Why, Zane of course!
You are retarded.

>>713382562
I'm a poor nigga in a third world country.
Please buy BL4 so Randy pays me a living wage.

>>713382518
>thinks i'll pay to play the game
you are a fool

Cope more, borderlands is a beloved franchise with almost 100 million copies sold and a movie. 4 will sell amazing even at 130 USD with two DRM. Real fans will make it hapen.

>>713362401 (OP)
>claptrap
but some random /v/ poster claimed claptrap was removed

>>713382739
Well I guess you learned a valuable lesson about not trusting anonymous people on the internet.

>>713382518
Give me another persistent, offline looter shooter that is even half as good as Borderlands on the gameplay side.
You can't. Any potential competitors are always-online.

>>713382562
she cool

>>713382457
That's Vex, a new vault hunter.

>>713382562
kek I got that shill feeling too.

I no longer care about diabloclone rpgshit aspect but gun generator is still kinda cool. Borderlands 5 could be cool if they made it grimier, edgier, removed rpg garbage and gave guns durability so that you keep cycling through them despite no levels. Damage etc would be simulated according to dimensions of the round fired. Higher tier guns would have higher quality parts and thus jam less, have more durability, be more accurate with easier reloads and some rare attachments

>>713382830
I know in my heart that she's going to be a boring "I'm not like the others in my family" nerd but I'm praying they have her be a little bit of a chud to remind people that the family is genuinely cursed.

So what's the deal with the spyware shit? Is it a nothingburger EULA update where they're just saying they -could- do it but didn't or is it actually something?

>>713382792
People are saying that the market is flooded with generic looter shooters but where are they? The only competition for borderlands is fucking density...and that shit is actual cancer.

>>713362401 (OP)
why are people still hunting vaults? all of the best loot seems to just pop out of random bandits on backwater planets anyways

>>713382871
New vault hunter (grown up Ava with new name)

>>713383061
it's your standard eula shit, the biggest nothingburger ever
im pretty sure they just changed the eula to what gtav was using for like the last 10 years

>>713383073
Same reason many countries still rely on coal.
They're stupid and just buy into what's being sold to them.

>>713383182
>its a nothingburger
>please ignore them hiding a second in-house DRM in 4
>and scrubbing any proof of them doing so
>and banning people from steam forums that ask about Symbiote

>>713383073
Vaults promise power that is stronger than bullets.
Well, promised. I don't know why people are still doing it when every vault opened contained some bigass space horror and it should be common knowledge by now that they're prisons, not sources of power.

>>713383061
It was a blanket EULA change for all the existing games but none of them were actually updated when it happened.
Of course there's still the possibility that Borderlands 4 will include all these invasive changes lined out in the updated EULA, otherwise why would they change it in the first place?

>>713383320
Captain scarlets pirate booty has a vault with some good loot in it though

>>713372634
>>713372854
If you played BL3 without the mod that came out a year later that let you skip 90% of the dialogue you'd understand why.
Or maybe your brain and eyes just glazed over for 3-4 minutes every time they opened your mouth and shat out another load of complete bullshit of exposition and trash story development that you weren't allowed to reject or skip.

>>713383398
See
>>713383259
They're full on hiding the existence of their in-house DRM/anti-cheat in BL4.

>>713383073
There's still some useful stuff inside of them like the eredium breaker and translation device. It's also a good idea to kill any insane monster or souped up Guardian inside so they don't rampage across the planet and because it's fun.

>>713383073
The vaults are supposed to have untold riches and potential power. The few that got opened were just the bad ones, the next one is sure to have cool stuff in it. The guns are just a stand-in for gameplay purposes.
They should bring back Eridian Weapons.

>>713383259
But what about the older games?

>>713374352
Shes NOT BLACK
Jahy you failed me for the LAST time

>>713362401 (OP)
Ugly female characters

>>713383702
they weren't updated

>>713383582
You are retarded. They're required to disclose all DRM per Steam policy.

>>713383259
>please ignore them hiding a second in-house DRM in 4

Oh Symbiote is now the new retarded talking point I see, well the game is not out yet, so you're just schizo posting the reasons for the removal on the steam page, could be a number of reasons.

>>713383785
It was there. They removed the steam notification.

>>713383756
And BL4 is not out, so you don't know what will they use beside Denuvo.

>>713383785

>>713383073
Lore wise they usually have some crazy tech that would allow you to become a galactic super power or irridium resources. The real question is why so many vaults are on Pandora? There's like 8 on a single planet more if you count its moon.

>>713383946
So they aren't hiding anything. Cool.

>>713383969
Pandora is the prison of the destroyer, the big bad that can destroy the universe

>>713384098
It's no longer there, retard.

>>713365415
>brown-and-grey is le good now

Plenty of things to critique about Borderlands, but that is not one of them.

>>713362401 (OP)
>AVA IS DEAD
gonna need proofs

>>713384141
So they updated the steam page, how is that hiding again?

>>713383062
>density
I was excited for a moment because I thought that was a new looter shooter I didn't know about.

>>713384141
Which obviously means it won't include it, unless they change it again in the coming months.

You guys ARE paying $50USD more for the skins and two vault hunters right? You're not broke boys, right?

>>713372953
And race too? Because the new siren looks latina and Ava was asian

>>713384559
I'm going to wait five years for BL4 to go for $4

>>713384613
>the new siren looks latina
ladies and gentlemen
proof the people defending/shilling borderlands 4 are actually fucking blind retards

>>713384559
Bro paying for the deluxe or super deluxe has to be the most retarded thing ever, you can just upgrade it later.

>>713377801
I played 3 and dont recall anything from the story
Its irrelevant

>>713377801
nyo

>>713384667
Whatever you say

>>713377801
Kinda, the story continues but you can also just ignore it i guess

>>713384824
her eyes are literally fucking diagonal you blind retard

>>713362401 (OP)
>AVA IS DEAD
nah she's right there front and center

>>713383073
lore wise (changes a lot) say that the vaults not only contain loot like money or the purple shit but also a way to amass a lot of power, this is never shown in game of course

>>713383702
>Don't accept terms
>Don't get spyware in my game

>>713383073
The thrill!

>>713383202
It's cheap and uses existing infrastructure?

This installments Siren looks sexy as fuck, I look forward to the literal floodgates of porn of her to be broken open but I will unfortunately never play another Basedderbugchaselands ever again because they're insufferably awful and gay.

>>713383202
Tell that to the Germans reopening their coal power plants, still more reliable than sun and wind apparently.

I refuse to believe anyone on this earth ever truly, sincerely, genuinely, excitedly wants a new Borderlands installment.

>>713385464
I refuse to believe anyone thinks like you do.

>>713382384
The vault hunters are the most boring they've ever presented

>>713385558
>he doesnt like albino almond-milk-kratos

I'm not saying they are the same person but

>>713385548
You take cock up the associated so naturally, your opinion is trash. Back to your Discord bunker, tranny.

>>713385701
>associated
Autocorrect his hilariously fucking shit, Jesus Christ..

>>713385676
Shes not.
She was going to be, but then randy bobandy realized how much people fucking hate Ava. So now Ava is the leader of the resistance.

>>713362401 (OP)
Who gives a shit, just make WL2.

this game has made /v/ seethe for almost 20 (twenty) years.

>>713385464
The inability to understand other people's opinions and perspectives is a common symptom of autism.

>>713386072
>I love reddit humor as well as scarfing down wet shit and bug chasing
I'm well aware that faggots exist, thank you very much.

>>713385773
Yeah but they could've at least changed her more. They have the same facial structure and eyebrows.

Im playing through Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and this is some of the most horrendous garbage I have played in my life. Atrocious unskippable dialogue, troons you are forced to kneel to, la goblina NPCs, weak gunplay. Do people actually like this godawful series?

BRING BACK SNS, DALH AND ATLAS, YOU SHITS

>>713386252
>he doesnt like le heckin vroom vroom brrrbrrr rooty tooty pooter shooters
uh oh stinky

>>713386241
Wonderlands isnt a series it's a standalone game.

>>713365000
Prove it.

>>713385773
I hope the game releases and shes confirmed dead randomly in some throwaway line and never acknowledged again.

>>713386241
Play Australian Lesbians On The Moon edition afterwards.

>>713362401 (OP)
I dunno if this is a "hottake" byt people who think Ava "ruined" Borderlands are people that played the second gamew when they were in middle school and just refuse to accept the thing they liked as a kid is kinda shit.

Don't get me wrong, Ava fucking sucks dick. But in terms of "stupid cunt that fucks people over yet the narrative excpect us to root for" characters, Lilith is still worse and in terms of "Dumb stupid unfunny kid character game tries to push as the fan favorite" Tiny is still worse.

Ava sucks but....so those 60% of all trhe characters in this franchise. She's not even unique in the way she sucks.

>>713362401 (OP)
i dont evenr eemember who ava is

>>713385773
She is and I look forward to all the retards shitting their pants over a milquetoast character again.

>>713386329
Those are fine, but I want "normal" guns too.

>>713386547
Daedalus is pretty "normal"

>>713386465
>ava fucking sucks dick
if that was true shed be top tier
instead the only thing going into or coming out of her mouth is retardation

>>713362724
>Whiny bitch protagonist who can do no wrong
>Dying in the Girlboss Era
You are high as fuck, bro.

>>713386241
it's fun
pity the dlcs are dogshit

>>713386465
I agree but then you also have people who think Jack was ever a good guy.

>>713383061
What do you mean? The PC version of Borderlands 4 comes with kernel-level DRM. Or are you referring to something else?

>>713387002
>Kernel-level DRM
wow that sounds awful anon why would-
>its just denuvo
who cares stop crying your phone spies on you you probably use windows just shutup and take it youll buy it anyway

>>713383061
>>713383182
>>713383398
>>713383785
>>713383793
>>713383914
>>713384098
>>713384213
>>713384440
Hello 2K employee

>>713387090
>who cares
Absolute goyim post.

BL4 is going to be kino

>>713387297
this, if my pc can run it

>>713387247
>lil chud seething
Sorry if I don't waste my time getting mad over the biggest nothingburger ever, I'm sure you retards will cry this hard when GTA6 comes to PC

>>713382310
his left hand

If the rumors of Claptrap being removed are true why do we have to recycle the same characters? Like the old vault hunters and characters are so fucking lame. The novelty of meeting the old vault hunters is old now.

>>713382830
Gravitard?

>>713387567
Claptrap is literally in the game footage giving you missions

>>713382518
Its a shilling thread done by gearbox, it always happens whenever theres a new Borderlands game
Watch this:
That picture of Randy Pitchford kneeling in a bathroom is actually at Penn Jillete's bathroom

How is the bar so low for looter shooters yet nobody has managed to make a proper one that rivals borderlands?
>no roguelike elements
>no GAAS elements
It's that simple. Just make a dedicated campaign you can play through alone or with friends and have a decent amount of side content/end game activities to grind for. I'm also fine with roguelike stuff in it for side activities, but don't make the whole game ONLY that.

>>713386465
ava is just a snotty fuckface teenager but she never grows up until literally the last scene of the game

I don't care about Bordertrans since they killed Maya.

>>713386252
I want S&S to return as a very rare manufacturer that only makes a handful of Unique Legendary guns. Like it downsized to S&S Accessories, but now there's just one old nutjob in a garage making the most no-bullshit effective machine guns under the S&S name. Give them a throwback effect that basically hasn't been present since BL1: Team Ammo Regen to go with the huge mag sizes.
Pretty sure Daedalus is what Dahl has evolved into. Though I do like the way Dahl turned out visually in 3. The 'sleeker' look of Daedalus isn't really as appealing.
Atlas (classic) sucked as it was just a lesser S&S, and Atlas's (New) seeking bullets kinda suck, that gimmick that could easily fit into other manufacturers.

>>713387813
Bro Ava is literally going to be Maya 2.0

I don't care about Borderlands since they killed Scooter.

>>713386170
No one plays Borderlands games for the story.

>>713387567

finna watch the nba finals
bye losers

Name ONE video game franchise more aggressively GAY and INSUFFERABLE than the Borderlands franchise.

>>713388342
Trap shrine/legend/world

>trusting randy bitchford
>ever

>>713388342
horizon

>>713388342
mario

>>713388318
>them
you can kill but heaven forbid you mispronoun

>>713388381
>VN
Not a video game.

>>713388493
Beautiful Frank is trans actually.

>>713388342
The last of us

>>713388342
Undertale/Deltarune

>>713388453
Disingenuous contrarian retard

>>713388318
>attention.??
ESL.??

>>713388606
feeling called out???

>>713387741
Because Scooter wrote some neat lore way back and it gave the series an identity.

>>713388572
how can you kill frank then

the quest is a trap

and probably so is frank

>>713388643
I'm sure you are.

>>713388913
I know you are but what am i?

>>713388580
Seconding this, no video game franchise that I know of spawned a TV show with a hour long episode of two bearded men fucking each other in the ass.

>>713362401 (OP)
i'm kinda over this shit, if i'm being honest. Wonderlands and Battleborn had the right idea trying to open the series up a little with some new equipment and mechanics and evolving hero kits. now we're just back to being the same FPS i've already played 4 times.

Borderlands feels very much like a franchise stuck in the 2010s

>>713384154
Nta but you can do motorhead shit with color

>>713386465
BL2's story was passable, and people can appreciate a game more when only a few things about it are bad.

BL3's story was bad from start to finish, and the introduction of Ava made it all the worse.

A story that is meh is 10x better than an unbearably shit one.

>Ava sucks but....so those 60% of all trhe characters in this franchise.
Yeah, but the 40% of good characters more than makes up for it and makes it tolerable. Most people can remember the character's names in BL1 and BL2, but do people even remember the names of the Vault Hunters in BL3 off the top of their head?

>>713388634
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention
What seems to be the problem, officer?

>>713380056
jobbing

>>713389237
Yeah and it doesn't do any of the good things from that era

>>713389436
>What seems to be the problem,! officer.??
Absolutely nothing.#

>>713376001
Same. Hell I'll take Pre-Sequel over 3.

3 has amazing gameplay, but it's just shit story wise.

How do characters die? We always respawn when we "die" because of some corporation machine so how come a character can be killed for plot reasons?

>>713390731
They shoot you with guns that revoke your health insurance.

>>713390731
Uh Jack removed Roland from the New-U system (it's Hyperion branded)

>>713390731
New-U stations are non-canon.

Borderlands games have a story?

i never even played 3
should i?

>>713365747
That British nigger bitch in Borderlands 3 might unironically be the most vile thing !y ears have ever experienced
I think just listening to that cunt for 5min cut my lifespan in half
Its actually even more grading that the cringe streamer duo

>the absolute fucking consooomers itt that are going to buy this slop
insane

>>713391097
Do you like the previous games?

>>713391167
>the british nigger bitch in borderlands 3
who the fuck are you talking about

>>713378813
That bloated looking bara faggot is less Viking that a reddit mod

>>713391097
it is good to play. get the mod that auto-skips all dialogue and cutscenes. you're not missing anything.

>>713390731
New-U got retconned out of spite into a non-narrative device since one hack of a writer failed to consider them initially.

>>713391335
Vikings are reddit core anyway

>>713391318
The 3rd planet
The one where that cringe redditor from pre sequel hangs around. she is some mercenary shit head or commander or whatever. You do her shit before meeting him

why do the vault hunters have to be ugly now

>>713391671
Your neck is reddit core

>>713391680
you mean the fucking tranny from wonderlands, lorelai or wahtever
the one voice acted by a "white" FTM
the one who babbles about MUH COFFEFEVEFEFE?

>>713391680
You're talking about Lorelei, right? She's not a pre-sequel character.

>>713362401 (OP)
nice spyware you have there

>>713389332
>BL2's story was passable
>A story that is meh is 10x better than an unbearably shit one.
LOL

>>713391671
vikings are cool if they're actually historical and grounded
if it's just the usual god of war shit it is extremely reddit for sure

Dahlbros... how do we cope...

I’ve platinumed BL2, TPS, and BL3, and still have no clue about the story or lore to this day. I play with Nip audio and no subs because I loathe the writings but love the gunplay. BL3 is my favorite since I can skip every cutscene, and it also has the best gunplay. From what little I’ve seen, I absolutely despise Lilith, even though I don’t understand the story. The fact that she’s portrayed as this Siren Jesus in every game really puts me off.

>>713362401 (OP)
Wow did they change the siren? She looks nice now. The black chick still looks gross though

>>713392427
kek based

>>713392342
The new mascot companion is Dahl tech and, even better, he doesn't talk.

boy i sure do hope that more then just 1 class will be viable for raid bosses and super max endgame

>>713392543
you say this like bl3's vault hunters don't exist

>>713392543
They will be until they nerf all the fun shit again

>>713392627
and only 1 was truly super max end game and raid boss viable for solo play in that one too

>>713392719
What? All vault hunters in 3 are ridiculously overpowered and can complete max difficulty endgame content with ease. I could understand having that sentiment at BL3's launch, but this hasn't been the case for most of BL3's lifespan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_YhqN3PHk
nobody likes a bigot, anon.

>>713365727
Most likely not, Ava is probably going to be too story important as the leader of the Crimson Raiders to be a playable character.

>>713392719
MAJOR skill issue

Are they still going to shove in their sense of humor that's been outdated for 13 years?

>>713392427
>I play with Nip audio and no subs
This is actually a genius idea, I wish I had thought of that when they made every single interaction unskippable for BL3.

The art direction for the protagonists has gone massively downhill over the course of this franchise

>>713393062
They had their weird borderlands showcase yesterday and yes it's still got that post modern self aware millennial humor

>>713372634
The games are meant to be replayed multiple times, so having to experience slop like the story of 3 multiple times starts to hammer in how shit the story really is.

>>713392934
This is genuinely the worst video I've ever watched, thank you Randy Pitchford

How many celebrity cameos do you think will be in it? Jack Black is practically guaranteed regardless of how well the movie performed.

>>713372634
The game makes the amazing achievement of making sure that it is always bothering you, you can't skip it, you have to stay still until they finish their quirky jokes, you have to go to X so they can say a joke and then to Y so they can say another.
If you didn't play it, or if you liked the story for some reason you wouldn't get it, but everyone who I talked to who hates the story and played the game has the same problem, they don't shut up and it is always on the way

>>713393190
why are they like this? are they in a time capsule that never left 2012?

based

>>713393423
Until millennials move on to higher management positions this is what you're getting until Zoomers become project leads

>>713372634
Just saying "Just shut your brain off dude! It's a wacky game about shooting and looting!!!" Is dumb. The game constantly bugs you and doesn't let you focus on the core gameplay because of how much the story and writing is placed in front of you.

>>713393301
I watched one scene from the movie on YouTube and he was actually funny as clappy. I bet he’s the only good actor on the show

They really covered the big samoan dude in baby powder, put a mask on the pajeet, and made the nerdy black chick into a slutty black chick in response to the initial back lash huh? Absolutely spineless.

>>713383320
didnt jack successfuly enslave the dargon,but then you beat it up? its been a long time since i cared about the bl story.

>>713392342
By objectively having the best guns

>>713393682
Good. Nobody likes ugly characters dude. Shame about the black chick though. There's no saving that design

>cant wait for people to find out who voices the black girlboss
>you thought she wasnt in this game
>you fool
>you foolish fool

>>713376302
>replaced dahl

When will people admit that Randall won?

>>713365727
I hope that's ava, or I will not play the game

i like ava because shes hot and i dont care about the story.

>>713374352
>white
anon...

>>713393871
I love randy. We are all randy.

>>713393938
To be fair. They did make her prettier

did they actually make the siren whiter or was it just a lighting thing

>>713393154
The character design was always just ok.

>>713393745
He learned about the vault on Pandora from the vault on Elpis. The crimson raiders were because he ninja looted the Destroyers vault after you kill it because Tannis is extremely insistent that you bring her the vault key. Angel is tricking you the whole time so Hyperion steals the eye of the destroyer and creates a weapon with it between borderlands 1 and pre-sequel. They need to make a game that covers those events and why the crimson raiders just let handsome Jack steal the first Vault because it’s never made sense

>>713380056
the problem with talking about bl1 is that its barely a borderlands game at this point.
its so divorced from what borderlands has been for the last 13 years that it feels like its a different franchise
like(forgive me but its the only comparison i have on hand) comparing the first 50 episodes of naruto with the last 50 episodes of naruto shippuden.

>>713381731
its shit but i prefer it to this.

Randy Bobandy won.

>>713393682
They lightened the siren’s skin too. It all looks very bad because she and the big guy are clearly designed to be brown characters, the black chick went from looking normal to looking like your typical mentally ill leftist, and the Indian guy’s helmet looks like something an NPC would wear, not a main character.

>>713381731
>>713382310
You won't believe this

>>713394274
3 is so boring

>>713394062
She’s 100% whiter. They did it for the big guy, it’s not farfetched to think they did it for her too.

>>713394274
3's cover should have been a psycho couple (since they introduced female psychos in it) holding hands in the shape of a finger gun pointed at themselves and their free hands also in finger guns pointing at each of their heads. So "three" guns pointed at themselves.

>>713362401 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_By97yHx_7U
Kino inbound

>>713394457
Stupid.

>>713383630
>They should bring back Eridian Weapons.
they should bring back the aesthetic from 2 and retcon the aesthetic from 3

>>713373908
Nope, they apparently stopped being a weapon manufacturer in lore after getting ejected from Pandora by Scav/Bandit/CoV/Ripper so don't expect a return any time soon.

>>713366343
>randy saying a mini map would drastically ruin performance
you’re not a real fan if you don’t believe that

>>713394536
2's guns look like shitty kitbashed Nerf guns.

>>713389332
>passable
No.
>OG mercs were made incompetent
>"hurr durr shooting people kills them :P" -Zed
>Helena's death was an off screen fart joke
>turned Scooter into a inbred virgin who wants to fuck his sister
>Moxxi was revealed to be the trailer park and the town's bicycle
>Tannis was retconned into being an aspie instead of just a greedy, mind broken, self-centered, bitch who would watch you burn alive if it meant she'd gain access to the vault
>and worse of all they got rid of Angel's fat tits.
Only characters that weren't shit on were Burch's original characters: Tina and Ellie. The former being Burch's sister's self-insert who can hold her own against bandits, speaks in wigger, and is loved by the Roland, Brick, and Lilith. Did I mention she's 12? The latter I'm pretty sure is just his fetish character that he forces us to interact with.

The story is even worse than the characters somehow. I will not get into everything otherwise I'd be here for literal hours instead I'll just list a few of the really retarded plotholes.
>Maya can't charge the vault key because ???
>instead of using our small militia force to save Roland we instead fuck around in the dust for 8+ hours
>we get bombs so Brick's buzzards can airstrike a bridge down so we can cross instead of just using said buzzards to fly across
>have to jump through hoops to get Angel. Roland just climbs the side of mountain with no issue and Lilith just fucking teleports in.
>retcon makes it so Atlus eas what pushed Dahl out of Pandora, but if that was the case then Tannis wouldn't have sent a signal to everybody in the galaxy to help her and would have just went to Atlus and got sponsored like she said she wanted to do in her echo log
>Angel betrays us and nearly gets everyone killed, but after five seconds we forgive her and follow her orders again because ???

This is far from passable. This is aggressively shit. Fuck you.

I dunno why they don't just do character creation again

A game with 3 (THREE) white characters?!? In 2020+5??!?!? Day 1 buy.

>>713394417
i played 3 3 times on my own and twice with friends
after my first character i turned off all dialogue and subtitles and skipped as much story as i could
unfortunately there are so many scenes where the characters are talking slow as fuck in game and you cant skip you just have to stand around waiting for them to finish.
i really hope they let us skip story/talking moments in 4.
>>713394605
im not talking about the guns, sorry i should have been more clear, i was talking about the eridian aesthetic as a whole.
it was much more alien in 2 and then became much more human in 3.

>>713362401 (OP)
>AVA: I have to go now. My planet needs me.

>>713394704
Because it made the characters even more bland than having a set of unique ones

>>713394741
>white

>>713394741
Holy shit they made the poos arms white KEK

>>713373938
Drop Wonderlands below 1 and bump 2 to 3=2 and you're good.

Vex still has pinoy face to me, even if they made her lighter

>>713394759
>unfortunately there are so many scenes where the characters are talking slow as fuck in game and you cant skip you just have to stand around waiting for them to finish.
Welcome to Borderlands.

>>713394704
Would you rather hire four voice actors for your full length, mainline video game or eight?

>>713394903
uh
retard
shes clearly a spicy big booty latina

I thought there was only 4 sirens in the universe? angel, lilith, maya, ava

>>713394935
Hire a male and female. It's not like the writing is good anyways.

>>713395012
they retconned that into there can only be so many alive at once so when one dies a new one is born to replace them

>>713394741
It used to be cool to play as different ethnicities. Oldheads know what I'm talking about

>>713395012
six Sirens active at any given time

>>713395012
Six at any given time. Retcon allows sirens to transfer there powers.

>>713395187
Truth Nuke

>loved 1
>loved 2
>had fun with pre sequel
>had fun with telltale
>played 3 for 2 hours and gave up
nah nigga you ain't getting me

>>713366343
I kinda believe him in a way the minimap they are aiming for is counting for all elevations in 3D
Put that in an open world game and performance issues may arise

>>713395187
I don't know about cool as much as people didn't care. The reason was that skin color was just part of their design, not their character.

>>713394457
cool

>>713381636
What if she gets the Helena Pierce treatment and dies pitifully in an audio log to hype up the new big bad?

fuack bl2

So how long until this franchise does time travel?

>>713395187
My brothers and I used to fight over who to play cole train in gears of war horde, but now we fight over who gets to play baird

>>713395187
because there wasnt an agenda.
like blade wasnt made because of dei or affirmative action or anything like that
it was "wouldnt it be cool if we had a black american vampire hunter that was also a vampire"
and the answer was yes.
now its "we need to create a movie about non white people"

>>713395691
Probably this game. They've been in lockdown for thousand years by the timekeeper? something is off and his name is a dead giveaway.

>>713395780
Actually Blade was filling a quota same with most black characters in Marvel

You just didn't have political brainrot at the time

>>713395851
nah

is this franchise the most retconned in gaming history?

They should show the dlc vault hunters like right now

>>713396064
no

>>713362401 (OP)
>any Borderlands game
>GOTY
laughsinExpedition33.tif

>>713395851
naw
I watched them last year and they weren't woke
typical blacksploitation maybe
but still good
now seethe for me, fag ;)

>>713396149
>Expedition33 fags try not to be cringe challenge (impossible he played the piano)

>>713396112
mmm no sorry sweetie its always been this way youre the one that changed please ignore youre lying eyes and the people who also noticed it

>>713396236
Acshualy was made as a comic long before the movie

>>713396064
Lil bro's never heard of World of Warcraft.

how did BL3 got greenlit?

>>713362401 (OP)
Is there even ROLEPLAYING in these games

You just shoot and collect loot right

Do the NPCs even call you by your character name? Does the player even get dialog?

>>713396398
"Now if you look at this graph we made BADASS amounts of money with BL2 and this means we can make SUPER DUPER BADASS amounts with a sequel."

>>713396445
has this series ever been advertised as an RPG?

>>713396398
>>713396525
and then they did indeed make "SUPER DUPER BADASS amounts" with a sequel

>>713395780
Blade is British.
He was American in the movies

>>713396615
jesus christ not a single good game in the image, holy shit I forgot civ was also from 2k

>>713396445
Heh hey there anon I couldn't help but notice your question whilst i was moseying past this thread, you know headin down to the femboy thread in /aco/ gonna watch me some jiggly bulges if you're pickin up what im putting down and if you are im in room 301, anyway see this game here is what we called a looter shooter "RPG" now youll notice those quotation marks around the "RPG" part because thats nerd shit that doesnt matter we just put in some bullshit +10% to pewpew and +20% to boomboom and all the autisms are happy and clap in their little youtube build videos when they find out that +300% to guns is gooder than +250% to guns namean? anyway what you wanna focus on is "shooter looter" or as we in the biz(thats business) call, Schlooter. so the only role you need to concern yourself with is BADASS intergalactic janitor and clean up all that PHAT LOOT when you pop them meanies in their beanies and the KERSPLOWCHYOW with shiney shit all over the ground, kinda like me after taco night except thats all the same quality and none of its legendary

>>713396653
Idris Elba should play Blade

>>713370792
My schizo take was the chained psycho on the box art starting to point at (You) the player was to psychologically condition us to be ready for Borderlands 5 for when he reaches through the screen and snatches you off into the game to reveal you’ve been remotely mind-scanned and uploaded into the SHIFT network.

>>713396715
they pissed civ fans off with 7 though. It's why you dont see any numbers about Civ 7 despite this coming out from 2k in may after civ 7 already released
https://ir.take2games.com/static-files/e8841ad4-15c4-4572-b4c4-0df5548df6ba

>>713393871
why does he always look so slimy and disgusting?

>>713396615
surprised borderlands has outsold Civ and its not even close

>>713385773
i dont hate ava because shes 14.

>>713395780
>like blade wasnt made because of dei or affirmative action
The ignorance on display is astounding.

>>713396653
I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT COMICS
fuck i hate comic fags
>mmm well ackshually! in the comics the shade of superman's underpants were 5.28% redder so this movie is bad.
so annoying.
worse than bookfags i swear.

>>713396907
shootin over strategy pretty much
it is an FPS after all and fills a niche long abandoned by the videogame industry.

4 person couch co-op.
Even if people arent on the same couch anymore

>>713395187
COOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEE TRAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN BABY! WOOH!

>>713397009
at the time of release the audience did not go in knowing there was an agenda
but now everyone knows there is an agenda.
thats a massive difference.

>>713396751
Mitebgud but Wesley Snipes really elevated that character to a level no one can really reach
>>713397010
>Say stupid wrong shit about a character
>Get corrected
>seethe about it
Don't act like you wouldn't correct someone saying stupid wrong shit about something you like either, faggot.

>>713397157
Surely there will be another Blade movie before he dies.

>>713397223
Why would you want a 60 year old man to star in an action movie?

>>713397223
I'd like that but we both know Disney Marvel would not give it the justice it deserves and instead of Wesley Snipes passing the torch to Idris we'd get a vitiligo strong independent POC woman who just mocks him until he dies to save her.

Borderlands 2 has the weird distinction of being where all the gay woke unfunny shit in the series began and also being the only good entry in the entire series.

>>713397223
disney will wait until snipes die to use AI of him for another movie

>>713396064
metal gear easily

>>713397437
what young black actor does hollywood even have who could play blade?

Do you retards not know they literally just gave up making a Blade movie with Merashala Ali or however you spell it, because disney just couldnt NOT make it about making his fucking daughter a badass unstoppable girlboss that became the REAL blade who dont need no dad?

>>713378064
>>713383468
>>713393369
you dont even need a mod

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands/comments/kljusj/psa_how_to_skip_most_if_not_all_base_game_dialogue/

it also works for wonderlands. i assume it will work for borderlands 4.

when the game detects there is no dialog to play it will also expedite the script forwards, meaning the doors open instantly, and the next quest step begins instantly etc. i installed it mid tiny tina's wonderlands playthrough and it was instant bliss.

BL4 is going to be the best Looter Shooter ever

>>713396064
I imagine it's some random live service game where introducing a new bigger badder villian who was behind everthing all along is the norm.

>>713396751
Fuck no, Blade character is Wesley Snipes alone, whatever reboot they do with a new guy is going to look retarded.

>>713398006
>>713398006
Oh shit I might play wonderlands for real this time

>>713398015
It's funny because Destiny was rewritten in a hurry about six months before release.
>>713398006
Oh cool, will have to try that.

>>713398006
>retards are STILL sharing this garbage
Fuck off and use a mod that does it without fucking up the rest of the game.

>>713372634
Because astroturfing. There's no way /v/ has such shit tastes; it has to be Randy samefagging this entire thread.

>>713398386
I wouldn't do that retard

>>713398386
Okay Randy

>>713397157
>wrong
it would be wrong if i was talking about the comic
i wasnt CLEARLY
so im not wrong.
fucking retard.

what did Randy mean by this?

>>713398801

>>713398879
Whoa, Randy's going a bit far there isn't he?

>>713365279
Apparently ue5 is a huge performance hog for 3d minimal like what 3 had and the game chugs enough already

>>713399101
UE5 is such a fucking meme holy shit

>>713399101
>minimal
minimaps

>>713362401 (OP)
>>713362724
Is that not Ava in the front?

>>713373938
2 > 1 > 3 > dog shit > presequel

>>713399101
look fucker
you either get a minimap
or denuvo+symbiote

>>713399293
Randy said its like +30% CPU usage or some shit. It's a problem with ue5

>>713399339
>>713399101
kek no way, they just using some "how to build a minimap ue5" tutorial on youtube i bet

>>713399425
sar it no cannot be done no doing it
engine troubles
not doable

>>713399425
https://x.com/DuvalMagic/status/1935804977987174416
I'm afraid a minimap is impossible

>>713399791
>year of our Lord 2025
>minimaps are not technically viable anymore guise, sorry
This was supposed to be the golden age of vidya

>>713399890
Who told you that lmao

>>713399938
My younger self when playing games and imagining how great they would be 20 years later, he lied to me

>>713372634
You're right story doesn't matter since. Unfortunately, none of the Borderland's stories are skipable so we have to hear that shit for hours. Fuck man, taking all characters in BL2 to endgame content and opening up all relevant farms would require hearing the same dogshit story 18+ times. Imagine having to hear about OC donut steel bitch speak in ebonics over and over again. Practically torture.

>game stops gameplay every 5-10 minutes
>flashes lights and screams in your ear at max volume
>turns monitor off for 40 seconds
>comes back on and you can play again
"lol why do you care noone plays the game for the flashing lights"

fuck you hali and your weak ass dogshit legs

is the robot loli from 2 still in?
i hope they didn't turn her into a ugly hag

>>713400702
she's fat and ugly now

>>713398007
This

>>713393632
He was the only good actor in the movie.
Well, kinda hard to tell when he was also the only decent character.

Am I the only one who thinks the 1st game is still the best?

>>713396313
irrelevant
it was not woke and it was just rule of cool

>>713401887
yeah
most are divided between 2 and 3

>>713401887
Yes, the gunplay is just poor in comparison to the newer games. That's about the only thing that has been improving in every games.

>>713401887
I still think the 1st game is the best. It's the only one where looting actually feels good. The fact enemies still don't drop the gun they're holding all these later is still bullshit.

>launchers and shit are now their own inventory slot
>you become a slow retarded asshat while using them

reminder that the lead dev of this franchise is a pedophile who assaults his employees and steals money

>>713398386
Randy did this. There’s no way people actually play this

>>713372634
Who fucking knows?

The story sucks, the gameplay sucks, the writing sucks, the "jokes" suck. Why the fuck to people play this shit?

>>713402138
the throwing knife is pretty cool tho

>>713402241
no

>>713383059
If she doesnt scream TRAAAAAAAUNT during an Action Skill then we riot.

will they make an actual good ng+ like bl2 or will they just say fuck it and make the ass cancer that was chaos/mayhem levels

>>713402586
>actual good ng+ like bl2
lol

>>713401887
I prefer pre-sequel. Low gravity and no slag, shame about the story and dialogue. But that's the series as a whole.

>>713402586
The only good ng+ in the entire series is 3's simply because it isn't mandatory for endgame content.

>>713403154
It's been a while but don't you have to replay through the game to unlock True Vault Hunter mode?

ng+ wouldn't be a problem if you could just disable story related content through the second run through
>>713403371
TVHM in 3 serves absolutely no purpose due to mayhem mode

>>713403371
Beating the game once unlocks TVHM. Not that it matters since mayhem mode automatically gives the normal mode TVHM modifiers.

>>713401887
nope
total garbage
basically unplayable by modern standards.
it falls into the same basket as fallout 3.

>>713402173

>>713402980
Just beat the kaumpf jet on clappy without doing any side quests. He’s pretty tough when he’s 4 levels higher and euridians are playing frisbee golf at you
>LIGHTS OUT
OORAH!

>>713362724
I actually liked tannis and her quirky lines, everyone else can fuck off and stay dead. hopefully tiny tina is gone too

Just give me better gameplay. The story is dogshit.

If you happen to like a character, expect them to either be dead or vanish for no reason, or be unplayable in the future.

>>713391208
>Buying Borderlands
/ourguy/ Tim has our backs.

>>713402173
Umm... based?

>>713401887
Nope, 1 is objectively best in series

>>713365279
Minimap is hard work, saar.

>>713385185
>Darkness and silence through the night

>>713399791
So there's two ways of making a minimap: You put a camera on top of the map and render what's below in real time; this is the easiest approach, and you can save performance by attaching a postprocess effect to the camera to disable as much shit as possible without compromising the visuals of the minimap. The second way takes more effort, you grab the position of all the gameplay elements that matter in the minimap and project it on top of a background atlas image that loads in parts depending on what area you're in. This takes more effort as you need to map world position to 2D position (too hard for a saar).

>>713391208
day1
buying the fake collectors too
fuck u

>>713362401 (OP)
do people actually officially give a fuck about the lore of this retarded series

>Handsome Jack returns and blows Ava's brains out
>looks directly into the camera and says "holy hell that last game really was SHIT"
>somehow Maya returns

I'll kneel before the alter of Randy

>>713405809
Surprisingly, yes.

>>713399101
make a very simplified model of the map instead of loading it in twice.

>>713388318
>Beautiful Frank
I see what they did there

>>713405815
haha yeah right. lilith didnt even really die in 3 she just went to another dimension or something.

>>713405894
just let me dream anon...

>>713401887
the only reason I think 3 is better then 2 is because 2 forced you to use slag

>>713398386
I'm a busy guy anon I don't have time to make this many 4chn accounts just to epic style troll your thread...look just be sure to pick up a copy on Sept. 12!

>>713405809
I cared for lore in 1 since it was mildly interesting, but after 2 retconned everything I stopped caring.

I do still want to know the truth behind Tannis in 1 and it sucks but whatever.

>>713398386
You're just mad cuz BL4 looks BadAss, just like your mom
#ad

Wait do you guys unironically think that Randy posts here?

>>713406051
2 has like zero actual endgame content
>BUT MUH OP LEVELS
Case in point

>>713406393
yo randy

I wonder what retarded bullshit like anointed enemies they'll put in the game

>>713372634
Because Krieg deserved to be happy

>>713362401 (OP)
Deluxe says 2 new vault hunters. So who are they?

>>713406452
they're actually doing proper ARPG enemy modifiers this time around

>>713406452
im pretty sure they learned from bl3 because you couldn't find them in the dlcs
but we know they have the elite/affix system from diablo

>>713401908
>>713397125
>THINGS WERE BETTER BEFORE I WAS MADE AWARE THAT RACISM EXISTS
>I DO NOT WANT TO ADDRESS MY RACIST VIEWS I JUST WANT TO BE RACIST WHILE ALSO LOVING BLACK CHARACTERS FROM MY CHILDHOOD
>I WILL DIE WITH THIS COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

>>713406495
Still too early to tell, randy said that right now the focus is on the main game and they are not going to show anything dlc related.

>>713406452
modifiers in this game are going to be more like ARPGs, from the videos I saw so far they seem like a step up since its traditional stuff like an extra shield or gives more xp when killed

>>713406495
Tiny Tina and Randy Pitchford's self insert

>>713406726
It's funny because I was thinking a lot of old games that people loved if released today would be called woke or anti-white propaganda lul

>>713402117
I like how rare loot meant something in bl1 since everything was truly random(assuming youre not farming knox chests)

>>713406495
Moze and Athena

>>713384824
stop mixing up latinas with filipinas

>>713362401 (OP)
>A Mary Sue
>Dying

>>713406410
There's raid bosses, but they're dogshit. Like half of them are engineers but big and the other half is considered unfun trash even by diehard 2fags.

So is this new one looking good? I didn't want to watch the early access streams to avoid spoiling anything.

>>713376302
>>713393853
dahl still exists lore wise apparently they just don't sell guns to the planet the game takes place on. But their unassembled parts from guns on crashed ships end up on the planet so you can still get guns with dahl traits and a bit a dahl looks

>>713381374
wouldn't fl4k be the character closest to those 2 class wise? Zane is more of a an extremely mobile soldier

>>713362401 (OP)
There's no robot like Zero/FL4K?

>>713407661
zero wasn't a robot...

>>713407698
Regardless they both had 3 fingers and a thumb. Figured they'd keep that pattern

>>713406726
That is not what I said at all, schizo. Learn to read.
>>713406795
And they would be wrong since most of them (if not all) were not woke. Wokeness is not when there is black people.
This is wokeness:

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-woke-wokeness/

I know you are on the "it was always like this" propaganda stage (or maybe you really are this delusional), but most people can clearly see the agenda being pushed and how it is financed. I bet you also think the dialogue in DA: Veilguard is totally natural and great. Fucking retard.

>>713407380
>organic being
>organic being
>ROBOT
One is not like the others, anon.

>>713398801
Nogs in borderlands and nekkers in witcher

This entire thread is jeets marketing the game to you.

>>713394606
B..but but handsome jack adlib isn't it fuuunnyy and craaazzzy. Did ya know the voice actor made most of the joke himself

>>713382037
I unironically don't know how the fuck people like him, and no I don't care about him being a shitty dad, he's just unfunny as shit and annoying in 2. TPS made him bearable and even intersting to watch him fall

>>713407924
We aren't talking about looks though we're talking about gameplay archetypes. Plus zero has a bit of that robot theme going on with the mask anyways

>>713407280
>dahl still exists lore wise apparently they just don't sell guns to the planet the game takes place on.
this is the same as being given the bill for dinner and you say "i have money to pay for this, its just not here right now, its at my house, but i do have it"
like if its not here, usable right now then who gives a fuck if it exists somewhere else.

>>713408692
I'm just saying unlike S&S it can still show up in later installments

What was on the flash drive, Randy?

>>713408960
>in later installments
were people saying it was retconned out of existence?
no. they were saying its not in bl4.
and that they have been replaced by other in universe gun manufacturers