Thread 713380225

Graphics peaked in the late 90s. Everything added after this is pure bloat and only makes the visuals worse.

Wrong
They peaked in the 2000s

>bro ackshually graphics peaked 40 years ago when they looked like shit
Here's the average /v/tard who shits on your favorite games, simply because he can't run them. Stick to your "peak graphics" OP and shut the fuck up.

>>713380289
In the brown n bloom era? Fuck no.
>>713380327
>marvel reaction image
You aren't human, your opinion doesn't matter.

>>713380470
>bro you used THAT image so you know what that means ! I GOTCHU !!!
typical boomer with "graphics peaked 40 years ago" mentality response. Here's a multiverse image, so you can base your opinion on what i have to say now on it.

>>713380678
Actual media made for humans is unpalatable to cattle goyslaves like yourself.

>>713380882
ok buzzword boy

I think they peaked around 2008. Saints Row 2 looks so good on modern hardware, back when graphics were bright and clear before they ruined everything with fucking DAAARK SHADOWSSSS everywhere. it looks worse AND it tanks the fps

they peaked with RDR2 you dumb monkeys

>>713381338
Looks just as boring as it plays. Soulless in every sense of the word.

>>713381338
>saar de goodgraphix is the best ever saar this is defuture.
shut the fuck up you street-shitter.

>>713380225 (OP)
Peaked on 2007 actually

>>713381242
Are you gay or just retarded? This looks like dog shit

>see UT99
>hear run.umx in my head
>immediately reinstall
home

>>713380327
>>713380678
samefag moment

90s and early 2000s gaming will always be the peak of gaming because it was a time only white people had access to games

>>713381792
It's only 600 MB. Why even delete it.

>>713381792
I made this thread after installing it on a 2001 PC I've been working on. That OP screenshot is straight from a GeForce 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXFk5N2BYCs
This track doesn't get enough love.
>>713382004
>because it was a time only white people had access to games
For PC games absolutely. That and certain Asian races, as it should be.

>>713380470
Pretty sure he meant hearly 2000s
Just you probably meant late 90s

>>713380470
>In the brown n bloom era? Fuck no.
Remind me what colors are quake 1&2?

>>713382442
You see any Quake screenshots in this thread?

The world peaked in 90s

>>713382549
Why are complaining about the "brown n bloom" era and then posting screenshots that are 90% brown and gray?

>>713380225 (OP)
I peaked in the late 90s

>>713382549
That's irrelevant to you retarded "the 2000s were brown, the 90s are better" argument.
Don't embarrass yourself any further.

>>713382660
ESLs not being able to perceive colors would explain a lot.

hardware rendering was a mistake

We get it bro your childhood was peak and the best part of your life

>>713382763
Good job cherry picking an image with a couple of colored light in it, you retard. Notice how everything else is still brown and gray?

>>713382757
Starting in like 2005 every game was brown and bloom. It sucked.

>>713381338
Graphics are tied to gameplay
The graphics in your vid scream "slow controls" that feel like giving commands to a retard in a wheelchair running through liquid shit.

>>713383037
>brown people genuinely can't comprehend color
The scientific breakthrough the world isn't ready for.

>>713380327
>>713380678
giving internet to indians was a mistake

>>713383147
Cope.

>>713383395
Arrest

>>713383539
ahh willfully obtuse

Graphics peaked in 1995, they devolved once we went 3d and haven't recovered.

>>713383395
In that vid if you suddenly press back it's gonna take like a whole 2 seconds to be able to turn.
I mean you're on a horse but still.
There's no point to a game if the controls are too slow to allow immersion.
Bet you played it with a fucking thumbstick too lmao imagine playing FPS like you're piloting a helicopter

>>713380225 (OP)
It's more about how the tools for rendering and effects etc. have dulled down the art of the game like a kind of entropy.

>>713380470
>brown n bloom era
Retard detected.

Anyone have that black and white clip of that old dude talking about how when art tries to imitate reality it becomes a shit?

>>713382667
And that's ok.

This is a great thread. I still have my original unreal that I bought for $65 back when it launched. Currently finishing my first unreal engine video game probably out in August.

>>713380225 (OP)
nope. contrarian braindamaged retard. learn the difference between graphics and artstyle

>>713383796
thought this thread is about graphics
>2 whole seconds
wrong
>There's no point to a game if the controls are too slow to allow immersion.
double wrong
>Bet you played it with a fucking thumbstick too
oh baby a tripple

>>713384237
>the game
>proceeds to show zero gameplay
Sounds about right. Fuck movie game slop and the brown subhumans that like them.

>>713380225 (OP)
I've to agree too also.

>>713384447
Again, this was a graphics thread. Are you retarded or something?

>>713384503
If these graphics look good to you then you're not human. Realism normalfag tards ruined gaming with their abhorrent taste.

>>713384237
>>713384503
That's not the same guy.
But enough pointless arguing. The real question is: Can you make a game with RDR graphics but with actual good controls and movement like quake?

>>713384581
>Can you make a game with RDR graphics but with actual good controls and movement like quake?
no. the first thing you do in Quake is open up the console and reduce the graphics down until every surface is a solid color with no textures at all

Just finished Unreal 2: The Awakening
What a crock of shit

>>713380225 (OP)
I disagree OP. While we recently have been seeing diminishing returns in graphical fidelity, but modern games like Indiana Jones and the Great Circle are good examples of what modern hardware is capable of. DLAA is the best antialiasing I've ever seen, and frame gen will only improve over time. Ray tracing is proof that really what makes a game look good is how detailed the lighting is.

Tl;dr You're a sour grapes faggot 'cause you're poor

>>713384786
>modern games like Indiana Jones and the Great Circle are good examples of what modern hardware is capable of
Insanely boring and ugly visuals? I agree.

>>713384570
>>713384767
these are the retards calling others slurs, kek

>>713384983
What exactly is interesting and pretty about the image in the OP?

>>713385275
i never called anyone a slur

>>713383294
I will never stop lmaoing at brownies being called people of color when all they got is shades of poop

>>713380225 (OP)
deus ex anons, there is a NEW gmdx release (this month, yes it still gets mods).

https://www.moddb.com/mods/give-me-deus-ex-augmented-edition

>>713383147
>The graphics in your vid scream "slow controls" that feel like giving commands to a retard in a wheelchair running through liquid shit.
this unironically doesn't make sense on multiple levels, at least try to come up with good insults

>>713385356
The clarity afforded by having zero post processing effects, the purity of no hideous shaders. It's a very clear image.

>>713382549
unreal gold is so good. so much soul/atmosphere and the music hasnt aged a bit.

>>713384983
I didn't think they were boring or ugly.

>>713385567
here you go zoomie, a tiktok so you can understand

>>713385575
>clear image
>blurry textures

>>713385575
>It's a very clear image
i.e. my degrading boomer brain struggles to comprehend images with higher polygon counts and color shades

>>713385941
nobody moves like left in real life

>>713385946
Mipmapping and bilinear texture filtering are soul.

>>713385356
it's pure nostalgia for the vibe of UT99 and the way games looked and felt from about 1997 to 2004ish

>>713386102
>entire image is brown and gray except for the green sludge in the middle
PEAK VIDEO GAME GRAPHICS

>>713386027
Perfect answer.
You just don't understand.
The game is not real life. It's a virtual world. It can become "real" in two ways.
If you are homosexual you can immerse in the game by "caring" about characters talking and emotions and other faggot shit.
If you are a normal intelligent human you immerse by being able to DO STUFF in the game that you want to do. And how does one do stuff? By inputting commands. If I move a mouse or press a buttong, I expect the action in the game to follow. If my "movement" is complete, then in the game, it should be complete as well. If I do a full "movement" then look at the screen and it takes more than 100ms for it to complete I feel disconnected. It is obvious that I am not in the game or at the very least it feels like I'm playing with lag.
But you can't understand this because you have never played games with good controls. You grew up with a controller in your hand and think that's all that gameplay has to offer and that's why you care about graphics in the way you do.

>>713386027
no one can kick boulders in real life either

>>713382134
man, that level in kingpin, actually a lot of of them were fucking awful but the escort npc's made it so much worse

>>713386392
not reading that gay essay

>>713380882
>the darker we make it, the better the graphics
>peaked

>>713386259
trying too hard

>>713387112
but metadoom is epic

>>713387107
Games became overly brightened when LCDs took over. For very obvious reasons.

>>713387235
Everything getting made for HDR should be an interesting shift but we're still a bit ways away from it since having a display that supports it is a premium product.

retro = soul.

>>713386392
>I am very smart and you are not, here I will use homosexuality as an analogy
to say you have room temp IQ would be a generous overstatement

>>713389487
>t. homosexual who cares about muh storytelling and dialogue in a video game

>>713380225 (OP)
i love ut but i don't think it's the graphics' fault games are soulless nowadays, artstyle is a huge thing and every game is going for the same subset of boring visuals, we used to have cool looking cgi back then that didn't look anything like games of today, i imagine a remake of unreal 1 with a billion polygons but the exact same colors, designs and overall lighting would look really good, no color correction, extra geometry like cables or furniture, just the same but with more fidelity
and better gunfeel cause ut showed how much better they could get

>>713380225 (OP)
no, with source engine. we shouldn't have progressed further.
>realistic enough to please normalfags who can't into games with good artstyle
>has enough of a unique look of its own

>>713389910
Honestly I think PBR is what makes a lot of the visuals boring. It makes everything look the same because they're trying to go for realism with the materials. In comparison old games were stylized even when they were going for a "realistic" style.

I would be interested in seeing games that use modern advancements in real-time lighting but rely on older styles for the assets. I don't necessarily mean limiting the poly count but the way they made textures and shaders. I think it is very much a case of less is more.

>>713385532
I read through the description. That sounds like way too many arbitrary changes. I'll probably stick to Deus Exe for my next playthrough.

>>713384503
Where's the gameplay?

>>713393921
there are tons and tons of options, you can do it vanilla or with the gmdx stuff, there is a lot of customization so it's nice for a second playthrough.

>>713395160
Can I just add the QoL stuff and cut out stuff like changing how hacking or augments work?

>>713380225 (OP)
wrong
its not just visuals which are made worse.

>>713395278
yeah, there is a shitload of stuff you can enable or disable. can make it vanilla or with all the additions, up to you

>>713389656
>cares about muh storytelling and dialogue in a video game
not him but claiming that's bad is ultra-retarded, you should stop embarrassing yourself

>>713395019
>muh gameplay
Play it, and find out. Oh that's right, you can't. Welp, better stick to peak 90s graphics games ig sheesh

>>713380225 (OP)
See >>713381585

Past the 360/PS3 era, we saw increasing amounts of diminishing returns in graphics rendering.

If you want to say that gaming peaked in the late 90s, that's a more defensible argument, but graphics? As much as I adore UT99, there's no way that's accurate.

>>713395486
Sounds cool for the just the QoL stuff then. Thanks.

>>713395582
No thanks

>>713384570
lol reddit opinion
a healthy variety of all styles is good.

Absolutely. Vidya have frankly only gotten shittier and shittier since those fucking towelheads crashed those planes. Chasing gurrafffx has accelerated the decay at a ridiculous pace.

>>713395693
>where's the gameplay?
>in the game, you should try it
>no thanks
No surprise. You "people"'s idea of gameplay are /v/ webms

>>713380225 (OP)
Oh man based ut99 poster. All these years later and we don't have anything that comes close. Brought a tear to my eye lad.

I don't wanna go back necessarily just wanna feel the feeling of looking forward to what the future would bring instead we got dogshit. Faggots killed ut4 for fortnite too and it was looking decent.

Real 3D, at least initially, caused a huge impoverishment in the artistic aspect. All games started to look more like technical achievements than artistic creations. Even today, you could argue that 3D graphics are still an obstacle to artistic quality.

just started the Thief series, and I'm loving it.
The visuals are certainly aged, but I think there's a lot of charm to them.
Just wish I had a CRT monitor to play it on

Every single day i am thankful that the opinions of /v/ don't matter and that this place has zero influence. Can't even imagine how shitty video games would be if it was the opposite. Luckily i can just read these posts with content knowing once it 404s it's like it didn't happen.

>>713396072
based

>>713396072
Don't you worry, the goyslop will continue for the foreseeable future.

>>713396072
>i molest children
Opinion discarded, reddit faggot.

I liked the graphics of Half-Life, looks good enough even today and lacks any of the bullshit filters and effects modern devs throw on games

>>713395996
Yeah. I prefer my wife and kids to any game that's ever been made, so I would never want to go back. But the truth is that I don't look at vidya and say
>wow I wonder what games next gen will be like
I see them and I go
>wow another pozzed snoozefest that looks and plays like all the other ones from the last 15 years

>>713396182
>I don't like goyslop because I most certainly am not a goy. Shalom.

>>713396385
You could just not play the goyslop.

>>713395957
OK but where is it?

>>713383395
Yeah but can he rocket jump?

>>713380225 (OP)
For many games you are objectively correct. That being said for more narrative focused games I believe the PS2 era is where graphics peaked for narratives.
>XenoSaga series
>Silent Hill
>Kingdom Hearts
All great and fun games where the tech level was 10000% perfect for their visuals and story narrative. Everything higher is pure excess, and MGS4 is one of my favorite games and it didn't need the PS3 for it.

>>713396471
But I'm a goy. I enjoy goyslop.

>>713383395
I really want these kind of realistic graphics and physics to do unrealistic gameplay and rocket jumping around

>>713380225 (OP)
the pursuit of ultra realism sacrificed a lot of appealing art styles that originally compensated for NOT looking fully realistic.

>>713380225 (OP)
TRY TURNING THE SAFETY OFF

hard to beat good pixel art, ie old adventure games by lucasarts:

>>713399142
>picks one of their most drab games

>>713380327
you're both cancerous baiters that the internet would be better off without.

>>713399714
still good, atlantis is a comfy game

>>713381585
Bioshock looked awful even in 2007, it used Unreal Engine 2.5 but looking like Unreal Engine 3 slop (ie everything is shiny)

>>713380225 (OP)
No. I need even more and better foliage graphics and reactivity. The last ten years I’ve seen some really amazing improvements, I hope someone goes even further.

>>713386102
I wasn't aware r_shadows still worked in Half-Life?

>r_shadows
>gl_overbright
>gl_texturemode gl_nearest

The holy trinity of SOUL

>>713400326
They can only be enabled in early versions, I think the first patch after the one included with the GOTY edition has them removed entirely.

>>713386392
TL:DR faggot thinks someone is going to read his faggy wall of text KEK

>>713380225 (OP)
>HOLY SHIT!
>LOSER!
>KILL'EM ALL!
>TRY TURNING THE SAFETY OFF
>TAKE IT!
>YOU SCREAM BETTER THAN YOU SHOOT!