Thread 713417691

Is it true that there are people who play this game just with their four favourite party members and rest a camp every time they use up their spell slots instead of cycling between all their party members?

Yes

>>713417691 (OP)
It's true. A lot of people don't realize that you can get extra quests and interactions if you bring certain companions to certain quest locations.

>>713417691 (OP)
Yes. I want to see all the funny interactions with my favorite party members, I don't want to see fucking Wyll steal some NPC interaction that could have been with Lae'zel

>>713417889
>I don't want to see fucking Wyll steal some NPC interaction that could have been with Lae'zel

It's true. If you keep the same party all game, then you don't miss any of their dialogue.

>>713417691 (OP)
Were you really using all the characters, OP? Seems kind of tedious having to switch them in and out.

>>713418010
I would understand if someone recruited them all just to do their quests. E.g.
>Have Karlach join your party
>Go to Dammon with an Infernal Iron
>Bench Karlach afterwards, so you can use someone else
That's fine, but I wouldn't switch them in for gameplay reasons.

>> 713417691
there's more than enough food in this game even with the increased long rest costs of honour mode that maximising spell slots like that isn't necessary.

>>713418010
Something I only noticed in my last run is that you can talk to your party after meeting Raphael. That means you can only get this specific dialogue with whoever you have in your party at that moment. This is why people don't switch characters unless they want to see a certain scene.

>>713417691 (OP)
Yeah. It doesn't help that swapping companions around is a total pain in the ass.
>drop whatever you are doing
>go to camp
>talk to companion A
>talk to companion B
>leave the camp
It all could've been solved with a party selector screen.

I play with friends full lobby exclusively and when i played solo once i killed all of them anyway and played trve solo on tactician, eventually i gave up as i hit a brick wall on act 2 and i wasn't willing to metafag, but, fuck the characters of this game they are all shit and boring

>>713417691 (OP)
Astarion, Shadowheart, and Lae'zel are the only ones worth a damn so why would I use anybody else.

>>713418720
You don't like Karlach? You're definitely not Reddit, because they like her.

>>713417691 (OP)
Only use other party members for their story quests.

Best party is Frog, Shadowife, Gale and Tav

>>713417691 (OP)
Playing the latest patch rn and haven't even thought about rotating people. Mainly because I hate most of them.

>>713417691 (OP)
wow I never thought about cycling members, that this possibility even exists, but nah I have a fixed party that aint changing.

No, the party members are all terrible and annoying. They're not hot, funny, cool, or even remotely fuckable with their big ass heads and weird skinny bodies and no fucking curves. Shadowheart is Kmart zoomie Viconia, frog is a fucking frog, astarion is a lame fucking fag who jumps between my kind of cool murder buddy to faggot vampire angst, gale is gay as fucking shit, and wills a NIGGER. A NIGGER IN FUCKING WESTERN FANTASY! oh and karlach is annoying.

In summary: fuck them they suck and I kill them asap.

>>713417691 (OP)
When there's literally zero punishment for resting, why wouldn't you? If resting cost more resources or did something undesirable like moved a questline forward, then it would make sense to rotate, but there isn't after the 1st act. (The only good part of the game)

>>713419641
You summed it up poorly but I still agree. I only really got on well with Minthara and that's because I never bonded enough with anybody to not want to take the selfish option. If she's going to stand there and applaud every time I kill or steal from a bunch of losers, then she can stay.

>>713417691 (OP)
What else are you supposed to do when you use up your spell slots?
One of the reasons this game didn’t work for me, having to run back to camp to recharge all the time, I’m a damn sorcerer

>>713419859
Can’t you miss quests by resting?

>>713420056
>One of the reasons this game didn’t work for me, having to run back to camp to recharge all the time, I’m a damn sorcerer

The game is balanced around having enough magic for the next fight and then having to rest after. If you feel like you don't have enough spells, you're meant to use scrolls.

>>713420239
The only quest that moved along after I rested was Thulla (the poisoned deep gnome). It's possible to rest too much and she dies. That's why I make sure I have an antidote before I talk to her.

>>713417691 (OP)
>instead of cycling between all
w8 there are people who play like that?

>>713420330
I’m saying there are quests you miss entirely if you rest a lot. Things in the world keep moving

>>713420330
And yet there are areas with multiple fights in them. Having to rest every every fight is bad design imo.

>>713417691 (OP)
> Is it true that there are people who play this game
No. This game is fucking trash

Woke garbage

Troon game

>>713420506
>Having to rest every every fight is bad design imo.

No, I actually agree with you. I prefer a cooldown system like in Rogue Trader. That's how you prevent martial classes from being better than spellcasters. If I fight a superboss in BG3, I actually run out of spells, and I have to use scrolls. People with weapons can just keep attacking.

>>713420650
>able to kill literal refugees and trannies
>woke
Kek, try again

Act 1 has a fair amount of events that require taking a Long Rest to trigger in camp. The dog and the owlbear can easily snarl up if you don't rest after triggering them, for example, and leaving the first region makes it so they'll never show up.
they're just fluff recruits of course and only matters if you want that one achievement for patting both theirs heads.

>>713417691 (OP)
perhaps I've been out of the rpg space for too long, but when people say the characters in this game are shit, who are they not measuring up to in comparison?

>>713420650
Why not kill them all if you feel like it?

>>713421108
>when people say the characters in this game are shit, who are they not measuring up to in comparison?

I have no idea. If someone says they hate all the characters (I think I saw a post like that), then they're probably just tranime poisoned. Anime/JRPG characters are extremely shallow, and they don't have any real flaws. The people who play those games are extremely flawed, but I doubt they can see themselves.

>>713421327
For example: Have I met any likeable people on 4chan? A long time ago, I did. So, for someone on this website to say they hate a character, it's like a stamp of approval. They have no right to judge anyone.
If someone on 4chan said the sky was blue, I would go check, and then filter the thread they're in, because they probably lied.

>>713421243
Then you'd have to kill 99% of all NPCs in the game. But what's the point of an RPG if you're forced to kill 99% of all characters?

All the characters are trash, their dialogues are trash, their quests are trash, and they're only good for slaughter. But why even play such a game? What's good about it compared to other RPGs where you don't need to wipe out everything just to make it bearable? Why waste time on a game with uninteresting NPCs, dialogues, quests, and plot when you could just... not?

>>713421108
I think the issue is that they all feel like they have main character syndrome. Your character is a boring blank slate with no customizable background at all and yet each of your companions has this deep backstory and personalized quests in the game. It feels like playing D&D with a bunch of tryhards who learned the game watching Critical Role

>>713421582
>Your character is a boring blank slate with no customizable background at all and yet each of your companions has this deep backstory and personalized quests in the game.

That's a legitimate criticism, but why didn't you just play as one of them?

>>713421619
For one, they’re not customizable. I like making my own character, isn’t that the point of a game like this?
I had all these ideas for a character but then you get to the character creator and you can’t customize your backstory at all or even make meaningful class decisions.
So my options are to play a blank slate or play with what is basically someone else’s character.

>>713421773
>my options are to play a blank slate or play with what is basically someone else’s character.

But... it's not someone else's and it's your character. Did you choose who you were born as? No, and so it's like saying that the body you inhabit isn't yours because you didn't choose it. If you choose to play as Gale, Shadowheart, Lae'zel, etc, then it's you, and it's not someone else. You decide every action they take.

Is it weird if I prefer dos2 over this game?

I just can't understand why i prefer a game with clearly lower budget

>>713421108
Pathfinder Kingmaker and WOTR
Rogue Trader.
Underrail
TAOD
If we consider the old one too then also:
BG1-2
Mask of Betrayal.
Planescape Torment

>>713421327
> If someone says they hate all the characters (I think I saw a post like that), then they're probably just
Played other CRPGS

Because Balls Hurt Gay 3 characters are literally anime snowflakes that are chosen by the gods and blah-blah-blah.
All of them are soooo fucking special that they break the Mary Sue bar and become a walking caricature.
>>713421582
Despite my hatred for Balls Hurt Gay 3... you're wrong because the canonical protagonist of the game is Durge, and he's decently written for a protagonist.

The problem is that all the other characters are also inexplicably made into protagonists, so each of them is a special snowflake watched by a god and so important that they'll decide the fate of worlds and civilizations. It's too grandiose for this trash, which turns the game into an anime.

>>713421573
>99% of the npc:s
Prove it. Give us a list with tranny characters vs non tranny characters. I'll wait for the list, any other response is a concession on your part.

>>713421857
Both are trash

>BG3 hater is still here
>posts the same images
>has the same talking points
Is this a bot or a genuine schizo?

>>713421856
I mean that’s fine and all for some games but like I said, when I got this I had ideas of my own for a character only to discover you basically can’t do anything to make your character as in depth as the companions.
Also to be honest, none of them really struck me as people I’d want to play as. I wanted to rise from humble origins to make my own destiny, not be special lady chosen by the gods or whatever
>>713421859
Is Durge really meant to be canonical? He felt to me like a niche challenge run

>>713421924
There's no bots on 4chan. Trust me, I would know if there were bots. The stupidity of 4chan is human. You can go talk to ChatGPT right now if you want to know what a bot sounds like.
Humans will waste their entire lives on the stupidest shit, but a bot won't.

>>713421904
It's not all about the troons, but also about just unlikeable woke characters - fags, refugees, terrorists,

>>713421904
I am not that anon but i remember two trannies, one is the transvestite necromancer in the bizarre circus and the other one is in the evil cult of Shar.

>>713421859
> WOTR
i didnt play Kingmaker but WotR has abysmal companions and underrail is a solo game not sure if that list is a joke or you are just retarded

>>713421924
He's the dude who complained that the game forced him to be gay, when in the alpha you had to make a character that you dream of at nights. Dude made some hairy ass dwarf lmao

>>713420865
>history has a "ticking time bomb"
>think you are actually going to be punished if you take too long so I almost never long rest
>also miss Karlach and Gale somehow

>>713421983
Concession accepted.

>>713421994
That's not 99% of the NPC:s

>>713421983
Terrorists run the country too. They "woke" to you too kid?

>>713421972
> Is Durge really meant to be canonical?
Yes. Firstly, the entire storyline revolves around him because he’s the one who started all the mess with the brain. Secondly, he fits organically into the story. Thirdly, look at how the game was in beta—there, you had dark urges toward violence without alternatives. Tav feels like an extra element.

>>713422003
Wait, i remember that thread. That was on /vrpg/ years ago while the game was still in early access, no way it's the same faggot.

>>713421924
Newfag. Its called a shitposter. He posts retard trash for attention in the form of interactions. Also known as trolling

Is this your first day on the internet?

>>713421978
I decided to ask ChatGPT if there are bots on 4chan, and he seems to think there is. However, seeing as I'm not a bot, I disagree with them. I only asked so you guys know what bots sound like.

>>713422084
>That was on /vrpg/ years ago while the game was still in early access, no way it's the same faggot.
Why not? You don't seem to understand that 4chan is a prison. People that can't use any other site without being banned are forced here.

>>713421859
>WOTR
Buildslop that's a glorified autobattler. You got some horrible taste.

>>713422058
Well.... yeah, Jewlensky is woke as fuck. He even orchestrated a fag parade.

>>713422128
I disagree with him*

>>713422061
If so, that’s fucking dumb. Your one option for a fleshed out protagonist is insane murderhobo. Who wrote this shit?

>>713422051
>That's not 99% of the NPC:s
As i said i am not that anon, i just wanted to list all the trannies in the game. I would also like to point out that both trannies are shitty people in the game. Same goes for the faggots in the game which is hilarious to me since trannies ad faggots try and claim that the game is faggot coded when to me it looks like a game made by people who hate faggots and wanted to portray them as annoying and bizzare.

>>713422084
It likely is. The mentality of making a troon in char creation and then complaining that your character is a troon, is quite prelevant

>>713421856
This is one of the big issues with the game, they wrote companions as protagonists. Playing a custom character almost feels like the wrong choice.

>>713422256
>This is one of the big issues with the game, they wrote companions as protagonists. Playing a custom character almost feels like the wrong choice.

I completely agree, and I prefer playing as a pre-made character anyway. I don't play Silent Hill 2 and think
>oh man I wish i could have made my own character
and instead, I enjoy playing as James. I don't think
>this is someone else
and I think
>this is me in Silent Hill

Do you not play these games where you're given a character?

>>713422207
Oh, there absolutely are trannies, gay, feminists and everything in between. It's just retarded to ignore your freedom to deal (or not to deal) with them as you please. When the game released, the emerald grove questline was called jewish refugee propaganda, ignoring the fact that you could fuck them over or even kill them outright.

>>713417691 (OP)
Why the fuck would I play it any other way?

>>713422162
>seething about slav slugfest out of nowhere
lmao, you russian or serbnigger?

>>713422343
It’s a rpg, dude. Telling your own story in the setting is half the fun. Why would you compare it to a game like Silent Hill? A well crafted player character fits a certain type of game, but in a game so deeply choice based like BG3 it’s not as fun when I’m playing as someone else.
I don’t get why you look as a highly customizable world and think “yeah I want to play an entirely pre rolled character that someone else made”

>>713422256
>This is one of the big issues with the game, they wrote companions as protagonists. Playing a custom character almost feels like the wrong choice.
There is no custom character. The only custom thing about Tav is the way you look and your starting build. There is no real ''custom'' character in games like BG1, BG2 or BG3. Custom characters exist only in pure sandbox games like NetHack.

>>713422464
>I don’t get why you look as a highly customizable world and think “yeah I want to play an entirely pre rolled character that someone else made”

The only thing they chose for me is the appearance. I can change their class if I don't like it, and I pick all their dialogue options. As I've said, and you completely failed to understand: It's no different to being born as someone you didn't choose.
Did you customise yourself before you were born?

>>713422476
There are plenty of RPGs with custom characters, what are you on about?
They based the game off a pen and paper rpg with a fully customizable characters yet that was the one aspect of the tabletop game they failed to bring over

>>713422206
> Your one option for a fleshed out protagonist is insane murderhobo.
Oh, if only. In reality, there’s just one mandatory killing, and everything else is pure choice. That’s why he’s the protagonist—he has the exact same choices as Tav, but with extra unique content on top. You can play peacefully without killing anyone. Only the bard dies at the start. And with an exploit, it doesn’t be the bard important to Act 2 (Alfira), but a random dummy NPC who replaces her out of nowhere. Otherwise, you don’t need to kill ANYONE at all, except those you’d have to kill as Tav anyway.
>>713422136
>>713422001
I've played both games and WOTR is objectively better than balls hurt gay 3 in EVERY aspect except animations and mo-cap
Writing, combat, build autism, story, dialogues, MUSIC FFS - WOTR is just better.

>>713421560
i totally agree with this sentiment
>>713421582
i do think that the contrast between the other characters who are very expressive at times, and the main character, who really does little more than occasionally emote, can be kind of immersion breaking at times, but i think being able to design a game system that allows for a customizable player character background that cohesively generates into meaningful storytelling is a huge design challenge, that I guess we'll have to wait for some future game to master

>>713422464
Then just make your own? I don't really see the issue.

>>713422206
BG was about the bhaalspawn. Durge being the canon one is the only one that makes sense.

>>713422531
Do you not play RPGs much?
It’s not just the background, you don’t get to choose your character’s personality much in dialogue beyond very basic things, you get no sense of who your character is.
Do you have no sense of creativity?

>>713422256
this is the issue i had with the game too, i heard durge is the intended way to play but i choose pure custom char because i spoiled myself game a bit and didnt like some of the edgy stuff you do as durge

>>713422569
Wotr is the most boring rpg I've ever played. No real choises, poorly implemented rules and build slop autobattle combat with no player agency.

>>713422576
Again, “your” character feels half baked. As >>713422570
pointed out, your character barely emotes. You feel like an observer in the party more than a fully dynamic member of it.

>>713422604
Thank you for avoiding my question while asking your own. I'm hiding your post now. Keep in mind
1. I don't have a second thread open.
2. The rest of the board is filtered.

>>713422548
>There are plenty of RPGs with custom characters, what are you on about?
You confuse custom with ''custom'' my guy. You are not a custom character in TES III, you are not a custom character in VTMB, you are not a custom character in Arcanum etc.. All those games have a preset character that you get to customize a bit. That is not a custom character since the story itself is not custom.

>>713422569
I felt so bad about killing the bard that it d the Durge experience for me

>>713419641
id like wyll better if he had a better hairstyle than cornrows

>>713422569
>cyrillic
Kek, I knew you were a vatnik.

>>713422256
>>713422620
This complaint feels like a massive reach, if they wrote more stuff specific to the custom char you'd be complaining because of lack of freedom.

>>713422697
Just knock her out before the night and you will kill the no-name lizard instead.

>>713422570
>i totally agree with this sentiment

I'm glad you agree, because I don't like a single person on this website. For them to say
>X character is bad
I just think "If only they could see themselves".
I speak of 4chan as if they're multiple people, but I can't actually tell them apart. That's what a personality abyss this site is, and they still judge others.

>>713422658
I didn’t avoid your question. Learn to read, retard.
>>713422681
You know what I mean, you can choose things about your character, their personality comes out in dialogue, there are reasons your character would do x over y. Tav is just kinda there.

do the pathfinder games feature coop

>>713422808
lol

>>713422748
Not really, because like everything else in the game you’d choose how much you wanted to interact with it.
It’s a reach to me to say “in this game based off a tabletop RPG where you get to make your own character with their own backstory, you were obviously meant to play as someone else’s character”.

>>713422712
Originally people thought that he was from India since he slipped and posted a screenshot of 4chan showing the time of his posts. And then he posted google analytics in Cyrillic so people are speculating that he is a Russian from that part of Russia which is in the same timezone as India.

I hated the entire cast in BG3. Like usually I'll find a couple companions I like in an RPG but everyone was so insufferable in BG3 I couldn't stand any of them. Perhaps the least likeable cast of any game I've played.

>>713421108
Other rpgs you stupid fucking zoomer? The original and better baldur gates? Planescape? Jrpgs? Fallouts? Tyranny? You're so fucking retarded.

>>713422901
No wonder he prefers vatnik slop to western slop then.

>>713422928
>I hated the entire cast in BG3. Like usually I'll find a couple companions I like in an RPG but everyone was so insufferable in BG3 I couldn't stand any of them.

That's really good, because now you know how I feel about the people of this website. I'm guessing you enjoy your time here.

>>713417691 (OP)
Everybody else in the group exists only to cast daily buffs on the A-Team. And somebody's going to Divine Intervention me a mace. I don't care if I'm never going to use it.

>>713422808
that game barely works in singleplayer, its full stitched up bloated systems in unity with loading screens for literally everything

>>713422996
You can just go back if you don't like it here.

>>713423056
I've been here longer than you and everyone else. I'm filtering this thread now. I didn't have a second thread open, and the vast majority of the board is auto filtered. The shitskin NPCs flooded this thread because I legitimately have everything filtered.
I will be going back - to the front page. Enjoy each other's company.

>>713422773
>Tav is just kinda there.
This is where you're wrong. Tav has all those unique race interactions that the origin characters don't have. Also Tav has his own backstory, it is just more vanilla adventure when compared to the super special snowflake Durge.

>>713422928
I stopped playing in Act 2 everyone is really quippy and it bugged me

>>713422972
>vatnik slop
Wotr is not different from a Californian pozzed garbage with nigger paladin and tranny you meet 3min into the game

>>713418720
Shadow Shart's shart until you respec her, and Rogue in general's kind of underwhelming, so Astarion is hardly necessary.

>>713423097
>I've been here longer than you
Unlikely considering I started coming here in 2004, very few people still active on this site came here before me.

>>713423097
You probably weren't even alive when this site opened you dipshit zoomer.

>>713422968
I was just asking for characters

She basically soloed game for me, super strong character

>>713423235
>Shadow Shart's shart until you respec her
You don't have to respec Shadowheart. Her stats are fine. You just have to hit lvl 4.
>Rogue in general's kind of underwhelming
Skill issue. Rogue is busted if you know how to use stealth. Act 1 becomes a cakewalk.

>>713418720
Gale has fireball though. I like to start off with him in my party then swap to Astarion later in the day.

>>713423560
Based minmaxer swapping a character the moment they have no more spellslots for the day!

>>713423483
Awkward stat spread.
Tr*ckster domain

Durge kinda feels more in line with CHARNAME, which makes sense for a Baldur's Gate game. Although CHARNAME wasn't *this* murderhobo.

>>713423680
>Awkward stat spread.
Only till you hit lvl 4.
>Tr*ckster domain
Great domain that is super underrated. Even better if you play Shadowheart as your origin and know how to use Disguise Self.

>>713423710
Durge is a faggot. Gw had crazy dreams based off your alignment. Durge was a ridiculous joke. A caricature.

>>713423861
Durge is not natural you dumbass. There is a reason why Durge is the way he is.

>>713423861
>A caricature
Every Bhaal minion is a caricature. Even fucking Sarevok, who WASN'T a caricature in BG1 and 2.

go, tav, and murderhobo to the extreme!

>>713417691 (OP)
In my first playthrough I turned shadowheart into a life cleric and had 2 fighters and a ranger with high AC so that we wouldnt have to rest as often. I had a pretty insane amount of camp supplies. I had a (wrong) feeling that I could unlock a 'good' ending if I didnt rest much and pushed ahead into many encounters relying on potions.

>>713417691 (OP)
Just use a mod that lets you bring all the party with at all times.
Yes it does break the combat difficulty
No I don't care
I want to see the dialogue and interactions. Combat in WRPGs is never a priority
Id skip all combat with dialogue choices if I could like Age of Decadence

>>713417691 (OP)
I don't like the nigger.

>>713423680
I want to believe Shar deliberately made her statsheet awful as a practical meta-joke. I guess tormenting Shart is something Shar likes doing.
That's why I always respec Shart into a DEX -based Life cleric once she converts to Selune.

>>713424041
in Throne of Bhaal you meet plenty of bhaalspawns and most of them are normal people, in bg1/2 you have dreams but normally dont do evil edgy stuff unless you choose to do them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK9QE1Qbhew

I just installed the party limit mod and brought everyone except Fagsin

>>713424220
Yeah, that's why I'm so disappointed with the portrayal of both Orin and Sarevok. Larian fell hard for the "god of murderhobos" meme.

>>713424321
sarevok just seemed off because he was just a withered husk of himself, orin was just reddit incarnate

>>713417691 (OP)
Why wouldn't you do that? The game never requires you to put any thought into your party composition. Just spec every character as a fighter.

The game fucking sucks compared to bg1 and 2+tob

Also fuck playing as cringe characters just leave em in camp or kill them I don't care about faggy dialogue. It's more Kino to keep the same party

>>713424394
To be fair, both Sarevok and Viconia are so off in their portrayals that if they were named differently, nobody would've noticed. But I guess you needed them for unnecessary memberberries.
But seriously, Viconia is so out of character it hurts.

>>713424321
in theory you could explain they got the their position BECAUSE they are like that while weaker/normal bhaalspawns are just regular people but i still dont get why they had to force this murder crap on tav.

>>713420650
>woke = black people
literally just a racist

>>713424545
Well, after ToB, no Bhaalspawn should've existed to begin with. I get Durge, he's a special case, but Sarevok STILL being a Bhaalspawn is retarded. Because he already lost his Bhaalspawn essence TWICE.

>>713417691 (OP)
Nah I just use a mod that refreshes all my spells after every fight so I don't even have to waste time with long-resting.

>>713424224
I did this but the mod didn't make all the possible reactions/interjections trigger at once as I had hoped. It was like I still only had 4 party members, like the game has a cap on how many interactions it allows per conversation. I'd do a conversation, load save, shuffle the party a bit, and I'd get a different set of reactions. Really annoying.

Its a pet peeve of mine in RPGs like this, where they had an arbitrary limit on party members but then they give you more companions than you have slots and on top of that they make it so only active party members can react in dialogue, so if you want to see everyone's reaction you have to save/load a dozen different times to cycle through everyone and all their possible permutations.

The companion bench is retarded and I can't stand the idea that the fate of the world hangs in the balance yet I can only bring 2~3 people with me to assault the dark lord's doom tower. Every companion has a personal vendetta against the dark lord so each one has a reason to be there but I can still only bring 2 or 3.

How about they just match the number of companions to the number of party slots so I don't have to bench people?

>>713418720
Can confirm playing a wizard this was the best party that I stuck with. I respec shadowheart to pure healing, astarion is great melee dps, and lazael as tank. Meanwhile I can cover all utilities and occasional mass dmg aoe with my spells. Why would I ever change this synergy?

>>713417691 (OP)
>every time they use up their spell slots instead of cycling between all their party members?
Yes? This is objectively the correct way to play. You need to rest an insane amount of times to see all of the cutscenes with your companions.
Most people don't know this, but you need to rest like 5 times when you first land on the beach with Shadowheart to see all of her scenes BEFORE you move on.

Is Paladin of Ancients worth it?
I need a concept for my drow PC.

>>713420451
>I’m saying there are quests you miss entirely if you rest a lot.
There's like two of them in the entire game...

Imagine using any of the shitty premade companions instead of your own creations. Icewind Dale will always be superior to pornbrains gate, and most gamers are pathetic idiots without an ounce of creativity.

>>713426678
you can make premades, something you would know if you played the game faggot

>>713417691 (OP)
>Fave party members
Can't you just solo everything?

>>713420650
These guys all look like perverts.

>>713418951
let's cook with fire, baby

>>713426710
The porn must have rotted away your reading comprehension. What a travesty, a loss for the world.

>>713426834
>porn
and look who has brain rot here you deranged faggot, btw
IWD is a dogshit dungeon crawler nobody gives a flying fuck about, you should slit your wrists

>>713426957
Uh huh. Tell it to reddit, child molester.

>>713427105
not beating the allegations of severe mental illness

>>713423162
Kek, hit a nerve I see.

>>713420605
>concentration
Such an anti fun mechanic. I get needing it for maintaining an aoe for 10 turns but why the fuck does warlock need concentration for a dinky 1d4 weapon buff? That's so stupid.

>>713423606
I'm not even a min maxer I just feel that instead of anxiously hoarding spells I'm better off actively using them and then benefitting from playing a different way when they run out.

>>713426231
>Is Paladin of Ancients worth it?
Every class is worth it depending on how you play them and on what you expect them to be able to do.

>>713420696
>troon game is when the voice actor gender doesn't match the fictional character
Boy you better not look up the voice actors for literally anything else.
That beard on the dwarf woman I'll grant you, that's just too small.

>>713417691 (OP)
There's not even 4 good side characters, but unlike divinity there's no lone wolf perk so you have to keep them around unless you want a much harder playthrough. Shadowheart has a pretty good story line and Wyll is boring but inoffensive but the rest are varying levels of annoying. I sincerely regret not picking dark urge during my playthrough because the writing sucked and I would have had more fun watching my character fuck people over than trying to take all the melodrama seriously.

>>713417843
>don't realize
The game spells it out for you.
I got asked for one or the other not present party member on more than one occasion.
Didn't give a fuck.
There's so much shit to do even with ''static'' party and you get level capped at the beginning of act 3 anyway if you did all side quests till then.

Is Durge any fun? I am on the fence about the game forcing me to play a murderhobo. How avoidable are his "ourbursts"?

>>713417691 (OP)
I ended the game with roughly 4000 supplies. I could have long rested after every fight and been fine.

>>713420650
I killed the drag queen as soon as I found him and even got a decent staff out of it, I think the devs knew people would want to kill him
>>713420696
>valeria was supposed to be a woman
lmao the troons voice was so obviously male I didn't even consider why the elephant had a girls name.

>>713421983
Gales entire character is reddit as fuck. Won't shut up about his heckin cat, and is otherwise a blank slate of emotion only interested in magic.

>>713431975
Some are unavoidable, some need skill checks, some are as simple as not selecting the “Kill this guy” dialogue.

I've 100% the game and I only play solo, it's the only way I can get through a playthrough. I can't stand the writers. Even when there's a character I don't hate the writers find a way to ruin them once you learn more. I just play for the combat and overall narrative. The only character that I have no issues with is Orin, she's perfect

>>713431975
Durge is just a better default character. The game doesn't commit to anything, if you dont want consequences for your actions the game lets you off. In the case of Durge there's only one moment in act 1 where you have no control and kill an npc. You can avoid that if you know how, but you have to be spoiled and know ahead of time to be able to stop it. It's a shame if you kill her because she gives you a very strong piece of gear in act 2 but ultimately doesn't matter outside of that.

>>713417691 (OP)
Yes. It is the objectively correct way to play. I mean honestly, who fucking uses Wyll or Halsin.

>>713431975
The only time a save is required is to avoid killing your best friend/LI at the end of Act 2.

>>713429739
Women can voice little boys convincingly because they haven't hit puberty and had their voice deepen yet. Grown men cannot convincingly voice women because they can't pitch their voices up without it sounding like a shitty falsetto.
>goku grandma
she was fine for when the show started, modern goku 100% sounds like a grandma and it sucks ass. Only nostalgia rotted south americans like her voice

>>713432191
>>valeria was supposed to be a woman
...what? In what universe?

>>713432543
>>713420696
read nigga read

>>713432543
Everyone refers to it as “she” which genuinely sounds like a joke considering it looks, sounds, and acts male. They made an inadvertent troon noke.

>>713417843
>extra quests
Wrong.

>>713418951
Bro he's fellating Astarion, you don't get more fucking reddit than that.

>>713424545
Durge is literally made of the flesh of the god of murder. He’s the only spawn for whom the urge comes naturally and constantly.

>>713420780
There is no fight in BG3 past the very, very early game that isn't over after two turns, you aren't running out of spell slots you lying nigger.

>>713432613
WotC demanded representation. Everyone knows this. You can clearly see that some characters were changed just for the sake of change. Troons and WotC constantly harassed Larian, especially the troons have beeing going after Larian ever since they got triggered by DOS's cover art. Zoomers don't remember it but i do. If all fagots, troons and other similar schizo activists get nuked into orbit gaming would improve overnight. I am still happy that Larian were able to make a good game even with having to include WotC trash.

>>713432657
>Wrong.
No, you're wrong.

>>713432191
>lmao the troons voice was so obviously male I didn't even consider why the elephant had a girls name.
unironically pushed me over into killing HER when I met HER chained up in the bhaal temple. not as a sacrifice, just because I could. stupid fucking flying elephant. what an incongruous character.

>>713432857
They stashed the troons away but I think literally ever gnome in the entire game is gay, and roughly half of the relationships besides.

>>713417691 (OP)
Yeah. For me it was. Mostly because they were the characters with the most contents
>Lae'zel
>Astarion
>Shadowheart
>Sometimes Gale because wizard
The rest were extremely underworked
Karlach
>LE reddit deadpool humour
>You can finish 90% of her storyline in act 1
>10% is killing Gortash at the end and presenting his body to her
>You have to either turn her into a squid or give up on everything/ the entire story to mindlessly fight demons in hell (something she was excaping from) to not get the "normal" ending where she straight up explodes in front of you
Gale
>WOAH MUH MAGIC GODDESS WIFE AND CAT
>But I also want to fuck you bro
>LET ME EXPLODE MYSELF FOR MY SENPAI
WYLL
>MUH DADDDDDDDDD
>UGH WHY DON'T PEOPLE RESPECT ME I ONLY SOLD MY SOUL TO HAVE SEX WITH A HOT DEMON WHORE
>NOOOOOOOOOO WHY DID YOU KEK ME
>I'M GOING TO BE LE PRESIDENT
Jaheira and minsc
>Just cameos
>Jaheira has to be babysat in order night to permanently die at the final act 2 fights
>If she dies minsc will not be a recruitable companion
>Minsc will straight up die regardless if you use non-lethal on him if jaheira is dead
Halsin is just not there. He's a meme polyamory pick. All he does is moan about the oakfather, cursed children and orgies. His story is resolved mid- act 2 and all he does in act 3 is get kidnapped
Astarion's act 3 was disappointing too with all the moaning he did when his final dungeon was just a couple of rooms and a shitty boss fight that is easier if you don't take Astarion with you (Astarion will still spawn into the final cutscene to resolve things so you don't miss anything)
Lae'zel and shadowheart for some reason take the entire cake
You can tell most of the effort was put into act 1

all the companions are insufferable. less terrible then wotr but i still can´t myself play it. i had fun with a crpg once, but everything since then has been a massive dissapointment.

>>713432857
>WotC demanded representation.
some places feel like, like they designed the location and wrote all the characters, and then afterwards they literally wrote an algorithm to randomize the races of all the people there. the druid grove in particular stands out like a sore thumb. they have almost as many different races there as they have individual druids.

>>713421108
>who are they not measuring up to in comparison
To their headmates. There is no actual game with magically better companions. People bitched about the original BG companions, they bitched about the Kotor companions, they bitched about DAO's companions. I especially remember fondly how hard people complained about Aerie and her wings.

>>713421582
So play Dark Urge. The game literally revovles entirely around you then.

>>713422569
BG3 has better music than WotR it's not even close, sorry.
Now Rogue Trader, that is actual competition.

>>713431975
Speaking of Durge what is a good class to do a solo run with? If I'm playing him I'd go full blown murderhobo, kill other companions on sight.

are they actually done patching the game for real? wouldn't mind doing a second run with mods but not if the versions are still changing and half the mods are broken n stuff

>>713431975
why avoid them? embrace the killing it's fun

>>713433296
Frost mage, gloom stalker ranger, open hand monk (thief rogue 3), hexblade warlock with paladin levels, paladin in general, swords bard.

>>713433110
I compare all these companion-focused games to the PS:T companions. If you're making an unapologetic hack-n-slash, like BG1 (I guess BG2 had more of a character focus), then you don't need deep characters, you just need tons of them, which *both* BG games had, incidentally. But when you only have, like, 7 companions or something, those companions better not suck ass.

And yeah, people are definitely right to complain about the companions in all these faggy WRPGs, because they're all written by the same types of faggy people. The PS:T companions are clearly written for a target audience of teens, and they still manage to have depth to them, and to express themselves as if they're not all from California. Which is clearly what is the problem. CDPR's writing, pre-Cyberpunk, was a big breath of fresh air, not because the characters in it were so great, but because they weren't all just californians. But now they've been invested by the same brainrot as everyone else in the western gaming industry.

>>713432591
>read
I refuse.

>>713433296
Durge gets a unique cloak that makes him turn invisible upon landing killing blows. Makes him a great solo murderhobo character.

>>713432920
There are no extra quests for bringing different companions. I have played through the game multiple times with different parties, no extra quests. So you are wrong, end of discussion.

>cycling between all their party members
the game already has an extremely annoying inventory system. i'd rather kill myself than do that

>>713433441
>hexblade warlock
Already doing that for my normal right now, so I might just go paladin. I'm guessing you just grab enough for the heavy armor? Also is Bear Aspect barbarian any good for solos?

>>713433075
>and then afterwards they literally wrote an algorithm to randomize the races of all the people there.
But that's what WotC does, even in their own modules. Sometimes even behind the back of the writers of said module.
I think even Perkins had a wtf moment during one tabletop session when he found out the NPC he wrote for a module is a troon now.

>>713433807
It's so blatant too. Like when they released a book for lost mines of phandelver and for some reason there was a focus on gender and sexuality
Whose playes gives a fuck if the orc barkeep is non binary and gets their back blown out by random men on the weekends? I really need to know what kind of people actually seek that kind of fluff in their games

>>713433778
You grab that because getting Charisma as the only damage+casting+interaction stat you need is crazy. Paladin is good for auras and divine smite, to turn hexblade even nastier. How much of each is up to you, but generally Hexblade is good as a 1 level dip, a 6 level split, or going all the way.

>>713423235
do people seriously leave each character as their default class?

is that Morgana Evelyn a woman or tranny using voice changer? Most most popular BG3 youtuber seems to be a women but something seems off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a_2rKaTpGg

>>713433778
Barbarianis good for solos if you play throwbarian but falls off otherwise. Generally you aim to have damage ofer survivability, because the action economy is out of your favor and you are always one hold person away from instant death. Generally solo barb is going to be berserker (extra throwing) or giant (harder throwing, ice surfaces). I also think Eldrich Knight has turned into an S+ tier class now that booming blade always gives you four attacks a fucking turn. Seven if action surged.

>>713417691 (OP)
I'm currently just using hirelings and rejected every companion from joining

>>713435362
Why is nu-/v/ infested with faggots that keep sharing e-celebs? Back in the day we would have 20 people calling this anon to kill himself and keep his e-celeb shit to himself.

>>713433521
That's the Cloak of Cursed Apathy, right? It's actually insane for solo Durge runs, especially if you pair it with Gloomstalker or Rogue for the burst. Get surprise, invis off each kill, reset and start again. Combine with some invis pots or Misty Step and you're basically the fantasy Predator.

>>713437614
You are reading and posting on a board which consists in 90% of gossips, pedo cartoons, porn, troll shitposts, offtopic rage bait and think you superior. Put a bullet in your head you low iq retard.

>>713438156
>e-celeb posting troon got triggered
>>713435634
Barbarians are good if you go for two weapons bear/bear/stallion.

>>713438656
>i was only pretending to be retarded
like i said you are very low iq

Your botposting is still obvious chang